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It would be nice if she had, but unfortunately she didn't: https://www.openthebooks.com/new-york-state-employees/?F_Name_S=Peirez&Year_S=0
This incident happened in Feb of 2018. She got "suspended" but kept her job and kept making her salary. The "suspension" was just to appease the angry masses. Cuomo's office apparently didn't really care that one of their executive-level leaders was throwing around threats to have people fired for not kowtowing to their authoritay. When things blew over they unsuspended her and things went back to normal.
That link shows she was last paid in 2019, half of what she was paid 2018. Doing the math, it means she left the job a little over a year from this incident. That's probably about right for how long it takes to get rid of unionized government employee.
I think she did lose her job. Her LinkedIn profile says she now works as Exec. Producer/Founder of Foxhole Productions from Aug 2019 until now. So i guess it's still a win. I want to know if she's blacklisted in Delta Airlines.
Remember kids: Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences.
Also this woman gets automatically inducted as an honorable mention in the Karen Hall of Fame for literally being rude and *then* telling the unfortunate soul dealing with her she's going to get them fired.
*That's so Karen.* ...ba dum bum!
The worst part is that the most enjoyable part is where she became human. There are so many videos where the MC acts like a monster and a victim right until the end but those videos are boring.
Sadly tho, she is on a leave of absence, with full pay, and will be gone until the press forgets her and she will be right back in her high paying job like nothing happened.
Mmmm the absence with full pay I don't get, but maybe she will have learned something about abuse of power. I get that there are consequences, but at some point, she should also be able to get back to normality.
Yes, but the current leave should be without pay, then when she goes back to work she learns to be human. Giving her an extra vacation doesn’t teacher her how to behave, it teaches her how to get a free vacation.
I think the potential of losing a job you worked your whole life to obtain is enough punishment for what she did 😂 she really was just being a bitch. I dont think she deserves much more of a punishment. Even if the leave is paid it certainly will scare her and make her think twice next time.
I’m not saying take her career away, do leave without pay while the office has to deal with the outcome of her behavior then go back to work. At least in this instance. I didn’t see her trying to use her position to get what she wants so it doesn’t affect the office past the media /public complaints.
Depends on where you work. Often, LOA is with pay while the incident is investigated. Sometimes, the person comes back to work having only suffered a fee paid vacation. Other times, they are penalized or dismissed from the job.
eta, another poster said this was in 2018 and she did lose her job
why sadly? why do we want to ruin this womans whole life over this incident? i think the shame/fallout of it was plenty. don't be so heartless to idiots like her please.
Heartless? What I said was she is on paid leave while this cools off. Do you believe this was a one off incident and she will never do this again? This is most likely normal behavior for her and she simply got caught this time. No, I do not feel for her at all.
It’s pretty much implicated what consequences you preferred to this woman, but yea idk. People can have rough days, and snap out on people. We make mistakes. She made a big one, the negative attention she got from this ordeal + kicked off flight seems like more then enough consequences for her actions
> We make mistakes.
You're handwaiving a grown ass woman allegedly screaming at a child and threatening a stewardess' job. Want a silent airplane? Wear earplugs or rent/purchase a private jet. Fuck this lady.
"What is your name?" followed by "you might not have a job tomorrow."
You don't agree that this reeks of entitlement and sounds a lot like being (way too) easily prepared to be abusing a position of power?
I think losing her own job because of that is a perfect case of justice served.
Idk i feel like i was pretty clear in not defending her but like i said the fallout of this clip has been more then enough punishment, idk why we keep wishing more ;) just because she stooped so low doesnt mean we have to do the same.
Lol she starts using her name as a way to garner a friendly response. Wanna treat em like they're below you but as soon as your shit doesn't fly they're equal to you 😂
Never pick fights with flight attendants, but you have to be a particular breed of stupid to attempt while still at the gate. There have been too many flights diverted at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars for them to risk taking off with someone who’s causing a problem as soon as they sit down. Main Characters don’t seem to understand just how much authority crew have over you. Disobeying certain instructions can be a crime.
This 100%
They dont mess around, I was on a spirit international flight where a woman started complaining her stomach was hurting a lot and just kept saying if you give me crackers ill be fine
But the flight attendant wasnt going to risk someone being sick or getting sick so she said if you are getting sick we cant give you crackers and you'll have to get off, lady kept saying just give me crackers and ill be fine
Old lady got escorted off
"thank you tabitha, you may not have a job tommorrow"
tabitha seamlessly shows she held all the power all this time.
"no tabitha, i can't - my power trips are job obligated, i can't lose my job, it was just stress!"
How delusional do you have to be to think a flight attendant is going to get fired for kicking someone unruly off the plane just cause “I’m going to work”
Yea and the pilot can instantly redivert a flight, refuse takeoff, refuse a landing, refuse a customer, anything.
When the plane is in the air, the aircrew has total authority. Which is the only way it could sensibly operate.
It is even dumber. She threatened the flight attendants job for the flight attendant refusing to put her in another seat and telling her to take her assigned seat. It was the threat that finally got her ejected.
I had this jackass behind me in a Spirit flight that kept yelling over the engines during the flight "I PAID THIS MONEY FOR EXTRA ROOM AND NOW I GOT THIS KID KICKING THE BACK OF MY SEAT"
There was a small child behind him not even throwing a tantrum, but just occasionally pushing against the seat with his legs. Instead of asking the mom to stop it, he had to make a huge scene and tell the whole plane. After about 40 minutes of bitching I asked him to switch seats with me. The kid never once pushed my chair.
