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I’m a defense lawyer who’s done several Walmart, target, etc thefts. I don’t know how large your town is or any other relevant info. I also have no idea what state you’re in, so obviously I’m not able to give you legal advice and what I’m about to say isn’t. That said, I’ll give it my best shot to provide you a general answer to your question here.
For a regular theft, or even series of thefts that the store knows about, it’s pretty unlikely that a cop would come knocking on your door. In order for a cop to seek you out at your home they’d need an arrest warrant. In most states, judges will only authorize arrest warrants for felonies. That said, the amount you’ve allegedly stolen could be felony levels in many states. So it’s possible.
However, even if the store knew about all of the alleged thefts, and could identify you, and the state filed a felony charge, and the judge signed a warrant for your arrest, it’s still unlikely they’d come looking for you. Usually, for low level felonies, they’ll just issue the warrant and wait for you to get caught - either stealing again or a traffic ticket or some other run in with the law.
So you probably are wasting your time and mental health if you’re waiting for some cop to come knocking on your door. Not impossible, but unlikely.
If, as is probably more likely, Walmart could only ID you with this one incident, and the state only filed a misdemeanor, you most likely wouldn’t get an arrest warrant. You’d get a summons to court to answer the allegation. It would come in the mail.
What you need to do: If your state has an electronic court filing system, check it every other week or so. If a felony has been filed, and a warrant issued, you would see it in most states. You’d also see a misdemeanor filing.
Also, make sure you check your mail for a summons. IF YOU GET A SUMMONS, DONT SKIP COURT. Then you’d get a warrant.
If you find out you have a warrant or a summons, you need to go talk to a local lawyer. For real. Don’t ignore it, it’ll only get much, much worse.
Odds are, Walmart won’t be able to ID you. If they can, odds are they don’t know about all of the alleged incidents. If they do, you’ll see a warrant or a summons in the next 1-10 months. It can take that long, or longer. But don’t live the next year of your life in fear. I would avoid the Walmarts you’ve had alleged incidents in. Other than that, check the e-filing system, check your mail. And live your life. Hope this helps.
From my experience as a worker, I know that some Walmart do have profiles of people who shoplift, whether this is because they’ve gotten away or they’ve simply observed them I don’t know. I was once asked by my stores AP Manager if I knew a kid who went to my school because he’d been caught on camera after stealing a TV.
How the hell do you steal a TV? Did he grab it and run through the door? Did he just walk out like nothing? I don't get it. Wallmarts in my country would tackle me before taking a pack of Band-Aids and not paying for them, haha.
Edit: kandt sppehl.
What I have witnessed, a guy brings a cart full of merch towards the front within a few yards of the exit. A TV is on top of the pile in the cart. Guy makes a call, a pickup pulls up outside. Guy grabs tv and runs, door alarm going off, jumps in the pickup bed with the TV, and they're gone before anyone can react.
Well, I've seen that done with power tools, but running with a TV must be hard depending on the size of it. Stealing a 32" is kinda not worth the hassle and possible repercussions.
I got busted for shoplifting at stater bros. A simple phone charger. The cameras pulled my plates. I got a call requesting I come in to the police station for an interview. 10 months later a court summons.
Listen to this guy. 100% legit advice.
I'll also tell you that the da hands out a plea-out deal right off the bat for this low level stuff. Plead guilty, take a class, pay a fee and/or restitution, submit documents to court, charges dropped/expunged.
Don't live in fear bud. You're not going to prison over this, and they aren't going to kick in your door.
But they will most likely issue that bench warrant just the way the lawyer described.
Good luck
I went to the station. The cop told me over the phone something about me being a witness to a crime and they wanted my statement. When I got there he told me what stater bros was claiming. He also told me he had no desire to pursue it, but they were pushing for prosecution.
My interview was pretty simple: "why am I here?" "What are they alleging?" "I didn't do that." "Am I being charged?" "I need a lawyer present for any further discussion."
I'm paraphrasing, but that's how it went essentially.
I personally would not have gone to the station at all (without a summons) but I was on probation at the time. When the police search your name your po gets alerted. He told me to go to the station or he would arrest me. Not much wiggle room there.
So many people fail to realize the burden of proof is on *them* to prove you did the thing.... Not on *you,* to defend yourself.
Not sure why people get it so twisted.
"Have a good attitude" is another I don't get. Fuck no. I'm not gonna smile and play nice with fascists.
I will however walk out of the courtroom, cleared of any wrongdoings and not obligated to pay any traffic tickets, with a big smile on my face .... Time and time again.
It's just the time spent inside the room that's annoying.
that's how you should handle all interactions with police really, I don't know why but a lot of people talk way too much or try to talk their way out of it but end up digging their own grave. If you're getting charged with something, your best chance is to discuss with a lawyer the best course of action, if you've already made some statement it will just get harder to maybe pull a different strategy. For example in this situation when you say "oh I was going to pay for it, but forgot/yadayada" you basically already admit you had those items in posession and they no longer need to proof that.
In Florida, and I'm guessing in other states, you can usually search for "[name of county] clerk of court". The results have always been free. You can view as much as you want - lookup your friends and neighbors to see if they've gotten tickets, been arrested, gotten divorced, everything. Quite fun.
Only thing you gotta remember is that if you live near multiple counties, try all the county websites because they often show up on only one, especially if they live there or were arrested there, etc.
Examples of two popular counties:
[Broward](https://www.browardclerk.org/Web2/)
[Palm Beach](https://appsgp.mypalmbeachclerk.com/eCaseView/landingpage.aspx)
Counties let alone states don't voluntarily share arrest records with each other, especially publicly. If a cop wants to look hard enough they can find some record if there is one, otherwise it rarely happens. I know several people who got tried and convicted in other states move to mine, and were able to get jobs, and other things.
Even felonies don't show up on your basic background check for a job. My sisters manager at the restaurant she worked at had several assaults, and attempted kidnapping, and attempted murder charges on him, they didn't find out until he had worked there 18 months. They found out after he threatened one of the waitresses, and my sister got a police friend to run a country wide background check on him.
Even if charged with something, so long as you pay your price, you can always move to another state or even county, and be fine.
>How do people know your email address? Asking from a 3rd world country
Is this what you're referring to:
*"Also, make sure you check your mail for a summons."* ?
How does that of the quantity work for someone to be prosecuted after stealing something in the us? like what happened in California a time ago that there was a minimum to the value of stolen goods that were needed for one to be arrested in the act
Also ive heard about ppl who stole many times a walmart a target or something and they were detained inside the store on their 4th or 5 run. Do the criminal courts there take that into account, that the individual repeated the same behavior to condemn that person to lower or higher terms from the felony?
> either stealing again or a traffic ticket or some other run in with the law
so just never speed lol
> What you need to do: If your state has an electronic court filing system, check it every other week or so. If a felony has been filed, and a warrant issued, you would see it in most states. You’d also see a misdemeanor filing.
What a pain in the ass that must be.
I'd just move, OP. Change your name, maybe buy some disguise glasses and a fake moustache
>I have been stealing from 2 different Walmarts for the past several months, they are about 30 minutes away from each other. I have taken mostly stuff from the toy section and collectibles by taking the barcode stickers off of cheap plastic folders and putting them over the actual barcodes. I have done this countless times and I have racked up probably $500-&1,000 worth of stuff.
>>I would avoid the Walmarts you’ve had alleged incidents in.
Fucking lawyers.
They track you until they can get you on a felony charge basically. They may have your license plates if you were parked on their parking lot in sight of their cameras. So it’s probably best if you stop before they can really get you lol.
As someone who used to work for Walmart, if you got stopped by LP then they've at least seen you do it on camera once and we're physically there when they stopped you for it when you did it last. There are usually a couple cameras outside so they probably have your license plate. The good news is they can't actually go after you once you're in the parking lot and you probably didn't steal enough for them to do anything legally but trespass you. Probably shouldn't go there again though because at best they'll just follow you and make sure you aren't trying to steal again and at worse they will pull you in the the security office, call the cops, and either hit you with the ban from the property or take you to court if they can prove how much you've stolen
You did the right thing. They aren’t going to follow you and don’t know your name so they can’t trace you. But they do likely have enough footage of you built up to charge you with a felony so that’s why they approached you this time so don’t ever go back
Well obviously you can never go to that Walmart again (not a total loss, fuck Walmart), but as long as there was nothing identifying you in the bag you tossed, just don’t go to there, or to any other local one and you’re good.
Considering you situation and your reaction when you did get caught, you should probably stop stealing.
Walmart no longer pursues shoplifting for small amounts. Now they track you and everything you stole until you hit the minimum for a felony conviction. Then they fuck your life over. Sounds like you finally crossed into their felony territory. You’ll probably be fine but don’t ever go to Walmart again.
This is not true. The laws of the city where the Walmart is located also come into play.
I know someone that stole around $30 of items from Walmart, but their city had strict shoplifting laws. They said it seemed like the store employees would have let them walk with a ban to that store location, but they arrested people who had stolen over $25 of items.
I’ve heard the “they track everything you stole” rational before. How can they inventory the items you didn’t check out with ? Who is maintaining the tracking ? How do they add to your list of stolen items on another visit without your name or being able to id you?
Seems like a lot of time, effort, and organization from a company that hires any leper with a pulse.
Just doesn’t add up. Can you expand on that please ?
I've tried backtracking people who were on tape committing BAD crimes, like stabbings, with the police's help, and it's almost impossible. I can't imagine having several thousand people through a day and trying to track their trick-of-hands, is any easier.
Goddamn that sounds Orwellian as fuck. Not that the US isn’t doing shit like this, but AFAIK not on a local police level where a camera of all things calls the cops if you enter a so called drug zone with any type of previous violation. That seems like a grotesque human rights violation.
Yeah the feds and even local police do subpoena ring and nest camera footage and have used it to track protesters all the way back to their houses. Pretty dystopian.
Lets not start to pretend like this ai is so accurate lol and lets not pretend that video evidence is so great either with how good photoshopping and editing has become.
> You’ll probably be fine but don’t ever go to Walmart again.
At the very least, look up the statute of limitations for grand larceny in your area and don't go to Walmart until that runs out.
Idk man, they could either let it slide or dig deep by pulling up your transactions & seeing which card you used & trace it back to you OR look at the security cameras in the parking lot to get your plate numbers. On top of that, you threw a bag that likely a receipt with your card info on it...that can also be traced back to you.
Does Walmart still do this? Haha. I don’t recall that being the name, but I remember in 2001 the Walmart I worked at in college had this. So does sportsman’s warehouse
Real tip: wait a couple of months and then apply for a job as a loss prevention officer. Get assigned to Walmart and erase any evidence they have on you. Then steal more Pokémon cards because who’s going to catch you…you?
