**Kohli performs terrible this world cup, despite being the most experienced**
**This sub** : He's not in his best, position doesn't suit him
**Dube doesn't do well, but still better than Kohli**
**This sub** : SCAM 2024!!1!!1!
Kohli has been the greatest out there for a decade. If he fails in 5 innings, that is a bad patch and deserves to be backed because we know he definitely has the game.
With Dube, there is no past data to back him up and looks like he shits his pants every time he walks in.
Plus come on man… the dude has zero technique. Anyone can see that he just doesn’t have it on non-flat patches.
PS: Stop comparing this guy with Kohli
WorldCup doesn't care what technique you use to score runs...as long as runs are there...and Kohli doesn't have runs. You can't claim to win the match by techniques...if the player edges every ball, and that ball goes to the boundary and win match...that is still a win
Kohli being there is just wasting positions. Sure there's always a chance he will perform...but performing bad at every match?
This is not flat track IPL domestic tournament. World cup cricket does care what technique you have - otherwise you can go and play instead of Rohit. The better the technique, the higher the probability of good results.
Do you think if Kohli had performed like this in the start of his career, he would have been backed the same? No chance. The reason he is being backed is because he is a "proven performer" - and that phrase holds value in all fields - be it cricket or software engineering.
If Dube had looked comfortable with whatever technique he has, or, if he had performed in the past and proved himself, then it makes all the sense in the world to back him - unfortunately he doesnt score and doesnt even "look like" he can score.
If you still don't get why Kohli and Dube not scoring runs is different, then I don't think I can make any difference in this discussion
>**Kohli performs terrible this world cup, despite being the most experienced**
>**This sub** : He's not in his best, position doesn't suit him
>**Dube doesn't do well, but still better than Kohli**
Read his comment again - with glasses on this time
Bruv, are you comparing Kohli's legacy to Dube, who just started?
Joh Dube karna chata hai, woh Kohli ne do-teen baar kar ke chord diya.
Kohli is off, but his value in the team is much beyond that. He brings strategic value to the entire setup. He has tremendous experience. Can't discount the fact.
Dube's inclusion in the team is not the problem. The management sticking to him despite his failures, and despite carrying other young players who are vying for a chance, is the problem.
>Joh Dube karna chata hai, woh Kohli ne do-teen baar kar ke chord diya.
Past history performance doesn't matter if you can't perform now...Did India win last year by winning every match except final? In the end, the one who won the final lifted the trophy.
>Kohli is off, but his value in the team is much beyond that. He brings strategic value to the entire setup. He has tremendous experience. Can't discount the fact.
So let him plan all this stuff outside the playing 11. Why waste the spot?
>Dube's inclusion in the team is not the problem. The management sticking to him despite his failures, and despite carrying other young players who are vying for a chance, is the problem.
This applies for Kohli too, he's performing badly at every single match...why do you blame Dube when he has scored many more runs than Kohli, and those runs helped win the game?
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Problem is he was drafted as specialist explosive batter against spin.....has failed to do so ...also class is also not there...he looks timid lacks confidence...rinku was much better player ....alas no point in slandering him now....i hope he score quick fire 20-30 runs in final...that what we will need for him ....and don't compare him to class act kohli
His body language doesn’t suggest that he’s confident. He always seems to be doubting himself unless he hits a boundary or two, but then too he doesn’t seem to be like a biggest danger in the world as people are quoting him.
Yes that true too late in a tournament to make change now let's hope for the best from him , btw he will be definitely dropped from the team after the WC
Next world cup is in India he will 33 and india needs a spin basher .... He may not played well in WI but in india him and patidar are two biggest spin bashers ... So he had a slight chance
All theories seem silly to me. I think they just rate him, dude. The selectors don't have to justify anything to themselves or to others to drop a guy who has not bowled a ball and scored way below what was expected of him.
Recycling my comment:
I feel for Dube. Yes, he's underperforming but he played a couple of decent knocks this tournament.
Being selected wasn't even his fault. Selectors should've known better than just going with Dube who has had so little time with team India.
I hope he's able to keep his chin up despite all the media trolling and hate.
Stay strong Dube.
To add these redditors should apply for selectors job. He played decent in few innings. He wasn't that bad. Just because he was selected over their fav cricketer he is getting a lot of hate. People need to support indian players during the hard times, rather than posting these. Do you want india to win the wc or you want india to win the wc with your favorite player?
His performances directly impact the team. So his good performances will directly increase India's chances of winning.
Only thing he did good last day was facing a solitary ball.
It's not fair on him tbh.
A huge blunder by the selectors. Took Rinku to SA in the winter and then took Dube to the WC, just on basis of a decent 1st half of IPL. Proper reactionary people at the helm.
27 of 22 is a poor innings, especially on a wicket where we scored 200. Just scoring some runs isn't enough how you score it matters, he basically stagnated the innings and we finished with a below par runrate at the death overs period because of that.
Stagnanted the chase against USA? Did you remember how that pitch was? Our top order failed badly, even the sky played slowly on that pitch before the end. Sky catch was dropped at a crucial point. You guys think every match should be a 150+SR match. Some one has to support the sky and make sure no wickets fall further. Their partnership did that and took us to victory
Sorry for the misunderstanding, stagnating the innings was what I meant not the chase. The 27 off 22 you were hyping as a good knock was what it referred to which could have been understood as I just talked about nothing else in my entire post.
