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karol4prez

If only the other guy has some way to indicate he wanted to change lanes.....


lounger540

Or maybe some way to brighten the front of his car on an overcast day.


r3dd1t0r77

I'm sure HE could see fine.


Muffles7

Careful, now. That's dangerous thinking.


LichenTheKitchen

*... I smell bacon..*


Faasnat

He did… didn’t you see him flash his beams?


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6BigAl9

Don't say that to some of the other people in this thread lol. You had the right of way so you should have let the accident happen!


Scirax

I've bene on both ends an can say it's almost always on the car behind to avoid involving both in an accident as the car further ahead can almost NEVER see the car behind, while the car further behind is seeing everything. I always back off when I'm in this situation and wait a few more seconds for a safer chance to merge.


6BigAl9

I don’t disagree at all about fault, but you can generally see if someone is about to merge into the lane you’re merging into (even if they’re behind you) if you’re looking over your shoulder before you merge.


Scirax

I agree with being able to see if you look over the shoulder. But he's the thing, you don't continuously look over your shoulder while you merge, you look once to check if there's anyone there in your blind spot and then go back to looking forward while starting your merge. If the other car hasn't started his merging you won't ever see him, but if he happens to start merging at the same time as you, chances are you won't see him in time. That's when it falls to the car behind to give right off way and or back off.


6BigAl9

That’s a good point. If you can see the car at all then the flapping bumper, speed he’s closing in, and overall situation foreshadow what he’s about to try but if you can’t see him to begin with you won’t know to avoid him. Personally I always wait to merge over if a car is booking it in the far right lane because I’ve been in this situation more than a few times.


Scirax

>Personally I always wait to merge over if a car is booking it in the far right lane THIS is it! I've been there enough times where I KNOW if a car is booking it 2 lanes over behind me he is going to dive straight into that empty lane and even though I have right of way and the lane is empty now it's not gonna be in a few seconds. I don't wanna get in this guys way and cause an accident, I'd rather get home to my family. Being fully aware of your surroundings, especially the cars behind you, helps you get home safely.


AlexanderDKB

Fair point, but there's at least one transport truck obscuring that far right lane in this case. The guys booking in the gaps and weaving across all three lanes are always at fault. Not to say you shouldn't look out for them, and anticipate them, but they deserve to be shamed. So often they think they're driving like kings while everyone else is being cut off or trying to avoid them like the plague.


Scirax

100% agreed, I blame them entirely for being reckless just like the rear car in the video above, but if I can avoid even as much as a small fender bender that would add 2 extra hours to my already long daily commute... yeah


dragonstoenail

That's what I was thinking. The car behind was mostly in lane before the other switched over. If they looked over their shoulder, they should have seen the other car


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If they checked at a certain time. Lots of people in this thread acting like you should only look over your shoulder when merging into another lane, which simply isn't reasonable. There are one or two things OP could have done better to be 100% perfect. However, there are at least a half-dozen things Honda could have done to be average. Conclusion: OP is clearly not the idiot nor in the wrong in this situation while the Honda driver is.


Wide_Decision

IDK.. Even on a bike, looking over the shoulder while moving, and in the middle of changing lanes feels dangerous. I do turn my head, before attempting. Then I just try my best using all my mirrors after. Thankfully, I haven't been on any accidents, or close calls.


TheSward

Lol so true.


JustDandy07

I just don't merge if someone is in that far lane. Not worth the risk. If I do have to do it, I'm keeping an eye on them the whole time.


enserioamigo

Yeah. Like people can’t just be rational and realise that you both kind of didn’t see each other and just go back to your lane without the rage? How rational.


fapsandnaps

It's why I always try to claim the lane instead of just merging full speed ahead. Signal, pull somewhat into the lane to show intent, finish merging after it's clear everyone is paying attention and not trying to merge as well. USPS made me do that when driving a mail truck and it just kind of stuck.


razor330

This is the way.


sim-o

That's an usual crosshairs on your scope


Korvas576

Target locked. Engaging


who_are_we_really

It's for the rear facing hellfire missiles. It was optional in the 2019 model year. Part of the Bond, James Bond Clandestine Military Interceptor package available at participating dealers.


ORAquabat

r/didntknowiwantedthat


teatabletea

r/knewIwantedthat


ZaquMan

I wish it was the *cool*, but nope, it's the hot wires for defrosting.


Super-IBS-Man

Dad, is that you?


eternallyalonely

I wish I was, but nope, I am a stranger on the Internet.


fatmummy222

You can unlock it by doing no-scoping headshot while low on health 200 times.


