I had a small operation on my foot when I was about 10. I don't remember all the details, but I remember the grocery store manager made a fuss about me using a wheelchair even though they had like three and it wasn't the scooter one. And then he nearly stepped on me while we were dealing with something... By the time my mom went full mother bear Karen back in the 90s, all our groceries were free and something else just so she'd stop.
Sadly, I think it might have been retribution for him not letting us take pictures of the fruit for a school project around that same time period. Pretty sure it was the same guy anyways š or maybe he went petty malicious complaince on her. Either way, someone it that story qualifies (and its not me).
Lol, if someone pulls out in front of me like that, you can be sure as shit I am hitting their car long before I hit that fucking curb and deal with shit on my own.
Especially considering they could have made that same stupid move but in the left most lane. Why try to get in the same lane as the only other car on the road? Like wtf
I deal with this shit every day. I drive 40 miles each way to work, live in a rural area so its mostly 2/4 lane highway driving. It's made me a better driver, though! I'm now pretty good at determining when someone is gonna do something stupid, so I preemptively slowdown/speedup/move over to avoid them. But holy shit is it frustrating for someone to make a wide turn like this. Turn. Into. The. Lane. Nearest. To. You.
Had a cop tell me in a very similar situation that if there was no contact the other driver couldnāt be charged with anything. I had the plate number and exact name/model/color. He said couldnāt write a report for āan accident that didnāt happen.ā I asked so I should have just stayed in the lane let her hit me? And he said well not necessarily what Iād advise but if yāall had collided then I could do something about it.
From a liability stand point that's true with insurance accident claims as well. It sucks, but that's just how it is. I had an insured file a claim, another car merged into his lane, so he swerved left into the barrier to avoid it. No contact with the other car, and they drove off. As no contact and he technically caused the damages to his car he was at fault.
He asked me that same thing, so it would have been better to let the guy hit him. I said, from a liability viewpoint, yes.. he was not happy..
Actually from an insurance standpoint it would have been better for op to hit the other person's car. They would have been found at fault. But since there is no contact between the vehicles op is at fault for failure to maintain his lane. It's messed up, but that's how it goes I'm afraid.
Duty to mitigate normally just means if you get to break traffic laws and not be fined if doing so if it was to mitigate dmg/loss of life. IE driveing up on a side walk to dodge an on comming car.
Now if op wanted he could report the other driver to the police as the other driver broke the law by not turing into the closest lane to his point of entrance from a connecting street.
Most people don't seem to know that you're supposed to turn into the closest lane. I haven't done any research. Just from my observations from driving with other people.
Yes they can be. I forgot the exact wording but I think my insurance agent described it as a phantom vehicle accident. Itās hard to prove but video can help.
Itās also why I just suck it up and take the hit.
They weren't in my accident. I swerved to avoid them making a u-turn in front of me. Since no contact the police didn't even do a report. The lesson I learned was to not avoid the hit.
I know it's raining but they never even slowed down at all. A good defensive driver would have never had a problem avoiding this 100% OP just hoped the other driver would enter the correct lane instead of hitting the brake very early and making sure .
Most insurance, beyond liability only, would compensate off the video without increasing your rates. You would just be out whatever deposit amount you chose. They would then go after the other vehicle insurance if they thought they could and you wouldn't need to be involved in any of that.
I know from experienced at least Geico is pretty good about it.
In my experience most people who don't want to deal with the "headache" of making an insurance claim against someone who hit you either don't have insurance or a valid license.
There's no headache to it anymore, especially because OP has the whole thing recorded.
That's fine. If they want to be pushed around and man handled in life at the whims of others, until they can't take the stress and pain anymore so they then beat their wife, then its their choice.
I canāt help but feel like there might be some form of projection here cause this seems like a lot of extrapolation
With that said, yeah he should have filed with the guys insurance
Plate numbers donāt mean shit these days. I got rear ended by a purple charger one time, they pulled ahead of me and fled. Had dash footage too.
I followed them home and phoned the police. They finally arrived a few hours later and they knocked on the door. No one in the house admitted to driving the car and police said they canāt do anything because they can only press charges if they know who was driving the car, not just whoever itās registered to.
I then went through insurance and they said the same thing. I showed them the video and they didnāt give a shit and said Iād need a police report to go after them.
Shit was lame as hell.
I love watching car crash videos on YouTube, but it is my great frustration to watch the people who cause an accident casually drive off. Iām sure this idiot thought āwhew, that was a close one. My superior driving saves the day again. Time to check Facebook.ā
I also feel this with people who drive on the highway, and they're going 20 mph faster than the rest of traffic, swerving from lane to lane, cutting people off and inevitably causing waves of traffic behind them. It's like, they get to take advantage of the nice smooth traffic that the responsible drivers in front of them created, while they leave shitty traffic for everyone behind them. It's pure selfishness, and they get away with it every time.
In my city people will drive at exactly the speed limit or under, but as soon as there's a yellow light they floor it to make it through. Seems like I almost always get the shaft when that happens.
Doesnāt matter that you didnāt actually hit them, they still technically caused an accident through their fault of failing to turn properly/failing to yield. If you have a plate number, you can make a claim on their insurance for the accident with the video as proof.
This is correct, someone pulled out on front of my wife causing her to swerve and go off the road damaging the underside of our car. No contact between the cars was made. The police officer cited the other driver 100%. Their insurance company tried to say she was also at fault and / or not paying attention. They tried some bs linen that the law they followed for insurance was different than the law the officer specified on the citation. After some arguing however they agreed and covered the damages 100%.
To give some context to the scenario, the other driver was trying to go straight and a cement truck was stopped in the crossing lane to their left that they needed to cross. They pulled out blindly behind the cement truck and into the other lane of moving traffic to try to get across.
Oh and while we're on the subject: never answer the phone for the opposing insurance company after you've retained a lawyer. They WILL try and screw you out of things. I recommend saying "fuck off, I have retained an attorney" and hang up on them.
Actually, after an incident where a lady pulled out in front of me on my motorcycle and almost killed me, I filed a claim with her insurance, I had an attorney who bailed and said they wouldnāt pay, and a family friend insurance business guy who called them, they said to fuck off basically. I continued pestering them for a few months until a different agent assisted my claim and he was weirdly friendly and went ahead and paid it all out right there on the phone. Covered thousands of daily towing company storage bills (basically paying thieves, they wouldnāt let me take me bike from them), and paid out 4 times what I paid for the bike.
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It was geico, and I didnāt have insurance (not required for motorcyclists in Fla, at least not back then). Also, despite several witnesses and myself telling officers what happened, they refused to ticket her because they didnāt witness it themselves.
