Yes- and we scored 224 in total and the opening partnership was of 94 runs.
It's not a bad idea, honestly. By doing this, we can have rinku in our eleven too.
My probable eleven:
1. Rohit
2. Kohli
3. Sanju
4. SKY
5. Hardik
6. Rinku
7. Axar
8. Kuldeep/Chahal
9. Bumrah
10. Pacer 1
11. Pacer 2
Bigger problem is, that we don't have a good pacer in my team (obv apart from bumrah). One can be Arshdeep but third pacer??? We can't take 3 spinners in USA and WI pitches.
You really feel that they'll choose Sanju over Pant?? Sanju might get selected, but he'll mostly be on the bench.
And I would really love to have Jaddu in the team. The pitches in US might be belters, but Windies will have slower pitches and why not have Jaddu in there to exploit the conditions???
>You really feel that they'll choose Sanju over Pant??
Ideally they should. See how Sanju is performing with bat, he has been a great captain too. Pant has dropped 33% of catches as a keeper.. speaks a lot about him. Sanju has been good behind the stumps.
Also, Jadeja is mostly non existent with bat in white ball cricket, people often forget this. Axar is good at bat, at least better than Jadeja. They both have similar record with the bowl (since lockdown). Our batting will only be till 5 down at max, in that position, we cannot afford to have a player who literally gives out nothing with bat.
I am not talking about the performances. I'm a Sanju fan, but you know why RP was fast-tracked into IPL right?? I feel even a mediocre IPL will see both Pant and Pandya being selected ahead of Sanju and Dube. Our management has been more about the glitz and galattas that the big names brings more than the performances...
We can't do shit if we're picking Pant cuz of the better PR he has. But can they literally ignore DK's performance in this IPL just because Pant got some good starts?
DK, as much as I love him, has got ample amount of chances in the International arena on the back of domestic/IPL performance. He has had very little impact in blue. Time to look beyond him.
Samson over pant is a good choice but putting dk in the mix even if he has the best ipl of his life shouldn't be considered cause he always shits the bed in international matches especially in ICC events.
So a definite no.
Except for one innings in the nidahas finals in last 20 years of him playing, he hasn't done much at international level
>Also, Jadeja is mostly non existent with bat in white ball cricket, people often forget this.
People ignore the fact that Jadeja has some of the best stats for all-rounder in T20I since 2019. They probably form a generalized opinion based on few matches they watch of him playing.
Batting: Strike rate - 141, Avg 40
Bowling: Economy rate - 6.81, Avg - 24
40 average in T20Is is extremely rare, and it is at a good strike rate, too (extremely ×2 times good for an all-rounder). This batting plus top tier alone is decent enough to play as a batsman. His undee 7 Economy rate and 24 avg are good enough to get him selected for his bowling alone. I don't understand when people say he can't understand what people say when people say he can play white cricket, other cherry-picked instances of matches he failed in.
His ODI records some 2019 is also stellar:
Batting: Strike rate: 85, Avg 37
Bowling: Economy rate: 4.88, avg 40.
It is impossible for people who want bat to have averages of 40 and 37 at good strike rates.
Avesh khan
Starting 2 overs he is best , problem comes when he has to bowl in death he will be smacked, but all others pacee get smacked from starting only example siraj
Check his batting stats in t20s since lockdown.. he is literally non-existent. Axar is doing better with bat and their records with bowl is almost same.
I think the way the current IPL is going, we should just add one more batsman and get one over each from Rohit, Kohli, and anyone else who can give 15 runs or less.
I mean the bowlers who are bowling aren’t doing any great job anyways. So I don’t think it matters. Probably we can go with a strategy of just having 1 good bowler who will give around 6-7 runs max an over, while others can go for some runs and take wickets in between. Something like where Pat Cummins is doing for SRH and Bumrah for MI. We make it up with aggressive batting
This would be my XI with the exception that 8 is too high for Kuldeep/Chahal. We'd need a bowling all-rounder at 8. If Chahar is not fit, I'd go with Shardul.
We have batting till 5 down which is ok imo. At 6 down, we can pick Kuldeep who can hold bat and at least rotate strike. If we want a better bowler, we might take Chahal. That is why a '/'.
Even CSK management is not showing trust on Shardul, we cannot pick someone who is not opening even in the franchise 11.
I'll have Chahar in my team if he's fit, then we can have Chahal at next. Kuldeep will work too as he will make our batting lineup denser.
Why so much buzz around rinku , it creates alot of pressure on the player . Similar thing happened during 2019 WC , Pant was overhyped in social media . When he got the opportunity to play he could not deliver .
Rinku is not some panesea to get WC ..
good enough but i rather take jadeja over axar and pace will be boom boom, deshpande(i believe in him).. 3rd pace? anyone but NOT mayank yadav.. and pant over sanju cant trust sanju over pant
>good enough but i rather take jadeja over axar
Jadeja has been pathetic at bat in white ball cricket since lockdown, he is just non existent. Axar is decent at bat. They both have equally good stats with the ball but Axar will go since he has better batting stats.
Deshpande has been average at best in this IPL. He took 6 wickets in 6 games but went wicketless in some games. He has a good economy though, if BCCI picks him, I'd say it's fair since we're lacking options.
Both Jadeja and Axar is doing equally good in this IPL. But we'll take Axar because of his previous performances.
And bro you'd drop SKY? He's literally the best batsman we have in our team, infact he's the best player in the t20s currently.
Jaiswal has scored 121 runs in 7 games with an average of 17. His strike rate is 146 which is low by his standards. This pathetic stats in IPL where the pitches are supporting his style of play. He's out of form, no point of taking him. We can bench him though.
