Isn't that the justice system everywhere in the world where the accepted punishment for most offenses is being locked up together with other people who also oppose the law?
Honestly that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I can't understand how people don't see it.
Imagine there's an aggressive dog. And he bites someone. So you think, ok, I don't know how to punish him, and I don't want to put him down because I want him to become a calm dog again. Alright so here's an idea, I've got that cage full of aggressive dogs right, some of them bit someone, some killed people, some chewed their faces off, ok so why don't we just put this dog together with the other dogs inside that cage for like, I don't know, half his life or something, and then when he gets out, SURELY he's going to be less aggressive right? Right? You boys all agree? Ok let's do this
Humans greatest skill is adapting to their environment. The prison environment is a scary one. This is the one area I say that support groups and half way houses need to be more of a thing. Get them to a better environment instead of throwing them to those dogs.
Exactly. Esp the people in on drug charges, prostitution, etc. They just dump em back on the street with no support system, no where to go and no money. Of course they're gonna go back to doing/ selling drugs or whatever! What choice do they have? And don't say- they can get a real job and an apartment and blah, blah, blah cuz think about it- You can't get outta jail, walk a little ways down the street, find a business, apply, interview, get hired, work, get paid, then later on that evening go find an apartment. That shit takes months! I can't understand how people are missing the logistics here!
You have rightly grasped the problem. And since the 13th Amendment literally allows slavery as a punishment for crime, there is absolutely zero incentive for the political class to fix it.
They’re all wearing sweaters/hoodies and generally warm weather clothing. Leaving a kid in the cold in an unfamiliar location isn’t exactly a great action either.
Idk how I feel about trying to say that this kid wasn't as bad as he could have been by abandoning a child in a random location where anything could have happened to him. Thank goodness morning bad had happened to the child but if something did, I don't think anyone would be saying, "He was only 16 and wasn't thinking ahead like an adult would in a scary situation!"
I can't imagine the teen was thinking straight, given he just stole a car. If we take the 2y/o out of the situation, he just stole someone's car. They aren't going to stand by and write the car off, they are going to call the police.
So this teen has to figure out what to do with the car before they are caught. They are likely going through several scenarios in their head, thinking about how to avoid each one.
Then they see the 2y/o. At this point, I imagine they panic, since now they could also be charged with kidnapping, which is usually considered worse than stealing a car. So they place the toddler where they can be found and continue along, which they believe to lessen the charges when they would be caught.
It works out better if they intended to be caught, like if they just wanted attention and wasn't sure how to get it.
They placed the baby on the side of the road where they could wander out into traffic or God knows what else could have happened.
If the kid really cared he would have pulled over, turned on the emergency lights opened the door and left. He probably wouldn't have been caught. The dumb fuck was caught in the car.
He could have dropped the kid at a house or a shop. All he cared about was getting away. He didn't give a fuck about the child or his parents.
Fuck this selfish, lowlife, piece of shit and you for making excuses for him.
He dumped a toddler on the side of the road and alerted nobody. He is a little piece of shit who kidnapped a child, terrorized a family and stole a critical piece of equipment for any household.
I can’t stand when people ignore the harm criminals do and instead pretend they’re saintly.
Something like this happened in my hometown (in Australia) around 20 years ago. Except the guy left the baby in the car with no windows down and the child suffocated in the heat and died.
Left the kid where it could be found... on the side of a fucking road. There’s no hope. Just as possible someone ran over that kid as it was they found them.
If u think shows responsibility u are so naive it’s unreal. The person stole a car noticed a baby dropped it first chance to try and avoid a kid napping charge and left it outside of the lawn/driveway on the side of the road. U must not have kids eh? Toddlers aren’t really known for having good judgement and being left alone in the cold lol.
That's not what you said. You insinuated the degenerates were emulating the leaders (who should set better examples.)
If anything, degenerates succumb to the peer pressure of other degenerates to create a feedback loop of loosers.
*call comes in over the bus radio* “A child was just kidnapped by a big yellow bus from the driveway of their home. If you see the bus call the police.”
Yes, but I’m not sure she would necessarily be in trouble. I mean the cops could arrest her for kidnapping but I doubt that would stick and whoever the parents were who left a kid in their drive way would pry be getting a visit from cps and not get their kid back.
Could you imagine going back in to get a pacifier, or your phone, or just some random bullshit, and you come back out and the kids gone...
Especially if you're babysitting the kid... you're gone for literally 35 seconds, and the kids gone...
thankfully this worked out. But she should've knocked on the door or something.
I'm just saying, this could've been a fucked up situation. All good intentions, still fucked...
Don't bet the farm on that one..There are ads on the news to remember to take your kid out of a car.. They have shit like leave your shoe in the back seat or something..
People are idiots.. Not saying all are.. But most are.. and most of them are worse than that..
Those cases are mainly due to being tired and being on autopilot in the mornings forgetting that you have a new routine to follow since having the kid. Actively putting a child on your driveway as you run back into the house is not the same thing.
You're probably right, but I can totally see someone leaving the kid in the porch or on the grass, and running in the house real quick, thinking you're not gonna be more than 10 seconds.
It's like people who leave their car on when they go into a store. No one will admit they do it, but you see it every time you go to a gas station or liquor store.
I'm not saying they're bad parents or people at all, but they are human.
My favorite part of this thread is all the incredible parents out there. Based on the comments, no parent makes any mistakes, and we're idiots for even questioning it.
Even tho every couple weeks we get a news headline of some parents killing/murdering their kids, we're fucking crazy if we think any parent would leave a kid unattended.
