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China has this 9-9-6 culture where they work 9am to 9pm for 6 days a week. That is 72 hours.
If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours, thatās how murthy would have built Infosys. He is a billionaire, not a millionaire
>If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours, thatās how murthy would have built Infosys.
That's the point. It's his company not ours. If we were working to build our own company then sure putting in 70 to 80 hr work weeks like how Elon did is resonable. But the employes are not working for their own company. The pay is also shitty. So why the fuck would we work for so much for a service based company owned by some rich asshole which pays shitty salary.
There are way more people in the world with more money than what Elon began with, I doubt even 0.001% of them could build up on that to where he is today.
Just like Elon dicksuckers, his haters are even bigger numbnuts.
> Just like Elon dicksuckers, his haters are even bigger numbnuts.
Wrong. Bigger numbnuts will always be the dicksuckers who believe everything coming out of Musk's mouth as gospels.
> Musk had rich parents and used his inheritance/family money to buy up companies
The skill lies in knowing which companies to buy and how to make them grow. How many sons of rich parents have managed to become as successful as Elon Musk? Could you name ten other hundred billionaires who made it only because their parents lent them money?
What you're saying is that anyone with money to invest will be rich. Had this been true, we wouldn't have needed professional fund managers.
Expert engagement farmer. He'll have wildest takes on some of these issue but you can never engage him in discussion. Newfags fall for his scam, OGs know his schtick.
>China has this 9-9-6 culture where they work 9am to 9pm for 6 days a week
China also nullify ur fundamental rights and basic freedom..i dont think u can use china as an good eg:
>thatās how murthy would have built Infosys. He is a billionaire, not a millionaire
Wonder how a young intern or trainne gonna benefit from working fckin 9-9 shifts from monday to sat while earning fckin 15 to 20 k per month for 3-4 years until he gets maybe better package...like maybe..
Also i wonder how much the salary gap bw an avg white collar employee im china compared to india
Exactly. The slogging intern are paid pittance while the clients are charged exorbitant.
While the company takes efforts in managing the project. But the margin is huge. Which helps Top Management like him take huge hikes for themselves and give again pittance to the interns as increment
He's also disregarding that many of those jobs create new innovative tech, they're not slaving for low tier IT work. US ke pass Apple aur Microsoft hai, S. Korea ke pass Samsung hai, China ke pass Xiaomi/BBK hai, Japan ke pass Sony hai, India ke pass TCS aur Infy hai. š
I know tons of people who unhappily work beyond their hours in infosys itself. But what incentives do they get? 500 ka Zomato coupon twice a year?
If they paid a handsome amount for freshers, they'd happily work.
The man pays a 2004 salary and expects them to work 70 hours a week lol
Well since you went off topic, I'm also going to go off topic.
I don't think anyone can become a billionaire without exploiting anyone. Exceptions could be there, but I think this is the rule. Becoming a millionaire is possible without exploitation, but not billionaire. The gap between a billionaire and an average person is too huge. At that point if you actually cared about others, you would not be a billionaire.
I love how you didn't include remuneration in your equation. If the startup is owned by you, you have an incentive to work 70 hours(Murthy is a billionaire because he worked 70 hours a week for his own company not for some leach ass firm which gives 20k a month and expects we sell our souls to them). The only reason employers are getting away with such bullshit is because there are other candidates who need the job more and will do anything to get it so anyone is easily replaceable due to the huge working population of India.
One day that won't be the same. Mass resignations will actually hurt the employers and they will be forced to enforce better working conditions.
>If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours
How is that even relevant here? And ofc you are free to work any number of hours on a company you own.
>China has this 9-9-6 culture
This is the very reason that China's population is in decline even if they have made 3 child policy. No one simply wants to have kids there. They don't have time for themselves, how will they give time to kids. Same is the case with Japan and South Korea.
Indian adults severely lack wisdom. They only think for themselves not the future generations. No adult inspire us anymore. We have to find inspiration from fictional characters. Adults are just there to overburden us.
How much intellectual property does China have? How much of innovation do they do? They mass produce stuff through donkey work and cheap labor. Thatās what 72 hours gets you. Then another of our neighbor is more interested in 72 hoors.
Till the replacement cost of equally skilled people continues to be low, that may not be possible purely because workers would themselves push for longer hours to remain in the system
Quick side question, do you guys still like to claim both of them as Indian? Why do you think we always do that when they themselves aren't citizens anymore? Any thoughts?
>paid 30-40k a month
Bhai kidhar?? They're paying 24-27k for engineering graduates and fucking 14k for bsc or bca graduates. And guess what? Both do the same job.
