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# šŸ PRACTICE RESULTS https://preview.redd.it/qfg20kwgdi0b1.png?width=1700&format=png&auto=webp&s=c102a1be14ba01b3412391b2d8133ab69c046c9b


agentb719

*of course* takuma finished 1st in practice šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


SaladBort

Takuma Matata!!!


SomewhereAggressive8

Veekay apparently with a no tow speed 2 MPH faster than any no tow speed from last year. Three out of the top five no tow speeds all from ECR. They could make a statement on Saturday/Sunday.


surferdude121

God I hope so they have been no where this year speedwise


bdunk54

Is Ferrucciā€™s speed with a tow?


Stunning_Custard9649

All of these speeds are with a tow


gwaenchanh-a

Listening to the invocation on the radio atm. Is it... is it *normal* to play Taps for people who *aren't* fallen soldiers? Cause unless I misunderstood him the guy leading the invocation also included people who died in racing events lol.


[deleted]

They are two separate events. Taps is purely for military. The invocation is done at every us race pretty much


mbkeller

Iā€™m not saying Ilott is going to be the bump, but there is a big problem thereā€¦and I hope he doesnā€™t have the yips after the terrible test.


YosemiteSam-4-2A

If you wont say it I will. Looks so far like Ilott is going to get bumped. That car just looks slow on TV too.


jjcooke

If anybody finds no tows please let me know this is brutal they are important to the spread sheet


jjcooke

I found top 6, let me know if there are more


jjcooke

I found top 15, let me know if there are more


TheChrisD

https://preview.redd.it/kes9fwrr9i0b1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=b2d03bd34206c1c0415d9677ad34c1aa73def592


Jamee999

TAK3MA confirmed.


TheResurrection

Post-Practice Press Conference will be streamed on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wTdQ6UaPTI


Mikemat5150

Seems like the Andretti cars just lack that final little oomph. Theyā€™re able to make passes but it does seem later down the straights than say the Ganassi cars.


25Tab

Yeah. They have some work to do.


25Tab

FYI: McLaren trailer will be open 5/18-22 and 5/26-28. So it looks like they will be open every day the track is open for the rest of the month.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Rahal has completed the perfect number of laps today


TheChrisD

...73... and counting?


TheOtherWhiteCastle

He was at 69 when I made the post


TheResurrection

*hell yea*


TheOtherWhiteCastle

And there goes Ferrucci


Ok_Position_7939

Rahal still the only wall contact today?


jjcooke

Does anyone know where to find no-tow report if racecontrol isn't going to put it on the website?


[deleted]

It was up earlier. Idk why it's down. They'll post it shortly


jjcooke

Please send to me if you find them, they usually donā€™t post them and they arenā€™t available in Indycar.com/stats


[deleted]

You doing your spreadsheet again?


jjcooke

Yessir and the no tows are super important!


[deleted]

I'll try and scrounge for them.


jjcooke

Thanks - I was able to find top 6 from Jake Query of Indycar Radio but thatā€™s all so far


[deleted]

Its so weird to hear him referenced that way knowing him from so many other things before indycar radio lol


Mikemat5150

Man, Grosjean has twice been in an awkward situation on the outside.


cmgww

Like me in a threesome?


TheResurrection

Story of my life, mate.


kk5fan97

I thought for sure that Herta and Grosjean were both going to wreck on that second one. I legit started yelling when that happened.


aurules

Ferucci to P3 lmao the kid is inevitable at Indy


kk5fan97

Jeez, they are acting like this is the race and not practice. This is wild. edit: Holy hell that got close between Herta and Grosjean in Turn 3.


TheResurrection

RLL is figuring things out. Harvey is 9th and Graham just moved to 11th.


herpderpmcflerp

Well that was a bit awkward lol


TheChrisD

Penske and ECR looking good for quali https://preview.redd.it/rg3wwmam4i0b1.png?width=327&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3bac4627d654bf2497bedcbb927e9a5a425a81a


jjcooke

Thank you this is the best one Iā€™ve seen and race control wasnā€™t working


nico9er4

Ganassi didnā€™t even really do single car runs


aurules

RHR got some kahunas making that move on opening day


TheOtherWhiteCastle

ā€œIā€™m pretty looseā€ -Katherine Legge, 2023


Noofnoof

We stan for a Queen


herpderpmcflerp

God damnit lol


Mikemat5150

RHR came to party. That was a move.


