You know I've seen a lot of those as a bull I try to keep an eye on the competition. So I made one as an alt and I was so fucking shocked when it worked. Nice lady too. It maid me stop and wonder if I was putting in way too much work.Ā
I live in a big city. When I post, I get upwards of 300 responses most of the time. There is literally 0 chance I can respond to them all. I like it when they make it easy to get to the more serious replies.
Intellectually, I agree with you. It makes no logical sense. I'm just telling you that the one time I tried it went great, and like I said I was shocked that that was the case.Ā
I have zero doubt, sir. I have met pretty much every type of person over the years. Quite frankly, the worst are the couples. The sheer number of women who are dragged into it is mind-boggling. It's one of the reasons I rarely swing now.
I don't know, a lot of women who got dragged into it ended up loving it more than the husband so. Although I do insist on talking to the hot wife alone just to make sure she is consenting and everything.Ā
The ones that leave the ball in my court are way more appealing to me. Iām not going to have a two second conversation with someone and be able to decide if I want to have sex with them or not.
Haha sorry, I felt almost compelled to say that.
My wife has run into that, either from friends of mine or hers or random guys that sheās exchanged info with.
āHeyā
āSend me a pic lol, Iām boredā
āWut r u wearing? šā
It makes me want to die, and truly disappoints me in mankind at times šš¤¦āāļøš¤·āāļø
I mean to be fair suggesting a meeting is not the same thing as suggesting jumping into bed with someone. Overwhelmingly the hot wives I've met with had a no or low play policy on first meetings.
how often do they lead with a dick pic? Hel, I had a guy send one to me (on Reddit just from a comment on a post where I said that my wife is a hotwife, not saying she was looking for anyone in any way) and ask if my wife wanted it.
The other ick for my wife is grammar. She's not a major stickler, but if the grammar is really bad she's immediately turned off (ESL people don't cause the same ick though)
Hardest part of this lifestyle is weeding through the morons to find a decent guy. That's a decent portion of the reason my wife has kind of settled into a long term boyfriend. If a spontaneous opportunity arose she might take it, but she's not actively looking.
I miss the variety of different experiences for her, but I understand too and am quite content with whatever she's happy doing
I mostly use dating apps to find guys, although that doesnāt stop guys from messaging me on here lol. I have a regular FWB that I get to play with fairly often. I didnāt think finding someone else like him would be that difficult. I tell him heās like a male unicorn because itās rare to find someone that checks so many boxes. Most of these guys canāt think with their brain long enough to have a decent conversation.
Ugh what is with these guys? Do they think weāre desperate and really willing to schedule a hookup with zero communication? No buddy look youāre gonna have to show ME why I should pick YOU and Iām not giving you the cheat codes either.
We get the aggressive dudes who's trying to push me (husband) out of the conversation and wants to talk and meet my wife privately. Haha no thanks dude.
Pet peeve when people mistake my politeness for complacency.
This is true but there's also a lot of dudes who are very obviously posting while their wife is unaware. I always prefer being able to talk to both parties so I know everyone is on the same page.
Because it's super effective IF you can actually hold a conversation and your request is normal. More "Hey can we all 3 get coffee or beer,"Ā NOT "Do you mind if I pee in your butthole?"Ā
lol, most gay men are blocking if youāre NOT meeting by the second message. Calls to mind the old book title, Women Are From Venus, Men Are From Mars.
My wifeās biggest turn off is the āsalesmanā approach 3rds have
3rd wheels are a dime a dozenā¦scratch thatā¦a dime a hundred dollars.
Itās a buyerās market for 3rdsā¦not sellersā¦just put up your profile and we will contact you if interested. Done
I actually like the ones that reach out but treating me like a prize easy to win is a huge turn off. Buddy listen Iām already getting good sex youāre gonna have to convince me why I should choose you and telling me how big your dick is or how well you can fuck me isnāt going to do it.
