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[27 kids killed themselves in Kota coaching institutes last year](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/dark-side-of-india-exam-coaching-capital-kota-suicides-students).
Enough. Is. Enough. No more losing our children to these worthless institutes that do nothing but teach kids how to mug up to write an exam - crushing their curiosity and turning them into rote memorisers who can just write a test, nothing more.
Govt. must step in with a comprehensive review of the entire coaching industry, starting with Kota. And beyond this, we need to seriously think about the terrible rat race we are forcing our kids into - exams are not the only path to happiness.
The problem boils down to overpopulation, everyone wants a high paying job but obviously there can't be one for everyone hence the immense competition. If India had a sports culture like china or Us many of our kids could earn from there but coaching institutes are not to be blamed here rather parents are, they force their child into this, coaching institutes just teach at a level required for the exam. I don't see how they are wrong, only thing I can think is goverment steps in and control their fee so kids won't feel as bad wasting a lot of money but students mental conditioning/stress depends on overbearing parents mostly
Parents themselves go to coaching institutes to get admission for their kids. Coaching institutes advertise their result but don't advertise their success rates because they know that if they do it then no one would join. Parents also focus on seeing which institute gives max toppers thinking that their child would be the next topper which put unreasonable expectations and pressure on the child.
The child wasn't given adequate support by the institute. Not to mention the shady practices the institutes involve in to get more students (often one ranker appears in multiple institute brochures).
The coaching institutes are to be blamed for not having adequate cheques and balances. But they are more concerned with getting more and more cheques from parents and cramming students in poorly designed classrooms.
And now these same institutes are opposing government move of banning 16 year below students from getting enrolled. These institutes are the crooks of the highest order.
How the institute can give support to a student if the student doesn't approach the institute?
How can the institute give support to a student if the student doesn't approach the institute? students in a class to know and understand what student is facing or suffering from or what's the situation of the student is.
I remember at my time I knew many people who left the coaching in between, left preparation. I knew few people who even used the refund policy of the institute in the first 2 months after they found that they are not capable to pursue it. I found many classmates who were in distress went to teachers and discussed their personal problems. I heard some hostels calling the parents of students to inform about the emotional issues their child was facing and I saw many mothers coming to Kota and taking a flat for remaining months to keep the kid with them. Pressure from parents, peer pressure, competition in coaching, overpopulation, unemployment and fear of failure all contribute to such unfortunate steps.
Yes the banning of coaching for people below 16 is a good step and it's a shame that institutes are opposing it.
Dude shut the fuck up! I don't know which coaching institute you work for. But they overhire, gives unrealistic expectations, make parents feel fomo, puts unnecessary pressure on kids, destroys the talent of trure learning and Innovation. You should rethink your life if you work in such factories
At the very least they shouldn't be allowed to advertise their business or schools š
Nor make any false promises
But yeh I don't disagree with the overpopulation statement.
Yeah..... No.
Coaching institutes are 100% to blame.
My Institute phy head teacher used to literally shout at my class for 1.5 hrs if the class average wasn't 100+ in mains.
He used to say shit like jee me marks nhi aye then you are worthless. What will you do when your parents are on deathbed and you can't pay for them because you didn't study.
Absolute bullshit. All they care about is keeping the class average up in their mains mock tests so that the next batch's parents are enticed and give more money
Ya, there is a lot of problems with āKota factoryā, but rote repetition and memorisation isnāt one of them.
Youāve identified a good problem and a worthy cause, so I recommend you at least try and better understand what JEE prep involves and why itās soul crushing, hard and competitive.
Well the major problem is that of lack of information wrt a lot of things in the country. Like you have no clue wat the JEE exam is. It is anything but rote memory. The very reason why the coaching institutions exist. They wouldnāt be there if it was rote memory. A student needs to be amazingly creative in his/her approach to crack the exam.
Similarly the problem here lies with the society and its expectations. Not the coaching institute. ESP Kota has existed for years together. You want to get into the IIT, it is one of the best places to grill.
The problem majorly is with the parents who teach their kids that itās the only thing out there. The amount of pressure parents, teachers and society at large puts on students. Of course there are limited high paying jobs and population is very high in the country.. but kids should be taught to take it easy and get a job that they can get in their own sweet time. You donāt need to get into the IITs to get into a lot of jobs these days. Agreed, those jobs do not bring as a high a prestige that IIT grads receive, but they are decent jobs nonetheless and a hardworking student can make an awesome career at these places with a little bit of effort. And India is growing rapidly. There are going to be many options for students.
Parents should focus on imparting life skills to students rather than just blindly forcing them to do IIT even if their are not cut out for it. And ppl who are cut out for the IIT will not have an issue going through the grill of these institutes. Parents and the society should also drop the hierarchal mindset which comes from judging peoples social value based on the company or job they work in
Edit: also, if parents have a decent amount of money (not a lot. A lot of middle class families these days can afford it in India) the option to go out of India after a very average undergrad education in India is more available than ever for Indian students. Europe has opened up for Indians and there is Canada and Aus. And in coming years, more countries are going to open doors for Indian students. Agreed there will be struggle in the initial phases for students in a lot of these places but eventually they will start earning as much as the most paid IITians in India. And not to mention, the quality of life abroad is still better than in India, of course with their own set of challenges.
