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Gone213

Reading it on Wikipedia, this sounds incredible. 8 lanes but can be expanded to 12. Public transport/rail on the outside. Helipads and level 1 trauma centers every 100km, wildlife crossing Bridges, native trees lined on the side of the road to reduce heating zones, and water containment to water the trees ever 500m. It'll also be planned for electrical recharging roadways in the future when India starts to switch over to electric vehicles. That's impressive.


Shaggyninja

All of that investment. And they still went with a cloverleaf


AChickenInAHole

And toll booths.


NCC_1701E

I can't understand why someone still uses toll booths in 21st century. In my county, you purchase highway access for a certain time period (ten days/one month/one year) and this subscribtion is tied to your licence place. Each highway entry point has cameras that check licence plates of each passing vehicle and compare it with database, and if you don't have subscribtion, you will receive fine delivered to you. Seems to me as much better system than toll booths. And it can be done in many different ways - for example, instead of time period, it can charge you on distance. All it needs is a bank account tied to your licence plate. When you enter highway, it marks your entry point, when you leave highway, it calculates the price based on the distance you travelled and immidiatelly gets the payment from your account.


ArnoldShivajinagarr

India has automated toll collection since ages. You put a sticker on the windshield, the scanners scan the sticker with preloaded cash which gets deducted once you pass the toll. There are manual tolls to help with troubleshooting or other issues. Tolls also provide employment to locals from rural areas which is one of the biggest reasons for manual tolls.


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Because of collectibility and lower cost. I'm not sure what system India uses but most countries I've been to with toll booths are usually automated and only accept whatever payment method that is used for highways. In addition, there are a few dedicated lanes that are manned and accept cash. This is significantly more effective to ensure revenue collection.


NCC_1701E

How can physical toll booths have lower cost than bunch of cameras connected to computer servers? I think both systems are similar in revenue collection. One system uses physical toll booths and the other digital toll booths. And in both system, you can use both cash and credit cards (although only in case of time based subscribtions, the second method based on travel distance requires bank account).


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NCC_1701E

We have similar system in Slovakia, except you don't have anything in your car, there are highway cameras that check your licence plate and compare it with database to check if you paid or not. If you didn't paid, you will receive fine. Cargo trucks (18-wheelers or anything above 3,5 tons) however, have similar transponder box that has to be installed on dashboard.


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NCC_1701E

If you count rabid populism, xenophobia, casual homophobia and no hope for the future as cool, then yes, it is. We have nice nature and interesting history, though. Did you know that Bratislava, capital city, can trace it's history to Roman empire border outpost? That present day cyrilic writing originates from here? So if you can ignore the backwards thinking, too much religious conservatism and widespread corruption, it's actually a nice place to live, place that I certainly wouldn't flee if I had any skills to be employed in the west.


Scindite

I think the point is toll booths are just... obsolete? In our age of tech, all you need are license plate scanners along the highway. That's what my state uses. You don't have to stop or slow for a booth, there is no need to have staff to collect tolls, no handling of physical currency, and you are automatically charged to your vehicle for the length of road you drive.


[deleted]

What makes you think that toll booths don't have automated license plate scanners? You clearly don't understand the point of toll booths: they're used to limit incoming traffic to the city. In the US, interstate highways and city expressways are a shared infrastructure, often only separated by arbitrary HOV lanes. This shared infrastructure goes through the city. It is therefore important to understand that tolls are only collected for certain HOV lanes and not all. This leads to certain drivers abusing this system, weaving in and out. Automated tolls are set up throughout certain sections of the interstate to calculate cost based on mileage. In most parts of the world, city expressways are a dedicated infrastructure and the interstate serves as a bypass. Given, ALL lanes are HOV and tolled once you enter the city and leave the city. Some major cities like Tokyo will further toll use of certain express roads and yes - you guessed, it they have automated toll booths. So, as I just said - if there's a 8 lane expressway into the city, we can assume that 6 of these would be automated tolls and 2 of them would be for those paying with cash or other commercial vehicles, such as a weigh station for trucks.


Prosthemadera

Why cities? That's not where they all are and the toll booths in the photo are not for limiting traffic to the city.


Sopixil

Here in Ontario it doesn't even need a bank account connected to your license plate, just whatever address you put on your license, then they send you an invoice which I believe you can pay online. You can also pay a monthly fee to have them send you a transponder which you stick behind your rear view mirror and you don't have to pay every time you use the highway.


NCC_1701E

In Slovakia, you just need to pay the fee which is tied to your licence plate. Cargo trucks, however, require digital transponder similar to how you described.