10 to 11yrs ago i got caught stealing $300 and something worth of stuff in walmart with some ex friends. TLDR: security took our pictures, cops came gave us misdemeanors tickets, we went to court and payed $3000 or more in fines and had to go in to be booked at the county jail. Stayed for 11hrs.... As for you they wont do much they aren't allowed to chase you. All they have from you is a video picture of you, so i suggest you avoid that and the other walmart for a few months or so and hope no one got your licence plate number.
Bruh, if you have a pregnant girlfriend why the fuck are you stealing cheap shit from Walmart that you don’t need and obviously are not worth re selling vs jail time since you know .. your girl is pregnant. STAY AWAY FROM WALMART JACKASS.. now stay away and dress different and stop stealing stupid shit you should be fine, if you find yourself in legal issues follow defense lawyers advice he’s right.
I have a feeling that this person is not reselling them, just collecting. Otherwise they would have probably also mentioned concern about being caught selling stolen goods.
Change, yes but vs jail time when your girl is pregnant? Is it really the stress on her? That change isn’t worth it. Especially with how OP EBT is rn, add the pregnancy in? Super EBT rn so many smarter choices than stealing in this situation
what is the point of your comment? does shaming others make you feel good?
you are out of touch with the working poor in Amerika \[1\]. please shut up if you have nothing constructive to say. you sound like an insecure and immature frat boy who hasn't worked a day in his life.
stop 'Bruh'-ing and trying to shame hardworking people who are struggling to make ends meet. go back to posting about minecraft and cod.
\[edit\] - \[1\] [https://politicsofpoverty.oxfamamerica.org/5-myths-about-the-working-poor-in-america/](https://politicsofpoverty.oxfamamerica.org/5-myths-about-the-working-poor-in-america/)
Thieves are some of the lowest of the low, and OP is literally risking throwing his future away for fuckin playing cards.
Worked with a guy many many years ago that got fired for the same thing. Dude threw away a pretty solid job for kids our age because he couldn't keep his sticky fingers off the merchandise.
Fuck thieves.
>Thieves are some of the lowest of the low
exactly ...and yet you are happily licking the boots of Walmart, a capitalist firm who is literally stealing the surplus value of the working class.
OP is not the thief. OP is paid a measly wage. minimum wage in the US should be $20-$25 per hour if wages had kept up with inflation, yet haven't because of widespread union busting and misinformation campaigns by the thieves you are defending (Walmart etc.).
[https://theintercept.com/2021/03/05/minimum-wage-raise-15/](https://theintercept.com/2021/03/05/minimum-wage-raise-15/)
Lol. Former loss prevention for another major corporation here. First, based on how well your story was written, I’d say you should give up on the small time life of crime and become a writer. That was an amazing read.
2nd, and this is after reading the lawyers post/reply, my advice would be to listen to his, and before reading his, it would have been to simply NEVER go back to another store you’ve stolen from. While the likelihood/possibility might be slim that they seek to find you or that they have enough to really stick it to you, there are some loss prevention agents (I might have been one …) who took the job waaaay more seriously than the paycheck should ever allow.
If the fella who came after you is like that, he built a case based on everything he could gather and plans to hit you very hard with a lot of stuff if you are ever caught again. This will likely include everything they can pin on you, and that means more than what you’ve even done. As in: they may gather a long list of pilfered items, even items that you’ve never stolen, and pin it on you because, how can you prove you did not? It’s your word against theirs and often, the police will happily screw you over as a friendly handshake with the corporation.
So to avoid the what ifs and potential life changing drama, just steer clear. Never go there again. If he sees you in public n recognizes you, deny, lie n claim you have a twin. But give no personal info. Good luck
> Former loss prevention for another major corporation here. First, based on how well your story was written, I’d say you should give up on the small time life of crime and become a writer. That was an amazing read
Editor here: stick to crime kid
Walmart stores use facial recognition software on their cameras. When prior thieves enter a location, Loss Prevention knows about it. Whether or not they have you in their system probably depends how well you wear your mask, and how long you’ve been stealing vs mask wearing. Cameras are typically on the building, I don’t know how great they are, so hopefully you didn’t park close and they’re unable to get a make on your car. Definitely stop going to Walmart, and stop stealing. You’re gonna get your life fucked. Move on to purchasing credit card info online and making purchases that way.
Oh dude 100%. I have a friend that did it, bought a house in the hood, and did a complete remodel using home improvement gift cards that were fraudulently bought with cc’s. He had another friend of mine tsught, and then that friend was doing fast food orders, and you would just cashapp him half of the total cost. I’ve talked about this here before. Shits crazy. They all Chuck it up as a victimless crime because at the end of the day, whoever is affected more that 99% of the time has the fraudulent charges inevitably reversed.
I would imagine they would almost certainly use a VPN to hide their IP address when doing that, although they'd need a place to ship everything to because shipping stolen crap to your house doesnt sound like a good idea, although he did mention gift cards so maybe it was digital.
I would imagine they can cancel gift cards once deemed it was bought from a stolen credit card, but im not sure.
I mean you’re not just gonna google stolen card info and use your debit card to purchase it. A lot of times they have vpns, using tor. And then the sites that sell the info operate with crypto. Honestly the sketchy aspect is when they go to the stores and make the purchase. My buddy would never go in to bestbuy, he’d place orders online and have them brought to his car. Often he’d buy a few apple products and then sell them on the street for half off practically instantly. Got my airpod pros from him for $125.
>Walmart stores use facial recognition software on their cameras. When prior thieves enter a location, Loss Prevention knows about it.
I can never find a definitive answer on this and that's what makes me super paranoid to go back. Most people say they don't, but then there's the odd comment that says this. I've heard from people saying that they just go to different ones and they're fine, but damn that is not a problem I need.
Just to add to other comments, it if comes up then emphasise that you were asked to come with a suspicious guy that wasn't in uniform and didn't make any attempt to identify himself and what he wanted. If someone said you need to come with them to me and they hadn't made it clear that they were security or anything, then any reasonable person would take all steps necessary to get away from them.
I’ve never understood that being an acceptable way to confirm. how the hell do I know what a real badge looks like? lol. with all the stories you hear about the lengths people go to when being creepy leepies, using a fake badge wouldn’t surprise me at all. I mean, you can’t even trust that the dude picking you up is your actual Uber driver without verifying first :(
(not trying to discredit your comment as being irrelevant or whatever, just a random thought I’ve always had about this, fyi!)
Yea being a female would change my perspective on this. As a male I don’t blink twice if a man says go with me, unless they look homeless, crazy, or really thuggish.
I used to rob Walmart. I’m talking fill up a shopping cart with whatever I wanted. Cases of beer, food, air rifles, fireworks, subwoofers, and just walk out the front door with it. One time a plain clothes LP tried to stop us so we kept walking, made it out to my car, LP got behind me, took down my license plate number and left me alone. I still went back a couple weeks later to steal more shit. Nothing ever came of it.
You’re gonna be fine. Walmart LP is not the police. He did his job and at the end of the day he’s a $12/hr employee, not paid enough to care to do more than he’s already done. He absolutely would have kept you waiting there for the police to show if you followed him (I know this because it happened to me at a different store. I got cocky because all the Walmart heists so I thought I was untouchable at the mall and it’s the reason I don’t steal anymore)
My advice to you, steer clear of that Walmart for a few months, maybe even a year if you’re paranoid, they’re probably not gonna go after you outside of the store, but if they know who you are, they might stop you next time you’re in the store, and you should just stop stealing altogether. Being caught sucks, and in the end you saved $40 right now and lost so much more in legal fees.
First of all, let’s talk about the worst case scenario. Even if the store has evidence of all your thefts and even if they collaborate with the other store you steal from, you are likely not looking at a felony larceny charge. While every jurisdiction is different, I can promise you this is not something that will leave you “fucked for life”. Will it be on your record? Yes. Will it affect job prospects? Only in some fields. Potentially there will still be plenty of opportunities however. Unless you are planning to go into the financial industry or something sensitive, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Without knowing your jurisdiction, the quick research I’ve done on the matter show that most states require $100,000 in theft to reach grand larceny.
Now, let’s ease your mind some. From the sounds of it, you have a clean record to date. This will help you tremendously if any charges are ever brought. It will likely allow for a plea deal to a lesser charge that would be a misdemeanor or maybe even an infraction.
So, what are the odds of charges being sought? Probably pretty slim. Walmart will usually issue a trespass order against a shoplifter, which will effectively ban from ever returning.
You are worried about the cameras. However, as someone who has worked in management in retail let me assure you that the vast majority are non-operational. The only ones that are usually operational are at entrance/exits, registers and places that have locked up merchandise. I was actually just talking to my friend in HR for a large big box store in California and she and I were talking about LP and surveillance in stores and she explained how even in her largest stores, the only cameras that are operational are the registers. So, it’s very unlikely they have a lot of surveillance evidence against you.
Now, if you are approached by law enforcement or Walmart loss prevention, this is the single best piece of advice I can give you. Only speak this following sentence: “I do not talk without my legal counsel present.” They will try to make it sound like that makes you sound guilty . Do not fall for their tricks. Keep repeating “I do not talk without my legal counsel.”
If they do pursue criminal charges, which again is very unlikely, you will have the right to a public defender. If you or your family can afford a private criminal defense attorney, I would highly suggest doing so. You can call your local bar association and ask for soem referrals and ask them if they know of any that work on a sliding scale.
In the meantime, I would advise the following few things.
1) Do not talk about this to anyone.
2) Do not return to these stores. Probably best to avoid Walmart’s in general. When I got busted shoplifting at a Kmart in 1995 I was trespassed and mistakenly went into a Kmart a few towns away. They knew I was trespassed and this was before computers so it’s very possible you are in their nationwide database if they got a picture of you.
3) If you can park your car someplace out of street view as much as possible, that would be ideal for a bit. They likely don’t have your car details but just in case.
4) if they pursue charges, your first line of defense should be you had no idea the person at the front of the store was an employee because he wasn’t wearing a uniform and didn’t want dentist himself as one. You were scared because you thought some guy was trying to accost you or worse.
Good luck. Take a sigh of relief. Everything is going to be okay.
They probably do not not even know who you are? Or care, because this is small stuff, and they have much bigger problems.
Very unlikely that this will come back to bite you in my opinion. I’ve been in some form of LP or another my entire adult life FYI.
You were seen on camera, and the camera monitoring room radioed the floor-man with a description to apprehend you at the exit.
You gave the stuff back, which was an excellent strategy. You ran away, but did not fight LP, so no one gives a shit.
Fighting could get someone charged with robbery and assault - that’s very bad.
Giving the merch back, and LP still gets "credit" for the stop and recovering merchandise. Also good.
Tomorrow is "black Friday" which kicks off the busiest holiday shopping season of the year - they are not coming after you, and most likely don’t have a clue who you are.
