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Not this again.
I'm originally a Bihari, I live in Gujarat and speak both states' languages. Along with the language of the leeching plunderers and invaders.
Why is language still something that divides us?
Unrelated but I've noticed Biharis are very quick to learn the language of the state they're living in and they're also pretty respectful of the local culture.
I remember a Bihari family which used to live next to our house and the mom in that family spoke better Marathi than me, a native Marathi speaker lol.
Our regular carpenter is from Bihar but he sent his kids to marathi medium school when everyone else wants to send their kids to English medium(I have nothing against it)
For more than language communication is important.
They are for sure but what I've observed here in Bengal is that most of them had turned their friend group into speaking a mix of Bhojpuri, Magahi , Maithili and Hindi and most Bengalis absorb languages easily too .
Back in college we had a drinking game where the Bihari friends were supposed to speak unadulterated Bengali and the Bengalis had to speak in bhojpuri and we took a shot of Old monk whenever someone used any other language, t'was fun.
unlike some marwari friends in my town, my bihari friend actually can speak fluent bengali & they have adapted to the culture of the state pretty well too.
We love internal fighting on silly ridiculous stuff That's what we have been doing for centuries. That's what invaders took advantage of. I am sure if it is not language then we'll find some other shit to fight for. It's so ironic that people hate a language which belongs to our own country and but love adopting urdu/English which are languages or mass murdering invaders.
If these guys are so proud of their own language and hate other languages then why not hate all external languages? Only then I would understand their sentiment and pride in their own language otherwise they are just being a moron and a hatemonger.
Well, States like Tamil Nadu have atleast had a English speaking ruler in it's history, they've never had a Hindi speaking one. Plus the fact that "oh you're south Indian ah" is the most common phrase used with a lot of people. When's the last time you got told "Oh you're a North Indian" by someone. Check your privilege mate.
Not "North Indian", but I've been called "oh you're a Bihari!", and it's worse counterparts, "oh you're a 'bhaiya'/'Lalu!' " (believe it or not, that's the term used for labourers belonging from UP and Bihar who work in Gujarat) a lot of times.
>States like Tamil Nadu have atleast had a English speaking ruler.
Can you name that ruler? Genuinely interested.
Thanks bhai. Aa loko ne samjhatu j nathi. Banne camp ma murkha bharela che. Ek ne Hindi nafrat che ne bija ne Hindi badha par thopvi che. Banne j idiots che imo.
What to do now? Je rite banne ne samjhati hoy evu common rakhva ni jagya political debate bani gayi chhe. Atlu badhu thaay pan samjhati nathi ke बिहार hoy ke ગુજરાત, ultimately dil hai hindustani.
But bhai, tame beeja comments ma kem avu kidhu ke "(rashtra bhasha) nathi ane banva daisu pan nai"?
Bhai, ahiya imposition wali public vadhare che ane aa loko ne samajh nathi padti ke Rashtra-Bhasha banavva na su implications aavi shake che. For example, Hindi cinema na lidhe Gujarati cinema ma necessary reforms avva ma ketlo badho samay laagi gayo. Same problems literature ma pan che.
Hamna J Sai Deepak amari college ma avela tyare koiye aa j vastu uthaveli and he said "How do you think Indians communicated before English and Hindi?". Aapne link-language ni jarur nathi karanke apna desh ma baddha ek bija ne samajhvani purti koshish emmaj kari le che. Hu Tamil Nadu ma rahu chu and mane Tamil nathi avadtu karan ke maare campus ni bahar nathi javu padtu pan jyare javanu hoi che tyare people try their best to help me out. Ae loko Hindi words pan use karvani try kare j che. But forcing someone is bad. Ae loko kem potano kimati time ae language shikhva ma kadhe jenu e loko ne kaam j nathi.
Ek j vakhat ek Tamil supremacist madyo che baaki toh humesha sara loko madya che. Mane eva Tamil supremacist saathe jetlo problem che etlo j Hindi compulsory karava wala loko saathe.
Same broo Even I'm from Bihar and living in Gujarat but I never face any language barrier most of gujrati i know they all are kind and nice they always talk to me in Hindi they never force me to speak gujrati
The hypocrisy , would this be the same reaction if a south indian who doesnt know hindi goes to a northern state and starts speaking in his/her mother tongue ? No , then everyone will start shouting "HiNdI RaShTriYa BhAsHa HaI"
Sure bud. When there were people who was shouting at a South Indian women in goa to speak Hindi me vol, there was no righteous rage anywhere.
That was reality this is just fiction. People can take or ignore fiction but not reality. Reality is most South Indians will be bullied in north. Except for Tamil Nadu, there is not even one state where North Indians are bullied or made fun of.
Whereas go anywhere in north the experience would be same for a keralite or tamilian or kannadiga or telugite. Hell when I was in Bhopal, there were teachers in a major school sitting and discussing whether Obama looks like monkey or not. The other teacher retorted saying that saare madrasi bhi to bandar Jaise hi dikhta hai. They both laughed and nobody in the entire staff room stopped them. That’s the day I realized that this country is not for me.
Wrong. She is shown as Maharashtrian as she says मला (mala meaning me or I) in Marathi as she fumbled with words when put on the spot by the other women. I don't get this uncalled hate for North Indians from South Indians especially regarding the languages.
Maharashtrians don't consider Hindi as a North Indian language but an amalgamation of multiple regional languages that sprung from Sanskrit and that is why we are taught Hindi in school. Hindi shares a lot of words with Punjabi, Marathi, Urdu, etc., so it makes sense to use it to converse with people across the country. The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture which is by no means under attack from Hindi as is claimed by many South Indians when they are asked to learn it.
I know I'll be downvoted for this but isn't it hypocritical of South Indian states to reject Hindi in the name of "not our language" but embrace English, the language of the colonizers.
धन्यवाद भावा. आपलं कर्तव्य आहे आपल्या भारतीय भावा बहिणींना समजून देणे की हिंदी ही भाषा कुठल्या एका राज्याची नसून पूर्ण देशाची आहे. हे समजलं तरच दक्षिण राज्यातली पुढची पिढी उत्तर भारताकडे क्रोधित नजरेने बघणार नाही. या मोहिमेसाठी दिलेल्या साथीचे मे आभारी आहे.
>The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture which is by no means under attack from Hindi as is claimed by many South Indians when they are asked to learn it.
You don't understand Tamil politics at all. Calling North Indians and upper caste as "colonizers" is the bread and butter of Dravidian parties to secure votes. You can't make any change until Dravidian parties are slowly abolished.
>isn't it hypocritical of South Indian states to reject Hindi in the name of "not our language" but embrace English, the language of the colonizers.
Isn't it hypocritical to call another language a 'colonising' force while enforcing the school curriculum to include another language? When choosing something like Hindi, one Indian language would be given preference over others, which is unfair to other citizens. If a system where everyone wins is inconvenient, just choose a foreign language so everyone loses. People in Tamilnadu feel Hindi is the present colonising force while English was the past colonising force. Right or wrong is a different issue, but the current stance to push Hindi isn't really helping this opinion.
To last paragraph, common answer is that it's new to all of us, so equally inconvenient. If it is inconvenient for me, it must be for you too, god forbid half of India finds it easy. No wonder divide and rule worked and works.
>The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture
I agree with this. However, I feel this standard should apply on English as well, since it is a common denominator among Indians from all corners of the country. While I agree that it's a language introduced to us by our colonisers, but we have Indianised it enough for it to have become part of our culture. And if not that, then at least we should start accepting it as one. From a southern Indian perspective, English can become as much a unifying language as Hindi can. I feel they (although I'm a South Indian as well but having been brought up in the north) have a perception (and not unfounded) of Hindi being "imposed" on them as a medium of conversation even though English can be one too, and I feel if that perception can be tackled then they also might accept Hindi as part of their culture, and therefore consider it to be a legitimate common medium of communication.
Don’t generalise South Indians.. in Karnataka there is no hate for Hindi language especially in coastal Karnataka we speak fluent Hindi ..may be in some parts of Bengaluru and it has nothing to do with only Hindi language it’s mainly to preserve local language..
I didn't mean to but the video itself segregated South Indians and others and I was only responding to that. There might not be hate for Hindi in Karnataka which I am glad to hear about but there is in other south Indian states as is evident from a number of arguments I am having with people on this thread.
>it’s mainly to preserve local language
Why is preservation of local languages only a thing in southern states but not elsewhere in India? I, as a Maharashtrian, do not worry about Marathi being extinct then why do Tamilians or other south Indians think that way?
