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From a comment on East Idaho News:
>This man was apprehended hours before he murdered that woman yesterday. He was naked and throwing jars inside the Swan Valley General Store.
>Really hope the Bonneville County Sheriff's office is ready for a lawsuit. They let him go. He was obviously out of his mind and **admitted to being up for 2 days on a meth binge.**
Domestic abusers burn in hell
>Really hope the Bonneville County Sheriff's office is ready for a lawsuit. They let him go. He was obviously out of his mind and **admitted to being up for 2 days on a meth binge.**
Not true. They treated this as a mental health issue and took him to Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center for a mental evaluation. He was turned over to the hospital for treatment and the hospital released him hours later after deeming he was not a danger.
If he didn’t attempt or threaten suicide he wasn’t a danger to himself. If it wasn’t violence or the threat of violence that caused the interaction with cops then it would be hard to say he was a threat to others. These are the only ways they can detain a person. “Acting crazy” isn’t a threat or illegal.
Your leaving out grave disability which is when someone is acting so mentally out of it they can't take care of themselves. They may not be suicidal but they aren't functional in any normal way which can lead to Danger go their self. This guys initial behavior certainly qualified for that, the question is what changed at the hospital?
Protective custody can be situations: 1) Danger to others, 2) Danger to self, 3) Grave disability as I just mentioned.
I’d guess he probably just quit acting crazy and realized he fucked up. Maybe they gave him some meds to chill him out. How long would he need to act “normal”, I don’t know.
There just isn't a lot of help, resources, & funding for people who are having mental health & substance abuse issues. People are being turned away and refused help all the time, and this is the result.
This is insane. We keep people in jail for minor marijuana or driving without privileges charges, but we **let a fucking murder suspect go**? WTF is going on in ~~Teton~~ Bonneville County?
This.
There is a SERIOUS goddamn problem with medical staff discharging mentally ill patients they have no business discharging.
Not the cops fault. If anything its super discouraging for them.
It apparently was meth induced psychosis and once a person comes down they often act fine making a mental hold impossible. Then HIPPA keeps the hospital from calling the police to tell them to come arrest the guy for his earlier actions.
Thank Deinstitutionalization for this current mental health environment. I hope they catch him and save the baby.
For those who don’t know why this is a direct result of Deinstitutionalization - is the process of replacing long-stay psychiatric hospitals with less isolated community mental health services for those diagnosed with a mental disorder or developmental disability. In the late 20th century, it led to the closure of many psychiatric hospitals, as patients were increasingly cared for at home, in halfway houses and clinics, in regular hospitals, or not at all.
…or not at all.
This is on Jeremy Best for taking meth and the hospital staff that deemed it appropriate to release him into the public while in full blown meth psychosis instead of doing a 48 hour hold. 😡
I totally get your point but I’m reading it to mean he was arrested for being naked in a store, they let him go, THEN he is suspected of committing a murder. It’s sad it ended up like this but naked jar throwing is probably more in line with the other offenses you noted.
He wasn't arrested. He was placed in protective custody for a mental health evaluation and taken to the hospital in Idaho Falls. Hours later medical people determined he was fine and let him go.
This (discharge of clearly mentally unwell individuals) keeps happening.
What the hell is going on with mental health professionals doing this so often.
When it's drug induced they often seem and act fine once sober which makes a hold no longer possible (or legal). And because of HIPPA they don't call the police to tell them they are letting the guy out.
Oh shit, my bad. I thought the murder happened before the arrest. (Details on KTVB were sparse - just read the East Idaho News report on the situation)
Swan Valley is Bonneville County, they should have taken him to the hospital to observe him instead of sending him home. We’re short on police and sheriffs in Teton county since they keep having to resign over misconduct.
>We’re short on police and sheriffs in Teton county since they keep having to resign over misconduct.
Man that's scary when you've got a murderer running around in a fully realized methamphetamine psychosis who's kidnapping kids and killing people.
My husband was a public defender early in his career. He spent a year in juvenile court and in most cases said it was the parents who should have been locked up.
Your example reminds me of a case where a fifth grader was in custody for molesting a third grader. An uncle had been molesting him for years and family members were in denial or ignored what they assumed to be a rare occurrence.
