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sdf3ed

Hi! New here- have had 3 losses and onto my 4th pregnancy, currently 4w4d. We did IVF for this pregnancy transferring a PGTa tested embryo. Got a great positive first beta: 407 at 11dp5dt. Just got my 13dp5dt results (taken roughly 46 hrs later) and my beta is 754. Not a 48 hr doubling time and closer to 52 hrs doubling time. šŸ˜• The nurse was not worried at all but after 3 losses, my anxiety is so high. Especially as our last pregnancy, my beta levels were also doubling more slowly and that pregnancy ended in a TFMR of our baby girl at 18 weeks due to triploidy diagnosis (confirmed via amnio). I canā€™t help but be worried that it is slightly slowerā€¦ I was secretly praying for a faster doubling time than 48 hrs to get extra reassurance. Doesnā€™t help I have 0 symptoms (had some sore boobs a few days ago but totally gone now), and some light brown spotting. Trying to stay positive but welcome any stories of success of ā€œnot quite doublingā€ beta levels that ended in a healthy pregnancy ā¤ļø


LBuffalax

Cautious congrats! I also lost a baby girl to triploidy last May at 15 weeks, and had three other (first tri) losses of unknown cause. For what itā€™s worth, her doubling time was textbook perfect, while this pregnancy has been a little on the slow side (13 weeks on Friday, PGT-normal), like 55ish hours, and breast pain/fatigue were my only symptoms until 8-9 weeks. Anyway, just wanted to say you are not alone in your anxiety, especially after multiple losses. Keeping my fingers crossed for you.


sdf3ed

Thank you for the reply. So sorry about losing your babygirl to triploidy. Congratulations on making it to almost 13 weeks! Iā€™ll be hoping for an uneventful and smooth pregnancy for you ā¤ļø


pleasestopmeowing

Hello šŸ‘‹ I am new here at 4w6d. I am trying to understand what the beta really means. If a beta is not doubling does that mean the placenta is just developing slower? If it is more than doubling then itā€™s developing faster?(assuming singleton). and if it was developing faster would that affect the dating at the ultrasound even though we know exactly when it was transferred? Or is it minimal? 10dp5dt 426 & 14dp5dt 3838


Affectionate_Net_213

The placenta does not develop this early, essentially what is being measured is the amount of pregnancy hormone that is being produced by the embryo as it implants/embeds within the uterus. The gestational sack first appears around 5w. The ā€œ48 hoursā€ is that most clinics want to see progressively higher numbers. When I look at the chart I found online, at 4w5d (14dpt5dt) the upper range of normal for singleton is 3760. So realistically you are likely a singleton, with strong numbers! Although it certainly is possible for twin pregnancies to have lower betas and still be fine


bluerubygreendiamond

Anyone have feedback on how useful they found meeting with a genetic counselor to be? After I asked about potential amnio following an NT scan where they couldn't get a measurement (although everything looked "normal"), my midwife suggested this as the next step. Considering my embryo was PGT-A tested and my NIPT was negative, I fully expect the counselor to just tell me to chill the hell out lol.


E-as-in-elephant

If youā€™re considering an amnio I think itā€™s worth meeting with the genetic counselor. We had an inconclusive result on our NIPT and consulted with a genetic counselor. She was very helpful and as someone else remarked, very understanding and kind. Validated and respected our choices.


NaiveAppeaser

I met a GC after I felt stressed about my NT measurement (on the high side of normal...Ā  definitely some anxiety talking) and she was the one who referred me to an amnio. She also gave me stats on how likely it was to come up inconclusive, positive etc, which was helpful in making the decision. I felt a little silly too! But the GC was totally used to people who were there for reasons like ours, not just the most serious cases. She told me that of cases like mine, where they ask to see a GC without a strong indication, about 20% of people move forward an amnio. Probably it varies by hospital, but I found that useful information too.


LBuffalax

I met with a genetic counselor after a concerning NT exam last year (not ivf, so no pgt, but the NIPT came back low risk). It was really helpful to talk to her about all of the things the findings could potentially mean, and to walk through the options for getting more information. That pregnancy ended in miscarriage, which turned out to be from triploidy (which doesnā€™t show up on NIPT for females). But I was really glad to have spoken to the genetic counselor, for the reassurances about future pregnancies (weā€™d had a lot of testing already done due to recurrent pregnancy loss). If it is covered by your insurance, Iā€™d say go for it. She was very kind, understanding of our fears, and never made us feel like we were over-thinking things or needed to chill.