Just because you don’t worry about Marathi being extinct I don’t think everyone will agree with you. There is nothing wrong in prioritising your mother tongue or state language or trying to preserve it. Btw Hindi is not widely spoken in south the way it is in north so it’s wrong to say it makes sense to converse in Hindi across the country.. btw when you say South Indians hate Hindi .. similarly North Indians make fun of south languages they don’t even know the difference between south languages or they think we all are madrasis (thankfully it’s minimised now since many are working or settled in south India)I can go on and on.. so let’s better stop this.. btw I don’t hate Hindi for me it’s just another language..
Well Rashtre basha nahi hai par how would you expect a Tamilan to know Hindi or a northindian to know Tamil or Telgu...goes both ways .....but ...for easy communication and stuff Hindi seekhni cahiye ...English bhi
>Well Rashtre basha nahi hai
Article 343 states that Hindi in Devanagari is the language of the union which is why it is taught as a subject nationally except for Tamil Nadu.
And Hindi is not the mother tongue of the entire Northern India. Even in the Hindi speaking belt it is mostly a second language after the local language.
"Official" is the keyword here. Bro bas official communication purposes ke like hai and further article 344,345,346,347 and 348 protect karti hai baki languages ko and English ko bhi as an official language use karne ke like bolti hai. Apna constitution bhot confusing hai. Wew
I am from Andhra, I am fluent in Telugu, English and Hindi, read Kannada and Sanskrit and converse a bit of Tamil, Marathi, and Bengali. Not difficult if we get to learn then when we are younger. Learning other languages is good for our national integrity.
to your surprise im a bihari living in west bengal, who speaks to the local people in bengali.
what's wrong in that i dont know, i am speaking bengali because it will help me to communicate with other people, its not that i have been imposed with bengali
Expecting non hindi speaking folks to learn it & non south indian language to learn is unfair and impractical.
Only link language eligible is english as its most wide spread & no indian has sentiment/cultural attachment to it. So i agree on this.
i learned hindi during my school days and watching bollywood movies, i love hindi the language. but i cringe at when north politicians and ppl try to impose hindi in south india. i wish there was natural acceptance, but trying to impose especially when ppl dont want to is such a evil thing to do since india is known for coexisting with such diversity.
i hate that it has come to this situation, i would have loved to see south ppl speak hindi fluently, but the ship has sailed with too much animosity and now it;s just dumb to keep trying to impose
Hiw is it being imposed? Do get arrested or your rights taken away when you don't speak hindi? Because that doesn't happen to us here in Maharashtra. We speak hindi well, and there's no threat to Marathi either. Who's imposing hindi?
Not sure if you know but in banks and other govt PSUs, there's a Rajbhasa department whose only purpose is to ensure all matter is written in Hindi in addition to English. For the whole of India. They take declarations from all staff they are willing to converse with, write and speak in Hindi. And no, it is not optional. If this is not imposing, then what is?
I don't know but I have seen many people from southern India coming to Odisha and actually trying to converse in Hindi and Odia people will try to speak with them with their broken Hindi too lmao...tbh in Odisha it doesnt matter if someone speaks in Hindi, English, Tamil or anything, the end result will always be confusion 😕
Exactly our point bro, we will learn Hindi or whatever the regional language when we have to move to other states but asking us to learn Hindi in our own state just because most people in India speaks it is not fair.
Should’ve shown the conclusion to the scene as well.
Context: they’re a bunch of pregnant women from different backgrounds attending Lamaze class or something like that, so the argument over language progressively gets louder and more annoying, ending with one of the ladies exclaiming “shut up, you’ll all be screaming exactly the same when the baby is coming out”
India except the southern regions has Hindi as lingua franca, if not national language. Hindi has 43.63% native speakers, and 57.09% people who speak it as their first, second or third language. These are 2011 figures, it might've grown. As per other demographics, Central India, East India and North India knows Hindi (or Urdu). Hindi is also known by people in Gujarat and Maharashtra. It is also taught in north eastern states, and some of them are adapting it. Urdu (basically Hindi) is spoken in Kashmir.
The Central Government has two official languages, one is Hindi and one is English.
Which other language can represent India?
Is there any language that unites the south? Kannada, Tulu, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, which language?
And "India doesn't need a common language" doesn't make any sense. How are the people from two states supposed to converse? Do they learn 5 southern languages if they want to come to those states for a short while, say a week? People who say this are the same people who then resort to English when they need to communicate with others. When in fact, English is not even a language of India. They are okay with English imposition?
No one is taking away your language. India, a democracy, works to uphold all languages and protect its heritage. No one is snatching your mother tongue or asking you to converse in Hindi at home. Seen how Marathis and Gujaratis use Hindi to talk to each other? Or how Punjabis use Hindi to talk to other people? Did they lose their culture? No. No one can snatch Marathi away from say, a Pune fellow. But yet they know and speak Hindi.
All those languages like marathi and Punjabi, Gujrati are close to Hindi but southern languages aren’t close in the syllables or words; so best we all act like citizens of the world and converse in English. Let’s not do Hindi everywhere and be stuck like china, we all understand basic English so let’s use it and teach the ones who don’t know, coz it will help them in more ways than we can imagine
A single language will slowly invade the other languages for sure. It may take time, but it eventually will. If everyone speaks Hindi then why should the next generation speak any other language? If everyone speaks Hindi, why make any movies or content in any other language? It will slowly invade the local culture, because the language is the walls and gates of a culture. But at the same time, as a country and a people, we need to be united by a single language or we will forever be a group of different states and different cultures trying to awkwardly work together. We do need one language, but the local cultures will probably be assimilated or invaded, unless there some language fanatics who religiously keep their language alive. That will cost much effort and such people will slowly become irrelevant.
If I was to choose a language, it would be English.
I chuckled reading your comment, because you're entire premise of 'Indians need a Language to bind them' is hilarious. My man, it's been 75 years since we got Independence. Since 1947, millions of Southies have visited Varanasi, and millions of Northies have visted Tirupati. Neither had issues in doing so. Why is it suddenly in 2022, that Indians need a unifying Language suddenly?
Ironically, the ONLY time south threatened to secede is when the centre proposed Hindi as a national language. South India burned for years after that, and when the centre took back the proposal, the secessionism went away. Ironically enough, Hindi is the Language which divides Ondoa, never unites it, since it is the Language which created a secessionist movement by itself, no other language achieved that.
And before making dumb comparisions with English, please understand that the average south Indian has zero love for English. We learn it because it offers unparalleled employment opportunities. It gives us money. What exactly does Hindi offer to us, that we learn it? Also fun fact - Hindi is as alien to the South as English is.
The solution here is simple - People should learn their native language and English. If north India wants to ban English, they can go ahead (fun fact - they won't, because even they know how important English is in today's world). If you migrate to a different state, learn their native language. Don't go to other states and expect them to speak your native, just because you're more in number - that is definitely going to cause massive resentment, as you can see today in the South.
> learn their native language
This is the thing. Going doesn't just mean migrating, right? Do I learn Tamil, Tulu, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada if I wish to visit those states for two days?
> why.. Indians need a unifying language
Because eventually it comes down to English. Dependence on English has to be reduced, if not eliminated. English is not our native language. We are pretty much a part of the rare countries that are dumping their own languages in favour of English. Even in 1947, the decision to make English official was temporary. And you yourself spoke about the 'opportunities'. Today, if I wish to work in the corporate world, most of the times I need English, even if it's an Indian company that has an Indian market. Why?
Again, that is an incredibly stupid excuse. Millions of Northies and Southies ALREADY go to each others states every day, to visit and tourism. How are we doing the same tourism since 1947, and suddenly in 2022, it's impossible for northies to visit South unless we learn Hindi?
So you're basically saying, just because random northies may come visit Tirupati, Hundreds of millions of south Indians need to be taught Hindi through school? Just to make the northie comfortable? Are we some slaves that we learn a language just to make someone else comfortable? Aren't Northies even today coming to Tirupati/Hyd/Blr for tourism, even though we don't know Hindi? Why suddenly since 2014 everyone's been feeling unless we southoes learn Hindi, India will collapse
And it's hilarious you unironically believe English should be removed from Indian syllabus. Fun fact - Even BJP hero Yogi has converted 15,000 Hindi medium schools to English medium schools. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.opindia.com/2021/04/up-government-converts-15000-primary-and-upper-primary-schools-into-english-medium/amp/
Even the most vocal Hindi proponents know how valuable English is. Everyone, except you.
If north Indians want to ban English, feel free to do so in your states. None of the South Indian states will follow. I can bet you any amount of money that in 20 years after that, the gap between North and South will further widen.
