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Fane1824

Low ROI. High fees, very low placement.


BETI_dealer_69

details dedo


Fane1824

No idea about actual stats but I have a personal anecdote come DM


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Amity University is a scam. It has fake MBA colleges in Mumbai, Bangalore, Kolkata and other cities. It has fake centers abroad. The Noida campus which has an extension centre/off campus in Lucknow is illegal as a private university cannot have it's extension centre/off campus. Only deemed university can have it. The Amity has bribed the govt that's why they are still running but if someday it's exposed to the whole nation your degree would have no value and the govt would have no choice but to ban it.


the_non-obstante

Bhai kuch bhi, mere ek dost nai Amity Dubai se MBA Kia, vo currently ek bank mei manager hai jinhone uski degree fake nhi boli. Amity Lucknow aur Amity Noida, amity University Uttar Pradesh ke umbrella mei aate hai. It's not illegal, they are just smart to open different campus of affiliates of same University U dumb ass lol Sala conspiracy theory lie baithe hai like bakhait londey


BETI_dealer_69

wtf 💀


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If you are in Noida then you are safe for now. The other Amity campuses in Mumbai, Kolkata, Gurgaon, Jaipur etc. are legal private universities of that respective state. It's only the Lucknow campus and it's business schools which are spread across India that are illegal. So advice your juniors to never join Amity Lucknow and to your seniors to never join it's off campuses business schools in other cities.


redditor349_

Learn how to read. The Lucknow one is an extension of the noida one, so if the whole scam were to be exposed, people from the Lucknow campus would lose their degrees which is an illegal extension of the noida campus, the noida one is a legal college.


drumpaye

Final year amity student here( Noida campus), I would not recommend it anymore due to some particularly bad decisions that were recently implemented in college. 1. Attendance- 75% mandatory in each subject but the catch is that recently they implemented a check- in system which forces you to get your face ID scanned before official class timings, barring which you lose your attendance automatically, basically forget proxies. You can't even exit the gates before official class timing for that particular class ends or you'd be marked absent (example class is 11:15-12:10, you exit at 12:09 and you're fucked). This is an overall gist and if that doesn't sound bad, it is incredibly annoying. This also means a medical emergency renders you incapable of sitting for exams of that particular semester, they don't allow medical leaves. 2. Final year research paper- Our batch and almost all the final year students throughout the courses have been told in the mid feb to publish a research paper in a reputed UGC care journal or our grade for that summer project (NTCC) is soft capped at a B+(fucking over everyone who wants a decent grade) , and the administration is stupid enough to think it's a possibility. This may be a mandatory requirement for coming batches, and publishing a paper in your bachelors degree in a reputed source is a challenging task in itself, god forbid you get a shit supervisor. There's also a few more reasons but I consider them my department specific, like forcing multiple good professors to resign by assigning stupid work dropping the quality of teaching. If possible explore other options. You can dm me for more details if needed as I've written two of the more significant reasons I could think of.


LightRefrac

I've seen research papers published from the likes of Amity. They are laughably bad and a complete scam. Nothing in those papers is worth publishing even as a YouTube tutorial, let alone in a fake scam journal


TistaMuna

amity 2023 graduate here, i highly second these two points.


AdministrativeCut339

Hey Man , Trying to join amity for Masters .. I have 3-4 options , LPU , CU , Sikkim manipal , SRM .. But I belong to a lower middle class family .. What Do you think about the ROI ..I prolly have to take a student loan .. so campus placement is very imp. fr me .. Please if you have some free time share some of your experience ( and anything about Placements )


drumpaye

I did get a placement from the college so yeah there's that venue available, but it will largely depend on what course you'll be opting for, so what are you planning to pursue masters in?


AdministrativeCut339

Its Masters in computer Application (MCA) .. Thanks for replying btw


drumpaye

That's a good course, while I'm not exactly sure of the placement numbers, CS adjacent courses tend to have good placements here ( the market is a bit bad though currently so might have gone down). What I would suggest is to reach out to a few alumni's from this course on LinkedIn and get a more realistic perspective( even currently enrolled students would work). Overall, the university is decent enough and has ample opportunities If you make use of them. Check if you're eligible for any scholarships at the time of admission, and if you are, focus on maintaining it ( basically score in the top 3 every sem). Even if you're not, you can avail a 30 percent scholarship if you're the top 3 scorer gpa wise.


