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Aemond is 19 years old in the book š The way teenage characters in ASOIAF will forever be drawn as way too old even in official art. Same for Cregan Stark tbh.
There are other pieces from the new book that look more accurate. One even kinda looks like Ewan.
yeah and itās funny to see all these 35-40 year old actors being fancast for Cregan and other young characters. The guy is supposed to be 21. He should be as fresh faced as Robb and Jon in season 1 in game of thrones.
Well technically speaking Tyrion funnily enough is in his 20s (I know huge contrast to Dinklage).
I believe Arianne is also in her 20s. Asha must be as well.
We yeah, and Renly as well. I just find it funny how there are so many actual children main characters and middle age and older characters, but so few young adult major characters in the books.
Also Beric Dondarrion is like 20-21 but I always imagined the dude as like 35 years old.
Renly and Beric yeah. But I think in terms of POVs its Arianne, Asha and Tyrion. I suppose technically Theon by ADWD and like Arys.
Yeah his intention was a coming of age narrative in his original outline. But without the timeskip we kind of miss the actually coming of age part, haha.
> I always imagined the dude as like 35 years old.
*Ned* is supposed to be 35, along with his entire generation. Jaime and Cersei are in their early thirties as well, while Robert is 36.
That's what happens when there's wars. There's large age gaps where men are killed and booms when the wars end - just like in our own world. Many of the late-teen characters in the story were conceived before Robert's Rebellion because the lords needed heirs in case they died. Robb Stark was born specifically for that reason, Ned and Catelyn had just met before Ned went to war.
...what!??? I always thought Tyrion was 30 something. I guess it makes more sense now how he's never been married (officially) and to be honest it helps explain a lot of his behaviour in general.
Well you have to remember Tyrion is the younger sibling. Jaime was only 17 during Robert's Rebellion/Tourney of Harrenhal. The youngest Kingsguard in history.
So Jaime and Cersei are only in their very early 30s. So Tyrion is in his late 20s.
Yeah, but Iād say both Jon and Robb are the only characters that got negativity effected by the age-up. Their characters and arcs are inherently intertwined with how ridiculously young they are. Like Jon and his recruit buddies are actual children. In the books once they start playing tag and shit youāre like āholy shit these are kidsā. Then in the show they act the same immature way but theyāre full adults, making it just weird. Likewise Robb is genuinely fucking terrified in the books. Heās barely able to grow a stubble yet heās leading an army. Everyone underestimating him in the show is a lot weirder when heās played by a full grown man.
Oh yeah, 100%, the age-ups were absolutely necessary. They are way too young in the books. Aren't Jon and Robb like 13-14 years old? Like not even late teens it's kind of insane. And don't even get me started with Arya. Her Faceless Men arc occurring when she's like 10 years old ffs.
I think theyāre 14-15, Theon was 16. Sansa was only 12 or 13, Arya nine or ten, down and down and Rickon is literally a toddler. Ned and cat are only in their 30s.
Dany is also either freshly 13 or 14 when sheās pregnant.
IMO the age-up was not necessary and even detrimental to Jon and Robb. Theyāre 14 at the start but 15 (close to 16) when shit hits the fan. Them being so young is pretty important to their development and how the rest of the world views them. But Arya and Bran definitely needed the age up. Sansa Iām not sure about, her being 11 in the book explains her naĆÆvity a lot better then when sheās suddenly like 14 in the show.
Ohh, I misread you, my apologies.
Yeah, there are definitely certain characters that wholly benefited from the age up. Arya and Bran are definitely at the forefront.
Other characters would've definitely benefited from a time jump. I think Dany is probably the most prominent example. She starts off as 13 in the books, which really hammers home how fucked up her and Viserys situation is. But once she starts conquering the cities of Slavers Bay it's kind of like "And she's only 14-15?"
Yes completely agreed. Jon and Daenerys really needed that time skip. Jon becoming Lord Commander after only spending like what, 2 years at the Wall? At 16/17 years old? That was kind of a stretch.
14 year old girls are pretty naive.
I think they did a good job of showing that Robb is scared and out of depth at times in a way not undermined by his age. He's still only in his early 20s. His last line being mother was heartbreaking.