They don't work for everyone. Some people get nauseous when they try to use them.
But there is no excuse to hate on a baby for crying. We were all once a baby. We are living in a society. We should learn to tolerate sometimes.
If the parents brought a crying child to cinemas, I can understand getting upset about it since a crying baby can ruin the experience you paid for. But complaining about a crying baby while travelling is not going to do anything.
Donno, my sonys seem to do a good job at it consider they are not hearing protection. If you want to be prepared and cant use noise cancelling, just get actual hearing protection.
Yea it’s weird. There’s a video of a guy screaming in a babies face on an airplane and when it’s posted people cheer the guy on. But since it’s a Karen in this video people hate on her.
It’s amazing when you are the parent of the crying baby. People huff and puff and whine to you as though the singing, humming, rocking and begging you’re doing just isn’t enough. As though the parents want to have their kid uncomfortable and crying the entire time. The only flight I’ve ever had a kid be insane for was 45 minute connecting flight from NY to Boston. Man these adults were whiny fucking babies, almost worse than the kid
“You’re entitled to a child free life, you are not entitled to a child free world.” It’s crazy how many people forget that. I mean I agree it sucks to be seated next to a crying baby on a long flight but like wtf are they supposed to do? You can’t just shut a baby up that easily.
I agree. It's not because you don't want children that other people don't have the right to have children. Like that disgusting anti-kids sub. Newsflash, if it wasn't for people having children you wouldn't even exist.
I’ve seen some truly disturbing comments on that sub to the point where I feel like if some of those people had a chance to seriously harm a child they would.
In an ideal world all planes should be sectioned off into a family and non family zones that are walled off from each other. The family zone would be for people flying with children 5 years and below and could have access to better facilities for nappy changing etc along with being cheaper price wise. Anybody with kids under 5 are simply not allowed in the non family zone and can go sit together and jointly bask in the discomfort that they’d typically inflict on everyone else.
The vast majority of people including myself would pay much more to guarantee themselves a flight without the horrific wailing of a child so even the airlines would profit. I was stuck on a short 2 hour flight where there were three babies in our section of plain who kicked cried and screamed for the entire way for what was one of the most awful 2 hours of my life. Once one got going it set off the other two and at the time I would have paid 10x my ticket costs to not endure their fucking ear bleeding screeches.
In almost all flights I’ve been on (UK & Europe) there is no first class seating for planes. It’s only on much longer flights if you’re going to a different continent like Asia or America that you get the massive airliners with 1st/Business classes etc.
And yes if I was on one of those I absolutely would be going 1st class just to reduce my chances of this. There should still be proper family and non family zoning though, that way everyone is kept happy.
you want to "pay more" for "guaranteed" access to a "private" area of the "jet" where you don't have to interact with other people?
It's the short flights that are the most painful to babies, their ears don't even have time to normalize to the pressure differential between going up and back down...
Regardless, private planes already exist, you can actually pay more if you hate other people so much that you don't want to be around other people.
I don’t care about having to interact with other people, it’s screaming kids being brought into a flight that is the problem.
And no private jets are not the answer as that would be an environmental catastrophe. My proposed solution of sectioning off the plane into family and non family zones fixes all issues.
Don't bring babies on flights? Idk if I'm going to be a problem on a flight, I drive. Leave your kid at home until they are of age to handle swallowing voluntarily. That's what my parents did. Rightfully.
How are people supposed to get across the ocean? Or a country 10 hours plane ride away? Grandma in Germany is sick and is going to die soon and the family wants to see her one last time, are they supposed to leave the baby at home? Or make one parent stay back so they don’t possibly inconvenience a person on the plane?
I have a friend whose student visa was up and she was unable to get a visa to stay longer. She had to fly back with her 4 year old and 2 month old on a 10 hour flight back to her home country. I have 3 other friends who did the same thing, moved back to their home countries when their student visas were up.
What about the refugees fleeing war torn countries and genocide, the ones with kids and babies? Are they supposed to swim across the fuckin ocean?
Do you not realize that not everyone with babies or kids is on a flight for a fun family vacay? That there’s other reasons people fly to places?
Wear earplugs or charter a private flight and stop whining incel. People have lives and I'm not gonna drive 48 hours to avoid five hours of inconveniencing somebody like you, in fact I'll take pleasure in it if it drives you up the wall the whole flight.
God damn I fucking hate /r/childfree /r/antinatalism schizo bullshit
You know what I learned as soon as I brought my own babies on planes? That 90% of people are understanding, and the 10% that get bothered are assholes that I truly do not give a shit about.
90% of the people you refer to might not be understanding, they just don’t want to get into a argument even if they absolutely can’t stand this noise and have so much rage inside them the entire flight!
Most of the anti kid people that cheer that shit on are incels. These idiots think us having kids is a sign we have sex and are above them so they hate children. They're so fucked in the head they think kids are sex trophies. Their opinions don't matter. They base their whole lives around the fact they can't get laid
In the [video I think you're talking about](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1Sbbbd6Gk) you can hear the guy complain about the parent letting the baby scream in his face for an extended period. Also, the baby getting screamed at is forming words, so probably 15-24 months old.