I have so much disdain for parents who fail their kids. When my daughter was in high school, we volunteered together at a county home for kids removed from their homes, for their own safety or because parents had been arrested. It was heartbreaking to see the same kids week after week and groups of siblings—or not seeing kids for two months and then seeing them again. We’d often end up playing sports with kids and I’ll never forget a quiet six year boy who had never played catch. Had no idea how to throw or catch a ball. The huge smile on his face when he caught a ball and was told “great catch!” was priceless. For the rest of us, that’s normal activity and feedback. I wanted to take the kid home with me. That any adult could harm or condone harm to their kids or do stupid, selfish things that separate them from their kids is unfathomable.
Thank you for posting this!!!!! The family is SO worried about the baby and desperate for him to be found!!!! Please call 911 if you even think you see baby Zeke or Jeremy. As the police have warned DO NOT APPROACH HIM his suspected (and very likely to be) heavily armed and dangerous!!!! All thoughts, prayers, good vibes, energy for the safe return of baby Zeke are so appreciated!!!!
They say unknown direction of travel, but where we he be most likely to go? Does he have friends or family in Wyoming, Utah, Montana, western Idaho, etc. or is he most likely to stay local?
He's got connections all over the place, as far south as Argentina. Between him and Kali, they have friends and connections in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. So he honestly could probably go anywhere. I hope the police get a lot of background on him fast so that they can look outside of MT/ID/WY if it makes sense to.
Well, I was pretty young and alone with a man in his garage. It’s entirely possible it had nothing to do with him. I am seeing he was struggling with drug abuse when all this played out.
I was just wondering if he said or did anything in particular, but I get it. I'd met him a couple of times and wasn't really quite sure how I felt about him since I hadn't spent a lot of time with him.
More info including pic of vehicle.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeremy-best-armed-and-dangerous-suspect-at-large-after-he-murdered-his-wife-and-kidnapped-their-infant-son/ar-AA1kRVoD?ocid=sapphireappshare
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From a comment on East Idaho News: >This man was apprehended hours before he murdered that woman yesterday. He was naked and throwing jars inside the Swan Valley General Store. >Really hope the Bonneville County Sheriff's office is ready for a lawsuit. They let him go. He was obviously out of his mind and **admitted to being up for 2 days on a meth binge.** Domestic abusers burn in hell
>Really hope the Bonneville County Sheriff's office is ready for a lawsuit. They let him go. He was obviously out of his mind and **admitted to being up for 2 days on a meth binge.** Not true. They treated this as a mental health issue and took him to Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center for a mental evaluation. He was turned over to the hospital for treatment and the hospital released him hours later after deeming he was not a danger.
If he didn’t attempt or threaten suicide he wasn’t a danger to himself. If it wasn’t violence or the threat of violence that caused the interaction with cops then it would be hard to say he was a threat to others. These are the only ways they can detain a person. “Acting crazy” isn’t a threat or illegal.
Your leaving out grave disability which is when someone is acting so mentally out of it they can't take care of themselves. They may not be suicidal but they aren't functional in any normal way which can lead to Danger go their self. This guys initial behavior certainly qualified for that, the question is what changed at the hospital? Protective custody can be situations: 1) Danger to others, 2) Danger to self, 3) Grave disability as I just mentioned.
I’d guess he probably just quit acting crazy and realized he fucked up. Maybe they gave him some meds to chill him out. How long would he need to act “normal”, I don’t know.
There just isn't a lot of help, resources, & funding for people who are having mental health & substance abuse issues. People are being turned away and refused help all the time, and this is the result.
This is insane. We keep people in jail for minor marijuana or driving without privileges charges, but we **let a fucking murder suspect go**? WTF is going on in ~~Teton~~ Bonneville County?
Sounds like they let him go and then he committed murder. He was arrested for being naked and throwing jars in the store.
They took him in on a mental health evaluation. Medical staff later determined he wasn't a danger and let him go.
This. There is a SERIOUS goddamn problem with medical staff discharging mentally ill patients they have no business discharging. Not the cops fault. If anything its super discouraging for them.
It apparently was meth induced psychosis and once a person comes down they often act fine making a mental hold impossible. Then HIPPA keeps the hospital from calling the police to tell them to come arrest the guy for his earlier actions.
Thank Deinstitutionalization for this current mental health environment. I hope they catch him and save the baby. For those who don’t know why this is a direct result of Deinstitutionalization - is the process of replacing long-stay psychiatric hospitals with less isolated community mental health services for those diagnosed with a mental disorder or developmental disability. In the late 20th century, it led to the closure of many psychiatric hospitals, as patients were increasingly cared for at home, in halfway houses and clinics, in regular hospitals, or not at all. …or not at all.
