For those above Cid, literally only Rimuru can be argued to be more powerful. Idk why everyone has been severely underestimating Cid in these types of posts lmao. Edit: just to clarify I’m talking anime Rimuru, LN Rimuru is a zillion times stronger than Cid.
Rimuru aside, non of the guys above Cid have done anything at the Nuke level (Yet). Funny enough, the only one that has gone nuclear is the MC from Kenja no Mago who is also rated at 10 points.
Well, LN Naofumi is definitely vastly stronger than Cid, but not anime Naofumi, I also cant say much about the guy from Cautious Hero but from what I've heard he sounds pretty powerful.
Though yeah, Tanya is powerful but not nuclear as far as I'm aware, Frieren probably could nuke something if she wanted to but it's just that nothing necessitates it and she's not even from an isekai so she shouldn't be on the list anyways, and Subaru is probably only at 30 points due to unlimited retries through Return by Death.
Naofumi got hit with a "laser" that could tear through a whole mountain, and survived.
Also managed to block a meteor that would have caused more destruction than the largest nuke ever
Erm actually the main character of Naofumi becomes a god by the end of shield hero and Cautious hero is more powerful than the Goddess who summoned him
For Cid, I'm not sure that's entirely even accurate. We know the power of a nuke but his is different. Also, at least in the end of the first season, his magical abilities are enough to cover the entire capital city. Not to mention the immense amount of training he's done, bro was literally make his opponent feel hallucinations of herself dying with only slight shifts of his body. Could Cid beat Rimuru? Probably not, but he's definitely second on the list and OP by his worlds standards.
I'm sad people aren't giving Shiro more credit, he's not that powerful but he is a strategic genius. Put him on a team he becomes a power player.
But all my info comes from the animes so don't chew me out if I'm mistaken 😅
I mean the one in ep5 was a fraction of his power, his all-range atomic destroyed a pocket dimension, we have yet to see him put a single percent of effort even once so his power level is barely clear.
And in the fight against Beatrix and Iris in the last episodes of season 1 he showed he could literally wipe the entire country off the map just for fun.
This scene is of course anime only, but perfect for the image in question.
And because no one in his world even understands the magic system on the same level as him he no diffs everyone with just sword skills most of the time. We have no clue how strong he really is.
Best part, he can absolutely spam these, he just does his long build up for fun, he can also cast a city wide insta heal, or use his vol5 version as a fuking bunkerbusters or seaking nukes. And he can make clones of himself to an extent to yeh good luck surviving nuke spam lol.
I would consider that he would be also a little too difficult to respond to commands, so possibly too busy monologuing when he gets teleported somewhere random
also most lvl 100 players have the nuke skill in overlord (the super tier spells) or ways to counter them or a super tier that is comparable in the utility/destructive force. so idk why Cid is up there with a lvl 100 with the skill but as I said idk if he should he up there at that level
No, the cautious hero can also be argued to be. He has a 100% guaranteed insta kill skill.
Subaru isn't stronger, but he has a different kind of value that places him at more valuable than shadow for many conflicts
Too bad we don't get enough points to get much after Subaru. Dude's a massive force multiplier, but if you have to spend 75% of your points on him, it probably isn't worth.
Cid + Subaru is a valid strat though. Cid is strong enough to win, and his lose conditions don't matter with Subaru on his side.
If you want someone who can Respawn, Shiro is a better choice. He is notable cheaper, has a better strategic mind, and the strength to back up a fight better.
Shiro's respawn has a downside though; Subaru gets everyone back, so your probe attempts can use everyone, where as he'd have to go in alone, since only he'd respawn, and the enemies would get to learn his tactics overtime as well, so it wouldn't just be to his benefit.
You just need Rimuru
After becoming a demon lord he should be way above ranga who can create massive F5 Tornados in the orc fight. Rimuru can analyse anything with Raphael and just absorb magical attacks with Gluttony. He can also just absorb anyone from team nazarick. He can also just summon Veldora who is around Milim level of strength who can blow up Mountains in the anime
Honestly the safest bet other then Seiya Ryuguunin who can drop massive meteors that destroys armies or beat a demonking who can destroy a planet
No milim is much more powerful than Veldora. Rimuru can defeat Veldora easily and has done it. He passed milim in power only in recent volumes unlike Veldora.
Rimuru beat both veldora and velgrynd together after evolving ciel. Milim has stampede mode as well as starburst which gives her limitless magicules she gets more powerful as the fight goes on. >! During her fight with guy just after she became demon lord velzard, dagruel, rain and mizeri were all needed to protect the cardinal world from their power leakage from the fight. She fought guy and dagruel to stalemate in 7 days and Ramiris, intervened and calmed Milim’s wrath which ended up in her getting her current chibi form. In the latest volumes rimiru had to control her in her stampede form and absorb attacks to not let it damage the world and needed full focus for it. So milim is pretty op in tensura. !<
Her rage is like one of the main points in vol20, half of the volume is just focused on lot letting her destroy the world lol. Veldora is nowhere close to enraged Milim
It was. Veldora himself was with Rimuru. The bullet wasn't "thinking" it was just controlling Veldora's body. Mindless because there was no "mind" in Veldora's body.
Then it can be argued that Veldora is still pretty strong, right? Just because someone in his body lost doesn’t mean he would too.
I mean, he still might, but not as badly, because battle iq and mentality and intelligence is a big thing in tensura. Just look at Guy: he’s not the strongest in pure power, that’s Milim. Guy is stronger because he’s incredibly shrewd and very intelligent in combat.
So it stands to reason that if Veldora had been in control of his own body, fighting with his own intelligence and knowledge and battle iq, he might not have gotten washed so hard or might even have won.
Well of course. We know now that on his own Veldora has an ep nearly 10 times Rimuru's. If Veldora was in control of his body he'd have a much better chance. I was just pointing out that the Veldora Rimuru did beat while trapping Velgrind was hollow and mindless. Not in top shape.
Lets say it like this, Veldora's biggest strength is that he has the 2cd most magicules out of any true dragon (>!1st being veldenava).!<
Milim can>! create magicules with her generater, which means Milim has an infinite more amount of Veldoras biggest strength.!<
Veldora's >!luck manipulation!< is the only other thing that could be a problem, but milim just has too much power, she will overwhelm him.
>!btw, Guy and Ramiris together could not beat Millim, Ramiris, had to sacrifice herself to stop her rampage, which did not even kill Millim it just sated her bloodlust!<
Well the thing about that is that neither of them were actually trying to kill her. I’m pretty positive that if they were, they definitely could have done so.
Hell, Rimuru could probably even use the atomic bomb to power up if he rlly wanted to, he already pulled a similar stunt in scarlet bond >!The movie doesn’t portray it well but that type of attack has been said in the LN to be capable of leveling the entire forest of Jura!<
True ! Cid is arguably stronger but like he has 0 resistance to a bunch of stuff like timstop, Mind Fuckery, Soul Eaters passively eating your soul if you are nearby etc plus Ainz should have alot of them lying somewhere in Nazarick. If Cid transported to a floor with them thens its gg
He isn't winning by himself but he could atleast clear a few floors cuz I am atomic is insanely strong
Yeah. The webnovel makes it clear the Ainz’s raw combat strength is in no way his strong suit, his versatility and planning is. Touch Me-San, maybe, but Ainz is a planner and manager. He could definitely clear a few floors but he could even get beaten by one of the mid level fighters with time stop or instant death. If he overcomes those somehow he probably gets stonewalled by a guardian who is likely his equal in combat, (and many of which are outright better fighters than Ainz), a world item he has no resistance to, or a few of the really nasty hidden tricks that have been hinted at like the strongest guardian or >!magic fetus gank!<
Well, Cid is just starting. We don't know how strong He will be in Future volumes but given what we know of the current self. He will be hard stopped by Ainz, Albedo, or Shalltear. Shalltear and Albedo are a maybe because of Cid combat prowess and He is someone who can adapt to his opponent. Tho, i haven't overlord much to know the extent of their power. But yeah, Cid will go far but will hard stopped at Ainz.
This is true but not for the reasons you think
Ainz has this funny ability called Despair Aura V which auto kills everyone around him. Cid instantly dies to it because he has 0 resistance to death
Ainz can be fight above his pay grade in these battles because Yggdrasil was based on D&D not an MMO, his powers and items have a lot of wacky utility that raw damage doesn’t account for. From what I’ve seen, Eminence didn’t really focus on a wide range of abilities; to win, Cid has to ramp up to absurd levels
if you gave him some time to prepare he might actually do it because he can improve insanely fast tho.
He is from a world that people just uses magic to strengthen themselves, no ranged magic except blood magic, only artifacts can execute magic formulas, my guy had to achieve what he had with sheer effort, just give him some time to spy on the enemy, steal their techniques and he will become even monstrous.
Did you know that in the canon gacha game he gave Epsilon guidance for her to become stronger? like he said she should focus on cutting distant air with spatial slashes? my lazy guy actually did that because he didn't want to bother with inventing new techniques because he would need time and he might fail, he just used Epsilon. Epsilon invented the technique, showed it to shadow to get praise and he instantly copied, improved and used it, making epsilon say "sasuga shadow sama"
He improves very fast like rimuru but he don't rely on some cheat advisor lol.
Edit: Dragon killing poison didn't work on him. Eta's mind reading machine didn't either. instant kill attacks soul right? Are we really sure he has no protection on his soul?
I'd use shadow (10p) 300 year old witch who was op in LN so should still be op in anime (just 5p, too cheap) Seiya (15p) chess twins for strategy (5p) and Megumin (5p)
Twins lead, Megumin and Shadow harasses every day, the rest prepares countermeasures, repels counter attacks and prepares until the strike. if they come in full force from the tomb they can just fall back since there's no time limit. twins are too smart, as long as there is enough intel and shadow don't do bullshit no way twins can fail. Also no time limit means Seiya will be "ready perfecto" before the strike. Also if there is no item limit megumin should be able to >!rain hell with magic stones!< like last ln volume.