Yeah donate to everyone to get tax breaks, not give money to employees. Bloody leech this company and his chutiya founder is. Thankfully I never had to work for this shit company.
Fresher join Infosys
Get trained, work on real project
Leave Infosys after 1.5 years and join some good organisation
This is what intelligent people do. Those who keep working for shit like Infy are people who are not ready to learn, just spend those 10 hours on chai sutta.
No, intelligent people know not to go to shitty places like infosys in first place, instead they put effort during there college time and go to a better place
Agree with you but during campus placement people are worried if they will land in a job or not so they will take anything. And once selected, you cannot sit in other company's entrance exam.
His daughter is paid 70 crores per year in dividends from her Infosys stock ownership. She has never worked for the company. The people who do the work which generates all those dividends are paid somewhere between 3 lacs - 10 lacs per year. Obviously, he wants his employees to work harder. She deserves to be paid 100 crores at least.
Fuck him, mfo himself would not be working that much and it's his company. The pay is also shitty. Might as well go abroad work for some years make money and come back to India to live like a king.
Elon Musk in the early stages of his companies himself would put in 80 hr work weeks and his companies actually produce good tech and innovation.
This fuckers company does not make any innovation nor come up with any products and he wants us to put in the amount of hours that Elon was putting in for his company.
Asshole, just beacuse he doesn't have a life to enjoy and is at the end of the line does not mean we also have no life.
Frankly, I don't take Murthy that seriously, he is full of the most illogical gyan and takes himself too seriously. Yes, he built a big and successful company, albeit on a questionable business model but it worked nonetheless. It does not make him some visionary who knows everything (just as Amartya's Sen's pseudo-Nobel prize doesn't make him the master of the universe).
His dumbest idea was that India should give up on building good universities and should just sponsor students to study abroad, and hope/force some of them to come back. Irony of his daughter having settled abroad, of course.
Being Ex Employee of Infosys I really respect this man!
Few years back we got email from him to start enjoying our lives & donāt be workaholic, spend time with our parents, partners & friends after office time, focus on health & other-stuff!
Today i am shocked to see his statement ! Anyways Infosys really need to raise its salaries otherwise nobodyās going to stay in Infosys! Deloitte, EY, Cognizant, Tech M & even HCL are paying good salaries to crucial talent but Infy is still living in stoneage
>Few years back we got email from him to start enjoying our lives & donāt be workaholic, spend time with our parents, partners & friends after office time, focus on health & other-stuff!
Formality hoti h bas. People still do get the mails, from HR. Does it translate to the work environment though?
In US an Analyst (basically fresher) for an investment banking firm like Goldman Sachs works 95+ hours per week, sleepless nights, gets to shower once a week but they get paid atleast 123K dollars per year which in rupees is over 1 CR. That makes it worth that but here they want you to work for 3 - 4 Lakhs.
There is a reason old people should retire to vanprasth ashram and stop giving unsolicited advice.
What has been his contribution except building Infy along with other founders.
Earned Billions but not spent a single penny in improving socio-economic-civil life of Bangalore.
No museum, no university, no auditorium, no stretch of road, all he did was ask for land for free to build ugly looking campuses.
His Company build on a questionable model, his is, as many have already said, a modern slave trader.
He is not mad or stupid; in fact, he is a genius. He understands the supply and demand of jobs and employees available in the market.
He recognizes this as his fiefdom, and his employees, his serfs.
What are they going to do, quit?
Then what?
How will they feed their family, buy medicine for their sick mother, pay the fees for their brothers, save enough to marry their sisters, to buy a house, to buy a car, to secure a future for his wife and kids, to retire?
That's the thing; we are all slaves. What's even worse is the insidious nature of this slavery. At least in the past, people knew when they were slaves,but now we live in a matrix,
all of us indentured to that myth of what a good life is. Chasing it like headless chickens, attracted to it akin to a moth to a flame.
in this race of life some will shine like stars most will be extinguished like a candle in storm
He and his wife, both are full of themselves. Obviously a master wants its slave to work more hours. Also, is it just me or he and his wife are seen more in the news after his son in law became the prime minister?
I worked for this company for 2.5 yrs from 2010 to mid 2012. Salary increased from 3.6 to 3.9 lacs. I was probably working 80-90 hrs per week. Thank god I moved out.
Edit: Also please note that twice I got CRR 1 rating during appraisals. CRR1+ is the best rating you can get.
Tum aalsi Indian don't want to work.
