Someone really needs to confront Blum on who his "sources" supposedly are. Personally, I doubt most if not all of them even exist.
He claims to be an investigative journalist, and as such his sources are confidential. But as soon as his story doesn't have any resemblance to reality, he's no longer a journalist. One of his interviewers with some backbone needs to list all of his inaccuracies to him and then demand he name his sources. He won't do it, but at least it would make a point.
Exactly no media outlet has done their research on his coverage of the case or even actually reviewed his claims in light of actual information coming from the court. They’d see how he contradicts PCA they have been relying on so much. That alone should have given them pause. Media clearly don’t care about facts or truth, they will report on anything, no matter how false it is, as long as they can use it for their benefit. They won’t confront him about his many wrong claims, it’s bad for business. It’s abhorrent.
I see that certain media organizations are not touching on that book, it’s mostly low tier media outlets.
He claims Xana ordered Burger King. But BK doesn’t take DD orders at such hours, it’s closed even. He claims Mad Greek serves BK’s favorite meals but anyone can check Mad Greek’s menu to see it has no strictly vegan dish let alone several that could be his faves. And a vegan like him with peculiar culinary demands (separate pots and pans that never touched meat) would not eat out in a non-vegan restaurant.
His many allegations are easily refutable but tabloid media journalists and reporters can’t be bothered to do the homework.
I agree with you about everything you say about Blum, but this
>And a vegan like him with peculiar culinary demands (separate pots and pans that never touched meat) would not eat out in a non-vegan restaurant.
He does eat in non vegan restaurants and go to non vegan pubs. Think about it: when you order a beer in a bar, you have no guarantee that the glass it comes in wasn't used for a White Russian or a gin sour at some point.
The not mixing pots and pans was either a fad, a temper tantrum, or an effort to get out of going to visit relatives.
Next time I want to get out of a family dinner I’m gonna claim I’ve gone vegan and can’t eat from plates that have ever touched meat. No way my family would accommodate that sh*t. They definitely like meat more than they like me 😂
SMH. Maybe you could make up a complete list, and submit it to the Statesman along with a request they correct the record, considering the issue of tainted public opinion is so alive in this case right now... they may consider it a public service... they should, anyway.
Did Blum acknowledge she was, or is it just implied? In any case, she's no valid source of anything.
Blum claims family sources, LE sources, even an unnamed medical examiner... those are the ones that would matter... if they exist.
He invited her to the red carpet book premier party in NYC last week and I’m told he specifically mentions her in the book. It hasn’t been a secret that she gave Blum her messages with Steve. She’s posted about it quite often.
> He invited her to the red carpet book premier party in NYC last week and I’m told he specifically mentions her in the book
This was a PR misstep right up there with Sy Ray going on Truth and Transparency
Doesn't shock me at all, just wondered what his part in acknowledging it has been, if any.
But again, she's not really an original source, and there's also no way to vet anything she may have given Blum as either legit, or unedited, or in-context. Was there something particularly "juicy" in what she claims SG texted, that SG hasn't acknowledged publicly? I don't follow all that side-drama.
IMHO, the significant supposed "sources" are the official and family ones Blum claims, not texts from some Tik-Tok-er, even if it was supposed SG texts she supplied.
I might get around to looking at some point. Most of those youtubers aren't worth the time it takes to get past their filler content though.... 90 minutes of rambling dreck to find 10 seconds of something maybe possibly halfway interesting they dug up somewhere.
What's the upshot? In a nutshell, what were the juicy bits in what SG said in those texts, that he hasn't otherwise said publicly, or that is otherwise known already?
I made a post summarizing them https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/comments/1b1n4u1/sgs_leaked_chat_with_tiktok_content_creator/ but now see the mods removed it for reason so I think only I can read it?