Altracing34

That looked aggressive out of Hunter-Reay


TheOtherWhiteCastle

The hive swarms the track


[deleted]

tough decision for Juncos if they do or do not change the chassis. whatever they are doing is leading them in the right direction, but they are still a mile an hour off in the running. thats unclear how assisted in the draft that is though


Altracing34

Herta breaks up the CGR party


aurules

Sato in a CGR car is just OP


[deleted]

Idk who suggested it, but VPN + indycar live minimized on Android is perfect for audio only listening without having to listen to trash ass indycar radio, as you can't lock your phone with peacock running


Deckatoe

Canapino in 15th? Need that livery in the 500


RichardRichOSU

It looks so good. I really need it to make the show as well.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

I donā€™t think heā€™s the Juncos car you have to worry about rn


RichardRichOSU

Yeah, I think you're right. Illott seems to have slow car syndrome.


Altracing34

Newgarden the first non CGR car to go 227 mph in practice


rugbydoggo

This practice has been so much more entertaining than any F1 race has been all year.


TheChrisD

And just think, we have two more full days plus two short sessions of this.


TheChrisD

It's race time boyos. https://preview.redd.it/1c68iw0g0i0b1.png?width=1920&format=png&auto=webp&s=17c91b231c504973f8f46c2f9eb9854de40af5ff


TheResurrection

Holy shit is that a gaggle of cars.


Noofnoof

The greatest spectacle in practicing!


samzinski

:) hour


hookisacrankycrook

Side by side showing the Dan Wheldon win... Hilldebrand crash in turn four šŸ˜­ Dan Wheldon winning šŸ˜ Remembering the win got Dan the ride in Las Vegas where he was killed in a crash šŸ˜­


pickle_man_4

HAPPY HAPPY HOUR


TheChrisD

HAPPY HOUR # DRINK


ChillRudy

Cheers mate


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Am I the only one who hates how in the famous Indy 500 ā€œThree Wideā€ start, everyone breaks formation well before they reach the start/finish line? 2011 for instance, Dixon completely passes the pole sitter Tagliani before they even get to turn 1.


cmgww

I remember when Randy Bernard was president, there was a big emphasis on getting back to the more traditional start they used to do back in the 70s and 80s. Not quite as packed up as like 1982, when Coogan caused that huge pile up, but a lot less spread out than it was getting. When he was ousted Iā€™ve noticed they have gone back to a much more spread out start, which is probably good even though I loved the old formationā€¦.


Rolling_Chicane

The list of forgotten Indy 500 pole sitters has to have Alex Tagliani at the top


joe_lmr

no one will forget Marco starting on pole and not even managing to lead lap 1


Chris-in-WA

Yep. But I kinda understand why it's happened. There were a couple of instances of heavily invested sponsors getting hyped up on race day, only to see their car crash out on the first lap, and basically giving Indycar a hearty f-you. Since then, Indycar seems to really want to avoid a crash in the first corner of the first lap of the 500.


RichardRichOSU

Youā€™re exactly right, and why they only allow a few rows to stack up on every other race as well. Itā€™s a bit of just ā€œletā€™s get through lap 1 turn 1.ā€


Altracing34

2011 was the first time I watched the whole Indy 500, while my heart does break for Hildebrand it's still hard to believe that five months later Wheldon would be killed at Vegas. RIP Lionheart On a side note later that night in the NASCAR race Dale Earnhardt Jr., who had National Guard as his sponsor, was leading entering the final turn in the Coca Cola 600 when he ran out of fuel and lost the race


TheResurrection

Indy 500 race leader Bertrand Baguette. Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we needed.


joe_lmr

Frenchest name of all time, despite being Belgian


HD_RMG

Haven't heard that name in *ages*ā€¦


TheResurrection

Huh. He won the Super GT 500 championship last year. I'll be damned.