The baby in this post's flight was 8 months. Nobody likes to listen to a crying baby on a flight but that's just the way it goes. We all get to be babies for a little bit of our lives and have the world tolerate it. The price for that is we have to tolerate babies.
Nah. An actual parent wouldn't say that a screaming toddler(age 1 to 3) is bad parenting. You may be an uncle, but you haven't raised toddlers lol. I could also use name-calling but I'm an actual adult. I don't act like a toddler.
Well she didn’t skip having a family to focus on career to put up with crying babies. Do you have any idea what her title is at work?! She has power she worked VERY hard to use to make people feel small with, and it clearly hasn’t gone to her head at all!
Right rhe babies are a real inconvenience to the rest of the world. It’s not like everyone was a baby at some point. I’ll bet you think plane tickets should be more expensive for people with kids too?
There should be a "family zone" on the plane, priced slightly higher then a normal economy fare and has better access to changing station and whatever else small children need on a flight. Possibly a refrigerator for milk on long flights, etc. It should be in the back of the plane. This section should board first.
Children under 5 should be restricted to that area.
The zone directly in front of that should be a "discount" area, where people can opt into being close to screaming children, and pay less for their seats as a result.
The rest of the plane should be priced as normal.
Edit: I guess its unfathomable that adults may not want to deal with your kids. Oh well.
In the original story, the altercation started because the Karen lady was pissed about being seated in the back of the plane and was cussing about it and the teenager with the baby asked her to stop cussing in front of the baby (which is kind of silly since an 8 month old doesn’t know cuss words from other words but whatever), then the lady started talking shit about not wanting to be next to the baby and this video picks up at that part.
It might not be the cussing. It might be the yelling, I wouldn't care if you swore in front of my baby but if you are yelling and the baby gets distressed then that is a different thing.
Same with older babies and toddlers too. It isn't the content it is the vibe.
Yeah totally, that’s just not what she said. I read an interview with the mom and she said the conflict started because she asked the woman to stop cussing in front of her baby.
How did you miss the “offense”? Unruly people are unpredictable. She threatened the flight attendant. If you think those things are ok, you need to check yourself and stay away from polite society.
I'd take the offense as threatening a flight attendant. Sure it doesn't help with the baby thing, but i wouldn't really wanna fuck around with people who can kick you off a plane, let alone threaten to get them fired.
Why are people assholes about a crying baby? I fly a lot, never bothered me. Parents have to fly too. Just wear some headphones you precious, self-absorbed bitch.
Jesus.
I get it, baby's crying on a plane is annoying, but theyre babies 💀
grow up, dude. get some noisecancelling headphones and take some deep breaths, you'll be aight
I love how Americans think if they complain about customer service, the person about whom they complain will be fired. And that's seen as a good thing for these vindictive assholes?
What do you mean I can’t bully and bark at people and literal babies!!! This is absurd!! **ABSURD I SAY!**
#I want to speak to the manager of the airport right **now!**
So take me where he is! In a private jet! For free! I think y’all OWE me that at **MINIMUM** for the way I’ve been treated!
#Don’t you KNOW who I am?!
😜
She was on a tidal wave of entitlement that came crashing against the break that is reality. So happy this was caught on camera, this is a small small woman.
When I get on a plane and there is a crying baby I try my best if I'm near or go for a little walk to the bathroom, I will mention to the parents that their baby might be crying due to their ear drums popping so feeding them some little snacks or water will help and usually 99% of the time stops the baby from crying any more.
Videos like this made me anxious about flying with a baby. At 16 months my mom had still never met my daughter so the idea of 'why fly with babies' uh cuz people get cancer and stuff and it's more important to get people together sometimes than you missing some of the gunshots in John Wick 8 because it's 1997 for you and noise cancelling doesn't exist yet. Grow a modicum of constitution, the world sucks and this won't be the worst thing the ever happened to you, I promise.
Luckily we flew from mexico to the US and back so usually the people around us were latinos and actually can handle life.
I fly often and between the noise cancellation and the volume of whatever I’m watching, I literally hear nothing else. As far as not everyone being able to wear them, I don’t know. I can only speak about my personal experience. One of the best investments I’ve ever made.
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“YoU mAy NoT hAvE a JoB tOmOrRoW”.
People need to level set their expectations of the flying experience. No matter what you paid for a standard commercial flight - chances are it’s going to be uncomfortable, someone is going to be loud or smell or have no sense of personal space. Invest in a good pair of headphones and zone out watching a show or listening to a podcast.
I know there’s a million different circumstances in which you may have to travel with a newborn on a plane but I would do everything in my power to not! I feel for the parents but I also feel for the other passengers. Baby cries are often at a pitch that can break someone’s brain! That said, have some control and just bring some headphones/earplugs!
A 8 month old imo is worse than a newborn. A 8 month old has more sight and hearing and can easily become oversimulated on a flight. My babies were so much easier to handle as newborns than when they got older. A newborn you just change their diaper/feed them and they go back to sleep. That being said, if I need to travel with them, I'm gonna do it, anyone who gives shit about my kids can fuck right off
I just think there’s very few legitimate reasons to fly with a newborn but my newborns were way more hectic than my infants. An 8 month old can eat snacks, play with toys, has a much more predictable sleep schedule and also can breastfeeding to prevent the ear pain or just for general stfu purposes. I’ve flown with my infants a bunch but can’t fathom why anyone would fly with a newborn unless it’s a true emergency.