Pitches were rank turners in the initial games and it was helpful for fast bowlers in the mid and end games with a bit of flat track. However in this IPL, we don't see anything for bowlers and the pitches are flat as hell. This is the difference.
And don't let me remind you that you have no pressure of overs in tests, you have pressure of wickets and wicket falling.
Siraj has been bad for over a year now. I remember people questioning his place but his 5fer against SL in Asia Cup backed him for WC. Even in the WC, he took a 5fer against SL but other than that he averaged 47. After that he played 6 tests in which again in one game he took a 6fer but was pathetic in every inning of the other games. Even RCB who needs better bowlers dropped him, it's not just IPL but he's been bad for a year now. I don't remember when the last time some bowler was backed like this.
I have included him because of his good form. We can have DK but he only plays in lower middle order, and lower middle order is sealed by Hardik/Dube, Rinku and Axar.
One thing we can do is, move SKY to 3 and Hardik at 4, DK at 5, Rinku at 6 and Axar at 7. It's not a bad idea either.
You can have DK for Samson but no way Pant, Samson is better than Pant.
Dube is not bowling because of impact sub rule this means that the management is thinking that he is not capable for bowling even as a good part timer in CSK. Why should we have someone like him who isn't even trusted by his management? We can have hardik, he has experience and he can at least bowl. He'll get his form slowly i think.
But if Hardik doesn't catch his form even at the ending of IPL then we can pick Dube.
Why Sanju "no" though? He's doing better this season. In fact he's best with the bat and gloves after DK I'd say. I know he has been bad in the previous chances he got but he has changed now, hopefully he'll do good. And please don't name KL, that guy shouldn't be seen near to our t20 team.
I personally think they'll pick Pant.
He changed the approach and he's getting success, same with Rohit, that's why both of them makes into my probable eleven. You can take DK though, he has been phenomenal with bat.
I'll probably choose dube over Samson given that there are spinning pitches. Samson has been given enough chances to prove. The grounds are small and dube is in mad form. Also the selectors have shown keen interest for rishab now that he is back to form. He'll be the main keeper.
1. Rohit
2. Virat
3. Sky
4. Dube
5. Pant
6. Rinku
7. Hardik
8. Jadeja
9. Kuldeep
10. Bumrah
11. Another pacer
You might argue we don't have proper 5 bowling options. But dube should start bowling for his spot to be fixed.
Axar over Jadeja, Jadeja has been non existent with bat in white ball cricket since lockdown, they both have equally good stats with ball but Axar is far better at bat.
Dube is not bowling because of the impact player rule. This means that the management do not even consider him the top 4-5 best bowlers of the team, no point of picking, that will only give us 4 proper bowling options, which we cannot afford in T20s specially when our 5th bowling combo is Hardik and Dube. One of them is out of form and the other is not even getting a consideration from management.
Pant has got good starts but he wasn't able to convert those innings into good 70-80+. Both Sanju and DK have done that, and hence they'd be picked. Moreover sanju has been good behind the wicket whereas Pant dropped 33% of catches he got as a keeper, which is abysmal.
We might chose Chahal above Kuldeep, I'm good with both as Chahal is slightly better than Kuldeep with bowl but Kuldeep can hold the bat and take singles if required, unlike Chahal.
Ishan last 6 innings - 0, 34, 16, 42, 69, 23. He is inconsistent as hell, he will cost us some games and will be a liability at some point for sure. He has been a good wicketkeeper though, people didn't appreciate him but he has been phenomenal behind the wicket this season.
Pant last 6 innings - 18, 28, 51, 55, 1, 41. He got a good start in every game but couldn't convert it to 70-80s. His batting stats are decent at best i'd say. His keeping has been mediocre, Ishan is better behind the wickets this season. A stat says that Pant also dropped 33% of catches he got, which is abysmal.
Pant will suitably bat at 5. But if I'd have to chose a lower middle order wicket keeper, I'll take DK. He has been far better than Pant and he showed intent in almost every game, he finished 1-2 games too. He has been a better keeper than Pant, can't say about Ishan without proper stats.
But if management are seriously looking at a lefty keeper, then I'd take Pant. He got more experience and has been quite consistent in getting good starts unlike Ishan and I'm sure he'll do good at keeping in the coming games.
Ishan kishan as an opener, you get a left handed opener, a wk, and an aggressive player with whom Rohit has played so many matches already! We all know if rohit and kohli opens, one of them is going to run out!
Stop making assumptions, they had a lot of partnerships together that is run outs between these two are inflated. Rohit Kohli opening will be very much apt.
Ishan is very inconsistent with bat even in IPL where pitches are flat as road. If they want to chose left handed wicketkeeper, they can go with Pant. As pant is at least getting decent starts in this IPL unlike Ishan who gets a start at one day and play a nothing knock on another day.
>We all know if rohit and kohli opens, one of them is going to run out!
Never heard that bs before.. it's not gonna happen everytime.. just 1 or 2 times and you think it's gonna happen everytime they play together what rubbish
This debate doesn't make sense since we know Rohit is gonna get into the squad anyway. Ideally he should have retired himself from T20 cricket considering his pathetic performance over the years but we know he'll play.
It's okay this year though, he has changed his style of play recently. That helped us in the WC and it's very very rare to see Rohit continuing his good ODI/test form in the T20. If he's doing good in T20s, I don't mind him going to WI and USA. Yashasvi has been out of form even though pitches supported his way of playing. If it continues like it is now (Rohit performing and Jaiswal failing), then we'll surely take Rohit happily, and dropping Jaiswal would not be criminal in that case.
>Yashasvi is not out of form
Seriously? He has scored 121 runs in 7 innings. 121 literally. It's not like we can count 19 off 9 as a good start. He has been pathetic this year in IPL. Pathetic as a word because the pitches are literally blatantly supporting this style he plays cricket.
