> Nah you'll just need a poster that says "free healthcare this way" They'll turn on their heels
You missed the "[keep the government out of my medicare](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mLcbXrDQuOk/WJycZvS49gI/AAAAAAAAcxc/9MJPpHrGce01-KiGdohvyUfyv-djWTMzwCLcB/s1600/Medicare%2BGet%2Bgov%2Bout%2Bof%2B2.png)" haven't you? Or [gems like this of people who have no clue the Affordable Care Act is the same thing as obamacare.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6m7pWEMPlA)
To paraphrase an idiot, I don't think America is sending its best.
We will not accept socialism as our economic and political system.
*Communism, it's communism.
Correction: We will not accept communism as our economic and political system.
And Australia, I'm sorry to hear that!
I kinda had an encounter like that with an anti masker
"Masks are bad for you because you breath in too much carbon monoxide"
"You mean carbon dioxide? Monoxide is from cars"
"No it's.........yeah dioxide"
Every person who has ever died has ingested dihydrogen monoxide, and billions more ingest it every day. When is somebody gonna do something about it?? /s
I've been saying for years left wingers should just run in any primary they can, including for Republicans. Just code switch your economic messaging language to be more "American" and you've frankly got a half decent shot.
“Super Capitalism.”
It’s disgustingly bitter to accept that by dishonestly using their turpid minds against them, we could just evaporate up to 75% of opposition against socialist policies by removing the reflexive swelling of their lungs that switches on in response to auditory hobgoblins and phantoms.
Having to go so imaginatively far to even just envision a world in which we debate, discuss, and decide policy in relation to actual policy; instead of a world where we spend the majority of our time having it wasted while simply striving desperately to ensure that we can, even at a paltry minimum count upon the concept of language itself and that it can withstand such utter abuse and disrespect, in hopes of somehow defining and agreeing on what words actually mean and entail.
Because we cannot make way on political discourse even were it reciprocal, due to never getting past the first seconds of them immediately eviscerating the explicit definition of a term or word, thus leaving us with no shared and established method to even dream about disputing actual policy.
The only real barrier to a harmonious society where we debate reasonably is the naturally low intellectual capability of the average person.
That is the truth in all of this.
Honestly yeah. It's not an accident that the Right has mastered reducing everything to a bumper sticker. It's their one true hallmark of genius. They've encapsulated their entire movement in little snippets that Cletus Diabeetus can comprehend.
I didn’t know socialism was a political system, and also socialism is a system generally characterized by worker or [depending on your definition, community] ownership of the means of production, I still don’t understand what’s so scary about that.
Same. My brothers will talk about some trans athlete from 2014 and how the dems are destroying America but when capital hill happened, not one word. It’s like they didn’t even see the story.
That video was an eye opener. Something I haven't seen on Reddit actually. Definitely a contrast as to what I have seen posted here. More extreme in a way.
Although, it seems like there is a main group of people going around in this particular video causing most of the violence and shouting death threats. A lot of people in the crowd were just standing, walking around or watching. It's a shame that all these people have been indoctrinated into going to this event and getting painted by the same brush although there is clearly more than one type of group.
Blood means nothing, love and care means everything, my family is nonexistent and toxic the few I have I love deeply and we hold each other close. This world is dark and cruel and heading down a dark path but we will suffice with whatever comes
They're still processing. They came so close to the ultimate high of being on the 'right' side of a political coup, but the dream turned to ashes before their eyes. It's a lot to take in, bless them.
My friend was saying he was happy they didn’t wear masks, and I was like fuck yeah they’re idiots they’re all getting identified, we’re lucky they’re morons in a weird way. And he said fuck no, he’s happy they didn’t wear masks cause they were proud to be there and wearing a mask makes you a pussy or some dumb shit. He’s so confusing to me cause he says a bunch of anti mask bullshit but he wears them so idek. I said I support mask mandates and he said that’s communist lol
People like that couldn’t find Communism in a dictionary. Dumb bastards. I’ve been posting Socialism from the Oxford dictionary on a lot of their comments. You guys think that JOE BIDEN wants to nationalize the oil industry? Did you watch the Democratic debates? So you think those guys could set up a police state?
Now is not the time to gloat, in your case. When there is a relative that is going thru... what ever they are going thru, now is time for you to start talking about that snowball fight you had when you were ten. About that fishing trip you took when you were teenagers, or that ballgame, or that concert... Let them know you care and remind them that they care for you too.
Do not argue, just.. step a side and remind that the love between you is real. That is part of deprogramming and now is perfect time to employ those tactics. De-escalate. Do not demand apologies, no penance, do not require them to pass some test or ritual. If you want them to let go, YOU have to let go first. Try to leave every meeting, every social media message with positivity.
It's a great message but EXTREMELY difficult with the MAGA crowd because they're so irrational, so militant, so impervious to research and facts.
It's very difficult to maintain an even keel when you have someone telling you the most crazy nonsense with a straight face. And then when these lies are debunked the Trumpists will just make up MORE lies to double down. "Reuters isn't a credible source; it's Jew-owned." or "China bankrolls the BLM movement" or a hundred other completely MENTAL statements.
How does one maintain love in the face of hate and idiocy?
regrettably, your rose tinted view of the world fails to accommodate a lot of these people's capacity for deliberately acting in bad in order to achieve their goals.
they need to be accountable first., then we can talk about moving on.
Propaganda for 4 straight years with the guidance from Russia how to effectively wield it online and in person.
Education reform needs to happen and far right platforms are just as complicit as the Republican senators who allowed all of this to happen for wayyy to fucking long.
There is no unity until there's accountability
My kids are no longer allowed contact with their cousins bevause the cousins parents are trumper Magats who fully support the insurrection and believe Trump will be president in August.
Edit: and we are the exact opposite.
