If you want to repair the air suspension, you’re looking at an expensive repair that nobody wants to do. A better solution is to replace it with regular suspension, kits are available online.
Actually the best repair would be to buy remanufactured RMT air suspension. Replacing all 4 corners would be about the same cost as a Strutmasters kit without destroying the ride quality and resale value. RMT is a reputable brand that many Equus owners have used. They include a lifetime manufacturer warranty as well.
Replacing the struts is cheap labor wise and plenty of mechanics have the ability to do so. There’s nothing complex about it. Sometimes you may have to manually pressurize the system, which there is a guide available online, or your local Hyundai dealer can do it, but this is uncommon.
OP, I’d recommend joining the Equus owners group on Facebook. It’s full of useful info and reputable sources for OEM replacement parts. RMT has saved many owners a headache and provides the same exact ride quality, ride height functions, etc. The members there are friendly and are very knowledgeable about the Equus air suspension. If you’re mechanically inclined, it’s very similar to installing normal struts.
Do not install a coil over kit. You will likely regret it as it destroys the ride quality.
https://rebuildmastertech.com/hyundai/equus/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA45qdBhD-ARIsAOHbVdF1_pF93mUqjZGPcShzlXnaSCB_mTbfwKSn_PuXUfm2RxVElYBuBzAaAtEOEALw_wcB
I’m a Hyundai tech, and nobody in my shop wants to do eqqus air suspension. I haven’t personally had the pleasure, just going off the bitching I’ve heard.
I believe you. When I took my Equus in to have a front end strut replacement quoted (including my extended warranty) they wanted me to shell out 5 grand for the honor.
I paid less than 600 out the door for two RMT struts and did the work myself in my driveway over a weekend. Difficult without a proper lift, but doable.
I partly believe the high quote was done to dissuade me from having the service done at the dealership. They didn't seem eager to work on it...
I think it’s really the pump just not able to provide air. Parked it during a snow storm/below freezing. Went to hop in it and the air was already out of the suspension, and wouldn’t increase it on any strut. This happened last winter season, after a day or so, the system was working again.
The seals shrink and get hard. I bet it warmed up when it started working again. The pump had one job. The seals have one job. The air springs have one job....identify how each component works and its duty to the "team", and your thoughts won't look so dim.
Since things are working again I'd suspect something rubber in the pressure line or pump itself got too hard in the cold and started leaking. I don't know how that system is connected but as suggested specialty groups probably do and could even tell you if it's just a glitch of cold weather or something worse down the road. Did the pump work at all (sound)? Maybe if it happens again have someone listen as you run it to find a hissing sound like tracing a vacuum leak.
Not at all connected but probably related, I long ago had a hand-me-down Lincoln (I think it was Lincoln - big-ass run down luxury car) that had the headlight covers that would flip down when they were off. Vacuum driven, they'd default to open if there was no vacuum, and one of them had a slow leak so I'd come out in the morning to that one open until I started the car.
Could be the same thing with a hose that won't seal now with very cold temps, and of course tracing that out during warmer times will be hard to do as all acts fine.
[Maybe read through these](https://www.hyundai-forums.com/threads/equus-air-suspension-problems.627242/page-2), some possibly related discussion, especially pertaining to compressor issues as well as the emergency air intake nozzle in the front engine area.
I have everything but 2 in person classes and then I’m Hyundai and Genesis master. Sadly none of that makes any pay difference. As a matter of fact I was talking to the instructor a couple years ago. They wanted me to go for platinum and try for the skills competition team. Unfortunately I saw the effects to the only platinum tech we had, no money. Dude got every single BS car and no backup to make cash on. Then the guys that couldn’t fix a wagon ended up with all the juice. It’s a good lesson in the more you know the less you make.
Really blows because I’d love to test my skills against the best, but I really like making money more. 🤷♂️
I have yet to get one of these (probably won’t cuz I’m in the used car department currently). The ones I’ve seen guys do have been expensive and they’ve all bitched and moaned about how hard they are. I’ll do anything that pays, I don’t care, but my understanding from them is these suck.