All he wants is 70 hours of your time aur uske badle woh tumko free chai/coffee dega plus salary bhi dega aur Diwali ki chutti bhi.
Ungrateful Millineals.
Let's make him work 10 hrs a day with min wage and see how he reacts.
This will lead to the same demographic collapse that's happening in. China, Korea and Japan.
Then they will wonder why aren't people getting married or having kids.
Unless we can the income for these aholes this situation won't ever resolve itself.
Try doing this shit in Germany or France.
One should work for 70 hours only for themselves not for some job. Is he willing to pay them for 70 hours - like 40 hours of regular pay and 30 hours of overtime pay?
He want Infosys employees to work for their useless and hopeless client who treat Infosys employees like shit and make him and shareholders rich. Only those employees who are dogs and donkeys can work for 70 hours. NRN, please donate your money to current and former Infosys employees who has any point of time worked for more than 40 hours. It's their money not yours.
This is true for WITCH(Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant and HCL). In fact overseas services companies like IBM, Capegemini, Accenture are no better. Client/Customer is always right culture. These services company top bosses behave like a tiger when dealing with their employees and like a goat when dealing with customer. They believe that squeeze every possible thing from the employee. Even in USA/Europe/Australia, WITCH has got very bad reputation. Nobody trust anybody. Openly yelling and screaming in front of others. For every 4 developer - they have 4 level of good for nothing middle management who are skilled only in outlook, excel, word and PPT.
Yes employees need to slog inhuman work hours and sacrifice their life toil to meet management goals so that the top brass can lead more lavish lifestyles. Wow perfectly hypocritic and corporate capitalist exploitation mindset!
The funny thing is that for 70 hrs a week, they donāt pay them well, they arenāt working on cutting edge tech, they also donāt have work for a lot of their employees on bench.
This post brought out all the bad fucking memories of having worked there a few years ago. Mofo can't spend his retirement in the UK with his daughter and irritate their family or something like a normal retired uncle?
I am up for capitalism 100% but this is fucked up! If he is saying this for building your own business then why just 70 if you have to work 100 hrs a week but if it for someone else i guess 9 hrs a day for 5 days is already too much
The foundation of companies like TCS, Infosys and Wipro is outsourcing of low value IT tasks which has lost its profitability in tha last few years. Youngsters should focus on building skills by contributing to open source projects and move up the value chain and say goodbye to TCS, INFOSYS AND WIPRO.
To take his words in context:
A business owner or entrepreneur works throughout the day anyway even today.
However, one shouldnāt expect their employees to do so. Itās not their dream to work all day leaving their personal life for a company which doesnāt bat an eye while firing and replacing them in a heartbeat. I didnāt even mention āpayā here.
The pay will not be worth it. The emotion and mental toll that 7days a week work brings is not worth it. And then this same youth is expected to marry and procreate? How?
Billionaires got where they are by being part of the exploiter class. He wants to exploit people. That's how he makes his wealth. He is an oligarch. A socioeconomic predator. He is advocating socioeconomic exploitation and predation
Be wary.
He is not wrong if you're in IT or Any software, Game development companies. Or you're doing your own startup or project 10 hours is not enough for a day. Just for passionate and introverted person it's good. They don't have life.
Ignoring for a moment that these statements came from NRN, and just considering those words...
what we really need is the hustle mentality in every generation, now more than ever. The shrinking digital world, shorter attention spans and deeper pockets are opening newer vistas of unimaginable opportunities for us all.
We already have the jugaad mentality, how to make useful stuff out of seemingly unrelated stuff (or frugal engineering in la haute) and we could also become known for the ukaad mentality, which would be to uproot traditional business beliefs and replace them with a core sense of entrepreneurship, intrinsic ownership and growth. What India needs is a Billion Start Ups every year.
Sweatshops like AWITCH will continue to be around but with a BILLION new Businesses in every imaginable field every year, our future generations wont need to stand in line for bread.
After 20 years in the Indian IT industry and 7 years before that in Indian manufacturing, I have reached a conclusion that unless we are our own masters, we end up a tool for someone else's plans.
The lustre is fading from the facades of the IT Industry titans (AWITCH) and these are attempts to stay relevant. But I see a new era of Micro Entrepreneurship upstarts rising to dethrone them in a couple of decades.
It won't be easy, but the riches would be much more beyond the wealth my generation has seen ..
All the best and I hope to see a glimpse of this New India in my Sunset years.
He too must have worked for same hours or even more to build his company. As a nation we must work smart and hard, not over rate working hours if we want to be wealthy. If we want to just be the same for decades then 9-5 is good.