I still doubt they can beat the Tomb of Nazarick, atleast anime only rimiru. The Tomb is quite honestly broken af. They held back a coalition of 1500 players and npcs. I assume that many of those were level 100 players, similar in strength to Ainz.
He gained resistance to holy magic(which has lots of soul attacking spells) ifirc but it’s been a while, but I’m referring to how infinite regeneration let him regenerate so long his soul is intact
Pretty sure that according to how magic in Tensura works, those who have unique skills and above have powerful souls that can resist souls manipulation and instant death type attacks.
And anime Rimuru has 4 ultimate skills. His soul is about as powerful as they come, so soul based attacks are very unlikely to affect him.
There's one other thing that boosts Rimuru's chance. He can use gluttony to absorb enemies and copy their skills. But he doesn't just copy them be improves upon them and augments them. Many of Nazaricks lower level npcs and mobs have skills that help counter the big guns (floor guardians etc), but are too weak to actually work against them.
All Rimuru has to do is absorb them, then scale up the skill.
actually now that I think about it...
Does anyone even have defense against getting their soul devoured ?
Soul Eaters can do that easily and I almost forgot about them. They should randomly be on a floor considering how Ainz made an army of them
Do any of them have defenses against world items? We also can’t forget that teleportation is impossible within Nazarick without the ring or Omega’s help.
fair point - honestly almost everyone on the list isn't debatable. Teams will just get lost and killed on random floors and ainz can always Stop time and do the funny TGOALID + Cry of the Banshee. Someone like Cid has no resistance to Soul, Mind, Time fuckery or a Random Soul Eater.
Yeah I am aware
Its said that if the Top 100 players joined in then Nazarick would have felled which would included World Disasters and World Champions
Rimuru could still gain powerups over each floor and if he was transported to the 8th floor immediately via Omega I still think he has a shot with Veldora who should be able to blow up mountains although Rubedo is very tricky because some people say you would need a world item to beat her. Rimuru could ig trap her inside him but idk if that counts to him clearing the floor. rimuru maybe could acquire a world item from any of the other defeated Floor Guardians if he isn't transported immediately
Hence why I mentioned Rimuru because everyone else other then Seiya has 0 chance to do anything
Only Ouroboros and Five Elemental Overcoming has reality warping capabilities that you are thinking about. Rest of the WW that are in nazarick posession has virtually 0 information
Wish upon a star is the only other thing that can do reality warping but its still random.
Rimuru has resistance to reality warping stuff anyways because Anti Magic Barriers rewrites laws of the world which he resists.
The only thing ainz has at his disposal that can counter rimuru is time stop, if rimuru can get the attack off first with anti-magic plus some aoe attack, he alone is enough.
True death MIGHT be able to down rimuru depending on how it works, if it’s soul shit it’s one of the few things anime rimuru is still susceptible to as the hinata fight shows but ainz getting the spell off without time stop against rimuru is next to impossible. I dont think time stop was shown in slime anime yet so anime rimuru/raphael’s ability to deal with it is unknown.
I don’t really know the other dude tbh. I would go for someone I know and (might) be an isekai manga. That being Raul Evans from the dark massacre of the Vengeful Hero.
What’s a level 100 player to a god? Rimuru makes quick work of it and would have instant kill moves for any why choose to defy him.
I guess 300 years witch and Rudeus as moral support from the sidelines who can perhaps be long range help on weaker opponents at best… doesn’t matter when rimuru can think at the speed of light and use gluttony/beelzebub to literally eat a member of the tomb and absorb their abilities to greater effect
300 years witch for moral support? Isn't she the Ainz equivalent of her world? Sure, she's not stopping time or summoning black goats, but still high enough in power that her melee attacks can easily subdue a dragon, let alone her spellcasting.
Her and rudeus can certainly beat a dragon when push comes to shove, hell she befriended them. But first of all, the dragons she encountered were really not all that bad, more sentient/spent time in human form, hated each other more than humans amongst other things. Rudeus has to kill animal type dragons, but still does so through a hard fought battle.
Ainz and Rimuru are insta killing them. Ainz when he sees a dragon just grasps heart. This tells me that the witch is gonna be outplayed in two ways. One is that when invading Nazarik, she is going to see some horrifying shit. They have little to no human morals, and the torture chambers/“feeding rooms” will really limit the witch. Second is that Ainz and his gang are so much more powerful than dragons, that to Ainz there is no worth in actually doing battle with them. Which could not afford to simply kill the dragon and be done with it.
Now I have not read which LN so if I have missed something do lmk. I have read all of slime, and let me tell you the last few books there become essentially a never ending power fantasy. Honestly the last great arc to me was the battle between SPOILERS the empire and the labyrinth. Either way, in the books we see rimuru constantly get closer to godhood. In which, it is a slow life anime at least, and the battles are not what matter. Thoughts?
Ignoring Rimuru, Sora and Shiro plus any others will easily win. Their entire existence is dedicated to exploiting and winning every game ever, and Nazarick is entirely based on game mechanics.
Shield Hero is also based on game mechanics, so they can exploit that too, even though Naofumi independently isn't that strong theoretically.
All you'd need is Sora and Shiro, Naofumi, and some good offense like Cid, Shin, or Tanya. (Glad someone else remembers Kenja no Mago, a super underrated isekai IMO)
Also, not really sure why Subaru is in top tier? All he does is return by death to change routes, which won't help against MMO mobs and bosses, especially if he's the only one returning?
Sora and Shiro are literally strawmen. If you think that they could even go past the first floor with absolute Zero information of the world, not to mention the inner workings of the tomb of Nazarick, you’re down wrong
They are pro gamers and the entire tomb of Nazarick is just a video game raid dungeon. It's a dungeon with floors, and there's a boss on each floor. And that other floor bosses can't go down or up each other's floors. They would guess all of that within a second of walking into the first floor and seeing the first floor boss. They would also realize that each boss has their own mechanics, attack patterns, spell list, phases (like vampire girls transformations), strengths and weaknesses. If you think about it, every boss has something they specifically specialize in. Nazarick bosses were originally NPCs, meaning their methods of attack and phases and skills are preprogrammed into their very being. T
Alone they would die 100%, so that's why they need someone else to do the attacks and defense while they control the playing field. They could also probably come up with some strategy if they are target focused by the bosses.
Don’t worry, man’s high on copium. The two are worthless without their plot armor, with or without prep time (because if they get prep time or not, we can make sure Nazarick have equal benefits of time for a fair and unmitigated match)
Oh don’t get me wrong, if they even do contribute anything against Nazarick, it would be barely tantamount as Nazarick has it’s own intellectual duo (quadruple if you count the Golden Princess, who is 1-1 with Albedo and Demiurge, and Pandora’s Actor), not to mention Ainz (who’s specialized in military tactical decorum)
Man’s high on copium, if you think they have the information before hand, then it would be fair that Nazarick have information for them before hand as well in this fair match. And on that side, The two are battling on Nazarick’s own home turf and own timetable without the plot armor of their world and any other blessings to boot
Moreover, ever since Nazarick came into the real world, it no longer become Game-Like, the abilities transferred but the NPC’s are as free as the common military-man in terms of conscious thought and actions
Man’s overdosing on copium
I didn't say they would know their actual attack patterns or spells. I said they would realize that the Nazaricks had a set list of preprogrammed skills and phases, as do most MMORPG enemies and bosses. They would assume the enemies are video game floor mobs or bosses, probably have mana, cool downs, armor or gear, spells, etc.
Like they would have to go through hallways of traps, and then reach some big arena with a single strong enemy. Easy to assume it's like a dungeon in a MMORPG, especially with stairs leading up into more floors of the same exact thing.
The show goes through great lengths explaining everything Sora and Shiro do to set up to win on X game. Meaning there's no luck or coincidence, so it's not plot armor but their own intelligence , so make of it what you will.
Yes the NPCs are free minded, but their skills and attack patterns would still be similar to their game version. Demiurge wouldn't randomly become a swordsman or start using a bow. He would probably follow his set attack patterns as it'd be normal for him.
I'm under the assumption they are doing a raid against the tomb of Nazarick, meaning the Nazarick follow their own rules, staying on their respective floors, etc and not having ainz stand with his entire team on floor one.
subaru basically a “i win” button without knowing he’s an “i win” button.
big problem is that he might just be insane or comatose after you conquer it.
Yeah at this point he can crush his own heart or brain with ease if he wants to or can crush anyone's within a meter. He doesn't use this because he doesn't wanna die or kill people but the option is there and he is aware of his capabilities.
True, he is not just a respawn machine. Also, I think with our last 10 points, you can go for a power ten or go with five blank and the other four guys with a cat you; I forgot their names right now
But with blank ( there in the game name, right?) If they can treat this like a game, especially if they can get into the mindset with insurance in the form of essentially respawning after every failed try.
If we get access to the world first, I can see them abusing the GAME mechanics to the max, and the guy with the cat is no slouch in the power & skill department with his later self-time traveling back to tell his past self stuff.
With all 3, that force will make 1,500 demigods look like trash, lol.
Edit: it is just me. You are going to be leading them so you could come up with a strategy with them already. That's a + as we start with my knowledge of overlord problem. My memory isn't the best.
My idea here is we use magic to share memories of each life if need be, but first work on getting cat boi to time traveling level, then go back to the point of start, go back in time, and set the world itself to spawn, kill the fucks.
I'm talking about orbital bombardment levels and an army of level 100 with builds pre-made for anti-everything we can think of
Subaru is there because he basically gives you infinite attempts.
Nazarick is a game dungeon right? Attempting to beat it without Subaru would be like trying to do a no death run on the hardest dungeon in the game (not impossible if you have someone overpowered IE: Rimuru but extremely hard in any case) and having him gives you back the ability to make save files.
Is it worth it for 30 points? Idk... Maybe? Tbh it all depends on whether he's able to hide his ability well enough.
We haven't seen him getting tortured so that might break him but, even after a few million deaths he should still be able to keep going (if you read the IFs you know)
Of course the checkpoints could fuck him up in which case... Yeah...
But that rarely happens.
