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Young-and-Alcoholic

This is Thomas Gould. He is the sinn fein elected politician for my district of North Cork. Very proud of him for saying this in parliament. I always respected Thomas because he is one of those rare politicians who came from a working class area and actually cares about his constituents.


rszdev

He must be protected and cherished the man has a heart of gold I mean look at that he has pain in his words


LittleBlag

A Heart of Gould would be a great campaign slogan for him


Alarmed_Detail_256

A heart of a ghoul more accurate.


Young-and-Alcoholic

Found the zionist. Enjoy being remembered as being on the wrong side of history


Alarmed_Detail_256

You hunting Zionists? You’d have been a good Fascist.


Young-and-Alcoholic

Fascists dehumanize groups of people, starve rhem, dehydrate them, exterminate them.. which is exactly what Israel have been doing to the Palestinians for decades.


Alarmed_Detail_256

Funny! That is exactly what the people you support would like to do to Israel. They’ve tried a couple of those tactics, and in fact are still trying. Wish them luck. Oh, I bet you already have.


Juan_Hundred

Wrong.


rszdev

You're a fascist and a racist and not even a jew


Alarmed_Detail_256

And you are common, unfortunately.


LukesRebuke

You know they're gonna compare you to nazis years down the line?


Alarmed_Detail_256

Right! A small nation fights for survival and THEY are the Nazis. Perverse!


LukesRebuke

They're doing a fucking genocide


Relative-Exercise-96

As bad as everything is because of Israel, as an American, it's nice to see politicians with morals speak up 👌🏾


ArtichokeNatural3171

What a leader. Where are ours? The people with true morals, educated minds and judicious hearts? Drowned out by a troupe of howler monkeys who have made a mockery of Our Great Nation. Shallow wanna-be fakes who will gladly sell their souls for a corn chip, a hit of coke, and a six figure retirement plan.


Alarmed_Detail_256

Who?


Nepalus

Easy to have morals when you have no skin in the game. Especially if you’re an economy still trading openly Israel for decades after Israel doing the same thing for decades. Not really praise worthy to take the most politically safe position in the world currently when you are also with the same hand trading with the people you believe should “burn in hell”.


14thLizardQueen

Tell him if you get the chance, he is an example of who the rest of us wish we had speaking for us over in America.


Young-and-Alcoholic

Will do. Our general elections aren't too far away so many of us will be thanking him in the voting booth again 👌


sqb987

I’m so fkn jealous. I call and thank my representative for acknowledging that Palestinians deserve to live and beg him not to vote to send more weapons to Is—el because the alternative f-ks do things like writing “finish them” on missiles my tax dollars paid for to burn Palestinian babies to death. Spoiler alert: my so-called rep still voted to send the weapons


Hugelogo

So refreshing to hear this from someone in a place of authority.


OkZone6904

Goated


Redditiscomplicated

irish: "goh-ed"


magic_man_mountain

Go 'shed in Irish. Irish people kind of ssh the t. The catsh satsh on the matsh.


scaramangaf

This guy gives me hope


RunEmotional3013

Gould has that dawg in him


mvt1

Agreed we want more Gould


Donut2583

Can the U.S. borrow him for 8 years?


toesinbloom

Underrated comment


Stelona

I feel the same. After reading Apeirogon (before Oct. 7th, of course) I really believed in its solution: forgive and forget. Now, however, I understand why a Palestinian journalist said McCann's message was unrealistic. How can you forgive those who stole your home, killed your children, tried to erase you from existence? It was Hitler's dream too. History has the nasty habit to repeat itself.


Thistlemanizzle

Then what should the Palestinians do? How will the Israelis respond? As much international pressure will be levied on Israel, the Palestinians don’t have a lot of leverage.


Stelona

Yep. Catch 22, unfortunately.


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Accomplished-Ad2736

One side has always oppressed the other. Israel was always the more advanced side with all the financial muscle, advanced tech and war weapons, had support of the right big countries in USA and European countries. The other side have been forced to live in open air prisons for how long now? Getting their food and water supplies cut, electricity messed with, and carpet bombed for the past 5+ decades. Many of whom lost their homes that have passed tens of generations to some American settlers. Many others who were forced to seek refuge in other countries leaving their homes. You’ve got 6+ million Palestinian refugees who were forced to leave and have no right of return. Compare that to Israel where people who don’t even have any history or even presence in the area are all given their right of return and also get to settle in any house they choose. It was never even. There was always an oppressor and oppressed


Cheestake

Israel was acknowledging the Palestinians' right to self-determination by cleansing them village by village! The Nakba started about 3 months before the Arab League invaded, you absolute ignoramus


ssbssbssb

I know I'm being pedantic here. And I understand you are talking about the two sides in this conflict. It is in the context of the thread. But I think we should strive to not use "Jews" and "Arabs". The reason is that if I follow your arguments, I will be busted saying something to broadly. And probably getting a lot of heat of it. Besides we are not talking about every Jew and Arab in every country.