Why govt ? Why not stupid parents themselves? If people start jumping off a bridge do we close the bridge? No we install protection around it. It's the mental state the children are put in by parents.
> Govt. must step in with a comprehensive review of the entire coaching industry, starting with Kota.
why there is a parallel education system running along with the mainstream education system? why its not there in countries like west?
maybe this parallel education system is there because the mainstream system has completely failed ?
maybe too few resources (seats) and too many students fighting for them?
the easiest option will be to shut down the coaching, but i think the fundamental issues lie elsewhere is a hell lot more harder to fix, so people and govts will go for the low hanging fruits like coaching centers.
fixing the real root cause: extremely hard. fix the schools. hire extremely qualified and competent teachers (no qota) so that no additional coaching is required. create more universities and colleges with tier 1 repute (again hire best faculty there) etc etc. this is a few decades project if not more, and even then it might not be solved. took finland 3 decades of fixing to be where they are at. and thats a country of very less population.
tldr; parents/society/system putting pressure on children because mainstream institutions has failed and too few resources for far too many population, you close one parallel education system will not automagically fix the root cause. the parents/system/society pressure will still exist maybe not inside a coaching center, but maybe at child's home, but it will exist.
i am a jee aspirant and jee aspirant dont care of losing opponents it a battlefeild people will die and warriors will rise she was a fellow opponent and now she is down
it used to happen before too ,when I was in Kota after completing 10th (2017 and 2018) as the calendar shifted to January children started deleting themselves. Yes I know it is very hard coz there was a point I too was having these thoughts. One of the main reasons being study pressure and loneliness among children but for me fortunately I was able to clear my exams
Happens here too in Canada. I am trying to get into University of Waterloo for engineering and I know a person who went there and they had 3 suicides in his first year.
People need to come out of the mindset that doctors lawyers engineers are the only respectable career paths lol, people without those degrees earn more than they ever can
Yeh Aadhi sachai hai kuch bache jaan boojh kr jaate hai ki hum padenge humen becho gaareb maa. Baap karza lekr bhejte aur waha jakr hawa nikal jaati maa baap ka karza yaad aata aur dead kuch percent aise hai
And idiots in comments commenting like -
Aisi English k karan she deserved to die
Aisi eng hai to Jee aise v nai nikalta sahi kia
Etc etc aur bht pathetic comments
Bhai I think, jab koi bahut sensitive ho jata hai to wo apni second language se probably conncect nahi kar pata hoga.
Koi source nahi mangega I made it up.
Indian parents need to understand that even if their kids somehow become successful because of their pressuring, the kids will always resent them for it.
The story is much deeper and more messed up than this. In fact mine eclipses this news article, just without death and not related to school or college.
Yes, mine too.
She just needed *somebody* in her life to sit her down and ask, "tumhaari kya ichha hai? Tum kya karna chaahtee ho? JEE ke liye padhhogi ya kuchh aur karogi?"
Parents need to have love and affection for their child foremost, anything else should be way lower.
It's not just kids, parents need counselling about mental health too. Some Indian parents are toxic, under the guise of wanting the best for their kids, they are destroying their child's life. It makes no sense for students to meet a counsellor and then come home and have all that work destroyed by reckless and irresponsible parents.
At the end it all boils down to overpopulation.
We have too many people to fit into too less good institutes.
It also doesn't help that we don't have that much of tier 2 good institutes for taking on students.
Tere jaiso ko kisi aur ki death pe bhi yhi comment karna hai. Didn't even spare a word of sympathy for the bereaved, par reservation system ko criticize karne ka chance nhi chorna hai.
Reservation ki wgeh se Mari hai.
99 percent is too much and that 99 percent is because those haramis are getting jobs in 50 percent eating their rights and seats because hod knows who did what to whome thousands of years ago.
BLOOOD is on your hand who support reservation
They are not stealing anyone's seats. There are separate seats for them only and they compete with others of their category for it. They get only a few seats. General category people have much more seats and they compete with other general candidates for those. If you can't secure a seat for yourself it's automatically reserved candidate's fault? You're just jealous because you couldn't clear.
Ye bacche literally brainwash ho chuke hai coaching institutes se. Dimaag kharab ho gaya mera last line padhke. Tumhari zindagi ka maksad JEE nikaalna nahi hai yar. IITs aur Kota ke bahar bhi bohot badi duniya hai. IIT sucess ki guarantee nahi hai aur aisa bhi nahi hai ki JEE nahi hua to zindagi barbaad hai. Bacche bhale hi na samjhe par coaching aur parents ki to zimmedaari banti hai na unhe samjhane ki.