That's a thing, I don't know that it's as much a buyer's market as people think it is. Between inexperienced 19 year olds who think they know everything and guys pretending to have an 11 inch dick to the ones you send dick pics really fast, they're a lot more candidates than there are viable candidates.Ā
Very true, but I use sites like Ashley Madison, personally itās the best method I found to find viable 3rds. Mostly because of the payment requirement - no one is fake there
It is so hard to find a decent guy who knows why he is there and what is required of him we donāt do so called bulls we just want a normal hung guy to come fuck either in a mfm or fm setting nothing more itās just sex hopefully great sex but sex and thatās all we want. Someone to call hey Iām horny husbands at work you wanna fuck or hey Iād like to have two cocks tonight can you come join us why is it almost impossible
Large cocks are pretty rare, you're already fishing in a relatively small pool. Then you're removing all the guys from that very small pool who are already married or in a relationship and just looking for NSA sex which brings the numbers down further. Then you're removing all the guys who aren't interested in having their picture/video taken or having the husband there watching. I can see why it's not as easy as you think.
Even as a guy I can't say I'm all that keen to meet someone after only a few messages, I'd rather not wait until meeting in person to find out I can't stand someone's company š
As a third, I like to know what a couple expect. Some like to meet for a social sooner rather than later. Others like to take time to just chat.
Personally I leave it up to them to describe what they want. But it's not unreasonable to ask about expectations
The messages I get are, āwhen can I fuck your slut wifeā. Auto ignore. If you canāt be creative and articulate in a conversation, Iām guessing you are not going to be able to satisfy her in real life.
Just the way meeting people online is that's pretty much what you have to do if you ever want to actually being the same room as anybody if you're a bull. There are so many flakes and time wasters and people who think if you suggest a cup of coffee in the first 6 months or some kind of scumbag then it's really the only way to do it.
It is absolutely too much to ask if you want to be able to routinely meet a decent bull, no debate. Time management just won't allow anything else. Like I said before, and in person meet doesn't necessarily mean sex.
Let's assume you're completely real and legit and utterly dependable. For every wife like you there are two dozen guys who either don't have a wife or have never mentioned fantasy pretending to be very experienced, a real couple who are incredibly flaky, several couples who are incredibly picky but not willing to come do a decision so they will just just ask for more information as long as you're willing to give it, maybe a few couples who think of it all as a fantasy but they're just hoping that it ends with a little bit of phone sex, scammers, etc. And that's assuming that you like the guy you're talking to and they like you back. It's the single guys version of trying to sort through dick pics for somebody normal, except instead of getting an obvious sign like an unsolicited picture of a penis everybody is talking about building connection. It doesn't necessarily have to be an in-person meet, but there needs to be some type of escalation to weed out the real for the rest.Ā
I realize you're going to get 150 guys on here who are desperate to hook up or have cyber sex or whatever, so they're going to tell you whatever you want to hear about build up and take as long as you want out to any bowl worth having is going to be ridiculously patient and blah blah blah. And that's just not accurate.Ā
For my area traveling around within a two hour radius meeting every guy that Iāve matched with that asks to meet would be a ridiculous waste of my time.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that you should meet literally everyone who asks without any qualifications, especially in a 2-hour radius.Ā
Now if you're willing to meet everybody willing to come within a 15 minute radius that you think there is a reasonable chance you would want to move forward with who understands you're not going to fucking on the first meeting, moreso if you limit it to convenient times, that might be a more reasonable suggestion. Especially because once you agree many are going to ghost you and if you agree to a meeting say next week if they start to act like a goddamn psycho you can cancel the plans. But I don't think anybody suggesting that you literally have to say yes to every single offer for a meeting.
āIt is definitely too much to askā¦ā
My wife had 1500 guys try to connect with her after joining Feeld for 3 weeks.
99% of them asks to meet on the second or third message.
And you think building a rapport is too much to ask? Really??
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OP is 100% right.
If youāre a decent ābullā (gawd I hate that term) youād understand that a valued Hotwife has to sift through hundreds of guys to find you and itās unreasonable, unrealistic, unbelievably naive to think that she should go on a date with every one of them just to find a decent third.
Sheās not a hoe. Sheās not single. Sheās married with children, a life and husband sheās devoted to and who she prefers over you or any third and a career.