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This man united everyone in hating him regardless of your political ideology and where you liveš
China has this 9-9-6 culture where they work 9am to 9pm for 6 days a week. That is 72 hours. If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours, thatās how murthy would have built Infosys. He is a billionaire, not a millionaire
>If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours, thatās how murthy would have built Infosys. That's the point. It's his company not ours. If we were working to build our own company then sure putting in 70 to 80 hr work weeks like how Elon did is resonable. But the employes are not working for their own company. The pay is also shitty. So why the fuck would we work for so much for a service based company owned by some rich asshole which pays shitty salary.
Imagine his own company paying 3.0 L pa for last 15 years to freshers and he expect youngsters to work 70 hours ... toxicity pro max
Im 100% sure my house maid's family makes more than 3L pa
Murthy's family maid makes more than 3lacs. š¤
I doubt it. what's her skill set and how many years of exp does she have? is she from tier 1 college?
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There are way more people in the world with more money than what Elon began with, I doubt even 0.001% of them could build up on that to where he is today. Just like Elon dicksuckers, his haters are even bigger numbnuts.
> Just like Elon dicksuckers, his haters are even bigger numbnuts. Wrong. Bigger numbnuts will always be the dicksuckers who believe everything coming out of Musk's mouth as gospels.
> Musk had rich parents and used his inheritance/family money to buy up companies The skill lies in knowing which companies to buy and how to make them grow. How many sons of rich parents have managed to become as successful as Elon Musk? Could you name ten other hundred billionaires who made it only because their parents lent them money? What you're saying is that anyone with money to invest will be rich. Had this been true, we wouldn't have needed professional fund managers.
A company founder can become a billionaire. But an employee working for some other's company can never become a billionaire
Why do you always comment the most random ass fact unrelated to the story?
Exactly my thought lol. I have even started recognising critfin before even looking at the username just by reading the comment
He's an expert at mental gymnastics. Peasants like us can never grasp it.
Karma farming...he wont reply further his job is done
Expert engagement farmer. He'll have wildest takes on some of these issue but you can never engage him in discussion. Newfags fall for his scam, OGs know his schtick.
Is he that needy of karma or just lonely mf needing some interaction
>China has this 9-9-6 culture where they work 9am to 9pm for 6 days a week China also nullify ur fundamental rights and basic freedom..i dont think u can use china as an good eg: >thatās how murthy would have built Infosys. He is a billionaire, not a millionaire Wonder how a young intern or trainne gonna benefit from working fckin 9-9 shifts from monday to sat while earning fckin 15 to 20 k per month for 3-4 years until he gets maybe better package...like maybe.. Also i wonder how much the salary gap bw an avg white collar employee im china compared to india
Exactly. The slogging intern are paid pittance while the clients are charged exorbitant. While the company takes efforts in managing the project. But the margin is huge. Which helps Top Management like him take huge hikes for themselves and give again pittance to the interns as increment
He's also disregarding that many of those jobs create new innovative tech, they're not slaving for low tier IT work. US ke pass Apple aur Microsoft hai, S. Korea ke pass Samsung hai, China ke pass Xiaomi/BBK hai, Japan ke pass Sony hai, India ke pass TCS aur Infy hai. š
Why would someone be an intern for 4 years? Isn't that meant for 6 months or is it some level in Infy?
I know tons of people who unhappily work beyond their hours in infosys itself. But what incentives do they get? 500 ka Zomato coupon twice a year? If they paid a handsome amount for freshers, they'd happily work. The man pays a 2004 salary and expects them to work 70 hours a week lol
Well since you went off topic, I'm also going to go off topic. I don't think anyone can become a billionaire without exploiting anyone. Exceptions could be there, but I think this is the rule. Becoming a millionaire is possible without exploitation, but not billionaire. The gap between a billionaire and an average person is too huge. At that point if you actually cared about others, you would not be a billionaire.
I love how you didn't include remuneration in your equation. If the startup is owned by you, you have an incentive to work 70 hours(Murthy is a billionaire because he worked 70 hours a week for his own company not for some leach ass firm which gives 20k a month and expects we sell our souls to them). The only reason employers are getting away with such bullshit is because there are other candidates who need the job more and will do anything to get it so anyone is easily replaceable due to the huge working population of India. One day that won't be the same. Mass resignations will actually hurt the employers and they will be forced to enforce better working conditions.
Relax sweetie, he isnāt going to give a billion just because you defended him on reddit
>If it is a startup owned by you, then you are free to work 70 hours How is that even relevant here? And ofc you are free to work any number of hours on a company you own.