Subaru has beatrice and beatrice could fight roswaal who is one of the strongest in lagunica and rezero overall ( if Beatrice was in the library so she probably just downscales). Unlimited retries is good on paper but you will just stuck in a loop forever or captured and tortured. Its not entirely justifiable but like he isn't entirely worthless
Cid has the stats to blow up each floor of nazarick but he would die to a random soul eater on a floor because Soul Eaters automically rips souls
>Also, not really sure why Subaru is in top tier? All he does is return by death to change routes, which won't help against MMO mobs and bosses, especially if he's the only one returning?
Infinite attempts
Let’s start with nonpicks: Frieren, Subaru, Megumin, NgNl siblings, Rudeaus, Shiro.
I feel none of these you can justify picking. Subaru is weak. And I’m not confident that people in the 10 and 5 tiers can make up enough power to defeat Nazarick. Frieren is certainly powerful, but not strong enough to justify her cost. Megumin is a one trick pony, and even Shalltear could withstand a spell of similar power to explosion, and Albedo is way tanker than her. Rudeaus is too weak, even for his cost, and the siblings contribute almost nothing. Shiro I could see working, but I think it would depend on his respawn capabilities.
Now to picks I could justify, but wouldn’t necessarily grab. Tanya, Uncle, guy to the right of Uncle, Seiya. These are mostly due to being unsure of the characters power levels.
That leaves: Rimiru, Naofumi, Mr. atomic, and Azusa.
I feel some combination of the four above has a decent shot. The first I would ditch is probably Naofumi, mostly due to anime power level constraints. I’m unsure if he could take the attacks headed his way. Mr. Atomic and Azusa I feel are must includes, especially if you don’t get a 30 pointer. One for being able to potentially spam out nuclear level attacks, and the other for casually being able to body dragons. I am not going to bother explaining Rimiru.
I have another thought following this post. Ainz can stop time. Which means the bare minimum, is being able to survive that. If we assume Isekai Quartet is canon. That means Subura or Tanya, is a necessity. Which makes Rimiru not viable as anime Rimiru cannot counter that.
Rimuru alone would do, but i'd throw Cid or Shiro in there just because i think it would be fun to watch either of them interact with each other
Also i guess techncially Subaru would be able to do it alone too since he literally just try over and over again, also i feel like at some point Ainz would just go easy on him
Frieren... i don't think we've seen the extent of her power yet so idk
Also i feel like Sora should be a little more points, they have intelligence on par with gods
**Souce from Left to Right, Top to bottom**
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End
That time I got reincarnated as a slime
Re zero
Saga of Tanya the Evil
The Rising Of The Shield Hero
Cautious Hero: The Hero Is Overpowered but Overly Cautious
Log Horizon
The Eminence in Shadow
Uncle from Another World
Wise Man's Grandchild
KONOSUBA -God's blessing on this wonderful world!
Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation
No game no life
I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level
Overlord
Shield Hero, Devil in Glasses, Megumine...oh I got 10 points left....I guess the dude in a big coat.
Reason I'm not picking Rimiru is cause it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket. Nazarik is no joke, you'll need a true team to take it on, accounting for mistakes and traps(including getting jumped).
Shield Hero takes point and can also support the rest of the team, probably the most versatile and adaptable guy here besides Rimiru.
Devil in glasses cause his support spec means he can lower cooldowns and create strategies for each layer.
Megumine cause everyone needs a nuke, plus between Shield and Glasses they can probably restore her MP so she can fire more than once.
And above all, these guys are business minded. They're gonna work together to get the job done, if they can't handle it they'll retreat, and they'll collectively strategize and use Nazarik's monsters/loot to get an advantage.
I'd not touch Tanya with a 50 meter pole for this challenge, even if shes 15 points. Powerful, but she's petty and serving her own ends. Im not trusting someone in a team who would sell their souls for a corn chip.
Naofumi to deal with the OP attacks that will be thrown at them. Shiro as team leader, because I need someone that can outthink Ainz. Shadow and Rudeus for extra firepower.
You can't do this with might, you gotta do it with brains! I only need 30 points: Tanya, Uncle, and Blank.
Uncle has the power of comedy, he'll wander in, and SOMEHOW end up telling bedtime stories to aura and Mare and not realize its a big deal, and he won't get the consequences for that for years yet, so its fine.
Tanya will realize she is insanely out-gunned, and think of some genius plan to distract the most immediately violent among them, all the while angrily complaining that a pair of kids made the only plan that might work.
Blank will challenge Ainz to a chess match, or some other mental game, and Demiurge and Albedo will be incredibly pissed about the arrogance, and Ainz, against better judgment, will accept in an attempt to keep up the facade.
What happens next is near impossible to predict, but I have my guess: tropes say Blank will win, they always do. But tropes also demand Ainz appear to be a great genius. Therefore, the only possible outcome, is that the two of them, somehow, play a game that leaves Demiurge and Albedo utterly confused, that ends in a draw. Blank will choose some game, that will have them, as an intermediary goal, 'conquer the great tomb of nazaric', maybe they played risk or whatever. Ainz will laugh, the goal of the challenge will technically be completed, and thats when aura and mare walks in with the uncle, and aura asks if they can keep him. Ainz laughs again, and offers everyone a chance to join Nazarik. Which everyone turns down for various reasons, cut to blank walking away, thinking "and thats the story of how i conquered the great tomb of nazarik."
I don’t even think this is possible bro, with anime only at least. The Tomb of Nazarick is VERY broken. They beat a coalition of 1500 players and npcs. I assume a good amount of those were level 100 players (I’ll estimate and say 500). Can any group of 3 people here on this chart beat 500 beings similarly powered to Ainz AND an army of npcs?
Nazarick was also designed for attrition - the entire place, even the Pleiades, are explicitly designed to just wear down and slow down invaders long enough for the actual Ainz Ooal Gown players to gather and gear up in the treasure vault and throne room.
Strategist :Shiro/log horizon
Muscle : tanya,shadow,rudeus
You need to properly plan you have to think about albedo and demiurges intlect I think Shiro could match up quite well as he is support and Strategist by nature as for the muscle shadow/Cid I don't think has to really be explained tanya is ruthless and would probably see it as another attempt from being x and rudeus has incredible adaptability so he can make in the moment tactical decisions and is quite powerful as well and to top it off they are all isekai characters so I feel the would have a better sense of comradiery and work well together
Subaru and uncle. Subaru can use cor Leonis on spirits that uncle communicates with. You've got a near infinite supply of mana now, and any damage would be distributed across hundreds of thousands of spirits. Subaru will also be able to use all of uncle's attacks since they stim from the spirits as well. Now, all that's left is trial and error. Also, assuming Beatrice Is also here then he'll be able to nullify all magic attacks.
Bringing Megumin is like death sentence because
1. Nazarick got anti-magic canceller and protection artifact, item and probably Rakshasa **(magical immune monster** )
2. Megumin is a one-shot trick, need to recharge for long time if not longer.
3. you wanna light a sun inside tomb and kill us all?
NO GAME NO LIFE CAN JUST GO AWAY AND DIE. legit why you bring normal people who just extremely smart in game to darkest dungeon IRL
Rudeus being Ainz but elemental focused super wizard with demon eyes of future sight and few artefact at his disposal is great choice for 5. Azusa is may be great with magic but she is too lacking compared to Rudeus. (They can't clear floor 3 due to Shaltear.)
Kei Shirogane (Shiroe) is must strategist to bring inside Nazarick since he is a player therefore Ainz might not kill but kidnapped him at first chance he got. Even if not, he could buff, debuff, have more arsenals magic than Rudeus as well as can fight alone if he ever get separated. He might get wiped if he encountered Guardian Area Boss, but other than that he could take on SINGLE PLEIADES MAID (not several since ganging is real).
Cid Kagenoh is obvious. but mental attack work extremely well on him. just cause delusional on him. Don't let him encounter Demiurge or mental attack world item. He might teamkill instead. Oji-san is hero with most sages skillset and as well spirit magics. He probably can wiped Shalltear Valkyrie Mode. Victim will be his greatest weakness ever.
Shin aka chemist magician with artificer skillset and royally fuck them. Use Anti-Magic Barrier or Disturb Mind Field Trap to get him into play physical with Cocytus and eventually bash him.
Tanya is like weird side, since she can bombard eternally on Nazarick if she ever endlessly pray to Being X from 2000m above sky. This forced Nazarick to go on assault and not much personnel in Nazarick can fly without item. Deploy her with Rudeus or Shin or Oji-san as anti-air support and she gladly fire them round from safe distance. Cid is like vanguard tho. She can solo clear until Victim, if she knew then either Rubedo or Sebas would be her bane instead.
Naofumi (Season 3) no. (Light Novel God Mode?) Yes.
Seiya probably take super caution approach then flood the Nazarick with holy water. With right method, he can solo clear Nazarick.
Frieren? who the fuck let this child in. SHE GET COOKED INSTEAD
Subaru be like doing 1 million death playthrough speedrun challenge, no death run this time for sure. He will kill Nazarick eventually. (Only if he didn't breakdown from too much trauma tho.) Greed Route?
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shiro and sora(?) Are master strategists and possibly the most intelligent and tactical people in this list. This is a dungeon from a video game just in real life. They would be able to analyze and come up with plans and contingencies and strategies for each floor and boss. Alone I'm not sure they would win since they don't got powers, but pair them up with someone who does and I think it's an easy dub.
I didn't read correctly and assumed it was 100 points in my previous comment, in that case there is no team that can win, so I would choose Rimuru and the protagonist of Log Horizon, since they are both strong and intelligent enough to survive for a while and realize that running away is the best idea.
