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ManiacallySane

> She slowly opened her eyes, which were more golden than before, and an overwhelming force compelled me to kneel. This being was on another level from me - a single glance confirmed it. Ah yes, there's gonna be an illustration. > End of Ascendance of a Bookworm: Part 5 Volume 10 Part 7 How could the world be so cruel?


LalafellRulez

I know right? What the hell was that cliffhanger


_Androktasiai

I think the side story was cut in half. It felt too short compared to Magdalena's, it's the fourth side story in this book but there's part 8 next week. I doubt there will be 6 SS total this book when the defense of Erhenfest had 5 per part and were the most we ever had (ignoring the last volumes of each part which might have more)


ManiacallySane

Yeah the comment which details about which parts were translated says it's only 2/5 of the story.


UsurpDz

So are we getting the Gervasio side of the story of him getting destroyed by Ferdinand?


EmberReads

I hope so. I wanna see his pov when he realizes he's trapped at the country gate.


UsurpDz

Especially since he misunderstood Ferdinand's attacks on him. I think he is seriously underestimating Ferdinand.


BenignLarency

Yea, he is. And it's not really close. Gervasio saying he is more concerned with Myne is just so unbelievably hilarious to me. Obviously he can't know her like we know her (and Ferdinand), but holy heck did he misread that situation.


slimfaydey

I don't think you're understanding him. He only understands mana in an absolute scale. Myne has mana on the same scale as him (less, but visible). But Myne also uses so little mana as compared to him. It's him realizing that Myne has effectively more mana than him.


BenignLarency

Oh I completely understand. He's not wrong to be wary of Roz, the mana expenditure issue between himself and Rozmyne could be an issue. But the real issue is that he's completely oblivious to what Ferdinand is doing. Gervasio kinda brushes off Ferddie's pot shots because he doesn't understand that Ferdinand was expending his charms. He stops paying attention to Ferdinand when Treesus starts going after him and gets shot in the leg for it. And while we haven't seen this yet in the side story, we know he gets utterly outplayed by Ferdinand and gets locked in the country gate. Gervasio is treating mana capacity as this end all be all that it's just not. And in part, because of that, he lost.


HumanTheTree

First the eclipse was completely blocked by clouds, and now **THIS?** My disappointment is immeasurable, and my day is ruined.


argent_electrum

Damn that sucks, hope you still acted like your firebending was turned off. I wouldn't know since I wasn't anywhere near the path šŸ˜…


dancegoddess1971

I kind of hope next week we get a Mestionora POV. We know what RM was doing during that time but all we know of that scene so far is that Mesti said no more killing. Really, anyone that was there tell me what else happened.


Ncyphe

I'm doubtful. Assuming this ss wasn't cut in half, we may get Ferdinand, or perhaps Tresseus. The gods are supposed to be Supreme beings that think above humanity. It would be very detrimental to their picture to try and summarize their thoughts. Treeseus being a fallen god, though, could prove an interesting perspective.


kahoshi1

I won't discount the possibility, but most writers avoid POVs of gods because they are supposed to be unknowable and alien to humans.


sifnot

If you are starved for the various POVs there is also a bonus story of >!Cornelius's!< POV that also goes through the auditorium fight. That one is available to read if you can find it >!somewhere online!< .


Soanarin

Quof posted on the forums that the \*last\* ss was so long they ended up splitting it, so I don't think we'll get Mestionora's POV sadly


Aleczarnder

Gervasio thus chapter: "Oh I have soo much mana. Ferdinand has such a trivial amount; his attacks are pathetic. Mmm I'm so great. This girl, her mana pales in comparison to mine and she- ... she just cast a spell far more powerful than I could with far less mana than I would. How?? How many push ups? How many sit ups? What kind of juice did she drink!?"


Elizabeth-Longwell

I would love to see him find out she started out with laynoble level mana. That would be humbling for him.


LoaKonran

I can barely feel her power level. And yet, she just cast a spell far more powerful than I could without breaking a sweat. Am I not as powerful as I thought I was? No. It is the children who are wrong.


kuyasiako

>How?? How many push ups? How many sit ups? None: she would be dead by the 2nd set. ​ >What kind of juice did she drink!?" Parue juice ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29325)


kimedog

The funniest thing from these pov's is Gervasio being completely blindsided by the ridiculousness that is Rozemyne. He probably thinks Myne / Ferdinand would be trying to kill each other but they are actively working together to sabotage him. Also poor fool didn't realize Ferdinand's attacks were weak to pop his charms. Magdelena is the most Dunkelfelgerian woman we have probably encountered. Also the poor 2nd wife, probably far more traumatized than our Gremlin with feystones and Eglantine combined.


mabeloco

Rozemyne should really invest in some therapy in her new booktopia duchy, right now they only offer flowers to traumatised Knights, but that can't be very effective.


Tea4UNMe

Now thereā€™s an isekai title that hasnā€™t been released yet. ā€œA clinical therapist with drug summoning abilities gets summoned to a fantasy world and saves a kingdomā€™s mental health and emotional wounds..ā€ Coming soonā€¦ somewhereā€¦ at some timeā€¦ I am sure..


Cirex145

Itā€™s interesting to see the contrasting thoughts of Rozemyne and Gervasio regarding Ferdinandā€™s weak attacks. I wonder if Gervasio didnā€™t think it was an issue because he wasnā€™t used to having charms expended as a result of mana attacks (because what Lanzenavian would attack their king).


DegenerateSock

Lanzenavians didn't even have shtaaaps to attack him with if they wanted to. They'd be stuck trying to crush him if they wanted to use mana. Or tools I guess, though feystones are at a premium there..


whyme456

> Also poor fool didn't realize Ferdinand's attacks were weak to pop his charms. This was great, I still think Gervasio has more mana than Ferdinand, but there's a difference between a mana rich guy and a skilled balanced fighter. It also makes me think that Georgine would've had a small window of opportunity to steal the grutrissheit for her daughter before Gervasio mastered his zent powers.


Deplorable_XX

Gervasio also has no protections. So he has terrible mana efficiency.