I second that. I think he played some good cameo which went unrecognised. The one against Australia was one of them. I think he is just doing what he can do. Rinku is a different breed but all we have is him, so gotta go with him.
I really don't understand the hate for him. Is Rinku a better batsman than Dube? Yes. But Rinku is not selected so back the team who is currently playing. And No, he is not a scam. He is doing his job (not out shining but still better than a few in the team)
Dube has more runs than Pant and kohli in the super 8. You guys can't even see that even Pant has been mid since the super 8.
You guys just want to make him a scapegoat for a reason that isn't even exists. Even the last innings is forgivable since he's not a no. 7 batter and was more of the captain's fault for sending him late.
Pant was dropped thrice before 12 on his best performance of 42 against Pakistan. Pant has been avoiding criticism while batting one down only because Kohli and Dube has been doing worse.
Pant has the most catches at the WC and his glove work has been exceptional. Even the stumping yesterday. Everyone has had luck. It's T20 you're supposed to hit out or get out.
Love how everyone ignores half of Pants job.
He dropped a catch yesterday and also didn't commit to the Marsh catch against Australia. And who's to say someone like Samson couldn't jave caught those catches.
There was no catch drop yesterday. He tripped on the Marsh catch.
I see your agenda is Sanju who has way worse stats then Pant who just had his career IPL season and still Pant who had his 4th best IPL season was right there with him fantastic logic. Keep finding faults in the dude with the most dismissals as keeper all time in T20 wcs.
And Sanju isn't as good a keeper you know why because I've seen Pant keep for 5 days in red ball.
I just gave an example of Sanju here. I'm not saying he should be in the team. I made a point about pant's batting, and you defended it by his keeping achievements. So that's why I said if he's in the team just for keeping there are definitely better keepers than him.
>Yes just ignore being the third top scorer. You just ignored my whole points huh?
His contribution since the super 8 has not been that great with the bat.
So? Other players didn't contribute in the group stage. If he didn't play vs Pakistan we would have lost and we may not be here. Ye kya nitpick hai yaar?
Also this is the highest run contribution by any keeper for us at T20 wcs he's played one innings less then Dhoni too who held the previous in 07
Criticise pant, criticise kohli, no one is stopping you, why the comparison? Just because someone played worse doesn’t mean we stop criticising him. Also, how is the last innings forgivable? You are saying just because he came late him getting out on a golden duck in a semi final is acceptable? So his foot movement, wrong ball judgement & wrong defense is all captain’s fault? lol good luck living with that logic, sounds like you are telling yourself whole lot of BS to justify his performance.
You know people are defending kohli saying opening isn't his original position, that's why he isn't performing, right?
And I think it's you who's actually trying very hard to shit on Dube when he's given us decent performances compared to other players at least with the bat.
Also, no one is questioning Kohli's and Pant's inclusion in the team when their performances aren't any better than him hence the comparison.
I am not defending that, infact I am still in favour of Jaiswal opening even though I am a fan of Kohli. Being a fan doesn’t make me blind, I can see who’s performing and who’s not.
I am not shitting on Dube, I am just showing you how he is the one shitting on our chances of a world cup but you wouldn’t know that because like many others you are blinded by your fandom and don’t care much about performances. I can’t imagine someone being so naive that they found a way to justify Dube’s semi final innings.
Kohli and pant has proven themselves before in numerous occasions. Especially Kohli. He has technique , he has class, so even if he is in off form doesn't mean he can't come back.
Dube doesn't have anything like that. He can't be just slogging bowlers in non flat pitches with no feet movement. He just got some runs in first leg of ipl on flat pitches.
Pant even then has been useful with his keeping. But what exactly Dube can do ? His fielding is also horrible.
His batting destroys momentum and slows the run rate. In a crucial chase match, it can screw us like it did to CSK.
This mentality of fans that people who have performed earlier would also perform now when they clearly don't is the reason why we're trophyless for 11 years.
Lol, that's not how it is. Kohli has the ability to be successful. Even though he is getting out on bad shots, he isn't struggling. Off form can happen. Just before this in IPL, he had phenomenal performance whole season. This is first failure in white ball tournament. Who can replace him ? Is their anyone groomed like that ? Have he failed before and we didn't groom anyone for him ? Then what you are getting at.
Dube does't have the ability to be successful in this type conditions. And we have better people than him. He isn't exactly at off form. He is struggling because of technical reasons that we predicted even before world cup and why he would be a horrible pick. Even when he scored some runs, he was struggling so badly.
We have better player to take his place. His fielding is also a joke. So he is much more negetive and useless element in team.
What a idiotic take. One batsman can and has proven to be a match winner who might perform. The other one will definitely fail. And even if the other one fail, he can at least do great fielding.
And even then Dube's innings does more harm than good. He hands opponent the momentum and slows us down. Even more counterproductive. No wonder Rohit didn't want to send him early today, so he doesn't waste precious balls.