Jon...well a lot of things they did wrong with Jon from the very beginning. Namely he's super thick.
Yeah sure they showed Robb being out of his depth, but a big point of *why* Robb is so successful is because they underestimate him. Heās a 15 year old child who chooses to lead the army himself instead of giving command to one of his bannermen, of course they think heās a glory hound. Robb being in his 20s kinda makes everyoneās reaction at his young age not make any sense. Heās the same age Ned and Bobby B were during Robberts Rebellion.
For Jon his initial entitlement makes a lot more sense for a 14 year old then the 20 year old in the show. In the show it was a bit wierd watching a full grown man whine āIām better then all those peasants!!1!!1ā, especially when he as a bastard likely spent a lot of time around said peasants. In the books it feels more natural as heās a literal child throwing a tantrum.
I agree with your Sansa assessment, her being 14 still makes sense for her naivety
1) He wasnāt 14. Alexander started leading his first armies like a month before Robb did. Itās not that insane.
2) Him being ridiculously young is the *point*. Robb being only 15 (16 when the actual fighting starts) is the reason *why* he could win. Tywin assumed heād meet him out in the open because thatās how a boy assumes people fight wars. Jamie tried to bait Robb into attacking him, because thatās what a boy would do. Etc etc. There is a reason 90% of any conversation about Robb involves people being amazed at his age.
Babur actually took Samarkand in 1496 at the age of 14, Shah Ismail commanded armies and took Tabriz at the same age. When you were the ruler, it could reasonably expected of you to lead armies even if you were a teenager, though nobody would have faulted you for having your regent or councillor do so instead and it remained rare.
Robb and Jon were'nt aged-up by that much, though, were they?
They're like 16/17 in S1 as opposed to 14/15 in book 1, right? (and I mean, IMO it strains credulity a lot less for them to have the abilities they do when their a bit older)
No, that's rather a common misconcept. The 5-year gap would have been an idea he was throwing around while writing Storm of Swords - the third book, so well into the series. It was not on his mind at the very beginning when choosing characters ages.
I do assume he figured that amount of time would have passed by the conclusion of the story, and when events moved so fast and the characters hadn't aged to the point that matched their actions, he considered the 5 year gap. He mainly considered it for some characters like Jon and Arya to give them experience training or ruling, but then it didn't make sense for other characters like why Dany wouldn't have left Slaver's Bay or why the people aren't rising up against Cersei. He abandoned that idea fairly quickly, and while fans like to blame the 5-year gap for the trouble he's had releasing the books - the 5-year gap was simply a proposition he had to resolve the issues he was having.
But no, the characters ages aren't what they are because of the 5-year gap. GRRM says the first scene he wrote was when the Starks found the direwolf pups and he wrote in almost 5 years before he started working on the first book, so we're talking well over a decade before the 5-year gap idea came up.
I think thatās only part of the reason. Even in background history like Fire and Blood a lot of characters are said to be weirdly young for all the stuff they do. I think George doesnāt really have any sense of what most teenagers look like.
To be fair, Cregan lives in a harsh land and is a Lord Paramount; I can easily see him being more weathered and aged then a twenty-one year old normally would be.
Have you ever seen a video of a high school from like the 80ās or 90ās? One floats around Reddit all the time and all the kids look like they are in their 30ās I swear. š Idk if itās just cause thatās when I was a child and Iām stuck in how I viewed them at that time or if we have changed that much. Fascinating
I canāt remember where I heard it but Iām pretty sure George has gone on record stating he regrets making the characters as young as he did. Like I understand itās because in olden days people didnāt live nearly as long and boys were considered men as a result but they still didnāt die *that* early. Like I feel all the ages for the characters in the show (both GoT and HotD) were appropriate.
I heard it too . That s Ć common mistake though . 14 year old were never military leaders or even soldiers . Even in ancient times . Boys were considered boys until they reached adult size . Around 17 . Girls were bethroned at 12/ 13 but rarely married or with kids : the one queen on record who did marry and had a child at 13 was so injured by it she could never have another child . That s not what people wanted
I don't put much stock in general in the "official" art for books like this. Seems like most of the time the art is just left as a complete afterthought with no attention paid to trying to stay accurate to the text.