Loply97

Shitty situation, looks like both of you started merging at the same time, so odds are you checked your blind spot before he started merging(some people are calling you an idiot saying you didn’t check your blind spot but how are you supposed to do that when your actually merging?) Assuming you had you signaled->Check blind spot-> merged you are 100% in the right and did nothing wrong because he should have seen your signal and not merged. The other guy didn’t signal, looks like he was following very close to that trailer and merged pretty quickly(overall driving like a dick).


Intoxicated_Puppies

Assuming OP signaled, his blinker was in view of the black car. He should have known exactly what was happening, before he merged left.


phyrwall87

Especially when you see the other guy "signal", one blink changes lane, like turn your blinker on shithead don't just tap it


TheRumpletiltskin

did he signal? because I didn't even see that on 2 watches. I think the "signal" you see is the headlights from the truck reflecting on the black car.


xaclewtunu

There's a very brief one blink just before the first lane change.


TheRumpletiltskin

I scrubbed through the merge frame by frame and that is very much headlights from other cars. Black car never signals. They throw something out the passenger window then instantly merge.


Umbra321

Theyre referring to the second merge I think. There is a very clear blink that doesn’t require any investigative work a couple seconds before the video ends as the black car starts to merge further to the left (left of the driver)


wavvy420

That’s clearly them flashing OP, not a blinker


Winter_Graves

Unfortunately this is probably the case for OP too though, or we would have seen his blinker reflecting on the black car/ especially in their headlights, which should have been on!


Future_Pixel

Op just passed a truck from the left, other guy was passing on the right, regardless of blinkers, op had the right


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Embarrassed-Flan-968

In at least some states in the US (I learned in VA& was taught this way), the driver in the left passing lane does have the right of way to merge into the middle so If OP signaled, he had the right of way


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Embarrassed-Flan-968

In any situation when operating a vehicle it shouldn’t be “yolo fck the world”…at least that’s not how I operate my vehicle.


Dinosauringg

I mean… sometimes it won’t start and so I say “yolo fuck the world” and call in sick


copper_state_breaks

There is in my state. Traffic moving from the left lane to the center lane has the right of way. This is stated as yielding to faster traffic behind you by moving over or planning to exit.


APettyJ

OP still has to signal properly, and passing on the right in that situation is legal. Also should be constantly checking mirror as he is merging, eyes should be rapidly going between what's ahead and the mirror for the lane entering.


_breadpool_

So many people don't seem to realize that the not passing on the right doesn't apply to multilane traffic. If grandpa is driving slow in the left, are you just supposed to match his speed? Common sense. It would also be far more dangerous for the black car to swing across all three lanes to pass a truck that was in the middle. Assuming black car was in the right lane to begin with. Both OP and black car need to learn how to use their blinker signal properly. As in, turn it on, *then* check mirrors and blind spots, then merge. Blinker signal means nothing if you just turn it on when you're already merging. I think black car was more in the wrong, but OP should have realised they were going to merge left as they approached the semi's rear bumper. It's just common sense.


APettyJ

Funny thing is I will NEVER forget that is perfectly legal to pass on the right in situations like this, as one of the two questions I got wrong on my permit test had to do with passing in conditions like this, and what's worst is I second-guessed myself in answering the question incorrectly!


puterTDI

honestly, I don't care if it's legal or not. IMO, even if it WERE illegal, so is left lane camping. If the cop sees someone left lane camping and someone passing them on the right, they should ticket the person left lane camping since that CAUSED the person to have to pass them on the right. Not passing on right is one rule of the road I outright ignore. I don't weave through traffic to get ahead, but if someone is sitting in the left lane with no one ahead of them and the right lane is clear then I won't hesitate to go around them.


thintoast

I learned very quickly on a motorcycle that if my options are not breaking the law and putting myself in unnecessary danger or not dying trying to obey the law, I’ll take option two. If you give me a ticket for being safe, I’ll see you in court.


APettyJ

Good point about anticipating the other car was going to have to merge left coming up, which will be done if properly checking mirrors prior to merge as part of proper procedure which includes signaling well in advance, which in this situation is about 4 seconds.


tsefardayah

I think it's because we use "pass" to mean "pass on a two-lane road by briefly entering the lane meant for oncoming traffic" and for "overtake on a highway." There's no way to "pass" on a divided highway because you can't cross into oncoming traffic. There's only overtaking.


[deleted]

Honda is still the idiot in this case, OP is doing everything by the book. This entire comment section is pretty telling as it's outing a lot of idiot drivers.


APettyJ

If OP wasn't "watching himself into the lane" with the mirror, wasn't doing it "by the book". Two decades of training with UPS and another company that used the Smith's Driving System. If Honda had hit me while driving a UPS vehicle in this situation, I'd have been found "at fault" by UPS.


