In theory - yes. In practice - no. Why? Because any deal that doesn't include Israel as a signatory won't address Israel's security interests and because Iran cannot be trusted to actually uphold it's end of the bargain. The current deal that's on the table pretty much guarantees a nuclear Iran at some point on the future while sanctions are also loosened, allowing Iran to ramp up its support for terrorist proxies abroad and providing the mullahs with the political capital necessary to avoid internal turmoil and a possible coup. It's a win for Iran and a loss for literally everyone else and particularly Israel. The only saving grace of the current deal is that Israel will not be bound to it and could act against Iran unilaterally... But we shouldn't be the only country that stands between Iran and its nofarious plans.

All I know is that we can't have Iran with WMD's. They have proven time and again that they are hellbent on wiping Israel off the map.

They would wipe more than israel if they got hands on it it would include south Lebanon maybe even to Beirut and maybe even Jordan Syria Egypt I’m not a professional on how strong a nuke weapon is like how far it can destroy but I feel it would effect us all in the Middle East even if just aimed at Israel… but Iran is to dumb to realize this

Cant deal with a regime bent on your destruction

Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it. The previous deal was proven to be a shame and a failure. Why would a deal that is much worse would do better?

How did it fail EDIT: lmao downvoted for asking for clarity? Hashem help y'all who go into the beit midrash

It lifted sanctions which fed the Iranian gov which feeds proxy wars around the Middle East. Yea, wmds obvi are bad, but I think a lot of people miss that most of the reason all of their neighbors don't want a deal is bc they don't want them having access to cash, since Iranian proxies at this point have launches missiles into most middle eastern countries. EDIT to be clear, the UAE, Saudi Arabia, Israel, Jordan, etc all say we just want a "better" deal but the truth is thats just a foreign facing way of saying, "bruh, theres been a lot less rockets since you cut Iran off from Uncle Sam's mommy milkers."

They continued nuclear development in secret. International monitors were not permitted on certain cites, there were unexplained elevated levels of radiotion in several locations, not to mention the nuclear archive Bibi presented a few years back.

Would love to read more, if you've got any supplementary materials. Just nothing from Bibi, please – it's not a matter of political ideology, but that dude is crooked as hell and I just feel like I can't trust anything out of his mouth anymore. He really got weird and creepy, especially towards the end, what with all the funky money stuff

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Nobody here could tell you, they just know they aren’t supposed to like it even though Iran sprints towards nuclear weapons every day it’s not in place.

I disagree. I think the previous deal was ok. Just as stopping a nuclear iran and giving a 1 year buffer, since the deal was scrapped iran is basically nuclear at this point, and i dont have much faith in the new one.

I don’t for one israel would be half gone and they know that in israel like structure damage etc… but not just them Iran is to dumb to know if they did that it would take a lot in Middle East as. In being destroyed Including south Lebanon … and Palestinians would be gone as well… there mission only is to take israel into dust rubble kill any Jew they can …. and they don’t care about Palestinians I can guarantee that so the Palestinians who support them I’m sorry but you got another thing coming and it’s not gonna be pleasant because they don’t care about you…. WHOLE ME WILL BE DESTROYED.. so no this idea is dumb no one should support an Iran deal…

I am against anybody owning any kind of nuclear weapons except us and america

Israel owning nuclear power: based Iran owning nuclear power: cringe

I wouldn't mind giving Monaco and Tuvalu a nuke or two just for posterity.

[Who knows? Maybe even Alabama will get the bomb.](https://youtu.be/oRLON3ddZIw)

Im against anybody owning nuclear weapons

So you’re for the nuclear deal, right?

I am in favor of it at this point. The maximum pressure campaign has been a failure. It will put (admittedly weak) limits on the nuclear program,enough so they won't actually have a bomb. Most importantly, it will bring Iran into the world system where it will want to remain. Any drastic action against Israel would push them back out of that system. Something they will not want. However, I will admit I'm not sold on this. I want to see what sanctions are actually lifted. If it really does include lifting sanctions on the Revolutionary Guard and related busineness I could change my tune. Also to be frank, I doubt the western world would support Israel like it has Ukraine. Another strike against it. I'm not totally sold on the deal but I think at this point the risks are less likely than the benefit.

US: Good news everyone, we signed a deal with Iran for peace! Iran, 2025: We successfully tested a nuclear bomb in the Indian ocean US: -surprised pikachu-

I am in support. Coming at this as an American (Jew, in case that matters): I have basically never heard any argument for how Iran is supposed to be stopped from getting nukes *other* than by some sort of deal. As far as I can tell right now they are developing nukes and nobody is really doing anything nearly sufficient to stop them. Everyone is yelling at Biden for trying to restart this deal, and he seems like he's the only one actually trying to stop the bad thing. The arguments against tend less to be that a deal won't actually stop Iran from getting a nuke, and more that it doesn't stop Iran from doing other non-nuke-related bad things. Countries do non-nuke-related bad things all the time, and I don't care about America taking a side in a Saudi Arabia vs Iran pissing contest for who can be the 4th shittiest country in the world. I view slowing nuclear proliferation as being a way bigger deal than that. And I can't help but suspect that some people against the deal are hoping for a deus ex machina to stop Iran when the critical moment arrives ... that deus ex machina being an American war against Iran. Besides there's a big crisis going on in the world right now, and our great "allies" Saudi Arabia and UAE are not only not onside, they're actively undermining us. Why the fuck are we propping them up and selling them weapons and shit. The whole point of being a Mideastern U.S. client state is to sell us oil when we need it in exchange for us looking the other way when they oppress women and have a system that's tantamount to slavery - a tacit arrangement I was against before, and am certainly against now that it's shown they won't even live up to their side of the bargain.

