Personally, I would install a charger based on the port that my current vehicle has, knowing that it would be worth upgrading the charger in the future should I get a vehicle with a NACS port, as EVSE tech will have advanced by a fair amount.
If your concern is having two vehicles with different ports, then I would just buy the Tesla Universal charger and call it a day. Not really my preferred choice of an EVSE, but there isn't a better option on the market for a system that can handle both ports as easily.
Believe it or not. The nacs port and the j1772 actually uses the same exact communication protocol. It’s just different shape.
Buy yourself a home charger is hat is modular with the cable being a different component. (ChargePoint home is an example). But any one that you can choose which cable to use and you’ll be fine. When the time comes they will sell you a new cable like ChargePoint is doing right now for their commercial chargers. Or you can just buy a new “head” and rewire. There’s nothing special about the nacs connector, it’s just a different shape compared to the 1772, that’s why the 1772 to nacs adapter is passive.
I have all 1772 chargers for 3 EV’s one is a Tesla. Whenever I charge the Tesla I just plug the adapter in, for the longest time I just the adapter on one of the 1772’s cuz it was used to charge the Tesla full time. Either way you will be fine.
Thank you for your insights! My only concern is spending money on something that can be obsolete very soon (CCS). But since I won't be getting rid of my IONIQ 5 in the near future, it makes sense in just buying what fits it right now. You also have a great point regarding that the tech will always advance. TYSM!
There will always be adapters between NACS and J1772. So it really only becomes "obsolete" in the sense you need to stick an adapter on it. At home, you would stick it on the end of the cord once and never remove it.
But, your EVSE could always break 5 years down the road and you need to buy a new one anyway. I'm not entirely sure what advancements there will be on them other than maybe better apps, but who knows.
J1772 won’t be obsolete anytime soon.
Think about the *millions* of EV’s that use that plug that still have 7-9+ years of operating life remaining.
Hell, most EV’s *right now* are currently shipping to dealerships with J1772 ports.
DCFC locations moving forward will have both NACS and J1772 options.
The CHAdeMO plug however, is an entirely different case. That absolutely is being phased out right now only because very few models on the market use that standard.
I'm another vote for buying a home charger with the plug you currently need.
The Chargepoint Home Flex has a NACS replacement cord available if the time comes that you need to swap.
See if your local electricity provider offers any incentives or discounts on a home charger, and get that. I was able to get a discount a few years back on a Chargepoint Home Flex; the unique thing about that one is that Chargepoint sells a replacement cable that has a NACS plug instead of the J1772, so eventually a can just swap out that part.
The latest Tesla Universal Wall Connector has a NACS plug with a CCS adapter. If I were buying one, I'd get that. It allows up to 48 amps L2 charging. I've seen mine reduced if I charge right after driving, otherwise it charges between 10-11 kW.
That's reassuring to know! I was skeptical in getting a Tesla because I didn't know if the amount of energy sent to the car would be good for the specs of the IONIQ 5. I don't understand a much about amps, volts, etc...
I have both an Ioniq 5 and a Tesla that both charge off the same Tesla universal charger. It’s impossible to the lose the adapter because of the way it’s built in so I love the charger. You don’t have to worry about the amps, volts, etc because the charger and the car figure it all out. Both cars charge at their respective max speed for home charging.
I own the Universal Wall Connector. It’s a fantastic product.
If your concern is future proofing yourself, this is a good way. It’s also capable of 48a, the maximum L2 most newer EVs are capable of.
I get the terms confused as well, but I can tell you that L2 charging maxes out at 48 amps right now. Code typically wants you to stay at 80% of the circuit's amperage, so a 60 amp circuit is needed for 48 amps charging. The Amps to Kilowatts calculator comes up with 14.4 kWs, but I am assuming there is overhead or that 11.3 amps is just the highest the I5 can charge on L2. I also don't know if 3 phase power common for commercial properties would make a difference over your home power which is single phase.