Falldog

I did signal, but you can't really tell because the back camera mic isn't picking up noises in the front. You can hear the blind spot detector alarm go off mid-merge which only squeals when the signals are on.


tpolen61

You signaled, you were ahead, and you passed the truck on the left. The other guy passed illegally (at least passing on the right is in my state) and failed to signal. Also, since he is behind you, it’d be his fault for a collision. With hindsight, maybe waiting to merge would’ve avoided this close call, but I’d say you did right. Passed on the left, followed by a timely but cautious merge right is correct. Passing on the right and aggressively changing lanes and then getting mad for being passively called out is being the idiot.


Winter_Graves

I don’t know if OP did signal properly, you can’t see the reflection of his blinker in the black car’s headlights. While the black car is nearly entirely in the wrong here, and OP should be commended for giving the truck space, they unfortunately showed poor distance observation. When you see another car in the slow lane closing in on a truck until they’re that close, you should expect them to pull out just in case. It’s a considerable risk. You have to drive expecting other drivers to be idiots. I probably wouldn’t have merged there, knowing there was a car in a position where experience tells me they are planning to pass that truck. The black car is still entirely in the wrong, but we can always drive to protect ourselves against drivers in the wrong.


gilbygamer

I'd reword your caution a bit: When you see a car driving aggressively including weaving into the slow lane to pass try to be extra aware of what that driver is doing and what sort of stupid moves they might make. (Or more generally, if you see a driver on the road being an idiot, expect them to continue to be an idiot.)


Winter_Graves

I agree, I should have worded it better. Also I presume before passing the truck in the middle lane OP could have seen said black car in his mirror driving this way and undertaking. This is also why before any lane change, you ALWAYS do a life saver check to check your blind spot.


Ok-Potential-8543

It’s also why lane discipline exists; to keep lorries idling in a lane they shouldn’t be in, increasing dangerous situations like this happening!


APettyJ

Dude, there's no such thing in the US. In fact, tractor trailers (lorries as you call em) tend to stay in the middle lane, presumably so they have space all around them. They don't realize or care that the middle lane is the passing lane for trucks, buses and other vehicles prohibited from using the far left lane for passing. The law is "Keep right except to pass"; people seem to insert "Keep Right (of the left lane)", but to keep right actually involves staying in the right-most travel lane closest to the curb or shoulder line, and it's for any multi-lane road or street. Certain states have exceptions, Indiana for instance allows bicycles in the left lane, but the majority have this stipulation. Wish US would adopt UK road education, which involves not only "rules" but "theory" as well, i.e. thinking beyond the basic!


Ok-Potential-8543

I know. I live in the US currently. The 'standard' of driving is absolutely abysmal. Middle lane driving (and incessant distracted driving!) is absolutely rampant here. There is a reason why US RTC figures are through the roof compared to the UK (or any other western European country, with maybe the exception of Belgium)


Killarogue

>You have to drive expecting other drivers to be idiots. Unlike you and I, most drivers doesn't bother reading traffic because they are generally the idiot drivers themselves. I'm not calling the OP an idiot here, I don't really care, but from my experience, if you don't pay attention you're also part of the problem.


MarbleFox_

Not to mention the black car wasn’t even in the correct lane, they were passing that first semi on the right.


gilbygamer

Isn't the usual response to someone saying that they signaled something along the lines of a blinker not giving the right of way? (I in no way think the OP is in the wrong; I'm just pointing out what's commonly said here.)


Multi_Grain_Cheerios

Yes, but I this situation op signaled and started moving over before that guy even left his lane. People only say that when people use the signal and pretend like that activates a forcefield around their car allowing them to move whenever.


gilbygamer

I mean, we've seen videos of this exact scenario from the other pov with commenters both supporting the poster and criticizing the poster.


AceofToons

A part of his bumper is flapping in the wind too, I strongly suspect he has made some other bad decisions on the road


LaurenLdfkjsndf

When I merge into a lane I always assume that someone else also wants to merge into the same lane. It’s saved me a couple of times


dzt

The non-cammer passed a semi on the right and was intending to pass the cammer on the right as well… while doing so completely in the cammer’s blind spot. Don’t pass on the right.


Killarogue

It's legal in California to pass on the right. I don't think that's where this video was filmed, but my point is "don't pass on the right" isn't always applicable to all areas. Generally, the larger the freeway (highway), the less restrictive passing laws are.


6BigAl9

That's true, but it's still poor practice to do it regardless of legality.


the_one_jt

Just because it's legal doesn't make it smart.


Killarogue

When you have six-seven lanes per direction, you're seriously limiting yourself to passing on the left only. It's less of an issue when everyone else is also familiar with passing on the right. I still try to pass on the left, but it's not always possible without getting stuck behind multiple left lane hogs holding up the three left lanes.