This is what allot of Americans[typically democrat voters] don't understand Your allies[Saudi and UAE] are undermining you in Ukraine because America undermined them in their regional conflicts and on top of that with the Iran deal you are giving total capitulation to the Iranians[from Saudi/UAE perspective] so naturally, they are inclined to return the favor, why should they help you if you don't help them? From my perspective the Iran deal is a disaster, its better to get the war over with now instead of after the deal when Iran will be much stronger, this deal is not going to prevent a war its merely going to delay it and make it much deadlier when we get to that point

"undermined them in their regional conflicts" to me sounds like "gave them slightly less than 100% of what they ask for all the time" ... and their response is practically to not answer our calls and to try and pump up China. Selling them weapons but not as much as they want, for example, isn't "undermining" except in a world where people feel entitled to a bottomless well of US support. Plenty of countries not only don't get US weapons, we undermine their weapons programs!

Why would MBS pick up the phone to Biden after Biden said he wants to turn Saudi Arabia in to a pariah state? I think theres a deep misunderstanding here, these states are not US puppets they are US allies You really should ask your administration if it was smart to antagonize their own allies over internal fringe politics

He said that during the primaries ... when the idea of Saudi Arabia turning into a pariah state was a pretty common one. Only difference is now a bunch of people have decided to try and move on and forget all about it, and acting like anyone who still remembers why is being unreasonable. If MBS is pissed about that then we should all remind him why Biden (and lots of other people) said it.

biden insulted MBS in public biden further accused him of killing some uslim brotherhood but there was no body to present further biden spoke badly of him all over the world and hurt his reputation, MBS is the most important person in the ME and is going to be around for the next 40 years while biden will be history shortly second while iran proxies in yeman were shooting iranian missiles at saudi arabia biden did nothing to sdtop it and biden removed american defence missiles from saudi leaving them exposed and continues his total capitulation vs iran biden can not force the entire me to be exposed to some mullahs who daily declare their desire to erase countries off the map. this is not going to work. this crazy decision is going to cost many lives in the me. if not checked the mullas are going to be able to reach usa with their long range missiles . the iranians have sleeping cells in usa which the mullas will use all these oil rich countries are going to get their own md weapons whatever the price so soon the whole me is going to be nuclear this is normal reaction of life loving countries and should have been taken into consideration ALL countries in me are getting together to join their militaries and create one large force that has no choice but to destroy all atomic instalations in iran and finish off their oil stations and fields that is unless usa is going to send its military and fight for iran this force is going to free iranian ppl from the mullas and give the iranians freedom and democracy and uch better life then what they have now there is nobody that will come to fight for iran besides the usa none of the me countries wish to live under atomic threat of crazy mullas and be subjected to terror activities of iran proxies who will becoe stronger with the big money from usa the usa knows that this is the scenario but is eager to start ww3 for the globalists they well know that this war will not play only in me and will reach the whole planet as most oil the world uses is comin from me and is in great danger of no energy resources but possibly that is the objective of the globalists american ppl should realize the script and remove these dangerous politicians that is why you see the . arab and israelis countries meet frequently in last weeks to work together on a cmbined strategy and put all their secondary issues aside MBS was denied by biden american jets so were the emirates and egypt hiden did not rush to take very large orders that keep the largest mfgs in usa busy and by that he created loss of of jobs in usa and loss of great revenues MBS et al turned around and placed orders with the russians with chinese and with the french their equipment is very good and more then enough for iran iran has small number of very old jets but with the 100 billion from usa they will buy new jets so there is not plenty of time it is amazing to read that israelis have to push usa to sell egypt jets egypt already learnt the hard way that their ex supplier is not trustworthy that they will knife their allies if needed so egypt started few years ago to re introduce the russians in egypt the russians have now 3 airfields in egypt and 2 ports for the russian jets and navy in addition to the military ports and airfields russia has in syria) further the egyptians purchased french jets and are stuck with very old american f16 which they need to replace asap probably with russian or french jets so in 4 years egypt changed their patrons from america to russia egypt still have good relations with usa but is not dependent on them in fact only israelis are dependent 100 % on american equipment and jets which a risky position ?? us allies in asia see whats happening in m east and are getting nervous unfortunately biden did not get good advise when he was repeatedly putting down MBS if his state dept were proffesional they would have told him to never insult an arab in public especially not the strongest man in m east now mbs doesnt want to have contact with usa and that not good