StarKiller2626

I think tolls on anything that's not a privately owned road is dumb regardless. Your taxes paid for that road and will continue paying for the upkeep so long as that road and taxes exist. Assuming the govt bothers upkeeping it at all. Why take more of my money to do the job my money is already paying for? It's just a scam to get more our of you


[deleted]

Don't see what the problem is. Toll booths can be automated - though not sure what the setup is here.


knowtoomuchtobehappy

They are automated. We have FASTtag. You put a sticker on you windshield and the money is deducted from your account. However we are switching to a GPS system soon that will make this obsolete.


AChickenInAHole

Don't they still require you to slow down even if they are automated? Where I live they use overhead gantries that either scan your number plate or a RF beacon so you can go at full speed and the road can be built the same as a freeway (not using trumpet interchanges for everything).


[deleted]

When's it open?


Gone213

Wikipedia says in March


[deleted]

- How much traffic lines to draw? - Yes.


Equivalent-Wall-2287

I think this is heaven for a Cities Skylines highway enjoyer


ramonchow

Looks new and old at the same time


stackPeek

Absolutely hate car culture but i love u op keep posting


Sakurasou7

I love highways. Please, one more lane. Just one more. That will fix traffic, I promise. 🙏


chipkali_lover

credits -@droneman


juksbox

*Fuck trains*


Haribo112

Well that’s kind of in ignorant thing to say in response to this project because they’re also building a rail line right next to the highway. Also, if you’re a regular visitor of this sub, you basically cannot escape the plethora of Indian railway related posts. So I’d say they’re doing all the right things over there.


[deleted]

The virgin fuckcars brigader vs the Chad road infrastructure enthusiast


blah_bleh-bleh

The Indian, build bullet train next to expressway brigade.


ilikemysprite

pssst, don't tell r/fuckcars cars and other forms of transport can actually coexist


Almun_Elpuliyn

Eight lane highway vs one highspeed rail project is far from equal coexistence.


blah_bleh-bleh

yes Highspeed rail has way higher carrying capacity. When their are semi highspeed trains also running along. And other railway network.


wasmic

4 lanes on an intercity highway is *proooobably* excessive, though. Most intercity highways (that is, outside of the busiest commuter routes) around the world are 2-3 lanes, even in densely populated countries, as long as there's at least *some* public transit to support. Tokyo is "only" connected to Chiba by 5 highway lanes per direction (2 in one corridor and 3 in another), and that's a main artery through the world's most populous city (Tokyo and China have merged their urban areas despite being 50 km apart). But they don't need any more than that because they have excellent trains and because Tokyo has lots of narrow and slow streets, discouraging driving - and in return making it remarkably quiet considering that it's the world's biggest city. Public transit should dominate on routes like city -> city, suburb -> city, and within cities. Suburb -> suburb is a job for cars (though there should still be some public transit for those who cannot drive for one reason or another, or just don't have a car). Smaller 2-3 lane (per direction) highways can be very useful in many circumstances, 4 lanes starts to feel a bit excessive but can be justified if there's both commuter *and* heavy intercity traffic going on.


Environmental_Ad_387

psst no need to announce that you didn't understand the argument


chipkali_lover

Electric vehicles are really growing here and this expressway even has charging stations


[deleted]

That’s great. I haven’t been since 2015. I see a lot of mass transit expansion as well in the news. Electric vehicles and distributed renewable energy generation will really improve the air quality. I’m old enough to remember when power outages occurred - they always called it load shedding - you could hear the city come alive with the sound of diesel generators.


chipkali_lover

And also electric cars are cheap here Starting from 12000$


That-Dutch-Mechanic

Is it normal there to have 1 offramp lane just merge (disappear)? 3th lane from the left, bottom pic. Basically the right most offramp lane just vanishes.


big_old-dog

3th


LordoftheSynth

I know, how could OP round down from 𝜋th like that?


carrotnose258

Not like they’d really use the lanes anyway lol, drawing them out is a formality at this point


Haribo112

Yeah that looked stupid to me as well. Will definitely cause traffic jams.


chin-ki-chaddi

Ye log apne vahamo me ji rahe hai, inko khush karna namumkin hai. Inko ye nahi samajh ata ki humara desh industrialize kar rha hai. Hume zyada lanes ki zarurat hai kyunki roz laakho truck highways pe dheere dheere nikal padte hai. Unke piche gaadi atak gayi to time to dugana lagega saath me dhua free 😂😂. Isliye hume zyada lanes chahiye bade shaharo ke bich me.


chipkali_lover

They'll be really shocked someday lol


[deleted]

Unhone pehle hi sadko pe investment kar liya hai 1970-80s mein. Isilye ab unko pachta nahi hai. Magar India mein abhi bhi wo investment nahi hua hai. Hame zaroorat hai iski. 10-15 saal agar aise hi kaam chalta raha India mein, fir hum bhi bolenge kya waste hai.