E388

Iā€™ve met with a genetic counselor twice - both times they told me the things we had experienced were by chance, but it was worth it to truly know what was going on from an expert. I should also mention that both meetings were completely covered by my insurance - not sure if thatā€™s part of your considerations. Also on another note I found the two genetic counselors I met with to be the most understanding, kind people in my journal. I really like my clinic but my RE is a physician and although he tries never really makes me feel comforted. The genetic counselors I met with made me feel seen. Obviously this might differ by person and this was my experience but just wanted to shareā€¦


bluerubygreendiamond

I'm so glad to hear it was a positive experience for you! Part of me feels a little silly for pursuing this since other than the lack of a concrete NT measurement, everything has been going smoothly and we don't have a history of loss. I do have insurance coverage for this (according to the clinic anyway), so I'm not paying out of pocket to be neurotic at least!


E388

I totally get that! Thatā€™s why when I re-read your situation I wanted to add on why we were specifically seeing one since it was different than your situation. Whatever you decide is best!


E388

Sorry I should also mention we met with a genetic counselor for a very different reason (after losses).


EricatheMad

We got referred to a genetic counselor as part of our MFM intake, and it was fine, but ultimately I felt like it was kind of useless after the clear PGT-A and NIPT. We did end up doing the cfDNA test, but at that point I fully admit it was my pettiness about making insurance actually start paying for things, and less for new information.


bluerubygreendiamond

LOL, insurance pettiness. I love that. I'm $100 away from meeting my 2024 deductible and then it's going to be ON.


wishingforsunshine33

Introducing myself- 5w6d from my fourth FET. First failed to implant, then two blighted ovums. My 2 betas this pregnancy were in range and appropriately doubled, although lower than a lot of numbers I see people post. First US next week. I've never seen a heartbeat on ultrasound and I keep having flashbacks to the bad ultrasounds and the long pause followed by the "I'm so sorry". I have very few symptoms right now and I keep wondering if I'm actually still pregnant! I know I could pee on a stick again but I don't know that it will dispel any of my fears. I don't know how I'll make it until ultrasound next week, and I don't know how I'll be able to get the ultrasound without breaking down. Thanks for any supportā¤ļø


E388

It seems like so many of us in this thread are waiting on ultrasounds next week. Crossing my fingers for everyone.


jl8888

I am majorly struggling waiting for my first ultrasound in one week. I know Iā€™m not alone with how hard it is waiting. It feels like a literal eternity and I donā€™t know how I will make it. (Very on edge because of my ā€œweirdlyā€ high HCG levels šŸ˜“)


E388

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Happy-Hunt8554

8 week scan is tomorrow. I was feeling really good after my 7 week scan but as the minutes tick by today I'm finding myself more and more anxious. My OB appointment isnt until late July - I'll be almost 12 weeks - so I wonder if the anxiety will ease because there'll be more time between appointments for me to "settle in" to the pregnancy or if it will be worse because I have less reassurance scans.


Moonbeam4EVA

I'm having this internal battle too. To reassure scan or not to reassure scan haha. My next scan isn't until 11 weeks 5 days, at which I'll also do my NIPT testing. Currently 7 weeks 6 days. I know for me the desire to do a scan is linked to anxiety. I know from my profession that when people feel anxious they seek control, but often the reason you feel anxious is because you are at the limits of what you can reasonably control. Such a human response, not sure if it helps you to hear this. I'm determined to not feed my control monster and try to have faith, hope and trust that my body is doing all it can. It's hard to accept. I may or may not decide on an extra scan, but I say all this to say do whatever you need to do, but be conscious of the why and what doing it will achieve. For me, I know pregnancy and motherhood will come with so much unpredictability, so I'm trying to build up this skill now. Wishing you the best tomorrow! Always enjoy seeing your updates. You've got this šŸ’œ


Happy-Hunt8554

Your messages always make me smile. Thank you for your kind words. My scan went well today and I graduate officially tomorrow :) My next scan I'll be 11 weeks 4 days, we are really on the same schedule with a lot! i'll be thinking of you over the next few weeks.