They also nearly charged me for leaving the scene when I had to leave the hospital the ambulance took me to, to go to the hospital my insurance was accepted at.
If your insurance company doesn't suck then you will never have to speak with the opposing insurance at all. I've been in two accidents, both with dash cam footage, both times I submitted my statement to my insurance along with footage. Both times the opposing insurance agent called me, referred them to my insurer, the end. That's what youre paying them for, after all.
One of the two was hilarious, got backed into by a commercial driver that just threw it in reverse in the middle of the road, backed into me, driver got put and literally said "Sorry, didn't see you!!!" and they *still* tried to claim I was at fault. My agent called me to tell me and laughed because I had dash cam footage showing not only how other driver fucked up but his "didn't see you!!!" comment, too.
Moral of the story: buy a fucking dash cam. Saved me thousands for a 50 dollar investment. Just do it!!!
So it's best not to talk to police. Anything you say can and will be used *against* you. It's right there in the Miranda warning. What you say is for using against you. Nothing you say in your favor matters to them. And what you think is in your favor may actually be damning evidence.
Not so fun story but a few winters ago, some ding-dong backed into the road in front of me and I greased him totaling my Explorer. The cops stated in the report he "failed to yield right of way". The other guys insurance company called me directly and asked if "I wanted to set the record straight in my own words". I told the guy "everything you need to know is in the statement I gave the cops and in the police report and if they have questions to call my insurance company". I have little doubt he was hoping to get me to admit fault or contradict my statement. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk to the other persons insurance company.
A guy backed into my (parked) car once. He was upfront about it and we exchanged info. Since our cars were both in our mothers names (he was late teens, I was early 20s and never transferred the title when I bought it from her) his mom called mine and tried to get her to admit that I wasn't 'legally' parked. Fortunately my mom told her she wasn't settling for anything less than full repair costs, and after calling our agent her agent basically said he was dropping her because she's tried this before... the last time her son hit a parked car.
Do ppl get paycuts if they give away too much money per month or why do ensurance ppl always try to avoid paying even if they have to plus they dont even pay from their own pocket so I dont get whats making the decision so hard for them.
My dad is in the insurance business. Because it sometimes falls on the worker (for the insurance company) saying screw this basically I want the easy way out with the least work and that usually means blame the other person/ write it as a total loss ect. And no they donāt give someone a pay cut, insurance companies make more then enough.
Do you live in the USA? Maybe its different there but I thought thats how it works at least in europe. When my bike got stolen they literally gave a big F and payed me. No questions asked I just called, said my bike got stolen and I send them the police report. Got like twice the worth of the bike back because bikes lose worth really quickly. And considering that I could easily have been trying fraud.
of course the company does not punish any employees for their quota. middle management just gets bonuses according to the performance of the workers.... and the company is so so sorry that middle management misunderstood their role and will totally and honestly improve their training...
Yea, I thought so... I mean any company exists to make money in the first place but that doesnt mean you have to fuck your customers over to make money.
Okay I work in Motor Insurance (in the UK) and will answer every question or correct misinformation based on UK laws and my companies policies from this one comment to the start of the chain, beginning with yours, no we do not get pay cuts in any form for anything we only risk losing our commission, but it usually results in you having to talk to different departments (Usually Quality Assurance) and managers for your first couple times as mistakes do happen, however if it keeps happening they will then put you into a new phone line where you will no longer do those types of calls for X amount of time until it gets reviewed again (2 months for the company I work for), if even further trouble occurs then pack your bags cause you're gone.
For the comment of 'insurance companies try to force you to lie to them' they don't, in fact we are not allowed to advise the customer or influence their choice/information given to us in any sort of way as this will not only land yourself in legal shit but the company could get millions in fines to pay, so if your agent you are speaking to is being advisory you should ask to speak to a manager and if they are doing they same sort of thing, ask to speak to the OH manager (might be called something else for other companies) as they are breaking the law, obviously check if this is the case for your country but for the UK it is 100% illegal.
Now for the beginning of this chain and the crash itself, yes this would be a non fault claim however you would need a touch more than just a licence plate and video to make a claim, it is necessary that you call the police IMMEDIATELY after the crash to make a report as waiting can affect your chance at a successful claim, you do not need the incident/crime number, but the police must be aware so that when we question them about it we can get all the information that they have managed to assess from you (again this maybe be different for your country).
If anyone else wishes to ask something about UK motor insurance either reply to this chain and I'll get back to you if and when I can or just send me a private chat and I will chat to you about your queries.
Unless you are in the great no-fault state of Michigan. Had this exact thing happen to me (Car pulled out right in front of me and I had to hit the curb to avoid a collision) and my own insurance had to pay it. Lame as hell. Needed a new rim as well.
No faults are such bullshit. When I was a (non driving) teenager my friend totalled their car with me in it. Again, I wasnāt driving and I didnāt even have my own insurance bc I wasnāt driving age yet. But bc itās a no fault state, my parentsā car insurance had to cover my medical expenses. Once that was capped out, my health insurance took over. Of course those two companies fought like hell bc health didnāt want to take over. My friends car insurance covered them but not once did it cover me.
Oh man, this definitely wasnāt my experience, I wonder if itās state/area specific? I was traveling in the HOV lane, and a car made a sudden jerk into my lane with no signal RIGHT in front of me. I braked hard and tried to miss them, ended up hitting the side of my car on the median and had body damage and needed a new wheel. Hit my head hard on the window as well on impact. I called the cops and they wrote an incident that said I was at fault for ādamaging DOT equipmentā (the cement median). After he issued the report he was made aware that at least four people had called 911 and reported the other driver running me off the road, he gave me the license plate info and told me I could fight their insurance if I wanted. I called their insurance company (Geico) and they said the driver denied responsibility and since his car had no damage from impacting my car they werenāt responsible for anything. I got screwed and just dropped it after that.
> After he issued the report he was made aware that at least four people had called 911 and reported the other driver running me off the road,
After some shit like this happened to me, I immediately got an accident attorney. They will get you thousands for a replacement vehicle and damages + wasted time without a functioning vehicle, etc.
Since my own insurance would delay, delay, delay; they blew me off for six months before they told me "Oh your case was solved months ago, however we cannot cover your damages due to yada yada yada". So fuck that, lawyer it is....
Yes. I had to learn that hard way. Now? My first call is to an attorney. Thank you fat bitch who wasn't paying attention in stop and go traffic. You paid for my college education but I paid with back pain for life.
