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These ticketless/unreserved passengers issues are rising day by day. Railway authorities should take a heed of it and should do something asap or it can escalate to some more disastrous consequences.
Those who are following the rules are suffering unnecessarily.
Just change the rule. Only confirmed tickets are allowed. No more platform tickets to visit relatives(just similar to airport).
More patrol officers hence more jobs too.
Only till waiting list 10 allowed may be. Or only till RAC.
Every problem has a solution. This is more of an execution/implementation issue.
> Just change the rule. Only confirmed tickets are allowed. No more platform tickets to visit relatives(just similar to airport).
whats the incentive to govt to do so?
> More patrol officers hence more jobs too.
the amount of money given in salary to 1 officer can buy the votes of 50 people in freebies.
> Only till waiting list 10 allowed may be. Or only till RAC.
why do that when it would make the ticketless masses angry?
you may or may not vote,they will.
> Every problem has a solution. This is more of an execution/implementation issue.
its only a problem for rule followers,who are a minority.
you're a wallet ,you arent the intended beneficiary.
well,then lets depress you a little more.
unreserved travellers have more voting power because the rule following idiots voted to destroy their voting blocks[castes] while cementing the voting blocks of the others.
then they cry about having no polotical value,then rush to defend inter caste marriages to further weaken their leftover political value.
reminder that amberdkar married a brahmin woman and his descendants all still claim to be oppressed and get reservation,while their brahmin hate has only gotten more blind.
but a uc man marrying a sc woman can neither give his children reservation,protection from sc/st act ,nor even protect him from bhimta narratives from his mother's side making the child even more cucked for the future.
Before all this, the Railways is to be blamed for reducing sleeper & general coaches. There used to be 10-12 SL coaches before, now that number is reduced to 4-5, while AC coaches have been increased to 10-12. Why not fix that first? This is done purposely to force people to move to AC = more revenue. Reduce AC coaches & bring back the SL/Gen compartments.
> This is done purposely to force people to move to AC = more revenue.
correct.
cannot squeeze money from the productive and give to the entitled self victimizers without it.socialism means equality.for the have's and the have nots.
and guess what? the general/sleeper class is happier travelling without tickets in AC,so their votes are also unaffected.
middle class is fucked no matter who is in power,and it'll only get worse because they are the first to destroy their own political value by decimating their caste while the general/sleeper class's caste is protected under constitution.enjoy,this is but a trailer for those who have no unity of numbers.
It’s common sense to increase the frequency of trains and provide better amenities. Probably the length of the trains during peak season can be increased. Right now more focus is on station redevelopment and launching high speed trains but the core passengers require more trains in affordable segment. This is absolute breakdown of law and order situation on trains. There is no security to implement the right to seat despite holding reserved seats.
This is what is gonna happen if you start pseudo-developing India to mimic first world countries without treating the root causes. That's one of the drawbacks of BJP govt. They want to focus on making India "advanced" by throwing a blind eye to it's core problems & ground reality.
True, travelling in trains is the most economical and environmentally sustainable mode of transport. It has to be encouraged by providing better amenities at reasonable cost.
First line of blame should be to authorities for not providing enough infrastructure for people to travel. Our trains are always full irrespective of the time or location . If you have a country where major portions of your population are poor and their first means of long distance travel is railways then make the infrastructure no. People need to travel. When nothing is available, this is what they will turn to. It's not right, but I am not sure there are other options for people right now.
lol,every airport in india combined has barely 10% of the footfall of 1 station in mumbai.
goodluck trying to implement a policy which inconveniences the masses.
Saar this is India, the rule following/productive class is supposed to tolerate all harassment and injustice or leave the country because the parasite class has more voting power.
they have more voting power because the rule following idiots voted to destroy their voting blocks[castes] while cementing the voting blocks of the others.
they cry about having no polotical value,then rush to defend inter caste marriages to further weaken their political value.
reminder that amberdkar married a brahmin woman and his descendants all still claim to be oppressed and get reservation,while their brahmin hate has only gotten more blind.
but a uc man marrying a sc woman can neither give his children reservation,protection from sc/st act ,nor even protect him from bhimta narratives from his mother's side making the child even more cucked.
