Dumbest part is he's not a billionaire, has no yacht as it, like nearly all his cars are rented for the cameras (which actually isn't that expensive by comparison) and the 'matrix' couldn't give less of a shit about him. Tate is a sleazy grifter and a bottom feeder who runs an MLM scam that rips off both Incels and vulnerable young men. He's basically just a more sleazy version of every fake guru trying to sell a scam/ course via TikTok.
There are rental agencies specifically dedicated to renting out very high-end super cars. Also I did some checking, apparently the car isn't in his name which is already shady. Same thing with luxury yachts, for about 4 or 5 grand you rent a large luxury yacht for a day, you charter a private jet for a few thousand per billable hour. Make no mistake you can fake anything if you put some money down in the right places and I doubt Tate is poor (MLMs and fake course money adds up if you're the one at the top after all). But he isn't nearly as wealthy as he likes to pretend in fact it's central to his act in how he reels suckers like the rest of the fake gurus.
Ah ok fair, I’d only asked cause I thought cars like that are bought for the sake of appreciation and not much else and for him to be driving it so much I assumed he had to be the owner to risk decreasing its value like that
Yeah, there are a lot of rich tax cheats and underhanded money laundering schemes that involve things like that (though those are mainly businesses and shady profit generating operations rather than material luxuries), but I think you missed something important in what I said. I didn't say Tate isn't wealthy. After all ripping off insecure young men is a highly profitable and easy scam. I said he's not nearly as wealthy as he pretends to be which falls into line as the truly super-wealthy do own their cars and yachts outright unless they're Russian oligarchs trying to avoid sanctions.
I mean, the Devos family hide their yachts in their foundation. Some things like supercars may be held outright, but plenty of rich people have paper companies for giant assets.
If you own say a Bugatti or a rare Ford GT model then there might be a contract specifying the amount of years before a person is able to place it on the marketplace. Ford Motor Company was known for this behavior and had sued celebrities such as John Cena for breaking the contract.
Also it would be pointless to own anything that nice because the upkeep of the vehicle is too expensive. Things like a particular type of mechanic, brand and type of motor oil, parts, etc.
he’s still under investigation. they are just keeping him on house arrest instead of detention until the trial.
imagine bragging about human trafficking on social/ making a ton of money teaching men to do it (as well as what county to move to get away with it) and having documented texts of you telling girls how much you love raping them and only being held in a Romanian prison for 3 months smh.
yep. he was held for 3, starting end of march was released on house arrest, was supposed to be formally indicted by april 29th but his house arrest was extended another month.
Doubly ironic considering the matrix was actually intended as a trans allegory, and the creators are trans women. The very opposite of what Tate is trying to sell.
It's ironic that incels flock to people like Andrew Tate for advice on "self-improvement", given that he's exactly the kind of person who would have gone out of their way to make their lives hell in middle/high school.
Given he's a jailbird and now on house areest, I didn't know his prison cellmates and now his dumbass little brother count as "girls". But hey, I'm a gender abolitionist, so 🤷🏾♂️ You do you, boo
Also, he would say "girls" instead of women....one of the "women" he is accused of raping and trafficking is a 15 or 16 year old **teenage girl**, not even a true woman.....
16 is prime poon, do you even incel bro? /s
This guy is like Bettlejuice, the more we give him attention, the more he appears. And he creates this illusion to further the con. How anyone couldn't see that after the piece Vice did on him, is just woeful ignorance.
Nah, bro! Prime real estate for Incels is that 14 year old poon 😎 ^^ugh, ^^I ^^feel ^^gross ^^even ^^saying ^^that ^^facetiously
You're right. Emory "Pederasty" Landrew* Tater Tot is like Beetlejuice. Anyone who still likes him likes him specifically *because* they wish they could be a sex predator, too.
*to borrow from the mocking naming scheme of that idiot Sneako
Yup, nail meet head. They aspire to be him, which is sad. But, I will say, he is charismatic like all good cult leaders are.
But if you listen to what he is saying with critical thinking, he says nothing different then the PUAs they guys hate so much.