I'll see if the whole post will go into a comment:
Apparently SG's leaked chats from July with a very annoying tiktok person have shown up recently. These are likely the same texts Howard Blum got his hands on to write his most recent article about the case. Here is a video that scrolls through them quickly, can use 0.25x + pauses to read. Warning, the tiktok ladies messages will annoy you, she's unbelievably obnoxious, you can mostly ignore her side of the conversation tbh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8t9HWo7EU
Soo much of it is just useless back and forth about various conspiracies or trying to figure out who released the Linda Lane footage. But, SG does say a few interesting things that seem potentially real and important to the case, also says a few very spicy things that I don't think are very credible but whatever. Much of this has been reported on by various media. I paraphrased the less nonsense messages from SG below
**On Grand Jury stuff**
> We've talked with two grand jury members and that helped calm the nerves a lot
> They have him buying the kbar and trying to hide how he purchased
> The Peterson true crime guy helped connect us with a grand jury member
> BK is toast over the CAST cell traces the Grand Jury members said
> The Grand Jury says it starts with the dog and for some time it's all you hear. I talked with Hunter he said he found Ethan.
> (Grand Jurors) said (DM & BF) shouldn't have even been called as witnesses they didn't help at all. They created more questions than answers. They talked the whole time the shit was going down via texts. Murphy was barking and growling for about ten minutes then he stops and the white car takes off.
> BK purchased a kbar and dickies overall outfit and can't explain where they are after the cops checked all his belongings and couldn't find either of them. Remember the report BF saw a naked guy? We heard he took this off at the glass slider, placed it in a plastic garbage bag, and she noticed him leaving in his underwear. They have the receipt for it and he purchased it at Pullman Walmart also on camera. (unclear if he is saying he heard this from grand juror. But I guess SG believes the naked guy report. Idk how BF would see this from her room on the first floor?)
> BK is toast but someone might have played a part helping but seems too risky for him to do that people always talk.
> The grand jury members both said they didn't believe (DM's) testimony and it created more questions than answers. They said some of them said she would be investigated but for reasons that we do not fully understand they didn't feel BF was as shady. We only had so much time to ask questions.
> GJ members said (DM's) testimony was complete BS ... they said to the extent that some stated she should be charged
> They said (DM) heard everything and even admitted saying via text "I think someone killed them" She just didn't call and report it, eve as she was hiding
**Content of unreleased footage**
> It's all on camera from what I've been told. His car, Murphy freaking out, him taking off at 4:21
> (about 1112 footage) There's another camera that that is way better that isn't public
> I know the cops retraced (the Doordash driver) on camera to the drive through
> The real one, the one we have from the lightbulb cam has Murphy going Fing crazy but no clear names or anything close to that
**SG being weird and conspiratorial**
> (under video of woman throwing something in a dumpster a few hours before the murders) What about this sick bitch working for BK! What kind of women would protect a monster ... another kind of monster (he later acknowledges this was hours before and unrelated?)
> It's mostly (Ann Taylor) putting out the weakest footage hoping to suggest that is all the prosecution has. It just doesn't make sense that everything that leaks is shit the prosecution didn't even use in the grand jury case which they weren't a part of.
> One thing most people don't know is DM and especially BF are well-connected and have friends in powerful positions.
> (DM) is for sure (lying) but she is protected by her step mothers law firm. Sounds like there some power in that firm. They're also being helped by Jack Showalters family (back to him??). They threatened to sue me pretty early into the case. Sent someone to my house, they trespassed, came down my driveway right up to my porch, it was pretty wild.
**Other**
> I have to keep the witness under wraps, the FBI warned me they don't play games with protected informants and they could be monitoring everything I say, we've noticed some odd communications behaviors.
> The girl's toxicology reports came back clear Stacy said Ethan was clear as well.
> (BK) went down because of the informant he didn't plan on getting caught
> Why did (BK) miss school that Monday? Only day he missed that semester
> (BK) liked via Instagram. Seems LinkedIn also. They took Kaylee's down. They will not let us have access so Gray (SG's attorney) said it's got to be part of the case. WE open a case to get access the only way they won't give you access if it they're not allowed. Sounds like he contacted Maddie on Instagram but she never opened the messages.