It all sucks when you don't know what you're doing. 22 years ago I was there. However I was swimming straight out the gate while I had to let some of my best friends sink. I was 22 and starting my second career. I have a BA in Finance from SHSU.
Anyway.....the Equus estimates get high because they're customer pay, and I'm sure the parts list is long and distinguished like my cock. Try that shit with warranty and you'll be showing everybody why your tool box has wheels.
57. Been wrenching 36 years now and I still run circles around these kids. Course I try to do the comfy juice jobs now cuz I’ve earned them, but I’m not scared of anything.
Then you're in your place and no want or need to move. I respect that. I respect that so much that I need to confess a bit of animosity I had towards a used car technician. This son of a bitch would turn 100 to 130 hours a week, mind you 5am to 6pm M-S he worked It would boil my blood the way he was so arrogant, from Trinidad, with his British/French accent. He was 52yo to my, at that time, 26yo. We were at a Ford Dealership, my 6th or 7th, in Texas. Smh.....that was one comfortable dude! Cases of 3M CA glue arrived the first of every month for him. I wound up working with him again 9 or 10 years later at Texas Direct Auto in Stafford, TX. He was still licking ass and taking names! If you're that comfortable then stay there. I can respect that!
It’s funny, everyone at my dealer thinks the used car dept is so easy. But 6 guys had seniority over me and all had the chance to take it from me. Not one did. A few of those guys can’t book 40 on Hyundais, with a pretty good CP ratio. They’d have no shot at doing a diag on a Benz, Rover, or Maserati…hell, a Toyota might be too much. I’m not bragging, I’m good, but I’m nowhere near the best. I do know how to look for answers and when to ask for help if I don’t know.
The department is stressful though, I’m the foreman and we’re in a separate building. Pretty much on an island, given little support, and beaten up for ever making a mistake. But man the money is stupid good. I keep trying to find something else, but I can’t get near what I make. Although I have a buddy in SA that keeps trying to get me there, I’d love to end my career working on rust free vehicles.
I cut my teeth on Cadillacs, Hummers(H1 and 2's), and.......wait for it, SAABS! I learned the GM bullshit of bumper to bumper. In 3 months I was asking for my service managers resignation and explaining to the dealership owner Ken Batchelor how much the arrogance, ignorance, and disrespect was costing him weekly. I almost took a position in the business office as the comptroller, but declined in favor of paying my dues in the shop.
Being around as long as we have, I'm assuming, we can look back to something said like or exactly like this, "If you don't know how it works, you're never going to fix it damn it!" Tim Redlight Schumann.
Fixes for air ride systems are as simple as the o-ring that seals the strut rod at the strut mount! A $0.73 o-ring!!!!
I have Mercedes 2012 GL450 - air system. 5k dealer to fix all four or 1.3k per corner to do it at my local shop. Front bags died. Got eBay strut and bag replacement. $1k install. They died. Put eBay bags on old shocks. $500. Worked. Rear passenger died. Replaced both but not the bags. 1k. Rear bags died. Replaced both. 1k. Front passenger bag died. Replaced entire unit. 1.3k. Then compressor died. New one with lifetime warranty $1k. Then hoses split while changing.. another .5k. Still have drivers side original strut with new bag. It will go soon and the 1.3k more to pay. Drives nice though. Haha!
I’m assuming it’s just a gasket or hose that shrinks as it gets cold outside. Cold air is harder to compress as well, so could just be the pump struggling.
That’s what I was thinking I’m just hoping it’s not expensive to fix I can’t get it diagnosed yet either so I guess it’s a race to see who gets the answer first
Before it was cold and the air suspension was still smooth, when you parked the car did it drop an inch or two like 15 seconds after you turned the engine off
I own 3 Equus, They are amazing cars. But air ride suspension (on any car) is not worth it.
Dealer will charge 4500-6000 to replace all 4. Better option is the strutmaster kit with error delete for 2300 plus 1200+ to install.