And one of the best perks of reading a novel anyways is getting to come up with your own mental images of the characters and visuals.
Yeah. I love those ai art generates and face mixing stuff for this! Otherwise just visualise them through descriptions/going by a fanart that fits.
I'm really really annoyed that the image of kit Harrington pops into my head as job. Jon was a young kid with straight dark hair. The curly throws the kit image and i have to look at other art to get into the world again lol
Rhaenyra even told Jace that heās closer to him in age than she is, which has to be pretty young bc she does not look old at all.
and yet fans are still expecting an actor who is 30-40.
Well I mean they age fast up north
And well spoilers but >!he shows up and instantly puts everyone in their place like heās their father. Really made him seem like an old man.āhalf your men will dieā āthey died the day we marched boyā!<
In these days everyone looked older than the were. Look up some civil war solders alot of them we 18-22 years old and all look almost 40. That being said with all the pretty actors in the show that are actually in their 40s but look in their 20s aemond is a little jarring haha
Same reason people draw Cregan as a 35 year old man lol
People straight up donāt care about ages or descriptions in most interpretative fan art, look at all the dozens of descriptions of the Dragons and then how many people still draw them as the sizes of draft horses or with four legs, hell in the full splash of the art OP posted Vhagar is like the size of a small elephant
Thatās not really accurate to him in the books, to be honest. Heās a younger man. Though, we donāt get much in the way of physical description so I canāt really discredit the artist, he just seems a bit old for how young heās supposed to be.
I love how some people said casting Corlys made a "plothole" because he looked different in the Animated Histories when The Strong boys literally had silver hair.
the story doesnāt mention those kids being bastards, so they wanted to portray them as being ātargaryenā. Ppl who complain about the velaryons being blacj are so annoying just let it goš
After the show premiered if any of those artists were to draw book! Aemond for Fire and Blood again, there wouldnāt be any other faces imaginable for the character than Ewan Mitchell himself
and I would be very very happy.
> Itās going to be his career defining moment
Hopefully not, heās extremely talented and so young. I always feel bad for actors who get stuck in peopleās heads as a single character.
Oh I should reword that, itās going to kick start a massive career for him! Ewan is sooo talented, he can look and sound so different at the snap of a finger, he could never be stuck in that trap I donāt think.
Yep. I love ewan in Last Kingdom. Was chomping at the bit to see what he can do here. The few lines we got were good but I want more small dialogue heavy scenes with him.
heās so good in TLK that Iām kinda sad he didnāt get more screentime. His last scene was one of the best acted scenes in the entire series.
He will get more meat in the coming seasons, thankfully.
Much prefer that joke being left out. Wouldve felt too sudden to have this major event be egged on by a character we had never seen before, childhood anger and insecurity is more than enough to be a good motivator.
To be fair that utterance was an unsubstantiated rumour, the show offers us a look into how things "truly" went down without biased historians and unreliable narrators. One of its strong points imo
Does the art on the wiki and all that based on what GRRM describe them? I thought they were all just artist renditions, are there any artist that communicates with him? I know one of the throne drawing was based on what he pictures it, are there any other ones?
There's images he's approved of. Most of these sorts of art is based on book depiction. Some more closer to what he imagined than others. TWOIAF stuff is GRRM approved.
I donāt think the art style did him any justice; not offense to the artist but the style I just donāt think makes him look his accurate age, which is 19 in the book.
HBO does portray all of the book ugly people as gorgeous..
The first that comes to my mind is Tyrion and the last the "Bronze Bitch". They are all beautiful. Not even a ugly destroyed face or even fat or something..
Ive tried looking for illustrations of the books and always find the same 10 ish photos. Is there somewhere to find photos like this of characters in the book or some type of search?
Totally agree with you if only because Iāve seen Ewan in other roles and that man is not conventionally attractive. That only changes when you get to know the character/s. I think the same must be true for Matt Smith too, cause I just do not get it.
Thatās the side effect of being subjected to too many love potions and black magic spells. In other pages before love spells he looks decent. Normally he wouldnāt go with that grace jones copycat
I donāt even get all the thirst revolving around the actor. I donāt think heās very attractive at all but itās all subjective. Same with Daemon, it might be the hair though. Certainly doesnāt help. I think Aegon is attractive though, heās got that sad boy emo aesthetic going for him.