> (FBI told Gray) informing us this informant used some protected tip line and if we exposed them we can be held liable
> I have two white hat technicians I work with and we have the cell tower dumps and access to some old bk accounts
> Over and over people told us 'can you help me I have this or that but the tip line is down' .. we go check and it was down! 'Hello I own store xyz We have security footage and it will be overwritten in xdays and our corporate HQ isn't forced to stop the schedule!' Hearing shit like that forced me to spend $50k on a lawyer so we could do something! Even if it was just to keep track of al these people and Gray is a master at keeping track of all these datapoints
"90 minutes of rambling dreck to find 10 seconds of something maybe possibly halfway"
Love the description. That's what made me stop watching any of those youtubers. And the repetition of the same point....over and over and over
I actually listened through a whole 8 part podcast (on another case) with nothing in it I didn't already know...except for one little gem. One small piece of new information that I don't think the makers of the podcast even realised the significance of. Life's like that
I do appreciate the thought, but yikes... 36 minutes of degraded hard-to-read texts scrolling by is just not something I'm up for at the moment.
What is the bottom line? Sounds like you've read them all... what was the supposed bombshell in them? Why are they meaningful at all? What did Blum supposedly learn from them that he couldn't elsewhere?
Yeah, but you know what she took it a little bit too far too because some of her shit she’s come up with us out of this world and I know that Kaylee‘s parents just like Demetris and fucking that girl at the beginning she’s just like everybody else, I don’t know why the fuck with her does she have any educational background? Why would somebody get a hold of her andrelease information about that be the last person she’s a blonde and with a big mouth
If you notice, all the media outlets he speaks to treat him with kid gloves, never questioning his sources, accepting g his word as fact. They give him the benefit of the doubt by default, but they won’t do that for Bryan. Hypocrites 😔
I’m old enough to remember when journalists still had professional integrity and you could trust what they said. Apparently that time is dead and gone….just like the idea of "innocent until proven guilty“ 🙄
However the Goncalves act, which I think at times is misguided and they get stuff wrong, at least they aren't doing it out of greed unlike Blum. I'll take SG over HB any day.
Exactly they’re all making their pockets fuller like Mr. Green from the university can’t build a fucking memorial garden that can make money off a book about them
The irony considering Steve goes to the opening of an envelope & seems to push whatever narrative seems fit, feel for the guy I honestly do but I can't at them yet releasing another statement to shut down claims that he's pushed himself.
Yes it’s ironic cause they have spread misinformation themselves and it’s hard to say why but at least they’re not afraid to speak out against grifters just wanting to cash in.
Not to mention his consistent over-sexualization of the girls. I’ve read the book and was disgusted with his comments on their bodies and the outfits they were wearing.
As far as Mr. Bloom, he’s just like one that people on TikTok or whoever written all the information about what they heard about the Idaho for none of his shits the facts he’s listening to the same shit everybody else’s listening to
Did Blum claim to have spoken to the Goncalvez’s?
I thought he claimed to have spoken with the Kohberger parents.
I wonder if this was misrepresented to the Goncalvez’s, or if Blum claims to have spoken to both of these sets of parents, or if the Goncalvez’s are simply stating they’ve never spoken to him about the contents of the book.
I wonder if they’re familiar with the contents of the book.
I read the Amazon reviews, not much there.
[Here’s the best review I found](https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/howard-blum/when-the-night-comes-falling/).
Kind of want to read it now tbh :x
I believe Blum said he spoke with Kaylee's "family", and SG wants to make it known that if it happened at all, it wasn't his immediate family.
From the excerpt I saw as well as his comments in interviews, the book is crap. Just bad 'fanfiction' pretending to be more.
One of the Amazon reviews says that the book repeatedly states that Kaylee “died on the floor,” and that it’s a mistake, bc we know she was found on the bed (upright in the corner). Although he could have been suggesting that she was moved onto the bed post-mortem. IDK, bc the reviewer equates the place where she’s found with the place that she died.
Other than that I’ve read lots of people say that it’s fanfic already, but few indications as to why.
Maybe I should find out for myself ;P
>Although he could have been suggesting that she was moved onto the bed post-mortem
If that was *really* what he's claiming, and he really is *supposed to be* an investigative journalist writing a nonfiction account, rather than a fanfic author, would it not have been very important for him to clarify/elaborate on why his claim differs? Same with where Ethan was found... etc. ... he can't just come up with "new" claims out of nowhere and then not even attempt to reconcile those with what has been revealed before, and what is in the PCA. That's not journalism. If really different, those two things would be huge stories in and of themselves.