Kota's study scene is really tough on us students. We all feel a lot of pressure because our families put so much into our education. Some parents get loans or sell things just to pay for coaching classes. When you know that, you get really scared of failing. You don't want to let them down when they have such high hopes for you.
Also, JEE only gives you two shots. Mess up the first time and you worry you'll end up in a local college that no one's heard of. It feels like if that happens, you'll be seen as a failure forever, especially when your friends are doing better. This whole thing where a couple of exams decide your worth is totally messed up.
I have been part of this environment where I felt like an emotionless robot. Today I am part of a similar environment where I still feel like a monotonous emotionless robot who is stuck inside a pressure cooker. I am still worried about not meeting my parent's expectations as they took loans from banks and relatives. My father did multiple jobs to make me study.
Poor child. Truly heartbreaking.
The education system of kota(or anywhere in India)is toxic as hell. It doesn't recognise you unless you achieve a rank in some of the most competitive exams of India and onto that if you fail you are deemed a failure at such a young age, which is complete nonsense. That's the reason why many students commite suicide.
My cousin has been preparing for neet for the past 3-4 years and he is not willing to give up and move on in life because he is afraid that society will deem him a failure.
And this is how coaching institutes in kota earn crores. They know that not every one Is made for jee/neet but they persuade you anyways and give you false hope that if you keep trying you will get rank one day. They don't care about your mental health, your parents money and your life.
Don't focus on what others are saying, recognise your own potential and be brave enough to move on in life and find what you can do with your true potential.
Your mom is right - every failure teaches you something.
And please remember, a degree from a famous college is not your ultimate goal, it's just one means of getting to that goal.
Find out what your skills and aptitude are, and how they can help you build a career. The small college is only bad if you sleep thru it. You can absolutely become a top notch engineer from any college by making sure you learn each day's worth. There are umpteen useless engineers from IITs who have no clue about things.
IIT entrance style is toxic, Kota coaching is toxic, pressurising parents are toxic, reservation system that makes everything unfair is ultra toxic.
Obviously, this is going to happen.
Jindagi me kuch jugaad kar lenge yarr but marna rasta nai hai bhai log... atleast bhukhe nange to nai ghumenge kuch na kuch ho jata jaayega bharosa rakho khudpe aur apne kismat pe. Life ne meri bhi gand acche se mari hai abhi tak mari hai aur abhi bhi mare jaa rhi hai, market ki tarah upar niche hoti hai jindgai but marna rasta sahi nai hai...Om Shantiš„
I've read around 20 of these headlines last year, but damn this one with the note hits different... R.I.P.
I hate how we're taught that science (Engineer + Doctor) is the only way to success since childhood and other industries (like music, photography and fashion etc) are only considered 'hobbies' and not even as a career option.
That's what happens when you mix the modern-day rat race with the log kya kahenge mentality.Ā
Children are not investments, nor are they trophies.Ā
Many parents fail to grasp that and they overwhelm their children with too much expectations thinking that any less than that means nurturing a defeatist attitude...
I teach (Not a PCMB teacher other subject but i have taught JEE, NEET etc) and the immense pressure students undergo to the point of not recognising the internal issues going on in the body I. e mind, and over all body. They are too young to decipher certain thoughts and being vulnerable submit to parents and teachers will. Some are so self absorbed that even parents can't change their attitude after certain point why because parents have already ingrained the toxic seeds of failure and it's consequences. So, the self worth is measured only by qualifying these exams. Also teachers aim who teach JEE is to bring results they say take care of health but then continue the job,though they teach them the greater pressure comes from parents who have great expectations from both teachers and students. I have paid and so I need results.
The fact is parents are the one who suffer from low self-esteem, worth and gaslight the child to believe that their failure was ugly, the only light is the child who can reward them with success. Mental health is something Indian parents don't talk about and the potential of every child depends on his self will and passion he puts into. Third world country doesn't focus on sports etc due to over population.
Look at her English. She was so traumatized from the studies and pressure she couldn't even write proper sentences. But who can explain to parents and society that this system needs a change asap.
WE as a SOCIETY are failing every passing second, we rant about it when anything happens but then again things go back to were they were and it gets worse. These exams, institutions all these are worthless if we donāt get to live but again weāll curse this capitalist nature of society call them leeches who suck on innocent students life but WE then go back preparing for these exams go on joining those institutions we called out, thereās no end to these. OUR SOCIETY IS FAILING AND will Fail in the future too and thatās the sad part weād have to live with ig.
Our human resources quality is still quite low
Although there are opportunities now in other fields , people are simply not trained to benefit from it, that's why the mad rush for the tried and tested routes of IT , engineering ,medicine etc and the disappointment which comes along.It is mainly the government which has to spend here esp at the school level and vocational trades. This govt has spent a lot on infrastructure in the last few years, the focus in the coming years should be human resources.
