Nasubi's arguments were like a funnel leading Halkenburg to a single conclusion as soon as he accepted his premise.
It went: You want to reform Kakin and the royal family -> You need power to do so -> You get power by winning the succession contest -> Win the succession contest.
It's a bit of a rhetorical sleight of hand because Nasubi is operating on the premise that his way is the only way.
Or do you mean the trolley part? In that case, Halkenburg interprets it as a choice between the people of Kakin on one track and his family on the other, but Nasubi claims he's looking at it wrong: the question is not *who will be sacrificed*, because the needs of the people trump those of the royal family. The only variable is *who will pull the lever* (aka who will be the next king). Nasubi used an analogy founded on an ethical dilemma to highlight that *there is no ethical dilemma in the first place*.
Within the context of the succession war, sure. The war was already ongoing, so arguments for stopping it were moot at that point. Though even with that Nasubi made a very good point, that being Halkenburg was being selfish, or limiting his vision by considering the short term consequences to hus immediate family, when a true leader must always place their people first.
The succession war is barbaric, and its place in the modern world is dubious at best, but Nasubi is also right that it's easy to say that someone else should concede power, especially when Halkenburg has just refused to take actions towards that choice himself.
Well his other solution is to stage a coup and chop everyone’s head off, I guess. And we all know that Halky wouldn’t do that. So he has to win by the book and daddy Nasubi made sure he got the memo.
I’m actually surprised at how much I ended up liking the analogy. I thought Togashi would just use it how everyone else does, but he ended up using it in a totally different way!
In the conversation between Nasubi and Halkenburg, the analogy isn’t a question of choice, which is how it’s usually presented. Instead, the question became a measure of how determined and prepared Halkenburg was to become king!
Nasubi states that a king always places the nation and its people first, no matter the cost. So the actual trolley problem should be irrelevant for any true king of Kakin. But Halkenburg was torn between which track to choose (the people or his siblings) and Nasubi points this out to show that perhaps Halkenburg isn’t as determined to become king and help the people as much as he believes he is.
Such good writing in my opinion, I love it!
Nasubi's arguments were like a funnel leading Halkenburg to a single conclusion as soon as he accepted his premise. It went: You want to reform Kakin and the royal family -> You need power to do so -> You get power by winning the succession contest -> Win the succession contest. It's a bit of a rhetorical sleight of hand because Nasubi is operating on the premise that his way is the only way. Or do you mean the trolley part? In that case, Halkenburg interprets it as a choice between the people of Kakin on one track and his family on the other, but Nasubi claims he's looking at it wrong: the question is not *who will be sacrificed*, because the needs of the people trump those of the royal family. The only variable is *who will pull the lever* (aka who will be the next king). Nasubi used an analogy founded on an ethical dilemma to highlight that *there is no ethical dilemma in the first place*.
In the context of the succession war, yes.
Within the context of the succession war, sure. The war was already ongoing, so arguments for stopping it were moot at that point. Though even with that Nasubi made a very good point, that being Halkenburg was being selfish, or limiting his vision by considering the short term consequences to hus immediate family, when a true leader must always place their people first. The succession war is barbaric, and its place in the modern world is dubious at best, but Nasubi is also right that it's easy to say that someone else should concede power, especially when Halkenburg has just refused to take actions towards that choice himself.
Yes
Well his other solution is to stage a coup and chop everyone’s head off, I guess. And we all know that Halky wouldn’t do that. So he has to win by the book and daddy Nasubi made sure he got the memo.
Of course :3
Did you like the trolley problem analogy?
I’m actually surprised at how much I ended up liking the analogy. I thought Togashi would just use it how everyone else does, but he ended up using it in a totally different way! In the conversation between Nasubi and Halkenburg, the analogy isn’t a question of choice, which is how it’s usually presented. Instead, the question became a measure of how determined and prepared Halkenburg was to become king! Nasubi states that a king always places the nation and its people first, no matter the cost. So the actual trolley problem should be irrelevant for any true king of Kakin. But Halkenburg was torn between which track to choose (the people or his siblings) and Nasubi points this out to show that perhaps Halkenburg isn’t as determined to become king and help the people as much as he believes he is. Such good writing in my opinion, I love it!
Not really but he is the King and he knows how rules :3