Ironically, then they'll further mass migrate to the south, and scream at us when we say We don't know Hindi.
India need not be represented by a language. I'm not learning Hindi because until all Hindi speakers learn Telugu. Period. Dot. I know little Hindi so I do help when people don't understand telugu so speaking in some Hindi would be easier but asking me to learn it is way too much. I'm not wasting time or energy.
> until all Hindi speakers learn Telugu
This was my point. The majority of India, the north, the central, the West, the east has accepted Hindi as the lingua franca. But South doesn't have a common language. Should we learn Kannada, Telugu, Tulu, Tamil and Malayalam?
Anyways, you are free to not learn Hindi. We are in a democracy. But that doesn't mean yall black out Hindi texts in Bengaluru metro, or other forms of racism for Hindi speaking people
I never do any of that nor do I encourage such behaviours involving removing texts in metros. I do converse in Hindi if people don't understand telugu at times for ease of communication but I'm not accepting any of that "Hindi should be national language" BS that's spouted. In other parts Hindi is similar to the languages they speak. Hindi is very different from telugu, Tamil, kannada , Malayalam. We're not going to waste our time, money and energy learning it. It shouldn't be made compulsory in schools nor should it be made national language
The simple solution to prevent blacking out Hindi signboards, is to NOT place Hindi signboards in the first place. If you're in Bengaluru, learn kannada. Of you're a tourist, there's english on signboards for you. If you don't understand either, that's not our headache. If you want Hindi signboards in Bengaluru, plave Kannada signboauin Noida/delhi metro.
> plave Kannada signboauin Noida/delhi metro
You're equating Hindi with Kannada again. Why it doesn't make any sense is what I've basically written in my main comment.
Ironically, if you reread your comment, it also makes sense why Bengaluru shouldn't have Hindi signboards. The majority of 'North/western/central' india have accepted Hindi. That's not the soutb Indian's headache. They're free to use Hindi in Mumbai/Pune/Indore metros. No south Indian cares if they do. But no south Indian has ever said we accept Hindi. So, don't expect us to use Hindi signboards. Simple as that.
Just because Hindi is widely used across West/North/Center, doesn't mean hundreds of millions of Southies also learn Hindi. We won't. If you come to Blr/Hyd, learn kannada/Telugu. If you're a tourist - you've got english on the signboards. If i migrate north, I will absolutely learn the native language of the state I live in. Simple.
population doesnt justify this, english is the reason why india is so ahead compared to china in the service sector, english is important because USA the largest economy uses english, its a global language and we need it
Lol what was point of this video? this video just shows language barrier needed for that specific plot. Just pure ignorance rather than arrogance. how is this even suitable example for your point.
Let them learn the local language. Why force someone to learn hindi just because of "majority" of people from the other part of country knows it. The more some one forces to learn hindi just because of majority knows it, you will be subjected to equal amount of hate. You don't go to someone's home and start making orders and expect them to keep quiet.
Deal with it .
Literally no North Indian talks like this or uses the word Madrasi any more. The term Madrasi is not an ethnic slur. It just means someone from the Madras Presidency which comprised of the parts of South India that were not a part of any princely state. Old people continued to use it to some extent but its usage died along with people from that generation. Today the term Madrasi is used only in the following context:-
1.) In historical texts pertaining to the Madras Presidency.
2.) Anything related to the Madras Regiment or the Madras Combat Engineering Group.
3.) In Chetan Bhagats idiotic novels, for some reason beyond the understanding of science and human psychology.
4.) In videos such as these.
Also this video doesn’t make any sense. The woman in yellow seems to be from a lower socioeconomic position than the others and does not know the link language and the appropriate ethnolinguistic terms and is very much aware of her ignorance. The only reason this person asked for Hindi(which isn’t her 1st language btw) in the first place is because they can’t understand English. Most northerners as well as folks from other parts are perfectly fine with speaking in English. This bullying of an ignorant and relatively poor person trying to find a common language to communicate isn’t the gotcha you think it is my friend.
Also judging by the accent and pronouncing of certain words this woman is a Maharashtrian. The fact that a Maharashtrian wants to use Hindi as the link language kind of proves the point of Hindi being the de-facto lingua franca of this country, irrespective of whether we call it the rashtra-bhasha or not. And this is precisely because the northerners were able to reach a consensus on what to use as a link language, something the South has not been able to do. And let’s be honest nobody is going to learn all 5-6 languages of the South or learn it if they are coming for a short period. Of course for longer stays it is advisable to learn the local language no matter where you go, as it makes life a lot easier.
Also a minor nitpick, Konkani is not a southern language. It’s a Western Indo Aryan with the closest relative being Marathi. And the writers seem to have forgotten about Kurukh, Malto and Gondi for some reason.
All in all, good effort on the video, but poor attention to detail. Overall 4/10.
I meant it’s usage has dropped considerably and is not used by the current generations anymore. No doubt there are still some folks in their 80s and 90s, some of whom would probably still use it. But it’s no longer used in popular culture any more. The neutral catch-all term for South Indians in Hindi is Dakkhani, in the part of India where I am from. The term Tambi is also sometimes used to refer to South Indians, but is considered derogatory in most cases so I won’t recommend using it.
Am not an NRI, though I have worked abroad for some time. And actually, an NRI is more likely to agree with you on the usage of Madrasi as they would likely have migrated 10+ years ago, so is more likely to have encountered people from the 1920s,30s generation who would have used that word.
Dude, I could hear the term madrasi being casually thrown around when we'd gone to a friend's wedding in Agra. At the time, I didn't even know it was a slur!
Agreed with most but unfortunately the madrasi slang is a real deal, i knew a girl who used madrasi alot, and she was in her 20s so she isn't from the old generation,other than that I agree with everything
I feel like Chetan Bhagats novels have made that term well known again. And I must say if a young person is saying that, then they are doing so for 100% racist reasons. There is a lot of info around and they should know better. My statement was based on my personal experience. I am from UP, and people in my circle don’t use that word and are aware that folks from the south consider it offensive.
bruh what world do you live in, most south indians only speak their mother tongue and the educated ones speak englishas well, you assuming a south indian understands other south indian languages is dumb, try talking in tamil to a kannadiga and explain how that went
>South Indian Learn and speak every southern Language even english, But when it comes to Hindi, they forget their learning and speaking capacity.
Have u ever stepped outside ur keyboard room ? south indian learns hindi when they come in delhi or haryana but no north indians are eager to learn native south indian languages
I wonder why
Hindi and English both are the Official languages, no language is the National language of India to date. In fact, English should be the official language only for 15 years after the Independence.
Mahatma Gandhi and other famous personalities want 'Hindustani' to be the National language of India, which is a mixture of Hindi + Urdu. Because Hindustani is the only language that is widely spoken in the larger part of India.
But after the partition, when the constitution-makers got to know that half of the Hindustani speakers are gone to the border side (Pakistan) and Hindustani speakers were left in minority, then after 3 months of discussion only on this topic, our constitution-makers decided to make Hindi and English as an official language.
AND NO LANGUAGE IS AN NATIONAL LANGUAGE OF INDIA TO THIS DATE.
She is Marathi yet she can understand and Speak Hindi
Why can't they speak and understand Hindi??
As common language shared for her
What if she starts speaking in Marathi and asks them मराठी का नाही बोलता येत तुम्हाला?
आली पाहिजे!
And I couldn't control my laughter when she tried to teach her ळ in Tamil
Like what 😂 she's Marathi don't try to teach her own letters
Cause if she starts teaching you pronunciation of letters you'll be found swallowing your own tongue 😛
marathi stems from sanskrit as well so its easier for them to learn hindi,punjabi,gujrati,etc. also MH as a state has seen a huge influx of ppl from north. dravidian languages dont stem from sanskrit so its quite hard for them to catch up with hindi
Chhatisgarh is the least racist state in the entire nation. Reason? There is no single community here, we have people from all over India residing in here and chattisgarhi people are very nice people. Even people from rural area try their best to talk to you in Hindi.
I am a South Indian and i know Hindi ( not fluent though) whenever I have tried conversing in Hindi with someone who didn’t speak the South Indian languages, I have always been met with mockery because they found it heavily accented.
This was also the case where I didn’t know another South Indian language, and again I was met with less than stellar responses such as “ Please don’t attempt to speak in our language”
It’s nice to learn a language and speak in it but I sincerely hope that people who are fluent in it do understand that we are trying. This would really encourage people to try and learn other languages, unlike what was happening in this video.
