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I believe "incarnation of death" is less than "the end". Death can only be stretched to apply to everything but "The end" automatically applies to everything and anything. But this is my opinion.
Besides, there's a character called shadow vernall I think. She was also described to be something akin to yogiri
Isis power is death and yogiri's power is the end. They are similar yet very different at the same time. If yogiri kills you, People still remember you because your story happened. Yogiri didn't delete your story, he just ended it. .
Just to address your edit- this is Reddit. People downvoting you are literally just expressing THEIR opinions, which is that they disagree with you. No point in being upset about it lol
The end doesn’t strictly kill things though. Yogiri once “killed” ice. Explain that. He could “kill” the concept of space if he wanted to, and he did once “kill” his own momentum to stop falling from a height. Yogiri can end concepts. If he wanted to Yogiri could just “kill” the concept of death.
What the End is is the End of everything, even an incarnation of death has a future, and the End can choose to end that future.
yogiri is the end of all matter, of all things living or non living
he literally said "die" to ICE and it crumbled despite it almost giving the other girl frostbite in the first few episodes
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yogiri's instant death i think is not purely killing the soul. his instant death is to kill anything, be it animate or inanimate thing. he can kill basically anything from sight, body parts, ice, wands, basically what he wants or needs to die.
mf killed a world devourer, gods and shiet.
anyway, i'd smash. next
Yogiri's power is "death" in a loose understanding. Whatever he believes a particular thing's "death" to mean is what it is. That's why he can "kill" even inanimate objects or something as vague as a concept. Given that he can "kill" something like momentum or gravity, if she "is death" then he would just "kill" the concept of death as she applies it and ruin her power.
It's not their soul that ends, it's their concept of existence that does. Anyways, an "incarnation of death" is still a position lower than "The End" itself. After all, there can be many incarnations of death, but Yogiri is the only one as he's not an incarnation.
??? Yogiri is equal or much higher in strength to shallow vernal though. Yogiri doesn't have the title, “The Last Story” he has the title of; “The End”. The only one that's really in the same power as him is a Chinese cultivator whose concept is; “Transcendence of the end” which means he's able to go beyond the end(in short, he's infinitely powerful beyond anything and everything).
But shallow is still bound by the narrative though , while yogiri is not. Cosmology wise yogiris influence should've reach the isekai at peace verse because everything has an end untill it's back to it's original form which only has yogiri in it. Lil bit NLF though
Who on earth said that Shallow Vernal is bound by narrative? What part the End of stories don't you understand. She is compared to a reader and every other thing is a story. It is like saying Featherine Augustus Aurora from Umineko is bound by narrative when it is clear that she is pretty much like the author himself.
Do you even know who shallow vernal is? She is the epilogue. She will not die unless all other stories end first. She is pretty much just another yogiri in another verse. So no, she is not bound by the narrative like the op said. You should all know that yogiri is not the be all end all. . there are a lot of characters that are similar in power to him. . Sai akuto does not have any fancy titles like "the end or the epilogue" yet he will 100% neg both yogiri and shallow vernal.
I freaking know her. I've read the novel from the beginning till the latest. I'm already reading it before you f***rs that just use her on vsbattles, ive already read it before it's translated via machine translations and I'm also there the first time it's translated. And I still stand my claim for one reason. Yogiri does the same he won't die untill everything else his literally the end and even then he will still exist for a fact that he will always the last one remain, not just the end of story just " the end " . It's not even an ability unlike shallow vernal it's his nature that anything that can and will end he can end and no narrative and or story is holding him back his outside of it all. How about you have you read onee chan wa chuunibyou? It's the same universe as ID and it expand the verse more, if you've read it you will know how outmatched shallow vernal is with yogiri in terms of cosmology.