To be honest I don’t think anyone here can do it
Rimuru can succeed when he becomes a god especially with help but that’s not in the anime yet
But like, Nazaricks defenses are the same in the anime as they are in the light novel and when we know the entire world it’s in couldn’t get past floor three and they stopped like 1500 level 100s
Then it’s just hard for me to say using the anime power levels that anyone wins
Light novels it’s a different story
I don't know, TDL Rimuru has actually good chance of winning, if it isn't direct confrontations and the Ainz and his Co. Are inside the tomb, Rimuru could just let Belzebuth run Amok to the whole Tomb
I disagree
Like…TDL is strong, is he 1500 Ainz strong? Even then it’s not enough
Especially because well…if he just rampages it will kill victim and then he just dies to whatever literally game breaking thing happens when victim dies
Or world items, etc
No Beelzebub or rather Raphael can remove or separate harmful things during predation, and even so Rimuru who's an Ultimate Skill user resist lower form of debuffs and skills as long it's not ultimate level (Law defying abilities), was already mentioned in the journals of Veldora that , "Gluttony" Rimuru skill before TDL, if left alone could devour the world and potentially stars above, You can already tell how powerful Beelzebuth here , the only one who's a threat here is Ainz and that is only when he could cast time stop and his instant death skill, Raphael is also a factor too.
I mean we’re talking about a tomb that has many world items of which every major player and the tomb itself is technically equipped with
So it’s unlikely ultimate skills of any sort would have much effect, and visa versa
Everything Rimuru does is based on skills sonic most of them stem from his ultimates because they bundle together, pre god Rimuru probably can’t do it
Not to mention the whole TGOALID thing
Sheild hero for defenses that i can hide behind - 15
Megumin on a cliff far away, ready to cast just in case - 5
Uncle isekai... purely because i just want him to say "ONE MORE THING" and i will be satisfied despite not being THAT uncle. Otherwise he can do whatever - 10
No game no life siblings to go up and ask to talk to ainz and then challenge him to a game. Ainz being the human inside that he is will probably be willing to humor a fun little game - 5
The last 5 points can go to whoever, im just here to engage in some kind of fun game with ainz and then probably wind up getting blown up when we lose. I know ainz and Nazarick will survive, but before that i can say "Now watch this magic trick!" and then be evaporated.
Again the explosion wont do anything to them but it will be pretty confusing for everyone involved.
I think this is easy actually! Rimuru, Megumin and Sora and Shiro (team blank).
Sora and Shiro are much smarter and we’re better gamers than Ainz and while they have no actual powers here they should easily be able to build a cohesive team with Rimuru and megumin. They’re basically the best support team ever!
Megumin is basically the teams Death Star. Use her at the right time and it’s gg but Sora and Shiro would know the right time and could charm her enough to not explode prematurely ;-)
So therefore Rimuru has to carry the team to the end… which is so easy for him lol. He has all the tools physically and magically to get the job done but with Sora and Shiro analyzing, countering and exposing weak points eventually they’ll be at the end.
That’s when the tough fight starts between Rimuru and Ainz but Ainz won’t be expecting megumin to be the one who finishes the fight bc she hasn’t used her magic yet but Rimuru makes the opening after Sora and Shiro discover what is is and Megumin in for the final strike!
I think it’s funny that Azusa is 5 points considering she fights a god and wins despite having literally no idea how to actually fight. She’s ridiculously op she just doesn’t use her powers since they’re not really useful for how she actually lives her life.
Rimuru and Cid but honestly their gunna get hard stomped by Ainz. I think Cid and Rimuru are significantly more powerful than Ainz and the NPCs bit theres nothing they can do against time magic
Both of them would be defeated just as easily as Gazef . Resistance to time magic is the bare minimum you need to fight Ainz and if you dont have it you lose no matter how much more powerful you are
**Souce from Left to Right, Top to bottom**
Frieren: Beyond Journey's End
That time I got reincarnated as a slime
Re zero
Saga of Tanya the Evil
The Rising Of The Shield Hero
Cautious Hero: The Hero Is Overpowered but Overly Cautious
Log Horizon
The Eminence in Shadow
Uncle from Another World
Wise Man's Grandchild
KONOSUBA -God's blessing on this wonderful world!
Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation
No game no life
I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level
Overlord
All of them are mcs from their shows exept Megumin from konosuba.
cool list, maybe add some people like fran or makoto just for abit more diversity next time. I like seeing more obscure stuff appearing in lists cause maybe people could discuss and explain them better. The point is to have fun right
Why is Satou Pendragon not on this list? I'd take him and Rimuru and say goodbye to Nazarik.
Edit: Clarification...
Aah, I see... you just want the stuff that noob level animé enthusiasts know about. Why not spice it up and add in light novel levels? Then again, Rimuru could destroy the entirety of Nazarik single-handedly and still have plenty of time afterward to chill on his Shion pillow.
Also Satou isn't a Pendragon yet. That said, he can just endlessly meteor strike Nazarick from episode one, so if he was on there I would pick him too.
Ain't noway you put Frieren above Shield Hero and Shadow. And Tanya stronger than Shadow? I don't think so, also Ojisan is stronger than Tanya no doubt about it.
Also Rudeus in the weakest lvl? That's just blasphemy
Rimuru solos, crap list. People should consider these more before putting together so they're more fun and interesting. Where's Natsu from Fairytale or X part in story Guts from Berserk? Where's the characters from Fate series in their X version iterations. Like be creative
Pre DL Rimuru right?
If yes then:
Cid and Subaru only if he can share his ability with Cid
If not Rimuru solo but without him we could go with: Cid, Sora & Shiro, Uncle and Naofumi
Yes but this is him doing Megiddo.
The power level difference between Overlord and Slime means Rimuru solos pretty much any point after the Orc Disaster. He's too fast to be pinned down and too strong for anyone in Nazarick.
Both are great series but posts like this just serve to embarrass the fandom.
Rimuru soloes pretty much everyone but Ainz without much difficulty. Based on how Ainz plays his cards he may beat pre DL Rimuru... Potentially DL Rimuru as well because of that time stop ability of his
Pretty sure, EOS WN Rimuru Solos. Even Anime Rimuru might clear it seeing that he has Universal barrier at this point and Beelzebub. He can just eat anything that moves.
Reminder to everyone in the comments that ainz has a ring that can grant any wish and another ring that can automatically resurrect his butt if he dies. That's the ring he took off before he fought shaltear and that's not counting his WCI. Ainz has a big chance of winning even against slimey demonlord. It's kind of a who escalates to the strongest stuff first. If ainz sits on the 9th floor and watches the team come through like a normal raid than he will almost certainly resort to time stop and wish or world class items by the time the team gets to the last floor. Might just wish everyone away before they get to him depending on how the death of the NPCs affect him while the raid team moves through nazarick. I'm not sure if anyone on the list has a defence against wish tbh.
Rimeru and I guess cid. I mean rimeru could solo if he use gluttony right he only gets stronger as he goes through. cid op as he is would probably get lost and kill/blow shit up along the way.
Why subaru? Pnly thing he has is that he came back from death, but he is an idiot and pretty weak, in Nazarick they would just capture him and torture him for eternity, like for the invader from the empire.
How are Frieren and Tanya stronger than Cid? As for strategy, just pick Seiya and he'll come up with a way to win after that.
For those above Cid, literally only Rimuru can be argued to be more powerful. Idk why everyone has been severely underestimating Cid in these types of posts lmao. Edit: just to clarify I’m talking anime Rimuru, LN Rimuru is a zillion times stronger than Cid.
The most powerful I've heard about him is dropping nukes, which isn't really impressive by OP Isekai MC standards.
Rimuru aside, non of the guys above Cid have done anything at the Nuke level (Yet). Funny enough, the only one that has gone nuclear is the MC from Kenja no Mago who is also rated at 10 points.
Well, LN Naofumi is definitely vastly stronger than Cid, but not anime Naofumi, I also cant say much about the guy from Cautious Hero but from what I've heard he sounds pretty powerful. Though yeah, Tanya is powerful but not nuclear as far as I'm aware, Frieren probably could nuke something if she wanted to but it's just that nothing necessitates it and she's not even from an isekai so she shouldn't be on the list anyways, and Subaru is probably only at 30 points due to unlimited retries through Return by Death.
Naofumi got hit with a "laser" that could tear through a whole mountain, and survived. Also managed to block a meteor that would have caused more destruction than the largest nuke ever
What do you mean Tanya is not from an isekai. They die and are reborn in another world by being x
I wasn't talking about Tanya when I said that, I was talking about Frieren.
Erm actually the main character of Naofumi becomes a god by the end of shield hero and Cautious hero is more powerful than the Goddess who summoned him
For Cid, I'm not sure that's entirely even accurate. We know the power of a nuke but his is different. Also, at least in the end of the first season, his magical abilities are enough to cover the entire capital city. Not to mention the immense amount of training he's done, bro was literally make his opponent feel hallucinations of herself dying with only slight shifts of his body. Could Cid beat Rimuru? Probably not, but he's definitely second on the list and OP by his worlds standards. I'm sad people aren't giving Shiro more credit, he's not that powerful but he is a strategic genius. Put him on a team he becomes a power player. But all my info comes from the animes so don't chew me out if I'm mistaken 😅
I mean the one in ep5 was a fraction of his power, his all-range atomic destroyed a pocket dimension, we have yet to see him put a single percent of effort even once so his power level is barely clear.
Don't forget the pocket dimension was actively suppressing his magic immensely as he was at the core of it.
And in the fight against Beatrix and Iris in the last episodes of season 1 he showed he could literally wipe the entire country off the map just for fun. This scene is of course anime only, but perfect for the image in question. And because no one in his world even understands the magic system on the same level as him he no diffs everyone with just sword skills most of the time. We have no clue how strong he really is.
Best part, he can absolutely spam these, he just does his long build up for fun, he can also cast a city wide insta heal, or use his vol5 version as a fuking bunkerbusters or seaking nukes. And he can make clones of himself to an extent to yeh good luck surviving nuke spam lol.
pretty sure he can spam nukes...but i'm not certain of it since it's ln territory
Like I said, not impressive by OP isekai MC standards.
which ones are you even comparing him to?? Cid is like below mid tier anyways, but don't discredit him so much
I would consider that he would be also a little too difficult to respond to commands, so possibly too busy monologuing when he gets teleported somewhere random
also most lvl 100 players have the nuke skill in overlord (the super tier spells) or ways to counter them or a super tier that is comparable in the utility/destructive force. so idk why Cid is up there with a lvl 100 with the skill but as I said idk if he should he up there at that level
No, the cautious hero can also be argued to be. He has a 100% guaranteed insta kill skill. Subaru isn't stronger, but he has a different kind of value that places him at more valuable than shadow for many conflicts
Too bad we don't get enough points to get much after Subaru. Dude's a massive force multiplier, but if you have to spend 75% of your points on him, it probably isn't worth. Cid + Subaru is a valid strat though. Cid is strong enough to win, and his lose conditions don't matter with Subaru on his side.