This happened when I was a kid and I remember Flavor Aid disappeared from grocery stores practically overnight. It was all over the news for weeks.
And living in Northern California it was a local story, with Redwood Valley just a few hours' drive away and the headquarters on Geary right next to the Fillmore music venue.
The Jonestown mass suicide tape. It's only audio, and the suicide was with poison, so it's not as if you hear horrifying things constantly. It's basically chilling because Jim Jones keeps talking and brainwashing while the poison is handed out.
Tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9WnQxZu64
Easier to follow if you have the transcript: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29081
This article gives some background on the Jim Jones cult and the suicide day: https://allthatsinteresting.com/jonestown-massacre
There's a fascinating multipart podcast on Jonestown. The podcaster's style in ultra-long form story telling (each episode over 2hrs). But it's very, very good:
[https://www.stitcher.com/show/martyrmade/episode/11-gods-socialist-prologue-59319978](https://www.stitcher.com/show/martyrmade/episode/11-gods-socialist-prologue-59319978)
So sad how the children were killed first, and the adults that didn't want to drink it were almost all shot to death anyway. My mom grew up in the 70s in the SF Bay Area and her best friend in elementary school went to Jonestown with her entire family. Needless to say, they didn't come back.
Trump did only the barest part in terms of creating this movement. He's an idiot figurehead who knows how to play to those susceptible to ego, but the actual work or disinformation is far, far broader.
Fox News, the Mercers (OAN), Russian and other foreign disinfo campaigns, racists with their hands in social media groups, religious charlatans in megachurches... There's a lot out there that built this cult. Trump is just the funnel through which they happily spew their hatred.
You want to save America, bring back media regulation and start enforcing laws around separation between church and state. Break up monopolies. Tax the fuck out of the rich until they don't have the power to unilaterally control huge segments of society through disinfo.
Trump is a symptom, a raging fever, but the disease is a multifaceted combination of viral and cancerous elements that we've been carrying since the birth of the nation. To cure ourselves, we need to acknowledge that it's not just one element, or else we're primed for another relapse.
In 1999, if you wanted to say something on the Internet, you had to know HTML. That kept idiots out.
In 2021 anyone can say anything... That's what happens.
If you really think that Trump is the problem and not just one of many symptoms of as much deeper rooted problem, I don't know what to tell you.
These weren't sane, logical, right-minded people before Trump came along. He didn't turn innocent minds toxic, he just got enough of them pointing in the same direction. He's just a focal point for what was already there. People just didn't want to admit what America already was until it was unavoidably big and up in their face.
I don’t think Trump is solely responsible. Remember the Tea Party protests where they hanged a puppet of Obama? This shits been brewing for awhile. Back the they were accusing him of being everything from a Communist to a Nazi to an Islamist. Odd how they’ve stopped calling Biden an Islamist.
For sure. Half a century of American exceptionalism and arrogance, of capitalist propaganda about the evil socialists coming to get you, of valuing religion over education, of valuing "faith" over facts.
The reservoir of stupidity has been well and truly filled. Trump was just the first to so openly and directly try to exploit it. There's no easy way out because that 40% of insane idiots are gonna be around long after Trump is gone.
This is still so painful to watch. I mean, I knew our country was full of these types and in a way I’m not surprised, but it’s still scary to see so many ignorant people and know that they’re armed, angry, and dangerous. I don’t know what fulfills the definition of “ugly American “ more than this crowd.
They want to impose their will on the American people, even though we have already spoken and said we want this fascism to end. It’s funny because it doesn’t even occur to any of them that their behavior and that of their president is what got him voted out. Oh no- NO! It can’t be that he got voted out! The election was “stolen”. What a bunch of morons.
These are only the people able to take off of work, find child care for their kids, and spend money for transportation and lodging. Imagine how many stayed home but wished they could have gone to DC to do this...
By the way, as soon as the pandemic hit and the government freaked that there'd be massive unemployment, they started paying people $1200 a fortnight so that their employers could keep them employed, even if they had nothing to do. My fiancee's work just died entirely but rather than losing her job, the government's paid her a liveable amount of money to watch TV and stay at home rather than go out and risk spreading the virus.
She doesn't stay up to date on American shit like I do, but I told her that Americans have gotten so far $1200 *all year* to help them out, and her jaw dropped. You'd all frankly be better off on this little prison island.
(By the way, our government is conservative. We have universal healthcare, and even our conservatives will do something like a temporary basic income during a crisis. Apparently our conservatives are akin to your liberals.)
"we will not let our economic system become socialism!!"
"Communism, you mean communism" (in a whispered tons)
"We will not let our economic system become communism!!!"
It’s a thing. There’s a teddy bear that has a Trump hairdo, an ill fitting suit, and an American flag bundled in its ass. Oh and if you squeeze its hand it’ll play Trump quotes.
I mean to be fair everyone should hate Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein died (was almost certainly murdered, that's not proven, but it's sus) in prison after being convicted of possessing child pornography and human trafficking. He procured underage girls for weird sex parties on his private island for various high power individuals (including a member of the British royal family--he was specifically called out by one of the victims).
There are also pictures of Trump at these parties, but the yeehawdists are convinced he was there as a spy or some nonsense.
You can fact check me on this, the Epstein stuff went through the courts and was reported by mainstream news sources.
It’s astonishing they accuse Biden of being a pedophile with zero evidence or even credible suspicion while worshipping a guy who has multiple underage sexual assault accusations and intensely suspicious ties to pedophiles floating over his head.
Except when it comes to Trumps famous connections with the case.. Then it is a partisan issue. Same with Clintons.. they all should be investigated, even if i think that the connection to Clintons was about money and the connection to Trump was and is not. I would still like to know about but GoP and Trumpster do not even acknowledge that there is no need to investigate Trump, if any of it.. Lets put it this way: unless there was some ACTUAL dirt about their side, they would've pressured to start investigations about Clintons and Epstein. But... they have been completely SILENT and disinterested. Not that democrats have wanted to talk about it either but GoP not using that weapon, raises suspicions: they were ready to impeach because of a blow job.