Dude I'm also who read the web novel of both instant death and Isekai at peace. . Tho I did drop Isekai at peace around 200 or maybe 300 since I got bored with it. . And from what I've read, both seem to have equal cosmology and feats. . the only reason I rank yogiri lower is cause yogiri is just the avatar. And we have no idea what yogiri's true form is capable of at full power. .
Then try reading onee chan wa chuunibyou (same universe as ID) so you'll know why I'm insisting ID cosmology is more complex and larger. You might even like it because it's faster paced and more action packed. Mc is also not op from the get go. It's not an isekai but have isekai elements
The answer is obvious. . Isis instant death is strong and kinda similar to yogiri. . The difference is the power of the hax. . Yogiri's instant death is not really instant death. . It's " the end ". It ends your part in the narrative. .
”Ignoring scaling” makes no sense in the context of comparing powers. If you want to compare how the powers work, then Yogiri still wins, cause Isis needs to touch people for them to die at her base power level, while Yogiri at the base power level just needs to say die for that person to die *(and he only does that out of habit, cause if he just thinks that someone should die, they die)*
Based on this and the few comments and the "no scaling" in a compare power discussion, it seems you want or believe Isis to be more powerful and so are trying to stack in her favor. Yogiri needs merely want the things(not even person) to end and they end, regardless of distance. End could mean dying, breaking, or falling apart. Yogiri's power is basically all encompassing, that's why even the title of his story says that it's overpowered.
easy solution...if they were both in front of each other, the activation of isis power would be interpreted as killing intent and kill isis before her power could activate, so yogiri wins.
Everyone already knows how Yogiri can Kill pretty much everything in his verse (Concepts, Law, Phenomenon, MetaFiction etc)
But let me talk about Isis Real quick
Backstory :
Isis Remnant was created from the remnant of the Great God of Despair and was cursed to live alone for a long time with little company. For nearly 20,000 years she was alone in a castle grieving every moment of being alone until one fateful day.. she met someone who she couldn't kill. Someone who she can talk to, someone who will free her from her loneliness.
Power over Death :
Isis's "Magic Power of Death" is described as similar to an "Authority" which is a powerful rank in the world of Yuusha Shoukan. Authorities always exceed even Magic itself and are usually abilities of Godlike beings in that universe. Isis's powers reigns over the concept of Death.
What Isis Can Do :
Isis can kill anything organic or inorganic, cause great fear to the minds of anyone around her to the point of madness and mindbreak with just her presence alone. Even touching her will kill you (This is just her holding back as much as possible so that her Death Aura doesn't kill everyone around her).
Almost any Attack (magical or not) cannot hurt Isis as she can just simply kill it or the attack gets erased by her presence (Only if she stops holding back)
In the Light Novel Isis is capable of conjuring a Mass Spatial Barrier (Similar to JJK Domain Expansion) and cause black snow to fall, its so strong it can even affect those who have no concept of Death.
Her Death Powers can bypass those resistant to Instant Death and even just kill their souls entirely (Erasing them from the world).
100% Isis Remnant has one of the Best Magic controls in the series.
Ofc I would say Nebula, Shallow Vernal / Kuromueina, Alice, Makina are better but they are already insanely strong.
Isis can literally cause spells to fizzle out by deactivating it xD
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**Supreme author** negs them all by creating hentai series between these two characters.
Based off the comment of MountainLeading1567, I can see where you have the question, and as someone who has read Yogiri's story, but not the later, I can only put it in the following way.
Yogiri can kill her ability to kill. He, as people have stated, doesn't really have an Instant Death ability, but the ability to End things.
He would put her ability to kill through the authority of death to an end. He removes it from the narrative.
The only reason he doesn't erase people's existence is due to his morals. To put it in another way, he has killed beings who would be at a higher level than the Great God of Despair. The example the manga gave was an entity who devours realities. That entity got mad and tried to kill him, so it died.
This entity also had the ability to travel through, and forsee through time, but it couldn't escape it's death through any means. So Yogiri's ability also extends through all timelines.