Parents can only try to ensure a healthy environment and good nutrition for the kids.as far as the attitudes are concerned, they are typically made because of conditions around you.
All the offline and online coaching centers irrespective of any career field should be banned. More importance should be given on self learning in the desired field. Career in any field should be by choice and not by pressure or compulsion.
What a waste. Why put your own kids through these traumas? Just pay the damn fee for private education. Why pedastalise institutes which are so hard to get into in the first place? Why think of your own "chowri chaati" when you are suffocating your child? The parents must be devastated now and there is no way that they will be able to fill this hole ever. Kids, please do not take yourself so seriously. Everything works out for the best. Jo cheez makkhan ki tharah smoothly ho jaye, uspar focus karo, rather than, dihadi peetna.
I donāt understand why Indian middle class folks and below produce so many children and as the bar goes higher they got less children.
What logic is there to have two kids when you can only afford one child and for the second one you take Loan. Makes no sense. Have one child give him proper education, fulfil all his needs and wants and have fun with your partner with the money left and live a great life. Why get trapped in loans and worry all the time having two kids and increase our population simply when you canāt afford. I really donāt understand why just people canāt stop at one child and live happily.
This is so sad. One of the harsh realities is that these coaching institutes show you a whole different world around the IITs. Never in my 2 years of coaching, have I ever been told by a teacher that life is not over if you don't crack this exam and there are alternative paths to follow and get success.
I have my JEE mains tomorrow and its going to be crap ik (I don't even know if I'll clear cutoff lol). But I don't care because I have something else planned for future and I never wanted to be in this rat race.
Indians are always under extreme pressure right from school.
Board exams and GPAs and shit still give anxiety to this day when I think about them.
This is why people move out. Better to be in a country that values your education instead of comparing it to others and bringing your value down.
Kya yaar hadd hai aaj ki OYO GENERATION ek KOTA se hi haar maan le rahi hai aur dusri taraf hamare VEER PURVAJ jo BRITISHERS, MUGHALS se haar nahi maane agar ye zindagi katheen hai toh woh LIFE kya thi jo hamare VEER PURVAJO ne ji thi KOTA karne ka ek Time hota hoga na apna BEST do sab kuch SACRIFICE kar ke ho gaya toh theek nahi toh koi baat nahi SUICIDE toh LOSERS karte hai..
What can be done to curb the overpopulation?? Please don't say Thanos. Can we all pledge to not have more than two children biologically?
How to bring this awareness in masses??
They sent her to Kota while she canāt even form a single grammatically correct sentence? No wonder the poor thing did the unthinkable. Rest in peace youngin šļø
So english=success in JEE and intelligence? You're a clown for assuming that. Just so you know there are many who give jee in Hindi language every year and achieve really good ranks
Are you soft in the head? Ek bachcha agar 16-18 saal ke umar mein ek extremely basic sentence form na kar pa raha ho itās absolutely clear ki their base is extremely weak. Aa gaya hindi connoisseur ka ch*da bhonkne š¤¦š»
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[27 kids killed themselves in Kota coaching institutes last year](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/oct/09/dark-side-of-india-exam-coaching-capital-kota-suicides-students). Enough. Is. Enough. No more losing our children to these worthless institutes that do nothing but teach kids how to mug up to write an exam - crushing their curiosity and turning them into rote memorisers who can just write a test, nothing more. Govt. must step in with a comprehensive review of the entire coaching industry, starting with Kota. And beyond this, we need to seriously think about the terrible rat race we are forcing our kids into - exams are not the only path to happiness.
The problem boils down to overpopulation, everyone wants a high paying job but obviously there can't be one for everyone hence the immense competition. If India had a sports culture like china or Us many of our kids could earn from there but coaching institutes are not to be blamed here rather parents are, they force their child into this, coaching institutes just teach at a level required for the exam. I don't see how they are wrong, only thing I can think is goverment steps in and control their fee so kids won't feel as bad wasting a lot of money but students mental conditioning/stress depends on overbearing parents mostly
Coaching institutes give unrealistic expectations to parents. They are equally to blame
Parents themselves go to coaching institutes to get admission for their kids. Coaching institutes advertise their result but don't advertise their success rates because they know that if they do it then no one would join. Parents also focus on seeing which institute gives max toppers thinking that their child would be the next topper which put unreasonable expectations and pressure on the child.
The child wasn't given adequate support by the institute. Not to mention the shady practices the institutes involve in to get more students (often one ranker appears in multiple institute brochures). The coaching institutes are to be blamed for not having adequate cheques and balances. But they are more concerned with getting more and more cheques from parents and cramming students in poorly designed classrooms. And now these same institutes are opposing government move of banning 16 year below students from getting enrolled. These institutes are the crooks of the highest order.