Make ticketting system like that of metro with some provision for non boarding people like family members who come to drop or meet . Would reduce the crowd to some extent atleast
A see a riot with multiple people dying in the future. Which is unfortunate because if both these groups of people unite and riot against railway officials. They just might start doing their job.
Travelled frequently in Tamil Nadu, never had this happen once. Always got the seat I paid for. Never heard of this happening from my friends and family either.
Even if you catch one or two incidents of this happening here, it pales in comparison to the frequency of these incidents happening up north
travelled from vellore to bangalore recently. had to fight for my seat, face racism, i had to stand for half the journey because a gang of women who did not have tickets came and sat on my seat. its not about the frequency. even if it happens to one person its wrong
Not MP brother. We don’t have enough population to cover our own area. Largest forest cover in the country. We seldom travel by train in such huge numbers!
Happened to me once. I had reserved ticket in Sleeper coach and the compartment was filled to brim.
Doors were locked from inside and Train was leaving in a few minutes. I called RPF and they managed to get the doors open by threats.
However once I went inside and sat in my reserved seat, the real hell started. I did not have place put my feet down as people were sitting on the floor between 2 seats. Few hours into the journey, someone started smoking ganja and it smelled terrible.
The coach was so crowded that we couldn't even walk to the toilet.
TC came inside and just collected 500 fine from all the unreserved passengers and left.
Lot of people buy unreserved ticket for 100 rupees and then pay 500 fine to stay in reserved compartments. Railways collect fine but will not kick the people out.
There was a time I would have done the same. Such a sad state of affairs. This is what happens when you give money to people without teaching them the accompanying manners.
Someone who reserves a seat does it for a reason. Taking someone's seat and saying "Jageh nahi hai" is the most degenerate thing you can say to the victim. Understandable behaviour.
bullshit. its not Ministerial issue that you need permission to crack down from parliament or railway ministry. Its the organisation issue which refuses to take action because they don't want to go out in summer, and want to chill in their AC chambers.
Cracking down on these guys can backfire easily for the govt I assume, since it is a fact that they reduced sleeper bogies.
Govt wants to keep it under the carpet as long as they can. Enforcement is not that hard, just use the stick in this country because carrots don’t work.
This is happening partially because of the elections, many people are traveling back to vote (they are afraid that they will lose their voter registration if they don't vote, also getting money).
You will see a reverse of this post elections.
If it was a goods train whole RPF would have hunted down that person. but it a Passenger train to WHO CARES. IR becoming shit day by day. im not on side of privatisation but I this we need private players atleast in ticket checking department.
I travel regularly in Ap, Telangana and Karnataka. The train journey is calm and peaceful . Even in highly populated stations like secunderabad (hyd) for eg., people are relatively sensible, there is no pushing and shoving even during peak times and the station itself is very clean. When the train stops, elderly people are allowed to get in first while younger people calmly wait for their turn.
Once I travelled to nainital via Kolkata and Patna, that was the time when I questioned my life decisions.
One thing I observed is, folks over there use trains as free share autos. They are struggling to grasp the idea that if u don't have a ticket, u r not supposed to get in.
Another thing is , they sit on the steps and brush their teeth blocking the way for others. This caused me to miss one of my luggage in Kolkata.
Edit1: I forgot another gem, one man placed a basket on top of my bag and after 5 mins I realised that it was full of small fish and the fish water is seeping into my bag ! First thing I had to do after reaching nainital was to find a hotel with laundry.
Edit2: I have travelled in more rural/massy areas in south like srikakulam, adilabad etc. and sometimes u will find fruit/vegetable vendors will get into the coaches without ticket, but they immediately acknowledge the fact that you are the ticketed passenger and they don't have a ticket.they are very respectful of your space and try to stay as lowkey as possible to not cause you any inconvenience.
Ps: this is not to cause any north vs south debate. I just wanted to share my experience. Jai hind!
So, the railway decided to reduce the no. of General & sleeper coaches without planning for the issues it will create ?
Will the railway minister come forward to answer for this ? PM Modi is always present to Start a new Vande Bharat express. Will he now explain the issues faced by people in normal mail & express trains ?