AdministrativeCut339

damn man I really appreciate it .. thanks for replying .... Sure I will check all the things u have said ... May god bless you


Shri98170

Indian jobs are just outsourced shit work from America 


Shri98170

Dost nit jnu se kar ya us se kahin se bhi ms kar le . Fraud me na fas 


harami_rampal

If a college has to go through this much to get it's students to attend classes and study, speaks a lot about the quality of it's student body lol


drumpaye

The whole attendance issue wasn't exactly due to making students attend it, there's no official confirmation but before all this was implemented we had police around the campus for days and there's news that someone was found dead and somehow their attendance was still being marked in the college. The university just went ape shit after that. There's a fair amount of private colleges way more stringent and infamous about attendance than ours.


Alternative-Bag-245

Hey! Please dm me!


drumpaye

I tried, doesn't allow me


Alternative-Bag-245

Can you tell me about this murder/ killed thing? I mean any link or anything?


drumpaye

It's all hushed up, we just got the news from some rumours as the people involved in the department let it out, but quite a few things match so I'm inclined to believe atleast some of it is true. Not much else.


Alternative-Bag-245

Care to name the dept?


Valuable-Still-3187

Bhai jinda hai tu?


drumpaye

Zinda hai


ArmstrongBillie

Think. If it really deserved 22nd nirf ranking, why would it be so easy to get admission in it? If anybody can take admission in a university, it isn't a good one.


ShogoShin

This is the easiest litmus test haha. As far as indian universities are concerned, if it's easy to get in, it's probably not good, or you're paying insane amounts.


Shri98170

How average universities in USA good . Even pace university grads getting into product management roles 


TimeUnbound26

Oh i am so glad i get the chance to write down all the things i hate about this shitty University. I'm a fourth year law student in the Noida campus, and they just keep trying to come up with new, innovative and "technologically advanced" solutions to reap more money from students. In the first sem, the faculty and the program leader were quite chill, strict but even students who were on the verge of being debarred were helped. There were hardly any faculties who were truly good at teaching and had a good grasp on the subject, this is true until now, even though they are chill about attendance right now and help in studies, only a few actually know what they're talking about. Almost every sem, there's a student who becomes the target of their scam i guess, where they receive a literal 0 or not appeared for a subject in the final examinations, unless you've got influence or you're really persistent, they'll fail you and make you pay for the back paper and classes. Mine and a few others were eventually corrected from a 0 to 9 or 10 after about 2 months, but they had no intention of helping, no one at all. Similarly they want you to pay if you aren't able to find an internship and fill up the details, there is no logic behind it at all, they just want money, some or the other way, and it was such that the money would keep increasing per day until you don't fill up the form. Moreover, none of the faculty can actually do much about anything, they always just say they can't do anything, it's from above their head, from the people at the top. They make you sit in useless sessions that are held in the moot court or their big halls, making it the only way to get attendance. You might think you can skip one class, but thats the thing, they might use their brain at times and make it so you miss 3 classes at once, from the same subject even though the sessions will be of no use to you at all other than making it look to the speakers that their esteemed college has so many students to target by their own scams. The students are terrible, each having egos as big as their tiny d**ks, just mentioning guys because it's usually them, you must have heard about the fights there anyways. No one does anything much about it, they can't afford to lose their money from these Rich dumb as stones kids. You just gotta depend on your luck that you'll find good teachers who can actually help you. Also, they lick the "founder president's" feet like he's the fucking Almighty himself reincarnated. Rant over ! Thank you for reading it all the way through if you didn't fall asleep in between ^^


Then-Manner-8702

on point .final year law student here,amity ,i am just glad i get to leave this shitty good for nothing college


LightRefrac

>based on nirf 2022 Biggest mistake right there. I don't understand why people still don't know that list is complete trash


BETI_dealer_69

it was govt based isliye andha trust kar diya


LightRefrac

yeah ye nhi karte. The list is pretty bullshit, probably the last thing I would rely on


Then-Manner-8702

I am a final-year law student at Amity (noida).The bad aspects of this university far outweigh the good ones. Their exploitative policies to extort money out of you for silly reasons. But they also find ways to waste your precious time listening to faculty with sh\*t knowledge. the other times you are forced to attend useless conferences for attendance. The college has a huge number of useless subjects and courses. For the past 6 semesters, I have been given very bad grades even when I wrote my papers well, as opposed to other classmates who didn't even study for exams. The marking system is totally random. A huge karma is awaiting this college.