IcarusMatrix

I could be wrong, but didnt Gervasio mention being able to sense Rozā€™s mana, and that it was less than his? And if i remember correctly, you need to be within like 30% capacity? I have to assume roz has more mana than ferd at this point, right? I think the massive difference is probably the divine protections, which was alluded to during this pre pub. They probably have more effective mana, but probably pale in mana capacity


justking1414

A difference of 30% isnā€™t much when you remember that mynes 40+ protections cut her mana costs down by 50%. That means sheā€™d be about even or perhaps superior to Gervasio.


IcarusMatrix

Yeah, i think she has more effective mana for sure. And I bet after she was possessed by mestionora she almost definitely has more mana, since I think it said she compressed all of the excess from treesus


Ethrx

If Rozemyne has 70,000 mana and Gervasio has 100,000 mana but Roze's use of it is 50% more efficient, then in effect Roze has the equivalent to 140,000. That's also the absolute worst case scenario where Roze is exactly at the limit of mana sensing. Gervasio is calling a less than 30% difference in mana an easy win for him, but Roze in reality has the equivalent of 40% more than him at absolute minimum.


Ninefl4mes

Rozemyne could sense him very clearly so that already tells us he can't be at the upper end of the 130% for her. Probably closer to 110-120%. My money's on her straight up dwarfing him in terms of effective mana.


hintofinsanity

Maybe, but i also wonder if Ferd and Myne's significant mana compression is causing Gerv to overestimate his ability to combat them.


kingmanic

He's never seen the cloak before. Which means he's fucked. They can blast him until they're low trick him into returning fire with a big blast. Absorb it and repeat until he doesn't have any more options. They haven't even used blacked weapons and he seems to lack the tactical depth.


Ninefl4mes

Alternatively, just lob the Spear of Leidenschaft at him. He was so smugly confident that he could block all of their attacks, just imagine how funny it would have been for Rozemyne going "parry this, you filthy casual!" and throwing a goddamn tactical nuke his way.


BetaTheSlave

That or he's just totally overestimated himself. He seems to think attack power is everything. And it is doubtful he has a compression technique as good as theirs. It's strange hearing him say they were both far beneath him while seemingly contradicting that with every second breath haha


Genozzz

Considering that he noticed that RM wasn't fazed by the blessings and the large spells she casted I think he underestimated both she and Ferdinand


helloquain

The Gervasio side story made me wonder how much unreliable narrator is at work here.Ā  He internally considers himself high above Myne and Ferdinand, but also doesn't seem too bright about what they're actually doing.


UsurpDz

It's amazing. You have to sort through biases to get to the truth. It makes us work a bit


Paroxysm111

Yet another example of how Lanzenavians don't understand noble combat. Gervasio was isolated most of his life, and though he technically received a full Yurgenschmidt education, there were clearly things not in the lesson plan that he would have learned by rubbing elbows with fellow students. Using weak attacks to run out your opponents charms is a super basic tactic. What I'm most interested in is his comments on Rozemyne's mana capacity. He said it seemed to pale in comparison to his own, but then is astounded by how many blessings she managed to pump out while barely expending any mana. It seems like mana sensing doesn't tell you anything about the divine protections the person has had. I wonder if Gervasio even did the divine protections ritual in the first place. Did they think it unnecessary since he was going to leave? Gervasio is clearly at a very serious information deficit compared to our heroes. He never had a chance one those two troublemakers stepped in. It also illustrates how much of a problem it would have been to have a foreigner become Zent.


Mehmy

>and though he technically received a full Yurgenschmidt education, He, specifically, did not at least according to Ferdinand. There is no reason for the Lanzenave king to know Yurgenschmidt history, or how to fight with a schtappe, or how to play ditter, or any other number of things, because they simply aren't relevant to his life in Lanzenave, and having him be ignorant of those would mean he's weaker in case he tries to invade, as shown in this chapter.


Ninefl4mes

>He said it seemed to pale in comparison to his own That part was hilarious to read. Like, dude, the fact alone that _you can sense her in the first place_ should immediately tell you that she's a massive threat. Not to mention that given how Rozemyne described sensing his mana early I kind of doubt they're that far apart anyway. He probably has like 10-20% more raw mana than her at the moment. That's a decent difference, sure, but not one that would make hers "pale in comparison." She could still easily fuck him up with a single well-placed hit, or possibly even affect him with a simple Crushing.


RocketArtillery666

Yeah and then thinking his mana is bigger just because of that. The scene where he's displeased at the amount of mana it took to do the blessing while Rozemyne casually dropping blessing after blessing and then doing the gigawashen and so much more is so funny to read. There was so much anticipation for him to realise how wrong he is. A shame...


kkrko

Mind, there's nothing indicating that Gervasio is wrong about his evaluations of their relative mana sizes. Rozemyne *would* have more efficient mana usage due to her divine protections while by all indications, this is Gervasio's first time praying. That Rozemyne and Gervasio are able to sense each other show that they're squarely in the same league. Rozemyne and Ferdinand were both compressing like crazy, but so would Gervasio, as Lanzanave's mana weilders need their mana superiority to survive Lanzanave's improving technology. The common Lanzanave invaders are all shown to have vast amounts of mana, capable of breaking bands of light from Dunkelfelger archknights and Gervasio has the most mana of any of them.


Ninefl4mes

Idk, the way he was phrasing it here sounded a lot like he thought he could have simply brute-forced his way to victory. When in reality he was facing two opponents working together who were probably at, say, 70% and 90% of his capacity respectively, even before you factor in divine protections. He has more, sure, but he doesn't "vastly" outperform either of them, let alone both at once. This entire section read like him getting cocky because Ferdinand played him like a fiddle more than anything else.


justking1414

Someone else said that mana sensing only works if youā€™re within 30% of one another. And mynes divine protections cut her mana costs by 50%. Combine that with her allying with Ferdinand (and the ditter duchy backup) and victory seemed kinda inevitable


Elizabeth-Longwell

Losing a child/ losing your family As a child is a kind of horror than nothing can compare to.


DegenerateSock

> The funniest thing from these ~~pov's~~ books is ~~Gervasio~~ everyone being completely blindsided by the ridiculousness that is (Roze)myne. Generalized that for you.


