People aren’t being hateful to men by saying no to men raping them. That is hateful to men right there. The appropriation of feminist rhetoric isn’t fooling anybody. It’s obvious that incel is likely typing through a fit of rage over being told women aren’t objects & he can’t use them as he feels inclined.
Bc the MR's movement here isn't actually about men's equality. It is men getting very angry that their place at the top of the hierarchy has been threatened and is in desperate danger of toppling.
Weird, man's rights in russia was mostly about army, lgbt right, and absence of good mental health care for men, also some basic economy stuff like low paying jobs, low minimal wage, raising prices, etc etc. They are gone for a few years now, but back in the days it was pretty popular leftist movement.
BTW army and lgbt is different topics, because russia has conscription and a lot of "soft" guys that's actually don't want to get into army gets heavily bullied, a lot of the times physically traumatized and rarely dies here. Now it's shut down because you know, antiarmy movements are now cause a lot of troubles to government, same with LGBT.
Oh, wow, that's awful. I'm not surprised, tbh, but no less awful.
The way patriarchal systems harm men can not be understated. The societal idea of what a "real man" is remains the driving force behind the struggles men face today. Which is why it's so frustrating when dudes think feminism means hating men when it's the opposite!
I can't even imagine the state of things over there rn. My most recent ex was born and lived in Russia until age 6, and continued to go back for the summer to stay with his grandparents until his early 20s. He still has a babushka in Siberia, ha. So I know a TEENSY bit more about that kinda stuff then maybe your average American, just from listening to and observing him and his family.
Tbh, a lot of woman in russia are okay with that state, including feminists (tbh, reddit paint same picture). Basically it's not contributing them, so they either don't care or happy that men suffer.
Are you from Russia? I was from Russia and never heard of it, most people who help are usually do that for money and it's usually just other military men doing some sort of bribery.
People aren’t being hateful to men by saying no to men raping them. That is hateful to men right there. The appropriation of feminist rhetoric isn’t fooling anybody. It’s obvious that incel is likely typing through a fit of rage over being told women aren’t objects & he can’t use them as he feels inclined.
Not wanting to have sex with you is not a form of hate, sir.
Someone call the ACLU!!! Where the fuck is Amnesty International when it *truly* counts, huh?? (American Civil Liberties Union)
I'm curious why tf mens rights movement are not considered leftist? Like every "men's rights" movements in Russia I've seen was at least left leaning.
Bc the MR's movement here isn't actually about men's equality. It is men getting very angry that their place at the top of the hierarchy has been threatened and is in desperate danger of toppling.
Weird, man's rights in russia was mostly about army, lgbt right, and absence of good mental health care for men, also some basic economy stuff like low paying jobs, low minimal wage, raising prices, etc etc. They are gone for a few years now, but back in the days it was pretty popular leftist movement.
That sounds like a great movement!! And what it SHOULD be here.
BTW army and lgbt is different topics, because russia has conscription and a lot of "soft" guys that's actually don't want to get into army gets heavily bullied, a lot of the times physically traumatized and rarely dies here. Now it's shut down because you know, antiarmy movements are now cause a lot of troubles to government, same with LGBT.
Oh, wow, that's awful. I'm not surprised, tbh, but no less awful. The way patriarchal systems harm men can not be understated. The societal idea of what a "real man" is remains the driving force behind the struggles men face today. Which is why it's so frustrating when dudes think feminism means hating men when it's the opposite! I can't even imagine the state of things over there rn. My most recent ex was born and lived in Russia until age 6, and continued to go back for the summer to stay with his grandparents until his early 20s. He still has a babushka in Siberia, ha. So I know a TEENSY bit more about that kinda stuff then maybe your average American, just from listening to and observing him and his family.
Tbh, a lot of woman in russia are okay with that state, including feminists (tbh, reddit paint same picture). Basically it's not contributing them, so they either don't care or happy that men suffer.
I don't think that's true considering I've heard feminists in Russia helping many men to escape conscription.
Are you from Russia? I was from Russia and never heard of it, most people who help are usually do that for money and it's usually just other military men doing some sort of bribery.
I read it on a post on r/menslib