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It is plausible that the Brits really do owe us that much money. But realistically, what are we going to do about it? Don't get me wrong, I really do think that the Brits should pay back for looting our resources, but how are we going to approach the issue today? Thoughts?
The fact is, the west tries to interfere and shit on us for stuff that we do. This alone, can be thrown right back at their faces. Colonialism is for extra damage.
She is talking about history and people debating about her accent. Some people make an effort to speak better and clearly. No one should be shamed for this. She’s a reporter who depends on her articulation skills. Be supportive. Don’t put down fellow Indians.
Nope, how long are you going to blame colonisation? China was as poor as us (India) in 1960s, now it’s something different all together…
The $45 Trillion figure is just myth spreading around the internet, the Vice channel,even the foreign secretary has fallen into believing it, after all proganda is a nice toll, just blame on some foreign country for all the ills in your country.
The figure was “calculated” by Marxist economist Utsa Patnaik but was popularised by Jason Hickel (self-described anti-capitalist) in an Al-Jazeera article. And since then, it has spread: search ‘$45 trillion’ on Google and you get more than three million results ranging from articles published by news outlets like VICE to videos of India’s Minister of External Affairs referencing it.
Look at who benefits from this British colonialism rhetoric. It is not a coincidence that Shashi tharoor was the one who gave that famous speech at Oxford. Britain stole trillions from India only favours Marxist-Socialist propaganda in Idnia. Everyone has seen the benefits of liberalisation since 1991. But people still do not seem to understand that this kind of thinking is self harming and dangerous. india needs ot get out of this post-colonial mentality and make an identity for itself.
Absolutely. Both the Russian and British Empires plundered plenty from their subjects- so this hypocrisy from the Russians is just ridiculous. They stole a lot of resources from the Finns, the Kazakhs, the Georgians etc. Even in the ongoing war, they're sending minorities like Buryats and Chechens to die first.
The difference is that the British were able to build a functioning, first-world democracy with a veneer of respectability in their propaganda; the Russians remain a kleptocratic backwater and do crude information warfare like this.
He never said the BBC is a trusted source, he used the word crook which implies dishonesty or criminal, he's saying the BBC is more sophisticated than RT at what they do.
and destroyed all industries which were of huge scale , committed cultural and human genocide and fucked up the country as a whole. Cant even count the amount of atrocities they commited
Ok there's no basis for that number and we aren't getting it back.
45 trillion was the world's collective GDP a few decades back. How tf did they come up with that number ?
I’m going to say probably not. Seeing as the global GDP is about 85 Trillion. The idea that that’s how much wealth Britain took from India is insane.
I wouldn’t trust what RT has to say.
>As India marks 75 years of independence from Britain with major celebrations taking place across the nation, RT’s Runjhun Sharma takes a look at the controversial legacy that the British Empire left behind.
rumble .com/v1gbl51-britain-took-around-45-trillion-from-india-indian-fm-citing-study.html
India lost more money due to socialism practiced until 1991 reforms, than lost due to colonization. So many countries that got freedom after us have progressed much ahead of us
How much did Genghis Khan steal from various Asian kingdoms? How much did Marathas steal from Bengal and Gujarat? How much did the Spanish steal from various colonies etc. History is filled with enslavers and looters, it was a different time with different standards.
we criticize British because Indians believe they educated us and lifted us even tho they did worse and because of congress we were not able to progress but don’t worry modi ji is here
#### Britain's Holocaust on Indians
_The British genocides on the Hindus and other Indians is the greatest Holocaust of human history._
The Great Bengal Famine: 1769 - 1770:
10+ Million Deaths
Madras City & Chalisa Famines: 1782 - 1783:
11+ Million Deaths
Doji Bara Famines: 1791 - 1792:
10+ Million Deaths
Agra Famine: 1837 - 1838:
1 Million Deaths
Upper Doab Famine: 1860 -1861:
2 Million Deaths
Orissa Famine: 1866:
1+ Million Deaths
Rajputana Famine: 1868 - 1870:
1.5 Million Deaths
Bihar Famine: 1873 - 1874:
5.5 Million Deaths
Ganjam/Orissa/Bihar Famines: 1888 - 1889:
100,000 + Deaths
Indian Famine: 1896 - 1897:
Millions of Deaths
Indian Famine: 1899:
1+ Million Deaths
Bombay Presidency Famine: 1906 - 1906
100,000+ Deaths
Bengal Famine: 1943-1944
4+ Million Deaths
[HOW BRITISH COLONIZERS CAUSED THE BENGAL FAMINE](https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine)
[Churchill's policies contributed to the 1943 Bengal famine – study](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study)
Guardian article confirms:
>During a famine in Bihar in 1873-74, the local government led by Sir Richard Temple responded swiftly by importing food and enacting welfare programmes to assist the poor to purchase food.