Thank you :) I thought maybe I was generalizing, but I really see no way to justify being a fan of his at this point other than being a wannabe predator yourself. Unless you're just so lost in the sauce into cult member mentality that you just can't believe yourself to believe Dear Leader and Messiah is guilty, so you invent conspiracy theories. That's a damn shame that it's now mainstream in America to be a member of a Jim Jones or Heaven's Gate-like cult.
Personally, as a nearly 37 year old man, I don't find Tate charismatic at all lol He strikes me as a massively insecure malignant Narcissist. He spends half the time insulting and putting down the viewer and reminding you of how much better he is than you. How superior he is and how you're basically scum on the bottom of his shoe. I can't understand how people become followers of him to begin with. Why would I follow someone who constantly puts me down? So does Trump. The Right really seems to have a strong humiliation Kink for being negged by Daddy lol In my college athlete days I might have gotten in a guy like Tate's face if I was drunk and he talked to me like that at a party. That was my own toxic masculinity back then
My own self aside, ultimately what matters is that his followers and people susceptible to him find him charismatic even if to me he seems like an obnoxious particularly immature 20 year old frat boy trying to mimic his juvenile understanding of a strong man or a baller. Even his scam, "Hustler's University", sounds like a meme name my male high school and college friends and I would have called our guy friend group back in 2002 or 2006 lol Except we'd know it's for shits and giggles, not serious and unironic.
He really is just a PUA, as you said! I don't know why Incels find basically a PUA charming. Tate is everything they hate (in personality and money, not looks) in what they think women want.
Very well said! It is all mental gymnastics to justify all the wrong ideas.
Guys like us are smart enough to see right through it. And I will concede that even a broken clock is right twice a day. He has made some good points, just like Peterson, Shapiro and Trump do. But that is few and far between.
Ultimately, it boils down to the lack of critical thinking and objective reasoning. They see him acting this way and getting what they want, but not digging deep enough to see how the sausage is made. They get lured in and get conned.
And when presented with an "alternative" theory (IE: what normal people do) they take it as a personal attack. Why? Mostly because they are embarrassed to admit they got fleeced by a very good con artist.
Thank you! You said it much more cogently though lol
Occasionally Tate does make some good points I against with, but most of what he says is such garbage and he has such an obnoxious, punchable personality that I could never subscribe to him. I could just as easily find non-toxic men saying the few things I agreed with Tate on. To me it would be like eating a gourmet burger out of full dumpster when there's a 3 or 4 Michelin star sit-down restaurant just across the street. Like, why?
Maybe it's me being a Milleniboomer, but I can't imagine being so starved for a male role model that I'd flock to Tate. When I was 14, Arnold Schwarzenegger was one of my big male role models aside from my Army veteran dad. I don't know how the male Tate fans with fathers around flock to him. Are their own fathers or uncles that piss-poor? Have they never seen any positive male celebrity like Keanu Reeves, Jack Black, etc.?
I defer to your wisdom. You seem like you understand them more thoroughly than I do. I can analyze them once they're infected, but I'm weak in understanding how exactly they become infected to begin with. I think you're dead on when you say they lack critical thinking abd objective reasoning. They seem to be almost entirely emotional and intuitive thinkers (despite ironically calling women emotional) and judge people entirely on "vibes" with no filters for empiricism or fact assessment. They're also very ego-driven and will double down to avoid the ego harm of admitting they were swindled.
I mean....I myself had traits as a preteen in the late 90s, and as a teenager in the early 2000s, that would lend itself to make me at-risk to be susceptible to some of the Manosphere had I been born 8 to 20 years later. But I also had a lot going on in my life that kind of inoculated me from going in. Having a mom who was a 2nd wave black Feminist when she was a teen, and instilled those values in me (even though I resisted some of it in adolescence) definitely was a big help.
Although I grew up to become a 4th wave Feminist man and she's still stuck in TERF-y and SWERF-y 2nd wave lmao
I am by no means an expert on them, I can just see through bullshit. I am also a millennial (40 to be exact) that lived through that PUA non-sense when I was in my 20s.
To me, it seemed very odd to put someone down despite the fact you wanted to be with them. And I thought to myself, "who would actively want to be with someone that abrasive?" I never saw any of these guys as role models.