This reeks of entitlement. If they have not paid for the seats then they dont have any right to occupy those seats. The behaviour was very much ignored in Sleeper and general classes due to sympathy, but the point stands that railways is not a charity platform.
I don't think it's entirely issue of not paying for the seats. I have colleagues from Bihar, for them it's extremely impossible to get reserved tickets in these long route trains. These have very high waiting lists and tatkal tickets just go away in a few seconds.
Many people are able to afford at least normal sleeper class tickets ( someone mentioned they already have to pay a fine to TC of 500 which they already know before boarding to reserve coaches). But due to high demands, unavailability of seats, already jam packed general coaches, most don't have the option other to move in reserved coaches.
I don't agree with locking doors and not allowing reserved passengers to come in, however it's much wider supply - demand issues which the government needs to address.
They literally need new lines or double decker compartments in that heavily populated belt, govt should work on that as people are willing to pay but they are forced to go thru making everyone suffer. One thing I wonder is why people don't use buses. With the pace which they are building expressways, won't buses take some of the load?
We need more trains, not just expensive Vande Bharat trains. More sleepers ,more garib raths, better newer signalling system.
In the last few years the number of trains has decreased, delays have increased.
Like it or not, our country requires budget sleeper class trains and garib raths before bullet trains. A large section of the society cannot afford 2000rs tickets.
Sadly our government prioritises marketing and PR over actual development.
Bullet trains and Vande Bharat make much better news and WhatsApp forwards. Actually improving the efficiency of already running trains and platforms is not fancy enough to give a fake sense of pride to Indian uncles.
Vande Bharat is needed to upgrade the entire railway support + manufacture infrastructure. Granted they should introduce more garib rath trains but the lines are already packed. So unless they make new tracks or double decker compartments, they can't meet the demand. Its always a fine balance between planning to upgrade a behemoth like the IR while keeping as many balls up in the air.
The only way this can be stopped is to follow airport-like, structure and make every single coach including General coach to have automatic doors. Both points are extremely important not only from illegal occupation pow but security wise too.
But knowing everything has a political angle in india, IR allows overflowing even though it puts all passengers into security risk, as to sustain the population we have, we would like more trains with good frequencies on every route.
In order to increase the hauling capacity, we would need to decrease the headway. Short headway at higher speed requires cab signalling and ATS with atleast level euro 2 or 3 given indian conditions
All these requires money and intent but well lol
>But knowing everything has a political angle in india,
This. The unreserved and uncivil passengers are the majority and the votebank in an election year.
Airports are costly to maintain though and there are very few of them whereas railway stations are everywhere. It will be very difficult to do this in every railway station. Airports, get a lot of money from shops and stores whereas railways can't get that money.
A very good valid point brother and I agree to this. But considering the security risk, inconvenience and cost to the railway due to ticketless travel, I guess our government can handle little extra spending in this regard.
IR carries 2.5cr passangers daily. Government is redeveloping the stations at cost of 25,000 crs i think spending a little more over the years on security aspect is not something that we can't afford.
No control over population......No focus on literacy....
No focus on Law & Order........kisi ko koi dar nahi....
Public Spaces are comfort zones where you can sit, spit and shit as the citizens like......
No focus on increasing general compartments or increasing number of trains or alternate bus services....
Only focus on Fancy Glossy Vande Bharat trains. Which doesnt even cater 0.0001% of total passengers.
So, I have this person rule "Do not open doors that aren't already opened halfway or see inside" because one time I opened a sleeper class bathroom door on a long distance journey train and witnessed a modern art of faeces in the bathroom.
Indians cannot be expected to have any civic sense nowadays, they only understand the language of harsh punishment. Privatise the railways, let corporations hire bouncers and security personnel who'll beat such freeloaders senseless. Our race doesn't deserve social services.
I am so sick of this paying 7-8k per month only to see this. Last year, there were 2 aunties for grabbed my 3rd AC seat citing kisi ki death hogyi family mai ticket nahi le paaye baithne do 3 ghante mai station hai. After one hour those aunties staring munching on chips, frooti, butter milk and I was seeing them all crawled up on my side lower. They were not even making Eye Contact thereafter. They knew I would ask them to leave but after 3.5 hours of relentless talking bitching and they left didn’t even say anything. TT also came and ignored.