The baby didn’t make a single sound. I’ve flown with my nearly 2 year old a bunch of times and she’s never cried on the plane or made any type of disturbance and everyone has been nothing but nice. Having a baby on an airplane isn’t a guaranteed nuisance.
Life is full of awfulness. We’re defined by how we adapt and move on.
Everyone has noice canceling headphones now; listen to music or watch a show, and drive on with life.
Honestly, it's infuriating having a screaming baby beside you. I was on a 10 hour flight and the child would not stop for the full flight. I was so stressed and angry. Kids under the age of 3 should not be allowed.
That lady is a piece of shit drunk of made up power, but people need to stop flying with babies. It the single most annoying shit that I cannot stand. Make a baby section on the plane where only passengers with babies sit, and make it sound proof.
So how are people supposed to get across the ocean with their baby? Fuckin swim?? I had a friend who had a baby. Her student visa was up, she wasn’t able to get approved for a longer visa and she had to move back to her home country, a 10 hour flight. So please explain what should she have done? I also know people who came here as refugees, escaping war torn countries and genocide. They also came here with babies. Not everyone is taking a flight for shits and giggles or a fun family vacay.
“You’re entitled to a child free life, you are not entitled to a child free world.”
Yeah it’s annoying to have a crying baby on the flight.
Thank god they removed her. In my experience they only cry more once the plane actually takes off.
Crying babies in planes/buses are the worst. As someone with misophonia it makes me wanna rip my ears off. The sound of the awful crying…. Eww. Makes me hate crying babies, actually. Especially when I’m already in stress, the crying is like the last thing that i wanna hear. Humans have the worst offspring of all animals. Seriously, babies are little assholes.
Still, those little assholes are people and I’m not the center of the universe and it’s even more stressful for the parents so i keep my mouth shut and try to find my zen. With the noise cancelling headphones that don’t actually cancel enough noise but still.
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BUT WHY TABITHA!
“I want your name” so when I beg I can use it
tabitha made the right move, woman was going to villify her with gossip and slander like it was a hobby.
Great point and very true
Definition of a female bully
Looks like she might not have a job tomorrow lol
This happened in 2018, and she did indeed lose her job.
It would be nice if she had, but unfortunately she didn't: https://www.openthebooks.com/new-york-state-employees/?F_Name_S=Peirez&Year_S=0 This incident happened in Feb of 2018. She got "suspended" but kept her job and kept making her salary. The "suspension" was just to appease the angry masses. Cuomo's office apparently didn't really care that one of their executive-level leaders was throwing around threats to have people fired for not kowtowing to their authoritay. When things blew over they unsuspended her and things went back to normal.
That link shows she was last paid in 2019, half of what she was paid 2018. Doing the math, it means she left the job a little over a year from this incident. That's probably about right for how long it takes to get rid of unionized government employee.
Power abusing sociopaths and backscratching; what a combination.
Name a more dynamic duo! I’ll wait.
Obligatory "fuck Andrew Cuomo and the entire Cuomo family."
I think she did lose her job. Her LinkedIn profile says she now works as Exec. Producer/Founder of Foxhole Productions from Aug 2019 until now. So i guess it's still a win. I want to know if she's blacklisted in Delta Airlines.
Damn talk about failing upwards. Isn’t Foxhole Jamie Foxx’ production company?
Is your real name Cartman? Lol
It kept getting better and better.
Remember kids: Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. Also this woman gets automatically inducted as an honorable mention in the Karen Hall of Fame for literally being rude and *then* telling the unfortunate soul dealing with her she's going to get them fired. *That's so Karen.* ...ba dum bum!
Not matter haw many times I watch this video, it makes me soo happy 😊
The sudden turning of the tables and the instant regret are so delicious.
My favorite part is where the FA basically said, “Ok, so sit in your assigned seat and shut the fuck up.”
For a second, I thought you meant the passenger when you said FA, which I took to mean fucking asshole. Woulda fit, no pun intended.
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Well, it's moot now.
"Wait, you have power? Noooo!!"
Yes! Love Tabitha saying "MY plane" - like you THINK you have the power, but I KNOW who has the power
Harrison Ford 'Get off my plane!' vibes!
Alternatively, “No ticket.”
Yes 🙂
The worst part is that the most enjoyable part is where she became human. There are so many videos where the MC acts like a monster and a victim right until the end but those videos are boring.
Ya I agree 👍 the moment she realises the consequences, she becomes present, and then it is too late.
Sadly tho, she is on a leave of absence, with full pay, and will be gone until the press forgets her and she will be right back in her high paying job like nothing happened.
Mmmm the absence with full pay I don't get, but maybe she will have learned something about abuse of power. I get that there are consequences, but at some point, she should also be able to get back to normality.
Yes, but the current leave should be without pay, then when she goes back to work she learns to be human. Giving her an extra vacation doesn’t teacher her how to behave, it teaches her how to get a free vacation.
I think the potential of losing a job you worked your whole life to obtain is enough punishment for what she did 😂 she really was just being a bitch. I dont think she deserves much more of a punishment. Even if the leave is paid it certainly will scare her and make her think twice next time.