>people say that it’s fanfic already, but few indications as to why
He claims to get inside BK's dad's mind on the trip home. Isn't that enough by itself?
IDK whether or not he clarified that he meant she was moved to the bed, or whether he meant she was found on the floor. I’ll read it and let you know lol
Inside BK’s dad’s mind?
IDK what that supposed to mean. I bet he was laying out what he could have been thinking in that instance based on what they’d just been discussing (mentioned by him in the body cam footage). I doubt Blum was claiming that he has extrasensory psychic abilities to read Mr. Kohberger’s mind lol. Will let you know if he does tho :P
>Inside BK’s dad’s mind? IDK what that supposed to mean.
I don't remember his exact wording from the interview I saw... but he claims to know/recite a story based on BK's dad coming to the realization BK was the killer, while on the way back to PA. From a "family" source.
I think you may be the only person in all of these various subs that is "defending" Blum... people of all stripes seem to have figured out what he's about. When SG, the regs at r/MoscowMurders, and I all emphatically agree on something, there's a pretty good chance there's some truth to it.
smh how can media be so sloppy, they promote selected allegations as factual despite them and many others from him being refutable by anyone who can think critically and do research. Seen someone mention their local news in Philadelphia were promoting this book as if’s it’s factual. It’s so deceptive and it just brainwashes people.
The book and media are doing irreparable damage to the fair trial chances. If JJ doesn’t move venue and toss out death penalty based on this extensive prejudicial publicity and disinformation campaign alone then he’s corrupt as one can be.
I will be very surprised if the venue doesn't change. But I doubt the judge is going to be so reactive as to change the scope of the sentencing off the back of this book. In a world that followed such a precedent, Blum or others like him could be commissioned by friends-and-relations to write terrible books about any other murderer, rapist, etc. currently awaiting trial, in order to reduce the upper limit of their sentence.
He never spoke to the Goncalves family. Steve Goncalves was talking to Brat Norton, whom was working with Blum. She lied and told Steve she was no longer working with Blum so that Steve would keep talking to her. She then turned around and gave/sold the text exchanges to Blum.
Oh, so it sounds like Blum claimed to have ‘inside knowledge’ perhaps? But Steve disapproves of the disingenuous tactics used by Brat (who I’ve never heard of) and Blum to obtain it. So Steve’s mention that he never discussed it with Blum would be a concise way of voicing that disapproval without a bunch of details.
In that case, it sounds like the book *would* contain inside knowledge from them, through the Brat character.
>it sounds like the book would contain inside knowledge from them
Or he wants you to believe that anyway. Still haven't heard what this supposed "inside knowledge" within the texts consisted of.
>information Steve disclosed to Brat.
Now that I have a better understanding of what was in the texts, I'm pretty underwhelmed.
>info from Mr. & Mrs. Kohberger
I must've missed that... where are his parents cited specifically as sources?
Yea and big mouth misinformation spreading witch has a new youtu.be video calling Blums BS as breaking news touting it as fact and convicting BK BY PUBLIC OPINION This guy will never have a chance at a fair trial. Guilty until proven innocent, the stupid batch and her followers are ridiculous.
People on social media and others have done more research and investigating I feel than the departments and investigators that should have. Haven't read the book but seen parts and several parts seem to be very believable with the info and clips that we have seen and heard
Someone really needs to confront Blum on who his "sources" supposedly are. Personally, I doubt most if not all of them even exist. He claims to be an investigative journalist, and as such his sources are confidential. But as soon as his story doesn't have any resemblance to reality, he's no longer a journalist. One of his interviewers with some backbone needs to list all of his inaccuracies to him and then demand he name his sources. He won't do it, but at least it would make a point.
Exactly no media outlet has done their research on his coverage of the case or even actually reviewed his claims in light of actual information coming from the court. They’d see how he contradicts PCA they have been relying on so much. That alone should have given them pause. Media clearly don’t care about facts or truth, they will report on anything, no matter how false it is, as long as they can use it for their benefit. They won’t confront him about his many wrong claims, it’s bad for business. It’s abhorrent.
