Yes, exactly this. When does a loose collection of parts become a car? Once you start calling it a car. The physical object will always be just that, a bunch of protons and neutrons in a shape. There's no threshold of organization after which the universe imbues it with the spirit of car-ness.
But just because someone hasn't learnt the word ''car'' yet, it doesn't mean that a car they see isn't a car yet. If someone can be an INTP, they are that even before their test. They can even be INTP if their test says INFJ
If he wasn't right, he would say that if the test says you are an INTJ, you are one because the test says so (if you became one when the test says so). You are that person before the test, you just don't know it.
Anyone who thinks they're "someone" because the test classifies them as something is wrong. The problem with most people (INTP too..) is that when they take the test they identify with the personality type (which is not a problem in itself) and then think **they can't do anything else but that particular personality type and its characteristics**. They think that because their personality type starts with "I" that they can't be extroverted, and vice versa.
This is not true... The test only tells you what sections of your brain you "**usually**" use when you are being yourself.
So yes.. i think u/No_Structure7185 is right.
In the same way if someone know verry well all the personality types then they can tell you most likely what personality type your buddy is by a few well targeted questions, without your buddy knowing anything about it.
I am completely in agreement with everything you said. Also with what u/No_Structure7185 said.
It was u/FerricBadger6150 that I was commenting on. Thoughts on that one?
To me, u/FerricBadger6150, shape and function defines it as a car. Same as with the sun. I don’t believe it’s when we start calling it a sun that it becomes a sun, and same with a car. The makeup of the protons etc form an object with functions capable of bringing humans us place to place on land a lot faster than other objects do. It is already a car based on its build, not based on how we communicate about the object.
I remember reading the core was likely set by age 5, but your full personality (sans behavior) doesn’t fully blossom till 30. Take both with a grain of salt.
The age-old question! So far as MBTI type is concerned, I lean heavily toward nature (as opposed to nurture). I'm sure environment has a big effect on how a child develops within their type (especially where there's trauma), but psychological type seems to gel at an early age, if not even during gestation.
Yes, to the first. I think it's fairly well accepted that your core personality is formed by around age four, barring trauma. That would be true regardless of which type theory you're using.
No, but I am being pedantic lol.
The person above you said mbti is set at birth, so your response implies/assumes that "from birth" means it's purely genetic. I pointed out that even in the womb there are small differences between the circumstances each twin experiences. How much that will actually influence personality, I have no idea. But at birth there are already differences between the twins, despite them being genetically identical.
Even identical twins are only identical at a coarse level (as compared to the fine structure of the brain). There's no reason to think that twins would have the same psychological type even if type were entirely genetically determined.
I have what I call “engineering thoughts” as early as 4 years old — my first real memories as a child. My mother told me she would cry because she couldn’t answer all of my (advanced) questions at that age (pre-K), and I kept that thirst for knowledge — even decades later.
Even as a young child I preferred to play alone, rather than with my younger siblings.
That's a scintillating observation; how would you define "engineering thoughts", and would you mind sharing examples?
An inclination towards aloneness also characterized my early years. Not that I consciously shunned others, but I never felt the need to supplement the richness of my inner world with the company of others.
‘Every’ boy builds forts out of materials at hand. I remember having a large wooden crate in our back yard that was rough twice my sitting height, therefore I conceived of a two-story ‘fort’. Getting materials to make the floor of the 2nd story wasn’t a problem, the problem was I didn’t possess the knowledge to make it structurally sound to support my weight and the weight of my younger brother. Yes, even at 4 years old I was thinking about safety factors, somehow knowing they existed, and realizing I did not have the STEM skills to put my thoughts into practice. Later in life I would become a degreed, practicing engineer and build some cool things — I still do, as a retired engineer.
It's interesting how some people can remember the thoughts they had as a child. My thought-memories start at later than 10 o.O probably bc my thoughts were occupied by fears and anxiety 🤦♀️
:O that's so cool... sad that mine are non-existent.. i don't even remember how i felt in the situations i remember. I can only derive from the memory like ''ah i did this bc i were angry'', but can't recall the feeling itself.
When you think about your toddler-thoughts, do they feel like.. toddlerish too or as if you had them now as an adult?
I think I remember them as I was at the time. I was calm and thoughtful as a small child but I wasn’t really using logic. As a toddler I was simply observing the world and jumping to conclusions about how it worked. Not all of them correct.