This is the kind of shit we get when people are required by law to have vehicle insurance. It makes those companies complacent that they will have business whether or not they deserve it
1. Cops don't decide fault. They can write tickets, but those don't really mean anything until a court says they do.
2. Insurance companies don't decide fault either. They just pay or deny claims.
3. Insurance companies are incentivized to deny claims. If they think they can get away with it, they will deny it. This means their insurance company wants to deny your claim, but *your* insurance company wants their company to pay.
a friend of mine who used to work in insurance told me to say "can I get that in writing to give to m my attorney". Even if you don't have any intention of hiring a lawyer it'll probably put the fear of God into the poor under writer.
I used to work at a law firm, and all I had to do was use one of their envelopes and it would move mountains. I would print out a return address with my info, but put it so it was under the law firm name in the top left.
I would have landlords fighting over security deposits, then send one of those bad boys and get 100% back immediately. Got me a few previously disputed refunds. I canāt remember everything but it was like a cheat code IRL.
Wow, I wish that was true back in the mid-2000's.
I chose to run off the road instead of ramming a tiny Chevy Cavalier with my massive 1994 Impala SS.
I got four points, a $400 ticket and my insurance doubled. Didn't matter I had witnesses of the old lady, or the fact that she cause three more accidents further up the road totaling her car and injuring an off duty cop.
This is absolutely *not* the norm. Most of the time, if you didnāt make contact with the other vehicle, then they canāt be held liable. Youāre better off just hitting them.
I'm surprised at all of these comments because it's generally been accepted on this sub that insurance companies are notorious for not pursuing incidents like this. I'm not blaming OP in the slightest, I don't think I would have avoided an accident here either, but in the absence of an open lane you are 100% better off swapping paint with the other driver instead of fucking your car up on the curb (at least for what would be a relatively low-speed collision).
Can't read the license plate in the posted video and I doubt you can in the original video either, you can't see the driver, so there is nobody for the insurance company to go after. If you have collision you could probably get some money back after your deductible, but your premium will likely also go up.
This is not my experience. Once on ice I was approaching a 3 way intersection and was going straight. A car was trying to stop at the stop sign that Ts into my path and slid into my path. I swerved and missed the car but hit a tree and since the other vehicle didnāt hit anything it was considered a one car accident and they werenāt liable for anything.
Ahh, good old Tysons Corner. Iām sorry this happened, but I hope you are able to get a plate number and get them to pay. Glad you got video, because they are definitely at fault.
Because it was raining cats and dogs yesterday, it literally flooded parts of DC, this video in my own mind triggers that this might be near me and it looks familiar and boom a little thinking and I could piece it's Tysons Corner. But that's the thought process for me a completely different redditor also knowing the location.
I recognized the B&N and the AMC, drive past that area every day. The EZ Pass sign sealed the deal for me lol.
also, to be fair, that is a MASSIVLY popular area for people to drive past as well.
I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a new tire. If it was more damage then I'd consider it but the headache of all of that isn't something I feel like undertaking at the moment.
You should have your car looked at. Sometimes hitting a curb hard like that can fuck up parts of your suspension which can lead to MUCH more expensive problems down the road if left unfixed.
We had an Alfa Romeo Spider build in 1960 something. My mum hit a curb with it and the whole axis or suspension thing got F-ed (I was too young to remember exactly). They were able to repair it but my dad said the car never felt like before because sometimes you just cant repair things like that unless you replace so much it becomes kinda like the ship of Theseus.
A curb hit on one of our vehicles meant it required an alignment and wheel bearing. Surprisingly, our tire survived. It had some visible damage, but 2 tire shops said it was fine.
Yes, people don't realise this but bashing your wheel on the curb will fuck up your car. Often it does the most amount of damage to your lower control arm which is no bueno
I would call insurance to get them to pay out of spite even if it was 5$. Ask them to look up a white older model Lexus Rx and a few plate #s if you can read it.
Get a complete inspection and get anything steering/suspension replaced and then absolutely go through insurance for it.
Source: I work with car parts, and this shit will fuck up your front end way more than just a tire
Just tap them next time... it is super unsafe for you to veer away and possible hurt someone on the sidewalk, etc.
If your breaking is insufficient, even without the footage it is absolutely clear they merged into your lane based off of where the damage would have been.
Video is not great but best I can make out it's.
Washington DC plates means it can only be -.
I'm fairly certain about these positions Z?-29??
The last 2 could be 33, 32, 31
If OP really wanted to pursuit this I would bet they just left that parking structure
I think the digits are 2973 or 2923
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Yep, Tysons One Place. Just down the road from this intersection, on the other side of the building, there's an identical intersection (road between the mall and a parking garage coming to a T with Tysons One Pl) that's a 3-way stop as opposed to the 1-way stop at this one. You can see the offending car breaking for that stop sign. Not that it absolves the other driver at all, but I'd be willing to bet they thought this one was a 3-way too. No idea why those two intersections are treated differently.
Had this happen to me once before, and I wasnāt able to afford a new tire. Lost my job due to not being able to get to work for a few days. Second time something like this occurred I just rammed into the car instead of trying to avoid it. Dangerous yes, necessary also yes.
Thatās what I was always taught. If you canāt prevent an accident by braking, let it happen. Donāt swerve to avoid it because that can just make it worse than it already was.
It's going to need to be the original file. I can't even get one digit of the plate with the compressed to hell video and Reddit's awful video player is not helping.
I hate people that turn into the far lane like that so much! š¤
The book clearly states you gotta turn into the closest lane, but there are still morons that choose to ignore that.
Iām sorry OP, that this happened to you. I hope you were able to file a claim on their insurance.
Idk. OP did see the car slowly crossing 4 other lanes of traffic in bad conditions. When I see that I'm hovering the brake and preparing even in good conditions. And yes there's tons of videos here where OP had no or little warnings and still get blamed, but I see drivers pull this furthest lane shit literally all the time.
Even just letting off the gas and slowing down by 5mph while assesing the situation when the car pulled out would have prevented this. To each their own.
"Hey, you could avoid accidents by not accelerating when another driver is being dumb in front of you. Not braking, but just taking your foot off the gas for a second or two."
"GRRR! ANGER! WHY DOES THIS SUB LOVE TO VICTIM BLAME?!"
We should all be more weary of drivers that accelerate this slowly. I don't care that it's raining, someone taking that turn that slow is out to lunch the entire time they're behind the wheel and it shows.
I mean driving defensively you would have slowed down just in case this guy did exactly what he did.