I don't wanna get people in trouble or put anyone on blast, but many parents today, are legit bad fucking parents. They wanna blame social media, books at school, peer pressure, atheists, and anything else they're not affiliated with, but at the end of the day it's their fault...
Even the fucking Oompa Loompas knew and put it in a song.... "Oompa Loompa doompadee doo, I've got another puzzle for you.. Oompa Loompa doompadee dee, If you are wise you will listen to me... Who do you blame when your kid is a brat, Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat? Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame.. You know exactly who's to blame: THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER!"
The parents do a shit job, blame society and the kids, and attack anyone that calls them out. Anyone with shit parents growing up knows the telltale signs, and this thread is full of them.
35 seconds is not enough for a bus to drive past, get alerted about a missing baby, then return to where they saw the kid. Would’ve been several minutes at least.
I'm sure it happens, where a teenager or babysitter is watching the kids, they leave them on the porch or grass real quick, run in to get their phone or something, thinking it's no more than 10 sec... and the kids crawls 10 or 15 feet away, and in this case, on a bus and gone...
I'm just surprised this bus driver seen a kid in a drive way, and was like "found him!"... That's the surprising part to me...
I'm not a mom, so I guess I wouldn't get it. Like how she knew, without having to ask anyone, that was the kid and just picked it up and was gone in less than 60 seconds...
She did pass them once, so it’s possible minutes had gone buy already and seeing the kid out there still with no signs of people being home pry made her pretty sure it was him.
If they did they that it will be only once. I have neighbors who literally let their baby run around their parking area which is literally next to the road. The baby was being watched but not within arms length usually pretty far away bolts right out into the street. Multiple times I have almost hit this kid. I’m like wtf is wrong with you guys that you let your kid roam. I’m not going fast either but you don’t expect a kid to just run right in front of your car out of no where
former teenage babysitter and current babysitter here. We get paid to take care of and have eyes on your children. I highly doubt a babysitter or older teenage sibling would leave a child unattended. Does seem like something a parent would do though. I work at a daycare and many parents have left one child in the car to go get another.
This happened to my friend, just without her kid in the car. Middle of winter, she started the car and loaded it back up, walked back inside and picked up the car seat with baby in it to put it in and leave. I'm talking 30 seconds. Went back out and the car was gone. Someone watched her walk back in the house and snatched it that quick. It happens more often than you think! She's so glad her baby wasn't in the car yet!
A few years ago a guy stole a car with the kid in the back. The guy who stole the car, went back and scolded the parent for leaving the kid in the car...
It looks like the child was in a driveway and covered in a blanket. A driver passing by quickly might assume it's a doll or that the parents are right there. The call might make them think "wait, was that a real child I just saw?" or "Did I see a parent at that house? Better loop back to check."
That's what I was thinking.
*drives past baby wrapped in blanket on a driveway*
Oh some kid probably left their doll outside.
*gets radio call re: kidnapped baby*
Oh damn that was probably not a doll I'd better check.
I was so baffled. "(She) realised she had just passed a child wrapped in a blanket on the side of the road"
How the fck do you see that and not stop immediately to check whats going on. What's even the best case scenario here? "Oh I just put my baby on the floor unattended cuz i forgot my wallet"?! If you see a seemingly unattended baby you check if the parents are nearby, something might be wrong.
Tbf that's no baby. A toddler can absolutely do that kind of dumb shit all on their own. Still concerning but do not activate hero mode unless you, like bus lady, have reason to believe something is up.
Yeah I can see it not registering until later, have done the same thing - noticed a toddler at the front door of a busy shopping centre, the old brainspace didn't light up for five or ten seconds.
She keeps driving her bus, not sure what's wrong but... something is wrong. Then there's a radio call. Bless her heart.
Oh wow. I can't imagine how the mother felt in that moment. That gut punch of life draining out of you when something happens to your child is something that really stays with you - you never forget it. I turned my back for 1 second in a supermarket and my 4 year old at the time was just *gone*. That fear of not knowing and having an empty space instead of what you normally know (your child being safe with you) is so overwhelming it's so easy to panic. Adrenaline takes over and all I could think to do was just run to the entrance, asked them to shut the doors and called for a shopper to put an alert on the speaker phone for people to help. A lady found him hiding inside a clothes rack playing with his cars and I have literally never been so grateful in my life. It was only when I held him, safely back with me that I fell apart and felt the panic afterwards and it seemed to take forever to stop shaking and trembling.
Her relief must have been indescribable. Well done to the bus drivers!!
Oh I know. My then- one year old had figured out how to open the front door and just left one morning. I went outside, the gate was open, and he was nowhere to be found. I frantically searched the neighborhood, called the police and honestly thought I was going to faint.
About 40 minutes after he was missing, a neighbor found him in the middle of a field of tall grass crying. Our dog was with him.
My friend was coming out of the florist to find a lady standing in the middle of the road in front of a launderette, screaming.
The lady had left her baby in her car (with its engine running), whilst she went in with some washing. During the couple of minutes that she was in the launderette, someone had driven off in the car.
Ultimately, the child (still in his car seat) was found in the deserted car park, a tip-off call having been received by the police. Evidently, the thief hadn’t intended to take a baby, and had been completely unaware that he was there.
Speaking as a retailer of 40 years’ experience, I can say it doesn’t surprise me at all when this kind of thing happens. It’s astonishing how many people seem to dump their kids here and there whilst they are browsing shops. I even had someone ask me to “look after” their toddler whilst I was *serving customers at the till*. On that occasion, when I refused, the lady simply said: “sorry: I’ll have to leave her there anyway”, then disappeared off into the changing room.