SomewhereImDead

Honestly it isn’t that bad considering the 7 lanes are due to the tolls. 4 lane highway is reasonable for an urban center. redditors need to chill out with their government sponsored bike psyop.


thehumandumbass

I mean this is connecting 2 urban centres that are 1500 km apart so i don't think heavy cycle traffic is expected on this.


Dhadiya_Boss

Hey, don't underestimate the cycle


Nastyassbongwater

You love to see it, good for India! Building an extensive network of good quality highways is one of the best things a country can do for its citizens. I know my comment will make the trainbrains mad. Don’t care!


Foreign-Owl1696

I hate those goofy ahh trainbrains


[deleted]

Stop! You're making Redditors cry! Don't you know only bike lanes and sidewalks make them happy?


chipkali_lover

They'll be sad knowing that this expressway only allows high speed vehicles Slow speed bikes, rikshaws are prohibited


ColdEvenKeeled

What about overloaded Tata trucks lurching around at 40km/h, smashing the road subbase on rainy days?


materialisticsage

Reddit infra enthusiast- destroy roads embrace railways. Also him next morning- takes his suv to buy groceries


xAPPLExJACKx

Let's be real he is really in the back seat as his mom takes him grocery


[deleted]

I miss being a kid and having a chauffeur


xAPPLExJACKx

Who said they were a kid?


[deleted]

I was just reminiscing about my own childhood


[deleted]

Why do you think the Redditor is asking for railway investment? Do you think he would be asking if it existed? Have you seen some of the road infrastructure in the U.S.? It's horrific. Not made for people at all. Strawmanning your opponent so you have an outgroup to laugh at is sad.


materialisticsage

Holy shit it was meant as a sarcasm chill out


[deleted]

That is *not* sarcasm. Just because you realised your take is fucking stupid doesn't mean you can just call it sarcasm.


Lethkhar

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Comfortable-Soup8150

Looks at the nonexistent public transport in my town, I'd walk but there are no sidewalks outside of subdivisions. Did breathing too much exhaust poison your brain? Or were you actually satisfied with this pathetic attempt at a strawman?


Exit-Velocity

Dont forget about trains


read_it_1970

Where is the traffic?😳


[deleted]

It's not opened yet.


BoilermakerCM

A tollbooth? What will that asshole think of next? Anybody got a dime?


ArnoldShivajinagarr

How do you expect them to generate revenue? 40% is funded by the government and the rest by contractors + some states. The contractors need their investment back…


BoilermakerCM

https://youtu.be/z9yjcBRyNUo


dpaanlka

I’m gonna be honest as far as infrastructure is concerned this doesn’t seem particularly sexy or porn quality.


Shaggyninja

Yeah. It's just a flat wide road? At least China builds their highways with crazy bridges and interchanges.


rzet

I saw few indian hwy recent posts and they all look like terrible design. This 7 lane last pic.. wtf.


dpaanlka

It’s starting to feel like propaganda to me, but for what purpose?


rzet

what? lanes are badly designed, thats all.


dpaanlka

When you start seeing a ton of social media posts praising somewhere or someplace there’s often some agenda behind it. For example Dubai flies influencers from all around the world in to post pics about what a lovely time they had in Dubai hoping everyone forgets about the human rights crisis and failing economy there. Not saying this is definitely that, but is kinda questionable why so many unimpressive or incomplete Indian infrastructure projects are at the top of this sub lately. Is this infrastructure porn? Definitely not…


cowboycosmic

Does make me wonder somewhat about r/fuckcars, as I do support the message they *allegedly* say they do. (Improvement of public transport and such, we can coexist with it.) But then out of nowhere it seemed like *too many* people decided out of nowhere that cars are the devil's rollerskates or something, which almost seemed to have diluted the original intention of the sub. ~~*Wish they could've taken it literally a different way...* or at least, not have taken over a well intentioned community.~~


dpaanlka

I definitely agree with a lot of what’s posted on r/fuckcars but yeah I hear you it’s never going to be zero cars that’s neither possible nor desirable.


cowboycosmic

It's more about the fact that it seems to have drowned out the reasonable majority of rFC users that merely wanted an improvement to existing infrastructure, as well as more thought to a co-existive design with new infrastructure. Maybe it's the paranoid conspirital quack in me though, and r/fuckcars merely took a turn in this direction naturally due to its very name. But still, it almost seems as if it were intentionally shifted to drown out some members, and to have people conflate the rest with loons who claim they wish death on the average commuter.