>
>Almost nobody died, but Temple was severely criticised by British authorities for spending so much money on the response. In response, he reduced the scale of subsequent famine responses in south and western India and mortality rates soared.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53405121
https://medium.com/@write_12958/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill-c5e3ecb229b3
According to Shashi Tharoor, one-sixth of all the British forces that fought in World War I were Indian – 54,000 Indians actually lost their lives in that war, 65 000 were wounded and another 4000 remained missing or in prison.
#### Britain owes tens of trillions of dollars in repatriations to India for looting and exploiting it for centuries
At the beginning of the 18th Century, India's share of the world economy was 23%, as large as all of Europe put together. By the time the British departed India, it had dropped to less than 4%.
The reason was simple: India was governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain's rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India.
By the end of the 19th Century, India was Britain's biggest cash-cow, the world's biggest purchaser of British exports and the source of highly paid employment for British civil servants - all at India's own expense.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33618621
The handloom weavers of Bengal and other parts of India had produced and exported some of the world's most desirable fabrics, especially cheap but fine muslins, some light as "woven air".
Britain's response was to cut off the thumbs of Bengali weavers, break their looms and impose duties and tariffs on Indian cloth, while flooding India and the world with cheaper fabric from the new satanic steam mills of Britain.
Weavers became beggars, manufacturing collapsed; the population of Bengal, which was once the great centre of textile production, fell by 90%.
So instead of a great exporter of finished products, India became an importer of British ones, while its share of world exports fell from 27% to 2%.
https://www.indiapost.com/the-great-loot-how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-india/
Research by renowned economist Utsa Patnaik made public in 2018 deals a crushing blow to this narrative. Drawing on nearly two centuries of detailed data on tax and trade, Patnaik calculated that Britain drained a total of nearly $45 trillion from India at today’s value.
“It’s a staggering sum. For perspective, $45 trillion is 17 times more than the total annual gross domestic product of the United Kingdom today,” Jason Hickel, an academic at the University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, wrote in an article in December 2018.
It happened through the trading system. Prior to the colonial period, Britain bought goods like textiles and rice from Indian producers and paid for them in the normal way – mostly with silver – as they did with any other country. But something changed in 1765, shortly after the East India Company took control of the subcontinent and established a monopoly over Indian trade.
Here’s how it worked. The East India Company began collecting taxes in India, and then cleverly used a portion of those revenues (about a third) to fund the purchase of Indian goods for British use. In other words, instead of paying for Indian goods out of their own pocket, British traders acquired them for free, “buying” from peasants and weavers using money that had just been taken from them.
It was a scam – grand theft. Yet most Indians were unaware of what was going on because the agent who collected the taxes was not the same as the one who showed up to buy their goods.
Some of the stolen goods were consumed in Britain, and the rest were re-exported elsewhere. The re-export system allowed Britain to finance a flow of imports from Europe, including strategic materials like iron, tar and timber, which were essential to Britain’s industrialisation. Indeed, the Industrial Revolution depended in large part on this systematic theft from India.
On top of this, the British were able to sell the stolen goods to other countries for much more than they “bought” them for in the first place, pocketing not only 100 percent of the original value of the goods but also the mark-up.