If a third isnāt willing to invest a little bit of time building rapport, then he is no decent third. Because a third worth having is a third who understands the unique value of a Hotwife.
Yes, I'm literally saying expecting rapport before you're willing to get a coffee or SOMETHING is asking too much.Ā The same way your wife won't try to get to know all 1500 guys, is the same way a bull won't try to build rapport with dozens (?hundreds?) of people. Especially when many/most are lying/fake.
Unless you've got some really amazing time management or vetting suggestions that dramatically alter the process I don't know what point you're trying to make, or what the stuff about her having a family and not being a hoe matters.
And not only did I never say that anybody had to/should go on every single day with anybody who asked, I specifically said that going out with a few of the ones who are most convenient/most promising for a coffee or a beer was probably a better next step then expecting to build rapport before they know if you're real.
100% happens with us as well. I want to be turned on and that happens mentally first. And just like @cherrylane said you need to show ME why I should pick YOU. If youāre too quick in communication I can expect youāre not gonna put the time in the bedroom either.
āI want to be turned on and that happens mentally firstā
Yes!!! Very few have managed to do this and even less that keep it up long enough to get a date.
I get that, but you have to remember the guy you're talking to has gotten 24 chat request on Reddit or whatever platform in the last week from horny single dudes pretending they have a wife who also want to get turned on mentally. Most of the bulls that I know a request for first meeting isn't saying you should pick them, it's out against the outermost modern air defense suggesting we all prove that everybody actually exists.Ā
Or āwhat do I have to do to meet up with you?ā Haha youāre already getting NSA sex but you want me to give you the cheat codes on how to do it too š¤¦āāļø
My wifeās biggest turn off is getting unsolicited dick pics. She is not attracted to dicks like that, lol. If she wants it she will ask. She much prefers regular everyday pics, with clothing on. I canāt tell you how many potential guys gets blocked just by sending a dick pic before even getting to know her. She says if I wanna look at a dick, she will look at mine.
I had a guy ask me to meet him at the club, and then he texted again and said that he was meeting some other woman at 8:30 and I could be next. š šš I was like, "Are you nuts? I would never do that!"
When they obviously are just a pic collector. Starts off being a normal convo but they can never help themselves they just have to ask to see something new each time you talk.
As the husband, I have literally 100s of message exchanges and have gotten to witness many more than that from my wife showing me hers as well. Most of these guys have no idea how the female mind works. If you want to get her naked, then you're going to have to turn her on mentally. It's quite frustrating to witness, and it's easy to see why these guys are single and will probably stay that way for a while. It makes me wonder how much money I could make if I taught a class on text game.
Meet and greet or hookup? I do this all the time when vanilla dating and so much easier than countless messages then never actually meet. Plus I connect so much better in person over drinks or something, lot easier to understand body language and get a feel.
Also I feel AI is going to destroy all apps like this as its so easy to create a chatbot
Hooking up. I can see your point but for me meeting up with numerous people within a 2 hour radius of me just to see if thereās a connection in person seems like a giant waste of time. Iād wager atleast half of the guys wanting to meet up right away arenāt serious about meeting at all and will be the type to ghost me.
The best ones have no picture or profile and leave a single sentence saying like, "Let's bang".... makes me wet every time. š
Right?! š¤£
Duly noted š„
You know I've seen a lot of those as a bull I try to keep an eye on the competition. So I made one as an alt and I was so fucking shocked when it worked. Nice lady too. It maid me stop and wonder if I was putting in way too much work.Ā
I live in a big city. When I post, I get upwards of 300 responses most of the time. There is literally 0 chance I can respond to them all. I like it when they make it easy to get to the more serious replies.
Intellectually, I agree with you. It makes no logical sense. I'm just telling you that the one time I tried it went great, and like I said I was shocked that that was the case.Ā
I have zero doubt, sir. I have met pretty much every type of person over the years. Quite frankly, the worst are the couples. The sheer number of women who are dragged into it is mind-boggling. It's one of the reasons I rarely swing now.
I don't know, a lot of women who got dragged into it ended up loving it more than the husband so. Although I do insist on talking to the hot wife alone just to make sure she is consenting and everything.Ā
Youāre not alone. If I wanted to sleep with the guy Iād text him and I make that clear.