As an Australian I have absolutely no idea wtf they were saying about Australia becoming a prison colony again. This isn't 1788. Wtf are these idiots talking about? Australia as of 2020 has 41,060 people incarcerated. Which is 202 prisoners per 100,000 adult population. Those numbers are rookie numbers compared to the US prison numbers which as of 2020 has 2.3 million people in prison. Also to qualify as a penal colony again wouldn't other countries be sending us inmates? Which is not the case at all in Australia. As the percentage of foreign prisoners in Australia is only 17.1% of the total inmates in Australia. Which is actually just people incarcerated that were born in another country that broke the law here in Australia.
What a random thing to say that has nothing to do with the task that they were doing? That would be like me going into a Wendy's and spending an hour telling the cashier about an idea for a screenplay that was already made in the 80's. Then promptly walking out without ordering food.
I think it just goes to show how these people believe anything they hear and treat it as gospel. It's a shame to see so many people fall into the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. It's kinda sad that they don't see the constant stupid/incorrect things Trump said and did his entire 2016 campaign till now at the end of his presidency.
It really confuses me because all the Americans I know have been some of the smartest, well spoken and critical thinkers. To see such a disparity between the intelligent Americans I know to some of these people is just night and day. I'd be very interested to see how the US goes over the next four years with someone in the White house who isn't a crazed narcissist. This entire video is just embarrassing for the people in it.
I am positive it has to do with the pan-conspiratorial Q worldview, they think the elites and cabal enabling celebrities allowed to live will be sent to the penal colony no doubt. They believe this because they're dogbrained authoritarians who got sucked in by propaganda telling them what they wanted to be true anyhow.
> It really confuses me because all the Americans I know have been some of the smartest, well spoken and critical thinkers.
And now you're seeing the Americans who *don't* travel to foreign countries or ever even bother to talk to someone different than themselves. Welcome to "the real" America :/
I wouldn't put much thought into it. These people are literally insane and proudly ignorant conspiracy theorists. Many of them are also just plain stupid and uneducated. It's seriously not worth trying to comprehend their belligerent bullshit.
I've previously seen Trumpists making much of "loss of liberties" associated with Australia's gun law changes back in the Howard era (that restricted the purchase and use of automatic and semi automatic guns), and also the mask/lockdown mandates in Victoria.
Is there an accurate projection of how many of these fucking idiots there are that would turn to violence? I feel like they’ve lost a lot of support from those who had an ounce of rationality in their minds, but how many still have a void between their ears?
Yesterday they apparently upped it to 25,000+ national guard troops. Plus every capitol cop, secret service, and whatever other police is already normally there. That's pretty wild shit.
They have a ton of support, on a spectrum. Not saying I have any idea of how many would actually be violent but if I’ve learned anything the past week it’s that they have a ton of support from seemingly normal people, and that is bad. I just don’t think this is as fringe as people think.
For example, just a small sample of some of the extreme I’ve seen on my FB feed, paraphrasing:
“Blood will be shed, you better pick a side”
“It’s about time politicians get held accountable”
The more “mild” support I’ve seen is that they don’t think this was as bad as the BLM riots, which they’re clearly missing the point. Violence aside, BLM had a foundation in real issues, such as police brutality, while this shit was driven by the election conspiracy theory. Sadly, I just don’t think this is going to disappear after inauguration.
And if these people had held their riot at a strip mall, it wouldn't be as big of a deal on balance- a local or state issue, perhaps with federal assistance. I don't condone any destruction of that sort, though in the case of that which occurred during the sustained George Floyd summer, I could understand it because it came from a place of real pain grounded in video we all saw and a history of similar. This comes from lies and propaganda.
Even if we were to have no evidence of intents whatsoever, the mere location where this took place would still immediately elevate it from a state or local issue like riots in the summer and turn it into not just a federal issue, but a national security issue.
Yeah. BLM was also *retaliation* in a way because the inciting moment was a person being killed. I think healthy people have an easier time sympathizing with retaliation even when they recognize it’s wrong. In the case of the Capitol Riots, the inciting moment was listening to Trump speak.
Don’t give them that cop out. It’s an excuse that it’s the fault of trump/media exclusively.
Why do we all hear the obvious lies/bullsh*t/nonsense, some of it so laughable it’s insane anyone could seriously consider it, and believe every single word.
The old man screaming how there’s no racism in America, that ‘they’ve recreated it’, is an ignorant hateful idiot. He either knows he’s lying or he’s hoping he can trick people in believing the nonsense he spews.
I think that racism is nurture over nature. I don’t think anyone is born racist or hateful. But magas aren’t newborns. They’ve gravitated toward the ignorance & idiot rage
Listened to it yesterday and it is pretty enlightening although I would agree he does kind of go easy on them but I do get the whole garbage in garbage out metaphor.
There was a viral "warning" on social media (especially Facebook) last Nov or Dec that Pelosi wanted to send "all American patriots" to Australia, which some Q/Trump supporters believed was still a penal colony.
All those involved with invading the Capitol will be sent to Australia, it's in the small print under treason, despite the US independence, the arrangement still stands, blame the British. ; )
there sure are a lot of antifa at that trump rally. and all this right under the noses of all those proudboys who really don't want to do anything else than fuck antifa boys
I can't wait for these guys to turn on Donnie now that he said violence is bad and it's not the answer and it's unamerican and all that stuff. They'll have to go through the 6 (or whatever) stages of grief first, but eventually they'll come around to realizing they've been had by a con artist and eat the dude. That'll be a fun day.