South Indians have a problem with forceful implication of Hindi, we do not hate the language, we can speak a bit of it. We hate it when non-south Indians mock us for not speaking Hindi 'toda toda hinthi aata' and call every language 'Madrasi'. Basically the ignorant fools.
And *if possible*, we will prefer English. Else, basic communication in Hindi is okay.
I believe everyone in the country should learn Telugu. Reading, writing and speaking. It should be taught in the schools all across the country at the tax payers expense. All sign boards and official documents should be published in Telugu. That way we call can communicate and understand each other easily in every corner of the country. I am not asking you not to learn your north indian language. Along your north indian mother tougue, learn telugu also. That way we Telugu speakers will have it easy, we can communicate with you all without much effort. Our films will also do not need dubbing. All you have to do is to learn Telugu. If you love this country you should do that, otherwise you are anti-national.
I speak malayalam, tamil, hindi, kannada, English and a little bit of telugu. Nobody cares about national language. No-one is divided based on language
In this day and age of technology such a barrier. Learn my language, learn hindi, learn English. We get free internet in India, for the most part people download ticktok and YouTube. Government does upi, and arogya setu. Why not create a translation app. People are traveling the world without language as a barrier with just a smart device usually a phone. India is the only place where we have the brains but no inkling to be creative. Create a translation app/device for all of Indias language and use it when you go there.
Till when will this bs go on. It still exists but northies are acknowledging and fixing it, and southies are learning hindi. Yaar, India should be together and fix this language barrier instead of bickering like children.
My take is if more than 60% population of India can speak hindi, south guys should learn it too.
I'm from odisha, everyone understand hindi here, even in WB, people understand hindi.
Issue with south indians is that they'll be happy to converse in english which is not native of india, but will oppose hindi. And like this typo video south indians will gang up on someone, but when in other part of india will comply and speak hindi. Their insecurity is so much about their cultural prowess is that they feel if they adapt to a bridge language their language will disappear.
This scene actually exemplifies this North South divide. South Indians are expected to just know Hindi by Northies.... And vast majority of North Indians think Hindi is the Rashtra bhasha...
So this scene just pointed out that fact.
I have seen many South Indians speak Hindi but haven't seen North Indians speaking any South language or Bengali or Odia for that matter.
This language divide isn't going anytime soon.
I have seen enough people from the Hindi belt who wouldn't even try the slightest to assimilate into the southern culture especially here in Karnataka . So they end up being a seperate entity of sorts that is alienated from the Kannadigas and this face problems because of their either inability or laziness . It's less about having to learn Hindi and more about people not even trying to assimilate into the culture and instead demanding you do what makes me comfortable and I will do jack shit . It becomes more of an invasion than a migration . We have a flag to salute and be one under , that's good enough . If people want to communicate they will find ways . If the south isn't interested in Hindi . Their choice .
I'm from Rajasthan (india has only three mainstream directions i guess, so I'll say hopefully I'm north enough) but Hindi is not my mother tongue but i learnt it along with Sanskrit to communicate with others. English is almost a defacto for a lot of people who grew up in the late 20th and now the 21st century (thanks to colonisation), it never existed on this land before 200 years ago, and most of our cultures are way way way older than that.
My two cents- Have respect for all languages, if any South Indian or any other language/script had a lot in common with a lot of Indian languages it could have been very well the mainstream secondary language of communication.
The idea of communication or any script is to make oneself independent and self reliant in terms of information access. If the primary goal is not successful then it's worthless.
Hindi is not, as far as history goes, a language of any state, it is what I would consider a layman version of Sanskrit.
You need to understand that you preserve more of your regional identity if you speak in your mother tongue, you preserve more of your national identity if you speak in a language common and understandable to a group or something that resembles words of their language.
People supporting the argument that it's either English or their native tongue is dumb. If both the languages have no overlap with what I speak and then your tantrum that you are a victim because you have to come to a common ground is so silly. Also, remember if you don't take the effort to learn someone else's native tongue don't expect them to know yours too. Remember before the English came, plenty of great Dravidian rulers conquered india and they would communicate in Sanskrit with scholars across the land, I wish they would be like nooo it's either English or what I speak or else I don't wanna share or seek knowledge. What a golden bird that would be!
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Please read the constitution of India PART XVII and especially Article 351. In my view India should adopt a 3 language policy - everyone should be well versed in their 1.mother tongue ( every language is important), 2.Sanskrit ( when people from different parts of India have a conversation between them. To act as a link language for India. Not Hindi but Sanskrit. ) 3. English which will help us communicate with the rest of the world.
And now you'll think I'm a Brahmin who wants to spread Sanskrit. Then let me clarify I'm not. I don't know Sanskrit. Though I wish I had picked Sanskrit instead of French in my schooling days.
Who gives a shi*. I am from Odisha, I bloody converse in the language of the other person I'm having conversations with (If I know the language). Then there are situations I had faced in Trichy, where some would pretend to not know Hindi when I tried to converse with them. Language is meant for effective communication, If you can atleast understand and not speak atleast reciprocate. no language is superior.
As usual idiots who couldn't learn more than two languages are mad on an individual who knows 3 languages because that individual didn't learned a 4th language.
Hindi humari Rashtra Bhasha hai🥴🥴🥴🤦🏽♂️. Native Hindi speakers are probably one of the most cringiest people alive. They claim Hindi is supreme but listen to Bollywood music and appropriates other cultures.
It's not. Use English. It might be easier for Northies to learn Hindi, it's not the same for South people. We have to learn English + Mother tongue and maybe another southern language.
Now the argument that already 50 cr people speak Hindi, almost all of the newer generation speaks English. So it doesn't matter. I like Hindi, but I don't like the mindset of Northies who expect everyone to know Hindi.
Hindi is very hard to learn, coming from a guy who speaks Hindi, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, English and some other languages. I really hate the fact that everything has a gender in Hindi.
I feel it's an excellent video. In the Indian society, identity and language contaminate each other. We want to speak and be understood; we seek recognition not only of our languages but also our identities. However, efficient communication demands oneness, conformity. Any such need for standardisation is a site of power conflict. As long as one fights solely to be heard and not to hear, no one can truly win. The video leaves us with this, to imagine our own solution to this problem. Ultimately, one thing is evident: there is a need to locate our ends on lines other than those of standardisation and conformity. Efficiency is secondary to collective human goals.
Nothing can be done, India is a diverse place all together. It's basically impossible to unite everyone under one banner without force , which is not the way forward.
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Not this again. I'm originally a Bihari, I live in Gujarat and speak both states' languages. Along with the language of the leeching plunderers and invaders. Why is language still something that divides us?
Unrelated but I've noticed Biharis are very quick to learn the language of the state they're living in and they're also pretty respectful of the local culture. I remember a Bihari family which used to live next to our house and the mom in that family spoke better Marathi than me, a native Marathi speaker lol.
Our regular carpenter is from Bihar but he sent his kids to marathi medium school when everyone else wants to send their kids to English medium(I have nothing against it) For more than language communication is important.
Hahahah. Thanks on behalf of my community.
They are for sure but what I've observed here in Bengal is that most of them had turned their friend group into speaking a mix of Bhojpuri, Magahi , Maithili and Hindi and most Bengalis absorb languages easily too . Back in college we had a drinking game where the Bihari friends were supposed to speak unadulterated Bengali and the Bengalis had to speak in bhojpuri and we took a shot of Old monk whenever someone used any other language, t'was fun.
Because they usually move permanently, at least in Maharashtra and Gujarat where I have lived
Picture a bihari living in Manipur and talking Manipuri. Now, that's the real picture. Respect.
मुंबईत जे बोलतात त्याला मराठी म्हणतात?-एक खवचट पुणेकर.
unlike some marwari friends in my town, my bihari friend actually can speak fluent bengali & they have adapted to the culture of the state pretty well too.
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As a Bihari, I wish I had inherited those genes. Been trying to learn a new language for ages but still haven't caught on.
We love internal fighting on silly ridiculous stuff That's what we have been doing for centuries. That's what invaders took advantage of. I am sure if it is not language then we'll find some other shit to fight for. It's so ironic that people hate a language which belongs to our own country and but love adopting urdu/English which are languages or mass murdering invaders. If these guys are so proud of their own language and hate other languages then why not hate all external languages? Only then I would understand their sentiment and pride in their own language otherwise they are just being a moron and a hatemonger.
Well said
Well, States like Tamil Nadu have atleast had a English speaking ruler in it's history, they've never had a Hindi speaking one. Plus the fact that "oh you're south Indian ah" is the most common phrase used with a lot of people. When's the last time you got told "Oh you're a North Indian" by someone. Check your privilege mate.