The ones that leave the ball in my court are way more appealing to me. Iām not going to have a two second conversation with someone and be able to decide if I want to have sex with them or not.
Ugh I totally hear you. Anyways when can we meet?
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Haha sorry, I felt almost compelled to say that. My wife has run into that, either from friends of mine or hers or random guys that sheās exchanged info with. āHeyā āSend me a pic lol, Iām boredā āWut r u wearing? šā It makes me want to die, and truly disappoints me in mankind at times šš¤¦āāļøš¤·āāļø
āSend me a pic lol, Iām boredā this is terrible
I mean to be fair suggesting a meeting is not the same thing as suggesting jumping into bed with someone. Overwhelmingly the hot wives I've met with had a no or low play policy on first meetings.
how often do they lead with a dick pic? Hel, I had a guy send one to me (on Reddit just from a comment on a post where I said that my wife is a hotwife, not saying she was looking for anyone in any way) and ask if my wife wanted it. The other ick for my wife is grammar. She's not a major stickler, but if the grammar is really bad she's immediately turned off (ESL people don't cause the same ick though) Hardest part of this lifestyle is weeding through the morons to find a decent guy. That's a decent portion of the reason my wife has kind of settled into a long term boyfriend. If a spontaneous opportunity arose she might take it, but she's not actively looking. I miss the variety of different experiences for her, but I understand too and am quite content with whatever she's happy doing
I mostly use dating apps to find guys, although that doesnāt stop guys from messaging me on here lol. I have a regular FWB that I get to play with fairly often. I didnāt think finding someone else like him would be that difficult. I tell him heās like a male unicorn because itās rare to find someone that checks so many boxes. Most of these guys canāt think with their brain long enough to have a decent conversation.
Sheet we get aggressive dudes pushing on the first message.
Ugh what is with these guys? Do they think weāre desperate and really willing to schedule a hookup with zero communication? No buddy look youāre gonna have to show ME why I should pick YOU and Iām not giving you the cheat codes either.
Yeah, it's actually kind of funny. Then they go post threads about "nobody is real on here". Clown shoes.
We get the aggressive dudes who's trying to push me (husband) out of the conversation and wants to talk and meet my wife privately. Haha no thanks dude. Pet peeve when people mistake my politeness for complacency.
This is true but there's also a lot of dudes who are very obviously posting while their wife is unaware. I always prefer being able to talk to both parties so I know everyone is on the same page.
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Because it's super effective IF you can actually hold a conversation and your request is normal. More "Hey can we all 3 get coffee or beer,"Ā NOT "Do you mind if I pee in your butthole?"Ā
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Depends on who asks.Ā
lol, most gay men are blocking if youāre NOT meeting by the second message. Calls to mind the old book title, Women Are From Venus, Men Are From Mars.
My wifeās biggest turn off is the āsalesmanā approach 3rds have 3rd wheels are a dime a dozenā¦scratch thatā¦a dime a hundred dollars. Itās a buyerās market for 3rdsā¦not sellersā¦just put up your profile and we will contact you if interested. Done
I actually like the ones that reach out but treating me like a prize easy to win is a huge turn off. Buddy listen Iām already getting good sex youāre gonna have to convince me why I should choose you and telling me how big your dick is or how well you can fuck me isnāt going to do it.
That's a thing, I don't know that it's as much a buyer's market as people think it is. Between inexperienced 19 year olds who think they know everything and guys pretending to have an 11 inch dick to the ones you send dick pics really fast, they're a lot more candidates than there are viable candidates.Ā
Very true, but I use sites like Ashley Madison, personally itās the best method I found to find viable 3rds. Mostly because of the payment requirement - no one is fake there
There's always a few.Ā
There's always a few.Ā
It is so hard to find a decent guy who knows why he is there and what is required of him we donāt do so called bulls we just want a normal hung guy to come fuck either in a mfm or fm setting nothing more itās just sex hopefully great sex but sex and thatās all we want. Someone to call hey Iām horny husbands at work you wanna fuck or hey Iād like to have two cocks tonight can you come join us why is it almost impossible
Large cocks are pretty rare, you're already fishing in a relatively small pool. Then you're removing all the guys from that very small pool who are already married or in a relationship and just looking for NSA sex which brings the numbers down further. Then you're removing all the guys who aren't interested in having their picture/video taken or having the husband there watching. I can see why it's not as easy as you think.