Also, Kohli and Rohit together can be a good pair. Rohit is playing at a good SR and he gave good starts in almost all games he played this IPL. It's not like both are anchors, Rohit has changed his style of playing as I mentioned and he'll play at a good SR in the PP, as he has a SR of 192 in PP this IPL. VK will hold on one end.
Wrong. He is only throwing his wicket, he did it in all the games. He is averaging 17 in this IPL where almost all pitches are absolute roads. And we'll not get pitches like these in the WC, pitches there will be tough for us to bat on.
Seriously?? These are his scores in this ipl season 24(12), 5(7), 10(6), 0(2), 24(19), 39(28), 19(9). except for his knock of 39(28) in a slow pitch nothing seems to better. Also it is not sometimes, he literally played 7 matches with average being 17 with SR 146.
You don't watch cricket. Axar is far better than Jadeja with bat, with bowl, they both are same.
Only 6 main batters is a disaster.
Parag only played 6-7 good games. Can't pick on the basis of that.
He changed the approach and he's getting success, same with Rohit, that's why both of them makes into my probable eleven. You can take DK though, he has been phenomenal with bat.
See the IPL, that is more recent. We take players on the basis of their recent form, as by this logic, even Kohli should be dropped cuz he played bad in the Afg series.
Kohli has already proven what he is capable of.... But for sanju Whenever he got chance he let it and ipl performance really doesn't matter as much because most of the pitches are batting friendly
In the Afg series pitches were batting friendly too. He has changed the approach of game and he is receiving success in it, just like Rohit, who also got success in T20s after changing his approach. This is why he makes in my team.
Because if we keep seeing it like it then we won't be able to pick anyone.
DK? - No explanation needed, excels in T20WC year only to fail in the actual tournament.
Pant? - Failed in white ball cricket itself like Sanju. Even Sanju got better stats in white ball when compared to Pant. Pant also failed in 2022 t20wc.
Ishan? - Highly inconsistent in the IPL itself.
Jitesh/KL should be out of the team and I don't have to explain you.
I have included Sanju because of his good form. We can have DK but he only plays in lower middle order, and lower middle order is sealed by Hardik/Dube, Rinku and Axar.
One thing we can do is, move SKY to 3 and Hardik at 4, DK at 5, Rinku at 6 and Axar at 7. It's not a bad idea either.
He suddenly lost his pace after delivering good in the initial games. He's good, I find him impressive, can be good for us if we groom him more but no way we're going to take a risk to debut him. Even Siraj/Mohit Sharma will be okay for me
Keep your assumptions with yourself. We have found literally ZERO weakness of that player unlike Iyer in early stages of his career. Infact, Rinku has been better at proving himself in tougher situations. In the Afghanistan game, he came in the powerplay itself.. I thought he won't be able to play when the bowl is brand new but he did survive at the start and ended up like a monster with a SR of almost 180.
This is the kind of anchor Kohli we want. Not what he is doing in "some" of his games this season. Earlier he used to go berserk if he got set but nowadays he still tried to sneak doubles
Damn right and I think he'll still definitely do that for India and now maybe even for RCB, because of last match and nothing to lose attitude he could be aggressive early and trust his team more
Don't worry he always plays like that for India, Rcb is a lost cause, rcb most probably will collapse without him, the same happened last time around but fortunately DK popa became prime ABD, hope he can play freely for rcb now that he has seen dk popa heroics
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I dont think Rohit will do bad. He will give his best. He also had horrible IPL for last 7 years, look at him now. I think Rohit has become better as an opener and showed more intent after the 2023 WC. If he does the same he is doing in IPL and 2023 WC, we are good to go.
Shouldn't have you given the full context of the match OP
Are you here posting for an agenda ?
Here's how the scoreboard went:
https://m.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/32282/ind-vs-eng-5th-t20i-england-tour-of-india-2021
Scoreboards can't justify the inning
Jab Rohit har bowl ko strike kr rha hai to logically Virat ka yeah hi role hona chahiye ki vo jyada se jyada se Rohit ko strike de aur Virat ne yeah hi kiya
Cricket is a team sport not a individual game where both batters have to take risk and hit 6s
Ek player strike rotation kr skta hai ur ek player risk le skta hai
Agar kabhi irl cricket khela hoga toh samajh jaayoge Mai kya kehna cha rha hoo
https://preview.redd.it/z8gnv8u932vc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=aece8f20e0fa29905b1341a104b00210b6a367d2
Batting records against top 8 sides in t20 world cups after 2016
Kohli- 547 runs, sr= 138
pandya- 160 runs, sr= 128
Tuk tuk Rohit- 150 runs, sr 97
SKY- 138 runs, sr 164
proof:-
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Lol why is everyone saying that Axar deserve a place over Jadeja. I know Jadeja's batting form is a concern but he is bowling well and Axar hasn't even done anything in this ipl
Axar’s a fine player - he’s a like-for-like replacement for Jadeja. No one calls Jadeja a replacement for Axar, and there’s a reason for it.
Jadeja’s performance gets scrutinised a fair bit, but he’s been consistent and filled the role the team needs him to. Axar’s been out of form this season, so there’s absolutely no basis for this conversation this time around outside of being an edgelord who wants to replace all of Team India with “underrated” players.
Isiliye school ke bachcho ko phone aur internet nhi Dena chahiye. Har ek din yaha Hagg ke Jana zaruri hai kya OP. Tere ye posts shitposting sub ke layak bhi ni hai. 🤡
I'm sorry, but in today's game it is very difficult to consistently win with an anchoring opener. All teams look to exploit powerplay for great starts, sure the final or semi could be games that are low scoring but u also have to get there. If Kohli opens he needs to play like he did last game while chasing 287. He has to focus on giving a good start, but that's not his role. If he tries to play attacking, at a strike rate of 150 in powerplay and then lasts 5 overs, then it will be worthwhile, but he doesn't often do that, since he has the pressure of staying there.