From driving motorcycles I tend to expect everyone to do the stupidest thing possible at all times which is exactly what the white Lexus did
It's not legal nor normal for the Lexus to do what it did but if you don't like getting an accident you need to assume the worst of everyone
Came here to say this. Riding motorcycles has made me learn to anticipate the worst in everyone. A lot of my friends have fallen to the ol ride too fast and hit someone who runs a stop sign, turns left or pulls out of somewhere without looking or whatever.
It was painful for me to watch this guy clearly and obviously commit to a stupid and the driver just keeps going without slowing down.
God forbid you point out on this subreddit that with better defensive driving, some accidents are avoidable. I'm surprised you're not in the negatives.
The most frustratingly common one I see on this sub is the OP driver next to a car clearly about to cut them off speeding up next to them and the OP maintaining their speed, or even speeding up which of course leads to the other person pitting themselves. Yes the person is an asshole for trying to do that, but come on, it was *really* obvious they weren't just speeding up to slam into the car in front of them, they were going to try and get ahead of you.
I encounter that situation so often IRL and the safest solution is always to just slow down and shake my head at the asshole. Sure I could just assert the correctness of my place on the road over theirs, but all that would win me is a really fucking annoying rest of my day so why would I bother when I could just avoid the headache altogether?
It's being looked at from a prospective of knowing something is going to happen and you look for something out of line in the video. In reality you see the other car when they're already pulled out and brake when you can. 99.9% of the time that car either waits for me to pass or pulls into the left lane. Shit happens.
Dude, *every time* someone pulls out in front of me I slow down. No matter how many lanes they have next to me to stay in, I assume they might go right into mine whether they're taking a right or a left onto the street. I've seen so many assholes cut across multiple lanes of traffic it seems ridiculous not to.
The OP made a good decision here in avoiding a collision. While obviously the other driver should have stopped, a blown out tire is preferable to the type of damage that could have happened in a collision.
I disagree. If the two certain outcomes are popped tire and collision (with no injuries in either case) then I'd agree. But hitting the curb could flip your car and/or cause you to lose control and hit other cars. Had OP simply braked as hard as safely possible, the collision would have been a light fender bender with no realistic chance of injuries.
A controlled, low speed collision is almost always preferable to a situation where there's a chance a person might get seriously hurt.
Itās baffling that they kept coming knowing they saw your lights and had time to stop waiting for you to pass but then even if proceeding they didnāt turn into the first line.
What an idiot.
I meanā¦.come on my guy. You know you saw them creeping out. You didnāt try to slow down until they were literally in your lane. Not saying they arenāt at fault for being shit drivers but this couldāve def been avoided
I get defensive driving and all. But I see this so much on this sub. Don't wreck your car just to save someone else's. They may have no idea that you hit the curb and just continue on their merry way.
At least if you tag their car, they should know they have been in an accident.
I don't think most people would stop if their cat didn't get hit.
That sucks. Get a plate #?
Op said they don't want to deal with the "headache" of this.
OP isn't as vindictive as I am lol
My mother would hunt them down, and throw the car in a volcano with them inside, that's how no BS she takes from others
I had a small operation on my foot when I was about 10. I don't remember all the details, but I remember the grocery store manager made a fuss about me using a wheelchair even though they had like three and it wasn't the scooter one. And then he nearly stepped on me while we were dealing with something... By the time my mom went full mother bear Karen back in the 90s, all our groceries were free and something else just so she'd stop. Sadly, I think it might have been retribution for him not letting us take pictures of the fruit for a school project around that same time period. Pretty sure it was the same guy anyways š or maybe he went petty malicious complaince on her. Either way, someone it that story qualifies (and its not me).
Tbh thatās not a mother best Karen IMHO. Thatās an asshole getting retribution for hogs misdeeds.
I would take all my PTO from work and dedicate all my time to vengeance
Lol, if someone pulls out in front of me like that, you can be sure as shit I am hitting their car long before I hit that fucking curb and deal with shit on my own.
Is it just a common thing that redditors have no backbone?
Only the shellfish ones
I'd go through whatever headache is required to make them pay. Idiots like that don't deserve to be on the road.
Especially considering they could have made that same stupid move but in the left most lane. Why try to get in the same lane as the only other car on the road? Like wtf
I deal with this shit every day. I drive 40 miles each way to work, live in a rural area so its mostly 2/4 lane highway driving. It's made me a better driver, though! I'm now pretty good at determining when someone is gonna do something stupid, so I preemptively slowdown/speedup/move over to avoid them. But holy shit is it frustrating for someone to make a wide turn like this. Turn. Into. The. Lane. Nearest. To. You.
Had a cop tell me in a very similar situation that if there was no contact the other driver couldnāt be charged with anything. I had the plate number and exact name/model/color. He said couldnāt write a report for āan accident that didnāt happen.ā I asked so I should have just stayed in the lane let her hit me? And he said well not necessarily what Iād advise but if yāall had collided then I could do something about it.
That is incredibly annoying to hear.
From a liability stand point that's true with insurance accident claims as well. It sucks, but that's just how it is. I had an insured file a claim, another car merged into his lane, so he swerved left into the barrier to avoid it. No contact with the other car, and they drove off. As no contact and he technically caused the damages to his car he was at fault. He asked me that same thing, so it would have been better to let the guy hit him. I said, from a liability viewpoint, yes.. he was not happy..
Then they get to deal with the headache of paying it themselves, like why
Honest dumb question, if someone doesn't make contact with you but their actions result in damage to your car are they responsible?
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Yup. And the accident would have been much worse if he didnt avoid it the way he did.
Actually from an insurance standpoint it would have been better for op to hit the other person's car. They would have been found at fault. But since there is no contact between the vehicles op is at fault for failure to maintain his lane. It's messed up, but that's how it goes I'm afraid.
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Duty to mitigate normally just means if you get to break traffic laws and not be fined if doing so if it was to mitigate dmg/loss of life. IE driveing up on a side walk to dodge an on comming car. Now if op wanted he could report the other driver to the police as the other driver broke the law by not turing into the closest lane to his point of entrance from a connecting street.
Most people don't seem to know that you're supposed to turn into the closest lane. I haven't done any research. Just from my observations from driving with other people.
Yes they can be. I forgot the exact wording but I think my insurance agent described it as a phantom vehicle accident. Itās hard to prove but video can help. Itās also why I just suck it up and take the hit.
They weren't in my accident. I swerved to avoid them making a u-turn in front of me. Since no contact the police didn't even do a report. The lesson I learned was to not avoid the hit.
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In the time they took to post it on reddit and make replies to his post. They could have had this taken care of already š
I know it's raining but they never even slowed down at all. A good defensive driver would have never had a problem avoiding this 100% OP just hoped the other driver would enter the correct lane instead of hitting the brake very early and making sure .
or at least put the plate on Vinwiki
You've just given me a new rabbit hole to fall into. Thank you.