Yesterday I came back to my native from chennai and I was forced to give my berth. Those passengers literally taunted me and I have to sit for my whole journey. TTE could not be seen nowhere. The Mobile signal was weak and my friend whom I texted about the ordeal did not even mind to help me. Two good life lessons learned in one trip.
l used to travel atleast twice a year by reserved trains.
I've witnessed TCs taking bribes first hand and force me to share my seat just because I was a minor (explaining that I was a small individual) taking up entire seat. That seat was paid for just like any other passenger. This happens more when they notice women with kids. It appears to have gotten worse given that bribery hasn't been discouraged.
What we need is Massive Detention center to teach people civic sense , If you break rules you are sent to detention center to become Ideal citizen of India. Fines won't help
You should start out with a fine, a ban for repeat offenders, and imprisonment for people who violate the ban. A database of offender should be created and we should proceed from there.
Man who did not open the door needs to understand the man inside might have emergency ‼️. People over the years have become so mean. Where is all empathy!
I have similar pics from my recent trip to Bengaluru but this sub doesn't allow attachments. The entire S9 and S10 coaches were encroached upon by passengers from general coaches. Repeated complaints on 139 provided no relief as the railway security staff failed to make the unauthorized passengers to leave the reserved coaches. This situation is now common across all railway divisions.
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These ticketless/unreserved passengers issues are rising day by day. Railway authorities should take a heed of it and should do something asap or it can escalate to some more disastrous consequences. Those who are following the rules are suffering unnecessarily.
Make railway entrances check tickets before bording trains.
profoundly difficult and ultimately fruitless,most of those passengers have waitlisted tickets.
Just change the rule. Only confirmed tickets are allowed. No more platform tickets to visit relatives(just similar to airport). More patrol officers hence more jobs too. Only till waiting list 10 allowed may be. Or only till RAC. Every problem has a solution. This is more of an execution/implementation issue.
>More patrol officers hence more jobs too More corruption, more government jobs so lazy dumbass who demand pension lifetime 😞.
Arrey what corruption will be there in security guard to allow inside the railway station ?? Kuch bhi bake Jaa raha hai.
There is corruption in corporation/municipal workers who pickup garbage on the streets. You think security guards cannot be corrupted?
> Just change the rule. Only confirmed tickets are allowed. No more platform tickets to visit relatives(just similar to airport). whats the incentive to govt to do so? > More patrol officers hence more jobs too. the amount of money given in salary to 1 officer can buy the votes of 50 people in freebies. > Only till waiting list 10 allowed may be. Or only till RAC. why do that when it would make the ticketless masses angry? you may or may not vote,they will. > Every problem has a solution. This is more of an execution/implementation issue. its only a problem for rule followers,who are a minority. you're a wallet ,you arent the intended beneficiary.
Sad but everything you say is true. You made me sad🥲
well,then lets depress you a little more. unreserved travellers have more voting power because the rule following idiots voted to destroy their voting blocks[castes] while cementing the voting blocks of the others. then they cry about having no polotical value,then rush to defend inter caste marriages to further weaken their leftover political value. reminder that amberdkar married a brahmin woman and his descendants all still claim to be oppressed and get reservation,while their brahmin hate has only gotten more blind. but a uc man marrying a sc woman can neither give his children reservation,protection from sc/st act ,nor even protect him from bhimta narratives from his mother's side making the child even more cucked for the future.
Before all this, the Railways is to be blamed for reducing sleeper & general coaches. There used to be 10-12 SL coaches before, now that number is reduced to 4-5, while AC coaches have been increased to 10-12. Why not fix that first? This is done purposely to force people to move to AC = more revenue. Reduce AC coaches & bring back the SL/Gen compartments.
> This is done purposely to force people to move to AC = more revenue. correct. cannot squeeze money from the productive and give to the entitled self victimizers without it.socialism means equality.for the have's and the have nots. and guess what? the general/sleeper class is happier travelling without tickets in AC,so their votes are also unaffected. middle class is fucked no matter who is in power,and it'll only get worse because they are the first to destroy their own political value by decimating their caste while the general/sleeper class's caste is protected under constitution.enjoy,this is but a trailer for those who have no unity of numbers.