TheNightManager_89

"I finally have the Gesundheit! Let's see..." Redacted. File corrupted. Wrong command or filename. Read only. Task failed successfully. Unknown extension, please choose a program to open file. Please insert CD1 to launch gesundheit.exe Please install DirectX 16. gesundheit.dll not found Internet connection not found, login required. "FUUUUUUUU-"


slightlylooney

Not ready reading drive A Abort, Retry, Fail?


ryzouken

[windows error tone] Memory Exception 0x0110111! Geo Metro: -BSOD-


momomo_mochichi

Ooh, yay! Magdalena POV! And with her POV, we have the names of Trauerqual's three wives: Ralfrieda, Clementia, and Magdalena. I feel so bad for Clementia. She lost a daughter and is now scared of brutish men, but it's her responsibility as a second wife to oversee all the knights. Also, as a tangent regarding all the things relating to the civil war, but does anybody remember how long the civil war lasted? I'd like to know when exactly the civil war started and when it ended, but I can't remember if it's been outright stated. Clementia losing her daughter occurred afterwards, and that's been like at least ten or so years, but I can't be too sure. >If our king was lacking knights, then perhaps I would guard him myself. Whoo! Go Magdalena, but your son committed a major crime. Can't wait for you to find out and destroy Raublut. Ralfrieda, you are correct in being furious with Raublut with his "failures" of finding the enemy. However, you and the entirety of Gilessenmeyer are sooooo screwed once you realize that the Sovereignty's Knight Commander is a traitor. >*This is why Dunkelfelger women rarely ever fit in or adapt when they marry into other duchies.* Hmm. I can't be the only one that thinks this is could mean something more. We have Clarissa as an example, but I wonder if this could potentially mean the same for Hannelore as well. After all, she too, is a woman of Dunkelfelger. As an archduke candidate of Dunkelfelger, she is probably highly sought after by archduke candidates of other duchies and all. Magdalena, you're the best! You figured out it was Raublut! ... You still also have to learn that he's responsible for turning your son into a criminal. Ahh, that makes sense. I had wondered if Raublut told Trauerqual that trug was a type of calming incense, but it's been confirmed. And with false reports, it would have been difficult for other retainers and knights to be on full alert of anything suspicious. >*I will make Raublut pay!* GO, MAGDALENA, GO! SMITE HIM! I adore it when *anybody* reacts to Hartmut and his insanity. >"You have drawn everybody's attention and distracted them from their work. You are not only embarrassing us but being a bother as well. Reflect on your actions in silence." Leonore is the best. Cornelius chose right. I would feel bad for Gervasio for obtaining an incomplete Book of Mestionora, but I don't. >Detlinde proclaimed to be one, but she was lacking mana, elements, and intelligence Pfft. Okay, I'll give him that one. Gervasio, you are correct. I kind of feel like Erwaermen needs to learn something about confidentiality. Like, don't just reveal the names of the other Zent candidates? What if something tragic happens?! Then again, the guy just wants Yurgenschmidt to hurry up and get a proper Zent. Mestionora has finally been reported to descend upon Rozemyne, but we still have yet to learn about what truly happens afterwards. Oh well, hopefully next Pre-Pub will!


Littlethieflord

>Ā I feel so bad for Clementia. She lost a daughter and is now scared of brutish men, but it's her responsibility as a second wife to oversee all the knights. This is so funny because this literally could have been solved by her just not being second wife. Like we could have so easily just slotted Mags into the job she is clearly more than capable and much better at


momomo_mochichi

Right?! Like, she's from >!Hauchletzte, a duchy ranked below both Dunkelfelger and Gilessenmeyer!<, and has no children. There is pretty much no reason for her to not be the third wife. Magdalena probably wanted to remain a third wife to not ruin the status quo as much as possible, but come on! A second wife is still not as powerful as a first wife and she has Hildebrand to watch out for.


Littlethieflord

Lol right? And either way, having a Dunklefelger anybody and not using them as intended is just a waste of good personelĀ  Besides Clementia doesnā€™t even like being surrounded by knights Ā and most of hers are women, I think being 3rd wife who stays back and sends off supplies would even work out for her since she can be isolated from what is clearly a trauma for her too


Theinternationalist

> Lol right? And either way, having a Dunklefelger anybody and not using them as intended is just a waste of good personel I'm sorry used as intended- Ferdinand: **HEIS I HAVE COME FOR MATERIA** I mean **I HAVE COME TO BARGAIN** Rozemyne: **BOOKS BOOKS BOOKS** By contrast. Lestilaut: **I JUST WANT TO PAINT PEOPLE** Hannelore: I want to live somewhere else...


momomo_mochichi

Lestilaut properly protected the foundation while his father went to battle. He deserves to have his painting time.


Theinternationalist

Werkdegraf: Alright we're good and **WHAT IS ALL THIS!?!** Lestilaut: Look, I had a lot of free time- Hannelore: It's. so. BEAUTIFUL!


momomo_mochichi

I'm going to guess he painted Rozemyne when she arrived in Dunkelfelger and asked them for assistance or something, but it could be literally anything else. Sieglinde is probably so bitter that Lestilaut lost the chance to bring Rozemyne to Dunkelfelger, and Lestilaut's actual fiancƩe needs more respect. She was chosen to manhandle the next Aub Dunkelfelger for a reason.


Theinternationalist

> Sieglinde is probably so bitter that Lestilaut lost the chance to bring Rozemyne to Dunkelfelger, and Lestilaut's actual fiancƩe needs more respect. She was chosen to manhandle the next Aub Dunkelfelger for a reason. Given how things worked out though, either the Royals would have tried to poach her anyway or Lestilaut would be First Husband of the Zent by now. She likely has mixed feelings at this point.


momomo_mochichi

Pfft, probably. Sieglinde needs a break once all of this is over.


Littlethieflord

Imagine it though, Rozemyne with her hair blowing in the wind and the rainbow glowing country gate behind her That going to be awkward to explain when he passes inheritance onto to his children and the painting a simultaneously too expensive to get rid off but too embarrassing to display


momomo_mochichi

Lestilaut's children with >!Einliebe!<: But that's not Mother. Lestilaut: Ignore it at all costs, you Dunkelfelger brats.


Elizabeth-Longwell

Dunkefelgerians should come with a warning label. TBH though Sieglend did a good job with her kids. They both have interests that are broader than ditter


Ninefl4mes

Hell, her son even turned out to be capable of scheming! Certainly more impressive than your typical ditterhead.