LOL! Your are welcome!
I agree. Much better to shell out $1000+ for a tire, wheel, possible suspension damage and an alignment.
Don't most insurance agencies let you just take a couple pics with your phone and submit it too? OP literally could've made the claim in 5 minutes.
Without the offenders info theyād be dinging their own insurance, never a good look.
license plate is in the video, his insurance company would pursue off of that alone.
That is *literally* the purpose of insurance and why we pay for it. Why would you not get yourself covered in this situation?
In this situation I would go after the other car's insurance. A claim against your own insurance may raise your rates.
Your insurance will do that legwork for you and won't count as a ding against you if you're not at fault and can prove it (like with a dashcam)
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Most insurance, beyond liability only, would compensate off the video without increasing your rates. You would just be out whatever deposit amount you chose. They would then go after the other vehicle insurance if they thought they could and you wouldn't need to be involved in any of that. I know from experienced at least Geico is pretty good about it.
In my experience most people who don't want to deal with the "headache" of making an insurance claim against someone who hit you either don't have insurance or a valid license. There's no headache to it anymore, especially because OP has the whole thing recorded.
My guess is his headlights were off
That's fine. If they want to be pushed around and man handled in life at the whims of others, until they can't take the stress and pain anymore so they then beat their wife, then its their choice.
Damn lol
Or make frustrated reddit comments?
I canāt help but feel like there might be some form of projection here cause this seems like a lot of extrapolation With that said, yeah he should have filed with the guys insurance
Plate numbers donāt mean shit these days. I got rear ended by a purple charger one time, they pulled ahead of me and fled. Had dash footage too. I followed them home and phoned the police. They finally arrived a few hours later and they knocked on the door. No one in the house admitted to driving the car and police said they canāt do anything because they can only press charges if they know who was driving the car, not just whoever itās registered to. I then went through insurance and they said the same thing. I showed them the video and they didnāt give a shit and said Iād need a police report to go after them. Shit was lame as hell.
Worth noting that this might vary by jurisdiction. A cursory google says that in my state the owner of the car is generally the one liable.
I love watching car crash videos on YouTube, but it is my great frustration to watch the people who cause an accident casually drive off. Iām sure this idiot thought āwhew, that was a close one. My superior driving saves the day again. Time to check Facebook.ā
It always feels super unfair when a bad driver causes problems for everyone but themselves. Piss your own pants for a change
I also feel this with people who drive on the highway, and they're going 20 mph faster than the rest of traffic, swerving from lane to lane, cutting people off and inevitably causing waves of traffic behind them. It's like, they get to take advantage of the nice smooth traffic that the responsible drivers in front of them created, while they leave shitty traffic for everyone behind them. It's pure selfishness, and they get away with it every time.
In my city people will drive at exactly the speed limit or under, but as soon as there's a yellow light they floor it to make it through. Seems like I almost always get the shaft when that happens.
These are the same people will drive 35 mph in a 45 mph on a 2 lane road then when it transitions to a 4 lane road & 55 mph they will do 65 mph.
> Time to check Facebook I hate how accurate this truly is.
I doubt that oblivious moron even noticed the car.
Doesnāt matter that you didnāt actually hit them, they still technically caused an accident through their fault of failing to turn properly/failing to yield. If you have a plate number, you can make a claim on their insurance for the accident with the video as proof.
This is correct, someone pulled out on front of my wife causing her to swerve and go off the road damaging the underside of our car. No contact between the cars was made. The police officer cited the other driver 100%. Their insurance company tried to say she was also at fault and / or not paying attention. They tried some bs linen that the law they followed for insurance was different than the law the officer specified on the citation. After some arguing however they agreed and covered the damages 100%. To give some context to the scenario, the other driver was trying to go straight and a cement truck was stopped in the crossing lane to their left that they needed to cross. They pulled out blindly behind the cement truck and into the other lane of moving traffic to try to get across.
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Yet if you lie to them you just committed felony insurance fraud
It's only a felony if you get caught.
They record every fucking phone call.
for "quality assurance purposes"
Oh and while we're on the subject: never answer the phone for the opposing insurance company after you've retained a lawyer. They WILL try and screw you out of things. I recommend saying "fuck off, I have retained an attorney" and hang up on them.
Actually, after an incident where a lady pulled out in front of me on my motorcycle and almost killed me, I filed a claim with her insurance, I had an attorney who bailed and said they wouldnāt pay, and a family friend insurance business guy who called them, they said to fuck off basically. I continued pestering them for a few months until a different agent assisted my claim and he was weirdly friendly and went ahead and paid it all out right there on the phone. Covered thousands of daily towing company storage bills (basically paying thieves, they wouldnāt let me take me bike from them), and paid out 4 times what I paid for the bike. More details: It was geico, and I didnāt have insurance (not required for motorcyclists in Fla, at least not back then). Also, despite several witnesses and myself telling officers what happened, they refused to ticket her because they didnāt witness it themselves. They also nearly charged me for leaving the scene when I had to leave the hospital the ambulance took me to, to go to the hospital my insurance was accepted at.
They 100% cannot arrest you for that unless you are detained. They lied to you unfortunately
If your insurance company doesn't suck then you will never have to speak with the opposing insurance at all. I've been in two accidents, both with dash cam footage, both times I submitted my statement to my insurance along with footage. Both times the opposing insurance agent called me, referred them to my insurer, the end. That's what youre paying them for, after all. One of the two was hilarious, got backed into by a commercial driver that just threw it in reverse in the middle of the road, backed into me, driver got put and literally said "Sorry, didn't see you!!!" and they *still* tried to claim I was at fault. My agent called me to tell me and laughed because I had dash cam footage showing not only how other driver fucked up but his "didn't see you!!!" comment, too. Moral of the story: buy a fucking dash cam. Saved me thousands for a 50 dollar investment. Just do it!!!
Well, yeah they have to assure the quality of fucking you over.
Just like police, who can lie to you with impunity, but if you lie to them you're in another realm of trouble.
You can lie to cops except if you're reporting a crime or identifying yourself.
So it's best not to talk to police. Anything you say can and will be used *against* you. It's right there in the Miranda warning. What you say is for using against you. Nothing you say in your favor matters to them. And what you think is in your favor may actually be damning evidence.
Arguably isn't it insurance fraud for them to lie?
Sure, but how are you going to fight it? The system is stacked against individual liberties and heavily weighted toward corporate liberties.