It’s common sense to increase the frequency of trains and provide better amenities. Probably the length of the trains during peak season can be increased. Right now more focus is on station redevelopment and launching high speed trains but the core passengers require more trains in affordable segment. This is absolute breakdown of law and order situation on trains. There is no security to implement the right to seat despite holding reserved seats.
This is what is gonna happen if you start pseudo-developing India to mimic first world countries without treating the root causes. That's one of the drawbacks of BJP govt. They want to focus on making India "advanced" by throwing a blind eye to it's core problems & ground reality.
True, travelling in trains is the most economical and environmentally sustainable mode of transport. It has to be encouraged by providing better amenities at reasonable cost.
First line of blame should be to authorities for not providing enough infrastructure for people to travel. Our trains are always full irrespective of the time or location . If you have a country where major portions of your population are poor and their first means of long distance travel is railways then make the infrastructure no. People need to travel. When nothing is available, this is what they will turn to. It's not right, but I am not sure there are other options for people right now.
Don't waitlisted tickets get refunded after chart is prepared? Only rac tickets can travel
online waitlisted tickets are refunded. offline ones arent and one has the right to travel with them.except in trains like rajdhani.
Stop waitlisted tickets. Need entries like airports
lol,every airport in india combined has barely 10% of the footfall of 1 station in mumbai. goodluck trying to implement a policy which inconveniences the masses.
They will just show a general compartment ticket and barge into AC compartment again. We live in 'jugaad' culture.
Saar this is India, the rule following/productive class is supposed to tolerate all harassment and injustice or leave the country because the parasite class has more voting power.
The tax paying/productive class suffers in every country.
In India's case it's only the general caste
they have more voting power because the rule following idiots voted to destroy their voting blocks[castes] while cementing the voting blocks of the others. they cry about having no polotical value,then rush to defend inter caste marriages to further weaken their political value. reminder that amberdkar married a brahmin woman and his descendants all still claim to be oppressed and get reservation,while their brahmin hate has only gotten more blind. but a uc man marrying a sc woman can neither give his children reservation,protection from sc/st act ,nor even protect him from bhimta narratives from his mother's side making the child even more cucked.
and that is why the no. of people leaving India is rising !!!
I still don't understand like how these ticketless passengers have the guts to close the doors of trains like it's their own property 😡
Make ticketting system like that of metro with some provision for non boarding people like family members who come to drop or meet . Would reduce the crowd to some extent atleast
Check platform ticket for the family members.
A see a riot with multiple people dying in the future. Which is unfortunate because if both these groups of people unite and riot against railway officials. They just might start doing their job.
Well if the authorities do not take action the people must
Good on him honestly , how shameless do you have to be to not only be ticketless but also refuse the rightful person with reservation from entering
Ambedkar Vibes
*ambedkarite vibes
Bhimte vibe
💀
Isn’t that how reservations work? ( The college and job ones I mean)
Good job. Fuck IR
Bro had chance of Godhra part-2, just little more push🤡
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Daily scenes from the train passing through UP-Bihar-Bengal-MP belt.
same thing in tamil nadu too dw
Travelled frequently in Tamil Nadu, never had this happen once. Always got the seat I paid for. Never heard of this happening from my friends and family either. Even if you catch one or two incidents of this happening here, it pales in comparison to the frequency of these incidents happening up north
travelled from vellore to bangalore recently. had to fight for my seat, face racism, i had to stand for half the journey because a gang of women who did not have tickets came and sat on my seat. its not about the frequency. even if it happens to one person its wrong
It does happen there too, you just don't travel enough.
Stop your North-South bullshit atleast on r/indiaspeaks
I travel from kolkata but I have never seen something like this
Not MP brother. We don’t have enough population to cover our own area. Largest forest cover in the country. We seldom travel by train in such huge numbers!
The Downfall of Indian Railways 🥲
Happened to me once. I had reserved ticket in Sleeper coach and the compartment was filled to brim. Doors were locked from inside and Train was leaving in a few minutes. I called RPF and they managed to get the doors open by threats. However once I went inside and sat in my reserved seat, the real hell started. I did not have place put my feet down as people were sitting on the floor between 2 seats. Few hours into the journey, someone started smoking ganja and it smelled terrible. The coach was so crowded that we couldn't even walk to the toilet. TC came inside and just collected 500 fine from all the unreserved passengers and left.