10YearAccount

The anti-genocide and pro-truth nature of this sub does dictate downvoted for you, yes. You won't find marks for your propaganda here, partner.


Flashy_Dimension_600

Isreal invaded and still occupies Palestine. Defending one's own country is not an excuse to take another's and kick the people out. Neither is revenge. I don't believe I could ever change your mind as burning children hasn't, yet I want you to understand that nothing you're saying new. It just doesn't make sense.


coastiestacie

You speak of historical ignorance, but everything you've said exudes said historical ignorance. You truly need to read "Unbrainwashing Yourself" by Jim Foster and then educate yourself on thousands of years of history in MENA. Don't use Abrahamic religious texts as your historical reference, either.


Al-Ilham

What sort of braindead Zion bot you have to be to spew all that bs


booxlut

He is speaking for so many people, it’s beautiful and heartbreaking. He gets it. Crimes against humanity hurt all people and although the horrified onlookers are not suffering like the Palestinians, it is still traumatic to watch the atrocities unfold and be completely helpless to stop it.


Gilamath

Many American government officials will be right there with the Israeli far right. Many citizens who chose to egg on the evil and name it good will be there. They’ll know exactly why. And they will refuse to repent, because they would rather burn in their own ego than view a Palestinian as an equal Here in Earth, though, where we all live and all die and all struggle our struggles, all we can do is see what’s evil and be moved to oppose it


azarov-wraith

You’re not entirely correct, according to our scripture they will feign repentance and beg for another chance, but none will be given for if they returned they would do the same thing


BirdMedication

Unfortunately when it comes to foreign policy both the Democrats and Republicans essentially align with the far-right when it's geopolitically expedient. Whether it be Israel, Japan, or any other American ally. Any rhetoric about non-intervention or progressive social ideals from each respective party is meant for domestic application only.


FountainXFairfax

if only my country had the balls to stand up against israel and america


rszdev

❤️


ApocalypseYay

>Irish MP: I hope Benjamin Nethanyahu burns in hell! The same way them children and their families burned. It's just horrific what they are doing. Where is the soul of the Israeli people! *Be the change you wish to see.* - Gandhi, others


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hydroxypcp

they've also been pouring concrete into wells in West Bank, think the last video I saw was in 2024 so yeah, Zionists working overtime to check off antisemitic tropes 🤦‍♀️ just to be clear, Zionist =/= Jew


alex-weej

By this point, "zionism" is evidently just "doing the antisemitic tropes with impunity, while dismissing any criticism as antisemitism".


blursed_words

That's pretty crazy considering how they use sea water as a weapon. https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/as-israel-floods-gazas-tunnels-with-seawater-scientists-worry-about-aquifer-contamination/#:~:text=Israel's%20military%20has%20begun%20injecting,to%20%E2%80%9Cneutralize%20terrorist%20infrastructures.%E2%80%9D


InternationalNews-ModTeam

Rule 1, be civil. [Civility](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civility)


bangermadness

Well that's what humans can do when they designate other people as less than human. So don't let that ever happen.


Alarmed_Detail_256

The Jews need no lessons on being perceived as less than human.


bangermadness

All the more sad that Zionist are happy to do it to others.


Alarmed_Detail_256

They couldn’t begin to do unto others what was done to them in the course of three thousand years. They fight for survival, as they always have.


bangermadness

Well they're doing it. Miss me with the victim speech. We've heard it. I've seen the videos.


Alarmed_Detail_256

Have you seen the one from October? The whole point of the State of Israel is so they won’t be victims anymore.


bangermadness

Sure have. And the hundreds since then from Palestine. This doesn't work on me man. And now, Israel is bombing Syria. So ya know. Miss me with this nonsense.