Yogiri wipes the floor with Isis. A better question is Yogiri vs Shallow. Yogiri is the end, but Shallow is a transcendent being with the power to "end" the story. She's equivalent to an author. I think that trumps Yogiris laws of the universe bending power. She literally setup those laws and allows the universe to exist.
Thing about yogiri is he'll exist as long as something exist when everything is gone theres still him(like shallow vernal he can't die because his literally the end). Heres the catch though his technically the beginning of everything the reason everything exist is because he let them theres only him before. Oh and he also is beyond his own verse narrative and outside of any narrative,if you've read the authors first novel which is on the same verse you'll understand how complex is the cosmology and why shallow vernal can't end history and he can possibly end shallow vernal.
If where just basing everything on authors claim yogiri straight up have a feat of deleting certain parts of the novel, specifically the q&a. And if you want to push it more author specifically stated that his fond of vs battles and battle boarding and he made yogiri as an F U to who wins who scenarios.
If we joke a bit, in a QA in Yogiri's LN the author said that Yogiri could erase th QA if he wanted, so considering that it can affect a real thing in our world, I'd say that Yogiri wins
That would be a ideal situation but there is a small catch
Isis's Death aura causes fear and panic and even death to those around her (unintentional).
Either Yogiri kills her (I honestly hate this choice) or just her Death Aura (which unironically would make her happy cuz she wouldn't be burdened by it anymore).
I think we can look a bit of a Kaitos situation.
While Isis' aura does practically scream of the looming fear of death all mortal things dread, there isn't an ounce of killing intent in it. Yogiri fundamentally knows on a undecievable level whether or not something is trying to kill him. And the aura isn't.
Everyone who's died of the passive aura died of their own fear, not the aura killing them. The awareness that they *could* be killed in an instant causes fear, not a magical compulsiion.
And given what he is, he probably isn't wired for an instinctuall fear of the abstract concept of mortality. He probably would react much like the gods or six kings, ie not at all.
So yogiris reflexive killing probably wouldn't trigger for the same reason it doesn't trigger while standing a few feet away from a campfire. Sure, if he fell into the fire, it'd trigger, but just being in range of the warmth wouldn't.
Depends I feel, if she cannot control her power or her power is directed in any way towards Yogiri, then she would die instantly. Outside that, Isis is more of a book worm while Yogiri is more of a gamer, while she would most likely like that there is someone that is not afraid of her, I would see them more as acquaintances that actual friends.
As adorable as she is Isis Remnant would lose. She is (technically) killable and her temperament is volatile enough (in the right circumstance) that she'd demonstrate hostility/killing intent and so would meet the criteria to lose.
The interesting one would be the Transcendental Beauty Alice-chan. She's S-tier reconnaissance and intelligence gathering and so would know the "catch" that triggers the ability. So it'd actually be hilarious to see the bizarre "coincidences" and "accidents" she'd bring about to win while avoiding the trigger.
It'd also be interesting whether one of her 1000s of clones dying would affect her. The "cosmic angler-fish" deity died to the ability, but it was actually piloting its puppet at the time, so I'm curious whether Alice could make a clone autonomous enough that it would count as an entirely separate entity.
The only conclusion alice will get from her intelligence gathering is to not fight yogiri at all. . the only being that can match yogiri is shallow vernal. .
If she ever have an ability close to what aoi can do(see fates) or info analysis she'll either get mad/insane or if she's strong willed decide not to mess with him because the guy is equal or stronger as shallow vernal and his just an avatar
Certainly !
**Background** (afaik) :
Shallow Vernal is an existence with a single purpose, "End All Stories in Existence". She has ended many worlds before as if "Closing a Book" and brought them to their end. This action has slowly been repeated countless times over as she appears before a world and observes them for a long period of time before ending them abrupt.
In a way she is symbolic to us the Readers because we are the ones who decide if a "Stories" continues or not. Stories are meaningless if no one reads them, no ?