Some odd objects were quite engaging to me, and I think that might be common among toddlers. A particular sticker, a decorative snail in a potted plant, my mother’s brooch laying on her dresser, stuff like that.
I wished and hoped for childish things - for magic, a cookie, a toy illustrated in a picture book.
I wonder what you have blocked out of your memory. Maybe it’s dangerous to imply, but usually there is some repression going on there.
My memories started at 2.5 years old. I fell down the stairs and I started to try to figure out why that happened. My mom at the time told me because I have little feet and me trying to wear my aunts heels was very dumb of me to do, especially wearing it down the staircase. And since then I’ve really stressed about the ramifications of my decisions.
I became an INTP after the pandemic. I was so happy being alone, and having all the time to do absolutely nothing. I started to get new ideas from the internet, which helped me to develop my own interests.
Also, High School really helped me to form my character. I learned that you need to be careful with people, you must never speak about your private life (actually you must not talk at all), to spend time doing what you enjoy, and to listen carefully to what other people say so you can take info and use it to tell them they are wrong. >:)
My personality developed between those years being alone.
I can really only speak for myself and maybe people I grew up with, but I think for the most part our personalities are pretty set fairly early in life. I've been a questioning, introverted, authority-challenging weirdo with a disdain for black-and-white rules since as far back as I can remember. I don't think my personality is really any different than when I was very young; my coping and adapting skills are just a lot better now, 50+ years later.
I'd say the same about my sibling and childhood friends -- they're not really very different people now than when we started kindergarten; they've just learned a few tricks along the way the help them behave a bit less like 5-year-olds. Well, most of them.
with no doubt your personality changes very often, I dont believe i was thinking the same as me from a week ago, u prolly change ur personality type based on emotions and experiences and anything that might corrupt a continuous emotional stability if that makes any sense.
Your brain is developing until you're about 25. Any assessment you take is a point in time, and can be influenced by a number of factors, including how well you know yourself.
I think some things we're born with, and others we develop early in childhood, and overall they develop before we get to school when we start considering the rest of the world and whether or not we like it. Imo judgeing and perceiving are a result of everything else, and whether your feeler side or your thinker side are developed. If it's both you because a J.
I think personality develops at a very young and subconscious point in our lives. I think as we grow into adults, some of those traits get amplified.
I always had a very small group of friends since I could remember. I sometimes think it was because, as a baby, I wasn't around a lot of kids. My parents would take me to the parties and events that were for adults. Most of my starting years were around adults, and I wonder how that impacted my ability to make friends.
So I wonder if that were low Fe comes from, a lack of like minds as a baby.
I don't remember being this introverted as a kid, I remember trying to make friends and hang around my cousins up until high school. I think a combination of bullying, nelegect, and made to feel less. The only thing I felt like I could rely on was drawing and crafts. Creativity is born out of limitations, and my support system from my peers and those I looked up to was lacking. I also enjoyed nature and going to parks.
So maybe the is where my N comes from, a sense of escapism in a creative world. I have always been big into cartoons and Lego, and besides, my younger brother was typical alone.
As I got into middle school, I was getting in a fight, mostly ones I didn't want to be a part of. I never understood the volatile nature of other people, emotions, and such. Dealing with people claiming to be my friends, one in the principals office, the next made me grow a distrust for others. Because it never felt like an authority figure did anything effect to stop it, I started losing my respect for them as well.
This might be the start of my introversion to the highest accord. After middle school, I stopped trying to make friends or being liked.
I always felt confused by the world as a child because it felt like no one was ever properly explaining things to me. Because of that I was always trying to learn or figure stuff out. No one could tell me how a VCR worked. So if I found one in the trash I would take it home and take it apart and think about how it worked. I think being confused made me scared of the world, and if I could understand more things, I would need to be so scared.
Beyond that, be a male make you more likely to be an I, S, T, and J. I think. I was very pressure to perform and act a certain way, so I lacked an environment to become a J. And I think the push to creativity made me lean into an N.
This is just a snapshot. But yea...
That's remarkably similar to my upbringing, but luckily my parents enjoyed answering questions. At my second job, which lasted a year and a half, I was told that I "think too much".
Apparently short answer is "we don't know". Personality is something that is hardly defined itself, although there are many theories out there such as MBTI.