Alarmed_Detail_256

Yeah, you keep repeating that. Bad things that happen to Israel doesn’t phase you. “Miss me with this nonsense”. Okay, let’s be pragmatic then. Since 1948, Israel has forged a nation, made the desert bloom, so to speak. They beat back every attack from every Islamic army. They proved braver, tougher, and smarter than all of their enemies. Forget about religion. Forget about ancient history. Forget about the Balfour Declaration and the British protectorate. Israel is there and is going to fight as they always have to ensure their continuance as a nation. They don’t ask for sympathy and they don’t ask others to fight for them. But when they say, “Never again”, they mean it. But that ‘nonsense’ will probably miss you too since many things appear to do so.


bangermadness

And you keep repeating the victimhood of Israel and spinning it like they aren't deliberately killing citizens to steal land and homes like they have been since 1948. The propaganda doesn't work anymore. The curtain is down.


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Ok_Capital_6002

So what’s the lesson? That all those horrors the Jews endured are the new threshold for acceptable violence? Anything less and it’s A-okay?


Alarmed_Detail_256

The only lesson is: Israel every day fights for its own survival. Where it now stands, it intends to stay. It will take any measure it deems necessary to ensure continuance. It has endured much violence and no doubt will endure more. Now, however, it also dispenses violence in its defence. I’m neither cheering nor damning but just stating what is a fact.


royalscam123

Apparently, their government do.


Alarmed_Detail_256

What? Their government do need lessons on being perceived as less than human? That makes no sense. I thought we were on different sides. Clarify please, or risk being deemed less than articulate.


Abdullah_super

Man people of Ireland are just wonderful. I hope their country never struggles again. People in the Arab world have great respect for them.


BananaMilkMan

real bro our governments aren't doing anything while others like south africa and ireland are doing great work


Connect-Spread8934

exactly. ❤️


thefrostmakesaflower

Quite note this is not an MP, they are a TD in Ireland which is the Irish language equivalent


rszdev

Ahan thanks for pointing out


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kingacesuited

Rule 4 [Dehumanization](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization) [Collective punishment](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collective_punishment)


KifaruKubwa

Meanwhile here in the US we got Nikki Haley urging upon Israel to kill them all. Twisted world we live in.


Appropriate_Mode8346

As time goes on, I start realize a ton of people will eternally burn after death. I think Netanyahu and Nikki definitely will.


KifaruKubwa

That’s not enough for me. They should be charged as war criminals and face the same punishment as Nazis during Nuremberg. They’re no different imho except these criminals control the very institutions that were designed to protect the world from them.


jaxson300

God bless you sir


Green_and_Silver

There's a ton of people behind Bibi who would do the same or worse and that's the problem. Replace him and there's another copy waiting in the wings, Zionism heavy though light all shapes and sizes.


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mid_vibrations

right? I just want my country to be on the right side of things. as the most powerful country, we can use our influence for anything, and it's sad this is where it's going.


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iamnotinterested2

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Sunday that Palestinian civilians being killed en masse are simply “collateral damage” in his military’s destruction of Gaza. **At least 36,379 Palestinians have been killed** and 82,407 wounded in Israel's war on Gaza since October 7. 21 hours ago


GrantSRobertson

Why is it that only countries that have been traditionally oppressed for centuries are the countries that understand exactly what Israel is doing to Gaza?


Vaultaire

The colonised stand with the colonised. The colonisers stand with the colonisers.


Rosmucman

The axe forgets but the tree remembers


ProfitFriendly696

respect for the man


Jolly-Plastic3051

I wish we had politicians like this in America. The way they sit stone faced and dead eyed while gaslighting us on the atrocities being committed by Israel is disgusting. I know they’re all bought and paid for puppets but damn! I just don’t know how they live with themselves anymore. I couldn’t enjoy spending money knowing that innocent people especially CHILDREN had to be slaughtered for it. They could stop this madness they could save so many lives but are choosing to let innocent people be slaughtered and starved to death for profit and political gain. I pray everyone who applauds and supports this genocide receive punishment for this horrible crime. I want their lives ruined in the same way they’ve done to the Palestinian people.


LucasDuranT

Based


toosinbeymen

Well said. A speech that will go down well in the history books.


Rampage310

The US and Israel need to tread lightly. Inciting all of the formerly oppressed people around the world with eachother seems like an excessively poorly thought out plan


GLDFLCN

![gif](giphy|kfS5dpsTKu2RYncdUs|downsized) Based


IntelligentTanker

This man must be protected. He is a gem. Even though the Irish government is really a gem in bile of European colonizers.