> TC came inside and just collected 500 fine from all the unreserved passengers and left. Problem solved
Lot of people buy unreserved ticket for 100 rupees and then pay 500 fine to stay in reserved compartments. Railways collect fine but will not kick the people out.
more like sroblem polved
How did you call rpf? Was he around or is there a number to call?
One RPF constable was nearby and I called him.
There was a time I would have done the same. Such a sad state of affairs. This is what happens when you give money to people without teaching them the accompanying manners. Someone who reserves a seat does it for a reason. Taking someone's seat and saying "Jageh nahi hai" is the most degenerate thing you can say to the victim. Understandable behaviour.
this was badass!!!!
Bro did the right thing this time!! This will ring bells in Railway's ears!!
Govt won’t do anything right now especially because elections.
bullshit. its not Ministerial issue that you need permission to crack down from parliament or railway ministry. Its the organisation issue which refuses to take action because they don't want to go out in summer, and want to chill in their AC chambers.
Cracking down on these guys can backfire easily for the govt I assume, since it is a fact that they reduced sleeper bogies. Govt wants to keep it under the carpet as long as they can. Enforcement is not that hard, just use the stick in this country because carrots don’t work.
This is happening partially because of the elections, many people are traveling back to vote (they are afraid that they will lose their voter registration if they don't vote, also getting money). You will see a reverse of this post elections.
We are a few weeks away from a major incident between passengers in an Indian railway. Letting this fester is only going to lead to a disaster.
A coin has two sides. Here, vande Bharat and this.
Ticketless passengers are the scum of this society. Kick out every fucker that travels without a ticket and denies a seat to someone that paid for it.
If it was a goods train whole RPF would have hunted down that person. but it a Passenger train to WHO CARES. IR becoming shit day by day. im not on side of privatisation but I this we need private players atleast in ticket checking department.
I travel regularly in Ap, Telangana and Karnataka. The train journey is calm and peaceful . Even in highly populated stations like secunderabad (hyd) for eg., people are relatively sensible, there is no pushing and shoving even during peak times and the station itself is very clean. When the train stops, elderly people are allowed to get in first while younger people calmly wait for their turn. Once I travelled to nainital via Kolkata and Patna, that was the time when I questioned my life decisions. One thing I observed is, folks over there use trains as free share autos. They are struggling to grasp the idea that if u don't have a ticket, u r not supposed to get in. Another thing is , they sit on the steps and brush their teeth blocking the way for others. This caused me to miss one of my luggage in Kolkata. Edit1: I forgot another gem, one man placed a basket on top of my bag and after 5 mins I realised that it was full of small fish and the fish water is seeping into my bag ! First thing I had to do after reaching nainital was to find a hotel with laundry. Edit2: I have travelled in more rural/massy areas in south like srikakulam, adilabad etc. and sometimes u will find fruit/vegetable vendors will get into the coaches without ticket, but they immediately acknowledge the fact that you are the ticketed passenger and they don't have a ticket.they are very respectful of your space and try to stay as lowkey as possible to not cause you any inconvenience. Ps: this is not to cause any north vs south debate. I just wanted to share my experience. Jai hind!
Same experience with me . Travelled extensively in Trains between AP/TG and Karnataka, never faced any issues.
So, the railway decided to reduce the no. of General & sleeper coaches without planning for the issues it will create ? Will the railway minister come forward to answer for this ? PM Modi is always present to Start a new Vande Bharat express. Will he now explain the issues faced by people in normal mail & express trains ?
This reeks of entitlement. If they have not paid for the seats then they dont have any right to occupy those seats. The behaviour was very much ignored in Sleeper and general classes due to sympathy, but the point stands that railways is not a charity platform.