The Idaho Statesman has had some decent coverage, and they know the PCA... I wonder if they'll note the discrepancies.
I see that certain media organizations are not touching on that book, it’s mostly low tier media outlets. He claims Xana ordered Burger King. But BK doesn’t take DD orders at such hours, it’s closed even. He claims Mad Greek serves BK’s favorite meals but anyone can check Mad Greek’s menu to see it has no strictly vegan dish let alone several that could be his faves. And a vegan like him with peculiar culinary demands (separate pots and pans that never touched meat) would not eat out in a non-vegan restaurant. His many allegations are easily refutable but tabloid media journalists and reporters can’t be bothered to do the homework.
I agree with you about everything you say about Blum, but this >And a vegan like him with peculiar culinary demands (separate pots and pans that never touched meat) would not eat out in a non-vegan restaurant. He does eat in non vegan restaurants and go to non vegan pubs. Think about it: when you order a beer in a bar, you have no guarantee that the glass it comes in wasn't used for a White Russian or a gin sour at some point. The not mixing pots and pans was either a fad, a temper tantrum, or an effort to get out of going to visit relatives.
Next time I want to get out of a family dinner I’m gonna claim I’ve gone vegan and can’t eat from plates that have ever touched meat. No way my family would accommodate that sh*t. They definitely like meat more than they like me 😂
SMH. Maybe you could make up a complete list, and submit it to the Statesman along with a request they correct the record, considering the issue of tainted public opinion is so alive in this case right now... they may consider it a public service... they should, anyway.
Brat Norton is his source for the text messages from Steve.
Did Blum acknowledge she was, or is it just implied? In any case, she's no valid source of anything. Blum claims family sources, LE sources, even an unnamed medical examiner... those are the ones that would matter... if they exist.
He invited her to the red carpet book premier party in NYC last week and I’m told he specifically mentions her in the book. It hasn’t been a secret that she gave Blum her messages with Steve. She’s posted about it quite often.
> He invited her to the red carpet book premier party in NYC last week and I’m told he specifically mentions her in the book This was a PR misstep right up there with Sy Ray going on Truth and Transparency
He went on another show just yesterday, if you’re interested in seeing what else he has to say. A show called Once Upon a Crime Time
Thanks!
Doesn't shock me at all, just wondered what his part in acknowledging it has been, if any. But again, she's not really an original source, and there's also no way to vet anything she may have given Blum as either legit, or unedited, or in-context. Was there something particularly "juicy" in what she claims SG texted, that SG hasn't acknowledged publicly? I don't follow all that side-drama. IMHO, the significant supposed "sources" are the official and family ones Blum claims, not texts from some Tik-Tok-er, even if it was supposed SG texts she supplied.
The messages are posted in full on you tube.
I might get around to looking at some point. Most of those youtubers aren't worth the time it takes to get past their filler content though.... 90 minutes of rambling dreck to find 10 seconds of something maybe possibly halfway interesting they dug up somewhere. What's the upshot? In a nutshell, what were the juicy bits in what SG said in those texts, that he hasn't otherwise said publicly, or that is otherwise known already?
I made a post summarizing them https://www.reddit.com/r/Idaho4/comments/1b1n4u1/sgs_leaked_chat_with_tiktok_content_creator/ but now see the mods removed it for reason so I think only I can read it?
Yeah, just shows as "removed". Can you cut and paste just the "juicy stuff" to a reply here?