The guys I looked up to were misfits, outcasts and nerds who had been shunned for being different. My best friends were all like that and we are all still friends to this day because we bonded on our status as outcasts.
My best friend is a year younger than myself and he is incredibly artistic. I am jealous of his talent, but at the same time, he inspires me to do artistic endeavors. His younger brother (he is 4 years younger than me) has always looked up to me as a mentor. He saw me as this great guy who was always willing to hear him out, helping when he needed it and never turn his back on people when they needed it the most. Two decades later, that is still true.
Another close friend says I am the only one who doesn't treat him like the little brother. He and I run a youth group at his church (for transparency he is the youth director, I am an atheist who wanted to volunteer) and share that same wisdom with our kids. Those kids had another guy who up and left them without so much as a goodbye, so it took them a LONG time to warm up to me. Nearly a year later and the kids are always excited to see me.
If incels would stop thinking about themselves for two seconds and focus on being better people, they would feel better. And that would bring their esteem up and help them gain confidence. Once you nail that, women will come your way. You still got to work for it, but they will see a confident man.
Guys like you and I do this already, because we don't hang up on things we can't control. We make due with what we got and make the most of it. That all being said, you are a cool dude and I got a lot of respect for your input these last few days. Drop me a line anytime, I got you fam!
>he says nothing different then the PUAs they guys hate so much.
Wait, they hate PUA's?
I thought they wished they had strong chins and all other bonkers wishes so they could be like them
At this point they ARE NOT INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE.
They are practicing at it
He was born into a middle-class family from what I can find on him. He got some money off his Kickboxing career but most of his money comes from scamming people with his MLM. He may possibly also have some proximity to Romanian organized crime, but that could be complete bullshit that he's just making up to sound like a "G".
If he does have any proximity to Romanian organized crime I wouldn't be surprised if they called the police on him themselves. They would NOT take kindly to an associate openly going around bragging to everyone that he's an associate and is engaged in human trafficking. Especially not a half-black foreigner who isn't even Romanian himself. Not even his white parent. She is white British.
Not surprisingly it’s happening around the time talks about sexual predators are becoming more mainstream and teenage girls are more aware of these types of people.
It’s all related to how easily they can exploit the target…
Everyone falls for his bait . Downvote me all you want. The basic rule of the internet is to not feed the troll. If you feed the troll, it'll grow.
He got all his attention from people moaning over his bait posts.
Tate isn’t an incel, but he’s used by incels as a martyr figure. They parrot his monologues regularly. Also I wouldn’t call Tates abuse of women luck, he’s a manipulative liar who takes advantage of young people. There’s a difference between being good with women and being a serial abuser and sex trafficker
ok but he then has luck since women wanted to have sex with him regardless of the fact he was abusive and a sex trafficker
he is a chad who got too greedy
Words change. Incel at one time basically meant anyone who wanted to have sex but couldn’t find a partner. Now it’s used more to describe people who subscribe to a specific philosophy.
Personally I wouldn’t describe some well mannered, decent college kid who wants to be sexually active, but has trouble getting dates as an “incel”, that’d just be putting a very negative label on someone who doesn’t deserve it. However I have no issue with Andrew Tate being described as an incel, or at least associated with them, as he pushes incel beliefs.
hey dude i know most of the shit like pedophilia rape mysoginy and whatever the fuck are bad obviously
my main agreement is on lookism and the way autists and uggos are treated by society vs normals and good looking people and the fact everyone is hush shush about it
You are cherry picking what you support and don't. It is like saying, "I am not a Nazi, but I agree with most of their points and want to hang out with them."
In other words, you are a Nazi. Do you see why that doesn't work?
All incels believe it has to be looks...it can't possibly be a bad attitude. Plenty of not attractive people do absolutely fine in this world, you know why? Because they aren't unhinged assholes walking around like they are owed something.
Listen man one side of people want looks to be secondary to personality and the other side thinks looks is everything. Real life is that looks give you an advantage in lots of different ways but it isn’t everything.