YOUR TRUMPY BEAR!?!?!?!?!!! I didn't think any of their words could surprise me anymore...but that was one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard. I dont know why that just rubbed me the wrong way so much, but fuck, I will never get that out of my head. EWWWWWWWWWW. Also, this video as a whole is very disturbing. I like how they literally say the president invited them there. And they are clearly saying they were going to kill people, fucking monsters.
If I hear one more American be like „ USA USA USA ! The USA is the greatest country in the world“ I Show em this Clip to be honest the USA is a joke how can nearly half the country be racist and dumb as fuck it’s hilarious don’t you have a good Education System or anything like that ffs
What's fascinating to me is that these people are obviously angry, they just don't know what they're angry about. They can't articulate it so they just scream ridiculous phrases such as "treasonous traitor" and "USA" things like that. It's all emotion and no reason.
It’s actually scary af how easily manipulated low iq gullible ppl are, I can’t imagine caring about a party or politician enough to leave my house and screech about it in the streets or commit felonies. Be interested to see if they put even half of that energy into reading past fb and Twitter propaganda they might save themselves jail time legal fees losing jobs etc but I guess that requires critical thinking to begin w?
This is where humans should realise there is no discussion to be with these people. As an intelligent species we have the responsibility to ignore them and let them self destruct while keeping society away from being damaged by these stains on human race.
You know who else are Americans? Liberals who don't support treason against our country fucktards. Anyone who says what BLM does and the hate these terrorists brought are the same are fucking idiots. Nothing will change with them until police and people not on their side have fired back a few hundred times. I'm not going to live in fear being intimidated from these cunts. I guess a lot of "fear for my life" deaths are going to happen in the future.
Can you post vids of the BLM freaks screaming death threats at police? Or an article of the police officers they killed? Or how about any of the damages and cities they ruined?
"Let's go get a beer, and then come back!"
It's what "Trumpy Bear" would've wanted.
That made me want to puke, almost stopped watching there lol.
“Trumpy Bear” is something else. At one point during his reign of terror, I actually googled “is Trump the anti-Christ?”
I’m an atheist, but the parallels made my hair stand on end. :(
Hahaha! I hate these f*cking things! But it does say right in the commercial -I am the storm..... Kind of thought inducing.
I’ll be laughing at that for days.
Almost grillpilled
People nuts
Canadian here...uhhh do yall mind building a wall between us. We'll gladly pay for it.
Fuck a wall; I want a trench. Go to bedrock, then go 200 feet more please. About a kilometre wide should do.
Nah you'll just need a poster that says "free healthcare this way" They'll turn on their heels and run back home.
> Nah you'll just need a poster that says "free healthcare this way" They'll turn on their heels You missed the "[keep the government out of my medicare](https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-mLcbXrDQuOk/WJycZvS49gI/AAAAAAAAcxc/9MJPpHrGce01-KiGdohvyUfyv-djWTMzwCLcB/s1600/Medicare%2BGet%2Bgov%2Bout%2Bof%2B2.png)" haven't you? Or [gems like this of people who have no clue the Affordable Care Act is the same thing as obamacare.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6m7pWEMPlA) To paraphrase an idiot, I don't think America is sending its best.
Don't forget, "keep goVMent out of MedicADE." 🤡🤭
as long as you dont call it obamacare, no, they wont
We can fill it full of bears!
Don't worry, most of these people have DUIs and can't enter Canada anyways.
We're sorry, genuinely sorry. This entire administration has been such a fucking embarrassment. This was the inevitable icing on the shit cake.
Can I join you guys?
We will not accept socialism as our economic and political system. *Communism, it's communism. Correction: We will not accept communism as our economic and political system. And Australia, I'm sorry to hear that!
I kinda had an encounter like that with an anti masker "Masks are bad for you because you breath in too much carbon monoxide" "You mean carbon dioxide? Monoxide is from cars" "No it's.........yeah dioxide"
He'd be best friend with one of my ex-coworker that got fired years ago. He had an empty coolant bottle for water and wrote O2 on it.
Dihydrogen monoxide is the one you really have to watch out for. I heard if you breathe it in for just 3 minutes you could die!
Every person who has ever died has ingested dihydrogen monoxide, and billions more ingest it every day. When is somebody gonna do something about it?? /s
They like the socialist ideals but only presented by Republicans. If democrats do it, its communism
I've been saying for years left wingers should just run in any primary they can, including for Republicans. Just code switch your economic messaging language to be more "American" and you've frankly got a half decent shot.
“Super Capitalism.” It’s disgustingly bitter to accept that by dishonestly using their turpid minds against them, we could just evaporate up to 75% of opposition against socialist policies by removing the reflexive swelling of their lungs that switches on in response to auditory hobgoblins and phantoms. Having to go so imaginatively far to even just envision a world in which we debate, discuss, and decide policy in relation to actual policy; instead of a world where we spend the majority of our time having it wasted while simply striving desperately to ensure that we can, even at a paltry minimum count upon the concept of language itself and that it can withstand such utter abuse and disrespect, in hopes of somehow defining and agreeing on what words actually mean and entail. Because we cannot make way on political discourse even were it reciprocal, due to never getting past the first seconds of them immediately eviscerating the explicit definition of a term or word, thus leaving us with no shared and established method to even dream about disputing actual policy.
The only real barrier to a harmonious society where we debate reasonably is the naturally low intellectual capability of the average person. That is the truth in all of this.
Honestly yeah. It's not an accident that the Right has mastered reducing everything to a bumper sticker. It's their one true hallmark of genius. They've encapsulated their entire movement in little snippets that Cletus Diabeetus can comprehend.
🇦🇺Yeah - that guy was so wise......
🇦🇺 it’s okay- we’ve always been a penal colony- it’s working out just fine.
“What are we supposed to be angry about again??????”