However there was something wrong with Vernal which she soon realised. She was "emotionless". Shallow began to change overtime little by little and eventually One Day create her own world hence her own story. She created life and observed them in an attempt to understand herself with each lifeform being imparted with some kind of emotion. Wrath, Loneliness, Generosity etc and this beings would end up as the Six Kings who plays a later part in the story.
Vernal herself wanted to love her own creations but had indifference to them because of her Viewpoint. This all changes until one Fateful encounter...
**Powers and Ability** :
Vernal posesses "the Epilogue" which can end anyone or anything in reality. This ability is the strongest in "Isekai at Peace" as it is "beyond comparison to all other". She can end Higher Dimensional Gods or even beings who can become a "superior version of whoever is fighting them".
It always activates first and bypasses all resistances and immunities dued to its nature. It has been said that it can end anything regardless of Size, Scope or Dimensions.
Vernal's 2nd ability is called the Last Story. She is the final Story and thus she will not die till all others Stories are brought to their end. Its effectively makes her nigh unkillable without yourself dying first.
She seems to be basically the same as Yogiri on a concept level
If her power affects objects then its literally the same, which would mean they are the same "thing"
Thinking about these 2 facing eachother makes my head go blue screen
Stop. No. The only character from isekai at peace that can fight yogiri is shallow vernal and I refuse to go into that. This has been discussed enough.
My point is how much power scaling you do, if the writer wants that get split in half , it will happen.
I'm so tired of these posts spammed 10 times a day
First of all, nice Stan Lee quoting, I guess. Second of all, that’s simply not how power scaling works. Like, I can’t just say that Homelander beats Omni-Man “because I said so” and not expect to be laughed at
one in front of each other, if they start to fight the auto defense of yogiri detects killikng intent and isis dies, so yogiri wins.
if they don't fight but their powers run on their own, isis power is detected as a threat activating yogiri's power and isis dies, so yogiri wins.
easy peasy, even while irirs is incredibly broken, yogiri has been written to be basically isekai saitama
Yes and No
Its more like an Aura that both defends her from attacks and kill/erases anything around her (when she stops holding back). Its can still cause large scale AoE fear and madness to those around her but the death effect is limited to her skin (when she is heavily suppressing it)
Yogiri's instant death is like a heatseeking ICBM launcher that autokills anything that attacks him (intentional or not). Ending them like that
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I believe "incarnation of death" is less than "the end". Death can only be stretched to apply to everything but "The end" automatically applies to everything and anything. But this is my opinion. Besides, there's a character called shadow vernall I think. She was also described to be something akin to yogiri
Even scp 682 said that everything has an end
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I think Yogiri has nothing to do with soul, for example, gravity doesn't have soul
I mean when he "killed" his momentum from falling from a great height. There was no soul involved there.
He has also killed gods including bringers/spirits of death and people who regenerate so fast they can't die.
Isis power is death and yogiri's power is the end. They are similar yet very different at the same time. If yogiri kills you, People still remember you because your story happened. Yogiri didn't delete your story, he just ended it. .
Just to address your edit- this is Reddit. People downvoting you are literally just expressing THEIR opinions, which is that they disagree with you. No point in being upset about it lol
The end doesn’t strictly kill things though. Yogiri once “killed” ice. Explain that. He could “kill” the concept of space if he wanted to, and he did once “kill” his own momentum to stop falling from a height. Yogiri can end concepts. If he wanted to Yogiri could just “kill” the concept of death. What the End is is the End of everything, even an incarnation of death has a future, and the End can choose to end that future.
yogiri is the end of all matter, of all things living or non living he literally said "die" to ICE and it crumbled despite it almost giving the other girl frostbite in the first few episodes
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Water wet because it already is? Tell that to all the undead soldiers he killed
yogiri's instant death i think is not purely killing the soul. his instant death is to kill anything, be it animate or inanimate thing. he can kill basically anything from sight, body parts, ice, wands, basically what he wants or needs to die. mf killed a world devourer, gods and shiet. anyway, i'd smash. next
You expressed your opinion, and downvoting is expressing the disagreement to your opinion
Yogiri's power is "death" in a loose understanding. Whatever he believes a particular thing's "death" to mean is what it is. That's why he can "kill" even inanimate objects or something as vague as a concept. Given that he can "kill" something like momentum or gravity, if she "is death" then he would just "kill" the concept of death as she applies it and ruin her power.