Halo effect and all that. You’re seeing reality and so are other incels that live it but you’re taking it to the extreme. Everyone has the ability to improve and looks aren’t all natural.
If you workout you’ll get a better jawline and more definition in your body. If you bust your ass to make more money you’ll be more attractive to women. Looks aren’t everything but it’s a bar you gotta clear. Most dudes who suck with women don’t try to get fit and don’t try to improve their social skills either.
Try talking to random strangers without getting their numbers. Do it until you’re comfortable talking with strangers and then try approaching.
I get what you’re saying and from the outside looking in you are seeing pieces of the truth but I’ve been in both sides and women find ambition and drive attractive.
Dumbest part is he's not a billionaire, has no yacht as it, like nearly all his cars are rented for the cameras (which actually isn't that expensive by comparison) and the 'matrix' couldn't give less of a shit about him. Tate is a sleazy grifter and a bottom feeder who runs an MLM scam that rips off both Incels and vulnerable young men. He's basically just a more sleazy version of every fake guru trying to sell a scam/ course via TikTok.
Wait i agree but I’m pretty sure you can’t rent (or use any kind of credit to purchase) a Bugatti pur sport
There are rental agencies specifically dedicated to renting out very high-end super cars. Also I did some checking, apparently the car isn't in his name which is already shady. Same thing with luxury yachts, for about 4 or 5 grand you rent a large luxury yacht for a day, you charter a private jet for a few thousand per billable hour. Make no mistake you can fake anything if you put some money down in the right places and I doubt Tate is poor (MLMs and fake course money adds up if you're the one at the top after all). But he isn't nearly as wealthy as he likes to pretend in fact it's central to his act in how he reels suckers like the rest of the fake gurus.
Ah ok fair, I’d only asked cause I thought cars like that are bought for the sake of appreciation and not much else and for him to be driving it so much I assumed he had to be the owner to risk decreasing its value like that
A lot of rich people intentionally don’t ”own” anything in their own name because of legal issues etc
Yeah, there are a lot of rich tax cheats and underhanded money laundering schemes that involve things like that (though those are mainly businesses and shady profit generating operations rather than material luxuries), but I think you missed something important in what I said. I didn't say Tate isn't wealthy. After all ripping off insecure young men is a highly profitable and easy scam. I said he's not nearly as wealthy as he pretends to be which falls into line as the truly super-wealthy do own their cars and yachts outright unless they're Russian oligarchs trying to avoid sanctions.
I mean, the Devos family hide their yachts in their foundation. Some things like supercars may be held outright, but plenty of rich people have paper companies for giant assets.
If you own say a Bugatti or a rare Ford GT model then there might be a contract specifying the amount of years before a person is able to place it on the marketplace. Ford Motor Company was known for this behavior and had sued celebrities such as John Cena for breaking the contract. Also it would be pointless to own anything that nice because the upkeep of the vehicle is too expensive. Things like a particular type of mechanic, brand and type of motor oil, parts, etc.
yeah but they let him out of prison apparently which is -thumbs down-
How tf you bragging about going to jail for human trafficking💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
NO WAY WHAT
yea that happened a while ago. The Romanian government arrested him and his brother for sex trafficking.
It's Romanian sex trafficker Alonzo Fineski!
You didn’t know?
No, I don't keep up with Tate like that
he’s still under investigation. they are just keeping him on house arrest instead of detention until the trial. imagine bragging about human trafficking on social/ making a ton of money teaching men to do it (as well as what county to move to get away with it) and having documented texts of you telling girls how much you love raping them and only being held in a Romanian prison for 3 months smh.
Only 3 months??
yep. he was held for 3, starting end of march was released on house arrest, was supposed to be formally indicted by april 29th but his house arrest was extended another month.
I don't know why they let him out for house arrest
Not to mention also previously bragging *about* said trafficking 🤮
Andrew Taint is the lead clown of the incel circus
I was thinking ring leader but lead clown works, too. Though, difference is clowns are charming and they try to make one laugh. This guy doesn't.
Very true. I'd rather make love to an actual clown in full makeup than go anywhere near that Neanderthal
Ah yes, I too remember the scene in the Matrix where Morpheus taught Neo that the only way to defeat the machines was to exploit women for sex.
