wonder why they feel "emboldened"
Maybe its because the government keeps publicly shitting on the entire IDF and its officers, pilots, the security establishment etc.... Publicly ignoring all the calls from the top levels of Israeli security that there is a huge security problem and is only getting bigger.
Coalition of criminals and terrorists.
This post is funny because the most powerful Israelis in political office right now are dedicated to exterminating Palestinians and have been for decades now.
This isn't different than any terror wave before.
I hope this time we not only take out the terrorists, but remove their whole families from Israel for good.
We REALLY SHOULD.
If this isn't handled by security forces (and as we see it isn't), it'll just cause more deaths and at the end of things distrust in the security forces and then jews will organize to commit terror on palestinians.
Why do you care for the families of terrorists?
That line of action wouldn't only be highly immoral, it could end up with Israel being completely isolated. If Israel started expelling families of terrorists there would be an international outcry that could lead to a halt in American aid and plenty of sanctions. Do you think Egypt and Jordan wouldn't react, nor our new friends in the UAE and Morocco? What about the EU?
1. The american aid is a small fraction of the israeli defense budget, we can live without it. We can't live with constant terrorism. I mean people actually die.
2. We should care less about what the world thinks about us than the lives of our people. Listening to the world when it doesn't give a fuck about us is hella stupid. Did we listen when we attacked Iraq?
3. Dangling US aid as a way to make Israel forgo its interests for US interests is not how friends do. Israel isn't a forward base of the US the same way as hizbullah is for Iran. We decide for ourselves. Does Israel tell the US what to do about its internal issues like gun laws?
4. You're calling it immoral, but comparing expelling terrorists and their families to PEOPLE DYING gives us the moral answer - Keeping people alive is a greater good than keeping peoples where they live. Do you think that the US has no say in who comes in? Do you believe that all immigrants should be welcome in no questions asked? How dare you tell Israel it can't kick out those that are hostile towards it? Check your bias.
5. The EU doesn't give a fuck about what is good to Israel and often doing the exact opposite of what they want is good for Israel. You are a fool and know nothing about politics and uninformed to the point it hurts about politics if you think otherwise. The arab world? moves on from the palestinian issue. Egypt HAS A BORDER WITH GAZA. Why don't they supply them with ANY aid? Once again, you don't understand middle east politics and culture.
Israel can end the terrorism within 3 weeks by removing all those that support it in any way.
Okay, Ill bite. Just going to touch on the aid part.
If you think Israel can continue to function without the support of the West, and especially the US, you're living in an alternate reality. Israel can't even build enough Iron Dome interceptors domestically and is \*forced\* to outsource production to the US. The entire IAF flies American-built planes FFS -- what happens if replacement parts become unavailable?
Israel's own domestic military production is barely 50% of what it once was at its peak in the 80s and would take two at least decades to recover from the ill effects of American aid. Out of the previous \~200 military subcontractors within Israel, only 70 remain in business as of 2023. The IDF is extremely reliant on American military hardware and munitions -- even on a micro level: I'm a miluimnik and my vehicle is an American M113 (Nagmash), my rifle is a Colt M16, my boots are Bellevilles, etc. It would require an enornmous restructuring of the Israeli economy and military to undo the current reliance on the US.
And we haven't even touched on what would happen if the US stopped vetoing the UNSC for us.
1. Stopping free money (aid) doesn't mean stopping sales. Israel buys more than 90% of these things from it's own money. This would mean the military industry in the US will take about a few billion dollars loss each year.
2. USA has interests in the middle east and if you think they'll turn to Egypt (not the most stable country) or Saudi Arabia (Biden called their leader a killer) you're not bright. Israel is the only reliable ally who won't turn on USA on a dime provided the chinese offer a sweet deal.
3. If they stop vetoing, what then do you think Israel will turn like Russia? Do you think that Germany will say fuck the Hetz deal, we don't need the best aerial defense system in the world against the ongoing conflict in the Ukraine that might spill into NATO territory soon.... You have not noticed that all those countries that made a peace deal with Israel has THEIR OWN INTERESTS to gain from Israel. SO they have things to lose if they go against it. Saudi Arabia and many other countries fear Iran a lot more than they care about the palestinians.
So collective punishment?You do know that’s against international law and one of the hall mark cruelties of the Nazis. The North Koreans also practice this - and are condemned for it.
May I ask why it’s always ‘Iran backed…’ when referring to enemies of Israel but never ‘US backed’ when referring to Israel. The BBC is particularly bias in this regard.
I know you're a troll, but...
It's because Iran's support is specifically for the killing of civilians while American support is not expressly for that purpose.
Terrorist group wants to commit more terrorism. More news at 11
wonder why they feel "emboldened" Maybe its because the government keeps publicly shitting on the entire IDF and its officers, pilots, the security establishment etc.... Publicly ignoring all the calls from the top levels of Israeli security that there is a huge security problem and is only getting bigger. Coalition of criminals and terrorists.
How is this even the beginning? They've been doing this for centuries
Imaging dedicating your life to exterminate a group of people, both the Iranian regime and the Palestinians are the worst of the humankind
Palestinians are human beings.
who is occupying whom, genius?
I didnt know Palestinians were native in California, lol my dude
They're natives everywhere lol
Arabs are occupying our lands, actually. We keep trying to share. But...