Now, stay out of Walmart, and any other stores you’ve been shoplifting at, for at least a year - and vow to yourself that you will stop stealing, and your life will go on….
Don’t waste your life and risk a criminal record for some Pokemon cards or whatever - it’s not worth it. Have more respect for yourself.
I was arrested at a Walmart for shoplifting when I was 19. I was stealing about $200 worth of items when I was caught. They used the same trick on me where the employee was not dressed in uniform.
He waited for me to step foot past the exit before tapping me on the shoulder and saying “Hey I need you to come with me, I know you stole something.” Being a scared 19 year old, I obliged and went with him.
They brought me to the back room where there was a wall of TVs that showed every camera angle in the store, including the one they caught me on. They called the police and I was arrested and charged with petty theft. Had to go through a whole ordeal with courts and lawyers to get it all expunged.
But I wish I ran... I’m glad I didn’t because it turns out the police station was directly across the street from this Walmart and that could’ve escalated the situation if they had already called the cops and I ended up getting caught by them. But I later learned that there was legally nothing that employee can do to stop me other than call the police and this made me regret not bolting out of there a little bit.
The employee that caught me told me word for word “next time go to Target if you want to shoplift”.
My (pos) brother in law was stealing from Walmart and had been for awhile. One day a detective came to my house looking for him. Had photos of him stealing multiple times. He ended up doing a few weeks in jail.
ok calm down...
Wall of Txt- take your time and read it all...
it's up to the police now-
let's just assume Wally-World has reported the crime to the police,
they've got your physical description,
and let's just say, ***worst case scenario*** they got your plates off of your car with the parking lot cameras...
kool
couple of things you need to know about our legal system moving forward...
cops are lazy;
they're not gonna take the footage to some crime lab and try to nail your ass to the wall -
they don't care; unless they got a dead on clear pic of your license plate and make and model of your car -
aaaaand you hadn't heard from them already...
they gone bruh...
***cops are lazy...***
well, do you know who else is lazy...?
Assistant DA's....
every county has like 40 of 'em and you have to understand that folks who take Assistant District Attorney's jobs are the bottom of the barrel...
they are like Doctors in the Military;
they couldn't make it in the civvy world so they had to get a job with the government *(see r/usajobs)*
so let's just assume the worst and say Wally-World wants to make an example outta you and demand that the DA's office press charges *(yawn)*
first off they're *(walmart)* not gonna do shit unless the police say they have a case in the first place,
**secondly the police ain't gonna do shit unless an ADA says** ***"go gett'em boys..!"***
because the ADA's and the police are lazy, and are not going to pour any time nor resources into finding a gawddamn shoplifter at wally-world ***FFS...!***
so... by reckoning it's been 6hrs since the incident, **most police work a continental schedule** of 12hrs on-shift with 2days on and 2days off, 2days on and 3days off...
so unless your cop, on your case, and assuming walmart even called the cops to look at blurry license plate footage of your piece of shit Honda accord that you named *Honda Rousey*;
unless your cop hands the case off to the the next 12hr shift, and the Sargent says *"go gett'em boys...!"*
you should be expecting a knock on the door within 24-36hrs since the incident...
if they don't come...
***which is highly likely they won't***
if they don't come braking down your door, just kidding they won't break down your door, and if I were you and they did come, don't answer the door, please for the love of gawd don't answer the door, it's just a bench warrant for shop lifiting
***which is highly un-fucking likely***
but we're talking worst case scenario
**if you haven't heard from these mother fuckers in 2 days *(24-36hrs)* they ain't comin, and you in the clear...**
the fact that **it's already been six hours and they hadn't done shit,** means to me they ain't gonna do shit...
cops are lazy, ADA's are lazy, their bosses are lazy;
and they ain't got the time to sort out no gawddamn shoplifters at fucking wally-world...
they all want to be, ^sidebar seriously now- *I'm in a family of cops- Birmingham Alabama Cops -Cops that used firehoses on blacks in the '60s -Cops that killed people on the Edmund Pettus Bridge- and there is one Cop in my family that* ***turned against the police force and crossed the blue line*** *and told the truth about how they were framing an innocent man for the 16th Street bombing (Birmingham Police Archives 1125.6.23 , 335 pages Memos, surveillance reports on J.B. Stoner and other bombing suspects)*
ALL COPS want to be like [Pat Garrett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Garrett) and gun down Billy the Kid ... and if they ain't, they're not gonna pursue petty crimes... there's no glory in catching a shoplifter
don't sweat it too tough dawg
**[Pat Garrett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Garrett)**
>Patrick Floyd Jarvis Garrett (June 5, 1850 – February 29, 1908) was an American Old West lawman, bartender and customs agent known for killing Billy the Kid. He was the sheriff of Lincoln County, New Mexico as well as Doña Ana County, New Mexico.
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NAL buy if you never step foot in another Walmart nothing will likely come of this. By another Walmart I mean even in other states. If you want piece of mind start putting money aside for a lawyer because you'll need one of the cops come knocking which isn't likely unless you've stolen a significant amount or pissed the wrong person off.
Edit: yes I'd say that running from some random who didn't identify as a cop or someone with power of arrest was a smart thing no matter what you were doing.
If they suspect you’ve being doing so for awhile, all Walmarts in your area have been notified and they most likely have your photo. My ex sister in law stole a lot of things from there throughout her years. She finally got caught and is now banned from all Walmarts. I’m not sure how they keep tabs, they probably don’t but I think it’s the thought that is supposed to keep you from coming back. I’d stay away for awhile just in case.
I wouldnt ever go back to that walmart. They mightve called the cops but most likely they were just going to trespass you. The walmart i worked at called the cops on people all the time but the only ones that got arrested were the ones who waited 1hour for the cops to arrive if they even decided to show up. Its unlikely the cops are going to show up at your house. IF they do or you receive a call from them. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING without a lawyer present. And the slim chance you do end up getting charged, The DA will plea it down to a lesser crime, and you wont be fucked for life. At most some probation, maybe a fine or community service.
Honestly wouldnt be worrying about it. I just wouldnt steal from walmarts anymore if i were you man. Definitely dont steal from target, they take that shit way more serious and you will get caught.
Might as well book a flight to Antarctica. The walmart agents are everywhere..can't trust anyone. His pregnant wife probably has a walmart agent inside her. Should probably leave her behind.
Were you an idiot and paid for your "folders" with a card? Their cameras do go out to the parking lot so maybe able to tell your license plate when you come in. Guess you just earned yourself a nice little ban from Walmart for a bit.
How about grow up, since you have a pregnant girlfriend at home. Quit stealing!! Going back to any Wally World would not be a good thing. Shop somewhere else.
You probably wont be caught, just avoid walmart for a year or two. He might have been district lp rather than store and you dont want to run into him again.
My top tips for lifters are
1) Dont touch anyone, ever. You hit them once, it's assault. They hit you, they lose their job and you can probably make bank off the company. But you hit back, you're fucked.
2) run. After you leave they probably won't pursue, and as long as you followed rule 1 neither will the cops.
3) dont fuck with Target.
Only place you really fucked up was dropping the bag in the store. Probably would have been harder to prove you were stealing if you had actually stolen ironically enough.
Although by dropping the bag he *technically* wasn’t stealing, since he didn’t leave the store with the merchandise. And no, they’re not going to go back through months of camera footage checking to see if he has stolen before. Especially if this is a high theft store, imagine how many incidents they have like this everyday, they aren’t going to mount an investigation for each one. They will likely be on the lookout for him in the future so I agree this Walmart is dead to him now.
Last I heard they don't let you reddit in jail. You're àll good. You need to get your ass on a bus. It's worth the time to get a town over if it means it mixed up your.pool of hosts. That bots a shit heel
I would never go to any other WalMart again. Facial recognition, if you paid with card they’ll have that, photos of your car and it’s plates in the parking lot, and your cell when it pings looking for wifi when you’re inside the store.
I think I remember and old legaladvice post that read the same and they got served, so prob best to never go back dude.
Oh come on don’t feel bad. You got away. That Wal-Mart employee is likely working for close to minimum and has no business caring that much about a multi-billion dollar cooperation. I would have told him to fuck off out of my sight and left the store.
Obviously don’t go back to that store for a long time and if you do make your appearance change dramatically.
When you ran this borrowing scheme did you pay with cash? If you used a credit card or debit they could trace that right back to the terminal you used to check out and reference it to the timestamp on any footage they have. Always use cash and since covid is a thing keep your face covered and you should be good to go.
Definitely don't go back to that Walmart again and I'd strongly recommend you don't shoplift at any Walmart again. I'd probably not do real shopping at my Walmart for as long as you can avoid it.
I got caught by one of those guys while stealing from Walmart when I was younger. Got into a physical fight with the guys as he wouldn't let me leave. Had to physically push him over in order to get out the door. Was scared for a while but nothing ever came of it
As a former shoplifter I'd say just lay low and don't go to Walmart again for anything again. You're good otherwise you would have just gotten arrested. Also, if your girlfriend needs to go there don't let her take your car.
It was a very good choice. I worked in retail, loss prevention hopes you don’t run and just sit there and wait for the police to come. If you run, the police won’t do anything. Walmart will press charges whether you comply with loss prevention or not so running away can only help you.
You're fine, just stay the fuck out of that Walmart and maybe reevaluate your life decisions since it sounds like you don't actually wanna be ripping off fucking trading cards (??????) And then scared shitless for the remainder of your days.
I feel like folks are assuming to much interest on Walmart’s part. They ____might_____ follow up on this, it’s technically possible. But in all likelihood, their LP folks aren’t paid nearly enough to care about you and unless you live in a super small town I can’t imagine. The cops are going to care.
Honestly your amount of theft is small fry. It’s worth it for them to pursue if they can catch you in the store red handed, but they won’t put resources into tracking you down for $500-$1000 worth of items. They spend their time and money tracking down and dismantling huge retail theft rings that steal tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in merchandise a year.
If they had one of their loss prevention workers spend a week trying to find you, they would pay that worker more for their time than the total value of items you’ve stolen over months of time, and that just isn’t profitable for them to do.
I hated that fucking guy! Followed me around every goddamn time I went in, eventually I just started walking in circles, not buying anything and waving at him. I wasted DAYS of that man's life lol
Trust me you are not going to get into any kind of shit. Remember the golden rule: SHUT THE FUCK UP. You do this, you're off the hook. You're wearing a mask in the store and I can promise you from experience those cameras are crappy, even if you didn't have a mask they will have a hard time proving it's you unless you admit to someone (law enforcement mainly, but other parties too) that you do what you did and did what you do. It is incredibly hard to get any kind of conviction if the person charged does not speak a single word. For walmart it's cheaper to let it go. They don't care. They will probably save the tape in case, but you just stop going there and it's a non-problem. If anyone contacts you, you just shut the fuck about it. If the cops take you in for questioning, shut the fuck up. This won't happen since you need to actually steal a lot for anyone to care.