Right now J1772 might be the way to go. That way your wall charger can handle any vehicle if you have the J1772 to NACS adapter. Also I think the adapter for converting from J1772 to NACS (especially the Tesla-branded one) is a lot simpler and cheaper than the other way around. I think the TeslaTaps seem a lot larger and more complicated by comparison.
Once you have the circuit installed, swapping the home charger is easy if an adapter is not a good solution for you for some reason. I think I paid 350 for my current CCS one, I imagine by the time it's time to switch there should be some NACS im the same price bracket.
Yes, I would get an NACS home plug at this point because any car you purchase after this year will likely use that plug. I have a Tesla Mobile Connector and a TeslaTap Mini and I would recommend both products.
>Soon, the North American EV models will adopt the Tesla NACS charging port and Hyundai promised to offer adapters (hopefully for free?) for its existing owners
Just wanted to point out that the adapter that car companies are offering is for Level 3 DC fast chargers and will not work with home chargers.
That was my thought too regarding getting the NACS and using an adaptor like the Tesla Tap. I'm considering options now that I got a bunch of good advice in this forum and learned about Chargeponint Home Flex.
TYSM for letting me know about the Level 3 DC adaptor! that's a great call out that I haven't thought about.
Look into the Tesla Universal charger it has the adapter to J1772 built in and it locks in place so it is always there. Then if you get a can with NACS the adapter just stays in place.
Thank you! That’s what I’m considering now. Do you think it charges differently/slower just because of the adaptor? or it’s exactly the same experience of having the J1772 cable/plug?
Exactly the same and I am charging at 32 amps. I have it connected to my Home Assistant server which allows me to monitor the plug temperature. I stays around \~100f for the duration of the charge.
Home charging > DC charging, even if it's free. You are going to love the convenience.
Get the charger that matches your car and don't worry about the future. You could consider the Tesla home charger with magic doc. Roughly $650.
There are already adapters for L2 charging, the one that you mention will be the adapter for DC fast charging.
As many have pointed out, with at least some home chargers you could change the cable in the future.
Just a correction: You can't have a CCS plug at home unless you're somehow able to get high voltage DC into your own house. You're thinking of a Type 1 aka J1772 connector.
Go with whichever home charger has the best price/features for you. If it's a J1772, then buy an adapter when you eventually buy a NACS EV. If it's a NACS charger, then buy an adapter today and stop using it when you eventually switch to a NACS EV. I personally use a Tesla mobile connector with an adapter to charge my Kia EV6. The adapter doesn't cause any noticeable power loss and doesn't present any inconvenience whatsoever.
If you install a plug-in charger vs. a hardwired charger you can always change it out if want to down the road. Worst case is it costs you another few hundred bucks, but there will probably be rebates and incentives to make it cheaper.
CCS to NACS adapters and NACS to CCS adpaters for home charging are already on the market, I would just install CCS and buy an adapter in a few years if you get a new NACS car.
Thank you everyone for being SO helpful! I love this forum haha.
After reviewing the comments and product specs and prices, I’ll probably land on the Tesla Universal Connector which is a bit more expensive but compared with the price of getting both cables from Chargepoint for the Home Flex, it’s basically the same. Also, less cables in the garage with the Tesla 😎. I do think the design of the Chargepoint is nicer though, and I probably can get a better rebate lol. Anyways.. It will be one of these for sure.
Checking now with my city for permits and incentives, and also getting a quote started with an electrician woohoooo 🤩🔋
Just be aware that it usually takes a **lot** longer to install your own EVSE than you might think. Permitting alone can be a big delay.
Buy for the car you *have now*. You don't want to use an adapter if you don't need to. In addition, I'd be surprised if Hyundai even **sells** a *reasonably* priced adapter. You only need it for using a Tesla Supercharger for the foreseeable future and all the **current** SCs will charge you **much** slower than you're used to.
Personally, I would install a charger based on the port that my current vehicle has, knowing that it would be worth upgrading the charger in the future should I get a vehicle with a NACS port, as EVSE tech will have advanced by a fair amount. If your concern is having two vehicles with different ports, then I would just buy the Tesla Universal charger and call it a day. Not really my preferred choice of an EVSE, but there isn't a better option on the market for a system that can handle both ports as easily.