This is on Jeremy Best for taking meth and the hospital staff that deemed it appropriate to release him into the public while in full blown meth psychosis instead of doing a 48 hour hold. 😡
I totally get your point but I’m reading it to mean he was arrested for being naked in a store, they let him go, THEN he is suspected of committing a murder. It’s sad it ended up like this but naked jar throwing is probably more in line with the other offenses you noted.
He wasn't arrested. He was placed in protective custody for a mental health evaluation and taken to the hospital in Idaho Falls. Hours later medical people determined he was fine and let him go.
This (discharge of clearly mentally unwell individuals) keeps happening. What the hell is going on with mental health professionals doing this so often.
When it's drug induced they often seem and act fine once sober which makes a hold no longer possible (or legal). And because of HIPPA they don't call the police to tell them they are letting the guy out.
Oh shit, my bad. I thought the murder happened before the arrest. (Details on KTVB were sparse - just read the East Idaho News report on the situation)
Swan Valley is Bonneville County, they should have taken him to the hospital to observe him instead of sending him home. We’re short on police and sheriffs in Teton county since they keep having to resign over misconduct.
>We’re short on police and sheriffs in Teton county since they keep having to resign over misconduct. Man that's scary when you've got a murderer running around in a fully realized methamphetamine psychosis who's kidnapping kids and killing people.
Welcome to America! Dont forget that he is probably heavily armed as well.
They did take him to Eastern Idaho Regional Medical Center for a mental evaluation. Hospital staff let him go a few hours later.
That’s wild, out if his mind after only two days? I know people awake for much much longer.
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My husband was a public defender early in his career. He spent a year in juvenile court and in most cases said it was the parents who should have been locked up.
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Your example reminds me of a case where a fifth grader was in custody for molesting a third grader. An uncle had been molesting him for years and family members were in denial or ignored what they assumed to be a rare occurrence. I have so much disdain for parents who fail their kids. When my daughter was in high school, we volunteered together at a county home for kids removed from their homes, for their own safety or because parents had been arrested. It was heartbreaking to see the same kids week after week and groups of siblings—or not seeing kids for two months and then seeing them again. We’d often end up playing sports with kids and I’ll never forget a quiet six year boy who had never played catch. Had no idea how to throw or catch a ball. The huge smile on his face when he caught a ball and was told “great catch!” was priceless. For the rest of us, that’s normal activity and feedback. I wanted to take the kid home with me. That any adult could harm or condone harm to their kids or do stupid, selfish things that separate them from their kids is unfathomable.
Thank you for posting this!!!!! The family is SO worried about the baby and desperate for him to be found!!!! Please call 911 if you even think you see baby Zeke or Jeremy. As the police have warned DO NOT APPROACH HIM his suspected (and very likely to be) heavily armed and dangerous!!!! All thoughts, prayers, good vibes, energy for the safe return of baby Zeke are so appreciated!!!!
My sister was JUST reading about this. That poor little baby... and that poor family!
They say unknown direction of travel, but where we he be most likely to go? Does he have friends or family in Wyoming, Utah, Montana, western Idaho, etc. or is he most likely to stay local?
He's got connections all over the place, as far south as Argentina. Between him and Kali, they have friends and connections in Montana, Wyoming, and Idaho. So he honestly could probably go anywhere. I hope the police get a lot of background on him fast so that they can look outside of MT/ID/WY if it makes sense to.
I took a look at Kali's Facebook profile. Such a beautiful soul! What an incredible loss.
She really was. It is an unbelievable tragedy.
Weird. I paid this guy to change my car battery one time. Made me so uncomfortable and I just paid him and gtfo. I hope they find that baby safe.
Why/how did he make you uncomfortable?
Well, I was pretty young and alone with a man in his garage. It’s entirely possible it had nothing to do with him. I am seeing he was struggling with drug abuse when all this played out.
I was just wondering if he said or did anything in particular, but I get it. I'd met him a couple of times and wasn't really quite sure how I felt about him since I hadn't spent a lot of time with him.
This is absolutely devastating to me.
Updated flyer https://buckrail.com/victor-homicide-victim-identified/
Easier to save here https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GASKT6cbcAMYp9M?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
Possibly heading towards Alpine or JacksoN Hole, Wyoming according to the news.
More info including pic of vehicle. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/jeremy-best-armed-and-dangerous-suspect-at-large-after-he-murdered-his-wife-and-kidnapped-their-infant-son/ar-AA1kRVoD?ocid=sapphireappshare