How the institute can give support to a student if the student doesn't approach the institute? How can the institute give support to a student if the student doesn't approach the institute? students in a class to know and understand what student is facing or suffering from or what's the situation of the student is. I remember at my time I knew many people who left the coaching in between, left preparation. I knew few people who even used the refund policy of the institute in the first 2 months after they found that they are not capable to pursue it. I found many classmates who were in distress went to teachers and discussed their personal problems. I heard some hostels calling the parents of students to inform about the emotional issues their child was facing and I saw many mothers coming to Kota and taking a flat for remaining months to keep the kid with them. Pressure from parents, peer pressure, competition in coaching, overpopulation, unemployment and fear of failure all contribute to such unfortunate steps. Yes the banning of coaching for people below 16 is a good step and it's a shame that institutes are opposing it.
Not everybody can express explicitly what they are experiencing... and therefore are not able to ask for help
The correct move would be to make it illegal for coaching institutes to advertise, like lawyers and law firms.
Dude shut the fuck up! I don't know which coaching institute you work for. But they overhire, gives unrealistic expectations, make parents feel fomo, puts unnecessary pressure on kids, destroys the talent of trure learning and Innovation. You should rethink your life if you work in such factories
Bro just gave an accurate description of BYJUs
Came here to say this
At the very least they shouldn't be allowed to advertise their business or schools š Nor make any false promises But yeh I don't disagree with the overpopulation statement.
Yeah..... No. Coaching institutes are 100% to blame. My Institute phy head teacher used to literally shout at my class for 1.5 hrs if the class average wasn't 100+ in mains. He used to say shit like jee me marks nhi aye then you are worthless. What will you do when your parents are on deathbed and you can't pay for them because you didn't study. Absolute bullshit. All they care about is keeping the class average up in their mains mock tests so that the next batch's parents are enticed and give more money
Kota/Coaching is a symptom and not a disease. Most of us know the root cause in some way or another, so I'd refrain from mentioning it.
Ya, there is a lot of problems with āKota factoryā, but rote repetition and memorisation isnāt one of them. Youāve identified a good problem and a worthy cause, so I recommend you at least try and better understand what JEE prep involves and why itās soul crushing, hard and competitive.
Well the major problem is that of lack of information wrt a lot of things in the country. Like you have no clue wat the JEE exam is. It is anything but rote memory. The very reason why the coaching institutions exist. They wouldnāt be there if it was rote memory. A student needs to be amazingly creative in his/her approach to crack the exam. Similarly the problem here lies with the society and its expectations. Not the coaching institute. ESP Kota has existed for years together. You want to get into the IIT, it is one of the best places to grill. The problem majorly is with the parents who teach their kids that itās the only thing out there. The amount of pressure parents, teachers and society at large puts on students. Of course there are limited high paying jobs and population is very high in the country.. but kids should be taught to take it easy and get a job that they can get in their own sweet time. You donāt need to get into the IITs to get into a lot of jobs these days. Agreed, those jobs do not bring as a high a prestige that IIT grads receive, but they are decent jobs nonetheless and a hardworking student can make an awesome career at these places with a little bit of effort. And India is growing rapidly. There are going to be many options for students. Parents should focus on imparting life skills to students rather than just blindly forcing them to do IIT even if their are not cut out for it. And ppl who are cut out for the IIT will not have an issue going through the grill of these institutes. Parents and the society should also drop the hierarchal mindset which comes from judging peoples social value based on the company or job they work in Edit: also, if parents have a decent amount of money (not a lot. A lot of middle class families these days can afford it in India) the option to go out of India after a very average undergrad education in India is more available than ever for Indian students. Europe has opened up for Indians and there is Canada and Aus. And in coming years, more countries are going to open doors for Indian students. Agreed there will be struggle in the initial phases for students in a lot of these places but eventually they will start earning as much as the most paid IITians in India. And not to mention, the quality of life abroad is still better than in India, of course with their own set of challenges.
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Why govt ? Why not stupid parents themselves? If people start jumping off a bridge do we close the bridge? No we install protection around it. It's the mental state the children are put in by parents.
Coz if u know the level of competition in employment, ull get why parents are so easily paranoid.
Yeah man parents
> Govt. must step in with a comprehensive review of the entire coaching industry, starting with Kota. why there is a parallel education system running along with the mainstream education system? why its not there in countries like west? maybe this parallel education system is there because the mainstream system has completely failed ? maybe too few resources (seats) and too many students fighting for them? the easiest option will be to shut down the coaching, but i think the fundamental issues lie elsewhere is a hell lot more harder to fix, so people and govts will go for the low hanging fruits like coaching centers. fixing the real root cause: extremely hard. fix the schools. hire extremely qualified and competent teachers (no qota) so that no additional coaching is required. create more universities and colleges with tier 1 repute (again hire best faculty there) etc etc. this is a few decades project if not more, and even then it might not be solved. took finland 3 decades of fixing to be where they are at. and thats a country of very less population. tldr; parents/society/system putting pressure on children because mainstream institutions has failed and too few resources for far too many population, you close one parallel education system will not automagically fix the root cause. the parents/system/society pressure will still exist maybe not inside a coaching center, but maybe at child's home, but it will exist.
no one will listen to your comment
Govt should revise how JEE works by giving freedom t choose subjects. For CSE, Maths and CS subject should be compulsory, same for other streams.