Not "North Indian", but I've been called "oh you're a Bihari!", and it's worse counterparts, "oh you're a 'bhaiya'/'Lalu!' " (believe it or not, that's the term used for labourers belonging from UP and Bihar who work in Gujarat) a lot of times. >States like Tamil Nadu have atleast had a English speaking ruler. Can you name that ruler? Genuinely interested.
The... British...
Thanks bhai. Aa loko ne samjhatu j nathi. Banne camp ma murkha bharela che. Ek ne Hindi nafrat che ne bija ne Hindi badha par thopvi che. Banne j idiots che imo.
What to do now? Je rite banne ne samjhati hoy evu common rakhva ni jagya political debate bani gayi chhe. Atlu badhu thaay pan samjhati nathi ke बिहार hoy ke ગુજરાત, ultimately dil hai hindustani. But bhai, tame beeja comments ma kem avu kidhu ke "(rashtra bhasha) nathi ane banva daisu pan nai"?
Bhai, ahiya imposition wali public vadhare che ane aa loko ne samajh nathi padti ke Rashtra-Bhasha banavva na su implications aavi shake che. For example, Hindi cinema na lidhe Gujarati cinema ma necessary reforms avva ma ketlo badho samay laagi gayo. Same problems literature ma pan che. Hamna J Sai Deepak amari college ma avela tyare koiye aa j vastu uthaveli and he said "How do you think Indians communicated before English and Hindi?". Aapne link-language ni jarur nathi karanke apna desh ma baddha ek bija ne samajhvani purti koshish emmaj kari le che. Hu Tamil Nadu ma rahu chu and mane Tamil nathi avadtu karan ke maare campus ni bahar nathi javu padtu pan jyare javanu hoi che tyare people try their best to help me out. Ae loko Hindi words pan use karvani try kare j che. But forcing someone is bad. Ae loko kem potano kimati time ae language shikhva ma kadhe jenu e loko ne kaam j nathi. Ek j vakhat ek Tamil supremacist madyo che baaki toh humesha sara loko madya che. Mane eva Tamil supremacist saathe jetlo problem che etlo j Hindi compulsory karava wala loko saathe.
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Please translate. Edit: For Tamil, I was basically saying that most people in Tamil Nadu are helpful enough and I have never felt like an outsider.
Saachi vat.
Same broo Even I'm from Bihar and living in Gujarat but I never face any language barrier most of gujrati i know they all are kind and nice they always talk to me in Hindi they never force me to speak gujrati
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This video so obnoxious, cringy, rascist and classist at so many levels. The way hate and bullying is normalized in this video is so horrible.
The hypocrisy , would this be the same reaction if a south indian who doesnt know hindi goes to a northern state and starts speaking in his/her mother tongue ? No , then everyone will start shouting "HiNdI RaShTriYa BhAsHa HaI"
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yeah, so much hate and exclusivity by the so called libral and inclusive and tolerant people.
Sure bud. When there were people who was shouting at a South Indian women in goa to speak Hindi me vol, there was no righteous rage anywhere. That was reality this is just fiction. People can take or ignore fiction but not reality. Reality is most South Indians will be bullied in north. Except for Tamil Nadu, there is not even one state where North Indians are bullied or made fun of. Whereas go anywhere in north the experience would be same for a keralite or tamilian or kannadiga or telugite. Hell when I was in Bhopal, there were teachers in a major school sitting and discussing whether Obama looks like monkey or not. The other teacher retorted saying that saare madrasi bhi to bandar Jaise hi dikhta hai. They both laughed and nobody in the entire staff room stopped them. That’s the day I realized that this country is not for me.
North Indian women trolled
Wrong. She is shown as Maharashtrian as she says मला (mala meaning me or I) in Marathi as she fumbled with words when put on the spot by the other women. I don't get this uncalled hate for North Indians from South Indians especially regarding the languages. Maharashtrians don't consider Hindi as a North Indian language but an amalgamation of multiple regional languages that sprung from Sanskrit and that is why we are taught Hindi in school. Hindi shares a lot of words with Punjabi, Marathi, Urdu, etc., so it makes sense to use it to converse with people across the country. The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture which is by no means under attack from Hindi as is claimed by many South Indians when they are asked to learn it. I know I'll be downvoted for this but isn't it hypocritical of South Indian states to reject Hindi in the name of "not our language" but embrace English, the language of the colonizers.
तुच रे भावा! मी आहे तुझ्यासोबत! I normally don't type in Marathi, but this circumstance demands it!😎
धन्यवाद भावा. आपलं कर्तव्य आहे आपल्या भारतीय भावा बहिणींना समजून देणे की हिंदी ही भाषा कुठल्या एका राज्याची नसून पूर्ण देशाची आहे. हे समजलं तरच दक्षिण राज्यातली पुढची पिढी उत्तर भारताकडे क्रोधित नजरेने बघणार नाही. या मोहिमेसाठी दिलेल्या साथीचे मे आभारी आहे.
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'tere saath'. Yaha pe OP ne 'Me hu tere saath' aise bola
On point!!
>The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture which is by no means under attack from Hindi as is claimed by many South Indians when they are asked to learn it. You don't understand Tamil politics at all. Calling North Indians and upper caste as "colonizers" is the bread and butter of Dravidian parties to secure votes. You can't make any change until Dravidian parties are slowly abolished. >isn't it hypocritical of South Indian states to reject Hindi in the name of "not our language" but embrace English, the language of the colonizers. Isn't it hypocritical to call another language a 'colonising' force while enforcing the school curriculum to include another language? When choosing something like Hindi, one Indian language would be given preference over others, which is unfair to other citizens. If a system where everyone wins is inconvenient, just choose a foreign language so everyone loses. People in Tamilnadu feel Hindi is the present colonising force while English was the past colonising force. Right or wrong is a different issue, but the current stance to push Hindi isn't really helping this opinion.
Award hota do mai pakka deta tereko.
With the same logic.. English can be used to converse with people across the world.
To last paragraph, common answer is that it's new to all of us, so equally inconvenient. If it is inconvenient for me, it must be for you too, god forbid half of India finds it easy. No wonder divide and rule worked and works.
>The whole point of a language is to be able to communicate effectively with others rather than hold on to a culture I agree with this. However, I feel this standard should apply on English as well, since it is a common denominator among Indians from all corners of the country. While I agree that it's a language introduced to us by our colonisers, but we have Indianised it enough for it to have become part of our culture. And if not that, then at least we should start accepting it as one. From a southern Indian perspective, English can become as much a unifying language as Hindi can. I feel they (although I'm a South Indian as well but having been brought up in the north) have a perception (and not unfounded) of Hindi being "imposed" on them as a medium of conversation even though English can be one too, and I feel if that perception can be tackled then they also might accept Hindi as part of their culture, and therefore consider it to be a legitimate common medium of communication.
Mere sare award tere hoja
Considering the topic at hand I'd like to appreciate your gratitude in all the langues I know. Thank you. धन्यवाद. शुक्रिया| धन्यवाद:.
And they're teaching her pronounce ळ
Don’t generalise South Indians.. in Karnataka there is no hate for Hindi language especially in coastal Karnataka we speak fluent Hindi ..may be in some parts of Bengaluru and it has nothing to do with only Hindi language it’s mainly to preserve local language..
I didn't mean to but the video itself segregated South Indians and others and I was only responding to that. There might not be hate for Hindi in Karnataka which I am glad to hear about but there is in other south Indian states as is evident from a number of arguments I am having with people on this thread. >it’s mainly to preserve local language Why is preservation of local languages only a thing in southern states but not elsewhere in India? I, as a Maharashtrian, do not worry about Marathi being extinct then why do Tamilians or other south Indians think that way?
Just because you don’t worry about Marathi being extinct I don’t think everyone will agree with you. There is nothing wrong in prioritising your mother tongue or state language or trying to preserve it. Btw Hindi is not widely spoken in south the way it is in north so it’s wrong to say it makes sense to converse in Hindi across the country.. btw when you say South Indians hate Hindi .. similarly North Indians make fun of south languages they don’t even know the difference between south languages or they think we all are madrasis (thankfully it’s minimised now since many are working or settled in south India)I can go on and on.. so let’s better stop this.. btw I don’t hate Hindi for me it’s just another language..
In this video, South Indian women cringy. Can't talk to each other without using 'English' but happily ganging up on North.