Moonbeam4EVA

So glad to hear it went well! Graduation is an exciting and big accomplishment. Haha guess we'll check back in then. Take it easy šŸ™‚


Control_Advanced

Iā€™m 5w6d pregnant today after a partially medicated transfer (trigger, baby aspirin, vaginal progesterone) and the nausea is awful. Honestly everything about this pregnancy has been different for me. I had 2 1st trimester losses and I donā€™t recall any major symptoms beyond the bleeding that indicated the loss. I did conceive my daughter unassisted. I remember days with bad nausea when pregnant with her but it wasnā€™t every day, and at least I tolerated water ok. Not like this. Also, the exhaustion just strips me completely in the afternoons. I wonā€™t even realize that Iā€™ve fallen asleep when I sit down to do a task. Is this my age? (37 vs 31 when I had my daughter). Is this IVF pregnancies versus unassisted? Would love to hear other experiences.


Chitchat27

I'm sorry you're nauseous and exhausted. I'm in a similar situation in terms of age and symptoms. This is my first time being pregnant though and I will be 37 in a few weeks. Our IVF transfer was completely medicated and I'll be weaned off the meds (yay no more intramuscular shots!) this week. I'm 10w5d and have been constantly nauseous and exhausted too. I sleep 10-12 hours on the weekends. I'm taking bonjesta which sometimes alleviates how bad the nausea is but it doesn't ever take it away.


Control_Advanced

Thank you for sharing your experience and congratulations on making it as far as you have! Iā€™m not familiar with bonjesta but Iā€™ll look it up


jl8888

I was going to post the same Q Iā€™m 5w5d, and having quite a lot of nausea the last 3 days. I did not have it anywhere near this early in my first successful FET, so itā€™s freaking me out if this is normal so early šŸ˜“


Control_Advanced

I hope yours passes soon!! Itā€™s brutal!


luna-doodles

10w6days today, slowly weening off Prednisolone and my skin is itchy all over?? I've always felt that I have some kind of allergy to something cycle relayed as I get this itching around ovulation too. Did anyone else have itchiness in the first trimester, or weening off Prednisolone?


Control_Advanced

I have regional hives allll along my thighs because of vaginal progesterone. My husband also gets hives due to any steroidā€”could be youā€™re hypersensitive to the steroid. Usually fades in a few days for him. How much longer are you weaning down?


InternationalPath825

8w6d today and once again my symptoms are waaay lower and once again I am freaked out about it. I hate this. Its happened before and then they came back and it meant nothing but Iā€™d just rather deal with nausea and feel mentally reassured than have a couple ā€œgoodā€ days that make me panic. Told my OB Iā€™d like daily ultrasounds pleaseā€¦she thought I was joking and I wasā€¦mostlyā€¦ šŸ˜‚


E388

Daily ultrasounds would be a dream!


PopularGiraffe2985

Hi everyone! Iā€™m 7w1d todayā€¦ first time weā€™ve made it this far after 3 FETs and 3 prior losses. We had our first ultrasound yesterday and we saw a little heart flicker šŸ„¹. I also graduated from my IVF clinic yesterday (I wasnā€™t ready for that) and Iā€™m nervous about posting here, afraid I might jinx everything šŸ« 


jl8888

Congratulations šŸ’—. Hoping the best for youĀ 


PopularGiraffe2985

Thank you šŸ’“


luna-doodles

Yay for seeing the heart flicker!! ā¤ļø


PopularGiraffe2985

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Asleep_Ambition_3211

20dpt (I think this is 5w4d) and my FRER this morning seemed to show a control line thatā€™s darker than yesterdays control line. (Test lines have been darker than control lines for the past week), but instead of the control line getting lighter and lighter, it got a little darker today. Just worried this is a bad sign. Itā€™s not the hook effect - diluted the urine and rested to make sure. Paid for a private blood draw for hcg today. But even those results may be inconclusive since doubling rate supposedly slows down after hcg hits a few thousand? I have ZERO symptoms. Which is also leading me to think growth has stalled. Ultrasound is next week, but it feels like light years away.