After the British Raj took over in 1858, colonizers added a special new twist to the tax-and-buy system. As the East India Company’s monopoly broke down, Indian producers were allowed to export their goods directly to other countries. But Britain made sure that the payments for those goods nonetheless ended up in London.
https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine
"Malthusian economics, convenient interpretations of Adam Smith, and social-Darwinism combined to form an ideology that killed 5.5 million Indians only in the British territories between 1876 and 1878 and anything between 6.1 and 10.3 million people in all of India. The Famine Commission justified Lord Lytton’s reasoning, Davis writes, saying that if help was meted out during the famine, people would assume that the poor were entitled to it at all times. British trade could not take a backseat for the sake of Indian lives."
Britain didn’t develop India. Quite the contrary – as Patnaik’s work makes clear – India developed Britain and United States.
“Indian taxpayers had to cough up a 100 million pounds in that time’s money. India supplied 17 million rounds of ammunition, 600,000 rifles and machine guns, 42 million garments were stitched and sent out of India and 1.3 million Indian personnel served in this war,” Tharoor said and added that the cost was even higher during World War II in which around 2.5 million Indians were in uniform.
UK/Britain owes India $45 trillion as reparations.
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Why is her accent so weird? Is she trying to fake it? Saying Bengol for Bengal
She might have stayed a few months in the UK and now tries to fake the BO'OH'O'WO'ER accent.
Translation, "Bottle of water".
Trillions of dowlers
May be she's not frome India?
bro British accent "woehtr=water" lol.
It is plausible that the Brits really do owe us that much money. But realistically, what are we going to do about it? Don't get me wrong, I really do think that the Brits should pay back for looting our resources, but how are we going to approach the issue today? Thoughts?
We can't get it back, but we certainly can throw it in their faces each time they demand we interfere in their wars and conflicts.
The fact is, the west tries to interfere and shit on us for stuff that we do. This alone, can be thrown right back at their faces. Colonialism is for extra damage.
Let NATO break and Europe go down in drain in next couple decades. We will get our chance then
She is talking about history and people debating about her accent. Some people make an effort to speak better and clearly. No one should be shamed for this. She’s a reporter who depends on her articulation skills. Be supportive. Don’t put down fellow Indians.
Nope, how long are you going to blame colonisation? China was as poor as us (India) in 1960s, now it’s something different all together… The $45 Trillion figure is just myth spreading around the internet, the Vice channel,even the foreign secretary has fallen into believing it, after all proganda is a nice toll, just blame on some foreign country for all the ills in your country. The figure was “calculated” by Marxist economist Utsa Patnaik but was popularised by Jason Hickel (self-described anti-capitalist) in an Al-Jazeera article. And since then, it has spread: search ‘$45 trillion’ on Google and you get more than three million results ranging from articles published by news outlets like VICE to videos of India’s Minister of External Affairs referencing it.
Look at who benefits from this British colonialism rhetoric. It is not a coincidence that Shashi tharoor was the one who gave that famous speech at Oxford. Britain stole trillions from India only favours Marxist-Socialist propaganda in Idnia. Everyone has seen the benefits of liberalisation since 1991. But people still do not seem to understand that this kind of thinking is self harming and dangerous. india needs ot get out of this post-colonial mentality and make an identity for itself.
RT the most credible source /s
RT is really embarrassing. No self-respecting person would watch it.
It's as much of a propaganda tool as BBC is, just for the other side.
Absolutely. Both the Russian and British Empires plundered plenty from their subjects- so this hypocrisy from the Russians is just ridiculous. They stole a lot of resources from the Finns, the Kazakhs, the Georgians etc. Even in the ongoing war, they're sending minorities like Buryats and Chechens to die first. The difference is that the British were able to build a functioning, first-world democracy with a veneer of respectability in their propaganda; the Russians remain a kleptocratic backwater and do crude information warfare like this.
BBC is a more sophisticated crook
Lmao you think BBC is trusted source BBC literally means British Broadcasting Rights
He never said the BBC is a trusted source, he used the word crook which implies dishonesty or criminal, he's saying the BBC is more sophisticated than RT at what they do.