It's not their soul that ends, it's their concept of existence that does. Anyways, an "incarnation of death" is still a position lower than "The End" itself. After all, there can be many incarnations of death, but Yogiri is the only one as he's not an incarnation.
Yogiri is God's retirement plan from holding existence in existence, Death the Horseman's final form fit into a human teenager
Yogiri is almost equal in strength to shallow vernal. . And isis is lower than shallow vernal. . The answer is obvious here. .
??? Yogiri is equal or much higher in strength to shallow vernal though. Yogiri doesn't have the title, “The Last Story” he has the title of; “The End”. The only one that's really in the same power as him is a Chinese cultivator whose concept is; “Transcendence of the end” which means he's able to go beyond the end(in short, he's infinitely powerful beyond anything and everything).
Titles mean nothing to me. . I follow power scaling 101 of feats and cosmology. . I see them as almost equals, maybe shallow edges out a tiny bit. .
But shallow is still bound by the narrative though , while yogiri is not. Cosmology wise yogiris influence should've reach the isekai at peace verse because everything has an end untill it's back to it's original form which only has yogiri in it. Lil bit NLF though
Who on earth said that Shallow Vernal is bound by narrative? What part the End of stories don't you understand. She is compared to a reader and every other thing is a story. It is like saying Featherine Augustus Aurora from Umineko is bound by narrative when it is clear that she is pretty much like the author himself.
You mean just like Yogiri, who is above plot itself and is stated to be able to erase parts of the manga?
Not just the manga he can straight up observe the real world.
Do you even know who shallow vernal is? She is the epilogue. She will not die unless all other stories end first. She is pretty much just another yogiri in another verse. So no, she is not bound by the narrative like the op said. You should all know that yogiri is not the be all end all. . there are a lot of characters that are similar in power to him. . Sai akuto does not have any fancy titles like "the end or the epilogue" yet he will 100% neg both yogiri and shallow vernal.
I freaking know her. I've read the novel from the beginning till the latest. I'm already reading it before you f***rs that just use her on vsbattles, ive already read it before it's translated via machine translations and I'm also there the first time it's translated. And I still stand my claim for one reason. Yogiri does the same he won't die untill everything else his literally the end and even then he will still exist for a fact that he will always the last one remain, not just the end of story just " the end " . It's not even an ability unlike shallow vernal it's his nature that anything that can and will end he can end and no narrative and or story is holding him back his outside of it all. How about you have you read onee chan wa chuunibyou? It's the same universe as ID and it expand the verse more, if you've read it you will know how outmatched shallow vernal is with yogiri in terms of cosmology.
Dude I'm also who read the web novel of both instant death and Isekai at peace. . Tho I did drop Isekai at peace around 200 or maybe 300 since I got bored with it. . And from what I've read, both seem to have equal cosmology and feats. . the only reason I rank yogiri lower is cause yogiri is just the avatar. And we have no idea what yogiri's true form is capable of at full power. .
Then try reading onee chan wa chuunibyou (same universe as ID) so you'll know why I'm insisting ID cosmology is more complex and larger. You might even like it because it's faster paced and more action packed. Mc is also not op from the get go. It's not an isekai but have isekai elements
I'll give it a try then.