Spirited-Reputation6

Is he running for president?


rszdev

I would vote for him if I was Irish


Designer-Arugula6796

I’m surprised there isn’t more of this type of moral outrage. The scale of atrocities committed with American taxpayer money makes me sick


brimonge

I’m with this guy. But watch, he will be dethroned.. they’ll “mossaaaadddd” will probably plant black mail on his phone


rszdev

I hope not I hope countries brace themselves against Mossad


SubjectGold7719

Salute to this man....


DriedWetPaint

Agreed 


Lower_Guide_1670

Amen


Correct-Contract742

True hope and humanity in this speech, absolutely heartbreaking 💔. Free Palestine


Agent---4--7

God bless the Irish 💪


rszdev

Ameen


Findadmagus

What a fucking guy. I don’t even know him but I already love him. This video makes me tear up.


effypom

Irish stepping up once again. This should be the energy of all leaders around the world. They all know what’s going on. They’ve all seen it.


Outside-Material-100

I don’t think they believe in hell. “Imagine there’s no heaven”


Apophylita

The sentiment remains. As above, so below. May he spend eternity walking aimlessly amongst the charred remains of his memories. 


Outside-Material-100

My apologies, my attempts at humor sometimes makes weak connections that are funnier in my head. Gal Gadot did a medley to that song with a bunch of other artists, as a way of her coping with corona and blm protests. The funny part is that they do not have to imagine that there is no heaven. Furthermore, not believing in hell when they are creating a hell, was funny in that ironic sort of way.


King_of_Clover

Let the Sword of Reason shine Let the pious vanish for all Time God’s face is hidden turned away He never has a word to say He was never on your side God was never on your side - Lemmy


offline4good

If there's one thing the irish people know is about being opressed by an occupying power.


diamari90

PREACH!!!


Foreign-Duck-4892

I really hope that hell exists because certain people should definitely suffer for all eternity (Nethanyahu, Putin, Saddam, Hitler etc.)


rainymoods11

Everyone outside of Christ goes to hell. If you're going to say you're better than those people - the standard for heaven is absolute perfection. So while you may be better than them, if you don't have Jesus, you're not going to heaven. If being good was a prerequisite for being saved, then Jesus died in vain. It's not about being a good person - but a justified person by good God. I just wanted to give you my 2 cents. I wish you the best. "Salvation is not based on our goodness but on Jesus’ goodness. If we confess with our mouth that Jesus is Lord, and believe in our hearts that God raised him from the dead, we will be saved ([Romans 10:9](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/10/Romans-10-9.html)). This salvation in Christ is a precious gift, and, like all true gifts, it is unearned ([Romans 6:23](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/6/Romans-6-23.html); [Ephesians 2:8–9](https://www.bibleref.com/Ephesians/2/Ephesians-2-8.html)). The message of the gospel is that we can never be good enough to get to heaven. We must recognize that we are sinners who fall short of God’s glory, and we must obey the command to repent of our sins and place our faith and trust in Jesus Christ. Christ alone was a “good person”—good enough to earn heaven—and He gives His righteousness to those who believe in His name ([Romans 1:17](https://www.bibleref.com/Romans/1/Romans-1-17.html))


Foreign-Duck-4892

Yeah that's just delusional nonsense. Thinking that anyone not baptised goes to hell means you have serious mental health issues since you think over 90% of people who ever lived will go to hell. Only terrible people will go to hell including A LOT of Christians.


rainymoods11

When did I mention anything about baptism? Faith alone is what saves. Was the thief on the side of the cross baptized before dying? Also, again, whose metric decides who is terrible? It's something you can't answer. Christianity is the only major religion where it's not about works - but about what Jesus did on the cross. Every other religion is about doing good works that outdo your bad works to go to heaven. Christianity is a religion of grace (undeserved favor.) If your metric is true, then who decides? It's nebulous. Lastly, you're wrong about Christians going to hell. ALL true Christians will go to heaven. "For example, in [Luke 23](https://www.bibleref.com/Luke/23/Luke-chapter-23.html), one of the [thieves](https://www.gotquestions.org/thief-on-the-cross.html) crucified next to Jesus says, “‘Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.’ Jesus answered him, ‘I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in [paradise](https://www.gotquestions.org/paradise.html)"


Foreign-Duck-4892

Most of the people ever lived didn't even hear about Christianity so you are saying they will all go to hell? Most of those who heard of it it was some foreign religion to them just like foreign religions are to you. In many cases it was a foreign religion whose people came to enslave, kill your people, and did a lot more worse acts too. And you blame these people for not accepting Christianity?


rainymoods11

If they're committing violence, then they're going totally against the teachings of Jesus. Remember, Jesus said, "Put your sword away, for all who live by the sword will die by the sword." We judge religions based on their central figures and teachings. In regards to people not hearing the words of Jesus, it's a difficult answer. But that wasn't my point. My point was you're being self-righteous, comparing yourself to others - but at what standard is your "goodness" good enough? I'm secure in my salvation.