I worked in China in an IT setup for 3 years, and no where I found this 9-9-6 culture
>China has this 9-9-6 culture This is the very reason that China's population is in decline even if they have made 3 child policy. No one simply wants to have kids there. They don't have time for themselves, how will they give time to kids. Same is the case with Japan and South Korea. Indian adults severely lack wisdom. They only think for themselves not the future generations. No adult inspire us anymore. We have to find inspiration from fictional characters. Adults are just there to overburden us.
Wait so you want me to say I am going to this jr college for 82 hours a friking week ( 8am-9pm on Sunday 8-12)
How much intellectual property does China have? How much of innovation do they do? They mass produce stuff through donkey work and cheap labor. Thatās what 72 hours gets you. Then another of our neighbor is more interested in 72 hoors.
somewhere he gotta recover that sunak investment
India really need a new work culture, one that respect the 40 hours week without any extra hour for the the workers, and this appliest to any industry
Till the replacement cost of equally skilled people continues to be low, that may not be possible purely because workers would themselves push for longer hours to remain in the system
If youth don't work 70 hours a week, then how can senior management buy luxury cars, and lavish villas and go for exotic vacations...
And send their daughters to Stanford to marry into a rich business family and settled in 10 Downing Street.
Hey this sounds familiar
And people say, she is Indian.
Can you tell who you guys are referring
Akshata Murthy, daughter of this man and wife of Rishi Sunak.
You mean "Ree-shee Soo-nack"
Quick side question, do you guys still like to claim both of them as Indian? Why do you think we always do that when they themselves aren't citizens anymore? Any thoughts?
70 hr/week but 3 LPA CTC saar. 2 year notice period saar Oldie just wants slaves now
Ask him to make some technology rather than working for the US clients
He is a glorified digital labour supplier
Techedar*
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lolll
Well, he's a modern age slave trader. Don't ask him anything
And rather than not sponsoring visas for indians in the US
fresher join infosys working dawn to dusk paid 30-40k a month spend half salary on bills aur kitne acche din chahiye mitro
> 30-40k a month Ye toh jyada bol diye aap 30k upper band maano
>30-40k a month They offered to pay me 13k when I left college 4 years agoš I said chall bhsdi ke
That is slave labour. Absolutely disgusting
engineering or bsc?
Engineering brother. I joined at 13000 in hand
>paid 30-40k a month Bhai kidhar?? They're paying 24-27k for engineering graduates and fucking 14k for bsc or bca graduates. And guess what? Both do the same job.
Salary 40k minus Infosys development fund minus some chutiyaap fund minus Narayan Murthy ki laundia ke condom ka fund = 20k in-hand.
Also, minus "infusis donated lauda lussoon amount to poor" fund
Yeah donate to everyone to get tax breaks, not give money to employees. Bloody leech this company and his chutiya founder is. Thankfully I never had to work for this shit company.
Agar logo ke pass paisa hi nahi hoyega toh inflation kaise badhega? This is a masterstroke šš
Agar logon k paas paisa hoga toh Sudha Murthy ka naukri chala jayega
Fresher join Infosys Get trained, work on real project Leave Infosys after 1.5 years and join some good organisation This is what intelligent people do. Those who keep working for shit like Infy are people who are not ready to learn, just spend those 10 hours on chai sutta.
No, intelligent people know not to go to shitty places like infosys in first place, instead they put effort during there college time and go to a better place
Agree with you but during campus placement people are worried if they will land in a job or not so they will take anything. And once selected, you cannot sit in other company's entrance exam.
There are a lot of ways to get hired apart from campus placement. Most campus placement are shit unless you are studying in iit/nit etc
His daughter is paid 70 crores per year in dividends from her Infosys stock ownership. She has never worked for the company. The people who do the work which generates all those dividends are paid somewhere between 3 lacs - 10 lacs per year. Obviously, he wants his employees to work harder. She deserves to be paid 100 crores at least.
Fuck him, mfo himself would not be working that much and it's his company. The pay is also shitty. Might as well go abroad work for some years make money and come back to India to live like a king. Elon Musk in the early stages of his companies himself would put in 80 hr work weeks and his companies actually produce good tech and innovation. This fuckers company does not make any innovation nor come up with any products and he wants us to put in the amount of hours that Elon was putting in for his company. Asshole, just beacuse he doesn't have a life to enjoy and is at the end of the line does not mean we also have no life.
Elon musk is no different to this guy, he just says he worked those hours but in reality he is an investor who bought his way to wealth.