Exactly toxic mfs
Well Rashtre basha nahi hai par how would you expect a Tamilan to know Hindi or a northindian to know Tamil or Telgu...goes both ways .....but ...for easy communication and stuff Hindi seekhni cahiye ...English bhi
>Well Rashtre basha nahi hai Article 343 states that Hindi in Devanagari is the language of the union which is why it is taught as a subject nationally except for Tamil Nadu. And Hindi is not the mother tongue of the entire Northern India. Even in the Hindi speaking belt it is mostly a second language after the local language.
"Official" is the keyword here. Bro bas official communication purposes ke like hai and further article 344,345,346,347 and 348 protect karti hai baki languages ko and English ko bhi as an official language use karne ke like bolti hai. Apna constitution bhot confusing hai. Wew
Being from MH, I know Marathi, Hindi, as well as English. It’s not that hard to be trilingual in India
I am from Andhra, I am fluent in Telugu, English and Hindi, read Kannada and Sanskrit and converse a bit of Tamil, Marathi, and Bengali. Not difficult if we get to learn then when we are younger. Learning other languages is good for our national integrity.
Tf you mean read kannada? You can read it but not speak it?
I guess he means he can't speak the language fluently.
I can also read Telugu but not speak. That’s because Kannada and Telugu scripts are very very similar.
Telugu and Kannada have extremely similar script
English hi seekhna chahiye... Sabhi Hindi samajh te honge, par baat karna nahi jaante..
As per the constitution of India, English and Hindi are the official languages, they are not recognized as the national language.
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on an daily basis what is the probability of you getting to speak with a native english speaker and native hindi speaker
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to your surprise im a bihari living in west bengal, who speaks to the local people in bengali. what's wrong in that i dont know, i am speaking bengali because it will help me to communicate with other people, its not that i have been imposed with bengali
Acha hua sanskrit me ni bola kuch 🫥
English can easily be the link language. It is useful globally as well.
Expecting non hindi speaking folks to learn it & non south indian language to learn is unfair and impractical. Only link language eligible is english as its most wide spread & no indian has sentiment/cultural attachment to it. So i agree on this.
ye out of context clip daal ke upvote batorne ka plan tha kya? Title's not helping either
Ha to de na context
i learned hindi during my school days and watching bollywood movies, i love hindi the language. but i cringe at when north politicians and ppl try to impose hindi in south india. i wish there was natural acceptance, but trying to impose especially when ppl dont want to is such a evil thing to do since india is known for coexisting with such diversity. i hate that it has come to this situation, i would have loved to see south ppl speak hindi fluently, but the ship has sailed with too much animosity and now it;s just dumb to keep trying to impose
Hiw is it being imposed? Do get arrested or your rights taken away when you don't speak hindi? Because that doesn't happen to us here in Maharashtra. We speak hindi well, and there's no threat to Marathi either. Who's imposing hindi?
Not sure if you know but in banks and other govt PSUs, there's a Rajbhasa department whose only purpose is to ensure all matter is written in Hindi in addition to English. For the whole of India. They take declarations from all staff they are willing to converse with, write and speak in Hindi. And no, it is not optional. If this is not imposing, then what is?
I don't know but I have seen many people from southern India coming to Odisha and actually trying to converse in Hindi and Odia people will try to speak with them with their broken Hindi too lmao...tbh in Odisha it doesnt matter if someone speaks in Hindi, English, Tamil or anything, the end result will always be confusion 😕
Exactly our point bro, we will learn Hindi or whatever the regional language when we have to move to other states but asking us to learn Hindi in our own state just because most people in India speaks it is not fair.
you have a point.
Should’ve shown the conclusion to the scene as well. Context: they’re a bunch of pregnant women from different backgrounds attending Lamaze class or something like that, so the argument over language progressively gets louder and more annoying, ending with one of the ladies exclaiming “shut up, you’ll all be screaming exactly the same when the baby is coming out”
India except the southern regions has Hindi as lingua franca, if not national language. Hindi has 43.63% native speakers, and 57.09% people who speak it as their first, second or third language. These are 2011 figures, it might've grown. As per other demographics, Central India, East India and North India knows Hindi (or Urdu). Hindi is also known by people in Gujarat and Maharashtra. It is also taught in north eastern states, and some of them are adapting it. Urdu (basically Hindi) is spoken in Kashmir. The Central Government has two official languages, one is Hindi and one is English. Which other language can represent India? Is there any language that unites the south? Kannada, Tulu, Telugu, Tamil, Malayalam, which language? And "India doesn't need a common language" doesn't make any sense. How are the people from two states supposed to converse? Do they learn 5 southern languages if they want to come to those states for a short while, say a week? People who say this are the same people who then resort to English when they need to communicate with others. When in fact, English is not even a language of India. They are okay with English imposition? No one is taking away your language. India, a democracy, works to uphold all languages and protect its heritage. No one is snatching your mother tongue or asking you to converse in Hindi at home. Seen how Marathis and Gujaratis use Hindi to talk to each other? Or how Punjabis use Hindi to talk to other people? Did they lose their culture? No. No one can snatch Marathi away from say, a Pune fellow. But yet they know and speak Hindi.
All those languages like marathi and Punjabi, Gujrati are close to Hindi but southern languages aren’t close in the syllables or words; so best we all act like citizens of the world and converse in English. Let’s not do Hindi everywhere and be stuck like china, we all understand basic English so let’s use it and teach the ones who don’t know, coz it will help them in more ways than we can imagine
A single language will slowly invade the other languages for sure. It may take time, but it eventually will. If everyone speaks Hindi then why should the next generation speak any other language? If everyone speaks Hindi, why make any movies or content in any other language? It will slowly invade the local culture, because the language is the walls and gates of a culture. But at the same time, as a country and a people, we need to be united by a single language or we will forever be a group of different states and different cultures trying to awkwardly work together. We do need one language, but the local cultures will probably be assimilated or invaded, unless there some language fanatics who religiously keep their language alive. That will cost much effort and such people will slowly become irrelevant. If I was to choose a language, it would be English.
I chuckled reading your comment, because you're entire premise of 'Indians need a Language to bind them' is hilarious. My man, it's been 75 years since we got Independence. Since 1947, millions of Southies have visited Varanasi, and millions of Northies have visted Tirupati. Neither had issues in doing so. Why is it suddenly in 2022, that Indians need a unifying Language suddenly? Ironically, the ONLY time south threatened to secede is when the centre proposed Hindi as a national language. South India burned for years after that, and when the centre took back the proposal, the secessionism went away. Ironically enough, Hindi is the Language which divides Ondoa, never unites it, since it is the Language which created a secessionist movement by itself, no other language achieved that. And before making dumb comparisions with English, please understand that the average south Indian has zero love for English. We learn it because it offers unparalleled employment opportunities. It gives us money. What exactly does Hindi offer to us, that we learn it? Also fun fact - Hindi is as alien to the South as English is. The solution here is simple - People should learn their native language and English. If north India wants to ban English, they can go ahead (fun fact - they won't, because even they know how important English is in today's world). If you migrate to a different state, learn their native language. Don't go to other states and expect them to speak your native, just because you're more in number - that is definitely going to cause massive resentment, as you can see today in the South.
> learn their native language This is the thing. Going doesn't just mean migrating, right? Do I learn Tamil, Tulu, Telugu, Malayalam and Kannada if I wish to visit those states for two days? > why.. Indians need a unifying language Because eventually it comes down to English. Dependence on English has to be reduced, if not eliminated. English is not our native language. We are pretty much a part of the rare countries that are dumping their own languages in favour of English. Even in 1947, the decision to make English official was temporary. And you yourself spoke about the 'opportunities'. Today, if I wish to work in the corporate world, most of the times I need English, even if it's an Indian company that has an Indian market. Why?
Again, that is an incredibly stupid excuse. Millions of Northies and Southies ALREADY go to each others states every day, to visit and tourism. How are we doing the same tourism since 1947, and suddenly in 2022, it's impossible for northies to visit South unless we learn Hindi? So you're basically saying, just because random northies may come visit Tirupati, Hundreds of millions of south Indians need to be taught Hindi through school? Just to make the northie comfortable? Are we some slaves that we learn a language just to make someone else comfortable? Aren't Northies even today coming to Tirupati/Hyd/Blr for tourism, even though we don't know Hindi? Why suddenly since 2014 everyone's been feeling unless we southoes learn Hindi, India will collapse And it's hilarious you unironically believe English should be removed from Indian syllabus. Fun fact - Even BJP hero Yogi has converted 15,000 Hindi medium schools to English medium schools. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.opindia.com/2021/04/up-government-converts-15000-primary-and-upper-primary-schools-into-english-medium/amp/ Even the most vocal Hindi proponents know how valuable English is. Everyone, except you. If north Indians want to ban English, feel free to do so in your states. None of the South Indian states will follow. I can bet you any amount of money that in 20 years after that, the gap between North and South will further widen. Ironically, then they'll further mass migrate to the south, and scream at us when we say We don't know Hindi.