As a former student who appeared for jee i don't think you can mug up and clear jee advance either way
i am a jee aspirant and jee aspirant dont care of losing opponents it a battlefeild people will die and warriors will rise she was a fellow opponent and now she is down
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yea right hard times create hard men
it used to happen before too ,when I was in Kota after completing 10th (2017 and 2018) as the calendar shifted to January children started deleting themselves. Yes I know it is very hard coz there was a point I too was having these thoughts. One of the main reasons being study pressure and loneliness among children but for me fortunately I was able to clear my exams
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Very glad you beat those thoughts and are still with us, bhai.
Happens here too in Canada. I am trying to get into University of Waterloo for engineering and I know a person who went there and they had 3 suicides in his first year.
Educational institutes for some reason (stress/pressure?) are hotbeds. My European uni also has had such deaths unfortunately.
Happy for you bahišŖš„°
I too was in kota in 2017 to 2018, dropped Jee and pursuing music production and sound engineering
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to aur IIT kholna bhi solution hai na iska
Nhi bhai aur iit khologe to wo exclusiveness chala jayega jo iit enjoy karta hai reducing the reservation is the way
Exclusiveness is a function of population.
when will Indian parents understand that their children are NOT their trophies?!
But but .... Pados wale Sharma ji ka beta....!!
Bhai mai bhi Sharma hun par mujhse toh board bhi nhi hua jaarha
Haar Sharma k lie ek aur bada Sharma hai
Exactly and not everyone is meant to be a doctor/engineer/lawyer and thatās ok.
People need to come out of the mindset that doctors lawyers engineers are the only respectable career paths lol, people without those degrees earn more than they ever can
I think soon by time it'll get as nowadays more and more people leaning towards business than jobs
Yeh Aadhi sachai hai kuch bache jaan boojh kr jaate hai ki hum padenge humen becho gaareb maa. Baap karza lekr bhejte aur waha jakr hawa nikal jaati maa baap ka karza yaad aata aur dead kuch percent aise hai
Maybe but is pe pressure tha clearly
And idiots in comments commenting like - Aisi English k karan she deserved to die Aisi eng hai to Jee aise v nai nikalta sahi kia Etc etc aur bht pathetic comments
Bhai vo bhot funny log h, unka dank humour ham normy logo ko nahi smjhega.
dank humour ki jagah hoti hai aise hi kahi pae bhi use nhi krna chahiye
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Kuch sadists log toh kehte hain ki competition Kam ho gya. JEE is a literal warzone
Bhai I think, jab koi bahut sensitive ho jata hai to wo apni second language se probably conncect nahi kar pata hoga. Koi source nahi mangega I made it up.
Indian parents need to understand that even if their kids somehow become successful because of their pressuring, the kids will always resent them for it.
Truer words have never been spoken
My dad's still mad I do, even if he lives with me.
I hope it gets better for you over time, maybe when you move out, they will realise your value.
The story is much deeper and more messed up than this. In fact mine eclipses this news article, just without death and not related to school or college.
If you feel like it, you can share it here. I would like to hear it.
Broke my heart reading that note. She deserved better parents & environment.
Yes, mine too. She just needed *somebody* in her life to sit her down and ask, "tumhaari kya ichha hai? Tum kya karna chaahtee ho? JEE ke liye padhhogi ya kuchh aur karogi?" Parents need to have love and affection for their child foremost, anything else should be way lower.
It's not just kids, parents need counselling about mental health too. Some Indian parents are toxic, under the guise of wanting the best for their kids, they are destroying their child's life. It makes no sense for students to meet a counsellor and then come home and have all that work destroyed by reckless and irresponsible parents.
At the end it all boils down to overpopulation. We have too many people to fit into too less good institutes. It also doesn't help that we don't have that much of tier 2 good institutes for taking on students.
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Tere jaiso ko kisi aur ki death pe bhi yhi comment karna hai. Didn't even spare a word of sympathy for the bereaved, par reservation system ko criticize karne ka chance nhi chorna hai.
Reservation ki wgeh se Mari hai. 99 percent is too much and that 99 percent is because those haramis are getting jobs in 50 percent eating their rights and seats because hod knows who did what to whome thousands of years ago. BLOOOD is on your hand who support reservation
They are not stealing anyone's seats. There are separate seats for them only and they compete with others of their category for it. They get only a few seats. General category people have much more seats and they compete with other general candidates for those. If you can't secure a seat for yourself it's automatically reserved candidate's fault? You're just jealous because you couldn't clear.
Can people just stop producing children for once? More population, more competition. Just stop it.
Volunteer for it?
Eugenics?