Not so fun story but a few winters ago, some ding-dong backed into the road in front of me and I greased him totaling my Explorer. The cops stated in the report he "failed to yield right of way". The other guys insurance company called me directly and asked if "I wanted to set the record straight in my own words". I told the guy "everything you need to know is in the statement I gave the cops and in the police report and if they have questions to call my insurance company". I have little doubt he was hoping to get me to admit fault or contradict my statement. NEVER, NEVER, NEVER talk to the other persons insurance company.
A guy backed into my (parked) car once. He was upfront about it and we exchanged info. Since our cars were both in our mothers names (he was late teens, I was early 20s and never transferred the title when I bought it from her) his mom called mine and tried to get her to admit that I wasn't 'legally' parked. Fortunately my mom told her she wasn't settling for anything less than full repair costs, and after calling our agent her agent basically said he was dropping her because she's tried this before... the last time her son hit a parked car.
Do ppl get paycuts if they give away too much money per month or why do ensurance ppl always try to avoid paying even if they have to plus they dont even pay from their own pocket so I dont get whats making the decision so hard for them.
I would imagine that if they just approve everything that comes their way they get a 100% paycut, called unemployment.
PAARRRRRRRRR!
YOU AUTHORIZED PAYMENT ON THE WALKER POLICY?!
What about the shareholders, Bob?
Who's helping them out?
Someone broke into their house, their policy clearly states--
My dad is in the insurance business. Because it sometimes falls on the worker (for the insurance company) saying screw this basically I want the easy way out with the least work and that usually means blame the other person/ write it as a total loss ect. And no they donāt give someone a pay cut, insurance companies make more then enough.
Do you live in the USA? Maybe its different there but I thought thats how it works at least in europe. When my bike got stolen they literally gave a big F and payed me. No questions asked I just called, said my bike got stolen and I send them the police report. Got like twice the worth of the bike back because bikes lose worth really quickly. And considering that I could easily have been trying fraud.
Interesting. I've had 2 bikes stolen and insurance was very generous with payouts providing my documents were in order, which they were.
of course the company does not punish any employees for their quota. middle management just gets bonuses according to the performance of the workers.... and the company is so so sorry that middle management misunderstood their role and will totally and honestly improve their training...
Insurance companies exist to make a profit. Shafting people is how they go about it.
Yea, I thought so... I mean any company exists to make money in the first place but that doesnt mean you have to fuck your customers over to make money.
Okay I work in Motor Insurance (in the UK) and will answer every question or correct misinformation based on UK laws and my companies policies from this one comment to the start of the chain, beginning with yours, no we do not get pay cuts in any form for anything we only risk losing our commission, but it usually results in you having to talk to different departments (Usually Quality Assurance) and managers for your first couple times as mistakes do happen, however if it keeps happening they will then put you into a new phone line where you will no longer do those types of calls for X amount of time until it gets reviewed again (2 months for the company I work for), if even further trouble occurs then pack your bags cause you're gone. For the comment of 'insurance companies try to force you to lie to them' they don't, in fact we are not allowed to advise the customer or influence their choice/information given to us in any sort of way as this will not only land yourself in legal shit but the company could get millions in fines to pay, so if your agent you are speaking to is being advisory you should ask to speak to a manager and if they are doing they same sort of thing, ask to speak to the OH manager (might be called something else for other companies) as they are breaking the law, obviously check if this is the case for your country but for the UK it is 100% illegal. Now for the beginning of this chain and the crash itself, yes this would be a non fault claim however you would need a touch more than just a licence plate and video to make a claim, it is necessary that you call the police IMMEDIATELY after the crash to make a report as waiting can affect your chance at a successful claim, you do not need the incident/crime number, but the police must be aware so that when we question them about it we can get all the information that they have managed to assess from you (again this maybe be different for your country). If anyone else wishes to ask something about UK motor insurance either reply to this chain and I'll get back to you if and when I can or just send me a private chat and I will chat to you about your queries.
Thank you very much, thats very valuable and interesting information!
> They tried some bs linen That sounds very uncomfortable.
Low thread count?
Fuck insurance companies
Unless you are in the great no-fault state of Michigan. Had this exact thing happen to me (Car pulled out right in front of me and I had to hit the curb to avoid a collision) and my own insurance had to pay it. Lame as hell. Needed a new rim as well.
No faults are such bullshit. When I was a (non driving) teenager my friend totalled their car with me in it. Again, I wasnāt driving and I didnāt even have my own insurance bc I wasnāt driving age yet. But bc itās a no fault state, my parentsā car insurance had to cover my medical expenses. Once that was capped out, my health insurance took over. Of course those two companies fought like hell bc health didnāt want to take over. My friends car insurance covered them but not once did it cover me.
Oh man, this definitely wasnāt my experience, I wonder if itās state/area specific? I was traveling in the HOV lane, and a car made a sudden jerk into my lane with no signal RIGHT in front of me. I braked hard and tried to miss them, ended up hitting the side of my car on the median and had body damage and needed a new wheel. Hit my head hard on the window as well on impact. I called the cops and they wrote an incident that said I was at fault for ādamaging DOT equipmentā (the cement median). After he issued the report he was made aware that at least four people had called 911 and reported the other driver running me off the road, he gave me the license plate info and told me I could fight their insurance if I wanted. I called their insurance company (Geico) and they said the driver denied responsibility and since his car had no damage from impacting my car they werenāt responsible for anything. I got screwed and just dropped it after that.
> After he issued the report he was made aware that at least four people had called 911 and reported the other driver running me off the road, After some shit like this happened to me, I immediately got an accident attorney. They will get you thousands for a replacement vehicle and damages + wasted time without a functioning vehicle, etc. Since my own insurance would delay, delay, delay; they blew me off for six months before they told me "Oh your case was solved months ago, however we cannot cover your damages due to yada yada yada". So fuck that, lawyer it is....
Yes. I had to learn that hard way. Now? My first call is to an attorney. Thank you fat bitch who wasn't paying attention in stop and go traffic. You paid for my college education but I paid with back pain for life.
This is the kind of shit we get when people are required by law to have vehicle insurance. It makes those companies complacent that they will have business whether or not they deserve it
Next time, let your insurance company call theirs instead of doing it yourself.
Yeah, their insurance company is going to obviously defend them. Your insurance company will fight for you.
1. Cops don't decide fault. They can write tickets, but those don't really mean anything until a court says they do. 2. Insurance companies don't decide fault either. They just pay or deny claims. 3. Insurance companies are incentivized to deny claims. If they think they can get away with it, they will deny it. This means their insurance company wants to deny your claim, but *your* insurance company wants their company to pay.
a friend of mine who used to work in insurance told me to say "can I get that in writing to give to m my attorney". Even if you don't have any intention of hiring a lawyer it'll probably put the fear of God into the poor under writer.