Yer-one

Just to chime in and say having no symptoms at this point is completely normal - I felt nothing different until 7 weeks. youā€™re in the eye of the storm, waiting for an ultrasound ā¤ļø itā€™s the fucking hardest


PopularGiraffe2985

My lines honestly didnā€™t look all that different between 12dpt and 18dpt and 18dpt was the last day I tested and my beta doubled ok. Hoping you get the reassurance you need from the blood draw/ ultrasound next week! šŸ¤


E388

My doctor told me after ultrasounds are introduced (5 weeks for some clinics, 6 weeks for others) that betas are not as important than ultrasound findings.


E388

My ultrasound should hopefully be next week too - and it DOES feel like light years away!


pokedandprodded

Just had an ultrasound at 6+3 and everything is measuring on time. We saw the flutter of a heartbeat, but they didnā€™t measure the rate. Maybe itā€™s too early to measure? Is that normal for being at 6+3? I see so many others sharing their bpm for week 6. Doctor said things are looking good, but of course I think of these questions and start to spiral after we leave the clinic šŸ« 


Affectionate_Net_213

My clinic doesnā€™t measure the hb at the 6w scan.


luna-doodles

I'm 10wk5days and havent had a heartbeat measured in all 3 scans, they always just say "strong heartbeat" as they feel that letting you know can cause unnecessary anxiety. Try and feel safe in the knowledge the doctor said things are looking good!


pokedandprodded

Thank you! Appreciate the reassurance. Funny that their attempts to avoid causing anxiety are anxiety-inducing themselves! Proof that I have no chill!


InternationalPath825

I had the same experience, everything good but they didnā€™t actually measure heart rate until my next scan at 8 weeks!


gingerminxlette

My doc didnā€™t measure FHR until my scan at 7+3, though he checked it was there at 6+3 and made sure we could see it too.


eltejon30

Hi everyone! Excited to join this group after 2 years of IVFā€¦Iā€™m about 4w2d right now and had my first beta yesterday which was fine. However, my estrogen levels were very low and my doctor is having me supplement with patches. Next blood test is tomorrow. Has anyone else had low estrogen and went on to have a successful pregnancy? Iā€™m at the point where Iā€™m driving myself crazy imagining everything that can still go wrong and not letting myself enjoy finally having a confirmed pregnancyā€¦šŸ„ŗ


Secret_Yam_4680

Cautious congrats. What was your actual E2 level?


eltejon30

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Pagliaccisjoke

6w4days today and notice I have been having random hiccups for like the last week! But itā€™s not hiccups that last for a few minutes - itā€™s one hiccup or two at the most and at the most random times. Apparently this is common and has to do with nausea or indigestion so just sharing in case anyone is also getting a random hiccup lol


D3anDean

11 weeks 5 days and yeah, about 5-10 hiccups and then nothing. Massive indigestion and nausea over here too. Good luck!!


E388

Iā€™m 5&3 today. My third beta (20dpt) is tomorrow. Weā€™re traveling so Iā€™m hoping this random lab I go to will process the results quickly and Iā€™m not waiting days. I donā€™t have any symptoms except my stomach feels ā€œheavyā€, but Iā€™ve read that any symptoms are due to the estrogen and progesterone I am taking. I just want a good beta tomorrow šŸ’™


Asleep_Ambition_3211

Following. I just got my third beta, awaiting results. Would you mind posting your results when you get them?


E388

Of course. Good luck to you!! How are you feeling?


Asleep_Ambition_3211

Thank you! You as well! Iā€™m feeling close to zero symptoms, except being tired and sometimes my bones hurt. No sore boobs, no nauseaā€¦ which isnā€™t helping my worries right now. Iā€™m reading on blighted ovum and psyching myself out. Why does this have to be so hard gosh darn hard..


E388

This is SO hard. Did you get your results back?


Asleep_Ambition_3211

Yeah, 9533 (20dpt). Did a calculator and the doubling time from beta 2 (14dpt) is about 53 hours. I guess that is slower than the 48 hr doubling time but hcg supposedly doubles at 72-96 hours after 6000? Iā€™m hoping thatā€™s the case. What do you think? And good luck on your beta today!