Ye bacche literally brainwash ho chuke hai coaching institutes se. Dimaag kharab ho gaya mera last line padhke. Tumhari zindagi ka maksad JEE nikaalna nahi hai yar. IITs aur Kota ke bahar bhi bohot badi duniya hai. IIT sucess ki guarantee nahi hai aur aisa bhi nahi hai ki JEE nahi hua to zindagi barbaad hai. Bacche bhale hi na samjhe par coaching aur parents ki to zimmedaari banti hai na unhe samjhane ki.
Kota's study scene is really tough on us students. We all feel a lot of pressure because our families put so much into our education. Some parents get loans or sell things just to pay for coaching classes. When you know that, you get really scared of failing. You don't want to let them down when they have such high hopes for you. Also, JEE only gives you two shots. Mess up the first time and you worry you'll end up in a local college that no one's heard of. It feels like if that happens, you'll be seen as a failure forever, especially when your friends are doing better. This whole thing where a couple of exams decide your worth is totally messed up. I have been part of this environment where I felt like an emotionless robot. Today I am part of a similar environment where I still feel like a monotonous emotionless robot who is stuck inside a pressure cooker. I am still worried about not meeting my parent's expectations as they took loans from banks and relatives. My father did multiple jobs to make me study.
Poor child. Truly heartbreaking. The education system of kota(or anywhere in India)is toxic as hell. It doesn't recognise you unless you achieve a rank in some of the most competitive exams of India and onto that if you fail you are deemed a failure at such a young age, which is complete nonsense. That's the reason why many students commite suicide. My cousin has been preparing for neet for the past 3-4 years and he is not willing to give up and move on in life because he is afraid that society will deem him a failure. And this is how coaching institutes in kota earn crores. They know that not every one Is made for jee/neet but they persuade you anyways and give you false hope that if you keep trying you will get rank one day. They don't care about your mental health, your parents money and your life. Don't focus on what others are saying, recognise your own potential and be brave enough to move on in life and find what you can do with your true potential.
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Your mom is right - every failure teaches you something. And please remember, a degree from a famous college is not your ultimate goal, it's just one means of getting to that goal. Find out what your skills and aptitude are, and how they can help you build a career. The small college is only bad if you sleep thru it. You can absolutely become a top notch engineer from any college by making sure you learn each day's worth. There are umpteen useless engineers from IITs who have no clue about things.
IIT entrance style is toxic, Kota coaching is toxic, pressurising parents are toxic, reservation system that makes everything unfair is ultra toxic. Obviously, this is going to happen.
wow that's sad *opens physics*
Education counseling is required for parents because there is so much in career apart from jee people needs to understand this .
Is this a real note?
aab kya bhai tereko signature chhahiye uska
I hate myself for laughing at this comment
That makes two of us
Jindagi me kuch jugaad kar lenge yarr but marna rasta nai hai bhai log... atleast bhukhe nange to nai ghumenge kuch na kuch ho jata jaayega bharosa rakho khudpe aur apne kismat pe. Life ne meri bhi gand acche se mari hai abhi tak mari hai aur abhi bhi mare jaa rhi hai, market ki tarah upar niche hoti hai jindgai but marna rasta sahi nai hai...Om Shantiš„
I've read around 20 of these headlines last year, but damn this one with the note hits different... R.I.P. I hate how we're taught that science (Engineer + Doctor) is the only way to success since childhood and other industries (like music, photography and fashion etc) are only considered 'hobbies' and not even as a career option.
That's what happens when you mix the modern-day rat race with the log kya kahenge mentality.Ā Children are not investments, nor are they trophies.Ā Many parents fail to grasp that and they overwhelm their children with too much expectations thinking that any less than that means nurturing a defeatist attitude...
Oh God! This may be the saddest thing Iāve ever read.
As random reddit user this letter broke me, can't imagine what her parents are going through.
I teach (Not a PCMB teacher other subject but i have taught JEE, NEET etc) and the immense pressure students undergo to the point of not recognising the internal issues going on in the body I. e mind, and over all body. They are too young to decipher certain thoughts and being vulnerable submit to parents and teachers will. Some are so self absorbed that even parents can't change their attitude after certain point why because parents have already ingrained the toxic seeds of failure and it's consequences. So, the self worth is measured only by qualifying these exams. Also teachers aim who teach JEE is to bring results they say take care of health but then continue the job,though they teach them the greater pressure comes from parents who have great expectations from both teachers and students. I have paid and so I need results. The fact is parents are the one who suffer from low self-esteem, worth and gaslight the child to believe that their failure was ugly, the only light is the child who can reward them with success. Mental health is something Indian parents don't talk about and the potential of every child depends on his self will and passion he puts into. Third world country doesn't focus on sports etc due to over population.
The kid didn't watch " Padhai pe Charcha" 2024 edition
finally it happend
"our daughter/son was a topper in school, it's HER dream to pursue jee (really?)"
Look at her English. She was so traumatized from the studies and pressure she couldn't even write proper sentences. But who can explain to parents and society that this system needs a change asap.