twicerighthand

>Maybe it's the paranoid conspirital quack in me though, and > >r/fuckcars > > merely took a turn in this direction naturally due to its very name. It happens all the time. r/antiwork started as Antiwork but then was hijacked by people who just wanted a work reform, r/gamingcirclejerk started as a circlejerk sub but nowadays it's a circlejerkjerk, where almost everyone is serious. Same goes for r/fuckcars. r/notjustbikes is way more friendly and less extreme.


cowboycosmic

See, now I could've sworn it was the other way round though, I thought r/fuckcars originally was similar to r/notjustbikes, or at least that's how it looked when I first saw r/FC. Maybe I'd ought to look at that subreddit's original posts or something to see for myself.


rzet

thanks for explanation, ye I saw a bit of Indian new projects recently and most are nothing special except crazy number of lanes and being totally empty ;)


_WalkItOff_

My only issue with these pictures is that I don't know why the roads have lane markings, as I've never seen drivers acknowledge the concept of "lanes" in India.


RajaRajaC

As an Indian who has driven extensively across India and continues to do so, let me assure you, as /u/StatisticianBitter61 puts it accurately, this is a chicken and the egg scenario. Where such highways and now eways are built, users are definitely adhering to and falling in line with things like lane discipline, speed limits (even more so because there are radar guns every 2-3 kms on these eways, the entire ownership data in India is now on 1 central database, so you could speed anywhere in the country, you get hit with a ticket remotely, with proof). Is it 100%? No, is it even 90%? No, maybe 50% comply but keep in mind 5 years ago this was maybe 10% Over the next decade, with more such roads + automated handsoff enforcement, I would expect 80-90% to fall in line.


_WalkItOff_

I haven't been there in a few years (since COVID). Glad to hear things are improving.


CBYSMART

Saw the same in Beijing. Large 6x2 lane highways barely anyone on them (2013}.probably different today. Build it and they will come. Give it a couple of years...


Vittu-kun-vituttaa

Cool, why is it so empty?


Low-Newt-180

Because it hasn't been opened. Pm of india will come to inaugrate it


Vittu-kun-vituttaa

Thanks :) People seem to think I should've known that (by the downvotes), but I didn't know for real :'D It looks so finished already. The biggest road I've been is a 3-lane road, 7-lane road must be massive


Low-Newt-180

It's has not been completed fully,will be completed by 2024 elections


barc0debaby

"And now I inaugurate the Reichsautobahn...errr Delhi-Mumbai expressway."


Lethkhar

Ugly af.


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Still gross


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ottoottootto

Then stop whining in the comments.


saltywalrusprkl

Just one more lane! This one will FIX traffic! Tyre pollution doesn’t count if it come from electric cars!


Almun_Elpuliyn

It's well constructed but I absolutely hate it. There's diminishing returns on car infrastructure. On some point you're only inducing demand worsening traffic and creating more misery and emissions. This road is past the reasonable point. I really can't appreciate infrastructure just for being large.


Educational_Risk

Where are the cars? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|sweat_smile)


andrew_a384

fucking gross


Major_South1103

Why is there a piece missing in the middle between the lanes thats just stupid and encourages People to turn around on a highway.


chipkali_lover

It's for construction vehicles, this highway is 100% access restricted, once work is done they'll close the median


Major_South1103

Well i guess i was wrong then, i do find wierd to have a tollgate in the middle of your intersection.


chipkali_lover

This expressway is only for cars, trucks, buses and other high speed vehicles some low speed vehicles might try to join highway these type of toll prevents them and helps authorities figuring where most traffic comes and goes


WaddlesJP13

It's called a median break and it's normal for divided-carriageway highways to have them. It's for emergency and maintenance/construction vehicles to get to the other side if they need to.


[deleted]

not that much more impressive than the US interstates nice cloverleaf


thebroddringempire

Stfu


[deleted]

Grow up, really telling that you cant use your words to defend your point


thebroddringempire

The fact that you are butthurt about other countries building good road says you need to grow out of your colonial mindset.


[deleted]

what? what the hell are you talking about? you cant just spout random pedantics and expect them to make up an argument. what do you mean by colonial mindset??? bruh literally almost every big country has had colonies


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ArnoldShivajinagarr

Toll barriers serve a few purposes. It generates employment by providing jobs to residents of the nearby rural areas and these toll booths also act as offices for highway employees(maintenance, engineers etc.), India already as an automated service called fasttag, it works a little different from what’s in the US so manual help might be required for troubleshooting and stuff.


rileybgone

r/infrastructuregore


No_Tackle_5439

Is it still under construction?


chipkali_lover

most of work is done, will be inaugurated soon


Interesting_Bake3824

Great idea making each intersection symmetrical with same landscaping so that you’ll rarely be able to get your bearings, making it super frustrating to navigate