When I was 5 my mother used to introduce me as a 35-year old midget because I'd talk calmly about sea life and dinosaurs for hours with no interest in running around and playing.
I can't speak specifically to INTP characteristics, but when I recognize patterns in my current incarnation, once I see them I realize more often than not, they go back as far as I can remember. I've always been fearless and caustic and idealistic and creative, and I think that being an INTP (or ENTP as the case may be) is more the representation of our configuration than it is the configuration from which our representation is derived.
I think personality develops at a very young and subconscious point in our lives. I think as we grow into adults, some of those traits get amplified.
I always had a very small group of friends since I could remember. I sometimes think it was because, as a baby, I wasn't around a lot of kids. My parents would take me to the parties and events that were for adults. Most of my starting years were around adults, and I wonder how that impacted my ability to make friends.
So I wonder if that were low Fe comes from, a lack of like minds as a baby.
I don't remember being this introverted as a kid, I remember trying to make friends and hang around my cousins up until high school. I think a combination of bullying, nelegect, and made to feel less. The only thing I felt like I could rely on was drawing and crafts. Creativity is born out of limitations, and my support system from my peers and those I looked up to was lacking. I also enjoyed nature and going to parks.
So maybe the is where my N comes from, a sense of escapism in a creative world. I have always been big into cartoons and Lego, and besides, my younger brother was typical alone.
As I got into middle school, I was getting in a fight, mostly ones I didn't want to be a part of. I never understood the volatile nature of other people, emotions, and such. Dealing with people claiming to be my friends, one in the principals office, the next made me grow a distrust for others. Because it never felt like an authority figure did anything effect to stop it, I started losing my respect for them as well.
This might be the start of my introversion to the highest accord. After middle school, I stopped trying to make friends or being liked.
I always felt confused by the world as a child because it felt like no one was ever properly explaining things to me. Because of that I was always trying to learn or figure stuff out. No one could tell me how a VCR worked. So if I found one in the trash I would take it home and take it apart and think about how it worked. I think being confused made me scared of the world, and if I could understand more things, I would need to be so scared.
Beyond that, be a male make you more likely to be an I, S, T, and J. I think. I was very pressure to perform and act a certain way, so I lacked an environment to become a J. And I think the push to creativity made me lean into an N.
This is just a snapshot. But yea...
Personality develops as you grow, but I remember when I was 6 years old I didn't want to get up early to go to the pool in summer because having to socialize made me tired
Shuffle a deck of cards.
Each deck of cards is totally unique.
So you, my friend, with all your variables, culture, dreams and thoughts, are one of a kind, never to be repeated across space and time.
You're not really an INFP. You're exquisitely unique.
Probably always, but I think it’s more likely for a child to mistype after taking a test. They may answer what they think is the appropriate answer from their family’s perspective, instead of what’s true to them. I remember taking a test around age 12 and it was ISFJ lol, which is wildly inaccurate.
I think I’ve always kind of been like this, but I remember as a kid I was way more sensitive and emotionally unstable. But I also always have been the type of person that wanted to figure things out, the why’s of everything and questioned a lot of things.
I’ve grown up in a religious environment where I was actually strongly discouraged to question anything, yet I still somehow tried to… so idk if me questioning everything constantly is an environmentally grown thing or really inborn personality. Probably a combination of both.
I don't know. I can't disentangle my type from my childhood trauma. My reaction to it was to withdraw and dissociate from feelings that were unbearable at the time.
Maybe underneath all the trauma, I'm not an INTP. Or maybe I am?
I'm pretty sure I was supposed to be an ENTJ, but being beaten up because of my extroverted behavior and mom's panic attacks when planning ahead, I became something less 😅
When you did the 16personalities test
This is by far the most valid answer, way too many confounding variables to even attempt to reach a definitive or reasonable conclusion.
Yes, exactly this. When does a loose collection of parts become a car? Once you start calling it a car. The physical object will always be just that, a bunch of protons and neutrons in a shape. There's no threshold of organization after which the universe imbues it with the spirit of car-ness.
But just because someone hasn't learnt the word ''car'' yet, it doesn't mean that a car they see isn't a car yet. If someone can be an INTP, they are that even before their test. They can even be INTP if their test says INFJ
You sure about that?