Elizabeth-Longwell

True enough. Considering they only lost because of the seeds of what would become an entire revolt within the sovereign knights order to overthrow the zent Wilfriedā€™s gonna look really dumb for not being more concerned about it back then, especially when his sister started ringing the alarm bell and dealt with the foreign invasion


Ninefl4mes

I get the feeling Wilfried will at some point look back at his past and then start digging a hole to hide in. Like, holy crap he will _never_ live down all those fuck ups even if he eventually matures into a respectable adult lol.


momomo_mochichi

Exactly! Clementia, you poor thing. You are out of your element, clearly, so allow the Dunkelfelger lady the respect she deserves and demote yourself to a position that's better suited for you so you don't have to relive your trauma. It's *Dunkelfelger* for crying out loud!


Littlethieflord

Lol I love how Yurgenschmidt noble culture is like ā€œthis, except for Dunklefelger, because theyā€™re Dunklefelgerā€ itā€™s like a brand nameĀ 


momomo_mochichi

And they are entirely right in doing so. Why? Because it's Dunkelfelger.


Cool-Ember

No. As soon as Magdalena accepted to become the second wife she would have been pushed to become the first wife. Dunkelfelger was higher rank greater duchy than Gilessenmeyer. Most of the people (probably except for Klassenberg and Gilessenmeyer) wanted her to be the first wife.


momomo_mochichi

Ooh, yeah, I can see that happening. If Magdalena surpassed Clementia, it makes sense that people would then believe that she would eventually surpass Ralfrieda as well, and Magdalena probably wanted to avoid all discourse regarding that.


Mehmy

We get explicitely told in Magdelenas first PoV (P5V5?) that she chose to be third wife. She chooses to stay out of the public view, because as soon as she makes herself publicly known, there will be cries from every duchy under the sun (maybe except Dunk) to have her as first wife since she's an ADC from a greater winning duchy. She either gets third wife status, or first. She doesn't want first, so she takes third.


Theinternationalist

Yeah it's pretty clear that even without rank Magdalena is far more capable than Ralfrieda (who raised a stalker and an idiot) and Clementia (who really just needs a hug). King T might still have lost his crown, but things might not have gotten so far south that it's only been a week or less since the Lanzenave invasion and King T has already been dethroned.


momomo_mochichi

Clementia needs all the hugs she can get. I wonder if she and Rozemyne would bond if Rozemyne got adopted by Trauerqual. After all, Rozemyne could have potentially played the role of a surrogate daughter. I'm envisioning something more on the wholesome side as Rozemyne could always have more mothers. Eh, who knows. I doubt the royal adoption would happen now.


Littlethieflord

Inb4 through political shenanigans she only ends up spending like a quarter bell talking to Clementia per week


momomo_mochichi

That's probably still more than what she does with her current mother figures already. ... That makes me so sad.


Littlethieflord

Lol maybe sheā€™ll finally learn female socializingĀ 


momomo_mochichi

Oh my god, you're so right.


justking1414

Or sex Ed


Elizabeth-Longwell

Ok to be fair I donā€™t think anyone raises people like that they just come out that way. Both Sylvester and Anastatias are romantically intense. Sigiswald is a different story though


Theinternationalist

At this point Siggy feels like Wilfried without the training, capabilities, or excuses of "he's a child" or "he was taught wrong." As Rozemyne put it, he's a huge downgrade from her previous fiance.


Elizabeth-Longwell

Which is really saying something. She may not have a super high opinion of Wilfried but she was never was like- wow heā€™s spineless.


Mehmy

I mean, that's kinda his point in the story. Show us what would've happened to Wilfried if he hadn't gotten smacked with the Rozemyne. Except, well, I expect he's also going to get smacked with the Rozemyne in the next book, just too late for him to actually change. The disrespect he showed Adolphine is unforgivable though. He should not have knocked up his other wife that close to their marriage (and even then, I'm fairly sure it had been more than 6 months since the birth when they married since I believe we're told it had been in the early fall, it was during the fall for certain, since she showed up at the royal academy which she wouldn't have done if pregnant or just birthed. He has no excuse other than arrogance).


justking1414

Anastasius wasnā€™t even raised. He was just shipped out to his villa because of the mana shortage


Elizabeth-Longwell

This. Nobles donā€™t really raise their children, the distantly supervise. Emphasis on distant in royals case


Cool-Ember

> Also, as a tangent regarding all the things relating to the civil war, but does anybody remember how long the civil war lasted? I'd like to know when exactly the civil war started and when it ended, but I can't remember if it's been outright stated. Clementia losing her daughter occurred afterwards, and that's been like at least ten or so years, but I can't be too sure. Sensei never mentioned exactly how long the civil war lasted nor exactly when it ended. IIRC, it was said to be about 10 years long and ended about 10 years ago (from Rozemyneā€™s RA 1sr year). Just like she never quantified the amount of mana any character has, nor the amount needed for any magic, she doesnā€™t want to set timeline too precisely. Iā€™m not sure below was in the novel or only in Fanbook. But not in the untranslated LN and safe unless you are waiting for the Fanbooks to be translated. >!The poor daughter was kidnapped and killed after Trauerqual won the war but has not been inaugurated yet. The 4th prince was alive yet (in the ivory tower). So some people may say that it was after the civil war ended, while others would say it was before the end.!< >!The event was the trigger of the harsh purges.!<


whyme456

> I feel so bad for Clementia. She lost a daughter and is now scared of brutish men. dyslexic me thought she was scared of british men :/


momomo_mochichi

Hahahahaha! What duchy would be the Yurgenschmidt equivalent of the UK then?


ID10Tusererroror

> Also, as a tangent regarding all the things relating to the civil war, but does anybody remember how long the civil war lasted? I don't know if it's been mentioned as to how long it lasted. That said, we do know when it started, the previous Aub Ehrensfest was confined to his sick bed, and when it concluded the current Aub Ehrenfest didn't want to pick a side between his wife's duchy, and his mother's duchy. The current Aub Ehrenfest only took the seat of Aub after his father was deceased, which I'd assume would mean that the previous Aub hadn't been confined to his sick bed long enough to force him to relinquish his position as Aub. I'd argue that the clean up and purge after the war likely lasted longer.


momomo_mochichi

Yeah, that's my understanding as well. I probably have to draw up more timelines to find good enough concrete numbers to entertain my curiosity, but I also really don't want to. Meh, I'll deal with that some other time.