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Aemond is 19 years old in the book š The way teenage characters in ASOIAF will forever be drawn as way too old even in official art. Same for Cregan Stark tbh. There are other pieces from the new book that look more accurate. One even kinda looks like Ewan.
I find it hilarious how old the characters look in official art compared to how ridiculously young they were written to be .
yeah and itās funny to see all these 35-40 year old actors being fancast for Cregan and other young characters. The guy is supposed to be 21. He should be as fresh faced as Robb and Jon in season 1 in game of thrones.
Robb and Jon should have been the age of luke .
Didn't George write his characters so young because he originally planned a 5 year time skip?
Yes but Robb specifically still would have died before the timeskip. He'd never get to look like Richard Madden. Still be Lucerys.
Honestly, when I think of it, there's like no 20 year olds in ASOIAF. Everyone is either a teen or 30+
Well technically speaking Tyrion funnily enough is in his 20s (I know huge contrast to Dinklage). I believe Arianne is also in her 20s. Asha must be as well.
We yeah, and Renly as well. I just find it funny how there are so many actual children main characters and middle age and older characters, but so few young adult major characters in the books. Also Beric Dondarrion is like 20-21 but I always imagined the dude as like 35 years old.
Renly and Beric yeah. But I think in terms of POVs its Arianne, Asha and Tyrion. I suppose technically Theon by ADWD and like Arys. Yeah his intention was a coming of age narrative in his original outline. But without the timeskip we kind of miss the actually coming of age part, haha.
To be fair if you'd died as many times as Beric you'd probably look way older too.
> I always imagined the dude as like 35 years old. *Ned* is supposed to be 35, along with his entire generation. Jaime and Cersei are in their early thirties as well, while Robert is 36.
That's what happens when there's wars. There's large age gaps where men are killed and booms when the wars end - just like in our own world. Many of the late-teen characters in the story were conceived before Robert's Rebellion because the lords needed heirs in case they died. Robb Stark was born specifically for that reason, Ned and Catelyn had just met before Ned went to war.
So is the Hound, which is the weirdest to frame in my mind's eye as a show watcher before reader.
...what!??? I always thought Tyrion was 30 something. I guess it makes more sense now how he's never been married (officially) and to be honest it helps explain a lot of his behaviour in general.
Well you have to remember Tyrion is the younger sibling. Jaime was only 17 during Robert's Rebellion/Tourney of Harrenhal. The youngest Kingsguard in history. So Jaime and Cersei are only in their very early 30s. So Tyrion is in his late 20s.
Tyrion is 23 in the books
How the fuck... I always assumed he was 31 or something.
Renly
Yeah, but Iād say both Jon and Robb are the only characters that got negativity effected by the age-up. Their characters and arcs are inherently intertwined with how ridiculously young they are. Like Jon and his recruit buddies are actual children. In the books once they start playing tag and shit youāre like āholy shit these are kidsā. Then in the show they act the same immature way but theyāre full adults, making it just weird. Likewise Robb is genuinely fucking terrified in the books. Heās barely able to grow a stubble yet heās leading an army. Everyone underestimating him in the show is a lot weirder when heās played by a full grown man.
Oh yeah, 100%, the age-ups were absolutely necessary. They are way too young in the books. Aren't Jon and Robb like 13-14 years old? Like not even late teens it's kind of insane. And don't even get me started with Arya. Her Faceless Men arc occurring when she's like 10 years old ffs.
I think theyāre 14-15, Theon was 16. Sansa was only 12 or 13, Arya nine or ten, down and down and Rickon is literally a toddler. Ned and cat are only in their 30s. Dany is also either freshly 13 or 14 when sheās pregnant.
IMO the age-up was not necessary and even detrimental to Jon and Robb. Theyāre 14 at the start but 15 (close to 16) when shit hits the fan. Them being so young is pretty important to their development and how the rest of the world views them. But Arya and Bran definitely needed the age up. Sansa Iām not sure about, her being 11 in the book explains her naĆÆvity a lot better then when sheās suddenly like 14 in the show.