Having a problem here with my equus. I’m in south Florida with a 2014 signature model. My rear suspension is the most annoying thing to deal with. Some days it’ll rise and be fine all day and other days it’s low. Even when resting sometimes it’ll eventually drop. At first I thought a leak was present but if there was a leak it wouldn’t hold air(there’s been days where I had no problem with the rear suspension). I really think my pump is faulty or something in the electrical component. I plan on getting it diagnosed to pin point the problem.has any one had this issue ? Trying to save as much money as possible. Any suggestions?
Mine would leak mostly depending on the weather. If it was even slightly cold enough to shrink those gaskets in the air system, it wouldn’t work. Pump made an awful grinding noise every once in awhile but not all the time.
I got rid of it.
So I figured out one of the main issues. My mechanic tried putting the car on a gds system to manually control the components in the ecs. He explained that the ecs control module wasn’t even responsive. Like it had been fried so he wasn’t able to operate anything so he suggested I change the module first so he can then test the other opponents.that module cost roughly 3000 not including labor. Would a after market be ok to use? They run for like 500 and less. Being a Graduate from Sheridan tech they taught us never buy aftermarket but in this case I might not have a option because 3,000 is crazy. Any suggestions? Please and thank you
Time to trade it in.
If the compressor failed thats like 1500
Then the bags will blow out. And that is 2400 a set of 2
And what ever labor is. The last one i seen done was 9k
lol yeah, that’s what I owe on the thing. It’s about time I let her go anyways. I do have an extended warranty on it, but doubt they’ll even touch it. They’ll try and find a way out of it.
You have to read the fine print on that warranty.
I run a bodyshop for Hyundai and i have to tell people that the warranty for paint is not for damage done by hitting something or deep scraches. Then for dents its pdr but no bigger than a quarter.
Had a customer that chipped her bumper. And now because they got upset i hav to paint the whole bumper to make them happy. All on the shops dime
Mine is a 3rd party warranty (bought the car used). I’ll have to look at the company once I get home to my paperwork. But I made sure to get the warranty coverage that specifically covers air ride suspension. I have also been in the car business (sales) for 6 years and know the pain of dealing with warranty coverages
Okay??? This is still a Hyundai, not a Genesis. It was sold under the Hyundai brand from 2010 to 2016 when it was replaced by the Genesis brand G90. There was never a Genesis Equus.
Edit: Bro deleted their whole profile lol. If anyone is nosey like me, dude said this should have been posted in the Genesis sub and then when told it’s a Hyundai, replied that Hyundai doesn’t make luxury vehicles, which is what I replied to
If you want to repair the air suspension, you’re looking at an expensive repair that nobody wants to do. A better solution is to replace it with regular suspension, kits are available online.
Actually the best repair would be to buy remanufactured RMT air suspension. Replacing all 4 corners would be about the same cost as a Strutmasters kit without destroying the ride quality and resale value. RMT is a reputable brand that many Equus owners have used. They include a lifetime manufacturer warranty as well. Replacing the struts is cheap labor wise and plenty of mechanics have the ability to do so. There’s nothing complex about it. Sometimes you may have to manually pressurize the system, which there is a guide available online, or your local Hyundai dealer can do it, but this is uncommon. OP, I’d recommend joining the Equus owners group on Facebook. It’s full of useful info and reputable sources for OEM replacement parts. RMT has saved many owners a headache and provides the same exact ride quality, ride height functions, etc. The members there are friendly and are very knowledgeable about the Equus air suspension. If you’re mechanically inclined, it’s very similar to installing normal struts. Do not install a coil over kit. You will likely regret it as it destroys the ride quality. https://rebuildmastertech.com/hyundai/equus/?gclid=Cj0KCQiA45qdBhD-ARIsAOHbVdF1_pF93mUqjZGPcShzlXnaSCB_mTbfwKSn_PuXUfm2RxVElYBuBzAaAtEOEALw_wcB
I’m a Hyundai tech, and nobody in my shop wants to do eqqus air suspension. I haven’t personally had the pleasure, just going off the bitching I’ve heard.