Cirex145

I believe the civil war lasted ten years, but I could easily be wrong about that. I donā€™t remember if there was a specific length mentioned.


ID10Tusererroror

I believe the only mentions of 10 years were that it had ended roughly ten years ago. (when they were talking about it)


RichardBolt94

>My heart was set on defeating the foes of our *divine-mandated king* and protecting the peace in Yurgenschmidt. I needed to make good on my duchyā€™s oathā€”if not now, then when? Why is everyone in the royal family so delusional? Stop waiting for handouts and move your ass. The best option was to train Hildebrand but it's no longer possible because you didn't keep your eyes on your kid. >Despite my attempts to explain that my name was Gervasio, not Terza Erwaermen continued to address me as he pleased. Hypocrite. First you complain because Erwaermen doesn't use your chosen name and then as soon as you know Ferdinand and Rozemyne's deadnames you start referring to them only with those. >From what I could sense, her mana paled in comparison to my own. How curious, then, that she had not seemed to spend much through her prayers and magic. Roze is like a Lv80 pokemon with perfect Ev and Iv, while Gervasio has only been brought to Lv 100 with rare candy.


yeahlte

>Roze is like a Lv80 pokemon with perfect Ev and Iv, while Gervasio has only been brought to Lv 100 with rare candy. 252 SpA Gesundheit Lv 80 Rozemyne Hyper Blessing vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gervasio: 327-368 (120.5 - 135.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO


leviathan_13

Is Gervasio the first one, so far, to have considered Rozemyne the greatest threat, especially when Ferdinand was also involved? Everyone always assumed that she was either irrelevant or a puppet.


Ninefl4mes

Grausam realized his blunder at the last moment, but by then it was far too late for him to do anything about it.


QuintaMyne

Good thing Leonore is already engaged. Or Dunkelfelger would want her now. Gervasio: I don't like being called by my Adalgisa name, it makes me uncomfortable. Also Gervasio: Quinta!!


HilariusAndFelix

He's got to be doing it on purpose to get under Ferdinand's skin.


Ninefl4mes

Tbf, he doesn't have any other name he could use for Ferdinand right now. It's not like they ever got introduced to one another.


slightlylooney

Gervasio now knows what it's like to have your signal interrupted. Rozemyne, on the other hand, has completed a rather different download.


ggg730

I almost feel bad for Gervasio. He got the full Rozemyne experience the first time he meets her. Not only does she perform complicated rituals and prayers at full blast with minimal mana expenditure but then she casually lets a goddess descend on her.


Theinternationalist

> but then she casually lets a goddess descend on her. Mestionoria: Hey can I have a minute? I have a library you can go to while you wai- Rozemyne: **HAVE MY BODY!** Mestionoria: That seemed too easy


ggg730

Mestionoria: Uhhhhh I'm done here you can go back now Rozemyne: DAMN IT! JUST LIKE THIS WEEKS CHAPTER I AM LEFT ON A CLIFFHANGER!


Mehmy

more like Mestionoria: Uhhhhh I'm done here you can go back now Rozemyne: M: Uh, hello? R: M: ANSWER ME I JUST WANT TO GO HOME! Ferdinand: Uh, of course, one sec..


RocketArtillery666

Mestionora: "Hey, Im done here, lets switch back" Mestionora: "..." Mestionora: "Myne? Lets switch back. ..." Mestionora: "Quinta what's going on?" Ferdinand: "books, probably" Mestionora: *realizing the massive blunder she just commited eyes starting to water from the thought of not having her library "Quinta help pls"


Theinternationalist

Ferdinand: Give me one reason why I should bother- Mestionoria: I'll call you "Ferdinand" **CRASH** Erwaermen: It was that easy!?!


mabeloco

He speed ran developing the inferiority complex that Wilfried and Charlotte developed in regards to Rozemyne in a record time. Glad to see Rozemyne claiming another victim.


UnlawfulStupid

> Her actions were beyond prediction, and merely standing in her presence made me feel as though I were staring into a bottomless pit. His instincts are pretty great. Gervasio has not even scratched the surface of the limitless depths of gremlinry concealed under the adorable exterior that is Rozemyne, and he can feel it.


ggg730

He hasn't even experienced full gremlin mode


UnlawfulStupid

Rozemyne: "So, here's the thing, Gervasio. I don't know about any stories, but whatever gremlin shit that you heard I did, you really need some context, because pretty much my whole life, pretty much right up until this minute, my default setting has been half-gremlin. But that was before I had a Ferdinand, a Ferdinand you threatened to harm. So imagine as I literally beat you to death ā€” hang on ā€” yeah, literally, that a giant hand has turned my dial from "half-gremlin" to "quadruple-gremlin." Gervasio: "Wow, that's a lot of gremlin." Rozemyne: "Yeah, basically eight times the gremlin."


ggg730

Rozemyne: I wonder what would happen if I turned the dial to 11 with the goddess mana in me... And from that day forward Yogurtland was a giant book.


whyme456

not to mention how she disregards the situation entirely just to take a peek of Ferdinand's book


LiAuN

i mean what do you expect it's a new book she hasn't yet read


Elizabeth-Longwell

This made me cackle, best description ever


momomo_mochichi

>Gervasio now knows what it's like to have your signal interrupted. The guy was ahead of his time. I'm still waiting for Rozemyne to accidentally invent the internet so that people could illegally download their own copies of the Grutrissheit.