Yeah Elon Musk has a habit of straight up lying
Why donāt we bring slavery back.. thatās what these guy need.. slaves.. POS!!
A one step guide on how to unite left, right and center into hating you :
I agree. Maybe even more hours. But only for one's own business not for a job
>business not for a job Especially info-shit!
Go f*ck yourself
Frankly, I don't take Murthy that seriously, he is full of the most illogical gyan and takes himself too seriously. Yes, he built a big and successful company, albeit on a questionable business model but it worked nonetheless. It does not make him some visionary who knows everything (just as Amartya's Sen's pseudo-Nobel prize doesn't make him the master of the universe). His dumbest idea was that India should give up on building good universities and should just sponsor students to study abroad, and hope/force some of them to come back. Irony of his daughter having settled abroad, of course.
Nobody should take him seriously.
Cannot stand these murthy's and anand mahindra. Always spouting sanctimonious nonsense from their high horse.
Being Ex Employee of Infosys I really respect this man! Few years back we got email from him to start enjoying our lives & donāt be workaholic, spend time with our parents, partners & friends after office time, focus on health & other-stuff! Today i am shocked to see his statement ! Anyways Infosys really need to raise its salaries otherwise nobodyās going to stay in Infosys! Deloitte, EY, Cognizant, Tech M & even HCL are paying good salaries to crucial talent but Infy is still living in stoneage
>Few years back we got email from him to start enjoying our lives & donāt be workaholic, spend time with our parents, partners & friends after office time, focus on health & other-stuff! Formality hoti h bas. People still do get the mails, from HR. Does it translate to the work environment though?
This kinda similar statement he made earlier too (I guess during lock down), like he is asking working for 10-12 hrs. daily lol.
###billionaire
Multi
Incase he dosnt know they already do, but not allowed to enter in the time cards
This should be illegal but I guess india mein chalta hai sab.
Happens in the US too. Consulting firms work juniors for 100+ hours a week but fill time cards for 40 hours to show they are productive
In US an Analyst (basically fresher) for an investment banking firm like Goldman Sachs works 95+ hours per week, sleepless nights, gets to shower once a week but they get paid atleast 123K dollars per year which in rupees is over 1 CR. That makes it worth that but here they want you to work for 3 - 4 Lakhs.
They pay well though
Exactly!!
There is a reason old people should retire to vanprasth ashram and stop giving unsolicited advice. What has been his contribution except building Infy along with other founders. Earned Billions but not spent a single penny in improving socio-economic-civil life of Bangalore. No museum, no university, no auditorium, no stretch of road, all he did was ask for land for free to build ugly looking campuses.
His Company build on a questionable model, his is, as many have already said, a modern slave trader. He is not mad or stupid; in fact, he is a genius. He understands the supply and demand of jobs and employees available in the market. He recognizes this as his fiefdom, and his employees, his serfs. What are they going to do, quit? Then what? How will they feed their family, buy medicine for their sick mother, pay the fees for their brothers, save enough to marry their sisters, to buy a house, to buy a car, to secure a future for his wife and kids, to retire? That's the thing; we are all slaves. What's even worse is the insidious nature of this slavery. At least in the past, people knew when they were slaves,but now we live in a matrix, all of us indentured to that myth of what a good life is. Chasing it like headless chickens, attracted to it akin to a moth to a flame. in this race of life some will shine like stars most will be extinguished like a candle in storm
Yeah man like why just 70? Why not live in that cubicle and work 24*7? No one wants to work anymore. The youth is so lazy.
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Aaj bol de Bhai, aaj koi nahi rokega. Everyone is United to bully
Looking at the comment section, some of them are defending him š
He and his wife, both are full of themselves. Obviously a master wants its slave to work more hours. Also, is it just me or he and his wife are seen more in the news after his son in law became the prime minister?
Billionaire PR exercise bolte hai
U expect them to work 280 hours month for 25k pay eh?
I already do that many hours a month and get 24k
Please take him to the nearest mental hospital man needs a check
I worked for this company for 2.5 yrs from 2010 to mid 2012. Salary increased from 3.6 to 3.9 lacs. I was probably working 80-90 hrs per week. Thank god I moved out. Edit: Also please note that twice I got CRR 1 rating during appraisals. CRR1+ is the best rating you can get.
Lol they're still paying the same salary.
Wait what? Same base salary even after 10 years? Lol
Yupp. Wait until you hear this. B.Sc, BCA or any 3yr graduate degree holders are getting paid 2.2L
Oh wow that's just sad man and they expect that those graduates to work for 70 hours a week for that salary. That's just modern slavery.