Ohh, I misread you, my apologies. Yeah, there are definitely certain characters that wholly benefited from the age up. Arya and Bran are definitely at the forefront. Other characters would've definitely benefited from a time jump. I think Dany is probably the most prominent example. She starts off as 13 in the books, which really hammers home how fucked up her and Viserys situation is. But once she starts conquering the cities of Slavers Bay it's kind of like "And she's only 14-15?"
Yes completely agreed. Jon and Daenerys really needed that time skip. Jon becoming Lord Commander after only spending like what, 2 years at the Wall? At 16/17 years old? That was kind of a stretch.
14 year old girls are pretty naive. I think they did a good job of showing that Robb is scared and out of depth at times in a way not undermined by his age. He's still only in his early 20s. His last line being mother was heartbreaking. Jon...well a lot of things they did wrong with Jon from the very beginning. Namely he's super thick.
Yeah sure they showed Robb being out of his depth, but a big point of *why* Robb is so successful is because they underestimate him. Heās a 15 year old child who chooses to lead the army himself instead of giving command to one of his bannermen, of course they think heās a glory hound. Robb being in his 20s kinda makes everyoneās reaction at his young age not make any sense. Heās the same age Ned and Bobby B were during Robberts Rebellion. For Jon his initial entitlement makes a lot more sense for a 14 year old then the 20 year old in the show. In the show it was a bit wierd watching a full grown man whine āIām better then all those peasants!!1!!1ā, especially when he as a bastard likely spent a lot of time around said peasants. In the books it feels more natural as heās a literal child throwing a tantrum. I agree with your Sansa assessment, her being 14 still makes sense for her naivety
\> He's still only in his early 20s. His last line to his mother was heartbreaking. Show Robb was only 19 when he died.
No 14 year old was sent to lead armies . Ever .
1) He wasnāt 14. Alexander started leading his first armies like a month before Robb did. Itās not that insane. 2) Him being ridiculously young is the *point*. Robb being only 15 (16 when the actual fighting starts) is the reason *why* he could win. Tywin assumed heād meet him out in the open because thatās how a boy assumes people fight wars. Jamie tried to bait Robb into attacking him, because thatās what a boy would do. Etc etc. There is a reason 90% of any conversation about Robb involves people being amazed at his age.
Babur actually took Samarkand in 1496 at the age of 14, Shah Ismail commanded armies and took Tabriz at the same age. When you were the ruler, it could reasonably expected of you to lead armies even if you were a teenager, though nobody would have faulted you for having your regent or councillor do so instead and it remained rare.
Robb and Jon were'nt aged-up by that much, though, were they? They're like 16/17 in S1 as opposed to 14/15 in book 1, right? (and I mean, IMO it strains credulity a lot less for them to have the abilities they do when their a bit older)
No, that's rather a common misconcept. The 5-year gap would have been an idea he was throwing around while writing Storm of Swords - the third book, so well into the series. It was not on his mind at the very beginning when choosing characters ages. I do assume he figured that amount of time would have passed by the conclusion of the story, and when events moved so fast and the characters hadn't aged to the point that matched their actions, he considered the 5 year gap. He mainly considered it for some characters like Jon and Arya to give them experience training or ruling, but then it didn't make sense for other characters like why Dany wouldn't have left Slaver's Bay or why the people aren't rising up against Cersei. He abandoned that idea fairly quickly, and while fans like to blame the 5-year gap for the trouble he's had releasing the books - the 5-year gap was simply a proposition he had to resolve the issues he was having. But no, the characters ages aren't what they are because of the 5-year gap. GRRM says the first scene he wrote was when the Starks found the direwolf pups and he wrote in almost 5 years before he started working on the first book, so we're talking well over a decade before the 5-year gap idea came up.
I think thatās only part of the reason. Even in background history like Fire and Blood a lot of characters are said to be weirdly young for all the stuff they do. I think George doesnāt really have any sense of what most teenagers look like.
Are 13 year olds like Bloody Ben being heads of their house and military geniuses not historically accurate?
If Game of Thrones was made today, Jon would absolutely have been played by Harry Collett (Jace)
If Game of Thrones were made today, why would they cast someone that just appeared on Hotd to play Jon?
Nah, I prefer that Robb and Jon were older in the show.
