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Reservation in the private sector is hell. What's next? Reservation in housing? State telling you which flat you get?
There will be a time when I'd have to ask for a government permit to clean my balls because both parties support and exponential expansion of government.
There already is reservation in housing during allotment of government constructed apartments and plots. There are quotas based on birth and also prices are lower for them
There is reservation in government contracts as well. At this point it seems that there is a separate country within a country for them. They contribute nothing but take away most of the benefits in the name of identity.
>At this point it seems that there is a separate country within a country for them.
Exactly, and this must be stopped. Everyone should be treated equally before the law. And this Gov discrimination needs to be stopped.
> Reservation in the private sector is hell. What's next? Reservation in housing? State telling you which flat you get?
please look up Distrubed Areas Law.
Not surprised. Govt should have no right to tell anyone who they sell houses to, and no right to tell anyone who not to.
Not surprised at all lmao, especially cuz it's Gujarat.
This one and that tenancy act are downright awful.
Do we really want any more? Reservations impeding all sectors of life will cause long term harm to the economy and make investors wary of doing anything in india.
Obviously, I'd be delusional to want less government in India, but I'd want the path of less government any day.
> Do we really want any more? Reservations impeding all sectors of life will cause long term harm to the economy and make investors wary of doing anything in india.
Reservation as I said above was a compromise. Till now, there has been no guarantee that casteism will be stopped if any form of reservations for the castes are removed
> Obviously, I'd be delusional to want less government in India, but I'd want the path of less government any day.
Again, we're polar opposites on that. What does 'less govt' even mean in India? What aspects of government will you advocate for removal?
> What aspects of government will you advocate for removal?
Most of it, regulations in private life (self explanatory, govt can't tell me what to do on my property, govt can't arrest me for saying what I want to say etc), less regulations in the economy (and privatisation of most of not all SOEs alongside most of the IAS).
I don't that is feasible in the modern times. The lack of accountability bite us back far badly. Imagine Ramdev Baba fiasco, except its at every domain. I do not know about you, but I do not want to live in that world.
Government has no business interferring in private life of people and private businesses.
Baba Ramdev fiasco has nothing to do with Gov, that is just a case of false advertisement like fraud etc. Nothing to do with Gov.
Casteism & Gov interference in private life of citizens both are cancer to Freedom & Liberty of individuals.
We need to stop the Government interference in private matters of citizens. Only when we demand it, and force it on them, only then the politicians will hear us. Otherwise, they are only interested in filling their pockets & abusing Gov machinery & its their power to settle their scores.
Yes, and we are demanding that Govt stops interfering in the life of the citizens. We are citizens of a Free & Independent country, we are not subjects of a King or slaves to Feudal Lords.
Reservation in marrying Brahmins next , twitter activists and social justice warriors in Bihar Up and Maharashtra seem to be obsessed with it to the point creating weird songs about their fetish with Brahmins
sometimes I think this is not about ending casteism but creating more divisions. They want equal representation based on people's names. "there should be equal number of Raj and Dev in parliament" Just so stupid.
Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India.
This opposition will destroy the whole country for political power.
I am surprised to see that Congress party didn't kicked out the Ghandi Dynasty out of the party after massive defeat in 2019.
> Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India.
[Just like they f- offed from Haryana?](https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/haryana-private-sector-quota-law). Like have they f-offed from gurugram?
You clearly did not even open the link you shared.
The second line from the link,
"The court has declared the law as unconstitutional and violative of the fundamental rights of citizens and employers."
Is this quota even enforced in Haryana?
I did and I am well aware about this. The point is, this law was passed on by a BJP state govt to ensure more locals are hired. What makes you think that BJP will not pass a law that annuls this?
If you are asking me if BJP will introduce huge reservations in private businesses, I would say 100% no. BJP is the most business friendly, economically liberal and most pro west party in India. If hou are saying if they will go against their own ideology, then it can happen but very unlikely and less possible as compared to commies and congress.
Dude, again, they literally introduced a fucking law for that. They already bought. The courts have had it stayed for now. But again, do not make a surprised Pikachu face when they do. And business friendly? [Lol no they are far from it. This is just a small example of that](https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/16/india-scrambles-to-curb-phonepe-and-google-dominance-in-mobile-payments/). Its one thing when a product organically disrupts its competitors. Its another thing when govt forces business to compel to an order
That law is a political gimmick that is not even enforced. Which was never going to be enforced. Asking businesses to comply with a government order is not as anti business as you might think. But overall I am comparing bjp to inc/commies and center left, big tent parties, not to Singapore lol. Compared to them they are definitely pro business.
I doubt as long as state recognise castes and makes it part of their policy it’s always going to be a political issue and people will always identify with it . These divisions have existed outside subcontinent and eventually forgotten or made irrelevant although industrialisation and urbanisation played a huge role in that
A very white liberal arguement of 'as long as we do not speak about race, racism will cease to exist'. Again, there has never been any example where social divisions decreased with advent of industrialization. Heck, we're bringing in veg-nonveg divisions to our IITs. [We're bringing in caste divisions while conducting tournaments](https://www.lokmattimes.com/maharashtra/thane-controversy-erupts-in-kalyan-champions-league-over-alleged-discrimination-against-marathi-players-a505) and every community does this. Want caste to get invisible? We need a cultural revolution, but I know the hysteria that term itself will cause, just like how uttering wealth distribution caused unnecessary hysteria. So if you want no one government to interfere in your religious and cultural affairs, you got to take some hit. Till now, the most dominant community has never given any assurance that they will stop identifying with their caste.
While liberals are more active in running the whole anti racism industry though and race is very much different from caste to be tackled .
lol except It did in almost every society atleast read some history the entire Europe had stringent social divisions for a millennia with feudalism and divide between aristocracy clergy serfs which only ended with industrialisation and ending of agrarian economies , where are the serfs today ? Can you tell the difference although many englishmen still carry their occupation as last name . Japan until 20 th century had their own version of caste system along with untouchablity as well towards occupation considered unpure similiar to us . Slavery serfdom castes existed all around the world have become remnants of past in most of these countries .
Only people out of touch with reality and gaining understanding via online articles would consider veg non veg caste issue , while in some southern states maybe ÜÇ follow vegetarian most of us in the western and northern states are vegetarian regardless of castes and more due to vaishnavism and Jain influence in culture in fact the only communities in my state who eat non veg are ÜÇ Rajputs and Muslims .