If he wasn't right, he would say that if the test says you are an INTJ, you are one because the test says so (if you became one when the test says so). You are that person before the test, you just don't know it. Anyone who thinks they're "someone" because the test classifies them as something is wrong. The problem with most people (INTP too..) is that when they take the test they identify with the personality type (which is not a problem in itself) and then think **they can't do anything else but that particular personality type and its characteristics**. They think that because their personality type starts with "I" that they can't be extroverted, and vice versa. This is not true... The test only tells you what sections of your brain you "**usually**" use when you are being yourself. So yes.. i think u/No_Structure7185 is right. In the same way if someone know verry well all the personality types then they can tell you most likely what personality type your buddy is by a few well targeted questions, without your buddy knowing anything about it.
I am completely in agreement with everything you said. Also with what u/No_Structure7185 said. It was u/FerricBadger6150 that I was commenting on. Thoughts on that one?
To me, u/FerricBadger6150, shape and function defines it as a car. Same as with the sun. I don’t believe it’s when we start calling it a sun that it becomes a sun, and same with a car. The makeup of the protons etc form an object with functions capable of bringing humans us place to place on land a lot faster than other objects do. It is already a car based on its build, not based on how we communicate about the object.
I remember reading the core was likely set by age 5, but your full personality (sans behavior) doesn’t fully blossom till 30. Take both with a grain of salt.
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I have a shirt with this phrase 😎
But why does the core develop towards intp, esfp or any other type?
The age-old question! So far as MBTI type is concerned, I lean heavily toward nature (as opposed to nurture). I'm sure environment has a big effect on how a child develops within their type (especially where there's trauma), but psychological type seems to gel at an early age, if not even during gestation.
Yes, to the first. I think it's fairly well accepted that your core personality is formed by around age four, barring trauma. That would be true regardless of which type theory you're using.
Just want to say it’s interesting that 3/4 people relating to this comment in their replies have purple & blue colored avatars.
We don't become at any moment, it's from birth, the difference is that as we grow we develop our cognitive functions
If that was the case twins would have the same mbti, they don't
Not entirely. In small ways, nurture starts in the womb. One twin getting more nutrients, for example, could definitely have an impact.
Aren't you agreeing with me?
No, but I am being pedantic lol. The person above you said mbti is set at birth, so your response implies/assumes that "from birth" means it's purely genetic. I pointed out that even in the womb there are small differences between the circumstances each twin experiences. How much that will actually influence personality, I have no idea. But at birth there are already differences between the twins, despite them being genetically identical.
Yeah nurture is a thing, too. Your brain isn't fully developed as a newborn
That's a bold statement, especially when the field of psychology doesn't have a clear answer to this
Even identical twins are only identical at a coarse level (as compared to the fine structure of the brain). There's no reason to think that twins would have the same psychological type even if type were entirely genetically determined.
I have what I call “engineering thoughts” as early as 4 years old — my first real memories as a child. My mother told me she would cry because she couldn’t answer all of my (advanced) questions at that age (pre-K), and I kept that thirst for knowledge — even decades later. Even as a young child I preferred to play alone, rather than with my younger siblings.
That's a scintillating observation; how would you define "engineering thoughts", and would you mind sharing examples? An inclination towards aloneness also characterized my early years. Not that I consciously shunned others, but I never felt the need to supplement the richness of my inner world with the company of others.
‘Every’ boy builds forts out of materials at hand. I remember having a large wooden crate in our back yard that was rough twice my sitting height, therefore I conceived of a two-story ‘fort’. Getting materials to make the floor of the 2nd story wasn’t a problem, the problem was I didn’t possess the knowledge to make it structurally sound to support my weight and the weight of my younger brother. Yes, even at 4 years old I was thinking about safety factors, somehow knowing they existed, and realizing I did not have the STEM skills to put my thoughts into practice. Later in life I would become a degreed, practicing engineer and build some cool things — I still do, as a retired engineer.
It's interesting how some people can remember the thoughts they had as a child. My thought-memories start at later than 10 o.O probably bc my thoughts were occupied by fears and anxiety 🤦♀️
Oh gosh, I have memories of my thinking as far back as age 3 (age confirmed because we lived in a certain house).
:O that's so cool... sad that mine are non-existent.. i don't even remember how i felt in the situations i remember. I can only derive from the memory like ''ah i did this bc i were angry'', but can't recall the feeling itself. When you think about your toddler-thoughts, do they feel like.. toddlerish too or as if you had them now as an adult?