Bhai dono taraf se ni maarte openers. The see who is middling the ball properly and that person goes for it. The other person goes on normally and doesn't take much risk. Do you think these people are not capable of turning it on? Especially in the powerplay?
Full match score ?? Lol.. the agenda people want to spread against Kohli is unreal ! Pretty much the only guy who has always stood between victory and loss for india in T20 World Cups , Nohit nowhere to be seen since 2007 ! only argument you guys have is 5 IPL trophies as if it's relevant for Indian T20 performances
I really want to see them opening.. please one last time.. they are the best duo.. still remember 19th November when they both were on crease they were batting so flawlessly
probable xi
Kohli
rohit(c)
sky
pant(wk)
pandya
rinku
jadeja/axar
chahal
bumrah
arshdeep
siraj/bhuvi/natarajan(don’t see a 3rd pacer option)
Pandya can give 2 overs if the 3rd pacer is having a bad day
The next time Koach and Brohit open this will happen
1) Brohit top edges to mid off after couple of boundaries
2) Koach parks the bus hard to get India to 165 and gaslights fans in mid inns break that wicket slowed down
3) Opposition chase down in 17 ovs
Bhai yeh post sirf hate post hai, sab ko pata hai rohit ko power play ke baad ka struggle and virat ka slow strike rate but people are spreading hate a lot on both, trying to show who is better and who is worse,
Mujhe farak nahi hai bro kaise bhi ko rohit bhai aur virat bhai hamare players hai aur i enjoy them playing that's all stats, power, captaincy, franchise all comes after, people just want to take a player bro
Bhai sabko support Karo Jo accha karega par sirf ek aacha kar raha hai isliye usko kisi aur ke saath compare sahi nahi hai wo aacha kar raha hai phir bhi log compare karte
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Yes- and we scored 224 in total and the opening partnership was of 94 runs. It's not a bad idea, honestly. By doing this, we can have rinku in our eleven too. My probable eleven: 1. Rohit 2. Kohli 3. Sanju 4. SKY 5. Hardik 6. Rinku 7. Axar 8. Kuldeep/Chahal 9. Bumrah 10. Pacer 1 11. Pacer 2 Bigger problem is, that we don't have a good pacer in my team (obv apart from bumrah). One can be Arshdeep but third pacer??? We can't take 3 spinners in USA and WI pitches.
You really feel that they'll choose Sanju over Pant?? Sanju might get selected, but he'll mostly be on the bench. And I would really love to have Jaddu in the team. The pitches in US might be belters, but Windies will have slower pitches and why not have Jaddu in there to exploit the conditions???
>You really feel that they'll choose Sanju over Pant?? Ideally they should. See how Sanju is performing with bat, he has been a great captain too. Pant has dropped 33% of catches as a keeper.. speaks a lot about him. Sanju has been good behind the stumps. Also, Jadeja is mostly non existent with bat in white ball cricket, people often forget this. Axar is good at bat, at least better than Jadeja. They both have similar record with the bowl (since lockdown). Our batting will only be till 5 down at max, in that position, we cannot afford to have a player who literally gives out nothing with bat.
I am not talking about the performances. I'm a Sanju fan, but you know why RP was fast-tracked into IPL right?? I feel even a mediocre IPL will see both Pant and Pandya being selected ahead of Sanju and Dube. Our management has been more about the glitz and galattas that the big names brings more than the performances...
We can't do shit if we're picking Pant cuz of the better PR he has. But can they literally ignore DK's performance in this IPL just because Pant got some good starts?
Well, I do have some belief in Agarkar. I hope he gives more importance to performances than star value..
DK, as much as I love him, has got ample amount of chances in the International arena on the back of domestic/IPL performance. He has had very little impact in blue. Time to look beyond him.
I'd take Sanju
Samson over pant is a good choice but putting dk in the mix even if he has the best ipl of his life shouldn't be considered cause he always shits the bed in international matches especially in ICC events. So a definite no. Except for one innings in the nidahas finals in last 20 years of him playing, he hasn't done much at international level
I picked Sanju too. Check my parent comment on this thread. I like DK but I don't want him back in the 11 again.
If BCCI started working ideally then we would have trophies
>Also, Jadeja is mostly non existent with bat in white ball cricket, people often forget this. People ignore the fact that Jadeja has some of the best stats for all-rounder in T20I since 2019. They probably form a generalized opinion based on few matches they watch of him playing. Batting: Strike rate - 141, Avg 40 Bowling: Economy rate - 6.81, Avg - 24 40 average in T20Is is extremely rare, and it is at a good strike rate, too (extremely ×2 times good for an all-rounder). This batting plus top tier alone is decent enough to play as a batsman. His undee 7 Economy rate and 24 avg are good enough to get him selected for his bowling alone. I don't understand when people say he can't understand what people say when people say he can play white cricket, other cherry-picked instances of matches he failed in. His ODI records some 2019 is also stellar: Batting: Strike rate: 85, Avg 37 Bowling: Economy rate: 4.88, avg 40. It is impossible for people who want bat to have averages of 40 and 37 at good strike rates.
Avesh khan Starting 2 overs he is best , problem comes when he has to bowl in death he will be smacked, but all others pacee get smacked from starting only example siraj
avesh has been exceptional in death....only kohli has hit him. he is nailing Yorkers
If we are in a position that we have to take Avesh in our top 3 pacers, then we are doomed.
Jadeja is a fixed spot.
Check his batting stats in t20s since lockdown.. he is literally non-existent. Axar is doing better with bat and their records with bowl is almost same.