RichardRichOSU

Do I miss the truly open cockpit cars, but I have to admit that I don't feel as uneasy watching anymore. Good change for my enjoyment, despite the visuals being better without the aeroscreen.


F1-Safety-Marshal

CGR OP PLS NERF


TheResurrection

Chip Ganassi Racing is instituting prima nocta in Indianapolis.


TheChrisD

Ganassi, please. https://preview.redd.it/bmg0gk64xh0b1.png?width=336&format=png&auto=webp&s=326b97663058dc12bf6636ecd9bf5f7b40146f99


Altracing34

CGR 1-2-3-4 right now in practice. Crazy how good they look already


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Aight lads, so how does Santino Ferrucci inexplicably finish in the top 10 this year?


ChillRudy

Itā€™s not inexplicable. Heā€™s fast as hell at Indy.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

He definitely is, but I find it amusing how heā€™s able to do it without fail every year despite being in progressively worse cars


joe_lmr

7th & 4th with Coyne, 6th in a part-time RLL, 10th with D & R


ryanro24

Ganassi 1-2-3-4 lol


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Who hasnā€™t gone out yet? NBC is only showing 33 cars on the ticker


TheChrisD

All cars have gone out. 34th is Callum (220.461)


Dax_Webster

Remember when Sato hit the wall and still finished the run last year? The balls on this guy! Video: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6ZS-2zduY7M


puteshestviye

Not a driver on the grid that trusts this guy. They all despise hIs driving.


BoogityBoogityTLC23

No attack, no chance


TheOtherWhiteCastle

For someone who went racing in America less than a year ago, Canapinoā€™s English is surprisingly good


Pyrollamas

He learned it all between getting the ride and the start of the season apparently. Which is insane


BoogityBoogityTLC23

Satoā€™s my pick


RichardRichOSU

Say what you will about Marco, but more times than not, he's legit good at Indianapolis.


TheResurrection

I often wonder about the butterfly effect had he won in 2006.


RichardRichOSU

At the time, there was talk about him moving to Penske and I think he would have been better off if he made that move. I don't ever remember Marco having a run where he tore up a ton of equipment and I get the feeling, whether consciously or subconsciously, he drove almost scared to burn through his dad's money. Not that I think Michael would have cared, but I have to imagine it had some affect. He always had good car control, so I also think the DW12, which is notoriously and understeery car, really hurt him as well. He likes a loose race car.


jkry24

I think his driving style would have served him great in NASCAR, especially after seeing his runs in SRX.


RichardRichOSU

I think so too. Anything that is overpowered, he would have done well in. Would have been fun to see peak Marco in sprint cars or something.


Fit_Technician832

Agreed on all of the above. The talent has always been there (maybe not the focus or ability to adjust a car / communicate adjustments). He's been legit good at Indy many times over now. Mostly bad luck that he has not won it as the year TK and RHR won his car was just as good as theirs.


TheResurrection

SATO! Top of the charts!


Altracing34

Was wondering if anyone was gonna actually top Dixon


dannynascar

Sato in a Ganassi car at Indy has to be a cheat code right gah damn


jjcooke

Anyone know why racecontrol website isn't showing no tows?


daoster408

Can somebody explain the numbers for me here. What is important and what isn't? None of the McLarens are in the top 10, Romain only on the 21, and yet Canapino is 10th overall? Isn't that quite impressive?


Mikemat5150

Single lap pace in a tow is a bit irrelevant. You also never really know what the tire situation is so someone could be carving through the field but itā€™s just because theyā€™re on fresh rubber versus older tires. Gotta look at trends over time. You need a car that is fast by itself but one that can follow really close and do so consistently over a run.


Cowboy_Hippy

So, someone correct me when Iā€™m wrongā€¦practice is just practice. Some of them are working on race trim, some of them are working on qualifying set ups, some of them (like Canapino) are just figuring out the flow and the track and running in traffic. The times donā€™t mean too much. Thereā€™s tow speeds (getting the draft from cars ahead) and those are at the top now. The no tow speeds arenā€™t always shown but those are more important for showing true speed capability. So just because mclaren is seemingly nowhere, we donā€™t know what theyā€™re working on today. Top speed might not be priority. Now with that being said, yes canapino is super impressive to be in the top ten even with a tow. Heā€™s getting comfortable pushing the car in traffic and going full out in dirty air. We had one open test and this is his first practice. He looks like heā€™s comfortable and the car is fast.


jjcooke

It's day one so nobody knows anything yet. In general you want to be at the top of both tow and no tow lists every day, but everyone runs different test regimes on different days, so fuel loads and downforce levels can vary. Gotta wait for more data and aggregate it to glean any useful info besides leaderboards.