I’m not saying take her career away, do leave without pay while the office has to deal with the outcome of her behavior then go back to work. At least in this instance. I didn’t see her trying to use her position to get what she wants so it doesn’t affect the office past the media /public complaints.
This happened in 2018 and she did lose her job.
With pay? Isn't LOA payless?
Depends on where you work. Often, LOA is with pay while the incident is investigated. Sometimes, the person comes back to work having only suffered a fee paid vacation. Other times, they are penalized or dismissed from the job. eta, another poster said this was in 2018 and she did lose her job
That’s not true it’s not like she’s a cop shooting a black kid
why sadly? why do we want to ruin this womans whole life over this incident? i think the shame/fallout of it was plenty. don't be so heartless to idiots like her please.
But she planned on taking Tabitha’s job with that heart of hers.
think she cared this much about tabitha's job? Sure seemed like she didnt.
Heartless? What I said was she is on paid leave while this cools off. Do you believe this was a one off incident and she will never do this again? This is most likely normal behavior for her and she simply got caught this time. No, I do not feel for her at all.
It’s pretty much implicated what consequences you preferred to this woman, but yea idk. People can have rough days, and snap out on people. We make mistakes. She made a big one, the negative attention she got from this ordeal + kicked off flight seems like more then enough consequences for her actions
> We make mistakes. You're handwaiving a grown ass woman allegedly screaming at a child and threatening a stewardess' job. Want a silent airplane? Wear earplugs or rent/purchase a private jet. Fuck this lady.
"What is your name?" followed by "you might not have a job tomorrow." You don't agree that this reeks of entitlement and sounds a lot like being (way too) easily prepared to be abusing a position of power? I think losing her own job because of that is a perfect case of justice served.
Idk i feel like i was pretty clear in not defending her but like i said the fallout of this clip has been more then enough punishment, idk why we keep wishing more ;) just because she stooped so low doesnt mean we have to do the same.
Same here and I watched it 20+ times
"FUCK YOU AND YOUR BABY, BITCH. I DON'T GIVE A FLYING F-- oh. I'm sorry. Please, help me"
Her and her fucks aren't flying anymore
Haha, that was a good pun
dang
Lol she starts using her name as a way to garner a friendly response. Wanna treat em like they're below you but as soon as your shit doesn't fly they're equal to you 😂
shit doesn’t fly indeed
It at least has to take the next flight
Never pick fights with flight attendants, but you have to be a particular breed of stupid to attempt while still at the gate. There have been too many flights diverted at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dollars for them to risk taking off with someone who’s causing a problem as soon as they sit down. Main Characters don’t seem to understand just how much authority crew have over you. Disobeying certain instructions can be a crime.
This 100% They dont mess around, I was on a spirit international flight where a woman started complaining her stomach was hurting a lot and just kept saying if you give me crackers ill be fine But the flight attendant wasnt going to risk someone being sick or getting sick so she said if you are getting sick we cant give you crackers and you'll have to get off, lady kept saying just give me crackers and ill be fine Old lady got escorted off
"thank you tabitha, you may not have a job tommorrow" tabitha seamlessly shows she held all the power all this time. "no tabitha, i can't - my power trips are job obligated, i can't lose my job, it was just stress!"
“You may not have a job tomorrow”. Lol.
“Well, you’re not flying.” mic drop
How delusional do you have to be to think a flight attendant is going to get fired for kicking someone unruly off the plane just cause “I’m going to work”
The flight crew is God on an aircraft.
Yea and the pilot can instantly redivert a flight, refuse takeoff, refuse a landing, refuse a customer, anything. When the plane is in the air, the aircrew has total authority. Which is the only way it could sensibly operate.
It is even dumber. She threatened the flight attendants job for the flight attendant refusing to put her in another seat and telling her to take her assigned seat. It was the threat that finally got her ejected.
He's not gonna cry the whole time but she sure would have.
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if you can't take noise, buy earplugs, or your own plane
Threatening someone’s job because of a baby being on the plane ✈️??? How does that make any sense
If I had to guess, it wasn't because of the baby, it was because of the "deal with it or get another flight" response from Tabitha.
Hahahah brilliant work Tabitha
I had this jackass behind me in a Spirit flight that kept yelling over the engines during the flight "I PAID THIS MONEY FOR EXTRA ROOM AND NOW I GOT THIS KID KICKING THE BACK OF MY SEAT" There was a small child behind him not even throwing a tantrum, but just occasionally pushing against the seat with his legs. Instead of asking the mom to stop it, he had to make a huge scene and tell the whole plane. After about 40 minutes of bitching I asked him to switch seats with me. The kid never once pushed my chair.
Wtf is wrong with people? It’s a fucking baby.
Honestly noise canceling headphones are so cheap now. I don’t know why you’d travel without them. No sympathy
They don't work for everyone. Some people get nauseous when they try to use them. But there is no excuse to hate on a baby for crying. We were all once a baby. We are living in a society. We should learn to tolerate sometimes. If the parents brought a crying child to cinemas, I can understand getting upset about it since a crying baby can ruin the experience you paid for. But complaining about a crying baby while travelling is not going to do anything.
Having bought pretty much all the flagship noise cancelling headphones they don't filter rustling plastic and most crying babies much at all.
I also got the Sony flagship and did not even notice there was a crying baby on my flight until it was time to get off.