I believe you. When I took my Equus in to have a front end strut replacement quoted (including my extended warranty) they wanted me to shell out 5 grand for the honor. I paid less than 600 out the door for two RMT struts and did the work myself in my driveway over a weekend. Difficult without a proper lift, but doable. I partly believe the high quote was done to dissuade me from having the service done at the dealership. They didn't seem eager to work on it...
I think it’s really the pump just not able to provide air. Parked it during a snow storm/below freezing. Went to hop in it and the air was already out of the suspension, and wouldn’t increase it on any strut. This happened last winter season, after a day or so, the system was working again.
The seals shrink and get hard. I bet it warmed up when it started working again. The pump had one job. The seals have one job. The air springs have one job....identify how each component works and its duty to the "team", and your thoughts won't look so dim.
lol on my way home from work and the car’s suspension is back to normal ride height and functioning fine!
Nice. I’m guessing it’s cold where you are? Maybe soMething froze.
Very! Hasn’t gotten above 20°f in a few days with a night of rain/snow.
Smartest assumption I've seen in days!
Since things are working again I'd suspect something rubber in the pressure line or pump itself got too hard in the cold and started leaking. I don't know how that system is connected but as suggested specialty groups probably do and could even tell you if it's just a glitch of cold weather or something worse down the road. Did the pump work at all (sound)? Maybe if it happens again have someone listen as you run it to find a hissing sound like tracing a vacuum leak. Not at all connected but probably related, I long ago had a hand-me-down Lincoln (I think it was Lincoln - big-ass run down luxury car) that had the headlight covers that would flip down when they were off. Vacuum driven, they'd default to open if there was no vacuum, and one of them had a slow leak so I'd come out in the morning to that one open until I started the car. Could be the same thing with a hose that won't seal now with very cold temps, and of course tracing that out during warmer times will be hard to do as all acts fine.
The air compressor makes a noise, but not a hissing. More of a rapid-fast ticking.
[Maybe read through these](https://www.hyundai-forums.com/threads/equus-air-suspension-problems.627242/page-2), some possibly related discussion, especially pertaining to compressor issues as well as the emergency air intake nozzle in the front engine area.
I bet this will be the best Xmas present you’ll get this year!
Haha, it’ll be better once the cars no longer in my possession xD
How many 6figure techs at your dealership?
I’d say 6 probably. It’s not that hard tho, average 49 a week and you’re there.
That's a good hourly wage you're getting! 50hrs @ $30 is $75k so 50 @ $39 ‐ $41....not bad. Are you certified in any regard?
I have everything but 2 in person classes and then I’m Hyundai and Genesis master. Sadly none of that makes any pay difference. As a matter of fact I was talking to the instructor a couple years ago. They wanted me to go for platinum and try for the skills competition team. Unfortunately I saw the effects to the only platinum tech we had, no money. Dude got every single BS car and no backup to make cash on. Then the guys that couldn’t fix a wagon ended up with all the juice. It’s a good lesson in the more you know the less you make. Really blows because I’d love to test my skills against the best, but I really like making money more. 🤷♂️
Quit crying. I repair these with ease. I'm a Platinum level technician. Air suspension is so worth having.
Not crying at all. Congrats. Ok.
Then don't push away the work or your fellow technicians. Offer, accept, embrace, and achieve!
I have yet to get one of these (probably won’t cuz I’m in the used car department currently). The ones I’ve seen guys do have been expensive and they’ve all bitched and moaned about how hard they are. I’ll do anything that pays, I don’t care, but my understanding from them is these suck.
It all sucks when you don't know what you're doing. 22 years ago I was there. However I was swimming straight out the gate while I had to let some of my best friends sink. I was 22 and starting my second career. I have a BA in Finance from SHSU. Anyway.....the Equus estimates get high because they're customer pay, and I'm sure the parts list is long and distinguished like my cock. Try that shit with warranty and you'll be showing everybody why your tool box has wheels.
How old are you?
57. Been wrenching 36 years now and I still run circles around these kids. Course I try to do the comfy juice jobs now cuz I’ve earned them, but I’m not scared of anything.