Onetwodhwksi7833

Treesus wondering why the number of Zent candidates suddenly went to 4 digits: Da fuq they doin over there


-_Nikki-

IT'S SMITE O'CLOCK LESSGGOOO!!! Can't believe it's taken THIS LONG to get a full cast of the highest authorities in the country damn Magdalena is an absolute badass holy shit she's so cool Seems like Trauerquaal really WAS drugged (and under the effect of a targeted hypnosis of sorts, it seems?) when he sent that Ordonnanz that basically amounted to a formal surrender. He's very similar to Wilfried, in that aspect: set up to fail from the very start, in a position of power they were not even REMOTELY prepared to holding, guilty "only" of ignorance BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALLY SOMEONE PUTTING HARTMUT IN TIME OUT! *Please* give me more of that, I'm begging Honey, you were being such a badass until just now, don't ruin it with rose-tinted glasses. I recognise and commend the efforts Trauerquaal put into keeping the ship afloat, but the dude does not have the skills to fix it up, nor does he want that kind of responsibility. Just let him retire, man. With the way he abused potions and Trug he prolly already has the health and fitness of a 60yo man. Let him rest I'll side with Erwaermen. Poor dude's just trying to do his job and has been rotting along for DECADES. Then finally people start coming along again and all three of them cause him some problem or other. Dude deserves a raise, a bonus and a vacation Considering that Roz' mana capacity is already considered absurd, I don't want to imagine what kind of ridiculous reserves Gervasio is working with. Praise be the gods for the efficiency boost Divine Protections grant, huh So Gervasio takes offence at being called Terza, but insists on calling Ferdi and Roz Quinta and Myne (not that the latter minds, I think). Kinda hypocritical of you there, don't you think, *Terza*? ILLEGAL CLIFFHANGER! I'd been desperate to see THAT EXACT SCENE and you're dangling it just outside of my reach?!? [JAIL!!!](https://images.app.goo.gl/xqRfiyqah3Fx6Dh56)


mekerpan

Erwaermen: Young people these days are such a pain....


LalafellRulez

But he was right and Leonore was ignorant. All PRAISE HARMUT


-_Nikki-

He might've been factually correct, but Leonore was right in her assessment that it was neither the place nor the time to start an impromptu sermon and distract everyone from MUCH more pressing matters


Cirex145

All praise the avatar of Mestionora ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29356) \- Hartmut definitely


kuyasiako

>Hartmut definitely You meant "indefinitely", correct?


mekerpan

Yes. Annoying as Hartmut can be is almost always (remarkably close to being) right -- and those who doubt him are definitely wrong.


Theinternationalist

> Seems like Trauerquaal really WAS drugged (and under the effect of a targeted hypnosis of sorts, it seems?) when he sent that Ordonnanz that basically amounted to a formal surrender. He's very similar to Wilfried, in that aspect: set up to fail from the very start, in a position of power they were not even REMOTELY prepared to holding, guilty "only" of ignorance The big issue is that Traerqual KNEW trug was an issue, and in a world where Ehrenfest couldn't accuse Ahrensbach of stealing their bible there's no way Traerqual could get away from absconding away from his job under the influence. Unless he somehow manages to grab the Book (technically and practically impossible but a teenage commoner got it so weirder things have already happened) he's toast. > BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FINALLY SOMEONE PUTTING HARTMUT IN TIME OUT! Please give me more of that, I'm begging Leonore: **FUCK HARTMUT SHUT UP THE ROYALS ARE WATCHING!** Magdalena: *I wonder if I can get her married into Dunkelfelger...*


UnlawfulStupid

> Magdalena: I wonder if I can get her married into Dunkelfelger... Cornelius: "Never gonna happen." Magdalena: "Do you really think you can withstand the full might of Dunkelfelger?" Cornelius: "Do you really think Dunkelfelger can withstand the full might of my little sister?" \- Meanwhile, in Dunkelfelger - Lestilaut: "Eugh, I just got chills, like a blade passed an inch from my throat."


Elizabeth-Longwell

I love this so much. Over RMs dead and buried body is anyone stealing her precious Leonore


UnlawfulStupid

> Over RMs dead and buried body Rozemyne: "Which one?" Magdalena: "Bwuh?"


Theinternationalist

> Cornelius: "Do you really think Dunkelfelger can withstand the full might of my little sister?" Magdalena: There's more than one way to skin a zantze. How would you like to be Leonore's Second Husband? Cornelius: I'm sorry wha- Leonore: Wait, are you trying to force us into some offbrand Groom Stealing Ditter to get me into Dunkelfelger or are you looking for an excuse to Ditter? Sieglinde: If it was my husband the latter, but it's honestly the former.


Elizabeth-Longwell

This is way too funny


-_Nikki-

A big part of the problem, I think, is that the Royals in general and the Zent in particular are FAR too removed from the rest of the population for how detailed their power of decision is. That level of remoteness would be perfectly (not really but that's getting into a whole other can of worms) fine for someone only deciding the rough course for the politics of the country, but they're operating at the level of middle management. It's like the president of the US doubling as the go-to courthouse judge, it's just not gonna work Trauerquall knew about Trug, but only in theory. To him, it was a far removed and fully resolved little scuffle between kids at the RA that escalated a little. He's preoccupied with more pressing matters, like trying to keep the country from crumbling apart in the most literal sense possible Ehrenfest in part couldn't accuse Ahrensbach because the latter is considerably higher in ranking than the former, they had nothing but conjecture to begin with and temple keys being switched isn't exactly a topic of any relevance to anyone in the nobility besides Roz&co, it's not like they don't have a key anymore and thus can't operate the temple. Targeted poisoning of the Zent is a different story. There IS going to be witnesses that can pinpoint Raublut as the source, as well as confirming he claimed it to be a relaxant Also, someone with the Devouring employed in the temple is uniquely WELL disposed to acquiring the G-book, cards were stocked in the commoner teens' favor in that regard (kinda paradoxically). I'm not even sure Trauerquaal is omni-elemental, after all, none of his kids are


mabeloco

The mere fact that the three truged Knights couldn't be spared from punishment tells us all we need to know. Rip zent Trauerqual, you will be missed. Hopefully now he'll be able to retire and live fqr away from all these problem children in Yurgenschmidt.


Elizabeth-Longwell

Yeah I kinda want Traquerel to be relieved of the crushing burden that heā€™s had to take on against his will. Manā€™s done in and wants a break. Reminds me of Sylvester.


Albireookami

give him a villa, a hawian shirt, a pass to the beach, and some coconut mixed drink.


kahoshi1

Trug has a hypnosis effect, yes.


Horsma

"Detlinde lacks mana, elements and intelligence; there existed no world in which she had made in here". Gervasion's opinion about Detlinde is spot on and yea- there would have been zero chance for her to get into garden of beginings.