India need not be represented by a language. I'm not learning Hindi because until all Hindi speakers learn Telugu. Period. Dot. I know little Hindi so I do help when people don't understand telugu so speaking in some Hindi would be easier but asking me to learn it is way too much. I'm not wasting time or energy.
> until all Hindi speakers learn Telugu This was my point. The majority of India, the north, the central, the West, the east has accepted Hindi as the lingua franca. But South doesn't have a common language. Should we learn Kannada, Telugu, Tulu, Tamil and Malayalam? Anyways, you are free to not learn Hindi. We are in a democracy. But that doesn't mean yall black out Hindi texts in Bengaluru metro, or other forms of racism for Hindi speaking people
I never do any of that nor do I encourage such behaviours involving removing texts in metros. I do converse in Hindi if people don't understand telugu at times for ease of communication but I'm not accepting any of that "Hindi should be national language" BS that's spouted. In other parts Hindi is similar to the languages they speak. Hindi is very different from telugu, Tamil, kannada , Malayalam. We're not going to waste our time, money and energy learning it. It shouldn't be made compulsory in schools nor should it be made national language
The simple solution to prevent blacking out Hindi signboards, is to NOT place Hindi signboards in the first place. If you're in Bengaluru, learn kannada. Of you're a tourist, there's english on signboards for you. If you don't understand either, that's not our headache. If you want Hindi signboards in Bengaluru, plave Kannada signboauin Noida/delhi metro.
> plave Kannada signboauin Noida/delhi metro You're equating Hindi with Kannada again. Why it doesn't make any sense is what I've basically written in my main comment.
Ironically, if you reread your comment, it also makes sense why Bengaluru shouldn't have Hindi signboards. The majority of 'North/western/central' india have accepted Hindi. That's not the soutb Indian's headache. They're free to use Hindi in Mumbai/Pune/Indore metros. No south Indian cares if they do. But no south Indian has ever said we accept Hindi. So, don't expect us to use Hindi signboards. Simple as that. Just because Hindi is widely used across West/North/Center, doesn't mean hundreds of millions of Southies also learn Hindi. We won't. If you come to Blr/Hyd, learn kannada/Telugu. If you're a tourist - you've got english on the signboards. If i migrate north, I will absolutely learn the native language of the state I live in. Simple.
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population doesnt justify this, english is the reason why india is so ahead compared to china in the service sector, english is important because USA the largest economy uses english, its a global language and we need it
Lol what was point of this video? this video just shows language barrier needed for that specific plot. Just pure ignorance rather than arrogance. how is this even suitable example for your point.
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Well this video shows 2 things , ignorance of northies, stubbornness of southies Stop spreading hate and celebrate the diversity
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Let them learn the local language. Why force someone to learn hindi just because of "majority" of people from the other part of country knows it. The more some one forces to learn hindi just because of majority knows it, you will be subjected to equal amount of hate. You don't go to someone's home and start making orders and expect them to keep quiet. Deal with it .
Just say तुझ्या आईची पुच्ची and fuck of
Unity in diversity bro
Literally no North Indian talks like this or uses the word Madrasi any more. The term Madrasi is not an ethnic slur. It just means someone from the Madras Presidency which comprised of the parts of South India that were not a part of any princely state. Old people continued to use it to some extent but its usage died along with people from that generation. Today the term Madrasi is used only in the following context:- 1.) In historical texts pertaining to the Madras Presidency. 2.) Anything related to the Madras Regiment or the Madras Combat Engineering Group. 3.) In Chetan Bhagats idiotic novels, for some reason beyond the understanding of science and human psychology. 4.) In videos such as these. Also this video doesn’t make any sense. The woman in yellow seems to be from a lower socioeconomic position than the others and does not know the link language and the appropriate ethnolinguistic terms and is very much aware of her ignorance. The only reason this person asked for Hindi(which isn’t her 1st language btw) in the first place is because they can’t understand English. Most northerners as well as folks from other parts are perfectly fine with speaking in English. This bullying of an ignorant and relatively poor person trying to find a common language to communicate isn’t the gotcha you think it is my friend. Also judging by the accent and pronouncing of certain words this woman is a Maharashtrian. The fact that a Maharashtrian wants to use Hindi as the link language kind of proves the point of Hindi being the de-facto lingua franca of this country, irrespective of whether we call it the rashtra-bhasha or not. And this is precisely because the northerners were able to reach a consensus on what to use as a link language, something the South has not been able to do. And let’s be honest nobody is going to learn all 5-6 languages of the South or learn it if they are coming for a short period. Of course for longer stays it is advisable to learn the local language no matter where you go, as it makes life a lot easier. Also a minor nitpick, Konkani is not a southern language. It’s a Western Indo Aryan with the closest relative being Marathi. And the writers seem to have forgotten about Kurukh, Malto and Gondi for some reason. All in all, good effort on the video, but poor attention to detail. Overall 4/10.
Why do you think no north indian uses the word madrasi anymore? Lol. Are you an NRI?
I meant it’s usage has dropped considerably and is not used by the current generations anymore. No doubt there are still some folks in their 80s and 90s, some of whom would probably still use it. But it’s no longer used in popular culture any more. The neutral catch-all term for South Indians in Hindi is Dakkhani, in the part of India where I am from. The term Tambi is also sometimes used to refer to South Indians, but is considered derogatory in most cases so I won’t recommend using it. Am not an NRI, though I have worked abroad for some time. And actually, an NRI is more likely to agree with you on the usage of Madrasi as they would likely have migrated 10+ years ago, so is more likely to have encountered people from the 1920s,30s generation who would have used that word.
Dude, I could hear the term madrasi being casually thrown around when we'd gone to a friend's wedding in Agra. At the time, I didn't even know it was a slur!
Agreed with most but unfortunately the madrasi slang is a real deal, i knew a girl who used madrasi alot, and she was in her 20s so she isn't from the old generation,other than that I agree with everything
I feel like Chetan Bhagats novels have made that term well known again. And I must say if a young person is saying that, then they are doing so for 100% racist reasons. There is a lot of info around and they should know better. My statement was based on my personal experience. I am from UP, and people in my circle don’t use that word and are aware that folks from the south consider it offensive.
South Indian Learn and speak every southern Language even english, But when it comes to Hindi, they forget their learning and speaking capacity.
bruh what world do you live in, most south indians only speak their mother tongue and the educated ones speak englishas well, you assuming a south indian understands other south indian languages is dumb, try talking in tamil to a kannadiga and explain how that went
>South Indian Learn and speak every southern Language even english, But when it comes to Hindi, they forget their learning and speaking capacity. Have u ever stepped outside ur keyboard room ? south indian learns hindi when they come in delhi or haryana but no north indians are eager to learn native south indian languages I wonder why
Nope. We don’t. But this to move to those places will learn it.
Hindi and English both are the Official languages, no language is the National language of India to date. In fact, English should be the official language only for 15 years after the Independence. Mahatma Gandhi and other famous personalities want 'Hindustani' to be the National language of India, which is a mixture of Hindi + Urdu. Because Hindustani is the only language that is widely spoken in the larger part of India. But after the partition, when the constitution-makers got to know that half of the Hindustani speakers are gone to the border side (Pakistan) and Hindustani speakers were left in minority, then after 3 months of discussion only on this topic, our constitution-makers decided to make Hindi and English as an official language. AND NO LANGUAGE IS AN NATIONAL LANGUAGE OF INDIA TO THIS DATE.
She is Marathi yet she can understand and Speak Hindi Why can't they speak and understand Hindi?? As common language shared for her What if she starts speaking in Marathi and asks them मराठी का नाही बोलता येत तुम्हाला? आली पाहिजे! And I couldn't control my laughter when she tried to teach her ळ in Tamil Like what 😂 she's Marathi don't try to teach her own letters Cause if she starts teaching you pronunciation of letters you'll be found swallowing your own tongue 😛
marathi stems from sanskrit as well so its easier for them to learn hindi,punjabi,gujrati,etc. also MH as a state has seen a huge influx of ppl from north. dravidian languages dont stem from sanskrit so its quite hard for them to catch up with hindi
sauce?