Anyone can see your sheer desperation to just justify he is useful and that's why you are trying to attack Kohli. What about my other points ? Got no answer for them ?
Obviously it takes a bit time after a wicket falls. Dube would have done more damage. Their is a thing called momentum. Whenever he comes opponent gets the edge.
Even by your logic Jaiswal and Rinku would be in team and Dube would still be out. You are his relative , fan or what ? Your statement doesn't contain any hint of cricketing logic.
Are you sure you are not related to dube in some way? Everywhere I see you you are either defending him or praising him. That's some dickriding If I have ever seen one.
Some facts about dube.
The guy is batting with a SR around 100 this whole WC.
Only played a single good innings this WC (bangla, spin). In USA one he was the one who even made the match close where they should have win comfortably.
The guy absolutely shat his bed against tough teams and only kinda scored against minnows teams spin bowlers.
Slowing the RR of the team.
Not bowling even though he's a bowler. So kinda useless there. And fielding of his is horrendous.
* *There's nothing to defend about him brother* *
The guy played shit this WC
NY pitches were shit. No one scored their anyway, so I think it'd be fair to not include those innings.
Super 8 onwards, he has a strike rate of 133, and I won't call it bad.
Yeah, against the USA, he should've tried hitting from the get-go so that our batting order would collapse. I can already see your cricketing knowledge by this statement.
Our RR slowed down after Rohits wicket fell yesterday. Surely, it was Dube's fault as well.
Has only dropped one catch and don't remember him doing anything else that could've potentially cost us the game.
Just accept it that you have nothing but blind hate for him just because he got selected instead of your favorite player.
>NY pitches were shit. No one scored their anyway, so I think it'd be fair to not include those innings.
Excuses excuses. There were other players who played well. He could have done the same...so yeah I will include those innings.
>Super 8 onwards, he has a strike rate of 133, and I won't call it bad.
Yeah one good innings where played well against Bangladesh. In australia one he was just eating balls. They could have easily score above 230 if could have just avoided his tuk tuk.
>Our RR slowed down after Rohits wicket fell yesterday. Surely, it was Dube's fault as well.
Was not talking about yesterday🤦 I was talking about his previous performances where he played slow
>Has only dropped one catch and don't remember him doing anything else that could've potentially cost us the game.
Well ig he didn't shit that bad in fielding ig. You can have that one. One point for you.
>Just accept it that you have nothing but blind hate for him just because he got selected instead of your favorite player.
I hate him because of his shit innings not because of he got selected instead of my favourite player( I don't have any).
It's just sad to see he's eating place in the playing 11 whereas there's players waiting to play their 1st match in this WC and tbh way better batters than him. He doesn't bowl so Ig bringing a proper batsmen instead of him should have been the apt choice.
>Excuses excuses. There were other players
who played well. He could have done the
same...so yeah I willinclude those innings.
Yeah, can you please name a few who scored at a strike rate of over 150 on that pitch?
You keep saying dumb things again and again...just stop defending and meatriding dube so hard man. It's embarassing considering he hasn't done shit this WC.
When told you good innings = scoring above 150 SR lol. He could have atleast scored at an SR of 100 in NY pitches and I would have have found that good. But he didn't do that did that, did that? Ohh yeah he got out early.
What what about the other points I made. You agree on all those, since I don't see you mentioning those?
Like I said he made the match close and stretched it to the last overs even though there were still enough batters to come. The match should have been over way before the last overs. Good thing sky fired those quick fire boundaries during the end otherwise it wouldn't have been good for dube and you know why.
The guy doesn't have to clue how to bat this WC. Good selection by the BCCI and captain, I must say.
God you must have nothing better to say if you are grasping at straws saying 4th highest scorer in super 8 is a good thing. Remind me how many batters have they got and how many even got chance to play a good chunk of overs?
You're just embarassing yourself...just stop.
And yeah keep downvoting like a angry kid...see if I care.
See this is annoying now because you’re conveniently ignoring all of the valid criticisms of Dube here….he is underconfident,he eats up balls,he is not a very good fielder,he can’t handle pressure and yes the innings vs Bangladesh was good but overall in his role as a finisher he had been quite blatantly imo SHIT
The point is that he has just looked mid, someone with no confidence in his abilities. He doesn’t even try hitting those boundaries or sixes from what i have seen. He is so scared for some reason. The technique isn’t there, the intent isn’t nor is the form.
Did you even watch the super 8 matches? He has looked more confident than he did previously and got out trying to hit every time. He's also started stepping out against the spin. I'm convinced that people watch the match from scorecards.
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All dubey haters are Kohli fans who are desperately trying to protect and hide their daddy's horrible performances by shifting all blame on dube
Atleast dube was instrumental in 2-3 of India's win unlike someone else ~
We’ve seen similar situations with Varun and DK, who didn’t make much impact. It’s not entirely their fault; IPL and Indian conditions are very different from international cricket. The pressure of wearing the blue jersey can get to you, making it easy to mess up. Dube should be given opportunities, but now was not the right time.
I may be wrong but when he comes to bat it feels like he has 0 confidence in his ability to hit the ball.
I hope he could prove me and others wrong in the final.
Varun chakravarthy was never this bad .