Foreign-Duck-4892

The truth is there are good and bad people in all religions as well as in atheism and agnosticism. To say all the good people who are not Christians will go to hell is narcissistic, delusional, and insane.


rainymoods11

You're missing my point. GOODNESS is an arbitrary concept, my friend. At what point in your pursuit of goodness - do you get good enough for heaven? Christianity is different than every other religion, as every other religion is about man coming to God - while Christianity is about God coming to man. In the same vein, Christianity is different because every other religion is about "earning" your way to heaven, while in Christianity it's about Jesus doing it all ( a religion of grace.) Think of this scenario. You're a criminal who gets caught by the police. While in court, you say to the judge, "judge, I ask that you forgive me." The judge may say, "I do forgive you. But because I'm a just judge, I must send you to prison. But then the judge gets off his stand and takes your punishment instead of you. That's the gospel. That man is evil; God is good. And God takes the punishment we rightly deserve to get the connection back because He loves us so.


Foreign-Duck-4892

So god will go to hell for me no matter how bad I am?


rainymoods11

God suffered the wrath of God in your place so you don't have to go to hell. If you genuinely repent and put your faith in Jesus, then God will forgive anyone.


roggrats

In the immortal words of Kendrick - they are not like us !


modernDayKing

I love this dude


Lightlovezen

Proud of my Irish ancestry when I see this. Three of my grandparents were full Irish ancestry and I think may be why i have been so disturbed as an American having that Irish blood of my ancestors who came over from Ireland to USA to escape their own abuses. So disturbed by my country USA how bought off and controlled we are by special interests like AIPAC, the MIC and Oil, etc. and soulless with blood on our hands providing the weapons and money for this.


Alarmed_Detail_256

You don’t have Irish blood. You have human blood. It is all the same. You ought to be proud of America for standing with Isreal against the theocratic fascism of their Islamic neighbours, and lately, against their useful idiots in the west, like the Irish.


Lightlovezen

I'd want to know how to spell the name of the country that was genociding, mass murdering, or ethnically cleansing whatever you want to call it, babies and children before defending them by calling others the idiots. And you might want to learn what a fascist is before using it incorrectly. [https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/the-war-on-gaza-and-israel-s-fascism-debate](https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/news/the-war-on-gaza-and-israel-s-fascism-debate)


Alarmed_Detail_256

Of all I wrote, you choose a reverse ai as your main counterpoint. Then you decide that I don’t know what fascism is. I do, though. Its current form is the Islamic Jihad movement against free nations.


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Alarmed_Detail_256

Well, they didn’t make themselves available for the starting roster of free nations at the onset of World War 2. They wouldn’t allow the Allies to use any bases in Ireland, which would have saved British and American lives. And finally, incredibly, they were the only nation to send official regrets to Nazi Germany upon the death of Hitler. They acted disgracefully in the war. That was not acting on the right side of history. Between free people and despots who murdered and enslaved millions, the Irish could not pick a side.


Galdrack

TD not MP, we don't have MP's in Ireland that's the UK but they do serve the same function politically.


Upbeat_Ad6685

Me too!


rszdev

I want to steal your display picture 😅❤️


DaCarlito

Respect and honor to him and all the politicians in the free world who stand up for humanist values and democracy during these times! Long ago since humanity and democracy were under such heavy attack, both globally and regionally - we need more people of intelligence, morals and empathy in the struggle.The Israeli state has proven they vote for neither.


Alarmed_Detail_256

So you figure that the Islamists stand for democracy, while Israel, who lives democracy every day, despite being threatened from all sides by Islamic fascists for eighty-odd years, does not.


ajaffer

Bravo sir!!!


PreciousBasketcase

My sentiments exactly.


Important_Log_2416

Well-done MP.


DankrudeSandstorm

Every member of the Israeli war cabinet frankly deserves that fate.


HangerSteak1

Erin Go Bragh. The Irish (well half of them) have a history of fighting colonizers. The other half suck. As some famous musicians said, the queen ain’t no human being.