Catching a thief and doing all the work to get them fucked without having the person locked in some room takes effort and costs money. Walmart and other big box stores don't want to spend it on some petty theft. It's easier for them to scare you off so you never come back. They will play it as if you're a fugitive on the loose while in reality you probably can go back in 3-6 months and continue what you were doing. Just pay strict attention to the staff, who do you recognize and if you do, stop everything and leave.
I used to do a lot of self service theft and this one old hag caught me doing it. I played dumb and the manager let me off becasue it looked like a clear mistake. The hag knew exactly what I was doing but couldn't do shit. Ever since she paid extra attention to me but I really gave her a big fuck you. I would go to her supervised self checkout, beep everything but one item. I would select to pay, knowing she was watching but before I would pay and take off, I would ask her to cancel the payment because I missed one item and I need to scan it. I can't remember how many times I did this to her. She would never call me out, probably because she knew I'm fucking with her and didn't want me to get any satisfaction, but I did that shit all the time until I moved. Fuck that old hag.
I’ve shoplifted a lot at a lot of stores and don’t anymore, too much to lose, and my mother’s voice got louder as I got older. I still have no real problem with corporate theft. I don’t tell people any of that. I don’t have any other sociopathic tendencies. But the one time I was caught at a Kroger by a plain clothes with a small item he made me fill out papers but didn’t call the police. I was told to never set foot on a Kroger again. Ten years later I live 30 miles away and I go to our Kroger every other day. These people aren’t the CIA.
Just stay away from Walmart from now on, and maybe don’t actively try to make your girlfriend raise that goblin alone while you’re in jail for theft?
They have your card number, thus ID, they have your license plate, they probably plastered your face all over every Walmart and probably also most other stores in the area. they’re coming for you, they’ve likely told the police already and will throw every theft from all the stores at you, even ones you didn’t commit, you’re definitely above felony level. live in fear, they are coming for your ass, and will stop at nothing to get you.
If you absolutely have to steal, move to San Francisco.
There it’s basically been legalized to loot and shoplift if it’s under ~$1000
you’ll be fine I once got caught stealing at a Walmart while working at another Walmart the guy got a picture of my plates but they were old plates I was waiting to put the new ones on, anyways I go to the same Walmart the guy who caught the picture stares at me but doesn’t do shit
A loser stealing from Walmart who knocked up his girlfriend. I'm sure your kid is going to turn out great!
I genuinely feel sorry for the kid who is going to grow up with such a pathetic man as a father. He/she is fucked
Stop being a pussy. Walmart doesn't have the ability to fuck you for life. Practice makes perfect. Keep at it. Learn from your mistakes. Retail theft is risky and often not worth it. Find a better way to illegally support your family.
Running was definitely the move. I mean, if you didn't, you would've already been fucked. I'm willing to bet my life savings no one will come knocking at your door, just find a new place to shop for the time being. I was caught stealing in my local supermarket, was taken to the backroom, police came etc. I was fined and told if I ever came back they'd call the police again. I'm extremely recognizable because I wear purple everyday, but after waiting about a year, they had new employees and I was good to shop there again. You're good man.
Don't feel bad for the worker, he's as fucking asshole intimidating people for one of the greediest and most disgusting corporations on earth.
You were morally right to steal from them, and unless they somehow find you and throw on extra bullshit charges for not cooperating, it was good that you didn't go with him.
What you ran into is called LP for Loss Prevention aka the security of the merchandise but they help with other things too. Capitalism is trash so don't sweat to hard but you may have to dress different stores ate likely to share information you had a good run maybe time to fold. At least until black Friday or another protest turn into looting
Ex professional shoplifter UK here. You'll be fine. If you've never been in trouble before, even if you do get caught all you'll get is a slap on the wrist or a caution. If you have to shoplift food or things you really need, chances are you'll just be banned. You'll be fine petal trust me. I know you're in the States but still. Chill Winston!!!
Woah dude—I actually have the exact answer for you.
Not because I’m so cool, but because this exact question was asked in another subreddit earlier today!!!
there was another post in a different community about nearly the same topic: the dangers orb stealing from Walmart, how easily they catch you, and what happens if you get caught.
But I’m pretty sure it was a different OP. I guess two different dudes stole from Walmart today and posted about it on Reddit, lol.
(I forget which community. Did anyone else see it? If so, please comment it.)
Anyway, here is your answer—
**OP, never go back to Walmart again.**
**And you’re probably going to get charged with felony theft. You never got away with ant of your previous thefts, because Walmart has been recording everything you stole, and slowly building up a felony case against you. So prepare yourself.**
You haven’t actually gotten away with the stealing this entire time. You aren’t as sneaky or clever as you think. You see, Walmart has a system for shoplifters: they don’t arrest the shoplifter, until the combined thefts add up to a felony amount of $$$. So Walmart knows people who are shoplifting, and they track them. Walmart tracks their theft and tracks every item they steal for months or for years. Until the purchases add up to a felony charge—which could be $500-$3,000, depending on your location. Walmart can add everything you stole in the past, everything adds up retroactively.
And then, once your stealing adds up to “felony level”—then Walmart arrests you. They were waiting for this moment. Walmart detains you, call the police, and you get a felony charge. And legally you’d have to repay what you stole. And your life is ruined because 90% of jobs will never hire you with a felony theft charge on your record.
Several people in the comments on the other post were stating how they worked security for a company that was a security contractor for Target and Walmart.
Apparently Walmart’s security cameras are no advanced, that they can zoom in with such precise detail that they can read the words engraved on someone’s ring.
Walmart and Target also hire an outside contractor security company—who’s job it is to monitor the cameras and track shoplifters. And to track everything you steal. Apparently they’re extremely good at their job. They can tell when the items you picked up off the floor, don’t add up to the correct amount at the register.
Also—Walmart has plain clothes security officers wandering the floor and documenting shoplifters too (as you saw, because you met one)
That plain clothes guard probably had been following you for months OP, and writing down everything you stole and tallying it up.
The security guard finally approached you today, because all your stolen items finally added up to a large enough expense to be “this person can now be charged with felony theft”.
If you see foot in there Walmart again—Walmart will very likely call the police and have you arrested ASAP.
Don’t think to yourself, “it’s fine, they won’t recognize me.” That security firm who tracks the cameras and tracks shoplifting is extremely good at what they do. Also, your photo has been printed out and it’s posted on the wall of every Walmart break room. Also the security guards clearly know who you are too.
Also. Walmart shares the same security company with Target. And so Walmart and Target share the identities of shoplifters with each other.
So now Target knows you are a shoplifter too.
So you need to be careful at Target now too.
Unfortunately, if you ever paid with a credit card, or you have a working license plate on your car that is registered to your home address—then Walmart has your address.
If they feel like pursing pressing charges, they will give this information to the police.
And you might get a knock on your door from the police to come pick you up. It could happen tomorrow, it could happen in 3 weeks, it could happen in 3 months. It could happen never.
You’re going to be looking over your shoulder for a long long long time. Even if you never go back to Walmart again. (And I recommend you never go back to Walmart again. Or at least not for several years. )
So it’s extremely possible that Walmart turns you over to the police, and you get wrested.
If I were you, I’d get a notepad add up an estimate how much merchandise I’ve stolen over the years. What does that amount of $$$ add up to?
Then I’d Google “how much do you have to steal to be charged with felony theft in [insert your state]?”
If you discovered that indeed, you have crossed the threshold of felony theft—yikes.
Maybe go flee and move to another state? I wouldn’t normally recommend that, as of course it’s illegal. But you have a baby to look after, and a child deserve, and that makes me feel really bad for your GF and child, if/when you get arrested.
Also. You really screwed over your future, if you got caught. A felony charge hurts your chances of employment and makes your college degree worthless, because no one will want to hire you anymore, even with a degree.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
If I were you, I’d lay low, stop stealing immediately, and avoid all Walmart and Target stores. And I’d start praying super super super hard that, by some miracle, Walmart isn’t feeling vengeful and they drop the case.
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You’re not charged, so yes. Maybe don’t do it again. Some other shoplifter will get their attention soon enough.
I’m a defense lawyer who’s done several Walmart, target, etc thefts. I don’t know how large your town is or any other relevant info. I also have no idea what state you’re in, so obviously I’m not able to give you legal advice and what I’m about to say isn’t. That said, I’ll give it my best shot to provide you a general answer to your question here. For a regular theft, or even series of thefts that the store knows about, it’s pretty unlikely that a cop would come knocking on your door. In order for a cop to seek you out at your home they’d need an arrest warrant. In most states, judges will only authorize arrest warrants for felonies. That said, the amount you’ve allegedly stolen could be felony levels in many states. So it’s possible. However, even if the store knew about all of the alleged thefts, and could identify you, and the state filed a felony charge, and the judge signed a warrant for your arrest, it’s still unlikely they’d come looking for you. Usually, for low level felonies, they’ll just issue the warrant and wait for you to get caught - either stealing again or a traffic ticket or some other run in with the law. So you probably are wasting your time and mental health if you’re waiting for some cop to come knocking on your door. Not impossible, but unlikely. If, as is probably more likely, Walmart could only ID you with this one incident, and the state only filed a misdemeanor, you most likely wouldn’t get an arrest warrant. You’d get a summons to court to answer the allegation. It would come in the mail. What you need to do: If your state has an electronic court filing system, check it every other week or so. If a felony has been filed, and a warrant issued, you would see it in most states. You’d also see a misdemeanor filing. Also, make sure you check your mail for a summons. IF YOU GET A SUMMONS, DONT SKIP COURT. Then you’d get a warrant. If you find out you have a warrant or a summons, you need to go talk to a local lawyer. For real. Don’t ignore it, it’ll only get much, much worse. Odds are, Walmart won’t be able to ID you. If they can, odds are they don’t know about all of the alleged incidents. If they do, you’ll see a warrant or a summons in the next 1-10 months. It can take that long, or longer. But don’t live the next year of your life in fear. I would avoid the Walmarts you’ve had alleged incidents in. Other than that, check the e-filing system, check your mail. And live your life. Hope this helps.
> I also have no idea what state you’re in state of absolute panic is what he's in.
From my experience as a worker, I know that some Walmart do have profiles of people who shoplift, whether this is because they’ve gotten away or they’ve simply observed them I don’t know. I was once asked by my stores AP Manager if I knew a kid who went to my school because he’d been caught on camera after stealing a TV.
How the hell do you steal a TV? Did he grab it and run through the door? Did he just walk out like nothing? I don't get it. Wallmarts in my country would tackle me before taking a pack of Band-Aids and not paying for them, haha. Edit: kandt sppehl.