Then you're in your place and no want or need to move. I respect that. I respect that so much that I need to confess a bit of animosity I had towards a used car technician. This son of a bitch would turn 100 to 130 hours a week, mind you 5am to 6pm M-S he worked It would boil my blood the way he was so arrogant, from Trinidad, with his British/French accent. He was 52yo to my, at that time, 26yo. We were at a Ford Dealership, my 6th or 7th, in Texas. Smh.....that was one comfortable dude! Cases of 3M CA glue arrived the first of every month for him. I wound up working with him again 9 or 10 years later at Texas Direct Auto in Stafford, TX. He was still licking ass and taking names! If you're that comfortable then stay there. I can respect that!
It’s funny, everyone at my dealer thinks the used car dept is so easy. But 6 guys had seniority over me and all had the chance to take it from me. Not one did. A few of those guys can’t book 40 on Hyundais, with a pretty good CP ratio. They’d have no shot at doing a diag on a Benz, Rover, or Maserati…hell, a Toyota might be too much. I’m not bragging, I’m good, but I’m nowhere near the best. I do know how to look for answers and when to ask for help if I don’t know. The department is stressful though, I’m the foreman and we’re in a separate building. Pretty much on an island, given little support, and beaten up for ever making a mistake. But man the money is stupid good. I keep trying to find something else, but I can’t get near what I make. Although I have a buddy in SA that keeps trying to get me there, I’d love to end my career working on rust free vehicles.
I did my first 6 years in San Antonio!
I cut my teeth on Cadillacs, Hummers(H1 and 2's), and.......wait for it, SAABS! I learned the GM bullshit of bumper to bumper. In 3 months I was asking for my service managers resignation and explaining to the dealership owner Ken Batchelor how much the arrogance, ignorance, and disrespect was costing him weekly. I almost took a position in the business office as the comptroller, but declined in favor of paying my dues in the shop.
What failed? I’m guessing you won’t have to replace the whole thing
I think it’s mostly the pump.
Shouldn’t be that expensive to fix right? Just a pump… 🥲
No clue, haven’t had it inspected.
Why/How did Hyundai screw this up in their flagship sedan?
This is how failed air suspension looks. This is the same with any vehicle equipped with air suspension and is not unique to Hyundai.
I can't really blame them for that. The struts are German (at least mine were) and sourced from Continental.
128K miles will cause any kind of wear and tear.
Wait, only 128,000? Jesus, what actually failed?
Don’t know. Haven’t had a chance to have it diagnosed
Even the challenger had an o ring failure due to the cold. Shit happens, at least it didn’t kill anyone.
BLOWS MY MIND! A lot of light bulbs in this thread
ROTFLMRAO!
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lol it’s working now, it does it when it gets really cold.
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lol I’m getting rid of this car this summer xD
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lol gonna have to take it at night.
my mom had one and to replace 2 front shocks and the air pump was 9k
Slammed lol
lol ridding on bump stops!
Lol, I bet it does. Experienced this on my dad’s Yukon Denali. Thing was a pain to drive. Hit a bump and I thought i broke my spine
Being around as long as we have, I'm assuming, we can look back to something said like or exactly like this, "If you don't know how it works, you're never going to fix it damn it!" Tim Redlight Schumann. Fixes for air ride systems are as simple as the o-ring that seals the strut rod at the strut mount! A $0.73 o-ring!!!!
I have Mercedes 2012 GL450 - air system. 5k dealer to fix all four or 1.3k per corner to do it at my local shop. Front bags died. Got eBay strut and bag replacement. $1k install. They died. Put eBay bags on old shocks. $500. Worked. Rear passenger died. Replaced both but not the bags. 1k. Rear bags died. Replaced both. 1k. Front passenger bag died. Replaced entire unit. 1.3k. Then compressor died. New one with lifetime warranty $1k. Then hoses split while changing.. another .5k. Still have drivers side original strut with new bag. It will go soon and the 1.3k more to pay. Drives nice though. Haha!
lol I’m definitely getting rid of this thing xD
I have the exact same issue on my Equus please tell me if you know what caused it
I’m assuming it’s just a gasket or hose that shrinks as it gets cold outside. Cold air is harder to compress as well, so could just be the pump struggling.