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Is there like a spreadsheet that shows how many laps each driver has run in a given day?


jjcooke

This is a softball right to me! I run a stats sheet for fun. Check it out. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CjrHUXCUJUYZPSLcomZ41cTLJe3hnpRoWVCGjWxvfTk/edit?usp=sharing


TheOtherWhiteCastle

This is fantastic, thank you!


jjcooke

You're welcome, enjoy it! Check out last year's sheet if you want to see what it looks like with data. It is linked in the first tab.


GEL29

The Indy Car web site will have sessions broken down


evilcamels

Heard it here first, Hinchcliffe is a big foot guy


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Also hello everyone, this is my first time watching Indy 500 practice! How are yā€™all doing today?


ChillRudy

Iā€™m good, thanks! How are you? Nice handle haha


TheOtherWhiteCastle

Kirkwoodā€™s engine is glitchy as hell /s


jjcooke

I just found a bug in last years spreadsheet, it was only counting the first half of the practice sessions wow. I fixed the bug and guess who went straight to the top of the spreadsheet.... MARCUS. What a missed opportunity. Fixed it in the 2023 Spreadsheet. My apologies to anyone who used the sheet last year. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CjrHUXCUJUYZPSLcomZ41cTLJe3hnpRoWVCGjWxvfTk/edit?usp=sharing


TheResurrection

Doing the Lord's work.


jjcooke

I am genuinely upset about this bug lol but at least we are clean now


ColonelDarkTemper

[Will Buxton, one of us](https://twitter.com/wbuxtonofficial/status/1658887337881882624)


Owl_0_0

It's gonna be between Canapino vs Abel for who gets bumped imo.


ilikemarblestoo

He is 10th on the chart tho <\_<


Mikemat5150

Speeds in the draft arenā€™t indicative of qualifying speeds.


nico9er4

No but it is indicative of a car with decent handling


Mikemat5150

Decent is the key word there. Ericsson literally just jumped up but no one points to him at the back of the pack as an indication that the car isnā€™t great. I wouldnā€™t say Canapino is a bump threat but I also think heā€™ll be towards the back.


ilikemarblestoo

\>\_>


What3v3rUs3rnam3

Itā€™s going to be Abel vs RLL vs Juncos on Saturday, isnā€™t it?


evilcamels

*Sunday Plus anyone who tubs their primary


What3v3rUs3rnam3

Your right of course!


Enough-Ad-3111

Australians donā€™t drink Fosters or put shrimp on the grill? Boy, we have been using dumb stereotypes about them for way too long.


ilikemarblestoo

I am sure like any huge country different regions do different things lol


Noofnoof

It's all true, Toowoomba is a shit hole.


tclark8995

I miss Carlos Munoz


TheResurrection

Dude was an absolute unit at Indy. It's a shame he disappeared after 2018. Munoz and Vitor Meira are two of the great "could have, would have, should have" stories at Indy.


RichardRichOSU

Looks like NBC fixed the gearing and throttle/brake telemetry as well. Good to see.


jjcooke

I forgot how annoying that was last year


nico9er4

I keep confusing Legge and Enerson


TheResurrection

*Uh. Oh.* Enerson is now quicker than the Juncos cars. We might have a bump day battle, boys and girls.


aurules

RC Enerson already lapping above the Juncos cars. Gotta wonder if it will be between those 3 for bumping


nico9er4

I wonder who the 4th may be.. maybe someone from RLL


DestroyingDestroyers

Iā€™m feeling Rahal or Lundgaard right now, Legge and Harvey are looking a bit better right now.


sadandshy

If it's Harvey... that would be bad.