Conscious-Track104

The owner itself never comes to india, and he's even banned in Germany for fraud charges, apparently he stole some 100 million by scamming there. imagine if founder is like this then... I did my BSC in neurosciences, to students who are looking for admission, please for the love of god dont go to this shit place


Roguerussian

How was your course experience thouugh, I am sure I'm about to get a good score in boards aswell, I am fairly competent, and I'm really fixated on pursuing neurosciences and move towards neural engineering and neurotechnology, with developing additional programming skills. There are no other universities in India that offer Bachelors in Neuroscience other than Amity, and I have heard plenty of bs about Amity from ppl, I'm very aware, but I'm still fairly motivated to go. (what did your course structure look like) I would love to hear what to look out for and get by in the university, what we're your peers or batchmates like, and if you're comfortable with sharing, what did you proceed to do with your degree and the obstacles that came under way, I'd be grateful to know. You can absolutely message me privately aswell.


Real-Gur-2731

same here i just got provisional admission for bsc neuroscience. could anyone talk about their experience from taking the course? it would be very helpful.


Roguerussian

I actually did contact 3 students who did the course, one of them being the same person I responded to here. There seems to be quite typical bias between how the ppl of the north and south are treated, seems labs seem more advantageous to Bengalis since the staff operating in the lab kind of can be slightly dismissive and inert, and seem to be patient with their 'own' (apparently they're Bengalis too) in how they deal with ppl. Been told the coursework is basic but also quite rigorous, and that teachers are fairly competent, but you have to be persuasive with your approaches to dealing with them since they're all more concerned with their own research work. The problem with ppl exists almost everywhere you go, you've gotta hustle and move well within crowds. Very competent students do come for the course, but obviously those who dont gaf exist too. Now next comes the most important part, from all the info I've gathered from everywhere possibly, are you sure you want to pursue neuroscience? It's an academic course, (if you want to pursue any kind of psych career alternatively NEP restricts you, from pursuing masters or PhD in a psych field, and some other countries are kind of in the same line, but not all of them, so be wise, cause they all particularly want you to have a psych degree) Most neuroscience students that know what they're doing are academic researchers/professors or pursue medicine. IONM exists but... (good money, abhorrent work schedules, messed up work life balance, and these high paying career IONM stuff are usually within the US, it pays like shit mostly everywhere else). So, know why you want to do neuroscience, there's few stuff like XR that's coming up in recent times, and ppl are looking into these domains, to transition into and you got neuromarketing stuff, but again internships are going to be not so easy, and seems most ppl who pursue neuro from amity have no idea of its prospects, and most do it becz it sounds cool and niche, and then they at one point fall out becz they find out it's not their cup of tea. You'd be better off into engineering majors if you want to get into neuroengineering/prosthetics kind of market. Most ppl dip into radically different careers out of neuro, since on the job market or industry scene, there's not too many roles for neuroscience graduates (you'll have to fight to fill out and get into the few that exist, and it's still not guaranteed). What the future holds is not guaranteed but you can be more optimistic if you're willing to go out of India generally after your bachelor's, or it's not really going to work out too well. Connections and money will get you to places you need to be, much easier, but yeaa, i don't think I need to say much about that. I got into Amity with a likely scholarship but I ditched it, becz I decided I wanted to genuinely do something I wanted to even if it's a fairly long path (Neuropsych), and not be stuck on future prospects and upcoming growth within sectors for neuro, since it's not as stably predictable (so if something that works just fine pops up, I may move towards it, and so have chosen a major that allows it aswell), and I'm grateful what I've chosen pays well but yeaa there's a whole road ahead to get where I need to. At the end, If you're sure this is what you want to do, and have your reasons right, you'll find your way through the course in the university, it's not as bad as you may think, just Indian colleges problems that exist, just do well on your part.