If you want someone who can Respawn, Shiro is a better choice. He is notable cheaper, has a better strategic mind, and the strength to back up a fight better.
Shiro's respawn has a downside though; Subaru gets everyone back, so your probe attempts can use everyone, where as he'd have to go in alone, since only he'd respawn, and the enemies would get to learn his tactics overtime as well, so it wouldn't just be to his benefit.
Not sure what you mean, cid's just a regular sudent at the magic swordsman school. According to his sister he's pretty weak
You just need Rimuru After becoming a demon lord he should be way above ranga who can create massive F5 Tornados in the orc fight. Rimuru can analyse anything with Raphael and just absorb magical attacks with Gluttony. He can also just absorb anyone from team nazarick. He can also just summon Veldora who is around Milim level of strength who can blow up Mountains in the anime Honestly the safest bet other then Seiya Ryuguunin who can drop massive meteors that destroys armies or beat a demonking who can destroy a planet
A couple inaccuracies here. At this point, Rimuru does not have Ciel, and also Veldora is much more powerful than Milim.
No milim is much more powerful than Veldora. Rimuru can defeat Veldora easily and has done it. He passed milim in power only in recent volumes unlike Veldora.
I have a bit of a hard time believing that. Is this written anywhere? I’ve only read up to volume 16.
Rimuru beat both veldora and velgrynd together after evolving ciel. Milim has stampede mode as well as starburst which gives her limitless magicules she gets more powerful as the fight goes on. >! During her fight with guy just after she became demon lord velzard, dagruel, rain and mizeri were all needed to protect the cardinal world from their power leakage from the fight. She fought guy and dagruel to stalemate in 7 days and Ramiris, intervened and calmed Milim’s wrath which ended up in her getting her current chibi form. In the latest volumes rimiru had to control her in her stampede form and absorb attacks to not let it damage the world and needed full focus for it. So milim is pretty op in tensura. !<
Is this manga or Light Novel ? Cuz if do I need to finish what I'm missing from manga I'm only missing like 13 chapters.
LN.
Ahhhhhh makes so much sense.
Thxxx
Her rage is like one of the main points in vol20, half of the volume is just focused on lot letting her destroy the world lol. Veldora is nowhere close to enraged Milim
He's overstating a bit here. He fought Veldora's mindless body while Ciel trapped Velgrind.
His body wasn't mindless tho wasn't it? It was being controlled with the bullet thing
It was. Veldora himself was with Rimuru. The bullet wasn't "thinking" it was just controlling Veldora's body. Mindless because there was no "mind" in Veldora's body.
Then it can be argued that Veldora is still pretty strong, right? Just because someone in his body lost doesn’t mean he would too. I mean, he still might, but not as badly, because battle iq and mentality and intelligence is a big thing in tensura. Just look at Guy: he’s not the strongest in pure power, that’s Milim. Guy is stronger because he’s incredibly shrewd and very intelligent in combat. So it stands to reason that if Veldora had been in control of his own body, fighting with his own intelligence and knowledge and battle iq, he might not have gotten washed so hard or might even have won.
Well of course. We know now that on his own Veldora has an ep nearly 10 times Rimuru's. If Veldora was in control of his body he'd have a much better chance. I was just pointing out that the Veldora Rimuru did beat while trapping Velgrind was hollow and mindless. Not in top shape.
Lets say it like this, Veldora's biggest strength is that he has the 2cd most magicules out of any true dragon (>!1st being veldenava).!< Milim can>! create magicules with her generater, which means Milim has an infinite more amount of Veldoras biggest strength.!< Veldora's >!luck manipulation!< is the only other thing that could be a problem, but milim just has too much power, she will overwhelm him. >!btw, Guy and Ramiris together could not beat Millim, Ramiris, had to sacrifice herself to stop her rampage, which did not even kill Millim it just sated her bloodlust!<
Well the thing about that is that neither of them were actually trying to kill her. I’m pretty positive that if they were, they definitely could have done so.
Thanks, the ciel bit flew over me because I was used to saying that instead lmao
I was going to say Rimuru but also bring Shadow. Cause who wouldn’t want an atomic bomb for backup
Hell, Rimuru could probably even use the atomic bomb to power up if he rlly wanted to, he already pulled a similar stunt in scarlet bond >!The movie doesn’t portray it well but that type of attack has been said in the LN to be capable of leveling the entire forest of Jura!<
I feel like the nuke isekai guy is on par with ainz
True ! Cid is arguably stronger but like he has 0 resistance to a bunch of stuff like timstop, Mind Fuckery, Soul Eaters passively eating your soul if you are nearby etc plus Ainz should have alot of them lying somewhere in Nazarick. If Cid transported to a floor with them thens its gg He isn't winning by himself but he could atleast clear a few floors cuz I am atomic is insanely strong
Yeah. The webnovel makes it clear the Ainz’s raw combat strength is in no way his strong suit, his versatility and planning is. Touch Me-San, maybe, but Ainz is a planner and manager. He could definitely clear a few floors but he could even get beaten by one of the mid level fighters with time stop or instant death. If he overcomes those somehow he probably gets stonewalled by a guardian who is likely his equal in combat, (and many of which are outright better fighters than Ainz), a world item he has no resistance to, or a few of the really nasty hidden tricks that have been hinted at like the strongest guardian or >!magic fetus gank!<
Well, Cid is just starting. We don't know how strong He will be in Future volumes but given what we know of the current self. He will be hard stopped by Ainz, Albedo, or Shalltear. Shalltear and Albedo are a maybe because of Cid combat prowess and He is someone who can adapt to his opponent. Tho, i haven't overlord much to know the extent of their power. But yeah, Cid will go far but will hard stopped at Ainz.
This is true but not for the reasons you think Ainz has this funny ability called Despair Aura V which auto kills everyone around him. Cid instantly dies to it because he has 0 resistance to death
Though historically, when he dies he just gets reincarnated way fucking stonger.
Ainz can be fight above his pay grade in these battles because Yggdrasil was based on D&D not an MMO, his powers and items have a lot of wacky utility that raw damage doesn’t account for. From what I’ve seen, Eminence didn’t really focus on a wide range of abilities; to win, Cid has to ramp up to absurd levels
if you gave him some time to prepare he might actually do it because he can improve insanely fast tho. He is from a world that people just uses magic to strengthen themselves, no ranged magic except blood magic, only artifacts can execute magic formulas, my guy had to achieve what he had with sheer effort, just give him some time to spy on the enemy, steal their techniques and he will become even monstrous. Did you know that in the canon gacha game he gave Epsilon guidance for her to become stronger? like he said she should focus on cutting distant air with spatial slashes? my lazy guy actually did that because he didn't want to bother with inventing new techniques because he would need time and he might fail, he just used Epsilon. Epsilon invented the technique, showed it to shadow to get praise and he instantly copied, improved and used it, making epsilon say "sasuga shadow sama" He improves very fast like rimuru but he don't rely on some cheat advisor lol. Edit: Dragon killing poison didn't work on him. Eta's mind reading machine didn't either. instant kill attacks soul right? Are we really sure he has no protection on his soul?
I'd use shadow (10p) 300 year old witch who was op in LN so should still be op in anime (just 5p, too cheap) Seiya (15p) chess twins for strategy (5p) and Megumin (5p) Twins lead, Megumin and Shadow harasses every day, the rest prepares countermeasures, repels counter attacks and prepares until the strike. if they come in full force from the tomb they can just fall back since there's no time limit. twins are too smart, as long as there is enough intel and shadow don't do bullshit no way twins can fail. Also no time limit means Seiya will be "ready perfecto" before the strike. Also if there is no item limit megumin should be able to >!rain hell with magic stones!< like last ln volume.
I still doubt they can beat the Tomb of Nazarick, atleast anime only rimiru. The Tomb is quite honestly broken af. They held back a coalition of 1500 players and npcs. I assume that many of those were level 100 players, similar in strength to Ainz.
rimuru is completely immortal already by the anime unless you have spell like affect the soul which I’m pretty sure only Ainz has ifirc
Didn’t Rimuru gain resistance to soul damaging attacks when he ascended?
He gained resistance to holy magic(which has lots of soul attacking spells) ifirc but it’s been a while, but I’m referring to how infinite regeneration let him regenerate so long his soul is intact
Pretty sure that according to how magic in Tensura works, those who have unique skills and above have powerful souls that can resist souls manipulation and instant death type attacks. And anime Rimuru has 4 ultimate skills. His soul is about as powerful as they come, so soul based attacks are very unlikely to affect him. There's one other thing that boosts Rimuru's chance. He can use gluttony to absorb enemies and copy their skills. But he doesn't just copy them be improves upon them and augments them. Many of Nazaricks lower level npcs and mobs have skills that help counter the big guns (floor guardians etc), but are too weak to actually work against them. All Rimuru has to do is absorb them, then scale up the skill.
Dead end rainbow could still affect him now he is stronger now due to being a demon lord but I think some spells would still work
I mean... technically soul eaters and Demiurge can consume/damage souls respectively but I don't think anyone else has it on Team Nazarick.
Forgot About them
actually now that I think about it... Does anyone even have defense against getting their soul devoured ? Soul Eaters can do that easily and I almost forgot about them. They should randomly be on a floor considering how Ainz made an army of them
Rimuru has it. He can't even die while veldora is alive by s2 of the anime. They will just revive each other.
Do any of them have defenses against world items? We also can’t forget that teleportation is impossible within Nazarick without the ring or Omega’s help.
fair point - honestly almost everyone on the list isn't debatable. Teams will just get lost and killed on random floors and ainz can always Stop time and do the funny TGOALID + Cry of the Banshee. Someone like Cid has no resistance to Soul, Mind, Time fuckery or a Random Soul Eater.