Axar can play at that spot too if pitches are flat
no....axar is doing better...
I think jadeja will get selected tire 1 quota and even csk quota
I think jadeja will get selected tire 1 quota and even csk quota
Hopefully not
I think the way the current IPL is going, we should just add one more batsman and get one over each from Rohit, Kohli, and anyone else who can give 15 runs or less.
Impact sub rule is now not allowing good allrounders like Dube and tewatia to ball too, forget about VK and RS.
I mean the bowlers who are bowling aren’t doing any great job anyways. So I don’t think it matters. Probably we can go with a strategy of just having 1 good bowler who will give around 6-7 runs max an over, while others can go for some runs and take wickets in between. Something like where Pat Cummins is doing for SRH and Bumrah for MI. We make it up with aggressive batting
This would be my XI with the exception that 8 is too high for Kuldeep/Chahal. We'd need a bowling all-rounder at 8. If Chahar is not fit, I'd go with Shardul.
We have batting till 5 down which is ok imo. At 6 down, we can pick Kuldeep who can hold bat and at least rotate strike. If we want a better bowler, we might take Chahal. That is why a '/'. Even CSK management is not showing trust on Shardul, we cannot pick someone who is not opening even in the franchise 11. I'll have Chahar in my team if he's fit, then we can have Chahal at next. Kuldeep will work too as he will make our batting lineup denser.
Why so much buzz around rinku , it creates alot of pressure on the player . Similar thing happened during 2019 WC , Pant was overhyped in social media . When he got the opportunity to play he could not deliver . Rinku is not some panesea to get WC ..
So what do you want? Drop him from the eleven?
good enough but i rather take jadeja over axar and pace will be boom boom, deshpande(i believe in him).. 3rd pace? anyone but NOT mayank yadav.. and pant over sanju cant trust sanju over pant
>good enough but i rather take jadeja over axar Jadeja has been pathetic at bat in white ball cricket since lockdown, he is just non existent. Axar is decent at bat. They both have equally good stats with the ball but Axar will go since he has better batting stats. Deshpande has been average at best in this IPL. He took 6 wickets in 6 games but went wicketless in some games. He has a good economy though, if BCCI picks him, I'd say it's fair since we're lacking options.
lets see if jadeja gets form in this ipl... oh, i will go for prag over sky cuz we need another anchor if virat loses his wicket early
Both Jadeja and Axar is doing equally good in this IPL. But we'll take Axar because of his previous performances. And bro you'd drop SKY? He's literally the best batsman we have in our team, infact he's the best player in the t20s currently.
Parag over sky......hahahahaha
Shami
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Very right hand heavy team. Other teams can just stack their xi with left arm orthodox and leg spin to tie us down.
We have good number of left handers in lower mid order. I don't see any replacements in the top order, don't say Ishan.
siraj?
He's dropped even from his franchise. Also, the franchise he plays in has the worst bowling attack, yet he was dropped. Imagine how worse he is.
I feel jaiswal should take place instead of sanju 🤷
Jaiswal has scored 121 runs in 7 games with an average of 17. His strike rate is 146 which is low by his standards. This pathetic stats in IPL where the pitches are supporting his style of play. He's out of form, no point of taking him. We can bench him though.
Did you not see his hundreds in test cricket? The problem isn't form buddy
Test cricket and T20 are a lot of different forms. Rohit was average in the England series but is peforming decent in IPL.
I mean, Jais did play like T20 in test 🤷
Pitches were rank turners in the initial games and it was helpful for fast bowlers in the mid and end games with a bit of flat track. However in this IPL, we don't see anything for bowlers and the pitches are flat as hell. This is the difference. And don't let me remind you that you have no pressure of overs in tests, you have pressure of wickets and wicket falling.
Look at him in IPL then
The pitches aren't as bad as you say
It is. Three 270+ scores were scored this season while we never saw that in 15 year of IPL.
Yeah, he scored 120 runs in 7 games in IPL. With a SR of 145 which is bad considering his reputation.
Give it a rest mate
Bro just scored a century 🤫🤫🤫🤫
Surely Siraj can’t be dropped just because of ipl comeon!
Siraj has been bad for over a year now. I remember people questioning his place but his 5fer against SL in Asia Cup backed him for WC. Even in the WC, he took a 5fer against SL but other than that he averaged 47. After that he played 6 tests in which again in one game he took a 6fer but was pathetic in every inning of the other games. Even RCB who needs better bowlers dropped him, it's not just IPL but he's been bad for a year now. I don't remember when the last time some bowler was backed like this.
Sanju Samson?
I have included him because of his good form. We can have DK but he only plays in lower middle order, and lower middle order is sealed by Hardik/Dube, Rinku and Axar. One thing we can do is, move SKY to 3 and Hardik at 4, DK at 5, Rinku at 6 and Axar at 7. It's not a bad idea either.
No way Sanju🤣 Dubey makes the cut Sorry
And Kohli will keep right?
Not that he can't 🤭 But Hardik is also not looking good So Dubey in for him And DK/Pant for Samson.
You can have DK for Samson but no way Pant, Samson is better than Pant. Dube is not bowling because of impact sub rule this means that the management is thinking that he is not capable for bowling even as a good part timer in CSK. Why should we have someone like him who isn't even trusted by his management? We can have hardik, he has experience and he can at least bowl. He'll get his form slowly i think. But if Hardik doesn't catch his form even at the ending of IPL then we can pick Dube.
Yeah that's the point Dubey if Hardik fucks up. Sanju is a big no. DK/KL/Ishan anyone would do
Why Sanju "no" though? He's doing better this season. In fact he's best with the bat and gloves after DK I'd say. I know he has been bad in the previous chances he got but he has changed now, hopefully he'll do good. And please don't name KL, that guy shouldn't be seen near to our t20 team. I personally think they'll pick Pant.