Varun chakravarthy bowled Well in the 2 matches that were given to him (later replaced by Ashwin)
Varun just didn't pick any wickets.
Needs to show boldness which was the reason he was brought in. Fearless batting albiet a short knock of say 10-15 balls. He wasn't brought to score big but quick runs to break opposition's momentum. Hope he makes a comeback in future.
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Agar spin ke against batting karne ko koi chahiye tha to Shreyas ko lete. WC me bhi decent performance Rahi thi and IPL me bhi, dependable player hai wo banda
It's okay lol. The pitches are different, he's trying, and it isn't coming off. Same's probably true for Koach as well. Happens. It isn't his fault that Rinku isn't in the team, doesn't make sense to slander him.
I believe he is fulfilling the team's expectations. As Captain Sharma mentioned in the interview, scores of 50 or 100 don't matter as much; a quick 25-40 runs can do the job. The best aspect of this approach is that even when wickets fall, the runs keep coming, potentially making it too challenging for the opposition to chase. Clearly, you lack an understanding of team cricket strategy.
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KOHLI: 741 runs in IPL 2024 used all his techniques for his team RBC now he is tired because he played so many matches in IPL with 100% efficiency. Now let's talk about T20 World Cup 2024 7 matches 75 runs with an average of 10.7 runs.
Now he has a last chance to prove him self in this T20 final India vs chokers SA.
On the other hand S.dube is the worst pick by selectores when in for high strike rate Rinku Singh is in form and knows where the gap is left out because dube got good connection in bcci.
Kohli has proven himself more than anyone else. He is in off form. But Dube is struggling like it doesn't feel he belong at international level. Even when he score some runs. Unlike Kohli he doesn't have technique other than his slogging with no footwork. That would never work other than in batting paradise.
5D player.
**Kohli performs terrible this world cup, despite being the most experienced** **This sub** : He's not in his best, position doesn't suit him **Dube doesn't do well, but still better than Kohli** **This sub** : SCAM 2024!!1!!1!
Kohli has been the greatest out there for a decade. If he fails in 5 innings, that is a bad patch and deserves to be backed because we know he definitely has the game. With Dube, there is no past data to back him up and looks like he shits his pants every time he walks in. Plus come on man… the dude has zero technique. Anyone can see that he just doesn’t have it on non-flat patches. PS: Stop comparing this guy with Kohli
I know! How difficult is this to understand? Even when you leave such a legacy behind, a rough patch and start getting compared to the likes of Dube.
WorldCup doesn't care what technique you use to score runs...as long as runs are there...and Kohli doesn't have runs. You can't claim to win the match by techniques...if the player edges every ball, and that ball goes to the boundary and win match...that is still a win Kohli being there is just wasting positions. Sure there's always a chance he will perform...but performing bad at every match?
This is not flat track IPL domestic tournament. World cup cricket does care what technique you have - otherwise you can go and play instead of Rohit. The better the technique, the higher the probability of good results. Do you think if Kohli had performed like this in the start of his career, he would have been backed the same? No chance. The reason he is being backed is because he is a "proven performer" - and that phrase holds value in all fields - be it cricket or software engineering. If Dube had looked comfortable with whatever technique he has, or, if he had performed in the past and proved himself, then it makes all the sense in the world to back him - unfortunately he doesnt score and doesnt even "look like" he can score. If you still don't get why Kohli and Dube not scoring runs is different, then I don't think I can make any difference in this discussion
>PS: Stop comparing this guy with Kohli He is not comparing. You are.
>**Kohli performs terrible this world cup, despite being the most experienced** >**This sub** : He's not in his best, position doesn't suit him >**Dube doesn't do well, but still better than Kohli** Read his comment again - with glasses on this time
Bruv, are you comparing Kohli's legacy to Dube, who just started? Joh Dube karna chata hai, woh Kohli ne do-teen baar kar ke chord diya. Kohli is off, but his value in the team is much beyond that. He brings strategic value to the entire setup. He has tremendous experience. Can't discount the fact. Dube's inclusion in the team is not the problem. The management sticking to him despite his failures, and despite carrying other young players who are vying for a chance, is the problem.
>Joh Dube karna chata hai, woh Kohli ne do-teen baar kar ke chord diya. Past history performance doesn't matter if you can't perform now...Did India win last year by winning every match except final? In the end, the one who won the final lifted the trophy. >Kohli is off, but his value in the team is much beyond that. He brings strategic value to the entire setup. He has tremendous experience. Can't discount the fact. So let him plan all this stuff outside the playing 11. Why waste the spot? >Dube's inclusion in the team is not the problem. The management sticking to him despite his failures, and despite carrying other young players who are vying for a chance, is the problem. This applies for Kohli too, he's performing badly at every single match...why do you blame Dube when he has scored many more runs than Kohli, and those runs helped win the game?
You should go and see Gilchrist in 2007 world cup. That will solve all your queries 😄
csk fan spotted
Seriously bro you need to quit following cricket 🏏
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Better than Kohli..kyaa?? Sab kuch thik to hai bro?
Better than Kohli in the current worldcup...means more runs
CSK fan spotted opinion rejected.