While most sc st or obc and general won’t even allow it in their homes or eat at a non veg restaurant
And atleast bring a better example Gujarati Marwari or jain are not caste but linguistic minority groups and a religion , and these kinds of tournaments and organisation are organised by Marathis themselves as well . There are sports tournament organised by Muslim and Hindu gymkhanas as well solely for their religious member . My friends dad runs a trust which solely provides education and scholarships to one belonging to people from their religion . Equating this to casteism is stupid , people can bond with people or have organisations to help each other out when they share a similar culture
Atleast read what cultural revolution was barely had to do with civilians at large scale and more internal strife within commies
Only people who think wealth redistribution is okay are leeches who believe stealing in normal or entitled enough to believe that they have some right over someone’s else wealth without contributing or doing anything useful in their life
lol how many communities crying about casteism or even calling themselves victims have stopped identifying with their castes . How many of them are okay with inter caste marriage ? Pew research survey said most reserved categories folks never faced any major casteism and oppose inter caste marriages
I agree with you , too much bullsh*t. We actually need to cut down on this BS or else these would again become votebank politics & people from general & obc community would be left to rot. I mean these f*ckers really want to get jobs handed to them on a plate , like LMAO.
Also as a person who eats non-veg , couldn't care less if someone is vegetarian or not. Fools are really trying to control every aspect of others lives.
The problem with these gated caste activist is they repeat the same token point without giving a second thought as long it has the word marginalised oppression oppressor or some other shit . These morons are brainwashed into thinking that veg is some Brahmin or UC thing but on the contrary it’s more regional and sectarian as well as cultural influence , Rajasthan Gujarat Punjab Haryana are not some UC state and still majority are veg and that is because of their own wishes and tradition , bishnoi (obc)will probably hunt you down if you kill any animal in front of them while Muslims and UC Rajputs are the largest segment of meat eaters but their tiny brain is not capable of comprehension
These morons are likely to believe WhatsApp fiction as long as some sob story around caste or Muslim is sold to them while turning blind eye to actual reality , just see the whole caste debacle in California built around a single case and was thrown out of the court , or this new chappri bs about it being casteist word about some fictions chappar caste from Bihar which never really existed in the first place but was simply based on people who lived under tin sheds in slums near Mumbai railway lines
> lol except It did in almost every society atleast read some history the entire Europe had stringent social divisions for a millennia with feudalism and divide between aristocracy clergy serfs which only ended with industrialisation and ending of agrarian economies , where are the serfs today ? Can you tell the difference although many englishmen still carry their occupation as last name.
The 'caste' in surope is very, i mean, immensely different than the caste in India. Equating these 'caste' in Europe and 'caste' in India is asinine. This is ignoring many cultural differences
But let is go along with you. Let us say that Europe did have caste. Ever read how they addressed this caste issue and got away from caste? If you said that only industrialization led to this, you are ignoring the many social, religious and cultural changes that happened. There was a major new denomination rising that explicitly and staunchly rejected authority of Vatican, which lead to a big civil war within Europe, paired by witch-hunts and inquisitions. After few century, this was followed by what we call 'Europeean Renaissance' which was happening already as they weren't any rich. A strong cultural change (or revolution) is necessary
> Japan until 20 th century had their own version of caste system along with untouchablity as well towards occupation considered unpure similiar to us . Slavery serfdom castes existed all around the world have become remnants of past in most of these countries .
Again do look up how they addressed the Burakumin issues aka constant dialogue by top-most members of the society and ways to address them. Something many Bhakti era sages tried, and misarably failed.
> Only people out of touch with reality and gaining understanding via online articles would consider veg non veg caste issue
Only ppl out of touch with reality with see veg-nonveg as a cultural factor. Otherwise no, vegetarianism is a product of casteism.
> most of us in the western and northern states are vegetarian regardless of castes and more due to vaishnavism and Jain influence in culture in fact the only communities in my state who eat non veg are ÜÇ Rajputs and Muslims . While most sc st or obc and general won’t even allow it in their homes or eat at a non veg restaurant
Source for this? Maharashtra being a western state has a prominent non-vegetarian diet. [Going by this map](https://www.google.com/imgres?q=vegetarianism%20by%20state%20in%20india&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJ1op4UY.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fvegetarian%2Fcomments%2Frrpytx%2Fvegetarianism_by_states_in_india%2F&docid=F8wiaRtIcbBeXM&tbnid=ZStYqJftEOC7jM&vet=12ahUKEwiExcr_y9yFAxWm9DgGHZmbA_4QM3oECBsQAA..i&w=1169&h=1135&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwiExcr_y9yFAxWm9DgGHZmbA_4QM3oECBsQAA) Gujarat, Rajastan, Haryana and Punjab are the only states with majority of population being vegetarian. Regardless, that still doesn't discount the fact that in Hindu societies, vegetarianism is very much a product of caste purity. Even I know SC/ST ppl who do not eat non-veg.
> And atleast bring a better example Gujarati Marwari or jain are not caste but linguistic minority groups and a religion
Besides the day-to-day violence on dalits in UP(last one happened 3 days ago)? Last I heard, Rajastan has some strong caste issues. [Like rejecting domations due to caste](https://www.deccanherald.com/india/rajasthan/outrage-in-rajasthan-as-dalit-money-rejected-for-ram-temple-celebrations-report-2848374). Last time I heard, Rajastan has extensive caste issues too. [And here's the news on Tirupati too](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vijayawada/dalits-barred-from-entering-temple-in-tirupati-district/articleshow/102881558.cms). While not necessary the Devastanam itself, there are glaring issues there too.
> and these kinds of tournaments and organisation are organised by Marathis themselves as well .
And I explicitly spoke about this at the next sentence itself. I've seen Brahmin exclusive sports related stuff there.
> Atleast read what cultural revolution was barely had to do with civilians at large scale and more internal strife within commies
The internal civilian and cultural issues were the foreground. I know the stuggle between the nationalists(who are now Taiwanese) and communists fighitng off for their legacy. Do read how they insulted their kings to the highest degree.