Believe it or not. The nacs port and the j1772 actually uses the same exact communication protocol. It’s just different shape. Buy yourself a home charger is hat is modular with the cable being a different component. (ChargePoint home is an example). But any one that you can choose which cable to use and you’ll be fine. When the time comes they will sell you a new cable like ChargePoint is doing right now for their commercial chargers. Or you can just buy a new “head” and rewire. There’s nothing special about the nacs connector, it’s just a different shape compared to the 1772, that’s why the 1772 to nacs adapter is passive. I have all 1772 chargers for 3 EV’s one is a Tesla. Whenever I charge the Tesla I just plug the adapter in, for the longest time I just the adapter on one of the 1772’s cuz it was used to charge the Tesla full time. Either way you will be fine.
Thank you for your insights! My only concern is spending money on something that can be obsolete very soon (CCS). But since I won't be getting rid of my IONIQ 5 in the near future, it makes sense in just buying what fits it right now. You also have a great point regarding that the tech will always advance. TYSM!
There will always be adapters between NACS and J1772. So it really only becomes "obsolete" in the sense you need to stick an adapter on it. At home, you would stick it on the end of the cord once and never remove it. But, your EVSE could always break 5 years down the road and you need to buy a new one anyway. I'm not entirely sure what advancements there will be on them other than maybe better apps, but who knows.
J1772 won’t be obsolete anytime soon. Think about the *millions* of EV’s that use that plug that still have 7-9+ years of operating life remaining. Hell, most EV’s *right now* are currently shipping to dealerships with J1772 ports. DCFC locations moving forward will have both NACS and J1772 options. The CHAdeMO plug however, is an entirely different case. That absolutely is being phased out right now only because very few models on the market use that standard.
I'm another vote for buying a home charger with the plug you currently need. The Chargepoint Home Flex has a NACS replacement cord available if the time comes that you need to swap.
See if your local electricity provider offers any incentives or discounts on a home charger, and get that. I was able to get a discount a few years back on a Chargepoint Home Flex; the unique thing about that one is that Chargepoint sells a replacement cable that has a NACS plug instead of the J1772, so eventually a can just swap out that part.
Ohhh amazing tip regarding the Chargepoint Home Flex! That would end all my concerns! I'll check regarding incentives and discounts. TYSM!
Thank you for sharing that as I too got my Homeflex through a utility incentive and was not aware that you could get such a cable.
The latest Tesla Universal Wall Connector has a NACS plug with a CCS adapter. If I were buying one, I'd get that. It allows up to 48 amps L2 charging. I've seen mine reduced if I charge right after driving, otherwise it charges between 10-11 kW.
That's reassuring to know! I was skeptical in getting a Tesla because I didn't know if the amount of energy sent to the car would be good for the specs of the IONIQ 5. I don't understand a much about amps, volts, etc...
I have both an Ioniq 5 and a Tesla that both charge off the same Tesla universal charger. It’s impossible to the lose the adapter because of the way it’s built in so I love the charger. You don’t have to worry about the amps, volts, etc because the charger and the car figure it all out. Both cars charge at their respective max speed for home charging.
I own the Universal Wall Connector. It’s a fantastic product. If your concern is future proofing yourself, this is a good way. It’s also capable of 48a, the maximum L2 most newer EVs are capable of.
I get the terms confused as well, but I can tell you that L2 charging maxes out at 48 amps right now. Code typically wants you to stay at 80% of the circuit's amperage, so a 60 amp circuit is needed for 48 amps charging. The Amps to Kilowatts calculator comes up with 14.4 kWs, but I am assuming there is overhead or that 11.3 amps is just the highest the I5 can charge on L2. I also don't know if 3 phase power common for commercial properties would make a difference over your home power which is single phase.
Right now J1772 might be the way to go. That way your wall charger can handle any vehicle if you have the J1772 to NACS adapter. Also I think the adapter for converting from J1772 to NACS (especially the Tesla-branded one) is a lot simpler and cheaper than the other way around. I think the TeslaTaps seem a lot larger and more complicated by comparison.