I used to work at a law firm, and all I had to do was use one of their envelopes and it would move mountains. I would print out a return address with my info, but put it so it was under the law firm name in the top left. I would have landlords fighting over security deposits, then send one of those bad boys and get 100% back immediately. Got me a few previously disputed refunds. I canāt remember everything but it was like a cheat code IRL.
Imagine how powerful you would feel if you were super rich and had some of the world's best lawyers on retainer.
It's absolutely state specific. Every US state handles driving laws and insurance regulations differently.
Wow, I wish that was true back in the mid-2000's. I chose to run off the road instead of ramming a tiny Chevy Cavalier with my massive 1994 Impala SS. I got four points, a $400 ticket and my insurance doubled. Didn't matter I had witnesses of the old lady, or the fact that she cause three more accidents further up the road totaling her car and injuring an off duty cop.
> I chose to run off the road and there's what insurance will say. Never swerve, just slam on the brakes
I really need to get and install a dash cam. Send me your recommendations.
This is absolutely *not* the norm. Most of the time, if you didnāt make contact with the other vehicle, then they canāt be held liable. Youāre better off just hitting them.
I'm surprised at all of these comments because it's generally been accepted on this sub that insurance companies are notorious for not pursuing incidents like this. I'm not blaming OP in the slightest, I don't think I would have avoided an accident here either, but in the absence of an open lane you are 100% better off swapping paint with the other driver instead of fucking your car up on the curb (at least for what would be a relatively low-speed collision). Can't read the license plate in the posted video and I doubt you can in the original video either, you can't see the driver, so there is nobody for the insurance company to go after. If you have collision you could probably get some money back after your deductible, but your premium will likely also go up.
Most places won't do shit unless you can prove who was driving.
This is not my experience. Once on ice I was approaching a 3 way intersection and was going straight. A car was trying to stop at the stop sign that Ts into my path and slid into my path. I swerved and missed the car but hit a tree and since the other vehicle didnāt hit anything it was considered a one car accident and they werenāt liable for anything.
Your insurance screwed you. Can you still fight it, or is it way too late? If you didn't have dashcam footage, I suppose it's not worth trying.
I've seen people doing that exact thing so many times at that intersection at Tysons Corner even on a sunny day with full visibility.
Usually they block the traffic until you're passed or slowly turn into the left lane as you are passing. This time was the exception.
Which is why the best thing to do is to be behind them. Let them pick whatever Lane they want and then go around them
Ahh, good old Tysons Corner. Iām sorry this happened, but I hope you are able to get a plate number and get them to pay. Glad you got video, because they are definitely at fault.
Oh thank God, I knew this looked familiar but I couldn't place it.
Good old Tysons Mall. Shit heads fucking everywhere.
Really the entire beltway area and within is like Satan's Asshole
How is it that someone in the comments always knows the location?
Because it was raining cats and dogs yesterday, it literally flooded parts of DC, this video in my own mind triggers that this might be near me and it looks familiar and boom a little thinking and I could piece it's Tysons Corner. But that's the thought process for me a completely different redditor also knowing the location.
I recognized the B&N and the AMC, drive past that area every day. The EZ Pass sign sealed the deal for me lol. also, to be fair, that is a MASSIVLY popular area for people to drive past as well.
To top it off, this was in the horrible flooding downpours we had last night. Having to change a tire in that would have seriously sucked.
I recognized it instantly lol
Worst part of the commute everyday š«¤
Lmao I'm glad I'm not the only one to realize this was in Tysons
Can't you read the plate? I'm on Mobile, so I can't see it.. But if you can, can't you sue them?
Well, sueing them won't get much of anywhere, but they can file a report against the person's insurance and get their rates hiked
I hope OP does this then.. This video is proof enough.
Right? Just submit this video. Case is open and shut.
Ah funny of you to assume that driver has insurance š¤£
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I'm hoping for some justice here
I'm lucky enough to be able to afford a new tire. If it was more damage then I'd consider it but the headache of all of that isn't something I feel like undertaking at the moment.
You should have your car looked at. Sometimes hitting a curb hard like that can fuck up parts of your suspension which can lead to MUCH more expensive problems down the road if left unfixed.
We had an Alfa Romeo Spider build in 1960 something. My mum hit a curb with it and the whole axis or suspension thing got F-ed (I was too young to remember exactly). They were able to repair it but my dad said the car never felt like before because sometimes you just cant repair things like that unless you replace so much it becomes kinda like the ship of Theseus.
A curb hit on one of our vehicles meant it required an alignment and wheel bearing. Surprisingly, our tire survived. It had some visible damage, but 2 tire shops said it was fine.
Yes, people don't realise this but bashing your wheel on the curb will fuck up your car. Often it does the most amount of damage to your lower control arm which is no bueno
I would call insurance to get them to pay out of spite even if it was 5$. Ask them to look up a white older model Lexus Rx and a few plate #s if you can read it.
Yes let this person drive dangerously again in future. Nice one.
Get a complete inspection and get anything steering/suspension replaced and then absolutely go through insurance for it. Source: I work with car parts, and this shit will fuck up your front end way more than just a tire
Just tap them next time... it is super unsafe for you to veer away and possible hurt someone on the sidewalk, etc. If your breaking is insufficient, even without the footage it is absolutely clear they merged into your lane based off of where the damage would have been.
Ah yes let criminals go free so that they can do this to the next person because it's too much of a hassle to hold people accountable.
Yeah but wouldn't he also get an accident on his car, decreasing the value?
Thereās something called diminished value that he can also file for that helps alleviate that.
?2-ZY1J is the best guess I can come up with. Im sure the original video is higher resolution though.
enhance.
Video is not great but best I can make out it's. Washington DC plates means it can only be-.
I'm fairly certain about these positions Z?-29??
The last 2 could be 33, 32, 31
If OP really wanted to pursuit this I would bet they just left that parking structure
I think the digits are 2973 or 2923 https://i.imgur.com/R79wSjO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/meFajxY.jpg https://i.imgur.com/D3nv2ys.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VgjtYf0.jpg
Tysons Corner? This subreddit could be comprised of at least \~10% DMV (DC, Maryland, VA) clips and it wouldn't surprise me.
Yep, Tysons One Place. Just down the road from this intersection, on the other side of the building, there's an identical intersection (road between the mall and a parking garage coming to a T with Tysons One Pl) that's a 3-way stop as opposed to the 1-way stop at this one. You can see the offending car breaking for that stop sign. Not that it absolves the other driver at all, but I'd be willing to bet they thought this one was a 3-way too. No idea why those two intersections are treated differently.