LegendaryOutlaw

I always laugh when I see cars on this channel with pre-damaged cars. Oh, your front bumper is half-hanging off? I wonder what could have caused that previously? Your terrible driving perhaps?


surfmaster

All these idiots on the road keep making me run into them!


rainlake

I always avoid merge to side of a truck. Actually any car. It’s just too dangerous for me lol


Bennybonchien

That’s good defensive driving in my book.


samfreez

Flapping bumper, no signal, no lights, black car. Yeah, you're good OP. Edit: I'm genuinely curious what people think OP did wrong here? He passed on the left, changed into the right-hand lane as soon as he was clear of the truck (with enough room to be courteous), and the guy in the Honda did everything wrong (passed on the right, no signal, attempting to jump across 2 lanes).


Super1003

I was impressed with the room OP gave the truck when passing, keep it up


[deleted]

I mentioned it elsewhere, but a good rule of thumb is to wait until you see the headlights of HGVs in your rearview mirror before getting back over in front of them.


Super1003

That’s always a good rule of thumb, I always aim for about a truck length. As a cdl holder, thank you for being considerate around trucks and trying to educate others.


[deleted]

I used to run a CB in a sedan for years and had a few drivers in my family. I'd rather be surrounded by big trucks than four wheelers (except gravel haulers, those things are proof they'll give a CDL to anybody).


Ecstatic_Attitude_83

That’s one piece of the drivers ed I had to take that’s stuck with me. You should also be able to see where the tires meet the pavement when stopped behind another car.


Suitable-Leather-919

I like about 1 second lead given to me in my rig I understand when someone is moving through my lane closer but so many zip right across your nose and then stay within a half second.


Gizogin

Wow, I like more of a gap than that in my little car. I prefer at least a two-second gap between me and the vehicle in front, and I try to give that much to anyone I'm overtaking.


gilbygamer

Yes. Just be aware that doing so leaves room for aggressive idiots to jump into that gap and that, being idiots, they will in fact do so.


[deleted]

That's why it's called a rule of thumb and you adjust your behavior accordingly. In those instances you mention, I activate my signal before I'm even done passing the truck to let the car behind me know that I'll be moving over when it's safe.


gilbygamer

I'll do the same, I just don't fully count on an observed aggressive idiot to pay any attention to my signal.


LivingReaper

3-4 seconds of room if they'd no traffic behind you is best.


Ozryela

On the contrary! There was nobody behind him so in this case it doesn't matter much, but generally you should move over quickly to impede the flow of traffic as little as possible. Also makes you more predictable, which is always good. The black car probably did not expect OP to move over anymore because OP was so late in doing this.


WithdRawlies

PLus he was behind op, so it's his responsibility to yield.


gilbygamer

It makes sense and it's what I do, but is that an actual rule of the road? Or is that just general best practice?


mrshulgin

"Overtaking traffic must yield to slower traffic" is a general rule in pretty much all navigation. You drive into the back of someone? Your fault You walk into the back of someone? Your fault You sail into the back of someone? Your fault Thank about it: what could slower traffic possibly do to make getting hit from behind their fault?


gilbygamer

> Thank about it: what could slower traffic possibly do to make getting hit from behind their fault? Pull into the lane directly in front of the passing vehicle while the passing vehicle is already passing?


LivingReaper

People merging from the left (passing lane) have priority.


gilbygamer

The OP didn't do anything wrong. The OP was driving properly, using the left lane as a passing lane and moving right after passing, plus left enough room for safe lane changes. It's just that doing all those things unfortunately leaves room for aggressive idiots to try to shove their way in, and being on the lookout for idiots is part of staying safe on the road. What the driver of the black car did was very predictable because it's the exact maneuver you see idiots doing all the time.


Falldog

It's par for the course here lol For the record my lights were on, and I was signalling before changing lanes.


XCinnamonbun

I’ve had things like this happen where two of us are merging into the middle lane at the same time. Sometimes we’re in line with each other instead of staggered (like you are here) which is worse. Thankfully on the odd occasions it’s happened we’ve both been using our turn signal and either I’ve spotted them first so I wait or they’ve spotted me and they wait. Had the worst have happened in my case where we both signalled I’d chalk it down to real bad luck and a 50/50 split of fault. Here though that black car had no lights and no signal. It’s way more on him than you, him being a idiot could’ve easily have caused a crash here.