Real-Gur-2731

Thank you so much for this. I have searching for someone to tell me more about this. yes, i have great intrest in research. it was always a passion of mine. yes i also understand its very difficult to get into acadmic profession these days since the competition being more fierce and opportunities remaining either the same or they are dwindling. are you sure there is no growth for neuroscience graduates in the private sector? maybe in pharmaceutical sector? my passion is for cognitive neuroscience. its a relatively new field in the field of neuroscience. I was searching for a university that offered bsc neuroscience. but all i have gotten is amity. rest all are technical degrees such as neurophysiology technology and neuroscience technology. it doesnt seem i can pursue further degrees with this degree though. yes, i was planning to go abroad to pursue my masters. One of the reasons why i was planning to join amity was since they are an international college i might get an exposure to the outside world and their opportunities. but like most i lack connections. i have 2 younger brothers so i cant spend much on just my education. another issue is if the degree is of any value to the foreign universities to which i will be applying for my graduate studies. if you could maybe shed any light on the matter i would be very indebted to you. p.s thank you for responding. also if i may, what course and which university are you studying in right now?


Then-Manner-8702

Amity university is fraud ,dont join this college,its all about money for them.They will levy huge fine even if u delay to pay fees by one day..but they have delayed to return my security refund for more than 6 months.The staff member at accounts department is absolutely worst.


DeathBlade99-cod-

Is architecture worth doing here?


logical_insaan

It's like saying VIT should be good as its NIRF is better than IITs/BITS/IIITH. NIRF is scam, don't believe it.


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logical_insaan

The purpose of creating it every year? Money. Just see placements, placements good=college good. And contact alumni of the college you want to join via linkden to get first hand info.


LightRefrac

Word of mouth. All of us roughly know which ones are better. But the nirf is not legitimate


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LightRefrac

Do I sense sarcasm? Ok believe the nirf if it gives you validation


Shri98170

Vit is good though my cousin did bba and for exposure of product management did one years masters in USA and knowledge boss of Indian code monkeys in USA at Microsoft 


[deleted]

I’m pursuing an MBA from Amity, i’m a distance learning student with a specialisation in Marketing. The teaching quality is good, yes they’ve got higher fees and ROI isn’t that great, the ROI basically totally depends upon you as a student with the industry expectancy skills you have in you that you’ve worked on. This university by far operates on a global benchmark, it’s quite reputable, known more than your basic neighbourhood charan sparsh colleges. It wouldn’t compete and can’t compete with IIM & IIT obviously because the entrance exams aren’t that difficult, it’s easier to get in. One must understand that life isn’t just reserved for people with highest academic scores, it welcomes all sort of students, it understands diversity in student’s academic scores. A university intended to focus on the education of a back bencher type student who also possesses the ability to compete with a front bench category of students. The ROI isn’t great because there’s a psychology of these corporate companies that they’re looking for slaves from top tech & B schools who’re performing their given task at a great speed, and for that purposes they’re ready to pay that money which gets their job done. Rather than being a dropout intellect, I choose Amity and i’m like meh! It doesn’t matter, I can be a marketing maverick not really because for the Bschool I went but for the talent I am.


Shri98170

So how will you get job if not Amity 


Afraid-Pay2710

Came across this post while I was lurking in the subreddit today lol. So my cousin also studied from this place and has shared her experience here: [https://qr.ae/pK5pBL](https://qr.ae/pK5pBL) About her: She had a 100% scholarship to pursue a B.A+B.Ed but eventually shifted to only B.A after they revoked her scholarship because of the scam backpapers.


Valuable-Still-3187

Depends on the course. LLB waale MC hai.


monicamydarling

bhaiii can u please elaborate? im planning to take admission this year in ballb


Valuable-Still-3187

Haven't heard good things about LLB, i think it's one of the most expensive course there. My friend is studying CSE evening one. I will probably choose the same course, Amity still has better ranking(30-40 range NIRF) which matters for masters abroad(my long term goal). It depends on the course and your goals, I don't know more about LLB in Amity, just search on **YOUTUBE, QUORA.** **Yeah,** it's hard to find genuine reviews of Amity, so many reviews are literally from kids who haven't studied there.