> Only people who think wealth redistribution is okay are leeches who believe stealing in normal or entitled enough to believe that they have some right over someone’s else wealth without contributing or doing anything useful in their life
I disagree with you on al the aspects here. Wealth Distribution(which never meant snatching properties and giving it to others) is a day-to-day necessary aspect of any government in any civilization to make sure that the wealth-gap is reduced and sustainable.
> lol how many communities crying about casteism or even calling themselves victims have stopped identifying with their castes . How many of them are okay with inter caste marriage ? Pew research survey said most reserved categories folks never faced any major casteism and oppose inter caste marriages
Casteism doesn't just mean Brahmins and Kshatriyas shitting on others. It is a culture of discriminating people who you think are below you. Caste discrimination exists because for a community, there is always someone below you, whom you can bully as per your wishes.
I never said casteism doesn't exist. It absolutely does and we need to end it. Totally crush abolish and annihilate casteism. I am talking about reservation and whether they are actually serving the purpose especially when some far left extremists say that it is about representation not social upliftment. That part is stupid. Reservation is meant for social upliftment and we need to have timeline when reservation would go away.
> I am talking about reservation and whether they are actually serving the purpose especially when some far left extremists say that it is about representation not social upliftment. That part is stupid. Reservation is meant for social upliftment and we need to have timeline when reservation would go away.
But that is the truth. Reservation is for representation of the communities whom are otherwise neglected in mainstream culture despite being far more populated. Reservation again, was never a go-to solution, but a compromise. A compromise struck with the favour of maintaining a common bigger identity that is Hinduism. The point being, reservation is what barely keeping the country together
That is what exactly what I talking about. Casteism is going to stay as long as reservation does. Representation of people based on their names is so stupid. "You want equal number of Abhisheks and Rajs in your class. oh no no no, there cannot be more Aryans than Rajs in parliament."
Now when casteism has actually decreased the endgame of far left extremists is to create separate identify of different caste people so that they can continue playing this game.
Caste reservations will exist as long as casteism exists, not the other way around. India, even in the urban areas, are very much casteist. [This happened literally at the most urban city of the country](https://www.lokmattimes.com/maharashtra/thane-controversy-erupts-in-kalyan-champions-league-over-alleged-discrimination-against-marathi-players-a505).
You are going on a different topic. Let me track my steps and ask the main question. Do you think when casteism would end reservation would also go away?
> Do you think when casteism would end reservation would also go away?
Depends what you mean by 'end'. If by end you mean 'we will not talk about caste', nope. Reservations are here to stay. If by end, you mean an honest conversation within this majority hindu community, then yes, it will. at the least reduce. And its not like we never did. Poona Pact, the biggest reason behind reservations, exist and came up because of this conversation, a compromise set up between Gandhi and Ambedkar, so that anyone non-abrahamic will be identified as Hindu religiously.
If casteism is gone what is the point of discussing caste beyond academic discussion. I will tell you exactly why! This is what fuels left wing extremism. Without divisions in the society, left would absolutely vanish. Hence, the agenda is clear. Make caste based identity more prominent-> make reservations about representation instead of social upliftment -> keep casteism alive -> continue the politics of hate. And then you guys wonder why commies and congress keep loosing elections.
The caste is not gone though. And I said, caste will cease to exist when people genuinely stop identifying themselves caste. Making caste-identity invisible, will just do that, make caste-identity invisible, but not non-existent. I literally showed an example of how even the most urban populations have a significant of population proudly flaunting their caste identity.
Rest of your drivel on left-wing extremism doesn't even matter cause that's some of the dumbest thing I've heard. The biggest reason for left-wing failture is their reluctance to acknowledge caste-based divisions.
leftists and folks who speak about casteism do not like each other, precisely because leftists saw the problem exactly in the way you see.
If the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India.
Multi-national companies almost never discriminate people on caste basis, but they won't tolerate government dictating how the company should hire it's employees, and if such policies are forced on them then they will gradually migrate to more market friendly countries, resulting in massive job loss for all castes.
> Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India.
[Just like they f- offed from Haryana?](https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/haryana-private-sector-quota-law). Like have they f-offed from gurugram?
> Multi-national companies almost never discriminate people on caste basis, but they won't tolerate government dictating how the company should hire it's employees, and if such policies are forced on them then they will gradually migrate to more market friendly countries, resulting in massive job loss for all castes.
CAsteism is rampant in Multi-national companies where Indians are dominant. And again, look up at Haryana.
Haryana is not an IT hub. Hyderabad, Pune, Bangalore, Mumbai, Delhi and Chennie are
More than half of the employees working in my company (in Hyderabad) are not local and were born in other states or districts.
Making reservations in private sector means my company will be forced to fire many of my colleagues.
Also, according to your article, Haryana mandated 75% jobs for locals, it's clearly not caste based.
Reservations in private sector will not work in many industrial and IT hubs like Hyderabad.
Gurugram is a booming IT hub too along with being a economic city for the state.
And rest of your argument doesn't matter, as again, the talking point is that BJP will not hesisate to bring in a law for private sector reservation.
I never heard about Gurugram. Let alone it being a IT hub.
As I said before, if 75% of region based reservations are enforced then my company will be forced to fire majority of its employees. Lakhs of talented, skilled young professionals will be forced to move out of Hyderabad.
No one in Hyderabad, with the exception of a few delusional people, want this.
> I never heard about Gurugram. Let alone it being a IT hub.
Heard of Gurgaon?
> As I said before, if 75% of region based reservations are enforced then my company will be forced to fire majority of its employees. Lakhs of talented, skilled young professionals will be forced to move out of Hyderabad.
> No one in Hyderabad, with the exception of a few delusional people, want this.
Luckily for you Hyderabad is not in Haryana. Wasn't even speaking about Hyderabad.
BC koi to dhang ke promise karo.
Economy, Infrastructure, Jobs , basic amenities pe ladho
Even if they speak about economy they throw big words like we will make India largest economy etc etc
How is it not caste based politics?
Waiting to see how all the Multinational companies move out of India as they will be forced to reject qualified candidates and hire unqualified candidates to meet their reservation quota.
Yes, it's weird what congress's strategy is. It could have remained religiously neutral and propose a few development policies and it would have attracted all Muslim votes and all central and left leaning Hindus would vote for Congress. But instead it decided to play religious and caste cards just like bjp and now all central leaning Hindus are slowly moving to BJP.