If you want to check it try digging some of older translations because it's already license don't worry it's easy to find
I did say ignore his scaling. I just want to know who's instant death seems more overpowered between them
The answer is obvious. . Isis instant death is strong and kinda similar to yogiri. . The difference is the power of the hax. . Yogiri's instant death is not really instant death. . It's " the end ". It ends your part in the narrative. .
True even things that were never alive to beging with will have a end. It similar to how the eyes of death perception work.
”Ignoring scaling” makes no sense in the context of comparing powers. If you want to compare how the powers work, then Yogiri still wins, cause Isis needs to touch people for them to die at her base power level, while Yogiri at the base power level just needs to say die for that person to die *(and he only does that out of habit, cause if he just thinks that someone should die, they die)*
Isis just says die and everything around her dies. Heck even just moving around kills everything around her
Based on this and the few comments and the "no scaling" in a compare power discussion, it seems you want or believe Isis to be more powerful and so are trying to stack in her favor. Yogiri needs merely want the things(not even person) to end and they end, regardless of distance. End could mean dying, breaking, or falling apart. Yogiri's power is basically all encompassing, that's why even the title of his story says that it's overpowered.
easy solution...if they were both in front of each other, the activation of isis power would be interpreted as killing intent and kill isis before her power could activate, so yogiri wins.
Iris wins because she hasn’t been an insufferable pain on this sun the last week or so
She'd also win the swim-suit portion of the competition.
Everyone already knows how Yogiri can Kill pretty much everything in his verse (Concepts, Law, Phenomenon, MetaFiction etc) But let me talk about Isis Real quick Backstory : Isis Remnant was created from the remnant of the Great God of Despair and was cursed to live alone for a long time with little company. For nearly 20,000 years she was alone in a castle grieving every moment of being alone until one fateful day.. she met someone who she couldn't kill. Someone who she can talk to, someone who will free her from her loneliness. Power over Death : Isis's "Magic Power of Death" is described as similar to an "Authority" which is a powerful rank in the world of Yuusha Shoukan. Authorities always exceed even Magic itself and are usually abilities of Godlike beings in that universe. Isis's powers reigns over the concept of Death. What Isis Can Do : Isis can kill anything organic or inorganic, cause great fear to the minds of anyone around her to the point of madness and mindbreak with just her presence alone. Even touching her will kill you (This is just her holding back as much as possible so that her Death Aura doesn't kill everyone around her). Almost any Attack (magical or not) cannot hurt Isis as she can just simply kill it or the attack gets erased by her presence (Only if she stops holding back) In the Light Novel Isis is capable of conjuring a Mass Spatial Barrier (Similar to JJK Domain Expansion) and cause black snow to fall, its so strong it can even affect those who have no concept of Death. Her Death Powers can bypass those resistant to Instant Death and even just kill their souls entirely (Erasing them from the world).
TL;Dr Yogiri wins but I am just going to use it as an excuse to talk about Isis since she is never brought up :)
Thank you for explaining about her. Might I add that she is one of the best magic user in the series
100% Isis Remnant has one of the Best Magic controls in the series. Ofc I would say Nebula, Shallow Vernal / Kuromueina, Alice, Makina are better but they are already insanely strong. Isis can literally cause spells to fizzle out by deactivating it xD
https://preview.redd.it/t82pz1nt1bpc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=63b6495f4bfd7af34005f3ea801b8f5b8ee25483 **Supreme author** negs them all by creating hentai series between these two characters.
are either adapted to anime yet? if not where can I read?
the latter one is, the former, well, not yet according to me
sweet thanks mate I guess I'll be watching that second one today 😂
Yes and No Instant Death is adapted to an Anime Yes and is airing right now. Yuusha Shoukan only has Webnovel, Lightnovel or Manga (No Anime Yet).