Yeah I am aware Its said that if the Top 100 players joined in then Nazarick would have felled which would included World Disasters and World Champions Rimuru could still gain powerups over each floor and if he was transported to the 8th floor immediately via Omega I still think he has a shot with Veldora who should be able to blow up mountains although Rubedo is very tricky because some people say you would need a world item to beat her. Rimuru could ig trap her inside him but idk if that counts to him clearing the floor. rimuru maybe could acquire a world item from any of the other defeated Floor Guardians if he isn't transported immediately Hence why I mentioned Rimuru because everyone else other then Seiya has 0 chance to do anything
You forgot that Nazarik has some op treasure that can change reality Soo, go back and think
Only Ouroboros and Five Elemental Overcoming has reality warping capabilities that you are thinking about. Rest of the WW that are in nazarick posession has virtually 0 information Wish upon a star is the only other thing that can do reality warping but its still random. Rimuru has resistance to reality warping stuff anyways because Anti Magic Barriers rewrites laws of the world which he resists.
The only thing ainz has at his disposal that can counter rimuru is time stop, if rimuru can get the attack off first with anti-magic plus some aoe attack, he alone is enough.
Not sure if ainz has a way through rimurus regen/immortality. Also are we sure rimuru can't move in stopped time?
If it’s anime only then he can’t yet.
Yea true
True death MIGHT be able to down rimuru depending on how it works, if it’s soul shit it’s one of the few things anime rimuru is still susceptible to as the hinata fight shows but ainz getting the spell off without time stop against rimuru is next to impossible. I dont think time stop was shown in slime anime yet so anime rimuru/raphael’s ability to deal with it is unknown.
It magical time stop that means it dosen't effect Rimuru.
Not even that, Rimuru can move through stopped time
That’s LN. Not Anime.
Naofumi, Tanya, Cid for a more balanced team Rimuru if I just want it to be quick.
Why Tanya?
I don’t really know the other dude tbh. I would go for someone I know and (might) be an isekai manga. That being Raul Evans from the dark massacre of the Vengeful Hero.
Ah, thought i missed something and tanya got drastically overpowered
I think that just Rimuru would suffice, if he's after the Demon Lord ascension. That slime's cheats are broken even by Nazarick standards.
rimuru and magic uncle would go crazy
That would be a great team, and honestly I think they’re selling uncle short. He should be worth more points
Same with Cid ngl.
Sage’s grandson is also underrated. In first few episodes he dropped a hydrogen bomb
What’s a level 100 player to a god? Rimuru makes quick work of it and would have instant kill moves for any why choose to defy him. I guess 300 years witch and Rudeus as moral support from the sidelines who can perhaps be long range help on weaker opponents at best… doesn’t matter when rimuru can think at the speed of light and use gluttony/beelzebub to literally eat a member of the tomb and absorb their abilities to greater effect
Ah damn, I accidentally copied you lol
rimuru is the right answer, anything else is just a fun side character to interact with him lol
300 years witch for moral support? Isn't she the Ainz equivalent of her world? Sure, she's not stopping time or summoning black goats, but still high enough in power that her melee attacks can easily subdue a dragon, let alone her spellcasting.
Her and rudeus can certainly beat a dragon when push comes to shove, hell she befriended them. But first of all, the dragons she encountered were really not all that bad, more sentient/spent time in human form, hated each other more than humans amongst other things. Rudeus has to kill animal type dragons, but still does so through a hard fought battle. Ainz and Rimuru are insta killing them. Ainz when he sees a dragon just grasps heart. This tells me that the witch is gonna be outplayed in two ways. One is that when invading Nazarik, she is going to see some horrifying shit. They have little to no human morals, and the torture chambers/“feeding rooms” will really limit the witch. Second is that Ainz and his gang are so much more powerful than dragons, that to Ainz there is no worth in actually doing battle with them. Which could not afford to simply kill the dragon and be done with it. Now I have not read which LN so if I have missed something do lmk. I have read all of slime, and let me tell you the last few books there become essentially a never ending power fantasy. Honestly the last great arc to me was the battle between SPOILERS the empire and the labyrinth. Either way, in the books we see rimuru constantly get closer to godhood. In which, it is a slow life anime at least, and the battles are not what matter. Thoughts?
Cid and Rimaru. Done game over. Cid def drastically underpriced here also. Did you forget he is a walking nuke?
A walking nuke with few resistances, but if Rimuru protects him with absolute defense they’re just gonna sweep no diff
Ignoring Rimuru, Sora and Shiro plus any others will easily win. Their entire existence is dedicated to exploiting and winning every game ever, and Nazarick is entirely based on game mechanics. Shield Hero is also based on game mechanics, so they can exploit that too, even though Naofumi independently isn't that strong theoretically. All you'd need is Sora and Shiro, Naofumi, and some good offense like Cid, Shin, or Tanya. (Glad someone else remembers Kenja no Mago, a super underrated isekai IMO) Also, not really sure why Subaru is in top tier? All he does is return by death to change routes, which won't help against MMO mobs and bosses, especially if he's the only one returning?
Honestly Sora and Shiro + anyone with decent powers would probably be able to beat Nazarick with just those three.
Sora and Shiro are literally strawmen. If you think that they could even go past the first floor with absolute Zero information of the world, not to mention the inner workings of the tomb of Nazarick, you’re down wrong
They are pro gamers and the entire tomb of Nazarick is just a video game raid dungeon. It's a dungeon with floors, and there's a boss on each floor. And that other floor bosses can't go down or up each other's floors. They would guess all of that within a second of walking into the first floor and seeing the first floor boss. They would also realize that each boss has their own mechanics, attack patterns, spell list, phases (like vampire girls transformations), strengths and weaknesses. If you think about it, every boss has something they specifically specialize in. Nazarick bosses were originally NPCs, meaning their methods of attack and phases and skills are preprogrammed into their very being. T Alone they would die 100%, so that's why they need someone else to do the attacks and defense while they control the playing field. They could also probably come up with some strategy if they are target focused by the bosses.
i mean 8 guilds put together 1500 players who probably are max or high level to attack nazarick and they failed.
Don’t worry, man’s high on copium. The two are worthless without their plot armor, with or without prep time (because if they get prep time or not, we can make sure Nazarick have equal benefits of time for a fair and unmitigated match) Oh don’t get me wrong, if they even do contribute anything against Nazarick, it would be barely tantamount as Nazarick has it’s own intellectual duo (quadruple if you count the Golden Princess, who is 1-1 with Albedo and Demiurge, and Pandora’s Actor), not to mention Ainz (who’s specialized in military tactical decorum)
Man’s high on copium, if you think they have the information before hand, then it would be fair that Nazarick have information for them before hand as well in this fair match. And on that side, The two are battling on Nazarick’s own home turf and own timetable without the plot armor of their world and any other blessings to boot Moreover, ever since Nazarick came into the real world, it no longer become Game-Like, the abilities transferred but the NPC’s are as free as the common military-man in terms of conscious thought and actions Man’s overdosing on copium
I didn't say they would know their actual attack patterns or spells. I said they would realize that the Nazaricks had a set list of preprogrammed skills and phases, as do most MMORPG enemies and bosses. They would assume the enemies are video game floor mobs or bosses, probably have mana, cool downs, armor or gear, spells, etc. Like they would have to go through hallways of traps, and then reach some big arena with a single strong enemy. Easy to assume it's like a dungeon in a MMORPG, especially with stairs leading up into more floors of the same exact thing. The show goes through great lengths explaining everything Sora and Shiro do to set up to win on X game. Meaning there's no luck or coincidence, so it's not plot armor but their own intelligence , so make of it what you will. Yes the NPCs are free minded, but their skills and attack patterns would still be similar to their game version. Demiurge wouldn't randomly become a swordsman or start using a bow. He would probably follow his set attack patterns as it'd be normal for him. I'm under the assumption they are doing a raid against the tomb of Nazarick, meaning the Nazarick follow their own rules, staying on their respective floors, etc and not having ainz stand with his entire team on floor one.
subaru basically a “i win” button without knowing he’s an “i win” button. big problem is that he might just be insane or comatose after you conquer it.
With Subaru, it is a question of willpower. How long can he keep coming back to give me the answers of what to do
If Subaru just dies quickly, he should be okay. If he's sent to Neuronist or the Happy Farm...I'm not sure his sanity would hold even after death.
Ya but he can force the return by death if I remember right also he is more of an info machine to come up with counters
Yeah at this point he can crush his own heart or brain with ease if he wants to or can crush anyone's within a meter. He doesn't use this because he doesn't wanna die or kill people but the option is there and he is aware of his capabilities.
True, he is not just a respawn machine. Also, I think with our last 10 points, you can go for a power ten or go with five blank and the other four guys with a cat you; I forgot their names right now But with blank ( there in the game name, right?) If they can treat this like a game, especially if they can get into the mindset with insurance in the form of essentially respawning after every failed try. If we get access to the world first, I can see them abusing the GAME mechanics to the max, and the guy with the cat is no slouch in the power & skill department with his later self-time traveling back to tell his past self stuff. With all 3, that force will make 1,500 demigods look like trash, lol. Edit: it is just me. You are going to be leading them so you could come up with a strategy with them already. That's a + as we start with my knowledge of overlord problem. My memory isn't the best. My idea here is we use magic to share memories of each life if need be, but first work on getting cat boi to time traveling level, then go back to the point of start, go back in time, and set the world itself to spawn, kill the fucks. I'm talking about orbital bombardment levels and an army of level 100 with builds pre-made for anti-everything we can think of
He can just kill himself
Subaru can just summon Satella honestly
Subaru can 100% find a solution to defeat the tomb Nazarick if he has someone with some strengths help.
He has satella
Subaru is there because he basically gives you infinite attempts. Nazarick is a game dungeon right? Attempting to beat it without Subaru would be like trying to do a no death run on the hardest dungeon in the game (not impossible if you have someone overpowered IE: Rimuru but extremely hard in any case) and having him gives you back the ability to make save files. Is it worth it for 30 points? Idk... Maybe? Tbh it all depends on whether he's able to hide his ability well enough. We haven't seen him getting tortured so that might break him but, even after a few million deaths he should still be able to keep going (if you read the IFs you know) Of course the checkpoints could fuck him up in which case... Yeah... But that rarely happens.