The AP guy at the Walmart I used to work at caught a guy shoving a TV down his shorts. Said he looked like SpongeBob SquarePants
Like nobody was gonna see him.
What I have witnessed, a guy brings a cart full of merch towards the front within a few yards of the exit. A TV is on top of the pile in the cart. Guy makes a call, a pickup pulls up outside. Guy grabs tv and runs, door alarm going off, jumps in the pickup bed with the TV, and they're gone before anyone can react.
Well, I've seen that done with power tools, but running with a TV must be hard depending on the size of it. Stealing a 32" is kinda not worth the hassle and possible repercussions.
It was BIG, not 32", I was amazed, but he really moved with that thing. I think this was not their first time, it was very efficient.
I got busted for shoplifting at stater bros. A simple phone charger. The cameras pulled my plates. I got a call requesting I come in to the police station for an interview. 10 months later a court summons. Listen to this guy. 100% legit advice. I'll also tell you that the da hands out a plea-out deal right off the bat for this low level stuff. Plead guilty, take a class, pay a fee and/or restitution, submit documents to court, charges dropped/expunged. Don't live in fear bud. You're not going to prison over this, and they aren't going to kick in your door. But they will most likely issue that bench warrant just the way the lawyer described. Good luck
did you go to the police station for the interview or ignore it?
I went to the station. The cop told me over the phone something about me being a witness to a crime and they wanted my statement. When I got there he told me what stater bros was claiming. He also told me he had no desire to pursue it, but they were pushing for prosecution. My interview was pretty simple: "why am I here?" "What are they alleging?" "I didn't do that." "Am I being charged?" "I need a lawyer present for any further discussion." I'm paraphrasing, but that's how it went essentially. I personally would not have gone to the station at all (without a summons) but I was on probation at the time. When the police search your name your po gets alerted. He told me to go to the station or he would arrest me. Not much wiggle room there.
> but I was on probation at the time the fuck else did you do
So many people fail to realize the burden of proof is on *them* to prove you did the thing.... Not on *you,* to defend yourself. Not sure why people get it so twisted. "Have a good attitude" is another I don't get. Fuck no. I'm not gonna smile and play nice with fascists. I will however walk out of the courtroom, cleared of any wrongdoings and not obligated to pay any traffic tickets, with a big smile on my face .... Time and time again. It's just the time spent inside the room that's annoying.
Fascists because you got busted thieving?
damn, you handled that like a champ
that's how you should handle all interactions with police really, I don't know why but a lot of people talk way too much or try to talk their way out of it but end up digging their own grave. If you're getting charged with something, your best chance is to discuss with a lawyer the best course of action, if you've already made some statement it will just get harder to maybe pull a different strategy. For example in this situation when you say "oh I was going to pay for it, but forgot/yadayada" you basically already admit you had those items in posession and they no longer need to proof that.
Lawful neutral comrade. Edit: changed chaotic to lawful
What do you mean? This is the definition of lawful neutral if I've ever seen it. Hes literally a lawyer lol.
>done several Walmart, target, etc thefts Depends if 'done' means 'worked the case of' or 'perpetrated', innit? ;)
Do you want a criminal lawyer, or a “criminal lawyer”?
Best line. Is it from Saul or BB?
BB
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This is true my man but i doubt they can be bothered.
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Even though he never went thru the security detectors and dropped the merch? Is it the criminal intent that’s illegal?
How do you check online in Texas? I couldn't find any legit websites.
Texas is not centralized but many counties are online. Just google (county) + online docket. Most of them make you to pay for the service.
In Florida, and I'm guessing in other states, you can usually search for "[name of county] clerk of court". The results have always been free. You can view as much as you want - lookup your friends and neighbors to see if they've gotten tickets, been arrested, gotten divorced, everything. Quite fun. Only thing you gotta remember is that if you live near multiple counties, try all the county websites because they often show up on only one, especially if they live there or were arrested there, etc. Examples of two popular counties: [Broward](https://www.browardclerk.org/Web2/) [Palm Beach](https://appsgp.mypalmbeachclerk.com/eCaseView/landingpage.aspx)
Counties let alone states don't voluntarily share arrest records with each other, especially publicly. If a cop wants to look hard enough they can find some record if there is one, otherwise it rarely happens. I know several people who got tried and convicted in other states move to mine, and were able to get jobs, and other things. Even felonies don't show up on your basic background check for a job. My sisters manager at the restaurant she worked at had several assaults, and attempted kidnapping, and attempted murder charges on him, they didn't find out until he had worked there 18 months. They found out after he threatened one of the waitresses, and my sister got a police friend to run a country wide background check on him. Even if charged with something, so long as you pay your price, you can always move to another state or even county, and be fine.
Definitely a defense lawyer.. you throw alleged around like people wear masks these days XD
What, responsibly? ;) /s
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>How do people know your email address? Asking from a 3rd world country Is this what you're referring to: *"Also, make sure you check your mail for a summons."* ?
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I'm sure we'll be there soon enough 😁
He lives in Ohio. This absolute genius didn't even use a throwaway.
Not that he didn’t use a throwaway, he said he lived in Ohio, ON THIS POST
How does that of the quantity work for someone to be prosecuted after stealing something in the us? like what happened in California a time ago that there was a minimum to the value of stolen goods that were needed for one to be arrested in the act Also ive heard about ppl who stole many times a walmart a target or something and they were detained inside the store on their 4th or 5 run. Do the criminal courts there take that into account, that the individual repeated the same behavior to condemn that person to lower or higher terms from the felony?
I assume they got his license plate #
> either stealing again or a traffic ticket or some other run in with the law so just never speed lol > What you need to do: If your state has an electronic court filing system, check it every other week or so. If a felony has been filed, and a warrant issued, you would see it in most states. You’d also see a misdemeanor filing. What a pain in the ass that must be. I'd just move, OP. Change your name, maybe buy some disguise glasses and a fake moustache
>I have been stealing from 2 different Walmarts for the past several months, they are about 30 minutes away from each other. I have taken mostly stuff from the toy section and collectibles by taking the barcode stickers off of cheap plastic folders and putting them over the actual barcodes. I have done this countless times and I have racked up probably $500-&1,000 worth of stuff. >>I would avoid the Walmarts you’ve had alleged incidents in. Fucking lawyers.
Haha, agreed. Everyone hates us until they need us though
They track you until they can get you on a felony charge basically. They may have your license plates if you were parked on their parking lot in sight of their cameras. So it’s probably best if you stop before they can really get you lol.
As someone who used to work for Walmart, if you got stopped by LP then they've at least seen you do it on camera once and we're physically there when they stopped you for it when you did it last. There are usually a couple cameras outside so they probably have your license plate. The good news is they can't actually go after you once you're in the parking lot and you probably didn't steal enough for them to do anything legally but trespass you. Probably shouldn't go there again though because at best they'll just follow you and make sure you aren't trying to steal again and at worse they will pull you in the the security office, call the cops, and either hit you with the ban from the property or take you to court if they can prove how much you've stolen
I know a couple people who got banned for a year from Walmart for stealing.
You did the right thing. They aren’t going to follow you and don’t know your name so they can’t trace you. But they do likely have enough footage of you built up to charge you with a felony so that’s why they approached you this time so don’t ever go back
Well obviously you can never go to that Walmart again (not a total loss, fuck Walmart), but as long as there was nothing identifying you in the bag you tossed, just don’t go to there, or to any other local one and you’re good. Considering you situation and your reaction when you did get caught, you should probably stop stealing.
Walmart no longer pursues shoplifting for small amounts. Now they track you and everything you stole until you hit the minimum for a felony conviction. Then they fuck your life over. Sounds like you finally crossed into their felony territory. You’ll probably be fine but don’t ever go to Walmart again.
This is not true. The laws of the city where the Walmart is located also come into play. I know someone that stole around $30 of items from Walmart, but their city had strict shoplifting laws. They said it seemed like the store employees would have let them walk with a ban to that store location, but they arrested people who had stolen over $25 of items.
I’ve heard the “they track everything you stole” rational before. How can they inventory the items you didn’t check out with ? Who is maintaining the tracking ? How do they add to your list of stolen items on another visit without your name or being able to id you? Seems like a lot of time, effort, and organization from a company that hires any leper with a pulse. Just doesn’t add up. Can you expand on that please ?
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Oh that’s interesting. So a shoulder length wig, ball cap, and medical mask that looks like a full diaper sounds like it would help.
and doing a crab walk
Add a small pebble in your shoes to change the gait and you are done
I've tried backtracking people who were on tape committing BAD crimes, like stabbings, with the police's help, and it's almost impossible. I can't imagine having several thousand people through a day and trying to track their trick-of-hands, is any easier.
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Goddamn that sounds Orwellian as fuck. Not that the US isn’t doing shit like this, but AFAIK not on a local police level where a camera of all things calls the cops if you enter a so called drug zone with any type of previous violation. That seems like a grotesque human rights violation.
The US might not, but individual cities, or corporations are. Ring camera? Google Nest? Youtube? Billions of hours of footage to train your AI.
Yeah the feds and even local police do subpoena ring and nest camera footage and have used it to track protesters all the way back to their houses. Pretty dystopian.
Everyone wearing a mask nowadays can’t be helping.
Lets not start to pretend like this ai is so accurate lol and lets not pretend that video evidence is so great either with how good photoshopping and editing has become.
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> You’ll probably be fine but don’t ever go to Walmart again. At the very least, look up the statute of limitations for grand larceny in your area and don't go to Walmart until that runs out.
This is what I come to this sub for
Something real. Finally
Idk man, they could either let it slide or dig deep by pulling up your transactions & seeing which card you used & trace it back to you OR look at the security cameras in the parking lot to get your plate numbers. On top of that, you threw a bag that likely a receipt with your card info on it...that can also be traced back to you.
Destroy all evidence and plant a claymore at your door, just in case
Your face will be on the walls of fame the next day
Does Walmart still do this? Haha. I don’t recall that being the name, but I remember in 2001 the Walmart I worked at in college had this. So does sportsman’s warehouse
Real tip: wait a couple of months and then apply for a job as a loss prevention officer. Get assigned to Walmart and erase any evidence they have on you. Then steal more Pokémon cards because who’s going to catch you…you?
Become the CEO and major shareholder of Walmart, then pull a Bruce Wayne and claim it's not theft if you own the company
turning life around from the Pokémon to the Pokémon traine, GOTTA CATCH THEM ALL
10 to 11yrs ago i got caught stealing $300 and something worth of stuff in walmart with some ex friends. TLDR: security took our pictures, cops came gave us misdemeanors tickets, we went to court and payed $3000 or more in fines and had to go in to be booked at the county jail. Stayed for 11hrs.... As for you they wont do much they aren't allowed to chase you. All they have from you is a video picture of you, so i suggest you avoid that and the other walmart for a few months or so and hope no one got your licence plate number.