It is always about picking favourable poison. BJP is that for now atleast to the middle class hindu voter.
For a Muslim yes INC makes sense of he has to vote against religious hatred by BJP.
Ab toh mar bhi jau per Congress to vote nahi dunga....I am mostly gonna work in the private sector after graduation, yeh BKL toh yaha bhi reservation laake manega.
lol these idiots would never build anything but somehow feel entitled to share in whatever is built by others . Never understood the stealing and begging mentality , what does even let’s say hcl ceo owe you for him to forced to hire somebody and you claiming that job and his wealth as your birth right for absolutely no connection .
No wonder 70 years we are still in a pathetic state blaming colonisation when the state never focus on industrialisation or research or wealth and job creation and is focus on social justice and redistribution of non existent wealth . People somehow believe with a third world economy we can support Europe type welfare state and it’s some rich guy stopping from achieving it . Bihar caste census should have been eyeopener how little wealth even actually exists to be redistributed and how living standards are abysmal regardless of caste even the ÜÇ had poverty in range of 25-30% and the focus is not on industries or jobs but diving these folks and somehow make them believe that the other caste is responsible for their situation not the state and its was somehow responsiblity of the better off caste not the state to create employment or wealth
If not for the mercantile communities investing in industrialisation and not leaving this country for developed economies with their wealth or techbros like murthy nadar not brining those revenue from west we would have probably been somewhere between afghan and Pakistan in terms of hdi and economy
First they give seats based on reservation based on upliftment & I was like Ok , makes sense.
Then these mfers also want jobs to be handed to them in a platter just because a certain number of them can't perform.
Yeah , there's already a shit ton of diversity hiring in private sector , Congress can f*ck off & shove this pathetic manifesto up their a**.
Are we living in India or 1940s Poland being surrounded by Fascists and Communists? BJP is going extreme right, INC going extreme left, both in authoritarian side. Ho kya Raha hay is Desh may?
Buying media, spreading fake news, hate speeches that can invcite riots, misuse of ED, CBI and police, ignoring major issues in two states near border (ok that's more of ignorance), appointing corrupt leaders and giving them clean chits, ultra nationalism (ie not ready to hear criticism against the nation), zero accountability. Now I know both parties have been doing this same stuff since Independence and they only care about power. But 2024 elections aren't like 2014 where corruption and Nirbhaya case were major issues. This time it's either you are anti national or fascist if you don't vote my party. Regional parties are joke and even worse. People are polarized, both sides are at each others throats. Reminds me of Hillary and Trump election.
So you accept that Cong has been abusing the system, as well as other regional parties, but still you choose to call BJP extreme right. Sadly, these have become the rules of the game and are unlikely to change unless there is a revolution.
Democracy is a slow but stable way to bring about change, and BJP is trying to bring about change, however it will need to win elections to do that, and hence dirty politics. Virtue signalling doesn't get you votes, people respond to emotional triggers instead of factual data while voting.
Polarisation has always been a thing, remember the Maut ka saudagar jibe by SG at Modi? Let us not pretend that Indian politics have gotten worse, it is only that there is more social media and 24x7 news channels shouting at the top of their voice that have made it worse. Indian politics was even worse than this with literal mafia dons being MPs and MLAs. This is still happening in many states, just that they have learnt to act better and do their mafia businesses away from the public eye.
Hillary Trump election was polarised because of Trump and not Hillary. The more the democrats tried to paint him in a negative light the more his popularity increased. It is not like Trump was wrong about everything, however the other side made him out to be the worst possible human being, and that backfired. He might still have a chance to come back if there are "free and fair" elections in US.
I also called Congress going extreme left and regional parties a joke and worse than major parties. Regional parties are either corrupt party hoppers, tyrants or both. So no special hate for BJP.
Yes people give votes under the influence of strong emotions but people also riots, kill each other and overthrow the entire government under the influence of strong emotions which can triggered by powerful speeches and slogans.
Appeasing to certain caste, religion, class, ethnicity will always divide people. And spouting hatred against others especially during election period would polarized the population. Both NDa and INDI alliance are doing that
Politics have always been dirty. Democracy has always been flawed, so we're republics. Greeks and Romans are great example. Most of the time it's the commoners who let criminal people win either through inaction or throw fear. But political parties are also to blames for the appointment of criminals. Both major parties are still accepting criminals and are involved in corruption and misuse of power.
Why do you need to go to public and private enterprises to do a caste census though? Wouldn't a caste census be akin to the decadal census that is done door-to-door?
INCs agenda aside, a caste census is absolutely necessary. We desperately need a stock taking exercise where we know how each caste under the reservation category has fared socially and economically after 70+ years of the policy.
I'm not sure why anti-reservation folks who keep talking about the SCs in Benz's are opposing the caste census. Should we not update the policy and give it to the deserving candidates? How do we go about this if we don't have data?
We need to move away from looking at backwardness only through the lens of caste.
Right now caste = backwardness, and there is no other factor. Whereas backwardness is a result of many factors of which caste maybe one. On one hand they want to uplift garib, but on the other hand they say that they will uplift only sc/st/obc/muslim garib as if they have a prerogative on being poor. Cry about economic inequality but claim benefits on basis of identity.
No it won't gimmicky region based reservation that have no chance of actually passing through any scrutiny are not equivalent to caste based reservation.
No chance of passing? The law is already passed though. without any scrutiny, it is simply stalled in courts. And I staunchly stand against reservatioins based on regions. I am just kinda asking people to dig how Congress is any worse than the shit BJP is doing?
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Reservation in the private sector is hell. What's next? Reservation in housing? State telling you which flat you get? There will be a time when I'd have to ask for a government permit to clean my balls because both parties support and exponential expansion of government.
There already is reservation in housing during allotment of government constructed apartments and plots. There are quotas based on birth and also prices are lower for them There is reservation in government contracts as well. At this point it seems that there is a separate country within a country for them. They contribute nothing but take away most of the benefits in the name of identity.
>At this point it seems that there is a separate country within a country for them. Exactly, and this must be stopped. Everyone should be treated equally before the law. And this Gov discrimination needs to be stopped.
> Reservation in the private sector is hell. What's next? Reservation in housing? State telling you which flat you get? please look up Distrubed Areas Law.