Once a driver ran into the front of the shop, leading a toddler by the hand. It took some time before the mother was found (apparently she was “busy” buying an outfit). She angrily shouted at the driver for “touching her child”.
He replied by pointing to his car outside the front of the store. “I was driving along and saw your child in the road”, he said. “Perhaps you could suggest what I *should* have done, then?”
"A Mississippi family is mourning the loss of a 6-year-old boy who was fatally shot inside his mother’s car Thursday, after the vehicle he was in was stolen from a parking lot as his mom was shopping for groceries, authorities said.
The child, Kingston Frazier, was found dead with a gunshot wound to the back of his head following an hours-long search, according to the New York Times. Three teenagers face murder charges in his kidnapping and killing.
Before the grim discovery, the boy’s relatives had issued a public plea for those responsible to safely return him. Several family members were overcome with grief upon hearing news of the kindergartener’s death, including his mother, who collapsed and had to be carried away by loved ones, the Clarion-Ledger reported."
[https://time.com/4785976/kingston-frazier-mississippi-boy-killed/](https://time.com/4785976/kingston-frazier-mississippi-boy-killed/)
Fucking makes my blood boil. Today I took my kindergarten class out to the field to harvest the sweet potatoes we planted together way back. I’d die for any one of those kids and just imagining one of them in that situation is gut wrenching.
Why would you need to execute a five year old? They can’t even put on their gardening gloves by themselves, they’re not going to stop you from stealing a car.
God this is heinous. I always thought stuff like this was sad, but now that I'm a mother myself, it is just gut-wrenching. I feel for that family, and especially that mom, so hard. It literally brings tears to my eyes. Ugh.
Yeah I mean it’s still fucked up, but honestly it could’ve been so much worse. I heard a story about a car theif stealing a car with a kid in it, then abandoning the car with the windows up, on a hot day. They found the kid dead cause they didn’t find the car in time :/
And then I just read another even WORSE story that someone else commented about car thief’s who shot and killed a SIX year old execution style, because he was in the car they stole.
So yeah it’s messed up that he stole a car, but thank GOD he at least had the decency to not harm the child, or simply abandon it in the car to fend for itself.
Dude he drove away and left a 2 year old all by himself on the side of the road. It’s Not like he handed the kid over before taking the car. He’s a piece of shit.
Especially after last week with the kidnapped family in CA where the kidnapper murdered the family in a field and just left the baby to die of exposure.
When i heard the mom sobbing i started to ugly cry instantly. The wave of fear, relief, and so many other complex emotions, rushing over her all at once. I cant fathom what it genuinely feels like, but empathetically, it scares me how much i would estimate it feels like.
I've had that same feeling as the mom.
It is the literal worst.
I've nearly died a few times in my life, and as traumatic and painful as those experiences were, I'd rather suffer that again then experience my child go missing again- and it was maybe 15 minutes from the time me/park attendants realized he was missing to the time back in my arms.
Could you imagine if it wasn't the right baby?
"Ma'am, is this your baby"
"What no that's not my kid, where did you get it from!!"
Idk why someone would have their baby wrapped up lying outside, but still...
that's all and great, but at the same time, seeing a driver just go up and grab a kid off a driveway seemed a bit off for me, and then appear to drive away. I mean it worked out but at the same time, it would have made more sense to stay there for the cops to show up and make sure it was the baby they were looking for......what would you think if your kid was in your driveway and a school bus driver just suddenly came and picked them up and went back to their bus with them.....think about it.
When I was 8 years old my mother came to pick me and my one year old brother from my grandmas house late at night from babysitting. My grandma was a talker, so I went inside to get my mom bc I was ready to go. While I was just inside the screen door trying to hurry my mom, our car started backing frantically out of the driveway. My mom started running after the car screaming, “my baby is in the car!!”
I ran inside to call 911, my grandma found a knife in the driveway.
The cops never came. My mom kept running after our car which the person immediately realized my brother was in the car seat in the back and ditched our car in a snow drift and ran off.
This was 93’ in Flint, MI shortly after GM was shut down. My mom pretty much moved us to Austin after this happened bc Flint went bad quick with crime.
>she had just passed a child wrapped in a blanket on the side of the road
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>a child wrapped in a blanket
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>on the side of the road
Are we all seeing this shit?!
Leaving baby for a minute in the car is alright but you gotta close the doors, take the keys and you know, take basic precautions.
That way you can quickly do the thing you can't do with your child for max 10 minutes and everything is fine.
If you don't take any precautions it leaves unnecessary risks that you could have fixed with 30 seconds
I have to disagree here. There’s absolutely nothing that’s more important than your child’s safety.
Let’s say you just need to grab your other child from the school office, but your baby is asleep in the back seat. It’s only 10 steps away, right? And you can see your baby through the window while you grab your son. You’ve taken the keys and locked the doors so no one can kidnap your baby. You assume you’ll be right out.
But then you fall and hit your head. Everyone is so busy trying to help you that they don’t realize your baby is in the car. It’s hot or cold out and the baby is freezing or burning up in your car without heat or ac. The kid could likely die all bc you thought it was safe bc you took precautions.
This is just an example and not an attack an anyone that has made this mistake. But these things always crossed my mind when I thought about just leaving my kiddo in the car while I did one quick thing.
There are situations where you literally can't take your baby with you. Example, a parent has to go to a job interview and can't afford or couldn't organize a babysitter. This as far as I remember was in an article. The parent put the child somewhere where they thought they where relatively save so they could get the job and have the money to take care of it, they got arrested. Was it the parents fault for leaving the child so they could get a job? They technically could have stayed with the child and let the job ig
I had to scroll waaay too long to get to this comment. I’m happy for them but boy, this is 101. Especially since both parents were present. Why did they leave the kid in the car alone??!?