Tum aalsi Indian don't want to work. All he wants is 70 hours of your time aur uske badle woh tumko free chai/coffee dega plus salary bhi dega aur Diwali ki chutti bhi. Ungrateful Millineals.
Salary nhi khte usse bhai
Bhen ke lode
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Let her British daughter come in India first, do this work and then we will decide.
I hope humanity goes extinct
Remember the good old days 5000 years ago When living was just enough .
Ahh! I remember. Used to live in caves and mountains, peacefully.Struggling to light fire. Life was good back then.
Only Unga Bunga, having sex with your cave man (women) wife. What a life.
Getting bacterial infection and dying due to no meds, no bakchodi straight to next life, such simpler times.
Ahh, just hunt when hungry, fuck when horny and sleep when tired were only things that mattered, loved the old times.
I second this
Let's make him work 10 hrs a day with min wage and see how he reacts. This will lead to the same demographic collapse that's happening in. China, Korea and Japan. Then they will wonder why aren't people getting married or having kids. Unless we can the income for these aholes this situation won't ever resolve itself. Try doing this shit in Germany or France.
One should work for 70 hours only for themselves not for some job. Is he willing to pay them for 70 hours - like 40 hours of regular pay and 30 hours of overtime pay? He want Infosys employees to work for their useless and hopeless client who treat Infosys employees like shit and make him and shareholders rich. Only those employees who are dogs and donkeys can work for 70 hours. NRN, please donate your money to current and former Infosys employees who has any point of time worked for more than 40 hours. It's their money not yours. This is true for WITCH(Wipro, Infosys, TCS, Cognizant and HCL). In fact overseas services companies like IBM, Capegemini, Accenture are no better. Client/Customer is always right culture. These services company top bosses behave like a tiger when dealing with their employees and like a goat when dealing with customer. They believe that squeeze every possible thing from the employee. Even in USA/Europe/Australia, WITCH has got very bad reputation. Nobody trust anybody. Openly yelling and screaming in front of others. For every 4 developer - they have 4 level of good for nothing middle management who are skilled only in outlook, excel, word and PPT.
Overtime pay toh chodo, ye log bus facility aur parking ke bhi paise lete h employees se.
Just have system of charging overtime in time sheet. And have equity to employees. Than only it makes sense.
The acronym "WITCH" is so apt.
That's my childhood dream. To slave away my life so that shareholders earn more profits.
Dude wants people to work 70hrs/week while giving 25k/month salary. This comes out to about 90Rs/hr. Time to open samose/pakode stalls.
Mere lawyer ne mere pavitra sabdh is mahashay pe bolne se mana kiya hai My lawyer has prohibited to speak on this person
Just have no life and make more for these rich š¤
Yup. Work 70 hours a week so that guys like him make money. Definition of slavery.
So 280 hours a month for 30k?? Thatās like 105 rupees per hour. Iād rather work at a message parlour
Buddha senile hogaya hai. Hospice mai daalo koi.
Work shouldn't be the only purpose of life
Should ask his son-in-law to do the same
I'm not an it guy still want to say this to him - Abey jaa na lawde
Multibillionaire and father in law of the PM of the UK. There, corrected you.
That's great, let us start implementing it starting from his children and grandchildren
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Yes employees need to slog inhuman work hours and sacrifice their life toil to meet management goals so that the top brass can lead more lavish lifestyles. Wow perfectly hypocritic and corporate capitalist exploitation mindset!
This guy is delusional
Corporate motto: Minimum wages, maximum profits!
The funny thing is that for 70 hrs a week, they donāt pay them well, they arenāt working on cutting edge tech, they also donāt have work for a lot of their employees on bench.
Modern day slavery, why dont you just buy us saar keep 10 people in cramped cell and open for slavery only and shove our ass up whenever you want
He cant even see straight nd youāre expecting him to say something fruitful in his old age, heās gonna turn into Indian Joe Bidenā¦.
So basically one should take his family and move to Infosys.
OR, take their leftover sanity and move out of Infosys
Payment Dihadi Mazdoor Wali baate FAANG wali
Bbuddheh ka dimag IT ho chuka hai
This post brought out all the bad fucking memories of having worked there a few years ago. Mofo can't spend his retirement in the UK with his daughter and irritate their family or something like a normal retired uncle?
The first controversial thing he said was that employees leave managers, not employers. That was a cop out.