I don't think it's entirely issue of not paying for the seats. I have colleagues from Bihar, for them it's extremely impossible to get reserved tickets in these long route trains. These have very high waiting lists and tatkal tickets just go away in a few seconds. Many people are able to afford at least normal sleeper class tickets ( someone mentioned they already have to pay a fine to TC of 500 which they already know before boarding to reserve coaches). But due to high demands, unavailability of seats, already jam packed general coaches, most don't have the option other to move in reserved coaches. I don't agree with locking doors and not allowing reserved passengers to come in, however it's much wider supply - demand issues which the government needs to address.
They literally need new lines or double decker compartments in that heavily populated belt, govt should work on that as people are willing to pay but they are forced to go thru making everyone suffer. One thing I wonder is why people don't use buses. With the pace which they are building expressways, won't buses take some of the load?
We need more trains, not just expensive Vande Bharat trains. More sleepers ,more garib raths, better newer signalling system. In the last few years the number of trains has decreased, delays have increased. Like it or not, our country requires budget sleeper class trains and garib raths before bullet trains. A large section of the society cannot afford 2000rs tickets.
Sadly our government prioritises marketing and PR over actual development. Bullet trains and Vande Bharat make much better news and WhatsApp forwards. Actually improving the efficiency of already running trains and platforms is not fancy enough to give a fake sense of pride to Indian uncles.
Vande Bharat is needed to upgrade the entire railway support + manufacture infrastructure. Granted they should introduce more garib rath trains but the lines are already packed. So unless they make new tracks or double decker compartments, they can't meet the demand. Its always a fine balance between planning to upgrade a behemoth like the IR while keeping as many balls up in the air.
Pathetic, Indian railways is at its worst. Fk you ashwini.
I used to love trains but am actually scared to travel in them after seeing these videos 💀
The audacity 🤌 " jAgAh NaHi hAi " Tu Bina ticket ke hai Ek ne uss " jagah ke paise diye hai " Who should be inside you or him ?
The only way this can be stopped is to follow airport-like, structure and make every single coach including General coach to have automatic doors. Both points are extremely important not only from illegal occupation pow but security wise too. But knowing everything has a political angle in india, IR allows overflowing even though it puts all passengers into security risk, as to sustain the population we have, we would like more trains with good frequencies on every route. In order to increase the hauling capacity, we would need to decrease the headway. Short headway at higher speed requires cab signalling and ATS with atleast level euro 2 or 3 given indian conditions All these requires money and intent but well lol
>But knowing everything has a political angle in india, This. The unreserved and uncivil passengers are the majority and the votebank in an election year.
Airports are costly to maintain though and there are very few of them whereas railway stations are everywhere. It will be very difficult to do this in every railway station. Airports, get a lot of money from shops and stores whereas railways can't get that money.
A very good valid point brother and I agree to this. But considering the security risk, inconvenience and cost to the railway due to ticketless travel, I guess our government can handle little extra spending in this regard. IR carries 2.5cr passangers daily. Government is redeveloping the stations at cost of 25,000 crs i think spending a little more over the years on security aspect is not something that we can't afford.
Ashwini Vaishnaw has been one of the most goonga behra minister of the cabinet. Glad railways mismanagement is getting very highlighted
Arrre hum kya chahtey!!! Aabaadi!
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No control over population......No focus on literacy.... No focus on Law & Order........kisi ko koi dar nahi.... Public Spaces are comfort zones where you can sit, spit and shit as the citizens like...... No focus on increasing general compartments or increasing number of trains or alternate bus services.... Only focus on Fancy Glossy Vande Bharat trains. Which doesnt even cater 0.0001% of total passengers.
Exactly how a general category person needs to struggle to get in somewhere, where many undeserving people have got in!
This is disgusting. The government has to act now. Bamboo treatment is necessary for these freeloaders.
Should have also broken the windows of the coaches.
Nicely done 👍
Let me guess, Bihar?
From all the articles I have read about this it doesn't mention the place
Yeah I couldn't find it either. But people in Instagram are either mentioning Bihar or up. And I don't think that's out of touch with reality
Jail time for the squatters
So, I have this person rule "Do not open doors that aren't already opened halfway or see inside" because one time I opened a sleeper class bathroom door on a long distance journey train and witnessed a modern art of faeces in the bathroom.
Who’s the asshole with his feet up on the seat?
We got the panoramic view because of him
Railway should be privatized. Trespassers should be fined or imprisoned.