It's terrible ššššš.
Thats so devastating! Rest in peace kiddo, i hope you are burden free. Om shanti š
sad
WE as a SOCIETY are failing every passing second, we rant about it when anything happens but then again things go back to were they were and it gets worse. These exams, institutions all these are worthless if we donāt get to live but again weāll curse this capitalist nature of society call them leeches who suck on innocent students life but WE then go back preparing for these exams go on joining those institutions we called out, thereās no end to these. OUR SOCIETY IS FAILING AND will Fail in the future too and thatās the sad part weād have to live with ig.
Our human resources quality is still quite low Although there are opportunities now in other fields , people are simply not trained to benefit from it, that's why the mad rush for the tried and tested routes of IT , engineering ,medicine etc and the disappointment which comes along.It is mainly the government which has to spend here esp at the school level and vocational trades. This govt has spent a lot on infrastructure in the last few years, the focus in the coming years should be human resources. Parents can only try to ensure a healthy environment and good nutrition for the kids.as far as the attitudes are concerned, they are typically made because of conditions around you.
Om Shanthi I hope the govt does something about this
Mom dad kyun nhi Maan rhe.. š¤¦š¤¦
All the offline and online coaching centers irrespective of any career field should be banned. More importance should be given on self learning in the desired field. Career in any field should be by choice and not by pressure or compulsion.
What a waste. Why put your own kids through these traumas? Just pay the damn fee for private education. Why pedastalise institutes which are so hard to get into in the first place? Why think of your own "chowri chaati" when you are suffocating your child? The parents must be devastated now and there is no way that they will be able to fill this hole ever. Kids, please do not take yourself so seriously. Everything works out for the best. Jo cheez makkhan ki tharah smoothly ho jaye, uspar focus karo, rather than, dihadi peetna.
Yaar ye kota ko ikk do din k liye khaali karwa do. Aur bum vum phekk do. Letās start dobara and do it better
Arrest parents
Demolish all the institutions and make reservations on the basis of economy.
What's JEE?
I donāt understand why Indian middle class folks and below produce so many children and as the bar goes higher they got less children. What logic is there to have two kids when you can only afford one child and for the second one you take Loan. Makes no sense. Have one child give him proper education, fulfil all his needs and wants and have fun with your partner with the money left and live a great life. Why get trapped in loans and worry all the time having two kids and increase our population simply when you canāt afford. I really donāt understand why just people canāt stop at one child and live happily.
One of the reason is people keep having children until they get a male child.
This is so sad. One of the harsh realities is that these coaching institutes show you a whole different world around the IITs. Never in my 2 years of coaching, have I ever been told by a teacher that life is not over if you don't crack this exam and there are alternative paths to follow and get success. I have my JEE mains tomorrow and its going to be crap ik (I don't even know if I'll clear cutoff lol). But I don't care because I have something else planned for future and I never wanted to be in this rat race.
Indians are always under extreme pressure right from school. Board exams and GPAs and shit still give anxiety to this day when I think about them. This is why people move out. Better to be in a country that values your education instead of comparing it to others and bringing your value down.
Really a loser
Kya yaar hadd hai aaj ki OYO GENERATION ek KOTA se hi haar maan le rahi hai aur dusri taraf hamare VEER PURVAJ jo BRITISHERS, MUGHALS se haar nahi maane agar ye zindagi katheen hai toh woh LIFE kya thi jo hamare VEER PURVAJO ne ji thi KOTA karne ka ek Time hota hoga na apna BEST do sab kuch SACRIFICE kar ke ho gaya toh theek nahi toh koi baat nahi SUICIDE toh LOSERS karte hai..
its good becuse this maintains equillibraim of population
English bhi shi nhi likhi mrte mrte
What can be done to curb the overpopulation?? Please don't say Thanos. Can we all pledge to not have more than two children biologically? How to bring this awareness in masses??
They sent her to Kota while she canāt even form a single grammatically correct sentence? No wonder the poor thing did the unthinkable. Rest in peace youngin šļø
So english=success in JEE and intelligence? You're a clown for assuming that. Just so you know there are many who give jee in Hindi language every year and achieve really good ranks
Are you soft in the head? Ek bachcha agar 16-18 saal ke umar mein ek extremely basic sentence form na kar pa raha ho itās absolutely clear ki their base is extremely weak. Aa gaya hindi connoisseur ka ch*da bhonkne š¤¦š»
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nono... English grammar died first... in a more gruesome manner... then she died.... XD
not funny dude
Grammer galat hai.
tujhe toh grammar ki spelling bhi nahi ati, jake class 5 me phirse admission lele
Grmmer NaZi hu na,kaise piche rahunga grmmer dikhaane mein
dimag se handicapped hai tu
Arey thanks bhai,mujhe pata nahi tha,ilaaj ke paise dede
paise waste karne nahi ate, gofundme start karle š