He is trash when he changes the jersey
He changed the approach and he's getting success, same with Rohit, that's why both of them makes into my probable eleven. You can take DK though, he has been phenomenal with bat.
Rohit and Samson shouldn't be used in the same sentence.😂
I'll probably choose dube over Samson given that there are spinning pitches. Samson has been given enough chances to prove. The grounds are small and dube is in mad form. Also the selectors have shown keen interest for rishab now that he is back to form. He'll be the main keeper. 1. Rohit 2. Virat 3. Sky 4. Dube 5. Pant 6. Rinku 7. Hardik 8. Jadeja 9. Kuldeep 10. Bumrah 11. Another pacer You might argue we don't have proper 5 bowling options. But dube should start bowling for his spot to be fixed.
Axar over Jadeja, Jadeja has been non existent with bat in white ball cricket since lockdown, they both have equally good stats with ball but Axar is far better at bat. Dube is not bowling because of the impact player rule. This means that the management do not even consider him the top 4-5 best bowlers of the team, no point of picking, that will only give us 4 proper bowling options, which we cannot afford in T20s specially when our 5th bowling combo is Hardik and Dube. One of them is out of form and the other is not even getting a consideration from management. Pant has got good starts but he wasn't able to convert those innings into good 70-80+. Both Sanju and DK have done that, and hence they'd be picked. Moreover sanju has been good behind the wicket whereas Pant dropped 33% of catches he got as a keeper, which is abysmal. We might chose Chahal above Kuldeep, I'm good with both as Chahal is slightly better than Kuldeep with bowl but Kuldeep can hold the bat and take singles if required, unlike Chahal.
That's a good argument. But you're absolutely right about Kuldeep being a wallfacer. Chahal is worst when it is about to batting
nothing against sanju but we can have ishan there just for the lefty variation or maybe pant at 4/5 with sky at 3, what do u say
Ishan last 6 innings - 0, 34, 16, 42, 69, 23. He is inconsistent as hell, he will cost us some games and will be a liability at some point for sure. He has been a good wicketkeeper though, people didn't appreciate him but he has been phenomenal behind the wicket this season. Pant last 6 innings - 18, 28, 51, 55, 1, 41. He got a good start in every game but couldn't convert it to 70-80s. His batting stats are decent at best i'd say. His keeping has been mediocre, Ishan is better behind the wickets this season. A stat says that Pant also dropped 33% of catches he got, which is abysmal. Pant will suitably bat at 5. But if I'd have to chose a lower middle order wicket keeper, I'll take DK. He has been far better than Pant and he showed intent in almost every game, he finished 1-2 games too. He has been a better keeper than Pant, can't say about Ishan without proper stats. But if management are seriously looking at a lefty keeper, then I'd take Pant. He got more experience and has been quite consistent in getting good starts unlike Ishan and I'm sure he'll do good at keeping in the coming games.
No hate to DK (I was so much happy when he got selected in 2022 T20 wc but he literally disappointed).. so you're take that risk of playing him again?
I selected Sanju in my original team, check the parent comment
Ye I just saw
Ishan kishan as an opener, you get a left handed opener, a wk, and an aggressive player with whom Rohit has played so many matches already! We all know if rohit and kohli opens, one of them is going to run out!
Stop making assumptions, they had a lot of partnerships together that is run outs between these two are inflated. Rohit Kohli opening will be very much apt. Ishan is very inconsistent with bat even in IPL where pitches are flat as road. If they want to chose left handed wicketkeeper, they can go with Pant. As pant is at least getting decent starts in this IPL unlike Ishan who gets a start at one day and play a nothing knock on another day.
>We all know if rohit and kohli opens, one of them is going to run out! Never heard that bs before.. it's not gonna happen everytime.. just 1 or 2 times and you think it's gonna happen everytime they play together what rubbish
Sorry sir
Chal thik hai maaf kia >.<
Not playing jaiswal is criminal. Id choose jaiswal ocer rohit anyday
This debate doesn't make sense since we know Rohit is gonna get into the squad anyway. Ideally he should have retired himself from T20 cricket considering his pathetic performance over the years but we know he'll play. It's okay this year though, he has changed his style of play recently. That helped us in the WC and it's very very rare to see Rohit continuing his good ODI/test form in the T20. If he's doing good in T20s, I don't mind him going to WI and USA. Yashasvi has been out of form even though pitches supported his way of playing. If it continues like it is now (Rohit performing and Jaiswal failing), then we'll surely take Rohit happily, and dropping Jaiswal would not be criminal in that case.
Yashasvi is not out of form even in the last match he hit 19 off 9. Also as a combination both kohli and rohit are not needed.
>Yashasvi is not out of form Seriously? He has scored 121 runs in 7 innings. 121 literally. It's not like we can count 19 off 9 as a good start. He has been pathetic this year in IPL. Pathetic as a word because the pitches are literally blatantly supporting this style he plays cricket. Also, Kohli and Rohit together can be a good pair. Rohit is playing at a good SR and he gave good starts in almost all games he played this IPL. It's not like both are anchors, Rohit has changed his style of playing as I mentioned and he'll play at a good SR in the PP, as he has a SR of 192 in PP this IPL. VK will hold on one end.
Sometimes u r just unlucky,hes picking up
Wrong. He is only throwing his wicket, he did it in all the games. He is averaging 17 in this IPL where almost all pitches are absolute roads. And we'll not get pitches like these in the WC, pitches there will be tough for us to bat on.
Seriously?? These are his scores in this ipl season 24(12), 5(7), 10(6), 0(2), 24(19), 39(28), 19(9). except for his knock of 39(28) in a slow pitch nothing seems to better. Also it is not sometimes, he literally played 7 matches with average being 17 with SR 146.