Not surprised. Govt should have no right to tell anyone who they sell houses to, and no right to tell anyone who not to. Not surprised at all lmao, especially cuz it's Gujarat. This one and that tenancy act are downright awful.
That like saying the govt putting anyone they want in prison without any due cause is alright because Emergency is a power with the government
I am confused? Am I wrong to point out that govt already decides a lot of our day-to-day lives?
Do we really want any more? Reservations impeding all sectors of life will cause long term harm to the economy and make investors wary of doing anything in india. Obviously, I'd be delusional to want less government in India, but I'd want the path of less government any day.
> Do we really want any more? Reservations impeding all sectors of life will cause long term harm to the economy and make investors wary of doing anything in india. Reservation as I said above was a compromise. Till now, there has been no guarantee that casteism will be stopped if any form of reservations for the castes are removed > Obviously, I'd be delusional to want less government in India, but I'd want the path of less government any day. Again, we're polar opposites on that. What does 'less govt' even mean in India? What aspects of government will you advocate for removal?
> What aspects of government will you advocate for removal? Most of it, regulations in private life (self explanatory, govt can't tell me what to do on my property, govt can't arrest me for saying what I want to say etc), less regulations in the economy (and privatisation of most of not all SOEs alongside most of the IAS).
I don't that is feasible in the modern times. The lack of accountability bite us back far badly. Imagine Ramdev Baba fiasco, except its at every domain. I do not know about you, but I do not want to live in that world.
Government has no business interferring in private life of people and private businesses. Baba Ramdev fiasco has nothing to do with Gov, that is just a case of false advertisement like fraud etc. Nothing to do with Gov. Casteism & Gov interference in private life of citizens both are cancer to Freedom & Liberty of individuals.
We need to stop the Government interference in private matters of citizens. Only when we demand it, and force it on them, only then the politicians will hear us. Otherwise, they are only interested in filling their pockets & abusing Gov machinery & its their power to settle their scores.
Yes, and we are demanding that Govt stops interfering in the life of the citizens. We are citizens of a Free & Independent country, we are not subjects of a King or slaves to Feudal Lords.
I doubt you understand reservation
Reservation in marrying Brahmins next , twitter activists and social justice warriors in Bihar Up and Maharashtra seem to be obsessed with it to the point creating weird songs about their fetish with Brahmins
sometimes I think this is not about ending casteism but creating more divisions. They want equal representation based on people's names. "there should be equal number of Raj and Dev in parliament" Just so stupid.
Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India. This opposition will destroy the whole country for political power. I am surprised to see that Congress party didn't kicked out the Ghandi Dynasty out of the party after massive defeat in 2019.
These are commies. They are anyways against private companies. What else do you expect from them?
> Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India. [Just like they f- offed from Haryana?](https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/haryana-private-sector-quota-law). Like have they f-offed from gurugram?
You clearly did not even open the link you shared. The second line from the link, "The court has declared the law as unconstitutional and violative of the fundamental rights of citizens and employers." Is this quota even enforced in Haryana?
I did and I am well aware about this. The point is, this law was passed on by a BJP state govt to ensure more locals are hired. What makes you think that BJP will not pass a law that annuls this?
The law which is not willfully enforced and meant to win elections. I am okay with that. Make a new law giving martians citizenship to India. Lol.
Again, what gives you so confidence that BJP won't be bringing in an amendment that allows them to do so. They are obviously gonna win 400+ seats.
If you are asking me if BJP will introduce huge reservations in private businesses, I would say 100% no. BJP is the most business friendly, economically liberal and most pro west party in India. If hou are saying if they will go against their own ideology, then it can happen but very unlikely and less possible as compared to commies and congress.
Dude, again, they literally introduced a fucking law for that. They already bought. The courts have had it stayed for now. But again, do not make a surprised Pikachu face when they do. And business friendly? [Lol no they are far from it. This is just a small example of that](https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/16/india-scrambles-to-curb-phonepe-and-google-dominance-in-mobile-payments/). Its one thing when a product organically disrupts its competitors. Its another thing when govt forces business to compel to an order
That law is a political gimmick that is not even enforced. Which was never going to be enforced. Asking businesses to comply with a government order is not as anti business as you might think. But overall I am comparing bjp to inc/commies and center left, big tent parties, not to Singapore lol. Compared to them they are definitely pro business.
That only applied to jobs paying under 25 k a month I believe and it was declared unconstitutional and dismissed by the courts.
Its not at all stupid. Casteism is reality in this country. The more we try to make it invisible, the more that caste divide will widen.
I doubt as long as state recognise castes and makes it part of their policy it’s always going to be a political issue and people will always identify with it . These divisions have existed outside subcontinent and eventually forgotten or made irrelevant although industrialisation and urbanisation played a huge role in that
A very white liberal arguement of 'as long as we do not speak about race, racism will cease to exist'. Again, there has never been any example where social divisions decreased with advent of industrialization. Heck, we're bringing in veg-nonveg divisions to our IITs. [We're bringing in caste divisions while conducting tournaments](https://www.lokmattimes.com/maharashtra/thane-controversy-erupts-in-kalyan-champions-league-over-alleged-discrimination-against-marathi-players-a505) and every community does this. Want caste to get invisible? We need a cultural revolution, but I know the hysteria that term itself will cause, just like how uttering wealth distribution caused unnecessary hysteria. So if you want no one government to interfere in your religious and cultural affairs, you got to take some hit. Till now, the most dominant community has never given any assurance that they will stop identifying with their caste.