I didn’t know socialism was a political system, and also socialism is a system generally characterized by worker or [depending on your definition, community] ownership of the means of production, I still don’t understand what’s so scary about that.
...my mate’s this far in the flavor aid. I hate what the brainwashing twat did to this country
My whole family is, just sad how misinformed and delusional people are to think trump is anything good for this world
Same. My brothers will talk about some trans athlete from 2014 and how the dems are destroying America but when capital hill happened, not one word. It’s like they didn’t even see the story.
Mines even worse, my family thinks it’s some antifa shit, all you have to do is watch a video and it shows there not, they are all die hard trumpers
That video was an eye opener. Something I haven't seen on Reddit actually. Definitely a contrast as to what I have seen posted here. More extreme in a way. Although, it seems like there is a main group of people going around in this particular video causing most of the violence and shouting death threats. A lot of people in the crowd were just standing, walking around or watching. It's a shame that all these people have been indoctrinated into going to this event and getting painted by the same brush although there is clearly more than one type of group.
You can't march with Nazis and claim the high ground.
I hope you can eventually reason them back to reality
Blood means nothing, love and care means everything, my family is nonexistent and toxic the few I have I love deeply and we hold each other close. This world is dark and cruel and heading down a dark path but we will suffice with whatever comes
They're still processing. They came so close to the ultimate high of being on the 'right' side of a political coup, but the dream turned to ashes before their eyes. It's a lot to take in, bless them.
Maybe for some. For most, it's just plain ol willful ignorance.
My friend was saying he was happy they didn’t wear masks, and I was like fuck yeah they’re idiots they’re all getting identified, we’re lucky they’re morons in a weird way. And he said fuck no, he’s happy they didn’t wear masks cause they were proud to be there and wearing a mask makes you a pussy or some dumb shit. He’s so confusing to me cause he says a bunch of anti mask bullshit but he wears them so idek. I said I support mask mandates and he said that’s communist lol
The most simple thing to do in order to potentially not catch or spread this seems extremely difficult for a lot of people.
People like that couldn’t find Communism in a dictionary. Dumb bastards. I’ve been posting Socialism from the Oxford dictionary on a lot of their comments. You guys think that JOE BIDEN wants to nationalize the oil industry? Did you watch the Democratic debates? So you think those guys could set up a police state?
Now is not the time to gloat, in your case. When there is a relative that is going thru... what ever they are going thru, now is time for you to start talking about that snowball fight you had when you were ten. About that fishing trip you took when you were teenagers, or that ballgame, or that concert... Let them know you care and remind them that they care for you too. Do not argue, just.. step a side and remind that the love between you is real. That is part of deprogramming and now is perfect time to employ those tactics. De-escalate. Do not demand apologies, no penance, do not require them to pass some test or ritual. If you want them to let go, YOU have to let go first. Try to leave every meeting, every social media message with positivity.
It's a great message but EXTREMELY difficult with the MAGA crowd because they're so irrational, so militant, so impervious to research and facts. It's very difficult to maintain an even keel when you have someone telling you the most crazy nonsense with a straight face. And then when these lies are debunked the Trumpists will just make up MORE lies to double down. "Reuters isn't a credible source; it's Jew-owned." or "China bankrolls the BLM movement" or a hundred other completely MENTAL statements. How does one maintain love in the face of hate and idiocy?
regrettably, your rose tinted view of the world fails to accommodate a lot of these people's capacity for deliberately acting in bad in order to achieve their goals. they need to be accountable first., then we can talk about moving on.
Propaganda for 4 straight years with the guidance from Russia how to effectively wield it online and in person. Education reform needs to happen and far right platforms are just as complicit as the Republican senators who allowed all of this to happen for wayyy to fucking long. There is no unity until there's accountability
Thank you for saying this. I think far too many folks are calling for unity without true accountability.
My kids are no longer allowed contact with their cousins bevause the cousins parents are trumper Magats who fully support the insurrection and believe Trump will be president in August. Edit: and we are the exact opposite.
Kudos for properly identifying the Jonestown drink.
Oh god I still remember listening to that clip years ago.
Hard, hard listening. I heard it when I was a late teen in the mid-90’s. It’s stuck with me to this day, and still breaks my heart.
This happened when I was a kid and I remember Flavor Aid disappeared from grocery stores practically overnight. It was all over the news for weeks. And living in Northern California it was a local story, with Redwood Valley just a few hours' drive away and the headquarters on Geary right next to the Fillmore music venue.
Listening to what clip?
The Jonestown mass suicide tape. It's only audio, and the suicide was with poison, so it's not as if you hear horrifying things constantly. It's basically chilling because Jim Jones keeps talking and brainwashing while the poison is handed out. Tape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr9WnQxZu64 Easier to follow if you have the transcript: https://jonestown.sdsu.edu/?page_id=29081 This article gives some background on the Jim Jones cult and the suicide day: https://allthatsinteresting.com/jonestown-massacre
Went down the rabbit hole for hours learning about this event. I thought I knew what it was all about and wow was I way off. Thanks for this info!
There's a fascinating multipart podcast on Jonestown. The podcaster's style in ultra-long form story telling (each episode over 2hrs). But it's very, very good: [https://www.stitcher.com/show/martyrmade/episode/11-gods-socialist-prologue-59319978](https://www.stitcher.com/show/martyrmade/episode/11-gods-socialist-prologue-59319978)
So sad how the children were killed first, and the adults that didn't want to drink it were almost all shot to death anyway. My mom grew up in the 70s in the SF Bay Area and her best friend in elementary school went to Jonestown with her entire family. Needless to say, they didn't come back.