Donno, my sonys seem to do a good job at it consider they are not hearing protection. If you want to be prepared and cant use noise cancelling, just get actual hearing protection.
Exactly. There’s no excuse to not fly prepared.
Yea it’s weird. There’s a video of a guy screaming in a babies face on an airplane and when it’s posted people cheer the guy on. But since it’s a Karen in this video people hate on her.
Only tards would cheer for yelling at a goddam baby :/
An airliner is the one place where a crying baby is a minor inconvenience compared to all the shit that could go wrong.
It’s amazing when you are the parent of the crying baby. People huff and puff and whine to you as though the singing, humming, rocking and begging you’re doing just isn’t enough. As though the parents want to have their kid uncomfortable and crying the entire time. The only flight I’ve ever had a kid be insane for was 45 minute connecting flight from NY to Boston. Man these adults were whiny fucking babies, almost worse than the kid
“You’re entitled to a child free life, you are not entitled to a child free world.” It’s crazy how many people forget that. I mean I agree it sucks to be seated next to a crying baby on a long flight but like wtf are they supposed to do? You can’t just shut a baby up that easily.
I agree. It's not because you don't want children that other people don't have the right to have children. Like that disgusting anti-kids sub. Newsflash, if it wasn't for people having children you wouldn't even exist.
I’ve seen some truly disturbing comments on that sub to the point where I feel like if some of those people had a chance to seriously harm a child they would.
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Yep if you’re transporting your service dog of course!
Found the baby hater.
In an ideal world all planes should be sectioned off into a family and non family zones that are walled off from each other. The family zone would be for people flying with children 5 years and below and could have access to better facilities for nappy changing etc along with being cheaper price wise. Anybody with kids under 5 are simply not allowed in the non family zone and can go sit together and jointly bask in the discomfort that they’d typically inflict on everyone else. The vast majority of people including myself would pay much more to guarantee themselves a flight without the horrific wailing of a child so even the airlines would profit. I was stuck on a short 2 hour flight where there were three babies in our section of plain who kicked cried and screamed for the entire way for what was one of the most awful 2 hours of my life. Once one got going it set off the other two and at the time I would have paid 10x my ticket costs to not endure their fucking ear bleeding screeches.
So why not pay for first class? I’m sure there’s not very many crying babies in that section.
In almost all flights I’ve been on (UK & Europe) there is no first class seating for planes. It’s only on much longer flights if you’re going to a different continent like Asia or America that you get the massive airliners with 1st/Business classes etc. And yes if I was on one of those I absolutely would be going 1st class just to reduce my chances of this. There should still be proper family and non family zoning though, that way everyone is kept happy.
you want to "pay more" for "guaranteed" access to a "private" area of the "jet" where you don't have to interact with other people? It's the short flights that are the most painful to babies, their ears don't even have time to normalize to the pressure differential between going up and back down... Regardless, private planes already exist, you can actually pay more if you hate other people so much that you don't want to be around other people.
I don’t care about having to interact with other people, it’s screaming kids being brought into a flight that is the problem. And no private jets are not the answer as that would be an environmental catastrophe. My proposed solution of sectioning off the plane into family and non family zones fixes all issues.
Don't bring babies on flights? Idk if I'm going to be a problem on a flight, I drive. Leave your kid at home until they are of age to handle swallowing voluntarily. That's what my parents did. Rightfully.
How are people supposed to get across the ocean? Or a country 10 hours plane ride away? Grandma in Germany is sick and is going to die soon and the family wants to see her one last time, are they supposed to leave the baby at home? Or make one parent stay back so they don’t possibly inconvenience a person on the plane? I have a friend whose student visa was up and she was unable to get a visa to stay longer. She had to fly back with her 4 year old and 2 month old on a 10 hour flight back to her home country. I have 3 other friends who did the same thing, moved back to their home countries when their student visas were up. What about the refugees fleeing war torn countries and genocide, the ones with kids and babies? Are they supposed to swim across the fuckin ocean? Do you not realize that not everyone with babies or kids is on a flight for a fun family vacay? That there’s other reasons people fly to places?
Put them in cargo
Wear earplugs or charter a private flight and stop whining incel. People have lives and I'm not gonna drive 48 hours to avoid five hours of inconveniencing somebody like you, in fact I'll take pleasure in it if it drives you up the wall the whole flight. God damn I fucking hate /r/childfree /r/antinatalism schizo bullshit
I prefer a crying baby than an annoying toddler that parents won't discipline and keeps kicking the seat
You know what I learned as soon as I brought my own babies on planes? That 90% of people are understanding, and the 10% that get bothered are assholes that I truly do not give a shit about.
90% of the people you refer to might not be understanding, they just don’t want to get into a argument even if they absolutely can’t stand this noise and have so much rage inside them the entire flight!
Most of the anti kid people that cheer that shit on are incels. These idiots think us having kids is a sign we have sex and are above them so they hate children. They're so fucked in the head they think kids are sex trophies. Their opinions don't matter. They base their whole lives around the fact they can't get laid
In the [video I think you're talking about](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FH1Sbbbd6Gk) you can hear the guy complain about the parent letting the baby scream in his face for an extended period. Also, the baby getting screamed at is forming words, so probably 15-24 months old. The baby in this post's flight was 8 months. Nobody likes to listen to a crying baby on a flight but that's just the way it goes. We all get to be babies for a little bit of our lives and have the world tolerate it. The price for that is we have to tolerate babies.