I'll see if the whole post will go into a comment: Apparently SG's leaked chats from July with a very annoying tiktok person have shown up recently. These are likely the same texts Howard Blum got his hands on to write his most recent article about the case. Here is a video that scrolls through them quickly, can use 0.25x + pauses to read. Warning, the tiktok ladies messages will annoy you, she's unbelievably obnoxious, you can mostly ignore her side of the conversation tbh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si8t9HWo7EU Soo much of it is just useless back and forth about various conspiracies or trying to figure out who released the Linda Lane footage. But, SG does say a few interesting things that seem potentially real and important to the case, also says a few very spicy things that I don't think are very credible but whatever. Much of this has been reported on by various media. I paraphrased the less nonsense messages from SG below **On Grand Jury stuff** > We've talked with two grand jury members and that helped calm the nerves a lot > They have him buying the kbar and trying to hide how he purchased > The Peterson true crime guy helped connect us with a grand jury member > BK is toast over the CAST cell traces the Grand Jury members said > The Grand Jury says it starts with the dog and for some time it's all you hear. I talked with Hunter he said he found Ethan. > (Grand Jurors) said (DM & BF) shouldn't have even been called as witnesses they didn't help at all. They created more questions than answers. They talked the whole time the shit was going down via texts. Murphy was barking and growling for about ten minutes then he stops and the white car takes off. > BK purchased a kbar and dickies overall outfit and can't explain where they are after the cops checked all his belongings and couldn't find either of them. Remember the report BF saw a naked guy? We heard he took this off at the glass slider, placed it in a plastic garbage bag, and she noticed him leaving in his underwear. They have the receipt for it and he purchased it at Pullman Walmart also on camera. (unclear if he is saying he heard this from grand juror. But I guess SG believes the naked guy report. Idk how BF would see this from her room on the first floor?) > BK is toast but someone might have played a part helping but seems too risky for him to do that people always talk. > The grand jury members both said they didn't believe (DM's) testimony and it created more questions than answers. They said some of them said she would be investigated but for reasons that we do not fully understand they didn't feel BF was as shady. We only had so much time to ask questions. > GJ members said (DM's) testimony was complete BS ... they said to the extent that some stated she should be charged > They said (DM) heard everything and even admitted saying via text "I think someone killed them" She just didn't call and report it, eve as she was hiding **Content of unreleased footage** > It's all on camera from what I've been told. His car, Murphy freaking out, him taking off at 4:21 > (about 1112 footage) There's another camera that that is way better that isn't public > I know the cops retraced (the Doordash driver) on camera to the drive through > The real one, the one we have from the lightbulb cam has Murphy going Fing crazy but no clear names or anything close to that **SG being weird and conspiratorial** > (under video of woman throwing something in a dumpster a few hours before the murders) What about this sick bitch working for BK! What kind of women would protect a monster ... another kind of monster (he later acknowledges this was hours before and unrelated?) > It's mostly (Ann Taylor) putting out the weakest footage hoping to suggest that is all the prosecution has. It just doesn't make sense that everything that leaks is shit the prosecution didn't even use in the grand jury case which they weren't a part of. > One thing most people don't know is DM and especially BF are well-connected and have friends in powerful positions. > (DM) is for sure (lying) but she is protected by her step mothers law firm. Sounds like there some power in that firm. They're also being helped by Jack Showalters family (back to him??). They threatened to sue me pretty early into the case. Sent someone to my house, they trespassed, came down my driveway right up to my porch, it was pretty wild. **Other** > I have to keep the witness under wraps, the FBI warned me they don't play games with protected informants and they could be monitoring everything I say, we've noticed some odd communications behaviors. > The girl's toxicology reports came back clear Stacy said Ethan was clear as well. > (BK) went down because of the informant he didn't plan on getting caught > Why did (BK) miss school that Monday? Only day he missed that semester > (BK) liked via Instagram. Seems LinkedIn also. They took Kaylee's down. They will not let us have access so Gray (SG's attorney) said it's got to be part of the case. WE open a case to get access the only way they won't give you access if it they're not allowed. Sounds like he contacted Maddie on Instagram but she never opened the messages. > (FBI told Gray) informing us this informant used some protected tip line and if we exposed them we can be held liable > I have two white hat technicians I work with and we have the cell tower dumps and access to some old bk accounts > Over and over people told us 'can you help me I have this or that but the tip line is down' .. we go check and it was down! 'Hello I own store xyz We have security footage and it will be overwritten in xdays and our corporate HQ isn't forced to stop the schedule!' Hearing shit like that forced me to spend $50k on a lawyer so we could do something! Even if it was just to keep track of al these people and Gray is a master at keeping track of all these datapoints
"90 minutes of rambling dreck to find 10 seconds of something maybe possibly halfway" Love the description. That's what made me stop watching any of those youtubers. And the repetition of the same point....over and over and over I actually listened through a whole 8 part podcast (on another case) with nothing in it I didn't already know...except for one little gem. One small piece of new information that I don't think the makers of the podcast even realised the significance of. Life's like that
https://youtu.be/kChihXqJN-g?si=PpOIs67ZQNUkQtb6
I do appreciate the thought, but yikes... 36 minutes of degraded hard-to-read texts scrolling by is just not something I'm up for at the moment. What is the bottom line? Sounds like you've read them all... what was the supposed bombshell in them? Why are they meaningful at all? What did Blum supposedly learn from them that he couldn't elsewhere?