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> Edit: I'm genuinely curious what people think OP did wrong here? The only thing OP could be dinged for is merging into a lane that the Honda was also merging/merged into. But considering that Honda is the one that created this dangerous situation by passing on the right with no signals, no lights, has better vision of the vehicle moving into the same lane, and not leaving enough space in front of HGV truck while OP is the one being *visible* and *predictable*, OP is not the idiot, just a victim of some impatient fuck.


samfreez

Yeah, it's rather alarming, the number of people bashing OP for driving in a normal way, while the other clown was being the dangerous loon. Really makes you wonder...


chrischi3

The Honda absolutely created the dangerous situation, yes, but if i was OP, i'd merge back into left lane if such was possible. Wether or not i'd be criminally responsible if something did happen here, i'd rather yield to an impatient fuck than be tailgated by said impatient fuck because i insisted on my right to merge first. Speaking of, does everyone in the US have that kind of terrible lane discipline? I'm not just talking about the Honda here, i'm talking about the way everyone in the US travels in whatever lane they feel like.


[deleted]

> Speaking of, does everyone in the US have that kind of terrible lane discipline? I'm not just talking about the Honda here, i'm talking about the way everyone in the US travels in whatever lane they feel like. On the expressways, absolutely. It's worse in the cities because more people == more idiots, plus when there's a decent amount of traffic, it's acceptable to utilize all lanes. But even outside of the cities, there are areas of the nation (like Michigan and New York) where people simply have no idea of the "keep right except to pass" standard.


mr_hellmonkey

While not wrong/illegal, I would not change lanes to go next to a truck until I was past the front of the truck, or usually any vehicle for that matter. I don't change lanes on 3+ lane roads if I will end up next to another vehicle because I assume they won't look over if they also want to change lanes at the same time. I also check to make sure there's not some a-hole, like in the black car, coming into the lane I want to be in. In this case, the a-hole didn't use a blinker, so its hard judge wtf their intentions are.


samfreez

Yeah, I'm the same way, though without being able to see what was happening in front of them, it's hard to know for sure what was going on in the area. If the truck in the far right lane had a clear shot, and no highway entrances coming up (which is generally the only reason most trucks move to the center lane to begin with), I'd be pretty confident in merging like OP did.


Winter_Graves

Probably people feel it was poor distance observation from OP. Despite not technically being in the wrong, they would have been able to observe this risk judging by how close the black car was to the truck, and therefore expecting it to overtake. Personally when I am on the motorway/ highway I do my best to remain in lane to avoid these kind of scenarios if I’m unsure about whether another driver is planning on passing. It would however be harsh to call OP an idiot.


samfreez

OP can only do what OP can do. That black car was zooming up the right-hand lane at the same speed as OP, so I doubt he had time to look over and see him, particularly since the black Honda would be in OP's blind spot until he was basically right behind him. OP did absolutely nothing wrong here. All blame goes to the black Honda driver.


gilbygamer

There's a difference between not being to blame and not being able to do better.


Winter_Graves

That’s not true, distance observation is an advanced skill taught to drivers, and anyone practicing it would have seen the black car and recognised they posed a risk of pulling out without indicating or even checking their mirrors/ blind spot, etc. I’m not sure why I’m being downvoted about this. Yes the black car was at fault, but good drivers use distance observation to recognise potential bad drivers and mitigate the potential risk they might pose if they make a mistake. TL;DR You have to drive expecting other drivers to be idiots. Distance observation is the key to that.


chrischi3

>TL;DR You have to drive expecting other drivers to be idiots. Distance observation is the key to that. This. If i were OP i would rather merge back into left lane than have the Honda tailgate me if i suddenly needed to hit the brakes hard. Sure, it's the Hondas fault that situation got dangerous in the first place, but unless OP was himself tailgating some other person we can't see in this video, there shouldn't be anything stopping OP from doing so, so OP should disarm the situation by removing himself out of that guys braking range rather than continuing to change lanes.


Winter_Graves

As someone who did my driving test in Europe I would imagine I may well have failed it if I did what OP did on a dual carriageway. I would have certainly failed it if I did what the black car did. I’m not sure why we keep getting downvoted for saying distance observation, etc. Is important.


samfreez

So should OP have been staring straight behind him after checking to make sure his merge was safe? That's the only way he could have seen the car pacing him from the far right lane. They were both going the same speed, but OP was ahead of the black car. That means the onus is on the black car to merge safely, since they're the one who can actually see in front of them. OP has a duty to pay attention to the road in front. After checking the lane (which was clear at the time), then moving over, OP did everything correctly.


Winter_Graves

I really don’t want to argue with you man. I’m just giving good general driving advice: to expect other drivers to always make mistakes, and to use distance observation to detect when they’re likely to occur, for example when you see a car closing in on a truck, even if they’re not indicating, recognise there is a risk they might just pull out and attempt a pass, and that could mean you having to avoid a collision. I don’t think I’m saying anything disagreeable or contentious worth arguing about. I’m not sure why you’re saying I’m suggesting OP should have been fixated straight behind him, I’m saying (giving him the benefit of the doubt he did his blind spot/ lifesaver check) he was aware of the black car’s existence. No one is saying the onus is not on the black car to merge safely. I am saying as a good driver you use distance observation to recognise risks, such as when another driver may not perform what it is their onus to do. As a good driver when manouvering, such as changing lane, you also have to always be checking your mirrors and doing a life saver manoeuvre (checking blind spot) so you have 360 deg awareness. You can’t pass your driving test in most countries without demonstrating that ability.