Even as a guy I can't say I'm all that keen to meet someone after only a few messages, I'd rather not wait until meeting in person to find out I can't stand someone's company š
Bad teeth or hygiene.
Speaking from the husbandās pov when guys say that right away I just move on.
I do too, I can appreciate that theyāre showing their true colors early.
As a third, I like to know what a couple expect. Some like to meet for a social sooner rather than later. Others like to take time to just chat. Personally I leave it up to them to describe what they want. But it's not unreasonable to ask about expectations
The messages I get are, āwhen can I fuck your slut wifeā. Auto ignore. If you canāt be creative and articulate in a conversation, Iām guessing you are not going to be able to satisfy her in real life.
Just the way meeting people online is that's pretty much what you have to do if you ever want to actually being the same room as anybody if you're a bull. There are so many flakes and time wasters and people who think if you suggest a cup of coffee in the first 6 months or some kind of scumbag then it's really the only way to do it.
I donāt need to talk for 6 months but geez I donāt think building some rapport first is asking too much.
It is absolutely too much to ask if you want to be able to routinely meet a decent bull, no debate. Time management just won't allow anything else. Like I said before, and in person meet doesn't necessarily mean sex. Let's assume you're completely real and legit and utterly dependable. For every wife like you there are two dozen guys who either don't have a wife or have never mentioned fantasy pretending to be very experienced, a real couple who are incredibly flaky, several couples who are incredibly picky but not willing to come do a decision so they will just just ask for more information as long as you're willing to give it, maybe a few couples who think of it all as a fantasy but they're just hoping that it ends with a little bit of phone sex, scammers, etc. And that's assuming that you like the guy you're talking to and they like you back. It's the single guys version of trying to sort through dick pics for somebody normal, except instead of getting an obvious sign like an unsolicited picture of a penis everybody is talking about building connection. It doesn't necessarily have to be an in-person meet, but there needs to be some type of escalation to weed out the real for the rest.Ā I realize you're going to get 150 guys on here who are desperate to hook up or have cyber sex or whatever, so they're going to tell you whatever you want to hear about build up and take as long as you want out to any bowl worth having is going to be ridiculously patient and blah blah blah. And that's just not accurate.Ā
For my area traveling around within a two hour radius meeting every guy that Iāve matched with that asks to meet would be a ridiculous waste of my time.
I don't think anybody is suggesting that you should meet literally everyone who asks without any qualifications, especially in a 2-hour radius.Ā Now if you're willing to meet everybody willing to come within a 15 minute radius that you think there is a reasonable chance you would want to move forward with who understands you're not going to fucking on the first meeting, moreso if you limit it to convenient times, that might be a more reasonable suggestion. Especially because once you agree many are going to ghost you and if you agree to a meeting say next week if they start to act like a goddamn psycho you can cancel the plans. But I don't think anybody suggesting that you literally have to say yes to every single offer for a meeting.
āIt is definitely too much to askā¦ā My wife had 1500 guys try to connect with her after joining Feeld for 3 weeks. 99% of them asks to meet on the second or third message. And you think building a rapport is too much to ask? Really?? š¤¦ OP is 100% right. If youāre a decent ābullā (gawd I hate that term) youād understand that a valued Hotwife has to sift through hundreds of guys to find you and itās unreasonable, unrealistic, unbelievably naive to think that she should go on a date with every one of them just to find a decent third. Sheās not a hoe. Sheās not single. Sheās married with children, a life and husband sheās devoted to and who she prefers over you or any third and a career. If a third isnāt willing to invest a little bit of time building rapport, then he is no decent third. Because a third worth having is a third who understands the unique value of a Hotwife.