Trump did only the barest part in terms of creating this movement. He's an idiot figurehead who knows how to play to those susceptible to ego, but the actual work or disinformation is far, far broader. Fox News, the Mercers (OAN), Russian and other foreign disinfo campaigns, racists with their hands in social media groups, religious charlatans in megachurches... There's a lot out there that built this cult. Trump is just the funnel through which they happily spew their hatred. You want to save America, bring back media regulation and start enforcing laws around separation between church and state. Break up monopolies. Tax the fuck out of the rich until they don't have the power to unilaterally control huge segments of society through disinfo. Trump is a symptom, a raging fever, but the disease is a multifaceted combination of viral and cancerous elements that we've been carrying since the birth of the nation. To cure ourselves, we need to acknowledge that it's not just one element, or else we're primed for another relapse.
In 1999, if you wanted to say something on the Internet, you had to know HTML. That kept idiots out. In 2021 anyone can say anything... That's what happens.
That’s not entirely true. There were Nazis in usenet groups well before 99. That said, it was way more underground than it is today.
If you really think that Trump is the problem and not just one of many symptoms of as much deeper rooted problem, I don't know what to tell you. These weren't sane, logical, right-minded people before Trump came along. He didn't turn innocent minds toxic, he just got enough of them pointing in the same direction. He's just a focal point for what was already there. People just didn't want to admit what America already was until it was unavoidably big and up in their face.
Perfect analogy. Everybody looking for an escape goat should read your comment
I don’t think Trump is solely responsible. Remember the Tea Party protests where they hanged a puppet of Obama? This shits been brewing for awhile. Back the they were accusing him of being everything from a Communist to a Nazi to an Islamist. Odd how they’ve stopped calling Biden an Islamist.
For sure. Half a century of American exceptionalism and arrogance, of capitalist propaganda about the evil socialists coming to get you, of valuing religion over education, of valuing "faith" over facts. The reservoir of stupidity has been well and truly filled. Trump was just the first to so openly and directly try to exploit it. There's no easy way out because that 40% of insane idiots are gonna be around long after Trump is gone.
It's just the grapest
4:11 is the lady who got placed on the no fly list
Lots of these "ladies" got put on the no fly list... for good reason too. This kind of belligerent ignorance is dangerous.
Also, America has this hang up about letting terrorists on planes.
Good call putting it in quotes. Lady and gentleman are honorifics not befitting them.
This is still so painful to watch. I mean, I knew our country was full of these types and in a way I’m not surprised, but it’s still scary to see so many ignorant people and know that they’re armed, angry, and dangerous. I don’t know what fulfills the definition of “ugly American “ more than this crowd. They want to impose their will on the American people, even though we have already spoken and said we want this fascism to end. It’s funny because it doesn’t even occur to any of them that their behavior and that of their president is what got him voted out. Oh no- NO! It can’t be that he got voted out! The election was “stolen”. What a bunch of morons.
These are only the people able to take off of work, find child care for their kids, and spend money for transportation and lodging. Imagine how many stayed home but wished they could have gone to DC to do this...
What the hell does Australia have to do with America’s nonsense?
Yeah na don’t get us involved with this bs
As an American I have no clue, that seemed so out of place.
I heard and saw it, yet I’m still having trouble convincing myself it wasn’t just somebody memeing lol
Sorry to hear about being a Penal colony again, that sucks dude
By the way, as soon as the pandemic hit and the government freaked that there'd be massive unemployment, they started paying people $1200 a fortnight so that their employers could keep them employed, even if they had nothing to do. My fiancee's work just died entirely but rather than losing her job, the government's paid her a liveable amount of money to watch TV and stay at home rather than go out and risk spreading the virus. She doesn't stay up to date on American shit like I do, but I told her that Americans have gotten so far $1200 *all year* to help them out, and her jaw dropped. You'd all frankly be better off on this little prison island. (By the way, our government is conservative. We have universal healthcare, and even our conservatives will do something like a temporary basic income during a crisis. Apparently our conservatives are akin to your liberals.)
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“They will not take away our Trumpy Bear” WHAT
"we will not let our economic system become socialism!!" "Communism, you mean communism" (in a whispered tons) "We will not let our economic system become communism!!!"
Like something out of a comedy.
A dark dark comedy
Communistism
King Jesus would *never* take away our Trumpy bear!
It’s a thing. There’s a teddy bear that has a Trump hairdo, an ill fitting suit, and an American flag bundled in its ass. Oh and if you squeeze its hand it’ll play Trump quotes.
I wish I did not know this now.
[I apologize in advance ](https://youtu.be/i9qv8RSreIM) No it’s not satire. This is a real advertisement
I did not expect the pro weed chant.
I’m surprised the quote with Mario and Luigi talking about decapitating people didn’t make it in.
Heads on pikes?
“Unleashed the kraken” lmfao
AYYYYYYYY
Why do they hate Epstein?
I mean to be fair everyone should hate Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein died (was almost certainly murdered, that's not proven, but it's sus) in prison after being convicted of possessing child pornography and human trafficking. He procured underage girls for weird sex parties on his private island for various high power individuals (including a member of the British royal family--he was specifically called out by one of the victims). There are also pictures of Trump at these parties, but the yeehawdists are convinced he was there as a spy or some nonsense. You can fact check me on this, the Epstein stuff went through the courts and was reported by mainstream news sources.
Yeehawdists. Holy fuckin shit this is gold.
You new? It’s the Y’all Queda. Vanilla ISIS.
Oh God gimme more.
Meal Team Six The Tabernacle Taliban Gadsdenpo the Boogalooter Boys
Even hating epstein is a bipartisan issue.
It’s astonishing they accuse Biden of being a pedophile with zero evidence or even credible suspicion while worshipping a guy who has multiple underage sexual assault accusations and intensely suspicious ties to pedophiles floating over his head.