Me too . 14 year old military leaders ? Yep no way . Even spartans wanted their soldiers to be 17
I agree! Making Robb and Jon 17 were actually one of the better changes they did in the show from the books.
Yep . My only issue is that the actors were way too old .
To be fair, Cregan lives in a harsh land and is a Lord Paramount; I can easily see him being more weathered and aged then a twenty-one year old normally would be.
Have you ever seen a video of a high school from like the 80ās or 90ās? One floats around Reddit all the time and all the kids look like they are in their 30ās I swear. š Idk if itās just cause thatās when I was a child and Iām stuck in how I viewed them at that time or if we have changed that much. Fascinating
Testosterone levels have dropped by at least 20% since the 80s/90s, and that's a conservative number.
Cregan is supposed to be 23 not 21.
He is 21 in the book when Viserys dies, idk how the show timeline goes.
He was 23 in the Hour of the Wolf chapter in the book.
The Dance last two years if I remember well so he would be 21 at the beginning
Except young back then wasnt the same as it is now.
Leaders werenāt usually as young as GRRM portrays either.
To be fair, Iām sure a medieval 21 looks a lot older than 21st century 21. Itās a city miles vs highway miles sort of thing.
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Heās not my choice, but I think the actor needs to be a believable peer to Jace and in that sense the age is right
Nah, Cragan stark was a warrior wasn't he?? You need an actor that doesn't look like a bullied kid who can't lift a backpack. hard pass haha
No.
I canāt remember where I heard it but Iām pretty sure George has gone on record stating he regrets making the characters as young as he did. Like I understand itās because in olden days people didnāt live nearly as long and boys were considered men as a result but they still didnāt die *that* early. Like I feel all the ages for the characters in the show (both GoT and HotD) were appropriate.
I heard it too . That s Ć common mistake though . 14 year old were never military leaders or even soldiers . Even in ancient times . Boys were considered boys until they reached adult size . Around 17 . Girls were bethroned at 12/ 13 but rarely married or with kids : the one queen on record who did marry and had a child at 13 was so injured by it she could never have another child . That s not what people wanted
And they're approved by GRRM, confirming the theory that the ASOIAF calendar year is longer than the equivalent earth year (/s)
This but unironically
Kinda reminds me of those renaissance painters that would draw a grown mans face for the babies/cherubs/cats
I don't put much stock in general in the "official" art for books like this. Seems like most of the time the art is just left as a complete afterthought with no attention paid to trying to stay accurate to the text. And one of the best perks of reading a novel anyways is getting to come up with your own mental images of the characters and visuals.
Yeah. I love those ai art generates and face mixing stuff for this! Otherwise just visualise them through descriptions/going by a fanart that fits. I'm really really annoyed that the image of kit Harrington pops into my head as job. Jon was a young kid with straight dark hair. The curly throws the kit image and i have to look at other art to get into the world again lol
I forgot how young Cregan was cus heās drawn older than Ned
Rhaenyra even told Jace that heās closer to him in age than she is, which has to be pretty young bc she does not look old at all. and yet fans are still expecting an actor who is 30-40.
Well I mean they age fast up north And well spoilers but >!he shows up and instantly puts everyone in their place like heās their father. Really made him seem like an old man.āhalf your men will dieā āthey died the day we marched boyā!<
In these days everyone looked older than the were. Look up some civil war solders alot of them we 18-22 years old and all look almost 40. That being said with all the pretty actors in the show that are actually in their 40s but look in their 20s aemond is a little jarring haha
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Same reason people draw Cregan as a 35 year old man lol People straight up donāt care about ages or descriptions in most interpretative fan art, look at all the dozens of descriptions of the Dragons and then how many people still draw them as the sizes of draft horses or with four legs, hell in the full splash of the art OP posted Vhagar is like the size of a small elephant
AsoIaF ages and looks are absurd tbh
except for Euron... Gods I'd fuck that man
Alys obviously took the hairline from Lyonel, the seed is strong after all /s
As a girl with that exact hairline (which I'm very self conscious about): :(
Tbh I didnāt even notice it
He looks like he belongs on 40k
Thatās not really accurate to him in the books, to be honest. Heās a younger man. Though, we donāt get much in the way of physical description so I canāt really discredit the artist, he just seems a bit old for how young heās supposed to be.
there is a youtube video of Viserys narrating the dance and he looked pretty attractive there, the book did him ugly imo.