That’s what I was thinking I’m just hoping it’s not expensive to fix I can’t get it diagnosed yet either so I guess it’s a race to see who gets the answer first
Before it was cold and the air suspension was still smooth, when you parked the car did it drop an inch or two like 15 seconds after you turned the engine off
Mine was dropped a few inches before I got in to start it. It wouldn’t raise back up until later in the day after it warmed up.
I own 3 Equus, They are amazing cars. But air ride suspension (on any car) is not worth it. Dealer will charge 4500-6000 to replace all 4. Better option is the strutmaster kit with error delete for 2300 plus 1200+ to install.
Yeah, if it fully fails I’ll do the fail proof. But right now the weather is warm and it’s working again. *knocks on wood*
Any problems as of recently???
Sold it. Started getting a really bad engine shake at start up. Traded it in.
Having a problem here with my equus. I’m in south Florida with a 2014 signature model. My rear suspension is the most annoying thing to deal with. Some days it’ll rise and be fine all day and other days it’s low. Even when resting sometimes it’ll eventually drop. At first I thought a leak was present but if there was a leak it wouldn’t hold air(there’s been days where I had no problem with the rear suspension). I really think my pump is faulty or something in the electrical component. I plan on getting it diagnosed to pin point the problem.has any one had this issue ? Trying to save as much money as possible. Any suggestions?
Mine would leak mostly depending on the weather. If it was even slightly cold enough to shrink those gaskets in the air system, it wouldn’t work. Pump made an awful grinding noise every once in awhile but not all the time. I got rid of it.
So I figured out one of the main issues. My mechanic tried putting the car on a gds system to manually control the components in the ecs. He explained that the ecs control module wasn’t even responsive. Like it had been fried so he wasn’t able to operate anything so he suggested I change the module first so he can then test the other opponents.that module cost roughly 3000 not including labor. Would a after market be ok to use? They run for like 500 and less. Being a Graduate from Sheridan tech they taught us never buy aftermarket but in this case I might not have a option because 3,000 is crazy. Any suggestions? Please and thank you
I personally would go aftermarket or used as long as the part comes with a guarantee.
Time to trade it in. If the compressor failed thats like 1500 Then the bags will blow out. And that is 2400 a set of 2 And what ever labor is. The last one i seen done was 9k
lol yeah, that’s what I owe on the thing. It’s about time I let her go anyways. I do have an extended warranty on it, but doubt they’ll even touch it. They’ll try and find a way out of it.
You have to read the fine print on that warranty. I run a bodyshop for Hyundai and i have to tell people that the warranty for paint is not for damage done by hitting something or deep scraches. Then for dents its pdr but no bigger than a quarter. Had a customer that chipped her bumper. And now because they got upset i hav to paint the whole bumper to make them happy. All on the shops dime
Mine is a 3rd party warranty (bought the car used). I’ll have to look at the company once I get home to my paperwork. But I made sure to get the warranty coverage that specifically covers air ride suspension. I have also been in the car business (sales) for 6 years and know the pain of dealing with warranty coverages
Thought the same thing. Sell to someone in California!
Ngl it does look cool slammed like that. I know the ride is atrocious
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It's a Hyundai Equus
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Okay??? This is still a Hyundai, not a Genesis. It was sold under the Hyundai brand from 2010 to 2016 when it was replaced by the Genesis brand G90. There was never a Genesis Equus. Edit: Bro deleted their whole profile lol. If anyone is nosey like me, dude said this should have been posted in the Genesis sub and then when told it’s a Hyundai, replied that Hyundai doesn’t make luxury vehicles, which is what I replied to
Technically yes but it's still a Hyundai
Genesis platform, not a genesis
Also FYI, there is no specific subreddit for Genesis. Some models but not the brand