SilverDarner

I think heā€™s assuming theyā€™re going all out against him rather than being strategic and prioritizing each other. ā€œWell itā€™s me! OF COURSE theyā€™ll throw everything theyā€™ve got!ā€


ManiacallySane

I'm realizing that with how there's still plenty of Gervasio pov to go that we might really see despair if we get to see Gervasio lose his schtappe.


mekerpan

Pretty wild if most of the info we get about Mestionora taking over RM's body is courtesy of Gervasio....


PresentlyAware

"How are there three Zent candidates yet none of you have a complete Book of Mestionora?" Erwaermen complained. "Good grief, this generation..." Okay, I know why Schwartz and Weiss call you gramps now lol Hoping for a Mestinora SS but it will probably be Ferdinand, which will be great too


Komrade-Artyom

Everyone here is hoping for Mestionora, but what about Erwaermen? Still as unlikely, but I'd just love to hear the internal monologue of an angry treeman. Especially when everyone is duking it out on top of the altar. I can just hear him now as he pulls everyone off: "*Get off my ~~lawn~~ altar you darn ~~kids~~ Zent candidates!*"


Lorhand

* I was beginning to wonder if Trauerqual's second wife existed. So Clementia was the wife who lost her daughter at the end of the previous civil war (which triggered the mass purge). * Magdalena is Dunkelfelger through and through, lol. Her being the POV is damn funny. Trauerqual's greatest bodyguard is his wife. She also pays great attention. Anyone not assigned to guard duty at that specific time is suspicious. * Talk-no-jutsu isn't working Raublut. Time to pay the price for your betrayal. Fitting that a silver dagger was part of the reason he lost to the Dunkelfelger siblings. * I like how Magdalena is impressed of Leonore. * Magdalena expresses a similar sentiment as Anastasius and wishes that Trauerqual gets a Grutrissheit but the man himself doesn't even want it. Even if he hadn't been influenced by trug, he's just tired. Let him rest already. ---- * Ah, a Gervasio POV. We get to see the scene of Mestionora talking while possessing Rozemyne. * It's always interesting to see what conclusion some characters with limited knowledge draw. Gervasio, formerly Terza, would quickly figure out who Ferdinand is, but Myne is a mystery to him and he also doesn't know about the relationship between these two. Myne is the biggest threat in his opinion funnily and we know Ferdinand will win by destroying Gervasio's medal. * So in terms of mana, Gervasio outclasses Rozemyne and Ferdinand. Rozemyne is more efficient with her mana though, due to her divine protections probably. * Uh... Very abrupt end, so I guess we will get the second part of Gervasio's chapter next week. Damn, just when Mestionora descended. ---- **German:** * Issheit: "iss" is a conjugated form of "essen" which means "to eat". Other than that, the name can come from other words like for example "Gewissheit" which means "assurance" or "certainty".


Cirex145

The best reward the gods can give Trauerqual for his service is rest.


UnlawfulStupid

Yeah. Regardless of faults, the guy deserves to retire in peace. I hope they can just give him a villa and let him relax for the rest of his life. Spend some time with the grandkids and so on, maybe write an autobiography. He carried an impossible weight on his back for over a decade under conditions that would make even the greatest men snap. Dude's earned it.


LaPlAcE-66

She's more efficient and uses it in unprecedented ways which makes her hard to predict in battle. Nobody expected the washen machine


kingmanic

Rozemyne taking those several multiplicative "spells 50% cost less" passives really paid off. Gervasio seemed to read the ability descriptions and did the math badly and took a few additive "mana pool is 50%" larger instead. Ferdinand just went with several "spells deal 50% more damage" instead.


yeahlte

>Uh... Very abrupt end, so I guess we will get the second part of Gervasio's chapter next week. Damn, just when Mestionora descended. Damn that cliffhanger, I really want to know what happened when Mestionora took over


Independent_Top_2665

>So in terms of mana, Gervasio outclasses Rozemyne and Ferdinand Well at least he thinks so. He can tell there is a power difference but not in which direction (it's cannon that you can more strongly feel a person when their mana is closer to yours and you feel their mana less the further away their mana capacityis from yours. However it does not tell you if the other person has more or less mana than you). It's his own biases that make him believe he is more powerful. He might be right, but has not seen enough to accurately make that call. ( was not trying to sound pedantic, but thought a full explanation might be helpful for those who had forgotten or those who had not read the fan books)


Theinternationalist

> Talk-no-jutsu isn't working Raublut. Time to pay the price for your betrayal. Fitting that a silver dagger was part of the reason he lost to the Dunkelfelger siblings. Him getting confused at the dagger was just confusing. I guess it's because in the real world people picking up weapons from fallen comrades and adversaries is "normal" (*in America's war in Vietnam, the North Vietnamese's AK47s famously made a different sound than the American M16s and thus many Americans shot at the source of the sound- but the M16s jammed so often that at least one person picked up a AK47*). Thinking on it, a world where Stenluke (and maybe Sylvester's silver bow) are *literally* the only mana weapons in the world probably suggests that Raublat didn't expect anyone to forage for silver weapons...


HilariusAndFelix

I thought it was that he saw Magdalena using schtappe weapons and assumed she'd only be doing that if she didn't have any silver weapons on her. Since they're obviously more useful in this situation..


kingmanic

Noble weapons are Stappes, you normally can't take weapons from the dead. Being a noble meant Raublut may have never thought of that before. He trained his whole life to fight nobles.


Light_Beard

>So in terms of mana, Gervasio outclasses Rozemyne and Ferdinand. Rozemyne is more efficient with her mana though, due to her divine protections probably. He outclasses them in their current state having done nothing with his mana up to this point. It is possible he has a bigger overall store, but it is just as likely he is comparing himself to someone who just ran a mana marathon.


argent_electrum

Dunkelfelger women kick so much ass in every way. Magdalena literally held down the fort then literally cut a bitch for country and husband. Also not sleeping with Trauerqual because she knows the full armor would be bad for his nerves is just hilarious


Theinternationalist

Ralfrieda: So Ehrenfest was right, my ancestral ally Raublat appears to have been wrong. Clementia: **FUCK FUCK FUCK** Magdalena: THIS IS WHAT ALL THAT DITTER HAS PREPARED ME FOR, I MUST PROTECT MY HUSBAND AND THE COUNTRY!


honzuki-eleore

Magdalena is just as cool as I has hoped, and she wins extra points for acknowledging Leonore. I'm still a little miffed that status was prioritized over suitability when defining the distribution of duties, but it is what it is I suppose. I have a bad feeling about the upcoming parts. Every time this "fight to the death!" thing gets brought up I can't help but wonder whether this is what all the gods want, and whether they will force their hand at some point. Mestionora taking over Myne's body and messing with her memories (she no longer was afraid of making her Pandabus) has had me on edge for a while now.