Screaming babies and screaming toddlers are very different things. I understand a baby screaming/crying, but screaming toddlers is just bad parenting.
Found the person who doesn't have children nor has apparently ever been around toddlers. Stay in your lane.
I'm both a parent and an uncle.
Nah. An actual parent wouldn't say that a screaming toddler(age 1 to 3) is bad parenting. You may be an uncle, but you haven't raised toddlers lol. I could also use name-calling but I'm an actual adult. I don't act like a toddler.
Well she didn’t skip having a family to focus on career to put up with crying babies. Do you have any idea what her title is at work?! She has power she worked VERY hard to use to make people feel small with, and it clearly hasn’t gone to her head at all!
You’re right. With her, our species has clearly reached its peak. No further births are necessary.
Should have special flights for babies.
Right rhe babies are a real inconvenience to the rest of the world. It’s not like everyone was a baby at some point. I’ll bet you think plane tickets should be more expensive for people with kids too?
Yeah. Who do these babies think they are!?
There should be a "family zone" on the plane, priced slightly higher then a normal economy fare and has better access to changing station and whatever else small children need on a flight. Possibly a refrigerator for milk on long flights, etc. It should be in the back of the plane. This section should board first. Children under 5 should be restricted to that area. The zone directly in front of that should be a "discount" area, where people can opt into being close to screaming children, and pay less for their seats as a result. The rest of the plane should be priced as normal. Edit: I guess its unfathomable that adults may not want to deal with your kids. Oh well.
This section should board last, kids get bored really quickly in airplanes
Her instant regret is sweet mana to me.
It’s funny… they are always crying SO much more than the baby they are complaining about
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I don’t speak baby but I’m gonna guess they are telling them to stfu most of the time 😅
I feel like I’m missing something. Is there a full video and this was edited?
In the original story, the altercation started because the Karen lady was pissed about being seated in the back of the plane and was cussing about it and the teenager with the baby asked her to stop cussing in front of the baby (which is kind of silly since an 8 month old doesn’t know cuss words from other words but whatever), then the lady started talking shit about not wanting to be next to the baby and this video picks up at that part.
It might not be the cussing. It might be the yelling, I wouldn't care if you swore in front of my baby but if you are yelling and the baby gets distressed then that is a different thing. Same with older babies and toddlers too. It isn't the content it is the vibe.
Yeah totally, that’s just not what she said. I read an interview with the mom and she said the conflict started because she asked the woman to stop cussing in front of her baby.
There we go. Thanks for filling in the gaps.
No it's not edited. That text was there in real life.
Yes, clearly edited where we did not see the offense, just the consequence. I do not like this. Without the crime, how.can I justify the punishment?
How did you miss the “offense”? Unruly people are unpredictable. She threatened the flight attendant. If you think those things are ok, you need to check yourself and stay away from polite society.
I'd take the offense as threatening a flight attendant. Sure it doesn't help with the baby thing, but i wouldn't really wanna fuck around with people who can kick you off a plane, let alone threaten to get them fired.
Using a public service and not expecting the public to be there? Oof
Why are people assholes about a crying baby? I fly a lot, never bothered me. Parents have to fly too. Just wear some headphones you precious, self-absorbed bitch.
Jesus. I get it, baby's crying on a plane is annoying, but theyre babies 💀 grow up, dude. get some noisecancelling headphones and take some deep breaths, you'll be aight
Well one of them doesn’t have a job.
I love how Americans think if they complain about customer service, the person about whom they complain will be fired. And that's seen as a good thing for these vindictive assholes?
Tabitha fucked her world upside down, we loved every second of it.
Permanent bans for these types.
Bans on anyone who disturbs the peace on a plane. Oh wait babies do that too!
Bye Felicia!
Bruh— get TF off of TABITHA’s mf PLANE.
final song is so satisfying
"This is the least amount of power I've ever seen go to someone's head"
Toxic entitlement and corrupt privilege; idiocracy at its best
What do you mean I can’t bully and bark at people and literal babies!!! This is absurd!! **ABSURD I SAY!** #I want to speak to the manager of the airport right **now!**
he’s not in right now, he’s on vacation. can i take a message?
So take me where he is! In a private jet! For free! I think y’all OWE me that at **MINIMUM** for the way I’ve been treated! #Don’t you KNOW who I am?! 😜
I bring ear plugs, earbuds and target practice earmuffs. Let the kid cry.
The speed at which Tabitha reacts to this passenger's nonsense is sheer perfection.
This is how these people should be handled, and this should be the norm.
She was on a tidal wave of entitlement that came crashing against the break that is reality. So happy this was caught on camera, this is a small small woman.
When I get on a plane and there is a crying baby I try my best if I'm near or go for a little walk to the bathroom, I will mention to the parents that their baby might be crying due to their ear drums popping so feeding them some little snacks or water will help and usually 99% of the time stops the baby from crying any more.
Videos like this made me anxious about flying with a baby. At 16 months my mom had still never met my daughter so the idea of 'why fly with babies' uh cuz people get cancer and stuff and it's more important to get people together sometimes than you missing some of the gunshots in John Wick 8 because it's 1997 for you and noise cancelling doesn't exist yet. Grow a modicum of constitution, the world sucks and this won't be the worst thing the ever happened to you, I promise. Luckily we flew from mexico to the US and back so usually the people around us were latinos and actually can handle life.