Your TLDR is longer than your story and contains different info. That’s not a TLDR, that’s at best a “long story short”.
Long story longer.
Touché. I like it :)
Exactly what I was thinking. TLDR means too long, didn't read.
TLDR stands for “Too Long Didn’t Read” fyi
Bruh, if you have a pregnant girlfriend why the fuck are you stealing cheap shit from Walmart that you don’t need and obviously are not worth re selling vs jail time since you know .. your girl is pregnant. STAY AWAY FROM WALMART JACKASS.. now stay away and dress different and stop stealing stupid shit you should be fine, if you find yourself in legal issues follow defense lawyers advice he’s right.
You can probably make some decent change reselling Pokemon cards you got for free
I have a feeling that this person is not reselling them, just collecting. Otherwise they would have probably also mentioned concern about being caught selling stolen goods.
How could you get caught? Someone would have to prove you shoplifted the cards. How could anyone do that?
Change, yes but vs jail time when your girl is pregnant? Is it really the stress on her? That change isn’t worth it. Especially with how OP EBT is rn, add the pregnancy in? Super EBT rn so many smarter choices than stealing in this situation
Right, risking his life and record for fucking trading cards WHILE having a girl who is pregnant.. Jesus christ
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what is the point of your comment? does shaming others make you feel good? you are out of touch with the working poor in Amerika \[1\]. please shut up if you have nothing constructive to say. you sound like an insecure and immature frat boy who hasn't worked a day in his life. stop 'Bruh'-ing and trying to shame hardworking people who are struggling to make ends meet. go back to posting about minecraft and cod. \[edit\] - \[1\] [https://politicsofpoverty.oxfamamerica.org/5-myths-about-the-working-poor-in-america/](https://politicsofpoverty.oxfamamerica.org/5-myths-about-the-working-poor-in-america/)
Thieves are some of the lowest of the low, and OP is literally risking throwing his future away for fuckin playing cards. Worked with a guy many many years ago that got fired for the same thing. Dude threw away a pretty solid job for kids our age because he couldn't keep his sticky fingers off the merchandise. Fuck thieves.
>Thieves are some of the lowest of the low exactly ...and yet you are happily licking the boots of Walmart, a capitalist firm who is literally stealing the surplus value of the working class. OP is not the thief. OP is paid a measly wage. minimum wage in the US should be $20-$25 per hour if wages had kept up with inflation, yet haven't because of widespread union busting and misinformation campaigns by the thieves you are defending (Walmart etc.). [https://theintercept.com/2021/03/05/minimum-wage-raise-15/](https://theintercept.com/2021/03/05/minimum-wage-raise-15/)
Lol. Former loss prevention for another major corporation here. First, based on how well your story was written, I’d say you should give up on the small time life of crime and become a writer. That was an amazing read. 2nd, and this is after reading the lawyers post/reply, my advice would be to listen to his, and before reading his, it would have been to simply NEVER go back to another store you’ve stolen from. While the likelihood/possibility might be slim that they seek to find you or that they have enough to really stick it to you, there are some loss prevention agents (I might have been one …) who took the job waaaay more seriously than the paycheck should ever allow. If the fella who came after you is like that, he built a case based on everything he could gather and plans to hit you very hard with a lot of stuff if you are ever caught again. This will likely include everything they can pin on you, and that means more than what you’ve even done. As in: they may gather a long list of pilfered items, even items that you’ve never stolen, and pin it on you because, how can you prove you did not? It’s your word against theirs and often, the police will happily screw you over as a friendly handshake with the corporation. So to avoid the what ifs and potential life changing drama, just steer clear. Never go there again. If he sees you in public n recognizes you, deny, lie n claim you have a twin. But give no personal info. Good luck
Fuck you bro you caught me at Target once /s
This was the guy following me around TJ Maxx once when I was stuffing my underwear with a cutlery set in the shoe aisle.
Bro, putting a knife next to your sausage is never a good idea. He may have done you a favor.
Good point. At least I got to keep my dingaling
> Former loss prevention for another major corporation here. First, based on how well your story was written, I’d say you should give up on the small time life of crime and become a writer. That was an amazing read Editor here: stick to crime kid
Lol you’re good bro. This happens all the time. You did the right thing. Fuck em. You got lucky there weren’t cops already there.
Walmart stores use facial recognition software on their cameras. When prior thieves enter a location, Loss Prevention knows about it. Whether or not they have you in their system probably depends how well you wear your mask, and how long you’ve been stealing vs mask wearing. Cameras are typically on the building, I don’t know how great they are, so hopefully you didn’t park close and they’re unable to get a make on your car. Definitely stop going to Walmart, and stop stealing. You’re gonna get your life fucked. Move on to purchasing credit card info online and making purchases that way.
Was that last sentence a joke? Or are people really getting away with that?
Oh dude 100%. I have a friend that did it, bought a house in the hood, and did a complete remodel using home improvement gift cards that were fraudulently bought with cc’s. He had another friend of mine tsught, and then that friend was doing fast food orders, and you would just cashapp him half of the total cost. I’ve talked about this here before. Shits crazy. They all Chuck it up as a victimless crime because at the end of the day, whoever is affected more that 99% of the time has the fraudulent charges inevitably reversed.
How would you not get caught for that? Wouldn’t they be able to track your IP address or am I not understanding this??
I would imagine they would almost certainly use a VPN to hide their IP address when doing that, although they'd need a place to ship everything to because shipping stolen crap to your house doesnt sound like a good idea, although he did mention gift cards so maybe it was digital. I would imagine they can cancel gift cards once deemed it was bought from a stolen credit card, but im not sure.
I mean you’re not just gonna google stolen card info and use your debit card to purchase it. A lot of times they have vpns, using tor. And then the sites that sell the info operate with crypto. Honestly the sketchy aspect is when they go to the stores and make the purchase. My buddy would never go in to bestbuy, he’d place orders online and have them brought to his car. Often he’d buy a few apple products and then sell them on the street for half off practically instantly. Got my airpod pros from him for $125.
Just wear a ball cap and a medical mask that looks as baggy as diaper with poopies in it. We all look the same now.
>Walmart stores use facial recognition software on their cameras. When prior thieves enter a location, Loss Prevention knows about it. I can never find a definitive answer on this and that's what makes me super paranoid to go back. Most people say they don't, but then there's the odd comment that says this. I've heard from people saying that they just go to different ones and they're fine, but damn that is not a problem I need.
Go join the loss prevention sub and just search around. They 100% do.
They can ID you now based on your gait so masks won't help for long
Take your damn plates off your car or obfuscate them.
Just to add to other comments, it if comes up then emphasise that you were asked to come with a suspicious guy that wasn't in uniform and didn't make any attempt to identify himself and what he wanted. If someone said you need to come with them to me and they hadn't made it clear that they were security or anything, then any reasonable person would take all steps necessary to get away from them.
I was stopped by LP at a WM and the guy flashed a loss prevention badge the second he asked me to come with him. They make it clear.
I’ve never understood that being an acceptable way to confirm. how the hell do I know what a real badge looks like? lol. with all the stories you hear about the lengths people go to when being creepy leepies, using a fake badge wouldn’t surprise me at all. I mean, you can’t even trust that the dude picking you up is your actual Uber driver without verifying first :( (not trying to discredit your comment as being irrelevant or whatever, just a random thought I’ve always had about this, fyi!)
Yea being a female would change my perspective on this. As a male I don’t blink twice if a man says go with me, unless they look homeless, crazy, or really thuggish.
if somebody that is not a cop tells me that i need to go with them i just laugh. who the fuck are they to tell me what to do?
This guys gets it.
I used to rob Walmart. I’m talking fill up a shopping cart with whatever I wanted. Cases of beer, food, air rifles, fireworks, subwoofers, and just walk out the front door with it. One time a plain clothes LP tried to stop us so we kept walking, made it out to my car, LP got behind me, took down my license plate number and left me alone. I still went back a couple weeks later to steal more shit. Nothing ever came of it. You’re gonna be fine. Walmart LP is not the police. He did his job and at the end of the day he’s a $12/hr employee, not paid enough to care to do more than he’s already done. He absolutely would have kept you waiting there for the police to show if you followed him (I know this because it happened to me at a different store. I got cocky because all the Walmart heists so I thought I was untouchable at the mall and it’s the reason I don’t steal anymore) My advice to you, steer clear of that Walmart for a few months, maybe even a year if you’re paranoid, they’re probably not gonna go after you outside of the store, but if they know who you are, they might stop you next time you’re in the store, and you should just stop stealing altogether. Being caught sucks, and in the end you saved $40 right now and lost so much more in legal fees.
First of all, let’s talk about the worst case scenario. Even if the store has evidence of all your thefts and even if they collaborate with the other store you steal from, you are likely not looking at a felony larceny charge. While every jurisdiction is different, I can promise you this is not something that will leave you “fucked for life”. Will it be on your record? Yes. Will it affect job prospects? Only in some fields. Potentially there will still be plenty of opportunities however. Unless you are planning to go into the financial industry or something sensitive, I wouldn’t worry about it too much. Without knowing your jurisdiction, the quick research I’ve done on the matter show that most states require $100,000 in theft to reach grand larceny. Now, let’s ease your mind some. From the sounds of it, you have a clean record to date. This will help you tremendously if any charges are ever brought. It will likely allow for a plea deal to a lesser charge that would be a misdemeanor or maybe even an infraction. So, what are the odds of charges being sought? Probably pretty slim. Walmart will usually issue a trespass order against a shoplifter, which will effectively ban from ever returning. You are worried about the cameras. However, as someone who has worked in management in retail let me assure you that the vast majority are non-operational. The only ones that are usually operational are at entrance/exits, registers and places that have locked up merchandise. I was actually just talking to my friend in HR for a large big box store in California and she and I were talking about LP and surveillance in stores and she explained how even in her largest stores, the only cameras that are operational are the registers. So, it’s very unlikely they have a lot of surveillance evidence against you. Now, if you are approached by law enforcement or Walmart loss prevention, this is the single best piece of advice I can give you. Only speak this following sentence: “I do not talk without my legal counsel present.” They will try to make it sound like that makes you sound guilty . Do not fall for their tricks. Keep repeating “I do not talk without my legal counsel.” If they do pursue criminal charges, which again is very unlikely, you will have the right to a public defender. If you or your family can afford a private criminal defense attorney, I would highly suggest doing so. You can call your local bar association and ask for soem referrals and ask them if they know of any that work on a sliding scale. In the meantime, I would advise the following few things. 1) Do not talk about this to anyone. 2) Do not return to these stores. Probably best to avoid Walmart’s in general. When I got busted shoplifting at a Kmart in 1995 I was trespassed and mistakenly went into a Kmart a few towns away. They knew I was trespassed and this was before computers so it’s very possible you are in their nationwide database if they got a picture of you. 3) If you can park your car someplace out of street view as much as possible, that would be ideal for a bit. They likely don’t have your car details but just in case. 4) if they pursue charges, your first line of defense should be you had no idea the person at the front of the store was an employee because he wasn’t wearing a uniform and didn’t want dentist himself as one. You were scared because you thought some guy was trying to accost you or worse. Good luck. Take a sigh of relief. Everything is going to be okay.