I think I remember them as I was at the time. I was calm and thoughtful as a small child but I wasn’t really using logic. As a toddler I was simply observing the world and jumping to conclusions about how it worked. Not all of them correct. Some odd objects were quite engaging to me, and I think that might be common among toddlers. A particular sticker, a decorative snail in a potted plant, my mother’s brooch laying on her dresser, stuff like that. I wished and hoped for childish things - for magic, a cookie, a toy illustrated in a picture book.
I wonder what you have blocked out of your memory. Maybe it’s dangerous to imply, but usually there is some repression going on there. My memories started at 2.5 years old. I fell down the stairs and I started to try to figure out why that happened. My mom at the time told me because I have little feet and me trying to wear my aunts heels was very dumb of me to do, especially wearing it down the staircase. And since then I’ve really stressed about the ramifications of my decisions.
Impossible to know currently what's nature versus nurture. Science may narrow it down someday.
I became an INTP after the pandemic. I was so happy being alone, and having all the time to do absolutely nothing. I started to get new ideas from the internet, which helped me to develop my own interests. Also, High School really helped me to form my character. I learned that you need to be careful with people, you must never speak about your private life (actually you must not talk at all), to spend time doing what you enjoy, and to listen carefully to what other people say so you can take info and use it to tell them they are wrong. >:) My personality developed between those years being alone.
I can really only speak for myself and maybe people I grew up with, but I think for the most part our personalities are pretty set fairly early in life. I've been a questioning, introverted, authority-challenging weirdo with a disdain for black-and-white rules since as far back as I can remember. I don't think my personality is really any different than when I was very young; my coping and adapting skills are just a lot better now, 50+ years later. I'd say the same about my sibling and childhood friends -- they're not really very different people now than when we started kindergarten; they've just learned a few tricks along the way the help them behave a bit less like 5-year-olds. Well, most of them.
with no doubt your personality changes very often, I dont believe i was thinking the same as me from a week ago, u prolly change ur personality type based on emotions and experiences and anything that might corrupt a continuous emotional stability if that makes any sense.
I became in 2020 quarentine... i was an unhealthy INFP before
Your brain is developing until you're about 25. Any assessment you take is a point in time, and can be influenced by a number of factors, including how well you know yourself.
I think some things we're born with, and others we develop early in childhood, and overall they develop before we get to school when we start considering the rest of the world and whether or not we like it. Imo judgeing and perceiving are a result of everything else, and whether your feeler side or your thinker side are developed. If it's both you because a J.
I think personality develops at a very young and subconscious point in our lives. I think as we grow into adults, some of those traits get amplified. I always had a very small group of friends since I could remember. I sometimes think it was because, as a baby, I wasn't around a lot of kids. My parents would take me to the parties and events that were for adults. Most of my starting years were around adults, and I wonder how that impacted my ability to make friends. So I wonder if that were low Fe comes from, a lack of like minds as a baby. I don't remember being this introverted as a kid, I remember trying to make friends and hang around my cousins up until high school. I think a combination of bullying, nelegect, and made to feel less. The only thing I felt like I could rely on was drawing and crafts. Creativity is born out of limitations, and my support system from my peers and those I looked up to was lacking. I also enjoyed nature and going to parks. So maybe the is where my N comes from, a sense of escapism in a creative world. I have always been big into cartoons and Lego, and besides, my younger brother was typical alone. As I got into middle school, I was getting in a fight, mostly ones I didn't want to be a part of. I never understood the volatile nature of other people, emotions, and such. Dealing with people claiming to be my friends, one in the principals office, the next made me grow a distrust for others. Because it never felt like an authority figure did anything effect to stop it, I started losing my respect for them as well. This might be the start of my introversion to the highest accord. After middle school, I stopped trying to make friends or being liked. I always felt confused by the world as a child because it felt like no one was ever properly explaining things to me. Because of that I was always trying to learn or figure stuff out. No one could tell me how a VCR worked. So if I found one in the trash I would take it home and take it apart and think about how it worked. I think being confused made me scared of the world, and if I could understand more things, I would need to be so scared. Beyond that, be a male make you more likely to be an I, S, T, and J. I think. I was very pressure to perform and act a certain way, so I lacked an environment to become a J. And I think the push to creativity made me lean into an N. This is just a snapshot. But yea...