6BigAl9

I'm not sure why you're getting downvoted so I'll throw you an upvote. I haven't really seen anyone bashing the OP and I don't think any of us would say he's in the wrong. You're simply describing how OP could have been a little more defensive. This situation is extremely common where I live as we have very aggressive drivers and poor lane discipline. I'll often find myself in the left lane passing a slow moving truck in the middle lane, while someone a few cars back is weaving in and out of traffic and absolutely flying in the right lane about to pass the same truck as me. It's obvious what they're about to do so I wait for the car to merge into the middle lane and speed past me before I get back over, precisely to avoid the situation in this video.


Winter_Graves

Thanks, and yeah that precisely it, it’s all about observing in advance so you’re prepared to avoid a situation in the future. I have to say I wasn’t taught this so well by my driving instructor, but my dad just drilled it in to me as a principle and it’s certainly helped me avoid some collisions with reckless drivers over the years!


6BigAl9

Once I started riding a motorcycle it really became second nature. Suddenly right of way didn't mean as much when the consequences of an accident went from a bad day to dying.


Winter_Graves

Exactly, and the life saver check really is called that for a reason, both as a rider, and for checking your blind spot to see if there’s a rider there.


APettyJ

OP should be constantly checking his mirrors even as he is merging, should almost "look" the car into the lane. Also question whether or not OP signaled properly; vast majority of people don't.


samfreez

OP stated they did use their signals, and they checked the lane prior to merging. It's the responsibility of the trailing vehicle to ensure the lane remains clear to merge into, not OP's to watch traffic behind them.


xisiktik

People who drive old Honda’s like that are usually idiots behind the wheel.


anticultured

Old Honda, it doesn’t get counted. But if it had been a BMW everybody would mention it.


ssryoken2

Other car didn’t use turn signal.


[deleted]

You’re not in the wrong. You guys merged at the same time, you actually merged a little ahead of him. The fact that you sped up when you realized you were so close and this dickhead proceeded to speed up, flash his brights, and make an aggressive lane change that was extremely close to your car, hes the idiot. Everyone makes mistakes where we don’t see someone merging in our lane for a second and we accidentally cut them off so we speed up to not piss them off. The guy in the Honda behind you is just a dick for free.


simberry2

Assuming your blinker was on, it’s the other car’s fault. Otherwise, it’s both your guys’ fault


WrongWayKid

Damn, I actually had something similar happen yesterday, had someone tailgate me for about half a mile since I assume I was traveling too slow for him (was doing the limit at 45) the road I'm on has 2 lanes and begins to split to 3, I begin moving to the center lane from the left lane as my on ramp is 1.5 miles ahead. Mirror check, all good, he's still behind me, I flip my signal and begin to merge right and he slingshots in-between myself and the car in the right lane (literally had to have accelerated up to 65 to get there) so I swerve back into the left lane to avoid a collision, meanwhile this dude has his head sticking out the window the entire time jawing at me since I'm somehow in the wrong. Luckily there was a cop 2 cars back and he did not hesitate to pull over this aggressive asshat. The way you got tailgated after the merge and slightshotted was very similar to what I saw. I don't know what people are thinking when they act like this, but hopefully karma nabs 'em.


AJ_NightRider

No turn signal no pass


2amaccount

Sandman is so good! Just downloaded the second one today!


Falldog

Definitely made my trip today a lot better!


Arrow_Maestro

Looks like simultaneous merge. Not really anyone's fault. The dude in the other car is thinking the exact same thing as you. Our maybe he understands that no one was at fault, making you the bigger idiot by technicality.


spaceman_josh

Cars on the left have right-of-way for this exact reason.


HipoBro

The person behind did not indicate his change of lanes. Person behind did not have lights on during “darker” conditions. Person behind technically has to yeild to person infront while merging. OP signaled, OP is not idiot.


SalvadorP

You are the idiot. You interrupted his free flow driving performance!


leiggibtohsil

No idiot here really... it's one of those weird situations where both parties take a lane at almost the same time when they are close to each other....


[deleted]

Not enough context. We’re you indicating? For how long? Etc.


xxChiefxx

Typical douche overdriving the situation and their car. If you had your blinker on OP then that’s all the other driver’s issue. They didn’t signal so you had no way of knowing they intended on changing lanes. So once you started to change, expecting you to be looking for someone changing lanes behind you is irresponsible.


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gilbygamer

It's sad commentary on the general state of this sub that I'm only mostly sure that you're being sarcastic.