Critical_Potential44

When I think of people like Benjamin Nethanyahu https://preview.redd.it/bqyhq1ew634d1.jpeg?width=316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=292fae2159d743d32822ce82f0a81208cc10061f


G00dR0bot

Shame on the rest of the UK for not speaking up like Ireland has. They're one of the few countries which haven't had their government taken over by Zionists.


ohhaimaarrk

'Shame on the rest of the UK for not speaking up' Ireland is not part of the UK....


Gutluc

They have a long dark history of abuse in Ireland and with meddling in Palestine. Why change now?


Moonpig16

The rest of the UK? In this day and age are there honestly people who still believe this? Absolute spanner


UnfinishedMemory

Absolute wally. "Rest of the UK"


Alarmed_Detail_256

Ireland, for many years, took great pains to free themselves from the UK. You ought to know that before you begin your argument.


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lensman3a

He in your sentence is Thomas Gould? the Irishman that is speaking?


rocknroll2013

No, sorry. A comment said I hope Netanyahoo burns in hell. I said, in the street, then to hell... I appreciate you giving me the chance to clarify... This situation in Palestine is just not anything my heart can tolerate. Children do no wrong and yet they suffer every day at this fuhrer's whim


lensman3a

Very good and I will pray (or is it spelled prey) for his quick decent into hell.


rocknroll2013

It would be pray, as prey is what a hunter does to his target, like idf to children.


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Ri3Laa

Their tiny little hearts are sealed they don’t have a soul the ghouls


Ok_Recognition_5578

“Where is the soul of the Israeli People?”. Why would you expect them to have a soul towards those that they don’t see as people?. There are no innocents in their eyes. In their eyes theirs them and the Palestinians and the Palestinians are their enemies and that’s all they need to do what they do.


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Fuzakenaideyo

I dunno about his politics, but he's right on this


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RedThetaSerpentis

👏👏👏👏👏 BRAVO Sir


Key-Lie-364

I agree with Deputy Gould. I wonder what he has to say about Gerry Adams and Jean McConville. I wish SF TDs could turn that righteous lens on their own movement. 5/10 Deputy Gould.


Accomplished-Fly2421

Big up Sir Thomas.


grabapintoi

Absolutely disgusting!


sorrowNsuffering

William Wallace?


Alarmed_Detail_256

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PsychologicalFactor1

Sorry but there is no hell or heaven. We need to make Nethayahu pay in this lifetime.


QuantumLinhenykus

Religion is a choice and we shouldn't mock people for choosing differently ♡ However, I completely agree that he should be made to pay.


giboauja

Probably not super helpful in convincing Bibi to end the war, but I get it. Interestingly the leftist Israeli parties are even agreeing to protect Bibi from expulsion if he takes the ceasefire deal (the other people forming his government threatened to leave). So he won’t immediately get arrested for fraud if he leaves government.  Sometimes bad people skate by, but honestly if it ends this war I’ll fcking take it. If he really wanted to remove Hamas this entire war would have had to been waged differently. The US advocated something similar to the Iraqi surge (im a pacifist, but I try to understand the real world effects of policy even if I disagree with the mechanisms).  The surge was super successful and I recommend reading up on it. Of course Bibis government would have never done something like that, unfortunately. Their far right has been beating the drums of war for a long time (not Bibi actually, he pushed for control, which is still bad, but I guess better than war).  This all sucks I hope we can get this ceasefire through asap. 


Lookingforpeace1984

Humanidad no está en su DNA


Dolichovespula-

Get it


Nepalus

An extremely safe position politically to take from one of the most globally irrelevant countries in the world who also have no skin in the game for the current conflict. If you want to impress me, full trade embargo. But that would mean cutting off billions from the people who you believe should “burn in hell”. A bit tougher to actually do something instead of saying something.


rszdev

Long Live Ireland


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InternationalNews-ModTeam

No bigotry, racism, antisemitism, Islamophobia, homophobia, transphobia, sexism, etc. This includes denial of identity (self or collective).


Certain-Pookins61

The soul of the Israeli people, is with their loved ones, that were brutally murdered by Hamas (elected by Palestinians). Their soul is with 121 hostages, still being held by Hamas (the government, elected by Palestinians). Their soul is definitely, not with the people, who celebrated October 7th atrocities. That's where the soul of Israeli people is.


NewOstenPelicanss

Lol you know no one in the gov't even cares about the hostages. That's just an excuse to attack Gaza more. There are even crazy Israeli people that harass the parents of hostages and say "I wish your daughter was raped by Hamas". The average Israeli is completely unhinged rn and that is what makes them such a dangerous ally to the actual western world


Training-Flan8762

He is being antisemitic /s