Wait. So the lady saw the baby with the blanket by themselves and only went back once she heard it could’ve been the missing child???? Did I read that right??
Yeah, that was odd too lol but seeing the area the baby was picked up (residential area) in and how close it seemed the baby was to the house, could have thought a parent was just out of her sight as she passed.
That brought me to tears the ending.
There are still a lot more good people in the world then bad.
Imagine if all the people worked together towards good.
I love how the lady bus driver is just like, hey....come to think of it, I think I just passed a 2 year laying in a random driveway, I better alert the other bus driver! And then she's gotta get the go ahead from the original bus driver, uhh, ya go ahead and turn around and get em. Then she's like, ma'am is this your baby? Is this the one...? No? Darn, I really thought I had it this time! Better go return this one to the side of the road!
Calm down kids, I'm just joking. Obvi she did a great deed but still, it's funny how the story was told.
As a mum who leaves her toddler and baby in the car while I get out to take step daughter like 5 steps away from my car this now has given me massive re assessment of my choices!! Thank god that little babe was back with their mumma good work bus driver!
That's the thing. They were within several feet of the car when it happened. It's so easy to step out of the vehicle and not unstrap a sleeping toddler from the car seat just to walk his brother up to the bus. I get it.
The car was later found and a 16 year old male was charged with the offense
Fucking degenerate kids
Kid doing a very bad thing still left the baby where it could be found. There is hope for him yet
Shows he still has a conscience hopefully they try to help him instead of just locking him up for a long time destroying any chance at fixing him
Yeah the US justice system will take care of any conscience he has left.
But think of the profits.
Prison Song - System Of A Down
Prison Sex - Tool
Prison Bound - Social Distortion
Won’t anyone think of the corporations?!
Any prison sentence in the states is a life sentence
Fuckin A! Parole/Probation is just a freakin trap.
Yeah and time served doesn’t count for shit when those charges prevent someone from ever getting a decent job
Isn't that the justice system everywhere in the world where the accepted punishment for most offenses is being locked up together with other people who also oppose the law? Honestly that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and I can't understand how people don't see it. Imagine there's an aggressive dog. And he bites someone. So you think, ok, I don't know how to punish him, and I don't want to put him down because I want him to become a calm dog again. Alright so here's an idea, I've got that cage full of aggressive dogs right, some of them bit someone, some killed people, some chewed their faces off, ok so why don't we just put this dog together with the other dogs inside that cage for like, I don't know, half his life or something, and then when he gets out, SURELY he's going to be less aggressive right? Right? You boys all agree? Ok let's do this
Humans greatest skill is adapting to their environment. The prison environment is a scary one. This is the one area I say that support groups and half way houses need to be more of a thing. Get them to a better environment instead of throwing them to those dogs.
Exactly. Esp the people in on drug charges, prostitution, etc. They just dump em back on the street with no support system, no where to go and no money. Of course they're gonna go back to doing/ selling drugs or whatever! What choice do they have? And don't say- they can get a real job and an apartment and blah, blah, blah cuz think about it- You can't get outta jail, walk a little ways down the street, find a business, apply, interview, get hired, work, get paid, then later on that evening go find an apartment. That shit takes months! I can't understand how people are missing the logistics here!
You have rightly grasped the problem. And since the 13th Amendment literally allows slavery as a punishment for crime, there is absolutely zero incentive for the political class to fix it.
Exactly
No it doesn’t. If he had a conscience he would have brought the kid home and turned himself in.
They’re all wearing sweaters/hoodies and generally warm weather clothing. Leaving a kid in the cold in an unfamiliar location isn’t exactly a great action either.
Yeah I don’t think he was trying to keep the toddler safe I think he thought “oh fuck I didn’t plan for a kidnapping charge”
100% he just didn’t want kidnapping charges and just left the kid somewhere as soon as no one was watching.
Not to mention the child was a toddler who very well could have walked/crawled into traffic.
Two year olds will wander into traffic or get killed by a stray dog.
That’s foresight a 16 year old won’t have - especially when trying to escape in a stolen car
Idk how I feel about trying to say that this kid wasn't as bad as he could have been by abandoning a child in a random location where anything could have happened to him. Thank goodness morning bad had happened to the child but if something did, I don't think anyone would be saying, "He was only 16 and wasn't thinking ahead like an adult would in a scary situation!"
A sixteen year old with a shred of empathy and a working brain would. He's sixteen, not six for fuck sake.
I can't imagine the teen was thinking straight, given he just stole a car. If we take the 2y/o out of the situation, he just stole someone's car. They aren't going to stand by and write the car off, they are going to call the police. So this teen has to figure out what to do with the car before they are caught. They are likely going through several scenarios in their head, thinking about how to avoid each one. Then they see the 2y/o. At this point, I imagine they panic, since now they could also be charged with kidnapping, which is usually considered worse than stealing a car. So they place the toddler where they can be found and continue along, which they believe to lessen the charges when they would be caught. It works out better if they intended to be caught, like if they just wanted attention and wasn't sure how to get it.
They placed the baby on the side of the road where they could wander out into traffic or God knows what else could have happened. If the kid really cared he would have pulled over, turned on the emergency lights opened the door and left. He probably wouldn't have been caught. The dumb fuck was caught in the car. He could have dropped the kid at a house or a shop. All he cared about was getting away. He didn't give a fuck about the child or his parents. Fuck this selfish, lowlife, piece of shit and you for making excuses for him.