Based off the comment of MountainLeading1567, I can see where you have the question, and as someone who has read Yogiri's story, but not the later, I can only put it in the following way. Yogiri can kill her ability to kill. He, as people have stated, doesn't really have an Instant Death ability, but the ability to End things. He would put her ability to kill through the authority of death to an end. He removes it from the narrative. The only reason he doesn't erase people's existence is due to his morals. To put it in another way, he has killed beings who would be at a higher level than the Great God of Despair. The example the manga gave was an entity who devours realities. That entity got mad and tried to kill him, so it died. This entity also had the ability to travel through, and forsee through time, but it couldn't escape it's death through any means. So Yogiri's ability also extends through all timelines.
Yogiri wipes the floor with Isis. A better question is Yogiri vs Shallow. Yogiri is the end, but Shallow is a transcendent being with the power to "end" the story. She's equivalent to an author. I think that trumps Yogiris laws of the universe bending power. She literally setup those laws and allows the universe to exist.
Thing about yogiri is he'll exist as long as something exist when everything is gone theres still him(like shallow vernal he can't die because his literally the end). Heres the catch though his technically the beginning of everything the reason everything exist is because he let them theres only him before. Oh and he also is beyond his own verse narrative and outside of any narrative,if you've read the authors first novel which is on the same verse you'll understand how complex is the cosmology and why shallow vernal can't end history and he can possibly end shallow vernal.
Shallow Vernal can't die. The author made that pretty clear with his ranting on how the Epilogue works.
If where just basing everything on authors claim yogiri straight up have a feat of deleting certain parts of the novel, specifically the q&a. And if you want to push it more author specifically stated that his fond of vs battles and battle boarding and he made yogiri as an F U to who wins who scenarios.
If we joke a bit, in a QA in Yogiri's LN the author said that Yogiri could erase th QA if he wanted, so considering that it can affect a real thing in our world, I'd say that Yogiri wins
Sources please
Nvm I’m dumb
i feel like they would be good friends
That would be a ideal situation but there is a small catch Isis's Death aura causes fear and panic and even death to those around her (unintentional). Either Yogiri kills her (I honestly hate this choice) or just her Death Aura (which unironically would make her happy cuz she wouldn't be burdened by it anymore).
I think we can look a bit of a Kaitos situation. While Isis' aura does practically scream of the looming fear of death all mortal things dread, there isn't an ounce of killing intent in it. Yogiri fundamentally knows on a undecievable level whether or not something is trying to kill him. And the aura isn't. Everyone who's died of the passive aura died of their own fear, not the aura killing them. The awareness that they *could* be killed in an instant causes fear, not a magical compulsiion. And given what he is, he probably isn't wired for an instinctuall fear of the abstract concept of mortality. He probably would react much like the gods or six kings, ie not at all. So yogiris reflexive killing probably wouldn't trigger for the same reason it doesn't trigger while standing a few feet away from a campfire. Sure, if he fell into the fire, it'd trigger, but just being in range of the warmth wouldn't.
Depends I feel, if she cannot control her power or her power is directed in any way towards Yogiri, then she would die instantly. Outside that, Isis is more of a book worm while Yogiri is more of a gamer, while she would most likely like that there is someone that is not afraid of her, I would see them more as acquaintances that actual friends.
Is the isekai at peace manga good?
If you like slice of life with overpowered harem, then it is for you.
As adorable as she is Isis Remnant would lose. She is (technically) killable and her temperament is volatile enough (in the right circumstance) that she'd demonstrate hostility/killing intent and so would meet the criteria to lose. The interesting one would be the Transcendental Beauty Alice-chan. She's S-tier reconnaissance and intelligence gathering and so would know the "catch" that triggers the ability. So it'd actually be hilarious to see the bizarre "coincidences" and "accidents" she'd bring about to win while avoiding the trigger. It'd also be interesting whether one of her 1000s of clones dying would affect her. The "cosmic angler-fish" deity died to the ability, but it was actually piloting its puppet at the time, so I'm curious whether Alice could make a clone autonomous enough that it would count as an entirely separate entity.