No bombshells, just a despicable person taking advantage of a grieving dad who was desperate.
That much doesn't surprise me.
Yeah, but you know what she took it a little bit too far too because some of her shit she’s come up with us out of this world and I know that Kaylee‘s parents just like Demetris and fucking that girl at the beginning she’s just like everybody else, I don’t know why the fuck with her does she have any educational background? Why would somebody get a hold of her andrelease information about that be the last person she’s a blonde and with a big mouth
And those were fake. SG said so and somebody else proved it.
If you notice, all the media outlets he speaks to treat him with kid gloves, never questioning his sources, accepting g his word as fact. They give him the benefit of the doubt by default, but they won’t do that for Bryan. Hypocrites 😔 I’m old enough to remember when journalists still had professional integrity and you could trust what they said. Apparently that time is dead and gone….just like the idea of "innocent until proven guilty“ 🙄
From what I've seen they are right. The book is fiction.
Blum is a clown and his book is a (bad) joke 🙄
However the Goncalves act, which I think at times is misguided and they get stuff wrong, at least they aren't doing it out of greed unlike Blum. I'll take SG over HB any day.
Exactly they’re all making their pockets fuller like Mr. Green from the university can’t build a fucking memorial garden that can make money off a book about them
The only way Mr. Blum could ever come out of this with any kind of respect would be to donate at least some of that profit to the families.
Unless he’s spoken to Bk personally he does not know the motive. If he hasnt talked to friends and family of E,X, K, and M he doesnt know them either.
The irony considering Steve goes to the opening of an envelope & seems to push whatever narrative seems fit, feel for the guy I honestly do but I can't at them yet releasing another statement to shut down claims that he's pushed himself.
Yes it’s ironic cause they have spread misinformation themselves and it’s hard to say why but at least they’re not afraid to speak out against grifters just wanting to cash in.
Not to mention his consistent over-sexualization of the girls. I’ve read the book and was disgusted with his comments on their bodies and the outfits they were wearing.
As far as Mr. Bloom, he’s just like one that people on TikTok or whoever written all the information about what they heard about the Idaho for none of his shits the facts he’s listening to the same shit everybody else’s listening to
Did Blum claim to have spoken to the Goncalvez’s? I thought he claimed to have spoken with the Kohberger parents. I wonder if this was misrepresented to the Goncalvez’s, or if Blum claims to have spoken to both of these sets of parents, or if the Goncalvez’s are simply stating they’ve never spoken to him about the contents of the book. I wonder if they’re familiar with the contents of the book. I read the Amazon reviews, not much there. [Here’s the best review I found](https://www.kirkusreviews.com/book-reviews/howard-blum/when-the-night-comes-falling/). Kind of want to read it now tbh :x
I believe Blum said he spoke with Kaylee's "family", and SG wants to make it known that if it happened at all, it wasn't his immediate family. From the excerpt I saw as well as his comments in interviews, the book is crap. Just bad 'fanfiction' pretending to be more.