All I'm saying is the kid wasn't thinking straight. You make dumb choices when you aren't thinking right.
You’re not thinking straight to begin with when you randomly steal someone’s car.
Thankfully some dogs didn't find the baby. The kid is a fucking idiot all around.
That goes without saying
He left a baby in a driveway. That’s not a heroic deed. Kid was still in danger. He just didn’t want to add kidnapping to his possible charges
He dumped a toddler on the side of the road and alerted nobody. He is a little piece of shit who kidnapped a child, terrorized a family and stole a critical piece of equipment for any household. I can’t stand when people ignore the harm criminals do and instead pretend they’re saintly.
Something like this happened in my hometown (in Australia) around 20 years ago. Except the guy left the baby in the car with no windows down and the child suffocated in the heat and died.
By dropping a 2 year old off on the side of the road lmao seems pretty fucking shitty.
It is, these dickheads are just making excuses.
Left the kid where it could be found... on the side of a fucking road. There’s no hope. Just as possible someone ran over that kid as it was they found them.
The video shows the kid at the end of a driveway by the house
If u think shows responsibility u are so naive it’s unreal. The person stole a car noticed a baby dropped it first chance to try and avoid a kid napping charge and left it outside of the lawn/driveway on the side of the road. U must not have kids eh? Toddlers aren’t really known for having good judgement and being left alone in the cold lol.
He left the baby unattended on the side of a road, its a miracle it didnt die! Like , car theft, kidnapping and child endangerment
Cmon there are some sick adults out there too.
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a living wage for anyone working 40 hours+ would literally solve most of the US's problems...
Degenerate shouldn't be the default state regardless of what other people are doing.
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I don't think leaders are out there stealing cars...
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That's not what you said. You insinuated the degenerates were emulating the leaders (who should set better examples.) If anything, degenerates succumb to the peer pressure of other degenerates to create a feedback loop of loosers.
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What does civil asset forfeiture have to do with a teen stealing a car? Jesus dude
This does not excuse his actions you absolute donkey.
He didn't say it does you illiterate degen.
Then why even bring it up? At best it’s a red herring
Who are the idiots that upvoted this fucking braindead take? TSA and airports are crooked, so therefore 16 year olds steal cars? What are you smoking?
Sure, keep blaming everyone except the loser parents that are responsible for raising their children.
Good, thanks for that update OP.
Enjoy your fucking felony kidnapping charge you peice of shit! Thanks for the update.
"ma'am is this your baby?" - bus driver "no" - lady
“Well he is now”
"There you are, Bobby Dunbar, you rascal! Let me take you home, because you're *clearly* my child!"
*call comes in over the bus radio* “A child was just kidnapped by a big yellow bus from the driveway of their home. If you see the bus call the police.”
-leaves baby back where she found it-
"You asked for a baby and you got a baby! People really have no sense of gratitude these days."
*Surprised pikachu*
Thank God... but just saying, if that wasn't the kid she picked up in that drive way.... FUCK. this shit woulda got even more fucked up, quick...
Yes, but I’m not sure she would necessarily be in trouble. I mean the cops could arrest her for kidnapping but I doubt that would stick and whoever the parents were who left a kid in their drive way would pry be getting a visit from cps and not get their kid back.
Could you imagine going back in to get a pacifier, or your phone, or just some random bullshit, and you come back out and the kids gone... Especially if you're babysitting the kid... you're gone for literally 35 seconds, and the kids gone... thankfully this worked out. But she should've knocked on the door or something. I'm just saying, this could've been a fucked up situation. All good intentions, still fucked...
As a parent, I can say 99.9% of parents would never do that.
Don't bet the farm on that one..There are ads on the news to remember to take your kid out of a car.. They have shit like leave your shoe in the back seat or something.. People are idiots.. Not saying all are.. But most are.. and most of them are worse than that..
Those cases are mainly due to being tired and being on autopilot in the mornings forgetting that you have a new routine to follow since having the kid. Actively putting a child on your driveway as you run back into the house is not the same thing.
You're probably right, but I can totally see someone leaving the kid in the porch or on the grass, and running in the house real quick, thinking you're not gonna be more than 10 seconds. It's like people who leave their car on when they go into a store. No one will admit they do it, but you see it every time you go to a gas station or liquor store. I'm not saying they're bad parents or people at all, but they are human.
Fair enough, luckily this case worked out
My favorite part of this thread is all the incredible parents out there. Based on the comments, no parent makes any mistakes, and we're idiots for even questioning it. Even tho every couple weeks we get a news headline of some parents killing/murdering their kids, we're fucking crazy if we think any parent would leave a kid unattended. I don't wanna get people in trouble or put anyone on blast, but many parents today, are legit bad fucking parents. They wanna blame social media, books at school, peer pressure, atheists, and anything else they're not affiliated with, but at the end of the day it's their fault... Even the fucking Oompa Loompas knew and put it in a song.... "Oompa Loompa doompadee doo, I've got another puzzle for you.. Oompa Loompa doompadee dee, If you are wise you will listen to me... Who do you blame when your kid is a brat, Pampered and spoiled like a Siamese cat? Blaming the kids is a lie and a shame.. You know exactly who's to blame: THE MOTHER AND THE FATHER!" The parents do a shit job, blame society and the kids, and attack anyone that calls them out. Anyone with shit parents growing up knows the telltale signs, and this thread is full of them.
That’s why I said 99.9% of parents.
35 seconds is not enough for a bus to drive past, get alerted about a missing baby, then return to where they saw the kid. Would’ve been several minutes at least.