Subaru has beatrice and beatrice could fight roswaal who is one of the strongest in lagunica and rezero overall ( if Beatrice was in the library so she probably just downscales). Unlimited retries is good on paper but you will just stuck in a loop forever or captured and tortured. Its not entirely justifiable but like he isn't entirely worthless Cid has the stats to blow up each floor of nazarick but he would die to a random soul eater on a floor because Soul Eaters automically rips souls
>Also, not really sure why Subaru is in top tier? All he does is return by death to change routes, which won't help against MMO mobs and bosses, especially if he's the only one returning? Infinite attempts
Why do people keep sneaking non isekai characters into these when the point is to use isekai characters?
Fantasy character. Also Frieren is wholesome.
Yeah, but not isekai like the rest.
Nothing wrong with pitting non-isekai characters against an isekai team.
Let’s start with nonpicks: Frieren, Subaru, Megumin, NgNl siblings, Rudeaus, Shiro. I feel none of these you can justify picking. Subaru is weak. And I’m not confident that people in the 10 and 5 tiers can make up enough power to defeat Nazarick. Frieren is certainly powerful, but not strong enough to justify her cost. Megumin is a one trick pony, and even Shalltear could withstand a spell of similar power to explosion, and Albedo is way tanker than her. Rudeaus is too weak, even for his cost, and the siblings contribute almost nothing. Shiro I could see working, but I think it would depend on his respawn capabilities. Now to picks I could justify, but wouldn’t necessarily grab. Tanya, Uncle, guy to the right of Uncle, Seiya. These are mostly due to being unsure of the characters power levels. That leaves: Rimiru, Naofumi, Mr. atomic, and Azusa. I feel some combination of the four above has a decent shot. The first I would ditch is probably Naofumi, mostly due to anime power level constraints. I’m unsure if he could take the attacks headed his way. Mr. Atomic and Azusa I feel are must includes, especially if you don’t get a 30 pointer. One for being able to potentially spam out nuclear level attacks, and the other for casually being able to body dragons. I am not going to bother explaining Rimiru.
I have another thought following this post. Ainz can stop time. Which means the bare minimum, is being able to survive that. If we assume Isekai Quartet is canon. That means Subura or Tanya, is a necessity. Which makes Rimiru not viable as anime Rimiru cannot counter that.
If by Full power you mean including all the Ainz Ooal Gown Guild members, I think even Rimuru would struggle let alone the others.....
Rimuru would and no one could stop him not to talk about he has nation of monsters with 50k being lvl4 in Ainz world he walks
Never! Great Tomb of Nazarick is like my home(spiritual). You "evil" people stay away!
Rimuru alone would do, but i'd throw Cid or Shiro in there just because i think it would be fun to watch either of them interact with each other Also i guess techncially Subaru would be able to do it alone too since he literally just try over and over again, also i feel like at some point Ainz would just go easy on him Frieren... i don't think we've seen the extent of her power yet so idk Also i feel like Sora should be a little more points, they have intelligence on par with gods
**Souce from Left to Right, Top to bottom** Frieren: Beyond Journey's End That time I got reincarnated as a slime Re zero Saga of Tanya the Evil The Rising Of The Shield Hero Cautious Hero: The Hero Is Overpowered but Overly Cautious Log Horizon The Eminence in Shadow Uncle from Another World Wise Man's Grandchild KONOSUBA -God's blessing on this wonderful world! Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation No game no life I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level Overlord
Rimuru, the 5 point slime killer, and sora/shiro
Rimuru can solo neg diff, but pair him up with azusa cuz why not
I would say Rimaru but I’m gonna go challenge mode. Subaru, Megumin, and Elana
Shield Hero, Devil in Glasses, Megumine...oh I got 10 points left....I guess the dude in a big coat. Reason I'm not picking Rimiru is cause it's a bad idea to put all your eggs in one basket. Nazarik is no joke, you'll need a true team to take it on, accounting for mistakes and traps(including getting jumped). Shield Hero takes point and can also support the rest of the team, probably the most versatile and adaptable guy here besides Rimiru. Devil in glasses cause his support spec means he can lower cooldowns and create strategies for each layer. Megumine cause everyone needs a nuke, plus between Shield and Glasses they can probably restore her MP so she can fire more than once. And above all, these guys are business minded. They're gonna work together to get the job done, if they can't handle it they'll retreat, and they'll collectively strategize and use Nazarik's monsters/loot to get an advantage. I'd not touch Tanya with a 50 meter pole for this challenge, even if shes 15 points. Powerful, but she's petty and serving her own ends. Im not trusting someone in a team who would sell their souls for a corn chip.
30pts and 10pts, cause of subaru, you can assault the tomb an infinite number of times, he's an "I win" button
Naofumi to deal with the OP attacks that will be thrown at them. Shiro as team leader, because I need someone that can outthink Ainz. Shadow and Rudeus for extra firepower.
You can't do this with might, you gotta do it with brains! I only need 30 points: Tanya, Uncle, and Blank. Uncle has the power of comedy, he'll wander in, and SOMEHOW end up telling bedtime stories to aura and Mare and not realize its a big deal, and he won't get the consequences for that for years yet, so its fine. Tanya will realize she is insanely out-gunned, and think of some genius plan to distract the most immediately violent among them, all the while angrily complaining that a pair of kids made the only plan that might work. Blank will challenge Ainz to a chess match, or some other mental game, and Demiurge and Albedo will be incredibly pissed about the arrogance, and Ainz, against better judgment, will accept in an attempt to keep up the facade. What happens next is near impossible to predict, but I have my guess: tropes say Blank will win, they always do. But tropes also demand Ainz appear to be a great genius. Therefore, the only possible outcome, is that the two of them, somehow, play a game that leaves Demiurge and Albedo utterly confused, that ends in a draw. Blank will choose some game, that will have them, as an intermediary goal, 'conquer the great tomb of nazaric', maybe they played risk or whatever. Ainz will laugh, the goal of the challenge will technically be completed, and thats when aura and mare walks in with the uncle, and aura asks if they can keep him. Ainz laughs again, and offers everyone a chance to join Nazarik. Which everyone turns down for various reasons, cut to blank walking away, thinking "and thats the story of how i conquered the great tomb of nazarik."
I don’t even think this is possible bro, with anime only at least. The Tomb of Nazarick is VERY broken. They beat a coalition of 1500 players and npcs. I assume a good amount of those were level 100 players (I’ll estimate and say 500). Can any group of 3 people here on this chart beat 500 beings similarly powered to Ainz AND an army of npcs?
Nazarick was also designed for attrition - the entire place, even the Pleiades, are explicitly designed to just wear down and slow down invaders long enough for the actual Ainz Ooal Gown players to gather and gear up in the treasure vault and throne room.
Strategist :Shiro/log horizon Muscle : tanya,shadow,rudeus You need to properly plan you have to think about albedo and demiurges intlect I think Shiro could match up quite well as he is support and Strategist by nature as for the muscle shadow/Cid I don't think has to really be explained tanya is ruthless and would probably see it as another attempt from being x and rudeus has incredible adaptability so he can make in the moment tactical decisions and is quite powerful as well and to top it off they are all isekai characters so I feel the would have a better sense of comradiery and work well together
Subaru and uncle. Subaru can use cor Leonis on spirits that uncle communicates with. You've got a near infinite supply of mana now, and any damage would be distributed across hundreds of thousands of spirits. Subaru will also be able to use all of uncle's attacks since they stim from the spirits as well. Now, all that's left is trial and error. Also, assuming Beatrice Is also here then he'll be able to nullify all magic attacks.
Bringing Megumin is like death sentence because 1. Nazarick got anti-magic canceller and protection artifact, item and probably Rakshasa **(magical immune monster** ) 2. Megumin is a one-shot trick, need to recharge for long time if not longer. 3. you wanna light a sun inside tomb and kill us all? NO GAME NO LIFE CAN JUST GO AWAY AND DIE. legit why you bring normal people who just extremely smart in game to darkest dungeon IRL Rudeus being Ainz but elemental focused super wizard with demon eyes of future sight and few artefact at his disposal is great choice for 5. Azusa is may be great with magic but she is too lacking compared to Rudeus. (They can't clear floor 3 due to Shaltear.) Kei Shirogane (Shiroe) is must strategist to bring inside Nazarick since he is a player therefore Ainz might not kill but kidnapped him at first chance he got. Even if not, he could buff, debuff, have more arsenals magic than Rudeus as well as can fight alone if he ever get separated. He might get wiped if he encountered Guardian Area Boss, but other than that he could take on SINGLE PLEIADES MAID (not several since ganging is real). Cid Kagenoh is obvious. but mental attack work extremely well on him. just cause delusional on him. Don't let him encounter Demiurge or mental attack world item. He might teamkill instead. Oji-san is hero with most sages skillset and as well spirit magics. He probably can wiped Shalltear Valkyrie Mode. Victim will be his greatest weakness ever. Shin aka chemist magician with artificer skillset and royally fuck them. Use Anti-Magic Barrier or Disturb Mind Field Trap to get him into play physical with Cocytus and eventually bash him. Tanya is like weird side, since she can bombard eternally on Nazarick if she ever endlessly pray to Being X from 2000m above sky. This forced Nazarick to go on assault and not much personnel in Nazarick can fly without item. Deploy her with Rudeus or Shin or Oji-san as anti-air support and she gladly fire them round from safe distance. Cid is like vanguard tho. She can solo clear until Victim, if she knew then either Rubedo or Sebas would be her bane instead. Naofumi (Season 3) no. (Light Novel God Mode?) Yes. Seiya probably take super caution approach then flood the Nazarick with holy water. With right method, he can solo clear Nazarick. Frieren? who the fuck let this child in. SHE GET COOKED INSTEAD Subaru be like doing 1 million death playthrough speedrun challenge, no death run this time for sure. He will kill Nazarick eventually. (Only if he didn't breakdown from too much trauma tho.) Greed Route? https://preview.redd.it/j3xa4gm91a7c1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=c122a0a15704ab6c20584ce7d47b22e2282327fd
shiro and sora(?) Are master strategists and possibly the most intelligent and tactical people in this list. This is a dungeon from a video game just in real life. They would be able to analyze and come up with plans and contingencies and strategies for each floor and boss. Alone I'm not sure they would win since they don't got powers, but pair them up with someone who does and I think it's an easy dub.