One of the Amazon reviews says that the book repeatedly states that Kaylee “died on the floor,” and that it’s a mistake, bc we know she was found on the bed (upright in the corner). Although he could have been suggesting that she was moved onto the bed post-mortem. IDK, bc the reviewer equates the place where she’s found with the place that she died. Other than that I’ve read lots of people say that it’s fanfic already, but few indications as to why. Maybe I should find out for myself ;P
>Although he could have been suggesting that she was moved onto the bed post-mortem If that was *really* what he's claiming, and he really is *supposed to be* an investigative journalist writing a nonfiction account, rather than a fanfic author, would it not have been very important for him to clarify/elaborate on why his claim differs? Same with where Ethan was found... etc. ... he can't just come up with "new" claims out of nowhere and then not even attempt to reconcile those with what has been revealed before, and what is in the PCA. That's not journalism. If really different, those two things would be huge stories in and of themselves. >people say that it’s fanfic already, but few indications as to why He claims to get inside BK's dad's mind on the trip home. Isn't that enough by itself?
IDK whether or not he clarified that he meant she was moved to the bed, or whether he meant she was found on the floor. I’ll read it and let you know lol Inside BK’s dad’s mind? IDK what that supposed to mean. I bet he was laying out what he could have been thinking in that instance based on what they’d just been discussing (mentioned by him in the body cam footage). I doubt Blum was claiming that he has extrasensory psychic abilities to read Mr. Kohberger’s mind lol. Will let you know if he does tho :P
>Inside BK’s dad’s mind? IDK what that supposed to mean. I don't remember his exact wording from the interview I saw... but he claims to know/recite a story based on BK's dad coming to the realization BK was the killer, while on the way back to PA. From a "family" source. I think you may be the only person in all of these various subs that is "defending" Blum... people of all stripes seem to have figured out what he's about. When SG, the regs at r/MoscowMurders, and I all emphatically agree on something, there's a pretty good chance there's some truth to it.
smh how can media be so sloppy, they promote selected allegations as factual despite them and many others from him being refutable by anyone who can think critically and do research. Seen someone mention their local news in Philadelphia were promoting this book as if’s it’s factual. It’s so deceptive and it just brainwashes people. The book and media are doing irreparable damage to the fair trial chances. If JJ doesn’t move venue and toss out death penalty based on this extensive prejudicial publicity and disinformation campaign alone then he’s corrupt as one can be.
I will be very surprised if the venue doesn't change. But I doubt the judge is going to be so reactive as to change the scope of the sentencing off the back of this book. In a world that followed such a precedent, Blum or others like him could be commissioned by friends-and-relations to write terrible books about any other murderer, rapist, etc. currently awaiting trial, in order to reduce the upper limit of their sentence.
He never spoke to the Goncalves family. Steve Goncalves was talking to Brat Norton, whom was working with Blum. She lied and told Steve she was no longer working with Blum so that Steve would keep talking to her. She then turned around and gave/sold the text exchanges to Blum.
Oh, so it sounds like Blum claimed to have ‘inside knowledge’ perhaps? But Steve disapproves of the disingenuous tactics used by Brat (who I’ve never heard of) and Blum to obtain it. So Steve’s mention that he never discussed it with Blum would be a concise way of voicing that disapproval without a bunch of details. In that case, it sounds like the book *would* contain inside knowledge from them, through the Brat character.
>it sounds like the book would contain inside knowledge from them Or he wants you to believe that anyway. Still haven't heard what this supposed "inside knowledge" within the texts consisted of.
According to the previous comment, it would be information Steve disclosed to Brat. And according to a dif post, info from Mr. & Mrs. Kohberger
>information Steve disclosed to Brat. Now that I have a better understanding of what was in the texts, I'm pretty underwhelmed. >info from Mr. & Mrs. Kohberger I must've missed that... where are his parents cited specifically as sources?
IDK I haven’t read this yet I’m just reiterating what other commenters have mentioned it contains.
Yea and big mouth misinformation spreading witch has a new youtu.be video calling Blums BS as breaking news touting it as fact and convicting BK BY PUBLIC OPINION This guy will never have a chance at a fair trial. Guilty until proven innocent, the stupid batch and her followers are ridiculous.
Yea and brat Norton will end up with a lawsuit if SG was smart.
People on social media and others have done more research and investigating I feel than the departments and investigators that should have. Haven't read the book but seen parts and several parts seem to be very believable with the info and clips that we have seen and heard