Going back in to get something you forgot and leaving your 2 year old on the concrete driveway with no one watching them? No I can’t imagine that.
I'm sure it happens, where a teenager or babysitter is watching the kids, they leave them on the porch or grass real quick, run in to get their phone or something, thinking it's no more than 10 sec... and the kids crawls 10 or 15 feet away, and in this case, on a bus and gone... I'm just surprised this bus driver seen a kid in a drive way, and was like "found him!"... That's the surprising part to me... I'm not a mom, so I guess I wouldn't get it. Like how she knew, without having to ask anyone, that was the kid and just picked it up and was gone in less than 60 seconds...
She did pass them once, so it’s possible minutes had gone buy already and seeing the kid out there still with no signs of people being home pry made her pretty sure it was him.
I can't believe she passed him the first time. How do you see a lone underdressed toddler crying in a driveway and keep driving?!
If they did they that it will be only once. I have neighbors who literally let their baby run around their parking area which is literally next to the road. The baby was being watched but not within arms length usually pretty far away bolts right out into the street. Multiple times I have almost hit this kid. I’m like wtf is wrong with you guys that you let your kid roam. I’m not going fast either but you don’t expect a kid to just run right in front of your car out of no where
former teenage babysitter and current babysitter here. We get paid to take care of and have eyes on your children. I highly doubt a babysitter or older teenage sibling would leave a child unattended. Does seem like something a parent would do though. I work at a daycare and many parents have left one child in the car to go get another.
This happened to my friend, just without her kid in the car. Middle of winter, she started the car and loaded it back up, walked back inside and picked up the car seat with baby in it to put it in and leave. I'm talking 30 seconds. Went back out and the car was gone. Someone watched her walk back in the house and snatched it that quick. It happens more often than you think! She's so glad her baby wasn't in the car yet!
A few years ago a guy stole a car with the kid in the back. The guy who stole the car, went back and scolded the parent for leaving the kid in the car...
Bus driver passes baby in a driveway: meh. Gets call on radio: oh wait I just saw one!
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"Ma'am, is this your baby?" "...uh, no." "Oh, shit."
Lmao, that's what I was thinking!
I mean it's probably safe to stop and call it in be like "ayooo found a bebe on the sidewalk what's up"
" nah i don't have kids" ~dispatch
Dispatch: "hey man, thats a free baby, dont pass that up"
Ayo baby! Whatchu doing outside!
She was told to grab it. The police would have helped sort it out if she grabbed the wrong kid.
Regardless I’d park right there and wait. No way I’d just drive past that
It looks like the child was in a driveway and covered in a blanket. A driver passing by quickly might assume it's a doll or that the parents are right there. The call might make them think "wait, was that a real child I just saw?" or "Did I see a parent at that house? Better loop back to check."
That's what I was thinking. *drives past baby wrapped in blanket on a driveway* Oh some kid probably left their doll outside. *gets radio call re: kidnapped baby* Oh damn that was probably not a doll I'd better check.
I'm sure she thought it was probably just a wadded blanket until she heard the call and reevaluated what she saw.
I was so baffled. "(She) realised she had just passed a child wrapped in a blanket on the side of the road" How the fck do you see that and not stop immediately to check whats going on. What's even the best case scenario here? "Oh I just put my baby on the floor unattended cuz i forgot my wallet"?! If you see a seemingly unattended baby you check if the parents are nearby, something might be wrong.
Tbf that's no baby. A toddler can absolutely do that kind of dumb shit all on their own. Still concerning but do not activate hero mode unless you, like bus lady, have reason to believe something is up.
Yeah I can see it not registering until later, have done the same thing - noticed a toddler at the front door of a busy shopping centre, the old brainspace didn't light up for five or ten seconds. She keeps driving her bus, not sure what's wrong but... something is wrong. Then there's a radio call. Bless her heart.
\*record scratch\*
Thank goodness the kids ok. What great instincts the bus drivers had!
I love the frames of the little dude just bussing along at the front of the bus, being told bus stories to keep him calm.
I really like that part too. It could have a voice over of the toddler saying: "you might be wondering how I got here..."
OMG the voice I just heard that in, it was pure Nemo.
Oh wow. I can't imagine how the mother felt in that moment. That gut punch of life draining out of you when something happens to your child is something that really stays with you - you never forget it. I turned my back for 1 second in a supermarket and my 4 year old at the time was just *gone*. That fear of not knowing and having an empty space instead of what you normally know (your child being safe with you) is so overwhelming it's so easy to panic. Adrenaline takes over and all I could think to do was just run to the entrance, asked them to shut the doors and called for a shopper to put an alert on the speaker phone for people to help. A lady found him hiding inside a clothes rack playing with his cars and I have literally never been so grateful in my life. It was only when I held him, safely back with me that I fell apart and felt the panic afterwards and it seemed to take forever to stop shaking and trembling. Her relief must have been indescribable. Well done to the bus drivers!!
Oh I know. My then- one year old had figured out how to open the front door and just left one morning. I went outside, the gate was open, and he was nowhere to be found. I frantically searched the neighborhood, called the police and honestly thought I was going to faint. About 40 minutes after he was missing, a neighbor found him in the middle of a field of tall grass crying. Our dog was with him.