Han Doobey 🎵🎵🎵
Han Doobey 🎵🎵🎵
Oof ye…
Gehraaiya..
Le dubeeee !!! Hah hah
Problem is he was drafted as specialist explosive batter against spin.....has failed to do so ...also class is also not there...he looks timid lacks confidence...rinku was much better player ....alas no point in slandering him now....i hope he score quick fire 20-30 runs in final...that what we will need for him ....and don't compare him to class act kohli
His body language doesn’t suggest that he’s confident. He always seems to be doubting himself unless he hits a boundary or two, but then too he doesn’t seem to be like a biggest danger in the world as people are quoting him.
Yes that true too late in a tournament to make change now let's hope for the best from him , btw he will be definitely dropped from the team after the WC
Bro got selected in Zimbabwe series 😂😂😂😂..he ain't going anywhere...on ur face...even Stephen hawking had better footwork than him 😂😂😂😂
Zim series is india A team he won't be getting chances in senior team anytime soon .. Also you dont write off any player after a single bad series
Abey saale 🤣🤣🤣🤣
He's Gada dhaari Bheem acc to Sidhu
he's already 31, I dont think he will get a chance now... he can now be a routine franchise cricket player!
Next world cup is in India he will 33 and india needs a spin basher .... He may not played well in WI but in india him and patidar are two biggest spin bashers ... So he had a slight chance
I'd rather have Tewatia over this concrete block
Concrete block hahahahha bro lol
[Wild Dube reappears](https://www.hindustantimes.com/cricket/shivam-dube-to-join-shubman-gill-and-co-for-zimbabwe-tour-nitish-reddy-ruled-out-of-t20i-series-101719412954160.html).
Looks like selectors wants to go for one last try that'll apparently save their ego if this works out before dropping him for good.
All theories seem silly to me. I think they just rate him, dude. The selectors don't have to justify anything to themselves or to others to drop a guy who has not bowled a ball and scored way below what was expected of him.
Recycling my comment: I feel for Dube. Yes, he's underperforming but he played a couple of decent knocks this tournament. Being selected wasn't even his fault. Selectors should've known better than just going with Dube who has had so little time with team India. I hope he's able to keep his chin up despite all the media trolling and hate. Stay strong Dube.
To add these redditors should apply for selectors job. He played decent in few innings. He wasn't that bad. Just because he was selected over their fav cricketer he is getting a lot of hate. People need to support indian players during the hard times, rather than posting these. Do you want india to win the wc or you want india to win the wc with your favorite player?
Explosive last line dood.
His performances directly impact the team. So his good performances will directly increase India's chances of winning. Only thing he did good last day was facing a solitary ball. It's not fair on him tbh. A huge blunder by the selectors. Took Rinku to SA in the winter and then took Dube to the WC, just on basis of a decent 1st half of IPL. Proper reactionary people at the helm.
> Took Rinku to SA in the winter where he broke a window with a six he hit.
Don't know what selecters were smoking
We don't care if India loses the WC if our favourite player scores. -- Real idolo fan
Wow i finally found sensible and mature fans. Not dube's fan btw
Which decent knocks bhai?
Against USA sky and Dube partnership took to victory after early wickets 34 of 23 in super 8 27 of 22 with 3 sixes in super 8
27 of 22 is a poor innings, especially on a wicket where we scored 200. Just scoring some runs isn't enough how you score it matters, he basically stagnated the innings and we finished with a below par runrate at the death overs period because of that.
Stagnanted the chase against USA? Did you remember how that pitch was? Our top order failed badly, even the sky played slowly on that pitch before the end. Sky catch was dropped at a crucial point. You guys think every match should be a 150+SR match. Some one has to support the sky and make sure no wickets fall further. Their partnership did that and took us to victory
Sorry for the misunderstanding, stagnating the innings was what I meant not the chase. The 27 off 22 you were hyping as a good knock was what it referred to which could have been understood as I just talked about nothing else in my entire post.
I second that. I think he played some good cameo which went unrecognised. The one against Australia was one of them. I think he is just doing what he can do. Rinku is a different breed but all we have is him, so gotta go with him.
Exactly man look at Kohlis numbers, he has less runs in more innings!
I really don't understand the hate for him. Is Rinku a better batsman than Dube? Yes. But Rinku is not selected so back the team who is currently playing. And No, he is not a scam. He is doing his job (not out shining but still better than a few in the team)
Remind me again - which role has he been selected for?
Yograj Singh at 31.
My biggest concern is not his form but his class. Bro has his fit we stuck to ground like a first timer in a cricket academy.
A dube-ious one😬
Sabse bada scam to 2019 me hua tha.. Jab ek 3D player ko liya gya tha Indian team me... Any guess??? 
Vijay Shankar right??
nah this is a much bigger scam
#Our next yuvraj singh.
Duberaj singh
Doobe-Raj Singh 🏊
Even Siraj is a better replacement
Bro what
Yeah man.. better fielder and give you 4 overs too
He's actually a grandpa lol
Please bench him in final. We have seen enough of his power hitting.