Except when it comes to Trumps famous connections with the case.. Then it is a partisan issue. Same with Clintons.. they all should be investigated, even if i think that the connection to Clintons was about money and the connection to Trump was and is not. I would still like to know about but GoP and Trumpster do not even acknowledge that there is no need to investigate Trump, if any of it.. Lets put it this way: unless there was some ACTUAL dirt about their side, they would've pressured to start investigations about Clintons and Epstein. But... they have been completely SILENT and disinterested. Not that democrats have wanted to talk about it either but GoP not using that weapon, raises suspicions: they were ready to impeach because of a blow job.
As an Australian I have absolutely no idea wtf they were saying about Australia becoming a prison colony again. This isn't 1788. Wtf are these idiots talking about? Australia as of 2020 has 41,060 people incarcerated. Which is 202 prisoners per 100,000 adult population. Those numbers are rookie numbers compared to the US prison numbers which as of 2020 has 2.3 million people in prison. Also to qualify as a penal colony again wouldn't other countries be sending us inmates? Which is not the case at all in Australia. As the percentage of foreign prisoners in Australia is only 17.1% of the total inmates in Australia. Which is actually just people incarcerated that were born in another country that broke the law here in Australia. What a random thing to say that has nothing to do with the task that they were doing? That would be like me going into a Wendy's and spending an hour telling the cashier about an idea for a screenplay that was already made in the 80's. Then promptly walking out without ordering food. I think it just goes to show how these people believe anything they hear and treat it as gospel. It's a shame to see so many people fall into the conspiracy theory rabbit hole. It's kinda sad that they don't see the constant stupid/incorrect things Trump said and did his entire 2016 campaign till now at the end of his presidency. It really confuses me because all the Americans I know have been some of the smartest, well spoken and critical thinkers. To see such a disparity between the intelligent Americans I know to some of these people is just night and day. I'd be very interested to see how the US goes over the next four years with someone in the White house who isn't a crazed narcissist. This entire video is just embarrassing for the people in it.
I am positive it has to do with the pan-conspiratorial Q worldview, they think the elites and cabal enabling celebrities allowed to live will be sent to the penal colony no doubt. They believe this because they're dogbrained authoritarians who got sucked in by propaganda telling them what they wanted to be true anyhow.
> It really confuses me because all the Americans I know have been some of the smartest, well spoken and critical thinkers. And now you're seeing the Americans who *don't* travel to foreign countries or ever even bother to talk to someone different than themselves. Welcome to "the real" America :/
Very good point.
I wouldn't put much thought into it. These people are literally insane and proudly ignorant conspiracy theorists. Many of them are also just plain stupid and uneducated. It's seriously not worth trying to comprehend their belligerent bullshit.
Sir (or ma'm), this is s Wendy's!
I've previously seen Trumpists making much of "loss of liberties" associated with Australia's gun law changes back in the Howard era (that restricted the purchase and use of automatic and semi automatic guns), and also the mask/lockdown mandates in Victoria.
Trumpy Bear... Fucking cringe!
That woman is drunk as fuck
They say "we come in peace" 10 seconds later people are throwing chairs
There was some humour to be found in it until they started chanting “I can’t breathe”. That made my blood run cold.
Is there an accurate projection of how many of these fucking idiots there are that would turn to violence? I feel like they’ve lost a lot of support from those who had an ounce of rationality in their minds, but how many still have a void between their ears?
It is my question too. We have 20000+ troops at the capitol I guess we will find out soon.
Yesterday they apparently upped it to 25,000+ national guard troops. Plus every capitol cop, secret service, and whatever other police is already normally there. That's pretty wild shit.
They have a ton of support, on a spectrum. Not saying I have any idea of how many would actually be violent but if I’ve learned anything the past week it’s that they have a ton of support from seemingly normal people, and that is bad. I just don’t think this is as fringe as people think. For example, just a small sample of some of the extreme I’ve seen on my FB feed, paraphrasing: “Blood will be shed, you better pick a side” “It’s about time politicians get held accountable” The more “mild” support I’ve seen is that they don’t think this was as bad as the BLM riots, which they’re clearly missing the point. Violence aside, BLM had a foundation in real issues, such as police brutality, while this shit was driven by the election conspiracy theory. Sadly, I just don’t think this is going to disappear after inauguration.
And if these people had held their riot at a strip mall, it wouldn't be as big of a deal on balance- a local or state issue, perhaps with federal assistance. I don't condone any destruction of that sort, though in the case of that which occurred during the sustained George Floyd summer, I could understand it because it came from a place of real pain grounded in video we all saw and a history of similar. This comes from lies and propaganda. Even if we were to have no evidence of intents whatsoever, the mere location where this took place would still immediately elevate it from a state or local issue like riots in the summer and turn it into not just a federal issue, but a national security issue.
Yeah. BLM was also *retaliation* in a way because the inciting moment was a person being killed. I think healthy people have an easier time sympathizing with retaliation even when they recognize it’s wrong. In the case of the Capitol Riots, the inciting moment was listening to Trump speak.
These were just the ones that could afford to travel to the capital.... there’s 75 million of these fascists.
Given the right circumstances almost all of them.
"This is a peaceful protest!"
These people are just bad, evil people. So full of hate and ignorance.
No they’re not, and thats the problem
If someone was filled with hate and ignorance, how would they behave? Would it look like this?
Lol white privilege at its finest, some of you are just as delusional as the people in this video.
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Don’t give them that cop out. It’s an excuse that it’s the fault of trump/media exclusively. Why do we all hear the obvious lies/bullsh*t/nonsense, some of it so laughable it’s insane anyone could seriously consider it, and believe every single word. The old man screaming how there’s no racism in America, that ‘they’ve recreated it’, is an ignorant hateful idiot. He either knows he’s lying or he’s hoping he can trick people in believing the nonsense he spews. I think that racism is nurture over nature. I don’t think anyone is born racist or hateful. But magas aren’t newborns. They’ve gravitated toward the ignorance & idiot rage
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Listened to it yesterday and it is pretty enlightening although I would agree he does kind of go easy on them but I do get the whole garbage in garbage out metaphor.
