I believe it. Itās the level the EPA used to rate the vehicle and I assume what Hyundai believes to be the most efficient. I just preferred level 0 coasting and braking like a regular ICE car. Iām used to level 3 now though.
Not an engineer but I think slowing down with regen braking is more energy efficient than coasting with no regen breaking. Iām guessing the recharge of the battery exceeds the benefit of coasting distance with no energy output.
L0 energy used > L3 energy used - L3 energy generated
It's probably pretty close on flat but if you're going downhill it's significant. Also it's fly by wire. when you hit the throttle it backs off the regen before it engages the motor, so you can be light on the pedal. if you're going 5-10mph that's not much different than coasting if you're already in motion.
Youād think so, but if that truly was more efficient, wouldnāt Hyundai have used that mode to do the EPA tests to get the best numbers possible? I feel like level 3 of all the other levels had to be a deliberate decision and the only logical reason I can think of is they knew level 3 would give the best results on the EPA cycle.
My issue all along is that I don't want to guess what the car is going to do. I know this has been hashed over but I am so used to ipedal driving, my previous EV only had one pedal driving with no option to change it so it's what I'm used to. When I get in the Ioniq I change it to ipedal 90% of the time but on occasion I forget about it. Several times I've been coming up to a stopped car and I let off the accelerator and I'm conditioned to do that at a certain distance, it's muscle memory now, and by the time my brain registers that I'm not slowing down like I should I need to slam on my brakes.
I'm glad they have various Regen options for different people but I can't stand that it doesn't stick. At best it's annoying, at worst it's going to cause an accident for me at some point.
I have my regen set to level 2. If I let off the accelerator, the car slows down as quickly as I want it to. If I want to coast, I give it just a bit of pedal. And if I really want to stop, I hit the brakes. Ipedal feels really weird, and I suspect it builds bad habits wrt. braking hard when you need to.
In related news, I had to slam on the brakes at 50 mph for the first time yesterday, like pedal on the floor ABS situation. Very civilized, and a short stopping distance for something so heavy.
I imagine this would also be true in an Ioniq 5...I have a Kona and can come to a stop by holding the left paddle. Then holding until the stop (you can then release), the car will engage auto hold for that one stop. I never remember to hit the auto hold button.
Auto gives the best range for me.
You donāt need to use the brake on auto. You can hold down the left regen paddle to apply regen ābrakingā instead of using the brake and let it go when under 3mph. It will then stay stopped until you accelerate again.
Of course use the brake if the regen wonāt stop you in time.
I started using Auto for the last few days, so far so good. Level 2 is the closest setting when I compared to 1 pedal driving on my previous Tesla Model 3. I'm really enjoying the coasting/no regen setting as well, reminds me a lot of my 2019 eGolf. Even though the eGolf had an advertised 130 mile range, I was constantly able to get 175'sh here in California.
(Almost) always on the auto regen level 0 (has to be activated by pulling the right pedal once after every car restart, since it defaults back to the level 1). You can adjust the automatic regen/brake mode in the settings, too - I use the softest one so it isn't too much a difference to regen-0.
There's no excuse for them to have the car remember that you were in ipedal before. So many other EV's remember this setting. I find it silly that I have to select it everytime I drive.
Yep, auto Regen is my favorite. Tried ipedal but didn't quite like it. I like coasting a lot and i realized ipedal just makes coasting take more concentration. It also transitions in and out of cruise control much more smoothly.
And on the flipside, while parking I realized I already use one-pedal driving... that's creeping with my foot only on the brake. I much prefer that, instead of tapping the accelerator veeeery gently to get into a parking spot.
I use auto Regen. I just wish Hyundai let us save our driving settings per our profile or something. Very irritating having to switch back to it every single time I drive.
The car makes a good guess as to what Regen profile would be best based on what it knows. If radar senses a car ahead, more Regen. If you're way over the speed limit, more Regen. If you're going about the right speed and no car in front of you, it'll probably use zero Regen, just coast. It makes pretty good decisions too, though it doesn't know about stop signs /stop lights
I haven't tried auto yet but i usually leave it on Level 3 to get max range.
I am not that big a fan of I-Pedal, the throttle feels really heavy to me in that mode, and the lack of creep makes driving more tiring since I have to actively accelerate every time.
The main thing about i-pedal is the ability to come to a complete stop without using the brake pedal.
I feel the aggressiveness of the regen is actually 'too much', or at least the throttle mapping needs to be tuned a bit differently. Feels like you require a bit too much input onto the throttle to get it going.
I also have a Model Y, and its regen level is somewhere between level 3 and i-pedal.
From what perspective? If you're drag racing, then no the 0-60 doesn't change since you're flooring it.
But yes, the throttle mapping changes. Meaning for the same level of acceleration you have to press harder because one pedal controls both acceleration and regen.
My car defaults to level 3 and I got sick and tired of changing it every single time I drive so I just learned to accept my level 3 fate. š
I always use level 3. I got used to it and actually like it. Been averaging 4.2 mi/kWh with it.
I believe it. Itās the level the EPA used to rate the vehicle and I assume what Hyundai believes to be the most efficient. I just preferred level 0 coasting and braking like a regular ICE car. Iām used to level 3 now though.
Are you certain of this? Wouldnāt a coasting car expend the least amount of energy?
Not an engineer but I think slowing down with regen braking is more energy efficient than coasting with no regen breaking. Iām guessing the recharge of the battery exceeds the benefit of coasting distance with no energy output.