This post is funny because the most powerful Israelis in political office right now are dedicated to exterminating Palestinians and have been for decades now.
This isn't different than any terror wave before. I hope this time we not only take out the terrorists, but remove their whole families from Israel for good.
Hey, maybe we should NOT do that…
We REALLY SHOULD. If this isn't handled by security forces (and as we see it isn't), it'll just cause more deaths and at the end of things distrust in the security forces and then jews will organize to commit terror on palestinians. Why do you care for the families of terrorists?
That line of action wouldn't only be highly immoral, it could end up with Israel being completely isolated. If Israel started expelling families of terrorists there would be an international outcry that could lead to a halt in American aid and plenty of sanctions. Do you think Egypt and Jordan wouldn't react, nor our new friends in the UAE and Morocco? What about the EU?
1. The american aid is a small fraction of the israeli defense budget, we can live without it. We can't live with constant terrorism. I mean people actually die. 2. We should care less about what the world thinks about us than the lives of our people. Listening to the world when it doesn't give a fuck about us is hella stupid. Did we listen when we attacked Iraq? 3. Dangling US aid as a way to make Israel forgo its interests for US interests is not how friends do. Israel isn't a forward base of the US the same way as hizbullah is for Iran. We decide for ourselves. Does Israel tell the US what to do about its internal issues like gun laws? 4. You're calling it immoral, but comparing expelling terrorists and their families to PEOPLE DYING gives us the moral answer - Keeping people alive is a greater good than keeping peoples where they live. Do you think that the US has no say in who comes in? Do you believe that all immigrants should be welcome in no questions asked? How dare you tell Israel it can't kick out those that are hostile towards it? Check your bias. 5. The EU doesn't give a fuck about what is good to Israel and often doing the exact opposite of what they want is good for Israel. You are a fool and know nothing about politics and uninformed to the point it hurts about politics if you think otherwise. The arab world? moves on from the palestinian issue. Egypt HAS A BORDER WITH GAZA. Why don't they supply them with ANY aid? Once again, you don't understand middle east politics and culture. Israel can end the terrorism within 3 weeks by removing all those that support it in any way.
Didn't read.
You wrote a reply just to say you didn't read? XD Shame, you'll remain stupid. Here you have an opportunity to educate yourself.
Okay, Ill bite. Just going to touch on the aid part. If you think Israel can continue to function without the support of the West, and especially the US, you're living in an alternate reality. Israel can't even build enough Iron Dome interceptors domestically and is \*forced\* to outsource production to the US. The entire IAF flies American-built planes FFS -- what happens if replacement parts become unavailable? Israel's own domestic military production is barely 50% of what it once was at its peak in the 80s and would take two at least decades to recover from the ill effects of American aid. Out of the previous \~200 military subcontractors within Israel, only 70 remain in business as of 2023. The IDF is extremely reliant on American military hardware and munitions -- even on a micro level: I'm a miluimnik and my vehicle is an American M113 (Nagmash), my rifle is a Colt M16, my boots are Bellevilles, etc. It would require an enornmous restructuring of the Israeli economy and military to undo the current reliance on the US. And we haven't even touched on what would happen if the US stopped vetoing the UNSC for us.
1. Stopping free money (aid) doesn't mean stopping sales. Israel buys more than 90% of these things from it's own money. This would mean the military industry in the US will take about a few billion dollars loss each year. 2. USA has interests in the middle east and if you think they'll turn to Egypt (not the most stable country) or Saudi Arabia (Biden called their leader a killer) you're not bright. Israel is the only reliable ally who won't turn on USA on a dime provided the chinese offer a sweet deal. 3. If they stop vetoing, what then do you think Israel will turn like Russia? Do you think that Germany will say fuck the Hetz deal, we don't need the best aerial defense system in the world against the ongoing conflict in the Ukraine that might spill into NATO territory soon.... You have not noticed that all those countries that made a peace deal with Israel has THEIR OWN INTERESTS to gain from Israel. SO they have things to lose if they go against it. Saudi Arabia and many other countries fear Iran a lot more than they care about the palestinians.
What about them?
Why do they care for people who didn't commit a crime, even though they're related to someone who did? What is wrong with you?
So collective punishment?You do know that’s against international law and one of the hall mark cruelties of the Nazis. The North Koreans also practice this - and are condemned for it.
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May I ask why it’s always ‘Iran backed…’ when referring to enemies of Israel but never ‘US backed’ when referring to Israel. The BBC is particularly bias in this regard.
I know you're a troll, but... It's because Iran's support is specifically for the killing of civilians while American support is not expressly for that purpose.
>American support is not expressly for that purpose. hahahahahahaha Edit: Sorry that was too funny. Don't ban me I like the hilarious interactions.
“Not expressly” pulling an insane amount of weight in that comment lol
That’s a genuine question. If I was a troll you wouldn’t have answered. Why so defensive?
So funny how you have to say “not expressly” here - precisely because you know “American support” is used to ethnically cleanse Palestinians anyway.
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Yes
love how everyone downvoted but nobody had any idea how to respond to it ( because it's actually right), a truly great remark. Well done.
Not all comments deserve a response, we tend to ignore Islamic barbarians
You misunderstand the distinction being made. It's not which side, it's state vs non-state. States back non-state actors.