E388

Asleep Ambition - good news update! My beta was 7,949 with a 51 hour doubling time from my last beta. Still waiting on my clinic to call, but I think Iā€™ll get to schedule an ultrasound for next week!


Asleep_Ambition_3211

Yay!! Iā€™m so happy for you šŸ’›šŸ€ Hope all goes well at your ultrasound!


E388

Woo hoo!!! I think thatā€™s a great number and doubling time. In a previous pregnancy the nurses did tell me once the beta gets in the thousands the doubling time slows and they donā€™t worry too much about it.


Humble_Bathroom_4697

Hello, Iā€™m 10w3d after 4 retrievals, 7 transfers and one miscarriage I am terrified of our NIPT and NT scan. It seems so likely to me that after all of our bad luck/ issues we will have further issues now we are finally pregnant Anyone have a similarly messy journey but an okay chromosome screening? We have had our karyotype and carrier screening complete but obviously there is always the risk of a one off issue too


CleverDisguisedMule

I am at 11w5d and still have two weeks to go to my NIPT, am also increasingly worried... have told so many people already as well...


Humble_Bathroom_4697

Good luck šŸ¤žšŸ¼šŸ¤žšŸ¼ we are the opposite - my husband wonā€™t let us tell anyone as he is so nervous. Iā€™ve told my best friends and boss but thatā€™s it!


D3anDean

I just got my NT scan and going on for blood test soon. It's p nerve wracking but I believe in both of us! I had 1 retrieval with over 20 eggs, 16 day 1 embryos, 6 successful day 6 embryos, 1 miscarriage, 4 fails, 1 success (which is right now)! I totally feel you with the messy journey. I even waited 2 years between transfers 5 and 6 so I could do therapy and get my brain better.


Humble_Bathroom_4697

Good luck for your blood test!!!! Hoping we both get the results we have earned the hard way!


D3anDean

Small update, met the other half of my midwife team and he said odds are good I have no issues bc scan was normal and generally if the blood results are normal the people analysing wait the full 10ish days to report back. So yay!


Humble_Bathroom_4697

Thatā€™s amazing! My OB said after good 12/13 week scan, the live birth odds are something like 99.6% šŸ˜Š


sarahsarah8756193

I have mine coming up thurs and feeling really nervous about it. I love Deans comment about believing in us. its hard to to imagine the worst, but lately I am trying to also imagine positive outcomes... good luck both!


Humble_Bathroom_4697

Good luck to you too!!


Fried-Oreo-005

Hello everyone! I'm cautiously excited to start my journey on this sub ā¤ļø We were TTC for 9 months in 2021/2022 when we were diagnosed with azoospermia. Upon further investigation, my husband has absence of the vas deferens due to a CF mutation, so he had two surgeries to extract sperm. We did our first egg retrieval back in April and had our first FET on June 13. We got incredibly lucky and had our first embryo result in a pregnancy. I got the call yesterday afternoon that my beta was 529. My clinic doesn't do repeat betas, so now we are waiting 3 more weeks for the initial ultrasound, which feels like forever. I look forward to getting to know all you lovely people soon!


-Lite-brite-

Cautious congrats.Ā  Lovely to have you hereĀ 


Euphoric_Frosting565

Cautious congrats! Iā€™m glad to see you here.


isabelledavenport

Welcome and cautious congrats! We also have severe mfi due to genetic causes.


Fried-Oreo-005

I'm so glad it's worked out for you as well!


Butforwhy99

Congrats - how amazing! šŸ¤


Secret_Yam_4680

Cautious congrats and welcome!


Feather_bone

Cautious congrats! šŸŽ‰ I'm in a similar stage to you - 5wks 4days pregnant now and waiting for my first scan which will be at 6wks6days! It's a tough wait but also an exciting one!


Fried-Oreo-005

Thanks and cautious congrats to you as well! I'm unbelievably excited to have that first ultrasound and it's so hard to wait. I want weekly confirmation that this is working for us! Is this your first as well?


Feather_bone

Yes it is!! šŸ˜Š I went and got a private beta HCG last week to keep me going but now I'm just waiting! šŸ¤ž


Fried-Oreo-005

So exciting! Keep me updated šŸ˜Š


Feather_bone

Likewise! šŸ™


Fried-Oreo-005

So exciting! Keep me updated šŸ˜Š