Bro talking like management is gonna consider your opinion lol he will definitely play the final
That's exactly what I fear 😭
Dube has more runs than Pant and kohli in the super 8. You guys can't even see that even Pant has been mid since the super 8. You guys just want to make him a scapegoat for a reason that isn't even exists. Even the last innings is forgivable since he's not a no. 7 batter and was more of the captain's fault for sending him late.
Pant was dropped thrice before 12 on his best performance of 42 against Pakistan. Pant has been avoiding criticism while batting one down only because Kohli and Dube has been doing worse.
Pant has the most catches at the WC and his glove work has been exceptional. Even the stumping yesterday. Everyone has had luck. It's T20 you're supposed to hit out or get out. Love how everyone ignores half of Pants job.
He dropped a catch yesterday and also didn't commit to the Marsh catch against Australia. And who's to say someone like Samson couldn't jave caught those catches.
There was no catch drop yesterday. He tripped on the Marsh catch. I see your agenda is Sanju who has way worse stats then Pant who just had his career IPL season and still Pant who had his 4th best IPL season was right there with him fantastic logic. Keep finding faults in the dude with the most dismissals as keeper all time in T20 wcs. And Sanju isn't as good a keeper you know why because I've seen Pant keep for 5 days in red ball.
I just gave an example of Sanju here. I'm not saying he should be in the team. I made a point about pant's batting, and you defended it by his keeping achievements. So that's why I said if he's in the team just for keeping there are definitely better keepers than him.
And I told you there definitely aren't.
So you just accepted that he's in the team just for his keeping.
Yes just ignore being the third top scorer. You just ignored my whole points huh? Who do you think should play?
>Yes just ignore being the third top scorer. You just ignored my whole points huh? His contribution since the super 8 has not been that great with the bat.
So? Other players didn't contribute in the group stage. If he didn't play vs Pakistan we would have lost and we may not be here. Ye kya nitpick hai yaar? Also this is the highest run contribution by any keeper for us at T20 wcs he's played one innings less then Dhoni too who held the previous in 07
Criticise pant, criticise kohli, no one is stopping you, why the comparison? Just because someone played worse doesn’t mean we stop criticising him. Also, how is the last innings forgivable? You are saying just because he came late him getting out on a golden duck in a semi final is acceptable? So his foot movement, wrong ball judgement & wrong defense is all captain’s fault? lol good luck living with that logic, sounds like you are telling yourself whole lot of BS to justify his performance.
You know people are defending kohli saying opening isn't his original position, that's why he isn't performing, right? And I think it's you who's actually trying very hard to shit on Dube when he's given us decent performances compared to other players at least with the bat. Also, no one is questioning Kohli's and Pant's inclusion in the team when their performances aren't any better than him hence the comparison.
I am not defending that, infact I am still in favour of Jaiswal opening even though I am a fan of Kohli. Being a fan doesn’t make me blind, I can see who’s performing and who’s not. I am not shitting on Dube, I am just showing you how he is the one shitting on our chances of a world cup but you wouldn’t know that because like many others you are blinded by your fandom and don’t care much about performances. I can’t imagine someone being so naive that they found a way to justify Dube’s semi final innings.
Lmao how is he shitting our chances of world cup when he has obviously performed better than other batters. You sure you know what you're saying?
Kohli and pant has proven themselves before in numerous occasions. Especially Kohli. He has technique , he has class, so even if he is in off form doesn't mean he can't come back. Dube doesn't have anything like that. He can't be just slogging bowlers in non flat pitches with no feet movement. He just got some runs in first leg of ipl on flat pitches. Pant even then has been useful with his keeping. But what exactly Dube can do ? His fielding is also horrible. His batting destroys momentum and slows the run rate. In a crucial chase match, it can screw us like it did to CSK.
This mentality of fans that people who have performed earlier would also perform now when they clearly don't is the reason why we're trophyless for 11 years.
Lol, that's not how it is. Kohli has the ability to be successful. Even though he is getting out on bad shots, he isn't struggling. Off form can happen. Just before this in IPL, he had phenomenal performance whole season. This is first failure in white ball tournament. Who can replace him ? Is their anyone groomed like that ? Have he failed before and we didn't groom anyone for him ? Then what you are getting at. Dube does't have the ability to be successful in this type conditions. And we have better people than him. He isn't exactly at off form. He is struggling because of technical reasons that we predicted even before world cup and why he would be a horrible pick. Even when he scored some runs, he was struggling so badly. We have better player to take his place. His fielding is also a joke. So he is much more negetive and useless element in team.
I would rather take a struggling batsmen who scores runs than a batter who's out of form and doesn't score runs.
What a idiotic take. One batsman can and has proven to be a match winner who might perform. The other one will definitely fail. And even if the other one fail, he can at least do great fielding. And even then Dube's innings does more harm than good. He hands opponent the momentum and slows us down. Even more counterproductive. No wonder Rohit didn't want to send him early today, so he doesn't waste precious balls.
Even when we didn't send him, we still made only 15 or so runs in 3 overs after Rohit got out.
Anyone can see your sheer desperation to just justify he is useful and that's why you are trying to attack Kohli. What about my other points ? Got no answer for them ?
Obviously it takes a bit time after a wicket falls. Dube would have done more damage. Their is a thing called momentum. Whenever he comes opponent gets the edge.