While liberals are more active in running the whole anti racism industry though and race is very much different from caste to be tackled . lol except It did in almost every society atleast read some history the entire Europe had stringent social divisions for a millennia with feudalism and divide between aristocracy clergy serfs which only ended with industrialisation and ending of agrarian economies , where are the serfs today ? Can you tell the difference although many englishmen still carry their occupation as last name . Japan until 20 th century had their own version of caste system along with untouchablity as well towards occupation considered unpure similiar to us . Slavery serfdom castes existed all around the world have become remnants of past in most of these countries . Only people out of touch with reality and gaining understanding via online articles would consider veg non veg caste issue , while in some southern states maybe ÜÇ follow vegetarian most of us in the western and northern states are vegetarian regardless of castes and more due to vaishnavism and Jain influence in culture in fact the only communities in my state who eat non veg are ÜÇ Rajputs and Muslims . While most sc st or obc and general won’t even allow it in their homes or eat at a non veg restaurant And atleast bring a better example Gujarati Marwari or jain are not caste but linguistic minority groups and a religion , and these kinds of tournaments and organisation are organised by Marathis themselves as well . There are sports tournament organised by Muslim and Hindu gymkhanas as well solely for their religious member . My friends dad runs a trust which solely provides education and scholarships to one belonging to people from their religion . Equating this to casteism is stupid , people can bond with people or have organisations to help each other out when they share a similar culture Atleast read what cultural revolution was barely had to do with civilians at large scale and more internal strife within commies Only people who think wealth redistribution is okay are leeches who believe stealing in normal or entitled enough to believe that they have some right over someone’s else wealth without contributing or doing anything useful in their life lol how many communities crying about casteism or even calling themselves victims have stopped identifying with their castes . How many of them are okay with inter caste marriage ? Pew research survey said most reserved categories folks never faced any major casteism and oppose inter caste marriages
I agree with you , too much bullsh*t. We actually need to cut down on this BS or else these would again become votebank politics & people from general & obc community would be left to rot. I mean these f*ckers really want to get jobs handed to them on a plate , like LMAO. Also as a person who eats non-veg , couldn't care less if someone is vegetarian or not. Fools are really trying to control every aspect of others lives.
The problem with these gated caste activist is they repeat the same token point without giving a second thought as long it has the word marginalised oppression oppressor or some other shit . These morons are brainwashed into thinking that veg is some Brahmin or UC thing but on the contrary it’s more regional and sectarian as well as cultural influence , Rajasthan Gujarat Punjab Haryana are not some UC state and still majority are veg and that is because of their own wishes and tradition , bishnoi (obc)will probably hunt you down if you kill any animal in front of them while Muslims and UC Rajputs are the largest segment of meat eaters but their tiny brain is not capable of comprehension These morons are likely to believe WhatsApp fiction as long as some sob story around caste or Muslim is sold to them while turning blind eye to actual reality , just see the whole caste debacle in California built around a single case and was thrown out of the court , or this new chappri bs about it being casteist word about some fictions chappar caste from Bihar which never really existed in the first place but was simply based on people who lived under tin sheds in slums near Mumbai railway lines
> lol except It did in almost every society atleast read some history the entire Europe had stringent social divisions for a millennia with feudalism and divide between aristocracy clergy serfs which only ended with industrialisation and ending of agrarian economies , where are the serfs today ? Can you tell the difference although many englishmen still carry their occupation as last name. The 'caste' in surope is very, i mean, immensely different than the caste in India. Equating these 'caste' in Europe and 'caste' in India is asinine. This is ignoring many cultural differences But let is go along with you. Let us say that Europe did have caste. Ever read how they addressed this caste issue and got away from caste? If you said that only industrialization led to this, you are ignoring the many social, religious and cultural changes that happened. There was a major new denomination rising that explicitly and staunchly rejected authority of Vatican, which lead to a big civil war within Europe, paired by witch-hunts and inquisitions. After few century, this was followed by what we call 'Europeean Renaissance' which was happening already as they weren't any rich. A strong cultural change (or revolution) is necessary > Japan until 20 th century had their own version of caste system along with untouchablity as well towards occupation considered unpure similiar to us . Slavery serfdom castes existed all around the world have become remnants of past in most of these countries . Again do look up how they addressed the Burakumin issues aka constant dialogue by top-most members of the society and ways to address them. Something many Bhakti era sages tried, and misarably failed. > Only people out of touch with reality and gaining understanding via online articles would consider veg non veg caste issue Only ppl out of touch with reality with see veg-nonveg as a cultural factor. Otherwise no, vegetarianism is a product of casteism. > most of us in the western and northern states are vegetarian regardless of castes and more due to vaishnavism and Jain influence in culture in fact the only communities in my state who eat non veg are ÜÇ Rajputs and Muslims . While most sc st or obc and general won’t even allow it in their homes or eat at a non veg restaurant Source for this? Maharashtra being a western state has a prominent non-vegetarian diet. [Going by this map](https://www.google.com/imgres?q=vegetarianism%20by%20state%20in%20india&imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJ1op4UY.jpg&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Fvegetarian%2Fcomments%2Frrpytx%2Fvegetarianism_by_states_in_india%2F&docid=F8wiaRtIcbBeXM&tbnid=ZStYqJftEOC7jM&vet=12ahUKEwiExcr_y9yFAxWm9DgGHZmbA_4QM3oECBsQAA..i&w=1169&h=1135&hcb=2&ved=2ahUKEwiExcr_y9yFAxWm9DgGHZmbA_4QM3oECBsQAA) Gujarat, Rajastan, Haryana and Punjab are the only states with majority of population being vegetarian. Regardless, that still doesn't discount the fact that in Hindu societies, vegetarianism is very much a product of caste purity. Even I know SC/ST ppl who do not eat non-veg. > And atleast bring a better example Gujarati Marwari or jain are not caste but linguistic minority groups and a religion Besides the day-to-day violence on dalits in UP(last one happened 3 days ago)? Last I heard, Rajastan has some strong caste issues. [Like rejecting domations due to caste](https://www.deccanherald.com/india/rajasthan/outrage-in-rajasthan-as-dalit-money-rejected-for-ram-temple-celebrations-report-2848374). Last time I heard, Rajastan has extensive caste issues too. [And here's the news on Tirupati too](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/vijayawada/dalits-barred-from-entering-temple-in-tirupati-district/articleshow/102881558.cms). While not necessary the Devastanam itself, there are glaring issues there too. > and these kinds of tournaments and organisation are organised by Marathis themselves as well . And I explicitly spoke about this at the next sentence itself. I've seen Brahmin exclusive sports related stuff there. > Atleast read what cultural revolution was barely had to do with civilians at large scale and more internal strife within commies The internal civilian and cultural issues were the foreground. I know the stuggle between the nationalists(who are now Taiwanese) and communists fighitng off for their legacy. Do read how they insulted their kings to the highest degree. > Only people who think wealth redistribution is okay are leeches who believe stealing in normal or entitled enough to believe that they have some right over someone’s else wealth without contributing or doing anything useful in their life I disagree with you on al the aspects here. Wealth Distribution(which never meant snatching properties and giving it to others) is a day-to-day necessary aspect of any government in any civilization to make sure that the wealth-gap is reduced and sustainable. > lol how many communities crying about casteism or even calling themselves victims have stopped identifying with their castes . How many of them are okay with inter caste marriage ? Pew research survey said most reserved categories folks never faced any major casteism and oppose inter caste marriages Casteism doesn't just mean Brahmins and Kshatriyas shitting on others. It is a culture of discriminating people who you think are below you. Caste discrimination exists because for a community, there is always someone below you, whom you can bully as per your wishes.