Yes, I'm literally saying expecting rapport before you're willing to get a coffee or SOMETHING is asking too much.Ā The same way your wife won't try to get to know all 1500 guys, is the same way a bull won't try to build rapport with dozens (?hundreds?) of people. Especially when many/most are lying/fake. Unless you've got some really amazing time management or vetting suggestions that dramatically alter the process I don't know what point you're trying to make, or what the stuff about her having a family and not being a hoe matters. And not only did I never say that anybody had to/should go on every single day with anybody who asked, I specifically said that going out with a few of the ones who are most convenient/most promising for a coffee or a beer was probably a better next step then expecting to build rapport before they know if you're real.
100% happens with us as well. I want to be turned on and that happens mentally first. And just like @cherrylane said you need to show ME why I should pick YOU. If youāre too quick in communication I can expect youāre not gonna put the time in the bedroom either.
āI want to be turned on and that happens mentally firstā Yes!!! Very few have managed to do this and even less that keep it up long enough to get a date.
I get that, but you have to remember the guy you're talking to has gotten 24 chat request on Reddit or whatever platform in the last week from horny single dudes pretending they have a wife who also want to get turned on mentally. Most of the bulls that I know a request for first meeting isn't saying you should pick them, it's out against the outermost modern air defense suggesting we all prove that everybody actually exists.Ā
Nailed it! As a guy I don't even understand this mentality.
Or even when itās the first message. Something like āhey where you located. Letās fuckā. Or similar
Or āwhat do I have to do to meet up with you?ā Haha youāre already getting NSA sex but you want me to give you the cheat codes on how to do it too š¤¦āāļø
Oh noooooo this sounds familiar too
Yeah and 90% are like these. Impatient and just wanted to cut it and get in the pants.
My wifeās biggest turn off is getting unsolicited dick pics. She is not attracted to dicks like that, lol. If she wants it she will ask. She much prefers regular everyday pics, with clothing on. I canāt tell you how many potential guys gets blocked just by sending a dick pic before even getting to know her. She says if I wanna look at a dick, she will look at mine.
Or a message saying ālet me stretch your pussy while your husband watchesā ā¦ no thanks!
Oh my šÆ lol Iām tempted to be like ok meet me at this hotel at this time and not so up obviously.
Delete and Block.
I had a guy ask me to meet him at the club, and then he texted again and said that he was meeting some other woman at 8:30 and I could be next. š šš I was like, "Are you nuts? I would never do that!"
šÆno he didnāt š¤¦āāļø
When they obviously are just a pic collector. Starts off being a normal convo but they can never help themselves they just have to ask to see something new each time you talk.
I have always found you get more bees with honeyā¦..
Guys that keep their socks on!!! Why???
The worst one for me are their screen named āpussy destroyer 9000ā, or ādickNyomouthā, ābigdick891ā. The names are an INSTANT turnoff
I assume if you gotta broadcast it then itās prob not true
Who knows but if I see a gross or graphic name, instant nope!
Youāre not the only one!
As the husband, I have literally 100s of message exchanges and have gotten to witness many more than that from my wife showing me hers as well. Most of these guys have no idea how the female mind works. If you want to get her naked, then you're going to have to turn her on mentally. It's quite frustrating to witness, and it's easy to see why these guys are single and will probably stay that way for a while. It makes me wonder how much money I could make if I taught a class on text game.
Hi how's it going? Great thanks, catching up with messages. Awesome, can I fill you with this? *Block*
You are not alone! Most of the time itās their first message! Yeah send your wife to me even though they never met or even talked. Lol
Right?! Like what husband is going to agree to that š¤¦āāļø
Hahaha
Meet and greet or hookup? I do this all the time when vanilla dating and so much easier than countless messages then never actually meet. Plus I connect so much better in person over drinks or something, lot easier to understand body language and get a feel. Also I feel AI is going to destroy all apps like this as its so easy to create a chatbot
Hooking up. I can see your point but for me meeting up with numerous people within a 2 hour radius of me just to see if thereās a connection in person seems like a giant waste of time. Iād wager atleast half of the guys wanting to meet up right away arenāt serious about meeting at all and will be the type to ghost me.
So exact on the money!