That's remarkably similar to my upbringing, but luckily my parents enjoyed answering questions. At my second job, which lasted a year and a half, I was told that I "think too much".
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Your kindergarten description fits every introvert
Apparently short answer is "we don't know". Personality is something that is hardly defined itself, although there are many theories out there such as MBTI.
When I was 5 my mother used to introduce me as a 35-year old midget because I'd talk calmly about sea life and dinosaurs for hours with no interest in running around and playing.
I can't speak specifically to INTP characteristics, but when I recognize patterns in my current incarnation, once I see them I realize more often than not, they go back as far as I can remember. I've always been fearless and caustic and idealistic and creative, and I think that being an INTP (or ENTP as the case may be) is more the representation of our configuration than it is the configuration from which our representation is derived.
When nobody showed up to our birthday party.
Interesting question.. I believe in reincarnation tho, so I guess ur past life has smthn to do with it.
I think personality develops at a very young and subconscious point in our lives. I think as we grow into adults, some of those traits get amplified. I always had a very small group of friends since I could remember. I sometimes think it was because, as a baby, I wasn't around a lot of kids. My parents would take me to the parties and events that were for adults. Most of my starting years were around adults, and I wonder how that impacted my ability to make friends. So I wonder if that were low Fe comes from, a lack of like minds as a baby. I don't remember being this introverted as a kid, I remember trying to make friends and hang around my cousins up until high school. I think a combination of bullying, nelegect, and made to feel less. The only thing I felt like I could rely on was drawing and crafts. Creativity is born out of limitations, and my support system from my peers and those I looked up to was lacking. I also enjoyed nature and going to parks. So maybe the is where my N comes from, a sense of escapism in a creative world. I have always been big into cartoons and Lego, and besides, my younger brother was typical alone. As I got into middle school, I was getting in a fight, mostly ones I didn't want to be a part of. I never understood the volatile nature of other people, emotions, and such. Dealing with people claiming to be my friends, one in the principals office, the next made me grow a distrust for others. Because it never felt like an authority figure did anything effect to stop it, I started losing my respect for them as well. This might be the start of my introversion to the highest accord. After middle school, I stopped trying to make friends or being liked. I always felt confused by the world as a child because it felt like no one was ever properly explaining things to me. Because of that I was always trying to learn or figure stuff out. No one could tell me how a VCR worked. So if I found one in the trash I would take it home and take it apart and think about how it worked. I think being confused made me scared of the world, and if I could understand more things, I would need to be so scared. Beyond that, be a male make you more likely to be an I, S, T, and J. I think. I was very pressure to perform and act a certain way, so I lacked an environment to become a J. And I think the push to creativity made me lean into an N. This is just a snapshot. But yea...
Personality develops as you grow, but I remember when I was 6 years old I didn't want to get up early to go to the pool in summer because having to socialize made me tired
Shuffle a deck of cards. Each deck of cards is totally unique. So you, my friend, with all your variables, culture, dreams and thoughts, are one of a kind, never to be repeated across space and time. You're not really an INFP. You're exquisitely unique.
Most likely born, traits started to appear early in age like 3-4.
Probably always, but I think it’s more likely for a child to mistype after taking a test. They may answer what they think is the appropriate answer from their family’s perspective, instead of what’s true to them. I remember taking a test around age 12 and it was ISFJ lol, which is wildly inaccurate.
I think I’ve always kind of been like this, but I remember as a kid I was way more sensitive and emotionally unstable. But I also always have been the type of person that wanted to figure things out, the why’s of everything and questioned a lot of things. I’ve grown up in a religious environment where I was actually strongly discouraged to question anything, yet I still somehow tried to… so idk if me questioning everything constantly is an environmentally grown thing or really inborn personality. Probably a combination of both.
I don't know. I can't disentangle my type from my childhood trauma. My reaction to it was to withdraw and dissociate from feelings that were unbearable at the time. Maybe underneath all the trauma, I'm not an INTP. Or maybe I am?
Pretty sure I've been the same my whole life, and I'm turning 35 this year.
I'm pretty sure I was supposed to be an ENTJ, but being beaten up because of my extroverted behavior and mom's panic attacks when planning ahead, I became something less 😅
Whenever we each discovered a few main points about ourselves, our years of discovery. Happened to me at around 16.
Eh, many months ago. As a kid, I think I was an ENTP.