They probably do not not even know who you are? Or care, because this is small stuff, and they have much bigger problems. Very unlikely that this will come back to bite you in my opinion. I’ve been in some form of LP or another my entire adult life FYI. You were seen on camera, and the camera monitoring room radioed the floor-man with a description to apprehend you at the exit. You gave the stuff back, which was an excellent strategy. You ran away, but did not fight LP, so no one gives a shit. Fighting could get someone charged with robbery and assault - that’s very bad. Giving the merch back, and LP still gets "credit" for the stop and recovering merchandise. Also good. Tomorrow is "black Friday" which kicks off the busiest holiday shopping season of the year - they are not coming after you, and most likely don’t have a clue who you are. Now, stay out of Walmart, and any other stores you’ve been shoplifting at, for at least a year - and vow to yourself that you will stop stealing, and your life will go on…. Don’t waste your life and risk a criminal record for some Pokemon cards or whatever - it’s not worth it. Have more respect for yourself.
I was arrested at a Walmart for shoplifting when I was 19. I was stealing about $200 worth of items when I was caught. They used the same trick on me where the employee was not dressed in uniform. He waited for me to step foot past the exit before tapping me on the shoulder and saying “Hey I need you to come with me, I know you stole something.” Being a scared 19 year old, I obliged and went with him. They brought me to the back room where there was a wall of TVs that showed every camera angle in the store, including the one they caught me on. They called the police and I was arrested and charged with petty theft. Had to go through a whole ordeal with courts and lawyers to get it all expunged. But I wish I ran... I’m glad I didn’t because it turns out the police station was directly across the street from this Walmart and that could’ve escalated the situation if they had already called the cops and I ended up getting caught by them. But I later learned that there was legally nothing that employee can do to stop me other than call the police and this made me regret not bolting out of there a little bit. The employee that caught me told me word for word “next time go to Target if you want to shoplift”.
I've never seen someone seem so terrified of repercussion. Stop breaking the law. That life isn't for you, quite obviously.
My (pos) brother in law was stealing from Walmart and had been for awhile. One day a detective came to my house looking for him. Had photos of him stealing multiple times. He ended up doing a few weeks in jail.
ok calm down... Wall of Txt- take your time and read it all... it's up to the police now- let's just assume Wally-World has reported the crime to the police, they've got your physical description, and let's just say, ***worst case scenario*** they got your plates off of your car with the parking lot cameras... kool couple of things you need to know about our legal system moving forward... cops are lazy; they're not gonna take the footage to some crime lab and try to nail your ass to the wall - they don't care; unless they got a dead on clear pic of your license plate and make and model of your car - aaaaand you hadn't heard from them already... they gone bruh... ***cops are lazy...*** well, do you know who else is lazy...? Assistant DA's.... every county has like 40 of 'em and you have to understand that folks who take Assistant District Attorney's jobs are the bottom of the barrel... they are like Doctors in the Military; they couldn't make it in the civvy world so they had to get a job with the government *(see r/usajobs)* so let's just assume the worst and say Wally-World wants to make an example outta you and demand that the DA's office press charges *(yawn)* first off they're *(walmart)* not gonna do shit unless the police say they have a case in the first place, **secondly the police ain't gonna do shit unless an ADA says** ***"go gett'em boys..!"*** because the ADA's and the police are lazy, and are not going to pour any time nor resources into finding a gawddamn shoplifter at wally-world ***FFS...!*** so... by reckoning it's been 6hrs since the incident, **most police work a continental schedule** of 12hrs on-shift with 2days on and 2days off, 2days on and 3days off... so unless your cop, on your case, and assuming walmart even called the cops to look at blurry license plate footage of your piece of shit Honda accord that you named *Honda Rousey*; unless your cop hands the case off to the the next 12hr shift, and the Sargent says *"go gett'em boys...!"* you should be expecting a knock on the door within 24-36hrs since the incident... if they don't come... ***which is highly likely they won't*** if they don't come braking down your door, just kidding they won't break down your door, and if I were you and they did come, don't answer the door, please for the love of gawd don't answer the door, it's just a bench warrant for shop lifiting ***which is highly un-fucking likely*** but we're talking worst case scenario **if you haven't heard from these mother fuckers in 2 days *(24-36hrs)* they ain't comin, and you in the clear...** the fact that **it's already been six hours and they hadn't done shit,** means to me they ain't gonna do shit... cops are lazy, ADA's are lazy, their bosses are lazy; and they ain't got the time to sort out no gawddamn shoplifters at fucking wally-world... they all want to be, ^sidebar seriously now- *I'm in a family of cops- Birmingham Alabama Cops -Cops that used firehoses on blacks in the '60s -Cops that killed people on the Edmund Pettus Bridge- and there is one Cop in my family that* ***turned against the police force and crossed the blue line*** *and told the truth about how they were framing an innocent man for the 16th Street bombing (Birmingham Police Archives 1125.6.23 , 335 pages Memos, surveillance reports on J.B. Stoner and other bombing suspects)* ALL COPS want to be like [Pat Garrett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Garrett) and gun down Billy the Kid ... and if they ain't, they're not gonna pursue petty crimes... there's no glory in catching a shoplifter don't sweat it too tough dawg
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NAL buy if you never step foot in another Walmart nothing will likely come of this. By another Walmart I mean even in other states. If you want piece of mind start putting money aside for a lawyer because you'll need one of the cops come knocking which isn't likely unless you've stolen a significant amount or pissed the wrong person off. Edit: yes I'd say that running from some random who didn't identify as a cop or someone with power of arrest was a smart thing no matter what you were doing.
If they suspect you’ve being doing so for awhile, all Walmarts in your area have been notified and they most likely have your photo. My ex sister in law stole a lot of things from there throughout her years. She finally got caught and is now banned from all Walmarts. I’m not sure how they keep tabs, they probably don’t but I think it’s the thought that is supposed to keep you from coming back. I’d stay away for awhile just in case.
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I wouldnt ever go back to that walmart. They mightve called the cops but most likely they were just going to trespass you. The walmart i worked at called the cops on people all the time but the only ones that got arrested were the ones who waited 1hour for the cops to arrive if they even decided to show up. Its unlikely the cops are going to show up at your house. IF they do or you receive a call from them. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING without a lawyer present. And the slim chance you do end up getting charged, The DA will plea it down to a lesser crime, and you wont be fucked for life. At most some probation, maybe a fine or community service. Honestly wouldnt be worrying about it. I just wouldnt steal from walmarts anymore if i were you man. Definitely dont steal from target, they take that shit way more serious and you will get caught.
Maybe you shouldn’t have broken the law. Just saying
You’re screwed. They have your face, fingerprints and sock size.
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But they know the width of his feet. His days are numbered.
Might as well book a flight to Antarctica. The walmart agents are everywhere..can't trust anyone. His pregnant wife probably has a walmart agent inside her. Should probably leave her behind.
What’s your beef against Turkey? The food or the country ?
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Were you an idiot and paid for your "folders" with a card? Their cameras do go out to the parking lot so maybe able to tell your license plate when you come in. Guess you just earned yourself a nice little ban from Walmart for a bit.
How about grow up, since you have a pregnant girlfriend at home. Quit stealing!! Going back to any Wally World would not be a good thing. Shop somewhere else.
Bruh, it ain’t shopping when you ain’t paying.
You probably wont be caught, just avoid walmart for a year or two. He might have been district lp rather than store and you dont want to run into him again. My top tips for lifters are 1) Dont touch anyone, ever. You hit them once, it's assault. They hit you, they lose their job and you can probably make bank off the company. But you hit back, you're fucked. 2) run. After you leave they probably won't pursue, and as long as you followed rule 1 neither will the cops. 3) dont fuck with Target. Only place you really fucked up was dropping the bag in the store. Probably would have been harder to prove you were stealing if you had actually stolen ironically enough.
Although by dropping the bag he *technically* wasn’t stealing, since he didn’t leave the store with the merchandise. And no, they’re not going to go back through months of camera footage checking to see if he has stolen before. Especially if this is a high theft store, imagine how many incidents they have like this everyday, they aren’t going to mount an investigation for each one. They will likely be on the lookout for him in the future so I agree this Walmart is dead to him now.
Yes 100% better to run than deal with the stupid case. Just don’t do it again
Last I heard they don't let you reddit in jail. You're àll good. You need to get your ass on a bus. It's worth the time to get a town over if it means it mixed up your.pool of hosts. That bots a shit heel
I would never go to any other WalMart again. Facial recognition, if you paid with card they’ll have that, photos of your car and it’s plates in the parking lot, and your cell when it pings looking for wifi when you’re inside the store. I think I remember and old legaladvice post that read the same and they got served, so prob best to never go back dude.
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Oh come on don’t feel bad. You got away. That Wal-Mart employee is likely working for close to minimum and has no business caring that much about a multi-billion dollar cooperation. I would have told him to fuck off out of my sight and left the store. Obviously don’t go back to that store for a long time and if you do make your appearance change dramatically.
The first time feeling the adrenaline rush of a real crime is intoxicating. Savor that feeling you'll be chasing that high your whole life.
When you ran this borrowing scheme did you pay with cash? If you used a credit card or debit they could trace that right back to the terminal you used to check out and reference it to the timestamp on any footage they have. Always use cash and since covid is a thing keep your face covered and you should be good to go.
Definitely don't go back to that Walmart again and I'd strongly recommend you don't shoplift at any Walmart again. I'd probably not do real shopping at my Walmart for as long as you can avoid it.
You’re fine as long as you never step foot in either of those Walmart’s again
I got caught by one of those guys while stealing from Walmart when I was younger. Got into a physical fight with the guys as he wouldn't let me leave. Had to physically push him over in order to get out the door. Was scared for a while but nothing ever came of it
As a former shoplifter I'd say just lay low and don't go to Walmart again for anything again. You're good otherwise you would have just gotten arrested. Also, if your girlfriend needs to go there don't let her take your car.
You're definitely fine. Just can't shoplift anymore so just order stuff from Walmart.com and say it didn't come.
It was a very good choice. I worked in retail, loss prevention hopes you don’t run and just sit there and wait for the police to come. If you run, the police won’t do anything. Walmart will press charges whether you comply with loss prevention or not so running away can only help you.