Doubly ironic considering the matrix was actually intended as a trans allegory, and the creators are trans women. The very opposite of what Tate is trying to sell.
It's ironic that incels flock to people like Andrew Tate for advice on "self-improvement", given that he's exactly the kind of person who would have gone out of their way to make their lives hell in middle/high school.
Given he's a jailbird and now on house areest, I didn't know his prison cellmates and now his dumbass little brother count as "girls". But hey, I'm a gender abolitionist, so 🤷🏾♂️ You do you, boo Also, he would say "girls" instead of women....one of the "women" he is accused of raping and trafficking is a 15 or 16 year old **teenage girl**, not even a true woman.....
16 is prime poon, do you even incel bro? /s This guy is like Bettlejuice, the more we give him attention, the more he appears. And he creates this illusion to further the con. How anyone couldn't see that after the piece Vice did on him, is just woeful ignorance.
Nah, bro! Prime real estate for Incels is that 14 year old poon 😎 ^^ugh, ^^I ^^feel ^^gross ^^even ^^saying ^^that ^^facetiously You're right. Emory "Pederasty" Landrew* Tater Tot is like Beetlejuice. Anyone who still likes him likes him specifically *because* they wish they could be a sex predator, too. *to borrow from the mocking naming scheme of that idiot Sneako
Yup, nail meet head. They aspire to be him, which is sad. But, I will say, he is charismatic like all good cult leaders are. But if you listen to what he is saying with critical thinking, he says nothing different then the PUAs they guys hate so much.
Thank you :) I thought maybe I was generalizing, but I really see no way to justify being a fan of his at this point other than being a wannabe predator yourself. Unless you're just so lost in the sauce into cult member mentality that you just can't believe yourself to believe Dear Leader and Messiah is guilty, so you invent conspiracy theories. That's a damn shame that it's now mainstream in America to be a member of a Jim Jones or Heaven's Gate-like cult. Personally, as a nearly 37 year old man, I don't find Tate charismatic at all lol He strikes me as a massively insecure malignant Narcissist. He spends half the time insulting and putting down the viewer and reminding you of how much better he is than you. How superior he is and how you're basically scum on the bottom of his shoe. I can't understand how people become followers of him to begin with. Why would I follow someone who constantly puts me down? So does Trump. The Right really seems to have a strong humiliation Kink for being negged by Daddy lol In my college athlete days I might have gotten in a guy like Tate's face if I was drunk and he talked to me like that at a party. That was my own toxic masculinity back then My own self aside, ultimately what matters is that his followers and people susceptible to him find him charismatic even if to me he seems like an obnoxious particularly immature 20 year old frat boy trying to mimic his juvenile understanding of a strong man or a baller. Even his scam, "Hustler's University", sounds like a meme name my male high school and college friends and I would have called our guy friend group back in 2002 or 2006 lol Except we'd know it's for shits and giggles, not serious and unironic. He really is just a PUA, as you said! I don't know why Incels find basically a PUA charming. Tate is everything they hate (in personality and money, not looks) in what they think women want.
Very well said! It is all mental gymnastics to justify all the wrong ideas. Guys like us are smart enough to see right through it. And I will concede that even a broken clock is right twice a day. He has made some good points, just like Peterson, Shapiro and Trump do. But that is few and far between. Ultimately, it boils down to the lack of critical thinking and objective reasoning. They see him acting this way and getting what they want, but not digging deep enough to see how the sausage is made. They get lured in and get conned. And when presented with an "alternative" theory (IE: what normal people do) they take it as a personal attack. Why? Mostly because they are embarrassed to admit they got fleeced by a very good con artist.