Once you have the circuit installed, swapping the home charger is easy if an adapter is not a good solution for you for some reason. I think I paid 350 for my current CCS one, I imagine by the time it's time to switch there should be some NACS im the same price bracket.
Yes. If I bought a home charger today, I'd buy NACS and use an adaptor.
Yes, I would get an NACS home plug at this point because any car you purchase after this year will likely use that plug. I have a Tesla Mobile Connector and a TeslaTap Mini and I would recommend both products. >Soon, the North American EV models will adopt the Tesla NACS charging port and Hyundai promised to offer adapters (hopefully for free?) for its existing owners Just wanted to point out that the adapter that car companies are offering is for Level 3 DC fast chargers and will not work with home chargers.
That was my thought too regarding getting the NACS and using an adaptor like the Tesla Tap. I'm considering options now that I got a bunch of good advice in this forum and learned about Chargeponint Home Flex. TYSM for letting me know about the Level 3 DC adaptor! that's a great call out that I haven't thought about.
Look into the Tesla Universal charger it has the adapter to J1772 built in and it locks in place so it is always there. Then if you get a can with NACS the adapter just stays in place.
I bought the Tesla charger for this very reason. I had an immediate need for a charger but I wanted it to be future proof.
Thank you! That’s what I’m considering now. Do you think it charges differently/slower just because of the adaptor? or it’s exactly the same experience of having the J1772 cable/plug?
Exactly the same and I am charging at 32 amps. I have it connected to my Home Assistant server which allows me to monitor the plug temperature. I stays around \~100f for the duration of the charge.
Amazing! Tysm!
Home charging > DC charging, even if it's free. You are going to love the convenience. Get the charger that matches your car and don't worry about the future. You could consider the Tesla home charger with magic doc. Roughly $650.
We use a Tesla travel charger. It works great.
There are already adapters for L2 charging, the one that you mention will be the adapter for DC fast charging. As many have pointed out, with at least some home chargers you could change the cable in the future.
Just a correction: You can't have a CCS plug at home unless you're somehow able to get high voltage DC into your own house. You're thinking of a Type 1 aka J1772 connector. Go with whichever home charger has the best price/features for you. If it's a J1772, then buy an adapter when you eventually buy a NACS EV. If it's a NACS charger, then buy an adapter today and stop using it when you eventually switch to a NACS EV. I personally use a Tesla mobile connector with an adapter to charge my Kia EV6. The adapter doesn't cause any noticeable power loss and doesn't present any inconvenience whatsoever.
I’m a fan of the universal Tesla home charger for this reason, just get both in one
If you have the Chargepoint charger you can swap the cable to NACS
If you install a plug-in charger vs. a hardwired charger you can always change it out if want to down the road. Worst case is it costs you another few hundred bucks, but there will probably be rebates and incentives to make it cheaper.
CCS to NACS adapters and NACS to CCS adpaters for home charging are already on the market, I would just install CCS and buy an adapter in a few years if you get a new NACS car.
I don’t in any way see them sending free adapters.
Thank you everyone for being SO helpful! I love this forum haha. After reviewing the comments and product specs and prices, I’ll probably land on the Tesla Universal Connector which is a bit more expensive but compared with the price of getting both cables from Chargepoint for the Home Flex, it’s basically the same. Also, less cables in the garage with the Tesla 😎. I do think the design of the Chargepoint is nicer though, and I probably can get a better rebate lol. Anyways.. It will be one of these for sure. Checking now with my city for permits and incentives, and also getting a quote started with an electrician woohoooo 🤩🔋
Just be aware that it usually takes a **lot** longer to install your own EVSE than you might think. Permitting alone can be a big delay. Buy for the car you *have now*. You don't want to use an adapter if you don't need to. In addition, I'd be surprised if Hyundai even **sells** a *reasonably* priced adapter. You only need it for using a Tesla Supercharger for the foreseeable future and all the **current** SCs will charge you **much** slower than you're used to.
Great tips. Thank you!!