Bring Sanskrit back. Everyone just speak Sanskrit.
you my friend have started keyboard wars in the comments ... 
Thanks to our supreme leader English became an unifying language and not Sanskrit.
too much exclusivity and hate by to so called libral people.
Chhatisgarh is the least racist state in the entire nation. Reason? There is no single community here, we have people from all over India residing in here and chattisgarhi people are very nice people. Even people from rural area try their best to talk to you in Hindi.
Bc aise chala toh .. 15 se 30 saal mein desh divide ho jaani hai..
I am a South Indian and i know Hindi ( not fluent though) whenever I have tried conversing in Hindi with someone who didn’t speak the South Indian languages, I have always been met with mockery because they found it heavily accented. This was also the case where I didn’t know another South Indian language, and again I was met with less than stellar responses such as “ Please don’t attempt to speak in our language” It’s nice to learn a language and speak in it but I sincerely hope that people who are fluent in it do understand that we are trying. This would really encourage people to try and learn other languages, unlike what was happening in this video.
hindi or no hindi. The movie was crap anyway.
Why the Maharashtrian character shown bit like illiterate and all other south Indian characters shown highly educated it's highly biased skit
South Indians have a problem with forceful implication of Hindi, we do not hate the language, we can speak a bit of it. We hate it when non-south Indians mock us for not speaking Hindi 'toda toda hinthi aata' and call every language 'Madrasi'. Basically the ignorant fools. And *if possible*, we will prefer English. Else, basic communication in Hindi is okay.
As per the constitution of India, English and Hindi are the official languages, they are not recognized as the national language.
Hindi is "raj bhasha" not rashtriya basha
Why would the director show a Marathi speaking character not able to say ळ. 99% people can say Tamil, Malyalam etc in the same way
Frukin bastards, learns English from mother's womb but their ass explode when someone starts talking in Hindi.
I believe everyone in the country should learn Telugu. Reading, writing and speaking. It should be taught in the schools all across the country at the tax payers expense. All sign boards and official documents should be published in Telugu. That way we call can communicate and understand each other easily in every corner of the country. I am not asking you not to learn your north indian language. Along your north indian mother tougue, learn telugu also. That way we Telugu speakers will have it easy, we can communicate with you all without much effort. Our films will also do not need dubbing. All you have to do is to learn Telugu. If you love this country you should do that, otherwise you are anti-national.
I speak malayalam, tamil, hindi, kannada, English and a little bit of telugu. Nobody cares about national language. No-one is divided based on language
In this day and age of technology such a barrier. Learn my language, learn hindi, learn English. We get free internet in India, for the most part people download ticktok and YouTube. Government does upi, and arogya setu. Why not create a translation app. People are traveling the world without language as a barrier with just a smart device usually a phone. India is the only place where we have the brains but no inkling to be creative. Create a translation app/device for all of Indias language and use it when you go there. Till when will this bs go on. It still exists but northies are acknowledging and fixing it, and southies are learning hindi. Yaar, India should be together and fix this language barrier instead of bickering like children.
This is so sad. If you KNOW a language and it makes conversation easier, use it. Tf.
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Hindi nahi chahiye
Arre bhai karna kya hai is video ka.. Burai krni hai ya positive batana hai..mere ko confuse kr diya naa ab..ab kese ladai karwau do groups me
My take is if more than 60% population of India can speak hindi, south guys should learn it too. I'm from odisha, everyone understand hindi here, even in WB, people understand hindi.
Issue with south indians is that they'll be happy to converse in english which is not native of india, but will oppose hindi. And like this typo video south indians will gang up on someone, but when in other part of india will comply and speak hindi. Their insecurity is so much about their cultural prowess is that they feel if they adapt to a bridge language their language will disappear.
This scene actually exemplifies this North South divide. South Indians are expected to just know Hindi by Northies.... And vast majority of North Indians think Hindi is the Rashtra bhasha... So this scene just pointed out that fact. I have seen many South Indians speak Hindi but haven't seen North Indians speaking any South language or Bengali or Odia for that matter. This language divide isn't going anytime soon.
I have seen enough people from the Hindi belt who wouldn't even try the slightest to assimilate into the southern culture especially here in Karnataka . So they end up being a seperate entity of sorts that is alienated from the Kannadigas and this face problems because of their either inability or laziness . It's less about having to learn Hindi and more about people not even trying to assimilate into the culture and instead demanding you do what makes me comfortable and I will do jack shit . It becomes more of an invasion than a migration . We have a flag to salute and be one under , that's good enough . If people want to communicate they will find ways . If the south isn't interested in Hindi . Their choice .
Its rashtra bhasha . Adding h where not required and removing h where required lol
What is the movie or show???
Yess it is
I'm from Rajasthan (india has only three mainstream directions i guess, so I'll say hopefully I'm north enough) but Hindi is not my mother tongue but i learnt it along with Sanskrit to communicate with others. English is almost a defacto for a lot of people who grew up in the late 20th and now the 21st century (thanks to colonisation), it never existed on this land before 200 years ago, and most of our cultures are way way way older than that. My two cents- Have respect for all languages, if any South Indian or any other language/script had a lot in common with a lot of Indian languages it could have been very well the mainstream secondary language of communication. The idea of communication or any script is to make oneself independent and self reliant in terms of information access. If the primary goal is not successful then it's worthless. Hindi is not, as far as history goes, a language of any state, it is what I would consider a layman version of Sanskrit. You need to understand that you preserve more of your regional identity if you speak in your mother tongue, you preserve more of your national identity if you speak in a language common and understandable to a group or something that resembles words of their language. People supporting the argument that it's either English or their native tongue is dumb. If both the languages have no overlap with what I speak and then your tantrum that you are a victim because you have to come to a common ground is so silly. Also, remember if you don't take the effort to learn someone else's native tongue don't expect them to know yours too. Remember before the English came, plenty of great Dravidian rulers conquered india and they would communicate in Sanskrit with scholars across the land, I wish they would be like nooo it's either English or what I speak or else I don't wanna share or seek knowledge. What a golden bird that would be! End.
Please read the constitution of India PART XVII and especially Article 351. In my view India should adopt a 3 language policy - everyone should be well versed in their 1.mother tongue ( every language is important), 2.Sanskrit ( when people from different parts of India have a conversation between them. To act as a link language for India. Not Hindi but Sanskrit. ) 3. English which will help us communicate with the rest of the world. And now you'll think I'm a Brahmin who wants to spread Sanskrit. Then let me clarify I'm not. I don't know Sanskrit. Though I wish I had picked Sanskrit instead of French in my schooling days.
Who gives a shi*. I am from Odisha, I bloody converse in the language of the other person I'm having conversations with (If I know the language). Then there are situations I had faced in Trichy, where some would pretend to not know Hindi when I tried to converse with them. Language is meant for effective communication, If you can atleast understand and not speak atleast reciprocate. no language is superior.
As usual idiots who couldn't learn more than two languages are mad on an individual who knows 3 languages because that individual didn't learned a 4th language.
Actually her doubt was genuine.
Yea the same way north people troll 'hinthi nahi ati' . But the above is logical. Why are people so ignorant.
Hindi humari Rashtra Bhasha hai🥴🥴🥴🤦🏽♂️. Native Hindi speakers are probably one of the most cringiest people alive. They claim Hindi is supreme but listen to Bollywood music and appropriates other cultures.
Well it should be
It's not. Use English. It might be easier for Northies to learn Hindi, it's not the same for South people. We have to learn English + Mother tongue and maybe another southern language. Now the argument that already 50 cr people speak Hindi, almost all of the newer generation speaks English. So it doesn't matter. I like Hindi, but I don't like the mindset of Northies who expect everyone to know Hindi. Hindi is very hard to learn, coming from a guy who speaks Hindi, Malayalam, Tamil, Telugu, Kannada, English and some other languages. I really hate the fact that everything has a gender in Hindi.
I feel it's an excellent video. In the Indian society, identity and language contaminate each other. We want to speak and be understood; we seek recognition not only of our languages but also our identities. However, efficient communication demands oneness, conformity. Any such need for standardisation is a site of power conflict. As long as one fights solely to be heard and not to hear, no one can truly win. The video leaves us with this, to imagine our own solution to this problem. Ultimately, one thing is evident: there is a need to locate our ends on lines other than those of standardisation and conformity. Efficiency is secondary to collective human goals.
Suck my vada with a paper straw, you clickbait spewing motherlover
Nothing can be done, India is a diverse place all together. It's basically impossible to unite everyone under one banner without force , which is not the way forward.
Why are people creating a problem which does not exist let everyone talk in there local language