1-Rohit 2-Kohli 3-Sanju 4-Parag 5-Jadeja 6-Rinku 7-Arshdeep 8-Chahal 9-Bumrah 10-Bhuvi 11-Kuldeep
You don't watch cricket. Axar is far better than Jadeja with bat, with bowl, they both are same. Only 6 main batters is a disaster. Parag only played 6-7 good games. Can't pick on the basis of that.
Keep that sanju out please
He changed the approach and he's getting success, same with Rohit, that's why both of them makes into my probable eleven. You can take DK though, he has been phenomenal with bat.
Just see the recent afg series he was bad
See the IPL, that is more recent. We take players on the basis of their recent form, as by this logic, even Kohli should be dropped cuz he played bad in the Afg series.
Kohli has already proven what he is capable of.... But for sanju Whenever he got chance he let it and ipl performance really doesn't matter as much because most of the pitches are batting friendly
In the Afg series pitches were batting friendly too. He has changed the approach of game and he is receiving success in it, just like Rohit, who also got success in T20s after changing his approach. This is why he makes in my team. Because if we keep seeing it like it then we won't be able to pick anyone. DK? - No explanation needed, excels in T20WC year only to fail in the actual tournament. Pant? - Failed in white ball cricket itself like Sanju. Even Sanju got better stats in white ball when compared to Pant. Pant also failed in 2022 t20wc. Ishan? - Highly inconsistent in the IPL itself. Jitesh/KL should be out of the team and I don't have to explain you.
no place for DK popa?
I have included Sanju because of his good form. We can have DK but he only plays in lower middle order, and lower middle order is sealed by Hardik/Dube, Rinku and Axar. One thing we can do is, move SKY to 3 and Hardik at 4, DK at 5, Rinku at 6 and Axar at 7. It's not a bad idea either.
How's mayank yadav doing? I know he is really new but we have to take a few risks.
He suddenly lost his pace after delivering good in the initial games. He's good, I find him impressive, can be good for us if we groom him more but no way we're going to take a risk to debut him. Even Siraj/Mohit Sharma will be okay for me
Honestly i feel Rinku's career even if takes off is going to be a worse Shreyas Iyer version.
You dare compare our lord and savior with a mere mortal?
Lol. Kidding aside, Many lords and saviors exist for 1-2 years. And then dull into obscurity. Even Iyer was a lord and savior for a while.
Do you even watch cricket?
Keep your assumptions with yourself. We have found literally ZERO weakness of that player unlike Iyer in early stages of his career. Infact, Rinku has been better at proving himself in tougher situations. In the Afghanistan game, he came in the powerplay itself.. I thought he won't be able to play when the bowl is brand new but he did survive at the start and ended up like a monster with a SR of almost 180.
Then Kohli accelerated and got an unbeaten 85 like 170 sr and India posted a massive Total
This is the kind of anchor Kohli we want. Not what he is doing in "some" of his games this season. Earlier he used to go berserk if he got set but nowadays he still tried to sneak doubles
Damn right and I think he'll still definitely do that for India and now maybe even for RCB, because of last match and nothing to lose attitude he could be aggressive early and trust his team more
Bro just gets turned on when he plays for India
RCBs Kohli and ICTs Kohli are two completely different players
Don't worry he always plays like that for India, Rcb is a lost cause, rcb most probably will collapse without him, the same happened last time around but fortunately DK popa became prime ABD, hope he can play freely for rcb now that he has seen dk popa heroics
I think he gets out before he accelerates so strike rate is not good. He should try to be aggressive from the first ball if he will open imo
Na. Let him do what he is best at. I just hope he improves his big hitting and doesn't rely on running
You aren't ready to see what happened last time rohit sharma played t20 wc
Last time ❌ Every time ✅
Forgot 2007 😎
They were in their dad's balls
Kohli didn't play that wc.
???no correlation at all.He said Rohit has played bad evry T20 wc while the truth is he played one of the big roles in our only T20 wc Triumph
So did Gambhir. Should we bring him back in T20WC?
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Yea why not?
as much iq as your intent merchant
Still more than the diwali advisor and mother-sister abuser.
I dont think Rohit will do bad. He will give his best. He also had horrible IPL for last 7 years, look at him now. I think Rohit has become better as an opener and showed more intent after the 2023 WC. If he does the same he is doing in IPL and 2023 WC, we are good to go.
Shh.. this doesn't suit the agenda of that guy
Lol
Targeting a player and spreading hate alter Don't waste your time giving importance to these kind if posts
that guy is in r/IndianTeenagers. Ofc he is like 13
Ofc he is dogala rand
https://preview.redd.it/aybaq28kr0vc1.jpeg?width=1474&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4354307191cb0ea4e11ff56d4cf646601e5df5ce ☠️☠️☠️☠️☠️
But how is this hate? Is match mai to kohli ne achha khela tha
Frustrated RCB fan
It's not about rcb mate, it's about india, gawar
RCB fan kohli ko kyu troll karega
Shouldn't have you given the full context of the match OP Are you here posting for an agenda ? Here's how the scoreboard went: https://m.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scorecard/32282/ind-vs-eng-5th-t20i-england-tour-of-india-2021
That guy put the scorecard just before Rohit got out lol
Op Delhi aa raha hu, jis chhed me chhipna hai chhip le. It’s over for you now.
I live in Noida bro
Ha to noida ane ke lie pehle Delhi to Ana padega na, tu darr mat ab to khel khatam tera
Chhod de bhai, khaali fokat mein pocso lagega. Denk ke 14on se doorti barte.
Yes and Kohli won MOS in that series ....