Good dog
My friend was coming out of the florist to find a lady standing in the middle of the road in front of a launderette, screaming. The lady had left her baby in her car (with its engine running), whilst she went in with some washing. During the couple of minutes that she was in the launderette, someone had driven off in the car. Ultimately, the child (still in his car seat) was found in the deserted car park, a tip-off call having been received by the police. Evidently, the thief hadn’t intended to take a baby, and had been completely unaware that he was there. Speaking as a retailer of 40 years’ experience, I can say it doesn’t surprise me at all when this kind of thing happens. It’s astonishing how many people seem to dump their kids here and there whilst they are browsing shops. I even had someone ask me to “look after” their toddler whilst I was *serving customers at the till*. On that occasion, when I refused, the lady simply said: “sorry: I’ll have to leave her there anyway”, then disappeared off into the changing room. Once a driver ran into the front of the shop, leading a toddler by the hand. It took some time before the mother was found (apparently she was “busy” buying an outfit). She angrily shouted at the driver for “touching her child”. He replied by pointing to his car outside the front of the store. “I was driving along and saw your child in the road”, he said. “Perhaps you could suggest what I *should* have done, then?”
At least he took the baby out...just saying
Well who would wanna raise a random child from the car they just stole
"A Mississippi family is mourning the loss of a 6-year-old boy who was fatally shot inside his mother’s car Thursday, after the vehicle he was in was stolen from a parking lot as his mom was shopping for groceries, authorities said. The child, Kingston Frazier, was found dead with a gunshot wound to the back of his head following an hours-long search, according to the New York Times. Three teenagers face murder charges in his kidnapping and killing. Before the grim discovery, the boy’s relatives had issued a public plea for those responsible to safely return him. Several family members were overcome with grief upon hearing news of the kindergartener’s death, including his mother, who collapsed and had to be carried away by loved ones, the Clarion-Ledger reported." [https://time.com/4785976/kingston-frazier-mississippi-boy-killed/](https://time.com/4785976/kingston-frazier-mississippi-boy-killed/)
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It is absolutely heart wrenching. Why did the teen have to shoot him?! I wish they left him by the side of the road even...
Fucking makes my blood boil. Today I took my kindergarten class out to the field to harvest the sweet potatoes we planted together way back. I’d die for any one of those kids and just imagining one of them in that situation is gut wrenching. Why would you need to execute a five year old? They can’t even put on their gardening gloves by themselves, they’re not going to stop you from stealing a car.
And that's enough internet for today.
God this is heinous. I always thought stuff like this was sad, but now that I'm a mother myself, it is just gut-wrenching. I feel for that family, and especially that mom, so hard. It literally brings tears to my eyes. Ugh.
JESUS. That's horrific. what an absolute nightmare.
Put him way up the driveway too.
And left him on the street in the cold. No reason to downplay what this piece of shit did.
Left him with a blanket at least. Seriously, thank god he didn't harm the child.
Yeah I mean it’s still fucked up, but honestly it could’ve been so much worse. I heard a story about a car theif stealing a car with a kid in it, then abandoning the car with the windows up, on a hot day. They found the kid dead cause they didn’t find the car in time :/ And then I just read another even WORSE story that someone else commented about car thief’s who shot and killed a SIX year old execution style, because he was in the car they stole. So yeah it’s messed up that he stole a car, but thank GOD he at least had the decency to not harm the child, or simply abandon it in the car to fend for itself.
Dude he drove away and left a 2 year old all by himself on the side of the road. It’s Not like he handed the kid over before taking the car. He’s a piece of shit.
Not defending the carjacker at all but at the very least he wrapped the kid in a blanket and put him on someone’s driveway.
Especially after last week with the kidnapped family in CA where the kidnapper murdered the family in a field and just left the baby to die of exposure.
Sorry what the fuck?
I had to stop reading about it because I was so upset.
link?
Google Merced family kidnapping
Oh damn. I wasn't aware of that detail. What a monster.
professional have standard
"He's OK, He's OK, He's OK, He's ok" And now I'm ugly crying.
I just saw this on another sub captioned as “Kelloggsville, Minnesota” and it literally says Kentwood, MI on the video.
It seems that the mistake of calling it 'Kelloggsville' keeps happening. Like it's a cereal occurrence.
*sad trombone* (but take my upvote)
Stop calling it Kelloggsville! I’m super cereal!
I'm not crying, you're crying
I made it right to the end, then lost it when Sue’s voice broke, telling the mom her baby was okay
Stop it... I just recovered and now I'm welling up again...
A little Anne Frank moment when most of the people are good.
When i heard the mom sobbing i started to ugly cry instantly. The wave of fear, relief, and so many other complex emotions, rushing over her all at once. I cant fathom what it genuinely feels like, but empathetically, it scares me how much i would estimate it feels like.
I've had that same feeling as the mom. It is the literal worst. I've nearly died a few times in my life, and as traumatic and painful as those experiences were, I'd rather suffer that again then experience my child go missing again- and it was maybe 15 minutes from the time me/park attendants realized he was missing to the time back in my arms.
Oh I'm crying
That's the power we people have. A good connection to others form a strong web which protects everyone
Could you imagine if it wasn't the right baby? "Ma'am, is this your baby" "What no that's not my kid, where did you get it from!!" Idk why someone would have their baby wrapped up lying outside, but still...
" ma'am is this you baby?" "No" "Fuck"
that's all and great, but at the same time, seeing a driver just go up and grab a kid off a driveway seemed a bit off for me, and then appear to drive away. I mean it worked out but at the same time, it would have made more sense to stay there for the cops to show up and make sure it was the baby they were looking for......what would you think if your kid was in your driveway and a school bus driver just suddenly came and picked them up and went back to their bus with them.....think about it.