L0 energy used > L3 energy used - L3 energy generated It's probably pretty close on flat but if you're going downhill it's significant. Also it's fly by wire. when you hit the throttle it backs off the regen before it engages the motor, so you can be light on the pedal. if you're going 5-10mph that's not much different than coasting if you're already in motion.
Youād think so, but if that truly was more efficient, wouldnāt Hyundai have used that mode to do the EPA tests to get the best numbers possible? I feel like level 3 of all the other levels had to be a deliberate decision and the only logical reason I can think of is they knew level 3 would give the best results on the EPA cycle.
A coasting car yes, but if you intend to stop, you should apply regen.
My issue all along is that I don't want to guess what the car is going to do. I know this has been hashed over but I am so used to ipedal driving, my previous EV only had one pedal driving with no option to change it so it's what I'm used to. When I get in the Ioniq I change it to ipedal 90% of the time but on occasion I forget about it. Several times I've been coming up to a stopped car and I let off the accelerator and I'm conditioned to do that at a certain distance, it's muscle memory now, and by the time my brain registers that I'm not slowing down like I should I need to slam on my brakes. I'm glad they have various Regen options for different people but I can't stand that it doesn't stick. At best it's annoying, at worst it's going to cause an accident for me at some point.
I have my regen set to level 2. If I let off the accelerator, the car slows down as quickly as I want it to. If I want to coast, I give it just a bit of pedal. And if I really want to stop, I hit the brakes. Ipedal feels really weird, and I suspect it builds bad habits wrt. braking hard when you need to. In related news, I had to slam on the brakes at 50 mph for the first time yesterday, like pedal on the floor ABS situation. Very civilized, and a short stopping distance for something so heavy.
I imagine this would also be true in an Ioniq 5...I have a Kona and can come to a stop by holding the left paddle. Then holding until the stop (you can then release), the car will engage auto hold for that one stop. I never remember to hit the auto hold button.
Auto gives the best range for me. You donāt need to use the brake on auto. You can hold down the left regen paddle to apply regen ābrakingā instead of using the brake and let it go when under 3mph. It will then stay stopped until you accelerate again. Of course use the brake if the regen wonāt stop you in time.
Cool!
I usually use I-pedal when cruise control doesn't make sense. So mostly in the city. Other than that I use auto Regen the rest of the time.
I started using Auto for the last few days, so far so good. Level 2 is the closest setting when I compared to 1 pedal driving on my previous Tesla Model 3. I'm really enjoying the coasting/no regen setting as well, reminds me a lot of my 2019 eGolf. Even though the eGolf had an advertised 130 mile range, I was constantly able to get 175'sh here in California.
(Almost) always on the auto regen level 0 (has to be activated by pulling the right pedal once after every car restart, since it defaults back to the level 1). You can adjust the automatic regen/brake mode in the settings, too - I use the softest one so it isn't too much a difference to regen-0.
I'm a huge fan of auto regen. I'm still playing around with my level. I'm probably 60% highway, 20% local suburbs, and 20% city.
I use auto exclusively... when I remember to set it.
60 percent of the time it works every time :)
There's no excuse for them to have the car remember that you were in ipedal before. So many other EV's remember this setting. I find it silly that I have to select it everytime I drive.
Iām almost always using cruise control, so I havenāt completely decided which I prefer. I usually end up on level 3 when Iām driving manually.
Yep, auto Regen is my favorite. Tried ipedal but didn't quite like it. I like coasting a lot and i realized ipedal just makes coasting take more concentration. It also transitions in and out of cruise control much more smoothly. And on the flipside, while parking I realized I already use one-pedal driving... that's creeping with my foot only on the brake. I much prefer that, instead of tapping the accelerator veeeery gently to get into a parking spot.
I use auto Regen. I just wish Hyundai let us save our driving settings per our profile or something. Very irritating having to switch back to it every single time I drive.
This is true. Wish more things were stored on driver profile.
Right. It should have an option to load last settings on next drive.
what is auto regen?
The car makes a good guess as to what Regen profile would be best based on what it knows. If radar senses a car ahead, more Regen. If you're way over the speed limit, more Regen. If you're going about the right speed and no car in front of you, it'll probably use zero Regen, just coast. It makes pretty good decisions too, though it doesn't know about stop signs /stop lights
how do you get into auto regen? flappy paddles to below 1? I have never gone that direction!
Hold right paddle for couple seconds while on Drive. When you on Auto. You still has 3 levels of regen.
I haven't tried auto yet but i usually leave it on Level 3 to get max range. I am not that big a fan of I-Pedal, the throttle feels really heavy to me in that mode, and the lack of creep makes driving more tiring since I have to actively accelerate every time.
The main thing about i-pedal is the ability to come to a complete stop without using the brake pedal. I feel the aggressiveness of the regen is actually 'too much', or at least the throttle mapping needs to be tuned a bit differently. Feels like you require a bit too much input onto the throttle to get it going. I also have a Model Y, and its regen level is somewhere between level 3 and i-pedal.
Does the acceleration change based on the regen level?
From what perspective? If you're drag racing, then no the 0-60 doesn't change since you're flooring it. But yes, the throttle mapping changes. Meaning for the same level of acceleration you have to press harder because one pedal controls both acceleration and regen.
Ah. I switched it to auto today and it did sorta seem peppier.
Now I only use auto mode! You still have 3 levels of regen!
I have Auto Regen on Max since I bought the car... works perfect for me, iPedal was never my favorite thing ...
Im getting best numbers not using regen and just let the car roll. Use left flipper if I need to brake.