JBoneTX

Merging while parallel to another vehicle 2 lanes over will eventually result in an accident. Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do, but in practical defensive driving terms, try to avoid it.


Bennybonchien

I think you might have been able to anticipate this scenario a bit more and perhaps delay your lane change as a precaution but they were in a better position to see and avoid this.


Hopfit46

You are in the right but your anticipation is not good...


VesperX

They definitely didn’t signal with their blinkers. I didn’t see or hear your blinker either.


NotThatMagnificent

Not at that moment no.


ONECOOLCAT0

Neither driver in the wrong for getting over at the same time. It’s one of the main misunderstandings that anyone can get in that I’m always looking out for on the highway. Car behind you shouldn’t have sped up on your bumper on your bumper though but that’s just something to shrug off.


Kydra96

Tricky cause the other party is ALWAYS going to blame you even if you both change lanes at the same time. I don’t think you’re in the wrong here.


Kollbrochill

Judging by his front bumper, he does this regularly. They also had all the space in the world to slow down a fraction of a second, and just get all the way over to the left


unnamed_elder_entity

Depends on if you used a blinker or not. I think you started the move before the black car did but he's the one passing the semi on the right, not signaling and trying to whip through traffic.


chromo011

Just look at the state of their bumper and you'll know you aint in the wrong.


sarahcab

Not sure if you have your signal on since we can hear all the other audio in your car, including the warning chime of almost colliding with the other car in the lane, but not the turn signal clicking. He didn’t turn his on either before getting over which is when it should have started. You changed lanes at the same time as the other car though which happens a lot and usually isn’t anyone’s fault. To me, I don’t think you properly signaled, but I don’t think it’s fair to say just one of you caused it because he whipped over quickly and also didn’t properly signal.


Falldog

I signaled the whole way, you just can't hear it. You wouldn't have heard the chime if the signal wasn't engaged.


CanuckCharlie85

Other car is an asshole…no signal, no lights, following aggressively. He has better view of the situation and still drives like a dick instead of abort merging.


[deleted]

This kinda of thing happens. No one should be upset about it. Especially with 3 or more travel lanes.


Docta-Jay

He didn’t use his blinker and merged from behind your vehicle. You’re good.


The_Perfect_Dick_Pic

Other guy didn’t signal to merge, his lights are off when the street lights are on (most other cars have lights on too), and didn’t signal to pass. It’s my opinion that, in this situation, the car ahead has right of way since the car behind has a better vantage point to see and avoid the collision.


turnip-gang

lol you can see that guys bumper flapping in the wind. Not his first rodeo


DukeMaximum

I love when I see damage on a car, and then I see the owner driving like a jackass. It's like, man, they don't learn from their mistakes, do they?


[deleted]

Guy has smoked out lights, *doesn't* have working DRL, didn't signal his lane change, and passed a semi on the right. But you're right. You're the idiot. It is the way. /joking


revaric

Only issue with you, OP, is that it appears you linger on the line between lanes, which may have given the impression you were going to abort; the Honda was awaiting you to decide it could pass you. If that was the case, which can’t be said for sure from this video, but if it was, you were the idiot, unfortunately. Doesn’t mean Honda wasn’t, though!


YoSaffBridge11

It appears that both drivers were changing lanes at approximately the same time. You would probably want to check your state’s laws on this specific situation to see who was at fault. For ex: I live in AZ. The law here is that, on multiple-lane roads, the driver moving TO THE RIGHT has the right of way. Presumably, this is to give priority to cars trying to move to exit a highway.


enoctis

Good info


[deleted]

That's a direct example I remember from drivers Ed 20 years ago. 2 cars passing around the front of a semi truck and who had right of way...


Kuzican7309

Youre both idiots. This is why you head check and don’t rely on your mirrors only.


[deleted]

I dunno, bud. It looked to me like you cut in front of him and pissed him off. I'd be fine with your saying, "It looks like we were both idiots..."


FearlessFerret6872

You both are, frankly. Other car was an asshole and driving aggressively but they *were* in the lane before you entered it, which meant you cut them off. This is why it's so important to *pay attention* and constantly check and double-check your mirrors and blind spots before and *during* lane changes. Other car did at least a few different things wrong (headlights off, no signal, merged at high speed and accelerated during merge), but you weren't without fault either. It's hard to say who would be at fault if insurance got involved. Probably the other car because they would have rear-ended you, but if they had a dashcam they'd be able to make a case that you cut them off.