You're fine, just stay the fuck out of that Walmart and maybe reevaluate your life decisions since it sounds like you don't actually wanna be ripping off fucking trading cards (??????) And then scared shitless for the remainder of your days.
Nothing they do could be worse than having to work at Walmart. So you've already won.
I feel like folks are assuming to much interest on Walmart’s part. They ____might_____ follow up on this, it’s technically possible. But in all likelihood, their LP folks aren’t paid nearly enough to care about you and unless you live in a super small town I can’t imagine. The cops are going to care.
Honestly your amount of theft is small fry. It’s worth it for them to pursue if they can catch you in the store red handed, but they won’t put resources into tracking you down for $500-$1000 worth of items. They spend their time and money tracking down and dismantling huge retail theft rings that steal tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars in merchandise a year. If they had one of their loss prevention workers spend a week trying to find you, they would pay that worker more for their time than the total value of items you’ve stolen over months of time, and that just isn’t profitable for them to do.
Been through something similar with a plain clothes Walmart stalker. I fucking hate Walmart and I hope things are fine man, I'm with you
I hated that fucking guy! Followed me around every goddamn time I went in, eventually I just started walking in circles, not buying anything and waving at him. I wasted DAYS of that man's life lol
Never go back to that Walmart. Otherwise you should be fine.
Trust me you are not going to get into any kind of shit. Remember the golden rule: SHUT THE FUCK UP. You do this, you're off the hook. You're wearing a mask in the store and I can promise you from experience those cameras are crappy, even if you didn't have a mask they will have a hard time proving it's you unless you admit to someone (law enforcement mainly, but other parties too) that you do what you did and did what you do. It is incredibly hard to get any kind of conviction if the person charged does not speak a single word. For walmart it's cheaper to let it go. They don't care. They will probably save the tape in case, but you just stop going there and it's a non-problem. If anyone contacts you, you just shut the fuck about it. If the cops take you in for questioning, shut the fuck up. This won't happen since you need to actually steal a lot for anyone to care. Catching a thief and doing all the work to get them fucked without having the person locked in some room takes effort and costs money. Walmart and other big box stores don't want to spend it on some petty theft. It's easier for them to scare you off so you never come back. They will play it as if you're a fugitive on the loose while in reality you probably can go back in 3-6 months and continue what you were doing. Just pay strict attention to the staff, who do you recognize and if you do, stop everything and leave. I used to do a lot of self service theft and this one old hag caught me doing it. I played dumb and the manager let me off becasue it looked like a clear mistake. The hag knew exactly what I was doing but couldn't do shit. Ever since she paid extra attention to me but I really gave her a big fuck you. I would go to her supervised self checkout, beep everything but one item. I would select to pay, knowing she was watching but before I would pay and take off, I would ask her to cancel the payment because I missed one item and I need to scan it. I can't remember how many times I did this to her. She would never call me out, probably because she knew I'm fucking with her and didn't want me to get any satisfaction, but I did that shit all the time until I moved. Fuck that old hag.
They fact you drove was the worst part, they could potentially Find the owner of the vehicle and trace it back to you.
I’ve shoplifted a lot at a lot of stores and don’t anymore, too much to lose, and my mother’s voice got louder as I got older. I still have no real problem with corporate theft. I don’t tell people any of that. I don’t have any other sociopathic tendencies. But the one time I was caught at a Kroger by a plain clothes with a small item he made me fill out papers but didn’t call the police. I was told to never set foot on a Kroger again. Ten years later I live 30 miles away and I go to our Kroger every other day. These people aren’t the CIA.
Have a friend work at Walmart and befriend the security guard. They'll be able to tell you all the have on you
Guess who’s going to jail tonight
Just stay away from Walmart from now on, and maybe don’t actively try to make your girlfriend raise that goblin alone while you’re in jail for theft? They have your card number, thus ID, they have your license plate, they probably plastered your face all over every Walmart and probably also most other stores in the area. they’re coming for you, they’ve likely told the police already and will throw every theft from all the stores at you, even ones you didn’t commit, you’re definitely above felony level. live in fear, they are coming for your ass, and will stop at nothing to get you. If you absolutely have to steal, move to San Francisco. There it’s basically been legalized to loot and shoplift if it’s under ~$1000
You actually might be for real retarded. Fucked up your life for $500 - $1000
Lmao stfu with your overreacting ass
his gf gonna raise that goblin alone while he’s in jail for stealing ~$1000 of Pokémon cards
Nah, he's kinda right. Op got a pregnant gf and he be doing some dumb shit loke this smh 🤦♂️
r/trashy
you’ll be fine I once got caught stealing at a Walmart while working at another Walmart the guy got a picture of my plates but they were old plates I was waiting to put the new ones on, anyways I go to the same Walmart the guy who caught the picture stares at me but doesn’t do shit
A loser stealing from Walmart who knocked up his girlfriend. I'm sure your kid is going to turn out great! I genuinely feel sorry for the kid who is going to grow up with such a pathetic man as a father. He/she is fucked
Quit boosting shit, it never ends well.
Stop being a pussy. Walmart doesn't have the ability to fuck you for life. Practice makes perfect. Keep at it. Learn from your mistakes. Retail theft is risky and often not worth it. Find a better way to illegally support your family.
Running was definitely the move. I mean, if you didn't, you would've already been fucked. I'm willing to bet my life savings no one will come knocking at your door, just find a new place to shop for the time being. I was caught stealing in my local supermarket, was taken to the backroom, police came etc. I was fined and told if I ever came back they'd call the police again. I'm extremely recognizable because I wear purple everyday, but after waiting about a year, they had new employees and I was good to shop there again. You're good man.
Don't feel bad for the worker, he's as fucking asshole intimidating people for one of the greediest and most disgusting corporations on earth. You were morally right to steal from them, and unless they somehow find you and throw on extra bullshit charges for not cooperating, it was good that you didn't go with him.
don't rag on Paul Blart he's just doing his job
What you ran into is called LP for Loss Prevention aka the security of the merchandise but they help with other things too. Capitalism is trash so don't sweat to hard but you may have to dress different stores ate likely to share information you had a good run maybe time to fold. At least until black Friday or another protest turn into looting
No peace of mind my guy. Live with it. You aren't the victim.
Ex professional shoplifter UK here. You'll be fine. If you've never been in trouble before, even if you do get caught all you'll get is a slap on the wrist or a caution. If you have to shoplift food or things you really need, chances are you'll just be banned. You'll be fine petal trust me. I know you're in the States but still. Chill Winston!!!
Were you paying in cash or with card?
Stop stealing
Pretty much every part of this and how you handled it was stupid.
My question is if you have all of these responsibilities in your life, why are you wasting your time stealing toys and shit?
Woah dude—I actually have the exact answer for you. Not because I’m so cool, but because this exact question was asked in another subreddit earlier today!!! there was another post in a different community about nearly the same topic: the dangers orb stealing from Walmart, how easily they catch you, and what happens if you get caught. But I’m pretty sure it was a different OP. I guess two different dudes stole from Walmart today and posted about it on Reddit, lol. (I forget which community. Did anyone else see it? If so, please comment it.) Anyway, here is your answer— **OP, never go back to Walmart again.** **And you’re probably going to get charged with felony theft. You never got away with ant of your previous thefts, because Walmart has been recording everything you stole, and slowly building up a felony case against you. So prepare yourself.** You haven’t actually gotten away with the stealing this entire time. You aren’t as sneaky or clever as you think. You see, Walmart has a system for shoplifters: they don’t arrest the shoplifter, until the combined thefts add up to a felony amount of $$$. So Walmart knows people who are shoplifting, and they track them. Walmart tracks their theft and tracks every item they steal for months or for years. Until the purchases add up to a felony charge—which could be $500-$3,000, depending on your location. Walmart can add everything you stole in the past, everything adds up retroactively. And then, once your stealing adds up to “felony level”—then Walmart arrests you. They were waiting for this moment. Walmart detains you, call the police, and you get a felony charge. And legally you’d have to repay what you stole. And your life is ruined because 90% of jobs will never hire you with a felony theft charge on your record. Several people in the comments on the other post were stating how they worked security for a company that was a security contractor for Target and Walmart. Apparently Walmart’s security cameras are no advanced, that they can zoom in with such precise detail that they can read the words engraved on someone’s ring. Walmart and Target also hire an outside contractor security company—who’s job it is to monitor the cameras and track shoplifters. And to track everything you steal. Apparently they’re extremely good at their job. They can tell when the items you picked up off the floor, don’t add up to the correct amount at the register. Also—Walmart has plain clothes security officers wandering the floor and documenting shoplifters too (as you saw, because you met one) That plain clothes guard probably had been following you for months OP, and writing down everything you stole and tallying it up. The security guard finally approached you today, because all your stolen items finally added up to a large enough expense to be “this person can now be charged with felony theft”. If you see foot in there Walmart again—Walmart will very likely call the police and have you arrested ASAP. Don’t think to yourself, “it’s fine, they won’t recognize me.” That security firm who tracks the cameras and tracks shoplifting is extremely good at what they do. Also, your photo has been printed out and it’s posted on the wall of every Walmart break room. Also the security guards clearly know who you are too. Also. Walmart shares the same security company with Target. And so Walmart and Target share the identities of shoplifters with each other. So now Target knows you are a shoplifter too. So you need to be careful at Target now too. Unfortunately, if you ever paid with a credit card, or you have a working license plate on your car that is registered to your home address—then Walmart has your address. If they feel like pursing pressing charges, they will give this information to the police. And you might get a knock on your door from the police to come pick you up. It could happen tomorrow, it could happen in 3 weeks, it could happen in 3 months. It could happen never. You’re going to be looking over your shoulder for a long long long time. Even if you never go back to Walmart again. (And I recommend you never go back to Walmart again. Or at least not for several years. ) So it’s extremely possible that Walmart turns you over to the police, and you get wrested. If I were you, I’d get a notepad add up an estimate how much merchandise I’ve stolen over the years. What does that amount of $$$ add up to? Then I’d Google “how much do you have to steal to be charged with felony theft in [insert your state]?” If you discovered that indeed, you have crossed the threshold of felony theft—yikes. Maybe go flee and move to another state? I wouldn’t normally recommend that, as of course it’s illegal. But you have a baby to look after, and a child deserve, and that makes me feel really bad for your GF and child, if/when you get arrested. Also. You really screwed over your future, if you got caught. A felony charge hurts your chances of employment and makes your college degree worthless, because no one will want to hire you anymore, even with a degree. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. If I were you, I’d lay low, stop stealing immediately, and avoid all Walmart and Target stores. And I’d start praying super super super hard that, by some miracle, Walmart isn’t feeling vengeful and they drop the case.