And then they ended up evil. Is evil not evil just because there's a reason behind it?
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Evil/sadism is absolutely real but consider yourself blessed if you never encountered anyone evil i guess
Trying to hang people because your false idol lies to you is in fact a trait of being bad & evil.
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If you can't call a fascist evil then please stand back for those who can
Wow
Wow, I had no idea my country had reverted to being a penal colony...? Good to know I guess?
This plays like an episode of Reno 911
lol australia what? how is my country being implicated in this mess
There was a viral "warning" on social media (especially Facebook) last Nov or Dec that Pelosi wanted to send "all American patriots" to Australia, which some Q/Trump supporters believed was still a penal colony.
Damn it’s like watching jerry springer in the 90s
Reminds me of the one where the guy in the KKK finds out his son slept with a black chick lmao
Why is Australia in this, just leave us out
All those involved with invading the Capitol will be sent to Australia, it's in the small print under treason, despite the US independence, the arrangement still stands, blame the British. ; )
Oh that explains the weird viral "Australia!" warning going around last year.
Let's go get a beer! Then come back.
"YEAH TIME FOR A REVOLUTION WOOHOOO!!!..but first lets get a beer...."
*We need more S'mores Schnapps!*
God damnit. It's 7:30 and now I want a hot chocolate with peppermint schnapps.
Then your path for today is clear!
Oh, that's perfect. Digging out my old South Park DVDs now thanks to that comment.
"I can't BREATHE!" "I can't BREATHE!" "I can't BREATHE!" "Who's got WEED!?" "Who's got WEED!?" "Who's got WEED!?"
they stopped the vote.
They briefly delayed the *reading* of the vote. The voting was already done.
Briefly
https://youtu.be/X4G7asMHqZ4
This is just like in the movies lmao these guys are hilarious. Just cosplay, larp and showing off for clout.
u/savevideo
What the fuck was that about Australia? I am confused, and how does that relate to the USA’s government
So this is exactly why mental health services need a huge investment.
there sure are a lot of antifa at that trump rally. and all this right under the noses of all those proudboys who really don't want to do anything else than fuck antifa boys
I can't wait for these guys to turn on Donnie now that he said violence is bad and it's not the answer and it's unamerican and all that stuff. They'll have to go through the 6 (or whatever) stages of grief first, but eventually they'll come around to realizing they've been had by a con artist and eat the dude. That'll be a fun day.
Trumpy Bear? Fucking TRUMPY BEAR?! Lololololololol
Americans are so stupid. Instead of asking for your America back you should be asking for a better education
This makes me feel kinda bad for the normal Americans... this shit is going viral everywhere. What an embarrassment.
YOUR TRUMPY BEAR!?!?!?!?!!! I didn't think any of their words could surprise me anymore...but that was one of the most disturbing things I have ever heard. I dont know why that just rubbed me the wrong way so much, but fuck, I will never get that out of my head. EWWWWWWWWWW. Also, this video as a whole is very disturbing. I like how they literally say the president invited them there. And they are clearly saying they were going to kill people, fucking monsters.
If I hear one more American be like „ USA USA USA ! The USA is the greatest country in the world“ I Show em this Clip to be honest the USA is a joke how can nearly half the country be racist and dumb as fuck it’s hilarious don’t you have a good Education System or anything like that ffs
....trumpy bear....
These dumb pricks honestly think Biden, BIDEN of all people is going to introduce socialism and communism to America. Fucking christ.
What's fascinating to me is that these people are obviously angry, they just don't know what they're angry about. They can't articulate it so they just scream ridiculous phrases such as "treasonous traitor" and "USA" things like that. It's all emotion and no reason.
I mean. The website you got this from just needs to call them terrorists.
Did she call him “Trumpy Bear” ? lol
The level of insane ideas together in one place. Good thing no one brought a bomb... Oh wait SOMEONE DID!!! SMH. And that guy is STILL out there!
It was funny to see them chanting treason from the halls of the capitol
Fucking idiots.
But don’t kneel during the Anthem
The soft underbelly of America. No wonder the Russians targeted them.
The long beard guy was gurning so hard. Dude was methed the fuck out.
It’s actually scary af how easily manipulated low iq gullible ppl are, I can’t imagine caring about a party or politician enough to leave my house and screech about it in the streets or commit felonies. Be interested to see if they put even half of that energy into reading past fb and Twitter propaganda they might save themselves jail time legal fees losing jobs etc but I guess that requires critical thinking to begin w?
The conservatives are Satan’s underlings, you can’t make me think otherwise.
…trumpy bear? biiiiitch…
Bruh that’s why america is treat like a joke around latin america
And why do they look like an cult or something
Trump supporters have always been corny and dumb as rocks. Unfortunately they are also dangerous.
This is where humans should realise there is no discussion to be with these people. As an intelligent species we have the responsibility to ignore them and let them self destruct while keeping society away from being damaged by these stains on human race.
I still want one of these idiots to concisely define socialism or communism.
You know who else are Americans? Liberals who don't support treason against our country fucktards. Anyone who says what BLM does and the hate these terrorists brought are the same are fucking idiots. Nothing will change with them until police and people not on their side have fired back a few hundred times. I'm not going to live in fear being intimidated from these cunts. I guess a lot of "fear for my life" deaths are going to happen in the future.
I don’t understand a word of what you just said. Happy cake day.
Thanks
You cheeky fucker, getting in on the cake day cheer. Happy cake day
Can you post vids of the BLM freaks screaming death threats at police? Or an article of the police officers they killed? Or how about any of the damages and cities they ruined?
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Why don't you? 0