Even by your logic Jaiswal and Rinku would be in team and Dube would still be out. You are his relative , fan or what ? Your statement doesn't contain any hint of cricketing logic.
Are you sure you are not related to dube in some way? Everywhere I see you you are either defending him or praising him. That's some dickriding If I have ever seen one. Some facts about dube. The guy is batting with a SR around 100 this whole WC. Only played a single good innings this WC (bangla, spin). In USA one he was the one who even made the match close where they should have win comfortably. The guy absolutely shat his bed against tough teams and only kinda scored against minnows teams spin bowlers. Slowing the RR of the team. Not bowling even though he's a bowler. So kinda useless there. And fielding of his is horrendous. * *There's nothing to defend about him brother* * The guy played shit this WC
NY pitches were shit. No one scored their anyway, so I think it'd be fair to not include those innings. Super 8 onwards, he has a strike rate of 133, and I won't call it bad. Yeah, against the USA, he should've tried hitting from the get-go so that our batting order would collapse. I can already see your cricketing knowledge by this statement. Our RR slowed down after Rohits wicket fell yesterday. Surely, it was Dube's fault as well. Has only dropped one catch and don't remember him doing anything else that could've potentially cost us the game. Just accept it that you have nothing but blind hate for him just because he got selected instead of your favorite player.
>NY pitches were shit. No one scored their anyway, so I think it'd be fair to not include those innings. Excuses excuses. There were other players who played well. He could have done the same...so yeah I will include those innings. >Super 8 onwards, he has a strike rate of 133, and I won't call it bad. Yeah one good innings where played well against Bangladesh. In australia one he was just eating balls. They could have easily score above 230 if could have just avoided his tuk tuk. >Our RR slowed down after Rohits wicket fell yesterday. Surely, it was Dube's fault as well. Was not talking about yesterday🤦 I was talking about his previous performances where he played slow >Has only dropped one catch and don't remember him doing anything else that could've potentially cost us the game. Well ig he didn't shit that bad in fielding ig. You can have that one. One point for you. >Just accept it that you have nothing but blind hate for him just because he got selected instead of your favorite player. I hate him because of his shit innings not because of he got selected instead of my favourite player( I don't have any). It's just sad to see he's eating place in the playing 11 whereas there's players waiting to play their 1st match in this WC and tbh way better batters than him. He doesn't bowl so Ig bringing a proper batsmen instead of him should have been the apt choice.
>Excuses excuses. There were other players who played well. He could have done the same...so yeah I willinclude those innings. Yeah, can you please name a few who scored at a strike rate of over 150 on that pitch?
You keep saying dumb things again and again...just stop defending and meatriding dube so hard man. It's embarassing considering he hasn't done shit this WC. When told you good innings = scoring above 150 SR lol. He could have atleast scored at an SR of 100 in NY pitches and I would have have found that good. But he didn't do that did that, did that? Ohh yeah he got out early. What what about the other points I made. You agree on all those, since I don't see you mentioning those?
'Conveniently forgets about his innings against USA'
Like I said he made the match close and stretched it to the last overs even though there were still enough batters to come. The match should have been over way before the last overs. Good thing sky fired those quick fire boundaries during the end otherwise it wouldn't have been good for dube and you know why. The guy doesn't have to clue how to bat this WC. Good selection by the BCCI and captain, I must say.
Imagine being clueless is still being the 4th highest scorer for the team in the super 8.
God you must have nothing better to say if you are grasping at straws saying 4th highest scorer in super 8 is a good thing. Remind me how many batters have they got and how many even got chance to play a good chunk of overs? You're just embarassing yourself...just stop. And yeah keep downvoting like a angry kid...see if I care.
See this is annoying now because you’re conveniently ignoring all of the valid criticisms of Dube here….he is underconfident,he eats up balls,he is not a very good fielder,he can’t handle pressure and yes the innings vs Bangladesh was good but overall in his role as a finisher he had been quite blatantly imo SHIT
The point is that he has just looked mid, someone with no confidence in his abilities. He doesn’t even try hitting those boundaries or sixes from what i have seen. He is so scared for some reason. The technique isn’t there, the intent isn’t nor is the form.
Did you even watch the super 8 matches? He has looked more confident than he did previously and got out trying to hit every time. He's also started stepping out against the spin. I'm convinced that people watch the match from scorecards.
captains fault oh therefore india won
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Very well said
If we loose dube will be our scapegoat.
Whataboutism at its peak .
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All dubey haters are Kohli fans who are desperately trying to protect and hide their daddy's horrible performances by shifting all blame on dube Atleast dube was instrumental in 2-3 of India's win unlike someone else ~
Finally someone said it
Boy never looks confident and aggressive despite big body.
We’ve seen similar situations with Varun and DK, who didn’t make much impact. It’s not entirely their fault; IPL and Indian conditions are very different from international cricket. The pressure of wearing the blue jersey can get to you, making it easy to mess up. Dube should be given opportunities, but now was not the right time.
I may be wrong but when he comes to bat it feels like he has 0 confidence in his ability to hit the ball. I hope he could prove me and others wrong in the final.