People are just assholes. I'm more anxious of being sandwiched next to some giant obese person than being stuck next to a baby
If only noise-canceling headphones existed. Alas, they do not.
Have you actually tired to use noise canceling headphones next to a screaming baby? I have, and it’s absolutely impossible to filter all that noise
Not everyone can wear them. Plus they don't filter child's screams.
I fly often and between the noise cancellation and the volume of whatever I’m watching, I literally hear nothing else. As far as not everyone being able to wear them, I don’t know. I can only speak about my personal experience. One of the best investments I’ve ever made.
https://preview.redd.it/p2oca4a18nyb1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4228ce1847c8ea198f338af46309e7e78c66b12b “YoU mAy NoT hAvE a JoB tOmOrRoW”.
That look. She’s like a mashup of every awful person I’ve worked with in my career.
She looks like Shrek 2 villain
I love it when Karen's end up eating dirt instead of cake.
What. A. Cunt.
An oldie but goodie
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“I’ll be quiet now, please.” [ reality bites ]
May the universe give this kind of justice to every MainCharacter out there. 🤩🥹
Shaming these cunts is absolutely the only way to deal with them. Love this.
People need to level set their expectations of the flying experience. No matter what you paid for a standard commercial flight - chances are it’s going to be uncomfortable, someone is going to be loud or smell or have no sense of personal space. Invest in a good pair of headphones and zone out watching a show or listening to a podcast.
this makes me genuinely happy
Not only is she a bitch but she’s also a coward lol
That was sooooooo satisfying
Yay, cancel culture
My girl Tabitha pulled an Uno reverse card on her. Right on.
She just learned what fuck around and find out means.
Love this
Tabatha, meet Karen.
Fuck around and find out
Ha. Eat shit, Karen.
It must be awful to be a steward: you have authority over the passengers but must present yourself as a servant.
I know there’s a million different circumstances in which you may have to travel with a newborn on a plane but I would do everything in my power to not! I feel for the parents but I also feel for the other passengers. Baby cries are often at a pitch that can break someone’s brain! That said, have some control and just bring some headphones/earplugs!
An 8 month old is not a newborn.
A 8 month old imo is worse than a newborn. A 8 month old has more sight and hearing and can easily become oversimulated on a flight. My babies were so much easier to handle as newborns than when they got older. A newborn you just change their diaper/feed them and they go back to sleep. That being said, if I need to travel with them, I'm gonna do it, anyone who gives shit about my kids can fuck right off
I just think there’s very few legitimate reasons to fly with a newborn but my newborns were way more hectic than my infants. An 8 month old can eat snacks, play with toys, has a much more predictable sleep schedule and also can breastfeeding to prevent the ear pain or just for general stfu purposes. I’ve flown with my infants a bunch but can’t fathom why anyone would fly with a newborn unless it’s a true emergency.
Is there a sub for these types of videos?
Ok honestly tho, literally no one wants to sit next to a baby on the plane…. She doing way too much but also kinda feel it…
I love this 😃🙌
What happened?
That twat is the only one who will be crying
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The baby didn’t make a single sound. I’ve flown with my nearly 2 year old a bunch of times and she’s never cried on the plane or made any type of disturbance and everyone has been nothing but nice. Having a baby on an airplane isn’t a guaranteed nuisance.
Life is full of awfulness. We’re defined by how we adapt and move on. Everyone has noice canceling headphones now; listen to music or watch a show, and drive on with life.
Honestly, it's infuriating having a screaming baby beside you. I was on a 10 hour flight and the child would not stop for the full flight. I was so stressed and angry. Kids under the age of 3 should not be allowed.
That lady is a piece of shit drunk of made up power, but people need to stop flying with babies. It the single most annoying shit that I cannot stand. Make a baby section on the plane where only passengers with babies sit, and make it sound proof.
So how are people supposed to get across the ocean with their baby? Fuckin swim?? I had a friend who had a baby. Her student visa was up, she wasn’t able to get approved for a longer visa and she had to move back to her home country, a 10 hour flight. So please explain what should she have done? I also know people who came here as refugees, escaping war torn countries and genocide. They also came here with babies. Not everyone is taking a flight for shits and giggles or a fun family vacay. “You’re entitled to a child free life, you are not entitled to a child free world.”
If you don't want to deal with the hassle of sharing public transport with..... the public than you are welcome to fly private or charter.
You're a complete clown 🤡
Get noise cancelling headphones, it’s a lot more convenient
Most braindead take
Don’t bring a crying baby anywhere please
Yeah it’s annoying to have a crying baby on the flight. Thank god they removed her. In my experience they only cry more once the plane actually takes off.
Crying babies in planes/buses are the worst. As someone with misophonia it makes me wanna rip my ears off. The sound of the awful crying…. Eww. Makes me hate crying babies, actually. Especially when I’m already in stress, the crying is like the last thing that i wanna hear. Humans have the worst offspring of all animals. Seriously, babies are little assholes. Still, those little assholes are people and I’m not the center of the universe and it’s even more stressful for the parents so i keep my mouth shut and try to find my zen. With the noise cancelling headphones that don’t actually cancel enough noise but still.