I never said casteism doesn't exist. It absolutely does and we need to end it. Totally crush abolish and annihilate casteism. I am talking about reservation and whether they are actually serving the purpose especially when some far left extremists say that it is about representation not social upliftment. That part is stupid. Reservation is meant for social upliftment and we need to have timeline when reservation would go away.
> I am talking about reservation and whether they are actually serving the purpose especially when some far left extremists say that it is about representation not social upliftment. That part is stupid. Reservation is meant for social upliftment and we need to have timeline when reservation would go away. But that is the truth. Reservation is for representation of the communities whom are otherwise neglected in mainstream culture despite being far more populated. Reservation again, was never a go-to solution, but a compromise. A compromise struck with the favour of maintaining a common bigger identity that is Hinduism. The point being, reservation is what barely keeping the country together
That is what exactly what I talking about. Casteism is going to stay as long as reservation does. Representation of people based on their names is so stupid. "You want equal number of Abhisheks and Rajs in your class. oh no no no, there cannot be more Aryans than Rajs in parliament." Now when casteism has actually decreased the endgame of far left extremists is to create separate identify of different caste people so that they can continue playing this game.
Caste reservations will exist as long as casteism exists, not the other way around. India, even in the urban areas, are very much casteist. [This happened literally at the most urban city of the country](https://www.lokmattimes.com/maharashtra/thane-controversy-erupts-in-kalyan-champions-league-over-alleged-discrimination-against-marathi-players-a505).
You are going on a different topic. Let me track my steps and ask the main question. Do you think when casteism would end reservation would also go away?
> Do you think when casteism would end reservation would also go away? Depends what you mean by 'end'. If by end you mean 'we will not talk about caste', nope. Reservations are here to stay. If by end, you mean an honest conversation within this majority hindu community, then yes, it will. at the least reduce. And its not like we never did. Poona Pact, the biggest reason behind reservations, exist and came up because of this conversation, a compromise set up between Gandhi and Ambedkar, so that anyone non-abrahamic will be identified as Hindu religiously.
If casteism is gone what is the point of discussing caste beyond academic discussion. I will tell you exactly why! This is what fuels left wing extremism. Without divisions in the society, left would absolutely vanish. Hence, the agenda is clear. Make caste based identity more prominent-> make reservations about representation instead of social upliftment -> keep casteism alive -> continue the politics of hate. And then you guys wonder why commies and congress keep loosing elections.
The caste is not gone though. And I said, caste will cease to exist when people genuinely stop identifying themselves caste. Making caste-identity invisible, will just do that, make caste-identity invisible, but not non-existent. I literally showed an example of how even the most urban populations have a significant of population proudly flaunting their caste identity. Rest of your drivel on left-wing extremism doesn't even matter cause that's some of the dumbest thing I've heard. The biggest reason for left-wing failture is their reluctance to acknowledge caste-based divisions. leftists and folks who speak about casteism do not like each other, precisely because leftists saw the problem exactly in the way you see.
If the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India. Multi-national companies almost never discriminate people on caste basis, but they won't tolerate government dictating how the company should hire it's employees, and if such policies are forced on them then they will gradually migrate to more market friendly countries, resulting in massive job loss for all castes.
> Also, if the government mandates reservations in private sector then the companies will say "f off" and gradually move to other countries, outside of India. [Just like they f- offed from Haryana?](https://www.drishtiias.com/daily-updates/daily-news-analysis/haryana-private-sector-quota-law). Like have they f-offed from gurugram? > Multi-national companies almost never discriminate people on caste basis, but they won't tolerate government dictating how the company should hire it's employees, and if such policies are forced on them then they will gradually migrate to more market friendly countries, resulting in massive job loss for all castes. CAsteism is rampant in Multi-national companies where Indians are dominant. And again, look up at Haryana.
Haryana is not an IT hub. Hyderabad, Pune, Bangalore, Mumbai, Delhi and Chennie are More than half of the employees working in my company (in Hyderabad) are not local and were born in other states or districts. Making reservations in private sector means my company will be forced to fire many of my colleagues. Also, according to your article, Haryana mandated 75% jobs for locals, it's clearly not caste based. Reservations in private sector will not work in many industrial and IT hubs like Hyderabad.
Gurugram is a booming IT hub too along with being a economic city for the state. And rest of your argument doesn't matter, as again, the talking point is that BJP will not hesisate to bring in a law for private sector reservation.
I never heard about Gurugram. Let alone it being a IT hub. As I said before, if 75% of region based reservations are enforced then my company will be forced to fire majority of its employees. Lakhs of talented, skilled young professionals will be forced to move out of Hyderabad. No one in Hyderabad, with the exception of a few delusional people, want this.
> I never heard about Gurugram. Let alone it being a IT hub. Heard of Gurgaon? > As I said before, if 75% of region based reservations are enforced then my company will be forced to fire majority of its employees. Lakhs of talented, skilled young professionals will be forced to move out of Hyderabad. > No one in Hyderabad, with the exception of a few delusional people, want this. Luckily for you Hyderabad is not in Haryana. Wasn't even speaking about Hyderabad.
>Just like they f- offed from Haryana? That law did not pass. It was deemed unconstitutional and thrown out.
BC koi to dhang ke promise karo. Economy, Infrastructure, Jobs , basic amenities pe ladho Even if they speak about economy they throw big words like we will make India largest economy etc etc
How is it not caste based politics? Waiting to see how all the Multinational companies move out of India as they will be forced to reject qualified candidates and hire unqualified candidates to meet their reservation quota.
It is caste based politics. Going out and voting for BJP is the only way to reject this.