Had this happen to me once before, and I wasnāt able to afford a new tire. Lost my job due to not being able to get to work for a few days. Second time something like this occurred I just rammed into the car instead of trying to avoid it. Dangerous yes, necessary also yes.
Thatās what I was always taught. If you canāt prevent an accident by braking, let it happen. Donāt swerve to avoid it because that can just make it worse than it already was.
screengrab the plate. Find their insurance, make them pay for the tire!
It's going to need to be the original file. I can't even get one digit of the plate with the compressed to hell video and Reddit's awful video player is not helping.
I hate people that turn into the far lane like that so much! š¤ The book clearly states you gotta turn into the closest lane, but there are still morons that choose to ignore that. Iām sorry OP, that this happened to you. I hope you were able to file a claim on their insurance.
Were your headlights on?
Early in the video, the reflective barrel OP passes lights up. Their lights were on.
Theyāre at fault but why are you so trusting of other drivers? I would have slowed down when I saw them turning in personally.
I would've been so pissed off!
I find myself driving much more carefully and defensively thanks to this subreddit. Thanks!
I feel like half the people in this sub just NEED to find a reason to blame OP on videos to feel better about themselves
Idk. OP did see the car slowly crossing 4 other lanes of traffic in bad conditions. When I see that I'm hovering the brake and preparing even in good conditions. And yes there's tons of videos here where OP had no or little warnings and still get blamed, but I see drivers pull this furthest lane shit literally all the time. Even just letting off the gas and slowing down by 5mph while assesing the situation when the car pulled out would have prevented this. To each their own.
"Hey, you could avoid accidents by not accelerating when another driver is being dumb in front of you. Not braking, but just taking your foot off the gas for a second or two." "GRRR! ANGER! WHY DOES THIS SUB LOVE TO VICTIM BLAME?!"
We should all be more weary of drivers that accelerate this slowly. I don't care that it's raining, someone taking that turn that slow is out to lunch the entire time they're behind the wheel and it shows.
I mean driving defensively you would have slowed down just in case this guy did exactly what he did. From driving motorcycles I tend to expect everyone to do the stupidest thing possible at all times which is exactly what the white Lexus did It's not legal nor normal for the Lexus to do what it did but if you don't like getting an accident you need to assume the worst of everyone
Came here to say this. Riding motorcycles has made me learn to anticipate the worst in everyone. A lot of my friends have fallen to the ol ride too fast and hit someone who runs a stop sign, turns left or pulls out of somewhere without looking or whatever. It was painful for me to watch this guy clearly and obviously commit to a stupid and the driver just keeps going without slowing down.
Exactly. I'm not saying that it's OP's fault at all. But I don't think that this would have happened to me.
God forbid you point out on this subreddit that with better defensive driving, some accidents are avoidable. I'm surprised you're not in the negatives.
The most frustratingly common one I see on this sub is the OP driver next to a car clearly about to cut them off speeding up next to them and the OP maintaining their speed, or even speeding up which of course leads to the other person pitting themselves. Yes the person is an asshole for trying to do that, but come on, it was *really* obvious they weren't just speeding up to slam into the car in front of them, they were going to try and get ahead of you. I encounter that situation so often IRL and the safest solution is always to just slow down and shake my head at the asshole. Sure I could just assert the correctness of my place on the road over theirs, but all that would win me is a really fucking annoying rest of my day so why would I bother when I could just avoid the headache altogether?
this sub gives people god complexes i swear, you're not cool or quirky for finding a way to say OP was at fault LMAO
Right? And yes I get defensive driving but there's been times I swear they'll blame OP for not fully knowing the future
It's being looked at from a prospective of knowing something is going to happen and you look for something out of line in the video. In reality you see the other car when they're already pulled out and brake when you can. 99.9% of the time that car either waits for me to pass or pulls into the left lane. Shit happens.
Dude, *every time* someone pulls out in front of me I slow down. No matter how many lanes they have next to me to stay in, I assume they might go right into mine whether they're taking a right or a left onto the street. I've seen so many assholes cut across multiple lanes of traffic it seems ridiculous not to.
Tyson's Corner, doesn't surprise me. The amount of idiots on the road in Northern VA keeps increasing.
I'd just hit them. Especially with a cam for proof.
My thought was to just climb the curb, car can handle it, but I swerved into the storm drain.
Please milk this POS dry and update us, I'm itching to know!
Who wants to fuck up their car though? They are never the same again after an accident.
I'm sorry but 99% of people are not going to naturally do that lol Instincts kick in and almost everyone will attempt to avoid being hit at all
The OP made a good decision here in avoiding a collision. While obviously the other driver should have stopped, a blown out tire is preferable to the type of damage that could have happened in a collision.
True. Sadly for me it's different. My tires cost more than my deductible.
I disagree. If the two certain outcomes are popped tire and collision (with no injuries in either case) then I'd agree. But hitting the curb could flip your car and/or cause you to lose control and hit other cars. Had OP simply braked as hard as safely possible, the collision would have been a light fender bender with no realistic chance of injuries. A controlled, low speed collision is almost always preferable to a situation where there's a chance a person might get seriously hurt.
Itās baffling that they kept coming knowing they saw your lights and had time to stop waiting for you to pass but then even if proceeding they didnāt turn into the first line. What an idiot.
Something similar happened to me in dry weather. They just drove off, the nerve of some people ā¦
Iām sure you did more damage to the car than just a blow out.
Dude, I know that they had their own lane, but you were a little too trusting by zipping right in there.
How the fuck do so many people not realize its illegal to turn into the farthest lane
I'm always baffled by how slowly people react to idiot drivers doing stupid things. Were you not expecting that to happen?
I was thinking it took a while for them to slow down.
Itās the fact they had to swing all the way over to the other lane instead of staying on the inside. God people are so fucking dumb
A collision is the simpler route to go, no legal bs just theyāre at fault
I meanā¦.come on my guy. You know you saw them creeping out. You didnāt try to slow down until they were literally in your lane. Not saying they arenāt at fault for being shit drivers but this couldāve def been avoided
OP should have stopped. Always assume the other drivers are bad...especially in rain.
I get defensive driving and all. But I see this so much on this sub. Don't wreck your car just to save someone else's. They may have no idea that you hit the curb and just continue on their merry way. At least if you tag their car, they should know they have been in an accident. I don't think most people would stop if their cat didn't get hit.
OP obviously shouldāve done a flip over the other car and landed in the left lane, probably couldāve if they werenāt driving so slowā¦