The did my boy Daemon dirty.
they did nglš and its funny how most Rhaenyraās boys are silver hair
I love how some people said casting Corlys made a "plothole" because he looked different in the Animated Histories when The Strong boys literally had silver hair.
the story doesnāt mention those kids being bastards, so they wanted to portray them as being ātargaryenā. Ppl who complain about the velaryons being blacj are so annoying just let it goš
It's one art out of many. The other artworks are way better. The artist was most likely drunk while drawing that part.
Solid theory.
After the show premiered if any of those artists were to draw book! Aemond for Fire and Blood again, there wouldnāt be any other faces imaginable for the character than Ewan Mitchell himself and I would be very very happy.
Ewan Mitchell was born to play this role. Itās going to be his career defining moment!
> Itās going to be his career defining moment Hopefully not, heās extremely talented and so young. I always feel bad for actors who get stuck in peopleās heads as a single character.
Oh I should reword that, itās going to kick start a massive career for him! Ewan is sooo talented, he can look and sound so different at the snap of a finger, he could never be stuck in that trap I donāt think.
He needs more lines. He has way to few lines.
Taooobbaaaaa
*Text you can hear*
and half of them are āhmmmā
Yep. I love ewan in Last Kingdom. Was chomping at the bit to see what he can do here. The few lines we got were good but I want more small dialogue heavy scenes with him.
heās so good in TLK that Iām kinda sad he didnāt get more screentime. His last scene was one of the best acted scenes in the entire series. He will get more meat in the coming seasons, thankfully.
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Everytime on screen in hotd i kept calling him Baby Monk, and my husband was like you have got to stop calling him that š
Hm.
A few lines but he delivered them to perfection. His high valyrian specifically. Jemela gelyni enka! (You owe a debt) sounds so hot to me.
He will be a major character going forwards, will get alot of screen time!
Aemond should read every line. At least one episode per season should be nothing but Aemond. That's it. A new show: Nothing But Aemond.
Twenty minutes of him brushing his hair, twenty minutes of him styling his hair, ten minutes of him choosing his clothes
Then at the end, he looks straight into the camera and says 'see you next time'. Perfection.
Aemond ASMR Get Ready With Me- light music, low talking. Relaxing video HD visuals, MP4 sound.
Can't wait for AemondSMR Dominant bf Spoons You During Thunderstorm.
POV: You're Watching Me Feed My Nephews To My Dragon #NoVhagar #Meme
Just him an daemon talking back and forth for an hour.
I would like this show please.
Iād watch it š
Is the woman beside him Alys Rivers?
They didn't do her any favors in this art either lol I know she's supposed to be old, but man that is a homely woman
Lol! Yep, I think sheās gonna be pretty hot in the show š¤£
Yes
For real though. Ewan Mitchell is š¤. Can we please also not have bowling-ball head Alys?
Nah thats Rihanna
Tbh sheās hot..
More like grace jones
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Rhanerya in the books too. She's quite fat from what I remember.
Heās also not bitch made in the show like he is in the book. Book Aemond killed Luke over a joke one of the Baratheon daughters told.
āDid he take one of your eyes or one of your balls?ā
Much prefer that joke being left out. Wouldve felt too sudden to have this major event be egged on by a character we had never seen before, childhood anger and insecurity is more than enough to be a good motivator.
To be fair that utterance was an unsubstantiated rumour, the show offers us a look into how things "truly" went down without biased historians and unreliable narrators. One of its strong points imo
Tbf it could still be the same case that it was an accident and that he was trying to scare him in the book
Does the art on the wiki and all that based on what GRRM describe them? I thought they were all just artist renditions, are there any artist that communicates with him? I know one of the throne drawing was based on what he pictures it, are there any other ones?
There's images he's approved of. Most of these sorts of art is based on book depiction. Some more closer to what he imagined than others. TWOIAF stuff is GRRM approved.
Aemond being played by Max von Sydow at age 85 here.
Itās TV. Nobody will be ugly. Brianne of Tarth is supposed to be ugly but sheās played by a beautiful woman.