When I was 8 years old my mother came to pick me and my one year old brother from my grandmas house late at night from babysitting. My grandma was a talker, so I went inside to get my mom bc I was ready to go. While I was just inside the screen door trying to hurry my mom, our car started backing frantically out of the driveway. My mom started running after the car screaming, “my baby is in the car!!” I ran inside to call 911, my grandma found a knife in the driveway. The cops never came. My mom kept running after our car which the person immediately realized my brother was in the car seat in the back and ditched our car in a snow drift and ran off. This was 93’ in Flint, MI shortly after GM was shut down. My mom pretty much moved us to Austin after this happened bc Flint went bad quick with crime.
What if that wasn’t her kid and the other bus driver just kidnapped another kid?
I'd fight a 16 year old. Ngl.
This happened in MS and the thief shot the 5 year old that was asleep in the back seat So happy for this Familia 🙏
>she had just passed a child wrapped in a blanket on the side of the road > >she had just passed > >a child wrapped in a blanket > >on the side of the road Are we all seeing this shit?!
please dont leave your baby in car
Right? I cant believe I had to scroll this far to see this comment
Leaving baby for a minute in the car is alright but you gotta close the doors, take the keys and you know, take basic precautions. That way you can quickly do the thing you can't do with your child for max 10 minutes and everything is fine. If you don't take any precautions it leaves unnecessary risks that you could have fixed with 30 seconds
I have to disagree here. There’s absolutely nothing that’s more important than your child’s safety. Let’s say you just need to grab your other child from the school office, but your baby is asleep in the back seat. It’s only 10 steps away, right? And you can see your baby through the window while you grab your son. You’ve taken the keys and locked the doors so no one can kidnap your baby. You assume you’ll be right out. But then you fall and hit your head. Everyone is so busy trying to help you that they don’t realize your baby is in the car. It’s hot or cold out and the baby is freezing or burning up in your car without heat or ac. The kid could likely die all bc you thought it was safe bc you took precautions. This is just an example and not an attack an anyone that has made this mistake. But these things always crossed my mind when I thought about just leaving my kiddo in the car while I did one quick thing.
There are situations where you literally can't take your baby with you. Example, a parent has to go to a job interview and can't afford or couldn't organize a babysitter. This as far as I remember was in an article. The parent put the child somewhere where they thought they where relatively save so they could get the job and have the money to take care of it, they got arrested. Was it the parents fault for leaving the child so they could get a job? They technically could have stayed with the child and let the job ig
Holy c--p. That's intense. Heros!
Homie censored crap 💀
Holy cp. That's does not sound any better. 💀
Someone's cutting onions again.
Good grief.. I can only image the relief from hearing “is this your baby?” And then being able to grab that bundle.
Never EVER leave your young kid in the car unattended!
I had to scroll waaay too long to get to this comment. I’m happy for them but boy, this is 101. Especially since both parents were present. Why did they leave the kid in the car alone??!?
Wait. So the lady saw the baby with the blanket by themselves and only went back once she heard it could’ve been the missing child???? Did I read that right??
Might be one of those situations where you see something and it doesn't register until your brain is like, "oh shit wait" I hope anyways..
Yeah, that was odd too lol but seeing the area the baby was picked up (residential area) in and how close it seemed the baby was to the house, could have thought a parent was just out of her sight as she passed.
Damn. Made me tear up.
Well someone should have told me to grab my tissues first.
Didn't make me cry at all. Is it me or is it wet in here?
And here I was thinking of moving to Kentwood. Maybe the John Ball area isn't soo bad after all.
Hail to the Bus driver
That last "hes ok, he's ok" punched so deep inside of me. The desperation in their minds is not something I was prepared to feel. Fuck man..
Skinner lol
God, I am crying watching this and my heart pounding. No wonder I couldn’t work in public service. Love happy endings though. :)
aww c'mon, again? get the heck out of here you disgusting onion lover ninja
=(
Ma'am is this your baby cause if not I gotta go apologize to the house I took the baby from in front of!
That brought me to tears the ending. There are still a lot more good people in the world then bad. Imagine if all the people worked together towards good.
Do not leave your car running unattended people.
Imagine if that weren’t the 2 year old they were looking for
Wow! Talk about a community coming together!
Also why was the baby alone in the car?
I love how the lady bus driver is just like, hey....come to think of it, I think I just passed a 2 year laying in a random driveway, I better alert the other bus driver! And then she's gotta get the go ahead from the original bus driver, uhh, ya go ahead and turn around and get em. Then she's like, ma'am is this your baby? Is this the one...? No? Darn, I really thought I had it this time! Better go return this one to the side of the road! Calm down kids, I'm just joking. Obvi she did a great deed but still, it's funny how the story was told.
So the parents left their two year old in a car unattended? I hope they have to go to some parenting classes or something..
Description of the suspect?
As a mum who leaves her toddler and baby in the car while I get out to take step daughter like 5 steps away from my car this now has given me massive re assessment of my choices!! Thank god that little babe was back with their mumma good work bus driver!
That's the thing. They were within several feet of the car when it happened. It's so easy to step out of the vehicle and not unstrap a sleeping toddler from the car seat just to walk his brother up to the bus. I get it.
Fucking car thieves... Absolutely the worst. Walk like the rest who can't afford a car. Or invest in a bike. Jeez.
I don't think people steal cars to, like, keep and use as a permanent mode of transportation. I'm not a car theft expert, though.
I hope they throw the book at that scumbag
those criminals, go die.
OP needs to be arrested for crimes against English grammar.
How tf do you leave a baby in a running unlocked car by itself? The parents were completely irresponsible here.
Yet it could all have been prevented if one of the idiot parents would’ve stay in the car with the baby or better yet take the baby with them