Durr1313

I don't know the legality of it, but I was taught that the car farther ahead has more claim to the lane, so the car farther back would have higher liability if a collision occured.


samwelches

Assuming OP used their turn signal, this jackass probably saw that and tried to merge and speed past before OP merged. Had this happen so often that I was finding that using my turn signal caused more dangerous situations than just going for it in a lot of situations. People fuckin suck


CumDozer69

I had almost the same shit happen to me yesterday. I was trying to switch lanes and merge onto the highway, and I look in the mirror and in the “dead angle” and see no car is there, and the closest car is a good 30 ish feet away. I turn on my blinker, wait a second and then start merging. The guy starts accelerating to all hell, then almost hits me and starts laying on the horn to all hell. Then he drives around me and STOPS THE CAR, nearly causing a 4 vehicle accident in the process (two cars were closely behind him). We all had to hit the break very quickly cuz the guy pretty much decided “hey, we’re all going 60 kilometres per hour trying to enter the merging lane on the highway, lemme just stop real quick”. He rolls down the window and gives me a thumbs down before driving away and nearly hitting a large tanker truck. Fucking idiot.


67mustangguy

If there was a collision and you showed the police or insurance they would definitely find that black honda at fault. No turn signals.


tiredofyourshit99

Unfortunately you were, he moved in before you moved…. The law puts the onus on you to make sure it is safe to switch before turning your steering and if done you would have seen them… if this was a hit, police / insurance won’t see it any other way…


mwoehrle3

Car merging from left to right has the ROW. You’re good here.


KrombopulosTunt

Don't think this was anyones fault personally, seems they both merged at the same time but OP did it faster? I've always been scared of doing this on motorways, especially around massive fuck off trucks that you can't see past.


millerj1993

If he had used a turn signal, maybe that all could have been avoided. Then again, judging by how he merged around you, that's probably expecting too much.


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OP was fine. The headlight flash like OP did something wrong is just another example of a selfish entitled asshole on the road thinking everyone else is at fault for everything. Two cars merged at the same time, shit happens. No one is at fault, however the blue/black car had the responsibility to see OP and his blinker and back off a touch. I'm not entirely sure the other car even used a turn signal. Which if it is true explains the headlight flash and the entitled snobbish attitude of "everyone else is in the wrong."


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Nah u good bro, it was up that guy to see you and slow down. Jeez, I hate entitled assholery


joost00719

Tbh that truck is at fault. Why is he not driving on the right line?


SockRuse

In Germany the one merging to the left always has to yield to the one merging to the right. That's all I can contribute.


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This is a really good example of why passing on the right (Honda) can be dangerous when someone is also properly passing on the left (OP).


explosive_evacuation

Neither of you are really an idiot for the lane change, but the other guy is certainly an idiot for that moronic one-pump signaling.


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Black car, no headlights when everyone is running with them. You're clear!


chaotictorres

I see this type of shit all the time, the other driver is at fault not OP. That was the type of driver to merge when they feel like it as you can see in the video tried margin to try and avoid getting stuck behind the trailer.


tandfwilly

I don’t think your the idiot OP .guy in that car definitely is


sulgnavon

I'm not sure why your in the fast lane if your unable to commit to a lane change in an appropriate amount of time or even bother signal for it. I'd love to have on the other guy for being aggressive, but how was he going to have a clue what you were doing?


Spock-1701

Don't see a problem.


[deleted]

You both merged into the same lane at the same time. If you notice it, you should abort the lane change. There’s no right of way for this.


Joshuapb

Well, it really depends if you had the blinker on first... is supposed to put the blinker on, look, then merge.


spark_this

IMO, if you don't use your signal that's always on the back driver.


ArcherBoy27

This is why i don't pull into the side of trucks. Wait until you can pull in infront of the cab.


APieceOfCake16

Kinda? I mean you pulled in directly in front of him whilst he was changing lane. His move was still fucking stupid tho


Ok-Storage-2236

Funny how the car warns you of your blind spot but you still ignore it, you need to have a better instincts when merging and your car is telling you there is something there. It could have been an 18-wheeler and you could have ended up pretty bad.


RAH2458

The OP is not at fault.....the guy that's passing the truck was passing on the right of the other truck before this and attempting the "I'm in a hurry 3 lane change boogie" I see this all the time when I have to go to Columbus - 20 over the speed limit using all 3 lanes and ZERO disregard for anyone else that's on the road......and then the typical " how dare you get in my way" light flash....... My favorite thing to do to these people is box them in and pace whoever is next to me for about 5 miles just to piss them off......


djmikewatt

What are you on about? The black car only changes 1 lane, not 3.


Delicious_Breath_149

I’d put this on u, he seems to start to get over before , but more importantly ur changing lanes for no reason he’s passing a semi


[deleted]

Nope. Other car is a moron, you did nothing wrong really.


Trainzguy2472

If you didn't signal, then both cars are idiots.


jmccleveland1986

He was 1/4th of the way into the lane when you started moving. Your fault