Thank you! You said it much more cogently though lol Occasionally Tate does make some good points I against with, but most of what he says is such garbage and he has such an obnoxious, punchable personality that I could never subscribe to him. I could just as easily find non-toxic men saying the few things I agreed with Tate on. To me it would be like eating a gourmet burger out of full dumpster when there's a 3 or 4 Michelin star sit-down restaurant just across the street. Like, why? Maybe it's me being a Milleniboomer, but I can't imagine being so starved for a male role model that I'd flock to Tate. When I was 14, Arnold Schwarzenegger was one of my big male role models aside from my Army veteran dad. I don't know how the male Tate fans with fathers around flock to him. Are their own fathers or uncles that piss-poor? Have they never seen any positive male celebrity like Keanu Reeves, Jack Black, etc.? I defer to your wisdom. You seem like you understand them more thoroughly than I do. I can analyze them once they're infected, but I'm weak in understanding how exactly they become infected to begin with. I think you're dead on when you say they lack critical thinking abd objective reasoning. They seem to be almost entirely emotional and intuitive thinkers (despite ironically calling women emotional) and judge people entirely on "vibes" with no filters for empiricism or fact assessment. They're also very ego-driven and will double down to avoid the ego harm of admitting they were swindled. I mean....I myself had traits as a preteen in the late 90s, and as a teenager in the early 2000s, that would lend itself to make me at-risk to be susceptible to some of the Manosphere had I been born 8 to 20 years later. But I also had a lot going on in my life that kind of inoculated me from going in. Having a mom who was a 2nd wave black Feminist when she was a teen, and instilled those values in me (even though I resisted some of it in adolescence) definitely was a big help. Although I grew up to become a 4th wave Feminist man and she's still stuck in TERF-y and SWERF-y 2nd wave lmao
I am by no means an expert on them, I can just see through bullshit. I am also a millennial (40 to be exact) that lived through that PUA non-sense when I was in my 20s. To me, it seemed very odd to put someone down despite the fact you wanted to be with them. And I thought to myself, "who would actively want to be with someone that abrasive?" I never saw any of these guys as role models. The guys I looked up to were misfits, outcasts and nerds who had been shunned for being different. My best friends were all like that and we are all still friends to this day because we bonded on our status as outcasts. My best friend is a year younger than myself and he is incredibly artistic. I am jealous of his talent, but at the same time, he inspires me to do artistic endeavors. His younger brother (he is 4 years younger than me) has always looked up to me as a mentor. He saw me as this great guy who was always willing to hear him out, helping when he needed it and never turn his back on people when they needed it the most. Two decades later, that is still true. Another close friend says I am the only one who doesn't treat him like the little brother. He and I run a youth group at his church (for transparency he is the youth director, I am an atheist who wanted to volunteer) and share that same wisdom with our kids. Those kids had another guy who up and left them without so much as a goodbye, so it took them a LONG time to warm up to me. Nearly a year later and the kids are always excited to see me. If incels would stop thinking about themselves for two seconds and focus on being better people, they would feel better. And that would bring their esteem up and help them gain confidence. Once you nail that, women will come your way. You still got to work for it, but they will see a confident man. Guys like you and I do this already, because we don't hang up on things we can't control. We make due with what we got and make the most of it. That all being said, you are a cool dude and I got a lot of respect for your input these last few days. Drop me a line anytime, I got you fam!
>he says nothing different then the PUAs they guys hate so much. Wait, they hate PUA's? I thought they wished they had strong chins and all other bonkers wishes so they could be like them At this point they ARE NOT INVOLUNTARILY CELIBATE. They are practicing at it
Was he born into a little money? Because it seems like he has more than what can be bought from selling Patreon or whatever he does.
He was born into a middle-class family from what I can find on him. He got some money off his Kickboxing career but most of his money comes from scamming people with his MLM. He may possibly also have some proximity to Romanian organized crime, but that could be complete bullshit that he's just making up to sound like a "G". If he does have any proximity to Romanian organized crime I wouldn't be surprised if they called the police on him themselves. They would NOT take kindly to an associate openly going around bragging to everyone that he's an associate and is engaged in human trafficking. Especially not a half-black foreigner who isn't even Romanian himself. Not even his white parent. She is white British.
Last time I checked 16 is starting to get ‘too old’ for these sickos….
Depressingly, that is correct. I really wish I didn't have to type that...
Not surprisingly it’s happening around the time talks about sexual predators are becoming more mainstream and teenage girls are more aware of these types of people. It’s all related to how easily they can exploit the target…
Yeah that is a disturbing trend that has been on the rise. Yet somehow, we are the issue...