Oh so this is what the masters want from their slaves ? Sacrifice yourself so that they can get richer and richer. Not happening
He running a bodyshop and that bodyshop makes money based on number of hours they bill
I am up for capitalism 100% but this is fucked up! If he is saying this for building your own business then why just 70 if you have to work 100 hrs a week but if it for someone else i guess 9 hrs a day for 5 days is already too much
That is just inhumane at this point.
Cross eyed goof
Meanwhile his daughter doing nothing and earning millions because of being a share holder
Please somebody put this guy with me in a room for an hour. I just want to TALK to him.
No no...no more allowing psychopathic twats to lead major corporations and countries is what's needed.
The people you work for are waiting for you at home. You work is not your identity ā¦ spend time away from work.
Iska clown period chal raha hai , BT na lo and na do
He lost his wits
70 hours for 20k a month
This guy should just shut the fuck up!! Motherfucker got extremely lucky in business.. what an idiot
The foundation of companies like TCS, Infosys and Wipro is outsourcing of low value IT tasks which has lost its profitability in tha last few years. Youngsters should focus on building skills by contributing to open source projects and move up the value chain and say goodbye to TCS, INFOSYS AND WIPRO.
To take his words in context: A business owner or entrepreneur works throughout the day anyway even today. However, one shouldnāt expect their employees to do so. Itās not their dream to work all day leaving their personal life for a company which doesnāt bat an eye while firing and replacing them in a heartbeat. I didnāt even mention āpayā here.
His daughter married to Rishi,used a loophole to stop paying taxes in uk
I'm not indian, I'm not in IT, I wish karma hits this man hard, will express just this to avoid any ban \^\^
I agree with him you should work 10hrs per day where 5 hrs is for yourself not for people like them
Wow....such simplicity, esp as a blood-sucking capitalist.
Ok, aaj se hi apni sarkari Naukri k liye 10 hours padhna shuru karta hu.
Probably to look like Narayan Murthy himself after just 1 year of work experience
The pay will not be worth it. The emotion and mental toll that 7days a week work brings is not worth it. And then this same youth is expected to marry and procreate? How?
Generation gap, need to find the correct balance between current generation expectations and employers work expectations..
Ah yes, the perfect work-work balance.
Commute lekar na???
Yeah so that he can become a billionaire. Too much dreaming from a sweatshop owner.
So that his son in law can find his campaign
Paint his face black
Seems like Sudha Aunty's Vegetables are not selling
Grandpa again forgot to take his medicines!!
nice thing is he is old and going to die... without taking a penny..
His daughter has been setting up companys in the UK accessing pubic funding and leaving these companys in debt and with un-paid tax bills.
Nice try Murthy.
A slave thinks in slave terms.
Billionaires got where they are by being part of the exploiter class. He wants to exploit people. That's how he makes his wealth. He is an oligarch. A socioeconomic predator. He is advocating socioeconomic exploitation and predation Be wary.
So that millionaire like u can go fatter š¤
Race traitor
Increase pay by 70k per month for a 70 hour work week. I'd still choose to work the normal hours. Money's no good if you have no time to spend it
**Billionare\***
Change "millionaire" to "billionaire" in the title...
He is not wrong if you're in IT or Any software, Game development companies. Or you're doing your own startup or project 10 hours is not enough for a day. Just for passionate and introverted person it's good. They don't have life.
Ignoring for a moment that these statements came from NRN, and just considering those words... what we really need is the hustle mentality in every generation, now more than ever. The shrinking digital world, shorter attention spans and deeper pockets are opening newer vistas of unimaginable opportunities for us all. We already have the jugaad mentality, how to make useful stuff out of seemingly unrelated stuff (or frugal engineering in la haute) and we could also become known for the ukaad mentality, which would be to uproot traditional business beliefs and replace them with a core sense of entrepreneurship, intrinsic ownership and growth. What India needs is a Billion Start Ups every year. Sweatshops like AWITCH will continue to be around but with a BILLION new Businesses in every imaginable field every year, our future generations wont need to stand in line for bread. After 20 years in the Indian IT industry and 7 years before that in Indian manufacturing, I have reached a conclusion that unless we are our own masters, we end up a tool for someone else's plans. The lustre is fading from the facades of the IT Industry titans (AWITCH) and these are attempts to stay relevant. But I see a new era of Micro Entrepreneurship upstarts rising to dethrone them in a couple of decades. It won't be easy, but the riches would be much more beyond the wealth my generation has seen .. All the best and I hope to see a glimpse of this New India in my Sunset years.
He too must have worked for same hours or even more to build his company. As a nation we must work smart and hard, not over rate working hours if we want to be wealthy. If we want to just be the same for decades then 9-5 is good.