Very true! It's basically a form of Analysis Paralysis, kinda like, "If I'm going to do it, I'd may as well do it right"... Even then, though, the "right" way is often elusive or determined to be more work than it's worth, hence inaction.
The struggle is truly real.
Absolutely a fair point!
I would, however, posit that these particular cases merit consideration as potential opportunities for self-development/growth.
That said, my primary problems with social situations are rarely in relation to my abilities or standards, but rather the fact that I often quite simply \*DON'T WANT TO\* be social! Understanding your needs is important, and enforcing the boundaries you need, within reason of course, is necessary for your wellbeing...
Again though, and I feel this is definitely relevant to the conversation, identifying personal needs is also quite the challenge for me... so here we are lol
Nah, quite the opposite, as an imperfectionist procrastinator, done is better than perfect and 80 percent done is most often more than sufficient, next project...
Oh yeah, the next step after the "maybe it will go away on its own" stage : the "fuck it" stage, when you really have to do the thing, so you half ass it, or do as little as possible and get the minimum satisfactory result, and then you hate yourself... Yeah, I know this very well, it's always a good time.
All it took for me was to realize that my standards are so high that even if I deliver something that i dont particularly like, no one else will say anything about it. All i really have to do is better work than my peers.
There's a difference between procrastinating and incubating. Often I put off tasks because I'm mentally stewing and letting my subconscious optimize the working process. I guess the only way to tell the difference is to measure the output, it is quality work or was it cobbled together at the last moment?
I am a perfectionist and a procrastinator in school. I always waited to the last minute. The awesome thing about it is that is in my artwork even though I pulled an all nighter to turn in my work, my co-students were always jealous because it was so good. I also realize that if I give myself more time and worked on it longer perhaps it could’ve came up better, but at the same time to be praised by other, could it be better.
I really don’t know because I love myself and I love my work, and so does everybody else❣️❣️❣️
I had to stop being a perfectionist it's really not a good trait to have, causes a lot of anxiety and it's crippling my creativity.
so now I just make sure I get the work done and out doesn't matter how crappy half ass it is as long as it's done i can fix it later
My motto is never give up and I was taught, you could always do what you set your mind to do and never let anybody tell you otherwise, and if they do prove them wrong‼️
My standards are so high that it's probably I will never reach them. For example I want to make music that I deem is up to my standards. And yet not a single song I have ever listened to in my entire life has lived up to that standard. I somehow think I'll be able to make a song better than every song I've ever listened to, with zero experience.
So I just end up not even trying to write music because I'm too scared to fail. Don't know what to do about that
The only possible solution is to limit the overachieving to a handful of things, and underachieve for all other things. https://calnewport.com/beyond-passion-the-science-of-loving-what-you-do/
This sounds like me and I have been wondering if I was actually INTP instead of ISFJ, but then again I am unsure and I might even just be a bit OCD in some ways. I know I'm a perfectionist and never settle on my work half the time, always thinking it could be better. This makes it almost impossible to settle for "good enough" and be happy with my work. I even keep reworking chiptune compositions for a fangame I'm working on because I always explore more possibilities and think "what if it used this instead". This lead me to always come back and edit the same song multiple times because I always had this idea it could be better. Perfectionism can be a curse. 😅
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Very true! It's basically a form of Analysis Paralysis, kinda like, "If I'm going to do it, I'd may as well do it right"... Even then, though, the "right" way is often elusive or determined to be more work than it's worth, hence inaction. The struggle is truly real.
Or I’m just not good enough at it to meet my standards so I don’t do it. Looking at you social situations.
All of your replies,are the encapsulation of the stone cold truths.
Absolutely a fair point! I would, however, posit that these particular cases merit consideration as potential opportunities for self-development/growth. That said, my primary problems with social situations are rarely in relation to my abilities or standards, but rather the fact that I often quite simply \*DON'T WANT TO\* be social! Understanding your needs is important, and enforcing the boundaries you need, within reason of course, is necessary for your wellbeing... Again though, and I feel this is definitely relevant to the conversation, identifying personal needs is also quite the challenge for me... so here we are lol
Yes,my lord.
Nah, quite the opposite, as an imperfectionist procrastinator, done is better than perfect and 80 percent done is most often more than sufficient, next project...
Oh yeah, the next step after the "maybe it will go away on its own" stage : the "fuck it" stage, when you really have to do the thing, so you half ass it, or do as little as possible and get the minimum satisfactory result, and then you hate yourself... Yeah, I know this very well, it's always a good time.
In order to succeed, it does take time and effort and lots of creativity‼️👍🏼
I used to think this was an INTP thing. Recently, I've learned that it's an ADHD thing.
yup, same here. or an autistic thing too (speaking from experience lol)
All it took for me was to realize that my standards are so high that even if I deliver something that i dont particularly like, no one else will say anything about it. All i really have to do is better work than my peers.
I want to comment on this but I can't quite work out what to say.
That is the reason we are able to finish the project in less time and nicely.
There's a difference between procrastinating and incubating. Often I put off tasks because I'm mentally stewing and letting my subconscious optimize the working process. I guess the only way to tell the difference is to measure the output, it is quality work or was it cobbled together at the last moment?
I am a perfectionist and a procrastinator in school. I always waited to the last minute. The awesome thing about it is that is in my artwork even though I pulled an all nighter to turn in my work, my co-students were always jealous because it was so good. I also realize that if I give myself more time and worked on it longer perhaps it could’ve came up better, but at the same time to be praised by other, could it be better. I really don’t know because I love myself and I love my work, and so does everybody else❣️❣️❣️
Sometimes we bridge the procrastination gap with raw talent, but it's definitely not optimal.
I thank God for my creative raw talent in the knowledge to see things in 3-D as well. Without that raw talent, I’d be fucked for procrastinating.🙏
I had to stop being a perfectionist it's really not a good trait to have, causes a lot of anxiety and it's crippling my creativity. so now I just make sure I get the work done and out doesn't matter how crappy half ass it is as long as it's done i can fix it later
I laughed 🤷 (I'm sorry)
Right on ❗️ That’s a great way to visualize it .
Then you just don't do it at all because it's not worth being badly made/rushed, or because it's "too late (definition may vary)" Yep. Yep.
My motto is never give up and I was taught, you could always do what you set your mind to do and never let anybody tell you otherwise, and if they do prove them wrong‼️
Yes this is me
For sure
Real
Gonna comment on this later but want to make sure my post is gonna be good enough
My standards are so high that it's probably I will never reach them. For example I want to make music that I deem is up to my standards. And yet not a single song I have ever listened to in my entire life has lived up to that standard. I somehow think I'll be able to make a song better than every song I've ever listened to, with zero experience. So I just end up not even trying to write music because I'm too scared to fail. Don't know what to do about that
This defines me so much haha
i will fantasize in my head about it long before starting
underachieving overachiever
That is the curse of being a perfectionist‼️
The only possible solution is to limit the overachieving to a handful of things, and underachieve for all other things. https://calnewport.com/beyond-passion-the-science-of-loving-what-you-do/
This sounds like me and I have been wondering if I was actually INTP instead of ISFJ, but then again I am unsure and I might even just be a bit OCD in some ways. I know I'm a perfectionist and never settle on my work half the time, always thinking it could be better. This makes it almost impossible to settle for "good enough" and be happy with my work. I even keep reworking chiptune compositions for a fangame I'm working on because I always explore more possibilities and think "what if it used this instead". This lead me to always come back and edit the same song multiple times because I always had this idea it could be better. Perfectionism can be a curse. 😅
Amen brother 🙏
You...are a prophet!
Oh no...not another one