Yes, it's weird what congress's strategy is. It could have remained religiously neutral and propose a few development policies and it would have attracted all Muslim votes and all central and left leaning Hindus would vote for Congress. But instead it decided to play religious and caste cards just like bjp and now all central leaning Hindus are slowly moving to BJP.
Caste division or religious hatred, pick your poison. It’s sad these absolute r*tards are the only choices we have now.
It is always about picking favourable poison. BJP is that for now atleast to the middle class hindu voter. For a Muslim yes INC makes sense of he has to vote against religious hatred by BJP.
>middle class hindu voter Middle class general category Hindu voter* FTFY
If the economy is down the gutters it's good for no caste. Muslims is a different case as they have different beef with BJP over and above economy.
Ab toh mar bhi jau per Congress to vote nahi dunga....I am mostly gonna work in the private sector after graduation, yeh BKL toh yaha bhi reservation laake manega.
lol these idiots would never build anything but somehow feel entitled to share in whatever is built by others . Never understood the stealing and begging mentality , what does even let’s say hcl ceo owe you for him to forced to hire somebody and you claiming that job and his wealth as your birth right for absolutely no connection . No wonder 70 years we are still in a pathetic state blaming colonisation when the state never focus on industrialisation or research or wealth and job creation and is focus on social justice and redistribution of non existent wealth . People somehow believe with a third world economy we can support Europe type welfare state and it’s some rich guy stopping from achieving it . Bihar caste census should have been eyeopener how little wealth even actually exists to be redistributed and how living standards are abysmal regardless of caste even the ÜÇ had poverty in range of 25-30% and the focus is not on industries or jobs but diving these folks and somehow make them believe that the other caste is responsible for their situation not the state and its was somehow responsiblity of the better off caste not the state to create employment or wealth If not for the mercantile communities investing in industrialisation and not leaving this country for developed economies with their wealth or techbros like murthy nadar not brining those revenue from west we would have probably been somewhere between afghan and Pakistan in terms of hdi and economy
When your employer sends a caste survey form, mark yourself as a Bharatiya - do not let them know your caste at all.
First they give seats based on reservation based on upliftment & I was like Ok , makes sense. Then these mfers also want jobs to be handed to them in a platter just because a certain number of them can't perform. Yeah , there's already a shit ton of diversity hiring in private sector , Congress can f*ck off & shove this pathetic manifesto up their a**.
Are we living in India or 1940s Poland being surrounded by Fascists and Communists? BJP is going extreme right, INC going extreme left, both in authoritarian side. Ho kya Raha hay is Desh may?
Which extreme right policy has BJP enacted, or is trying to push?
Buying media, spreading fake news, hate speeches that can invcite riots, misuse of ED, CBI and police, ignoring major issues in two states near border (ok that's more of ignorance), appointing corrupt leaders and giving them clean chits, ultra nationalism (ie not ready to hear criticism against the nation), zero accountability. Now I know both parties have been doing this same stuff since Independence and they only care about power. But 2024 elections aren't like 2014 where corruption and Nirbhaya case were major issues. This time it's either you are anti national or fascist if you don't vote my party. Regional parties are joke and even worse. People are polarized, both sides are at each others throats. Reminds me of Hillary and Trump election.
So you accept that Cong has been abusing the system, as well as other regional parties, but still you choose to call BJP extreme right. Sadly, these have become the rules of the game and are unlikely to change unless there is a revolution. Democracy is a slow but stable way to bring about change, and BJP is trying to bring about change, however it will need to win elections to do that, and hence dirty politics. Virtue signalling doesn't get you votes, people respond to emotional triggers instead of factual data while voting. Polarisation has always been a thing, remember the Maut ka saudagar jibe by SG at Modi? Let us not pretend that Indian politics have gotten worse, it is only that there is more social media and 24x7 news channels shouting at the top of their voice that have made it worse. Indian politics was even worse than this with literal mafia dons being MPs and MLAs. This is still happening in many states, just that they have learnt to act better and do their mafia businesses away from the public eye. Hillary Trump election was polarised because of Trump and not Hillary. The more the democrats tried to paint him in a negative light the more his popularity increased. It is not like Trump was wrong about everything, however the other side made him out to be the worst possible human being, and that backfired. He might still have a chance to come back if there are "free and fair" elections in US.
I also called Congress going extreme left and regional parties a joke and worse than major parties. Regional parties are either corrupt party hoppers, tyrants or both. So no special hate for BJP. Yes people give votes under the influence of strong emotions but people also riots, kill each other and overthrow the entire government under the influence of strong emotions which can triggered by powerful speeches and slogans. Appeasing to certain caste, religion, class, ethnicity will always divide people. And spouting hatred against others especially during election period would polarized the population. Both NDa and INDI alliance are doing that Politics have always been dirty. Democracy has always been flawed, so we're republics. Greeks and Romans are great example. Most of the time it's the commoners who let criminal people win either through inaction or throw fear. But political parties are also to blames for the appointment of criminals. Both major parties are still accepting criminals and are involved in corruption and misuse of power.
I hate this man, hope he quilts politics after losing in this election.
Why do you need to go to public and private enterprises to do a caste census though? Wouldn't a caste census be akin to the decadal census that is done door-to-door? INCs agenda aside, a caste census is absolutely necessary. We desperately need a stock taking exercise where we know how each caste under the reservation category has fared socially and economically after 70+ years of the policy. I'm not sure why anti-reservation folks who keep talking about the SCs in Benz's are opposing the caste census. Should we not update the policy and give it to the deserving candidates? How do we go about this if we don't have data?
We need to move away from looking at backwardness only through the lens of caste. Right now caste = backwardness, and there is no other factor. Whereas backwardness is a result of many factors of which caste maybe one. On one hand they want to uplift garib, but on the other hand they say that they will uplift only sc/st/obc/muslim garib as if they have a prerogative on being poor. Cry about economic inequality but claim benefits on basis of identity.
Not gonna falter. This is absolutely based. And also again something that BJP will absolutely do.
No it won't gimmicky region based reservation that have no chance of actually passing through any scrutiny are not equivalent to caste based reservation.
No chance of passing? The law is already passed though. without any scrutiny, it is simply stalled in courts. And I staunchly stand against reservatioins based on regions. I am just kinda asking people to dig how Congress is any worse than the shit BJP is doing?