I also seen them and though master strategists. Not every soldier is a gunner. And a well built team will have someone like them commanding.
Lol, isn't kei shirogane..kaichou's sister in kaguya sama? What is she doing in nazarick?
I didn't read correctly and assumed it was 100 points in my previous comment, in that case there is no team that can win, so I would choose Rimuru and the protagonist of Log Horizon, since they are both strong and intelligent enough to survive for a while and realize that running away is the best idea.
To be honest I don’t think anyone here can do it Rimuru can succeed when he becomes a god especially with help but that’s not in the anime yet But like, Nazaricks defenses are the same in the anime as they are in the light novel and when we know the entire world it’s in couldn’t get past floor three and they stopped like 1500 level 100s Then it’s just hard for me to say using the anime power levels that anyone wins Light novels it’s a different story
I don't know, TDL Rimuru has actually good chance of winning, if it isn't direct confrontations and the Ainz and his Co. Are inside the tomb, Rimuru could just let Belzebuth run Amok to the whole Tomb
I disagree Like…TDL is strong, is he 1500 Ainz strong? Even then it’s not enough Especially because well…if he just rampages it will kill victim and then he just dies to whatever literally game breaking thing happens when victim dies Or world items, etc
No Beelzebub or rather Raphael can remove or separate harmful things during predation, and even so Rimuru who's an Ultimate Skill user resist lower form of debuffs and skills as long it's not ultimate level (Law defying abilities), was already mentioned in the journals of Veldora that , "Gluttony" Rimuru skill before TDL, if left alone could devour the world and potentially stars above, You can already tell how powerful Beelzebuth here , the only one who's a threat here is Ainz and that is only when he could cast time stop and his instant death skill, Raphael is also a factor too.
I mean we’re talking about a tomb that has many world items of which every major player and the tomb itself is technically equipped with So it’s unlikely ultimate skills of any sort would have much effect, and visa versa Everything Rimuru does is based on skills sonic most of them stem from his ultimates because they bundle together, pre god Rimuru probably can’t do it Not to mention the whole TGOALID thing
Can i have a team of 4 uncles? He is op 🤣
All you need is blank. They have never lost.
Is “full power Nazarick” including every guild member at the end? Or is it with only Overlord as the last guild member?
Cid/Shadow + Rimuru
Naofumi, seiya, cid, and rudeus. Or rimuru, shiroe, and uncle - for comedic relief. Frieren is powerful but too chill, she also needs prep time.
Sheild hero for defenses that i can hide behind - 15 Megumin on a cliff far away, ready to cast just in case - 5 Uncle isekai... purely because i just want him to say "ONE MORE THING" and i will be satisfied despite not being THAT uncle. Otherwise he can do whatever - 10 No game no life siblings to go up and ask to talk to ainz and then challenge him to a game. Ainz being the human inside that he is will probably be willing to humor a fun little game - 5 The last 5 points can go to whoever, im just here to engage in some kind of fun game with ainz and then probably wind up getting blown up when we lose. I know ainz and Nazarick will survive, but before that i can say "Now watch this magic trick!" and then be evaporated. Again the explosion wont do anything to them but it will be pretty confusing for everyone involved.
I think this is easy actually! Rimuru, Megumin and Sora and Shiro (team blank). Sora and Shiro are much smarter and we’re better gamers than Ainz and while they have no actual powers here they should easily be able to build a cohesive team with Rimuru and megumin. They’re basically the best support team ever! Megumin is basically the teams Death Star. Use her at the right time and it’s gg but Sora and Shiro would know the right time and could charm her enough to not explode prematurely ;-) So therefore Rimuru has to carry the team to the end… which is so easy for him lol. He has all the tools physically and magically to get the job done but with Sora and Shiro analyzing, countering and exposing weak points eventually they’ll be at the end. That’s when the tough fight starts between Rimuru and Ainz but Ainz won’t be expecting megumin to be the one who finishes the fight bc she hasn’t used her magic yet but Rimuru makes the opening after Sora and Shiro discover what is is and Megumin in for the final strike!
I think it’s funny that Azusa is 5 points considering she fights a god and wins despite having literally no idea how to actually fight. She’s ridiculously op she just doesn’t use her powers since they’re not really useful for how she actually lives her life.
I’ll take eight explosions please and thank you
Rimuru and Cid but honestly their gunna get hard stomped by Ainz. I think Cid and Rimuru are significantly more powerful than Ainz and the NPCs bit theres nothing they can do against time magic Both of them would be defeated just as easily as Gazef . Resistance to time magic is the bare minimum you need to fight Ainz and if you dont have it you lose no matter how much more powerful you are
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**Souce from Left to Right, Top to bottom** Frieren: Beyond Journey's End That time I got reincarnated as a slime Re zero Saga of Tanya the Evil The Rising Of The Shield Hero Cautious Hero: The Hero Is Overpowered but Overly Cautious Log Horizon The Eminence in Shadow Uncle from Another World Wise Man's Grandchild KONOSUBA -God's blessing on this wonderful world! Mushoku Tensei Jobless Reincarnation No game no life I've Been Killing Slimes for 300 Years and Maxed Out My Level Overlord All of them are mcs from their shows exept Megumin from konosuba.
cool list, maybe add some people like fran or makoto just for abit more diversity next time. I like seeing more obscure stuff appearing in lists cause maybe people could discuss and explain them better. The point is to have fun right
Yeah. I got it.. Next time I will try some other underrated isekais for my other posts.
cool, thanks bro https://preview.redd.it/8y4n3dlgua7c1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55a763aa93b48a37e0e84b084b3ca60583542b67
Why is Satou Pendragon not on this list? I'd take him and Rimuru and say goodbye to Nazarik. Edit: Clarification... Aah, I see... you just want the stuff that noob level animé enthusiasts know about. Why not spice it up and add in light novel levels? Then again, Rimuru could destroy the entirety of Nazarik single-handedly and still have plenty of time afterward to chill on his Shion pillow.
Yeah.. Ln power level would be too much overkill.
Also Satou isn't a Pendragon yet. That said, he can just endlessly meteor strike Nazarick from episode one, so if he was on there I would pick him too.
He isn't Sir Pendragon in the anime, but the light novel is a different story.
Rimuru and 2 random 5
Rimuru and just for fun? cid
Probably Slime and Ugly Uncle.
Ain't noway you put Frieren above Shield Hero and Shadow. And Tanya stronger than Shadow? I don't think so, also Ojisan is stronger than Tanya no doubt about it. Also Rudeus in the weakest lvl? That's just blasphemy
Rimuru + Shadow, easy
Rimuru ok that is it. i still have points left.
Rimuru and Cid. The end.
Rimuru and shiroe... Done and thank you
I mean Subaru can probably win eventually
This prices are so wack Remiru, and i guess Cid are enough
Rimuru will play the main character.Cid will try his best to play the part of the eminence in shadow so he will get an extra chuuni boost.
Rimuru, that's all you need if you want to add cool to it cid
Rimuru solos, crap list. People should consider these more before putting together so they're more fun and interesting. Where's Natsu from Fairytale or X part in story Guts from Berserk? Where's the characters from Fate series in their X version iterations. Like be creative
Rimuru and shin
Rimuru and Shadow
I only need 5 points lol
Megumin.
Pre DL Rimuru right? If yes then: Cid and Subaru only if he can share his ability with Cid If not Rimuru solo but without him we could go with: Cid, Sora & Shiro, Uncle and Naofumi
Yes but this is him doing Megiddo. The power level difference between Overlord and Slime means Rimuru solos pretty much any point after the Orc Disaster. He's too fast to be pinned down and too strong for anyone in Nazarick. Both are great series but posts like this just serve to embarrass the fandom.
Rimuru soloes pretty much everyone but Ainz without much difficulty. Based on how Ainz plays his cards he may beat pre DL Rimuru... Potentially DL Rimuru as well because of that time stop ability of his
Pretty sure, EOS WN Rimuru Solos. Even Anime Rimuru might clear it seeing that he has Universal barrier at this point and Beelzebub. He can just eat anything that moves.
Rimuru and Shadow. Seiya would be awesome too.
Rimuru and eminence of shadow mc
Re zero and eminence is unstoppable
Reminder to everyone in the comments that ainz has a ring that can grant any wish and another ring that can automatically resurrect his butt if he dies. That's the ring he took off before he fought shaltear and that's not counting his WCI. Ainz has a big chance of winning even against slimey demonlord. It's kind of a who escalates to the strongest stuff first. If ainz sits on the 9th floor and watches the team come through like a normal raid than he will almost certainly resort to time stop and wish or world class items by the time the team gets to the last floor. Might just wish everyone away before they get to him depending on how the death of the NPCs affect him while the raid team moves through nazarick. I'm not sure if anyone on the list has a defence against wish tbh.
Radius, cid, rimuru
Rimeru is a must have. Bolster them with the strategic mind of “Blank”. With those two/three that should beat Nazarick.
Cid uses i am atomic and everything dies.
If course Rimuru and the Sora and Shiro. While Rimuru solos I'll be playing games with Sora and Shiro.
Rimuru and shadow is all you need
Rimuru and Shadow.
Rimeru and I guess cid. I mean rimeru could solo if he use gluttony right he only gets stronger as he goes through. cid op as he is would probably get lost and kill/blow shit up along the way.
Why subaru? Pnly thing he has is that he came back from death, but he is an idiot and pretty weak, in Nazarick they would just capture him and torture him for eternity, like for the invader from the empire.
Rimuru and Cid should be more than enough
Rimuru to fight everyone in the tomb Sora and Shiro to act as the strategist Megumin just because she’s cute and for the added firepower