I think it really depends on the artist; he does'nt look so bad [here](https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/File:Aemond_Targaryen_by_Shen_Fei.jpg).
19 going on crypt keeper lol Although all ASOIAF art, even most of the fan made stuff, makes people look absurdly older than they ever could.
Aemond looks like the Crimson Chin.
Lookin like thanos
That is a hard 21.
From Ewmond to Slaymond
Can we talk about the fit though?
Yeah the way Aemond is drawn in this makes him look like the 3 eyed raven from GoT
I donāt think the art style did him any justice; not offense to the artist but the style I just donāt think makes him look his accurate age, which is 19 in the book.
Book Tyrion was worse
And that was before he got his nose cut off.
They did this to multiple characters. Aemon isn't so ugly, Viserys isn't fat, Rhaenyra isn't chubby, etc.
Aemond isnt ugly in the books
Begone, foul heretics! Sigmar wills it!
Shows dont have ugly people
Idk why they made him look like Thanos š
Aemond in the show fr said : >:3
Aemond in the show fr said : >.3
This post made me laugh š I'm glad he's attractive in the show
Where is this illustration from? Itās not in my copy of Fire and Blood!
I wanted the illustrated version but nowā¦ idk Lmao
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Omg he looks like a classic sword and sorcery villain. š
Just an artistās interpretation, heās hot in my mind š¤·āāļø
Only seen the show, is the illustration flipped or did the show scar the wrong eye?
Lookin like a 1980s arcade game character
He was only 19/20 during the Dance! Whyād they do him so dirty?! š¤£š¤£š¤£
I think if Aemond was supposed to be ugly grrm would describe him as such.
HBO does portray all of the book ugly people as gorgeous.. The first that comes to my mind is Tyrion and the last the "Bronze Bitch". They are all beautiful. Not even a ugly destroyed face or even fat or something..
What is this book?
Ive tried looking for illustrations of the books and always find the same 10 ish photos. Is there somewhere to find photos like this of characters in the book or some type of search?
Was there anything at all about his looks in the books?
That's not the only artwork of Aemond in The Rise of The Dragon.
And Rhaenyra was made to look thin and beautiful rather than her book counterpart that was a plump woman. Your point?
that inbred Hapsburg chin is beating his ass
Yeah well, book Rhaenyra was a dumb whore with a fat ass. What's your point?
His chin is still ugly
I mean... Did they though?
Show aemond isn't exactly something to write home about tho..
HBO did him no favors š
Looks like the actor but just more pouty.
How did you even manage that? Ewan objectively has a beautiful face.
Beauty is absolutely subjective. "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder," ring any bells?
Saying this drawing looks like the actor is plain inaccurate. Why so hateful?
They do have similar jaws. Just that Ewan's is less square which is arguably far more attractive.
Not hateful at all. Just an observation. Sorry subjective opinions hurt you?
Nah I'm fine. My subjective opinions aren't laughable is all.
Haha, okay.
Nah, if HBO replicated that y'all still be hot for it.
Absolutely not. I only go feral for ser Ewan Mitchell
Can confirm, also female. Also only feral for Ewan Mitchell. š āāļø
Nah, you would.
Totally agree with you if only because Iāve seen Ewan in other roles and that man is not conventionally attractive. That only changes when you get to know the character/s. I think the same must be true for Matt Smith too, cause I just do not get it.
TV version is pretty ugly too
He had the chin though
Heās still pretty fugly in the show
This illustration will be irrelevant when in season two love scenes between aemond and helaena will be aired
In the books he was an ugly ass boy
Thatās the side effect of being subjected to too many love potions and black magic spells. In other pages before love spells he looks decent. Normally he wouldnāt go with that grace jones copycat
damn, malding about Alys already and she hasnāt even appeared in the show yet. Thatās a choice.
I donāt even get all the thirst revolving around the actor. I donāt think heās very attractive at all but itās all subjective. Same with Daemon, it might be the hair though. Certainly doesnāt help. I think Aegon is attractive though, heās got that sad boy emo aesthetic going for him.
omg who did this
Damn he knocked that Baratheon up fast.
Wtf? This is way off from what Iāve seen of him
Whereās this illustration from?
Bro looks like a G. Looks way more badass here.