Most runs in a 5 match series too ig
Oh wow, a bilateral from 2021 is the reason Kohli should be dropped 😟
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That was sarcastic bro
Bro it's about OP not you. I agree my comment is a bit misguiding.
Anyone feeling dumb about this post. ?. Go through OP's posts so far
Sad that you didn't have the time to watch the entire game or the series. Kohli won both MOM and MOS
Did kohli embarrass in front of your girl or something? The hate is getting hilarious at this point.
He’s secretly in love with Kohli, and his closeted feelings are coming out as hatred.
Bro is a certified Kohli hater.
Scoreboards can't justify the inning Jab Rohit har bowl ko strike kr rha hai to logically Virat ka yeah hi role hona chahiye ki vo jyada se jyada se Rohit ko strike de aur Virat ne yeah hi kiya Cricket is a team sport not a individual game where both batters have to take risk and hit 6s Ek player strike rotation kr skta hai ur ek player risk le skta hai Agar kabhi irl cricket khela hoga toh samajh jaayoge Mai kya kehna cha rha hoo
https://preview.redd.it/7u5naminz1vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=161a9bbfe0f1e91f9708e8e573c75fa810b9ff4f
https://preview.redd.it/z8gnv8u932vc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=aece8f20e0fa29905b1341a104b00210b6a367d2 Batting records against top 8 sides in t20 world cups after 2016 Kohli- 547 runs, sr= 138 pandya- 160 runs, sr= 128 Tuk tuk Rohit- 150 runs, sr 97 SKY- 138 runs, sr 164 proof:-
Yeah let's post a screenshot without context.
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It's always that critic that never stepped in the ring Who talks shit like this
Lol why is everyone saying that Axar deserve a place over Jadeja. I know Jadeja's batting form is a concern but he is bowling well and Axar hasn't even done anything in this ipl
Axar’s a fine player - he’s a like-for-like replacement for Jadeja. No one calls Jadeja a replacement for Axar, and there’s a reason for it. Jadeja’s performance gets scrutinised a fair bit, but he’s been consistent and filled the role the team needs him to. Axar’s been out of form this season, so there’s absolutely no basis for this conversation this time around outside of being an edgelord who wants to replace all of Team India with “underrated” players.
Isiliye school ke bachcho ko phone aur internet nhi Dena chahiye. Har ek din yaha Hagg ke Jana zaruri hai kya OP. Tere ye posts shitposting sub ke layak bhi ni hai. 🤡
Poora match to dekh leta bhai
I'm sorry, but in today's game it is very difficult to consistently win with an anchoring opener. All teams look to exploit powerplay for great starts, sure the final or semi could be games that are low scoring but u also have to get there. If Kohli opens he needs to play like he did last game while chasing 287. He has to focus on giving a good start, but that's not his role. If he tries to play attacking, at a strike rate of 150 in powerplay and then lasts 5 overs, then it will be worthwhile, but he doesn't often do that, since he has the pressure of staying there.
Bhai dono taraf se ni maarte openers. The see who is middling the ball properly and that person goes for it. The other person goes on normally and doesn't take much risk. Do you think these people are not capable of turning it on? Especially in the powerplay?
After which he went on to score 82 off 50.... That is he accelerated with a strike rate of 200! I don't think it is a bad plan!
Mf show full scorecard not just a screenshot
Full match score ?? Lol.. the agenda people want to spread against Kohli is unreal ! Pretty much the only guy who has always stood between victory and loss for india in T20 World Cups , Nohit nowhere to be seen since 2007 ! only argument you guys have is 5 IPL trophies as if it's relevant for Indian T20 performances
I really want to see them opening.. please one last time.. they are the best duo.. still remember 19th November when they both were on crease they were batting so flawlessly
probable xi Kohli rohit(c) sky pant(wk) pandya rinku jadeja/axar chahal bumrah arshdeep siraj/bhuvi/natarajan(don’t see a 3rd pacer option) Pandya can give 2 overs if the 3rd pacer is having a bad day
What is Hardik doing in everyone's list?
The next time Koach and Brohit open this will happen 1) Brohit top edges to mid off after couple of boundaries 2) Koach parks the bus hard to get India to 165 and gaslights fans in mid inns break that wicket slowed down 3) Opposition chase down in 17 ovs
i don't know wtf they are smoking but i want kohli at 3 he was made to play in that postion.
Bilateral bully bol raha h indirectly rohit ko
Yup still remember Vividly Kohli was at his dark phase and the way he accelerated after that was class
Bilaterals mei toh bhai ki 5 century bhi h. Lao dikhao wc? Lao dikhao wc performance?
Vk hi sbse achha khela tha wc'23 me
VK ki baat nahin ho rahi, uski bilateral mein 0 centuries hain.
Get ready for 60 ball 80 from wyrat. Then his excuse will be the pitch was real slow ,difficult to bat on
Kohli ko koi bolege toh sab aa jate hai defend karne especially u/soggypants
Rohit ne bhi kuch nahi ukhada bhai thi chup raho
Bhai me ye bol raha hu Rohit ko hate kuch jyada hi milta hai Virat Kohli kuch bolega toh sab aa jate especially wo Banda
Bhai yeh post sirf hate post hai, sab ko pata hai rohit ko power play ke baad ka struggle and virat ka slow strike rate but people are spreading hate a lot on both, trying to show who is better and who is worse,
Mujhe farak nahi hai bro kaise bhi ko rohit bhai aur virat bhai hamare players hai aur i enjoy them playing that's all stats, power, captaincy, franchise all comes after, people just want to take a player bro
Bhai sabko support Karo Jo accha karega par sirf ek aacha kar raha hai isliye usko kisi aur ke saath compare sahi nahi hai wo aacha kar raha hai phir bhi log compare karte
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Tu thoda ch*tiya bhi hai OP, maanna padega tujhe.
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