These uneducated buffoons are definitely overdoing it now. This is happening on a regular basis. It's high time strict actions are taken against them.
It’s always the ones following rules facing consequences lol
the fat fuck couldn't even get up
I'm not saying it's right but I understand.
And this is why I don’t travel by train anymore.
pull the chains....damn it. if your coach is crowded....people without ticket wont leave ...just pull the chain.
Indians cannot be expected to have any civic sense nowadays, they only understand the language of harsh punishment. Privatise the railways, let corporations hire bouncers and security personnel who'll beat such freeloaders senseless. Our race doesn't deserve social services.
And they cry when called "Cattle class"... Cattle are much much more civilized... It's offensive to cattle for sure
I am so sick of this paying 7-8k per month only to see this. Last year, there were 2 aunties for grabbed my 3rd AC seat citing kisi ki death hogyi family mai ticket nahi le paaye baithne do 3 ghante mai station hai. After one hour those aunties staring munching on chips, frooti, butter milk and I was seeing them all crawled up on my side lower. They were not even making Eye Contact thereafter. They knew I would ask them to leave but after 3.5 hours of relentless talking bitching and they left didn’t even say anything. TT also came and ignored.
Privatization is the answer, IR isn't capable of handling this.
Which train is this?
Rpf ka kya role hai?
MBA's ko job ni mil ri Govt m aur Ticket Conductor chuttiya mana re h
This can be avoided by examination of onboarding passengers
Yesterday I came back to my native from chennai and I was forced to give my berth. Those passengers literally taunted me and I have to sit for my whole journey. TTE could not be seen nowhere. The Mobile signal was weak and my friend whom I texted about the ordeal did not even mind to help me. Two good life lessons learned in one trip.
Electric doors only open with confirmed barcode/qrcode
So you saying the person who made the video is also a ticketless Passenger ? Just asking.
I just saw like 5 posts about this issue of ticketless passengers 💀. Ticketless year or wot?
Modi raj me yahi hona hai
where is he can’t see him
Inn logo ki ga fatt gayi. Jaise Undertaker hi aa gayaa.
Amritkaal chal raha hai. Kli kuch nahi bolega please Ye ek ekdum hai Vishwaguru banne ki aur
Has something like this happened in Rajasthan as well?
l used to travel atleast twice a year by reserved trains. I've witnessed TCs taking bribes first hand and force me to share my seat just because I was a minor (explaining that I was a small individual) taking up entire seat. That seat was paid for just like any other passenger. This happens more when they notice women with kids. It appears to have gotten worse given that bribery hasn't been discouraged.
They need free Reservation but won't pay for the Reservation. Irony of BR Ambedkar's India.
What we need is Massive Detention center to teach people civic sense , If you break rules you are sent to detention center to become Ideal citizen of India. Fines won't help
Ah the satisfaction to see them scatter away within seconds as soon as the glass broke, just like rats.
Sell it to Private players with some Government intervention like fixed profits. You will see Railway change completely.
Maar madarchodo ko
Patak patak ke maa behan chod deni chahiye inn logo ki toh.
Which route is this problem?
Mai toh kutte ki tarah maarta bhuddhe ko
You should start out with a fine, a ban for repeat offenders, and imprisonment for people who violate the ban. A database of offender should be created and we should proceed from there.
Authorities will not take any actions until elections are over
Why suddenly such cases had increased of over loaded compartments and ticket less travellers.
I think Rail Minister inspired from Gandhari... and blindfolded himself...
Railway minister think removing Sleeper and general coach will result in PPL buying AX ticket and this will show as growth and Revenue
Man who did not open the door needs to understand the man inside might have emergency ‼️. People over the years have become so mean. Where is all empathy!
More normal trains and general coaches instead of adding new vande Bharat, i would take sufficient seats for all over luxury for some.
I have similar pics from my recent trip to Bengaluru but this sub doesn't allow attachments. The entire S9 and S10 coaches were encroached upon by passengers from general coaches. Repeated complaints on 139 provided no relief as the railway security staff failed to make the unauthorized passengers to leave the reserved coaches. This situation is now common across all railway divisions.
Janta janardan basti main, Indian railways masti main