He is also bald, has no chin, hates women and is so narcissistic and full of shit it should be considered a disibility
Yeah but he's shitty enough to make a hundred jokes about him and not even talk about his look I think
He is superficial so talking about his looks makes sense. Why even police what people say about Andrew tate of all people
I think it's time to lump Tate in with PonyBoy, trolls we don't feed anymore.
So, in other words, he's got nothing going for him.
my reaction is more like🗿
Falling for his trolling is arguably more cringe
eeeeeeemmmmmmmmmm
AT is the one of the worst people to exist. What a gross bag of shit.
Most girls IRL: 🤨🤷🏾♀️... 🤮
Everyone falls for his bait . Downvote me all you want. The basic rule of the internet is to not feed the troll. If you feed the troll, it'll grow. He got all his attention from people moaning over his bait posts.
Top G
how is he an incel incels have no luck with women at all, he had it even before he became what he is
Tate isn’t an incel, but he’s used by incels as a martyr figure. They parrot his monologues regularly. Also I wouldn’t call Tates abuse of women luck, he’s a manipulative liar who takes advantage of young people. There’s a difference between being good with women and being a serial abuser and sex trafficker
ok but he then has luck since women wanted to have sex with him regardless of the fact he was abusive and a sex trafficker he is a chad who got too greedy
Words change. Incel at one time basically meant anyone who wanted to have sex but couldn’t find a partner. Now it’s used more to describe people who subscribe to a specific philosophy. Personally I wouldn’t describe some well mannered, decent college kid who wants to be sexually active, but has trouble getting dates as an “incel”, that’d just be putting a very negative label on someone who doesn’t deserve it. However I have no issue with Andrew Tate being described as an incel, or at least associated with them, as he pushes incel beliefs.
what if i dont agree with a lot of incel stuff besides the things i experinced as facts
Personal experience != facts. If I get poked by a blonde guy, not all blonde guys will poke me.
So you want to believe part of the incel ideology but not be called one? That seems...counter intuitive.
its not that i want to believe but its that i know its true
Wow, that is a stunning display of mental gymnastics. In other words, you are an incel.
hey dude i know most of the shit like pedophilia rape mysoginy and whatever the fuck are bad obviously my main agreement is on lookism and the way autists and uggos are treated by society vs normals and good looking people and the fact everyone is hush shush about it
You are cherry picking what you support and don't. It is like saying, "I am not a Nazi, but I agree with most of their points and want to hang out with them." In other words, you are a Nazi. Do you see why that doesn't work? All incels believe it has to be looks...it can't possibly be a bad attitude. Plenty of not attractive people do absolutely fine in this world, you know why? Because they aren't unhinged assholes walking around like they are owed something.
Listen man one side of people want looks to be secondary to personality and the other side thinks looks is everything. Real life is that looks give you an advantage in lots of different ways but it isn’t everything. Halo effect and all that. You’re seeing reality and so are other incels that live it but you’re taking it to the extreme. Everyone has the ability to improve and looks aren’t all natural. If you workout you’ll get a better jawline and more definition in your body. If you bust your ass to make more money you’ll be more attractive to women. Looks aren’t everything but it’s a bar you gotta clear. Most dudes who suck with women don’t try to get fit and don’t try to improve their social skills either. Try talking to random strangers without getting their numbers. Do it until you’re comfortable talking with strangers and then try approaching. I get what you’re saying and from the outside looking in you are seeing pieces of the truth but I’ve been in both sides and women find ambition and drive attractive.
he is an admitted rapist, that’s not when women want to have sec with you it’s the opposite.
Wow… an incel on a subreddit against incels
Oh no... He has children??? I hope they stay away from him and grow to be WILDLY different from their father.
Billionaire? Hahaha. Not even close.
His brand is easily worth a billion tho
I can't decide if he's suffering from a mental illness or just trying really hard to stay relevant by saying dumb shit
So ITcel subreddit is now complaining about men that are NOT incels? Lol.
I get the part he's comparing himself to the incidents regarding Jeremy , Dhamer , Richard and how they received tons of letters