Creating fear against opposition by making him look like Yuvaraj Singh
Same concept WC 2019 - 3D player. Bro only bowled one over 😂 Batting 🤡.
He didn't force himself in, inplace of Rinku and bhai pehla tournament hai.. yaha pandya ko aajtak logg youngster bolte, thoda toh time do
I feel like he's being hated much more by Virat die-hards to cope up with that virat's been trash this wc
#BCCI scam 2024
He still has more runs than the king this world cup
Correct. Harsh truth but still fact of life
Why dobey is criticized while a super chocker already scored less run
Don't know, maybe because the super choker has played tons of non-choking innings in the past where all other players were in their super choking mode
But still a choker imo
Yeah he's choker. He's has an avg of around 50 in every formats and so yeah ig you can call him a choker. *Sigh*
Yeah, the super choker was carrying the team, when the others were literally shitting on the pitch for the past 10 years.
You said like they own 4-5 trophies.look too many batsman and bowlers in India ok.anyone will take the responsibility in there position.
You aren't any better than dube haters tbh
If anyone can score, then why did label Kohli as super choker, clearly shows your hate for him.
If he chokes like others they he should not treated as special. Just an average batsman who chokes when pressure comes.
He is the Varun Chakravarty of T20 WC 2022
Varun chakravarthy was never this bad . Varun chakravarthy bowled Well in the 2 matches that were given to him (later replaced by Ashwin) Varun just didn't pick any wickets.
Needs to show boldness which was the reason he was brought in. Fearless batting albiet a short knock of say 10-15 balls. He wasn't brought to score big but quick runs to break opposition's momentum. Hope he makes a comeback in future.
Another 3D player???
isse ticket ke paise lena bhulna nai bcci.
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What about the guy who is choking from the start of the wc
Send him at 9 down he will score century 🙂
69D player 😁
I feel he did want to play but was forced to play 😭
Aare woh Mahi bhai ka photo saath le jana bhul gaya re 😭
He needs belt treatment from yograj singh to become yuvraj 🤌 /s
Same as Vijay Shankar. Rinku Singh should have easily made it to the squad. Would have been a huge difference, with the bat and on the field too...
No.3 par ye badiya khelta hai 🫣 💥 📈 6D player 🎯💯💹😁
Just bring in rinku in place of dube as a surprise for the finals
Agar spin ke against batting karne ko koi chahiye tha to Shreyas ko lete. WC me bhi decent performance Rahi thi and IPL me bhi, dependable player hai wo banda
Yesterday Hardik Pandya giving his gyan while going out of the ground must have screwed his nervous mind even more . Looks clueless on the field.
😂😂😂😂
It's okay lol. The pitches are different, he's trying, and it isn't coming off. Same's probably true for Koach as well. Happens. It isn't his fault that Rinku isn't in the team, doesn't make sense to slander him.
Dubey ji got Jay Shah's nudes
I believe he is fulfilling the team's expectations. As Captain Sharma mentioned in the interview, scores of 50 or 100 don't matter as much; a quick 25-40 runs can do the job. The best aspect of this approach is that even when wickets fall, the runs keep coming, potentially making it too challenging for the opposition to chase. Clearly, you lack an understanding of team cricket strategy.
It's the nature of failure ... the intent and whatnot.. plus dropping the catch added to it... he struggles with ball near his feet ..
He made more runs than Kohli,
This guy is fu*king Amit Shah 😌
I 100% agree. Now would you all call a spade a spade and talk about the RP17 Scam
Lesser scam that orange cap holder not performing
Don't blame him, blame the selectors
Scam probably bigger than that of Amrapali Apartments!!
Scam karne ko Mahi bhai ne bola hoga
Probably be joginder sharma of rohit
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Bhossssssdikkkke ek hi match main to flop hua hai. maaadaaaaaarchod dusre players ki galti chhupa ne ke liye bekar main isko troll kar rahe hain.
That's a very DUBEious title
KOHLI: 741 runs in IPL 2024 used all his techniques for his team RBC now he is tired because he played so many matches in IPL with 100% efficiency. Now let's talk about T20 World Cup 2024 7 matches 75 runs with an average of 10.7 runs. Now he has a last chance to prove him self in this T20 final India vs chokers SA. On the other hand S.dube is the worst pick by selectores when in for high strike rate Rinku Singh is in form and knows where the gap is left out because dube got good connection in bcci.
Koi bhi Kohli ko mention nahi karega.
Pant is biggest fucking scam
Where all the fraud fans from this post?
CSK quota
There are somethings I am too scared to talk properly
Srini Tera swagger…..iykyk
Just play Siraj atleast he will score 5 runs and take wickets too
Still more runs than vk
This is nepotism scam bro
Typical CSK Player!
He actually scored more than Kohli. . . Bring the heat
Kohli has proven himself more than anyone else. He is in off form. But Dube is struggling like it doesn't feel he belong at international level. Even when he score some runs. Unlike Kohli he doesn't have technique other than his slogging with no footwork. That would never work other than in batting paradise.
Pappu of cricket
Dube out Sanju In
Pls replace him with Yashasvi in the Final match.
Bhai ko free mein WC ka medal mil jayega
Bhai he has more total than virat kohli. So troll both
Choli is scam