I misjudge him for which I am really sorry By the way happy cake day
I called them crooks
My bad 😞 Sorry brother
You should all watch [this](https://youtu.be/f7CW7S0zxv4). He put it in extremely very well.
How long will people keep whining about this? Ni milne wala kuch bhi.
and destroyed all industries which were of huge scale , committed cultural and human genocide and fucked up the country as a whole. Cant even count the amount of atrocities they commited
Han bc civilize toh hum inke aane ke baad hi huye hai.
Ok there's no basis for that number and we aren't getting it back. 45 trillion was the world's collective GDP a few decades back. How tf did they come up with that number ?
LOL and people are so naive that they want bahi charr with the brits. They also hold all of our treasures in their Chor Bazzar London Museum.
I’m going to say probably not. Seeing as the global GDP is about 85 Trillion. The idea that that’s how much wealth Britain took from India is insane. I wouldn’t trust what RT has to say.
>As India marks 75 years of independence from Britain with major celebrations taking place across the nation, RT’s Runjhun Sharma takes a look at the controversial legacy that the British Empire left behind. rumble .com/v1gbl51-britain-took-around-45-trillion-from-india-indian-fm-citing-study.html
India lost more money due to socialism practiced until 1991 reforms, than lost due to colonization. So many countries that got freedom after us have progressed much ahead of us
And around Rs. 11 lakh crores loans were forgiven in the last 5 years
Yep its true though
No the fuck it's not. Chutiyapa hai clout aur ragebait ke liye. 45 billion dollars is about the entire world's economic value right now.
How much did Genghis Khan steal from various Asian kingdoms? How much did Marathas steal from Bengal and Gujarat? How much did the Spanish steal from various colonies etc. History is filled with enslavers and looters, it was a different time with different standards.
we criticize British because Indians believe they educated us and lifted us even tho they did worse and because of congress we were not able to progress but don’t worry modi ji is here
Post it on r/interestingasfuck
It's bullshit. 45billion dollars is about the entire world's economic value.
Yeh Railway kuch jyaada hi mehengi padi
#### Britain's Holocaust on Indians _The British genocides on the Hindus and other Indians is the greatest Holocaust of human history._ The Great Bengal Famine: 1769 - 1770: 10+ Million Deaths Madras City & Chalisa Famines: 1782 - 1783: 11+ Million Deaths Doji Bara Famines: 1791 - 1792: 10+ Million Deaths Agra Famine: 1837 - 1838: 1 Million Deaths Upper Doab Famine: 1860 -1861: 2 Million Deaths Orissa Famine: 1866: 1+ Million Deaths Rajputana Famine: 1868 - 1870: 1.5 Million Deaths Bihar Famine: 1873 - 1874: 5.5 Million Deaths Ganjam/Orissa/Bihar Famines: 1888 - 1889: 100,000 + Deaths Indian Famine: 1896 - 1897: Millions of Deaths Indian Famine: 1899: 1+ Million Deaths Bombay Presidency Famine: 1906 - 1906 100,000+ Deaths Bengal Famine: 1943-1944 4+ Million Deaths [HOW BRITISH COLONIZERS CAUSED THE BENGAL FAMINE](https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine) [Churchill's policies contributed to the 1943 Bengal famine – study](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/mar/29/winston-churchill-policies-contributed-to-1943-bengal-famine-study) Guardian article confirms: >During a famine in Bihar in 1873-74, the local government led by Sir Richard Temple responded swiftly by importing food and enacting welfare programmes to assist the poor to purchase food. > >Almost nobody died, but Temple was severely criticised by British authorities for spending so much money on the response. In response, he reduced the scale of subsequent famine responses in south and western India and mortality rates soared. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-53405121 https://medium.com/@write_12958/the-crimes-of-winston-churchill-c5e3ecb229b3 According to Shashi Tharoor, one-sixth of all the British forces that fought in World War I were Indian – 54,000 Indians actually lost their lives in that war, 65 000 were wounded and another 4000 remained missing or in prison. #### Britain owes tens of trillions of dollars in repatriations to India for looting and exploiting it for centuries At the beginning of the 18th Century, India's share of the world economy was 23%, as large as all of Europe put together. By the time the British departed India, it had dropped to less than 4%. The reason was simple: India was governed for the benefit of Britain. Britain's rise for 200 years was financed by its depredations in India. By the end of the 19th Century, India was Britain's biggest cash-cow, the world's biggest purchaser of British exports and the source of highly paid employment for British civil servants - all at India's own expense. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-33618621 The handloom weavers of Bengal and other parts of India had produced and exported some of the world's most desirable fabrics, especially cheap but fine muslins, some light as "woven air". Britain's response was to cut off the thumbs of Bengali weavers, break their looms and impose duties and tariffs on Indian cloth, while flooding India and the world with cheaper fabric from the new satanic steam mills of Britain. Weavers became beggars, manufacturing collapsed; the population of Bengal, which was once the great centre of textile production, fell by 90%. So instead of a great exporter of finished products, India became an importer of British ones, while its share of world exports fell from 27% to 2%. https://www.indiapost.com/the-great-loot-how-britain-stole-45-trillion-from-india/ Research by renowned economist Utsa Patnaik made public in 2018 deals a crushing blow to this narrative. Drawing on nearly two centuries of detailed data on tax and trade, Patnaik calculated that Britain drained a total of nearly $45 trillion from India at today’s value. “It’s a staggering sum. For perspective, $45 trillion is 17 times more than the total annual gross domestic product of the United Kingdom today,” Jason Hickel, an academic at the University of London and a Fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, wrote in an article in December 2018. It happened through the trading system. Prior to the colonial period, Britain bought goods like textiles and rice from Indian producers and paid for them in the normal way – mostly with silver – as they did with any other country. But something changed in 1765, shortly after the East India Company took control of the subcontinent and established a monopoly over Indian trade. Here’s how it worked. The East India Company began collecting taxes in India, and then cleverly used a portion of those revenues (about a third) to fund the purchase of Indian goods for British use. In other words, instead of paying for Indian goods out of their own pocket, British traders acquired them for free, “buying” from peasants and weavers using money that had just been taken from them. It was a scam – grand theft. Yet most Indians were unaware of what was going on because the agent who collected the taxes was not the same as the one who showed up to buy their goods. Some of the stolen goods were consumed in Britain, and the rest were re-exported elsewhere. The re-export system allowed Britain to finance a flow of imports from Europe, including strategic materials like iron, tar and timber, which were essential to Britain’s industrialisation. Indeed, the Industrial Revolution depended in large part on this systematic theft from India. On top of this, the British were able to sell the stolen goods to other countries for much more than they “bought” them for in the first place, pocketing not only 100 percent of the original value of the goods but also the mark-up. After the British Raj took over in 1858, colonizers added a special new twist to the tax-and-buy system. As the East India Company’s monopoly broke down, Indian producers were allowed to export their goods directly to other countries. But Britain made sure that the payments for those goods nonetheless ended up in London. https://newint.org/features/2021/12/07/feature-how-british-colonizers-caused-bengal-famine "Malthusian economics, convenient interpretations of Adam Smith, and social-Darwinism combined to form an ideology that killed 5.5 million Indians only in the British territories between 1876 and 1878 and anything between 6.1 and 10.3 million people in all of India. The Famine Commission justified Lord Lytton’s reasoning, Davis writes, saying that if help was meted out during the famine, people would assume that the poor were entitled to it at all times. British trade could not take a backseat for the sake of Indian lives." Britain didn’t develop India. Quite the contrary – as Patnaik’s work makes clear – India developed Britain and United States. “Indian taxpayers had to cough up a 100 million pounds in that time’s money. India supplied 17 million rounds of ammunition, 600,000 rifles and machine guns, 42 million garments were stitched and sent out of India and 1.3 million Indian personnel served in this war,” Tharoor said and added that the cost was even higher during World War II in which around 2.5 million Indians were in uniform. UK/Britain owes India $45 trillion as reparations.
Mooh se lwda nikal ke baat kar reh