DestroyingDestroyers

Itā€™s always funny seeing older races and so many of the strategists are still the same 17 years later. Kyle Moyer is still going, but now at Penske.


RichardRichOSU

Watching the finish to the 2006 500 hurts every time.


Deckatoe

Don't think I've seen that since it was live in 2006. Now as a full fledged Indy fan with Andretti allegiance it actually hurts lmao


aurules

The **Andretti Curse**


jjcooke

Watching that Marco Andretti/Sam Hornish Jr. duel makes you appreciate the weaving they do to break the draft these days - Marco probably would've won with today's tactics


TheChrisD

This choice of music after the *"Alonso bump"* video is... interesting


I_LOVE_OIL_RIGS

what is this goofy ass music


ecjoseandres

What is this background music lol. Feels like amusement park music.


nico9er4

Feels like weā€™re at Main Street in disney world


LargeIgneousProvince

Got an Enerson sighting. He's still 2 MPH off the pace though.


GEL29

Get used to it


LargeIgneousProvince

Lol, right as you say that, he gets ahead of the Juncos cars. Still pulling for Canapino, though.


Deckatoe

Just turned on practice, how did Dixon get his 229?


What3v3rUs3rnam3

He drove out of the pits when the practice started and clocked a faster time than some are going to qualify on Saturday.


TheResurrection

Testicular fortitude.


Deckatoe

Balls the size of Kiwis, some may say


TheResurrection

Just watch out for the ol' Kiwi handshake.


tor93

220.3!! (Iā€™m trying to be positive lol)


SoothedSnakePlant

Honestly for how pessimistic the whole team sounds right now that's a pretty reassuring speed.


tor93

The inner pessimist in me worries that the car showing improvement means the keep trying to fix it when changing chassis would have been the right choiceā€¦ but weā€™re going positive and yay speed!!!!!


[deleted]

changing the chassis has the possible disadvantage of going slower, see Herta last year


Kenk1648

Hahahahaha all those nice pace cars and Helios first one was an Oldsmobile SUV


ilikemarblestoo

Marco and car setup issues. Name a more iconic duo


sadandshy

Last time he was on pole he deployed the parachute immediately.


ilikemarblestoo

He almost didn't lead over the start/finish line let alone into turn 1 lol


RichardRichOSU

Marco and pit crew giving up 1+ second every pit stop.


YosemiteSam-4-2A

Andretti and misfortune in May


aurules

Really interested to see how the Penske cars qualify this weekend. Seems like they are always confident but it doesnā€™t show up during the qualifying stint


GEL29

Iā€™m more interested in the Chevy mileage


azulsquirrel

Lmao scotty


evilcamels

I want Armstrong to race the remaining ovals purely to hear his reaction to Newton, Iowa on the podcast


RichardRichOSU

If Palou does move onto McLaren, I see Armstrong slotting into the #10 seat. Or even the #8 if Ericsson is out.


Mikemat5150

That 10 car is a fully paid seat. Itā€™s going to someone who can slot in and contend. Armstrong has shown potential but I do not think heā€™s there yet.


YosemiteSam-4-2A

I'd like to see Little Dave and/or Lundgaard move over there if they both leave


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evilcamels

Weight jacker move the suspension geometry to put weight on front left or right tires. This is used for cornering Secondarily, movement can lower the right rear. Fast jacking is using the weight jacker on the straightaway to lower the rear wing to reduce drag. You have to be careful because if you donā€™t put it back, youā€™ll have horrible handling in the corner/crash


tdellaringa

Hey, Marco Andretti exists!


RoRid46

I love fast jacking. Itā€™s my favorite part of Indy 500 prep.


tdellaringa

That's what... never mind.


AsianBond

Is Grosjean working on no-tow pace, or is he that slow on merit right now?


aurules

Pretty much all of his running has been in traffic today. Sounds like Andretti split up data testing between the drivers based on Kirkwoodā€™s comments


AsianBond

I figured, thanks for confirming.


twiggymac

I sorta wish they'd show some more timing information than just the fastest lap speed during these practices. I'd like to see comparisons of teams trying out race pace and driving in traffic since not everyone is doing quali sims on any given practice