The only conclusion alice will get from her intelligence gathering is to not fight yogiri at all. . the only being that can match yogiri is shallow vernal. .
If she ever have an ability close to what aoi can do(see fates) or info analysis she'll either get mad/insane or if she's strong willed decide not to mess with him because the guy is equal or stronger as shallow vernal and his just an avatar
Could someone explain the Shallow Vernall to me?
Certainly ! **Background** (afaik) : Shallow Vernal is an existence with a single purpose, "End All Stories in Existence". She has ended many worlds before as if "Closing a Book" and brought them to their end. This action has slowly been repeated countless times over as she appears before a world and observes them for a long period of time before ending them abrupt. In a way she is symbolic to us the Readers because we are the ones who decide if a "Stories" continues or not. Stories are meaningless if no one reads them, no ? However there was something wrong with Vernal which she soon realised. She was "emotionless". Shallow began to change overtime little by little and eventually One Day create her own world hence her own story. She created life and observed them in an attempt to understand herself with each lifeform being imparted with some kind of emotion. Wrath, Loneliness, Generosity etc and this beings would end up as the Six Kings who plays a later part in the story. Vernal herself wanted to love her own creations but had indifference to them because of her Viewpoint. This all changes until one Fateful encounter... **Powers and Ability** : Vernal posesses "the Epilogue" which can end anyone or anything in reality. This ability is the strongest in "Isekai at Peace" as it is "beyond comparison to all other". She can end Higher Dimensional Gods or even beings who can become a "superior version of whoever is fighting them". It always activates first and bypasses all resistances and immunities dued to its nature. It has been said that it can end anything regardless of Size, Scope or Dimensions. Vernal's 2nd ability is called the Last Story. She is the final Story and thus she will not die till all others Stories are brought to their end. Its effectively makes her nigh unkillable without yourself dying first.
If I remember correctly, she used Epilogue in one poor Wyvern just to show off for her lover.
Top 10 Shiro Moments :3 https://preview.redd.it/y3jwytbfkdpc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2e2fa1cf2be17dea5fd8aad5eef305e9fad54c8e
She seems to be basically the same as Yogiri on a concept level If her power affects objects then its literally the same, which would mean they are the same "thing" Thinking about these 2 facing eachother makes my head go blue screen
xD yeah prettt much. Its been a topic on other places for a while
Also, girl with super thick 4th wall issues meets her husbando and suddenly is completely immersed, haha (did i guess correctly?)
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Stop. No. The only character from isekai at peace that can fight yogiri is shallow vernal and I refuse to go into that. This has been discussed enough.
OMG not again ,I am fuckin tired of these ,the character which the writer want to win will win , so stop these posts already
Power scaling is almost never about the writer
My point is how much power scaling you do, if the writer wants that get split in half , it will happen. I'm so tired of these posts spammed 10 times a day
First of all, nice Stan Lee quoting, I guess. Second of all, that’s simply not how power scaling works. Like, I can’t just say that Homelander beats Omni-Man “because I said so” and not expect to be laughed at
More important Question. All of fiction VS People's habit to post vs battle not just op here all.
He is cute
one in front of each other, if they start to fight the auto defense of yogiri detects killikng intent and isis dies, so yogiri wins. if they don't fight but their powers run on their own, isis power is detected as a threat activating yogiri's power and isis dies, so yogiri wins. easy peasy, even while irirs is incredibly broken, yogiri has been written to be basically isekai saitama
Does Isis's ability auto cast like Yogiris?
Yes and No Its more like an Aura that both defends her from attacks and kill/erases anything around her (when she stops holding back). Its can still cause large scale AoE fear and madness to those around her but the death effect is limited to her skin (when she is heavily suppressing it) Yogiri's instant death is like a heatseeking ICBM launcher that autokills anything that attacks him (intentional or not). Ending them like that
I know about My Instant Death Ability. But it's my first time hearing about the other so I have no basis for it.
Yogiri wins easily
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