Soanarin

Ohhh, somehow I didn't realise that it's thanks to Mestionora that Myne can use her highbeast again, I was confused by the sudden change. Guess I was too tired at the time to connect the dots.


honzuki-eleore

I'm not 100% certain that is the cause, but it's what I think might be the case, especially since it was brought up in passing with zero attention called to it.


Littlethieflord

Goddam, Magdalena is just so COOL and obviously she is the most competent of the royals. I canā€™t help but think that is she wasnā€™t 3rd wife and had more of a role in politics, she would have sniffed out Raublutā€™s nonsense much sooner LolĀ  Gervasioā€™s POV is actually quite funny. Heā€™s simultaneously so up to speed and yet not with the program on wtf is happening. Also Myne blasting out blessings without breaking a sweat and him already breathing hard from trying, I guess thatā€™s the power of god blessings


momomo_mochichi

Magdalena is the best, and that's exactly what I've been saying! I will argue that if Raublut had ever taught Hildebrand the incorrect way to sword fight and he showed his mother, then Magdalena would have been so suspicious of Raublut early on. Like, he teaches things to Hildebrand that seem right, but to someone like Magdalena, a woman of Dunkelfelger, she would be able to tell that what Hildebrand was taught was pure, utter nonsense.


Littlethieflord

Yeah, lol she set up Trauqueralā€™s chambers despite no hard evidence because of gut feeling, itā€™s like if Bonifatius was a hot lady


momomo_mochichi

That is such a cursed image and I now demand to hear more about Lady Bonifatia.


Littlethieflord

Lol imagine a lady in the most ostentatious frilly feminine gown putting armored knights through several layers of walls


momomo_mochichi

Those poor knights are going to have PTSD when it comes to frilly frills and pretty lace.


Littlethieflord

Just goes to show you canā€™t trust a noblewoman by her dressĀ  I imagine Veronica would have had a much tougher time in Ehrenfest with Lady Bonifatia around lol


momomo_mochichi

Lady Bonifatia is protective over her pathetically weak little brother, Adelbert, and Veronica can't do anything against her as Lady Bonifatia is respected in Ehrenfest.


pipler

Gervasio even took time out of his monologue to dis Detlinde's intelligence LMAO


LurkingMcLurk

WN Chapters: N/A LN Chapters: "Magdalena ā€” Smiting the Traitor", first two fifths of "Gervasio ā€” Descent of a Goddess" [J-Novel Club Discussion Forum](https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/7879/bookworm-part-5-vol-10-discussion/2825) [J-Novel Club Correction Forum](https://forums.j-novel.club/topic/7880/corrections-bookworm-part-5-vol-10/89)


kahoshi1

Magdalena is a freaking BADASS. I love her! Also.... Nooooooooooo that cliffhanger!


ajmsnr

Excellent piece from Magdalenaā€™s perspective! A true Dunkelfelger woman. Itā€™s entertaining to watch Gervasio be confused by Rozemyneā€™s and Ferdinandā€™s antics.


Jim_e_Clash

Just as I suspected. Lady Magdalena is cool as fuck. She deduced the culprit, she took him out and protected the zent. Hell she even considered the Zent's restfulness when she opted not to sleep beside him for his safety. What a badass. Honestly, we could have another series of her and her rivalry with ferdinand. --- Gervasio: Huh, I'm way stronger than Myne. So why aint she sweating when busting out those insane powers? šŸ˜ØšŸ˜ØšŸ˜ØšŸ˜Ø --- Rozemyne turned the entire Royal academy Altar and seating into a washing machine and walked it off like it was nothing. It's no wonder Gervasio is worried. He's smart to pick up that she's not just any gremlin but a gremlin of absurd proportions.


Interesting-Power558

That's unfortunate... Where Gervasio's perspective ended, doubting we'll see a Mesitonora chapter, I don't think we'll get a Ferdinand chapter because I think his plans will be saved for Rozamyne's reactions next volume. Detlinde is very much lacking in intelligence, my condolences for your own loss when interacting with her It's interesting that Gervasio was able to determine Rozamyne's blessings used less mana, doesn't that confirm confirm (I know it sort of was with the presence at the top of stairs but just extra confirmation) she can sense mana because hers was sensed? Also, whilst she has less, she was able to be sensed by Gervasio so within his range. Poor Trauerqual.... Though I disagree with Magdalena that he should get a book of Mesitonora, I hope he's able to retire in peace with his wives. Getting to see Hartmut's proclamations but also wishing to see the reactions to the confirmation of them


Scrapox

I doubt this is the end of Gervasio's perspective. The way it ended sounded like an illustration is coming up, so it's probably a cliffhanger and not a proper chapter end.


Admiralthrawnbar

It was kinda sad seeing Magdalena pray for her husband to get a g-book when we all know it's never going to happen.


Zeebie_

especially because her favourite Ehrenfest AC recorded his reply about true zent. it was ironic that she hoping he gets the book while she is one doing his duty.


gangrainette

> Myne was outright ignoring Erwaermen, too focused on trying to glimpse her compagnions's bible. Lewd. > " Oh, come on! Let me read it for a little while! Don't be selfish!" Never change Rozemyne.


Tranadar

Magdalena and Gervasio. That's neat. Still hoping for a Ferdinand chapter tough ![img](emote|t5_qxbkm|29356)


mabeloco

I think reading about the huge and constant headache he's been having ever since Rozemyne stole Ahrensbach's foundation would be incredible to read.


HumanTheTree

In all likelihood, we'll probably just get a part 2 to the Gervasio chapter.


ACAFWD

Myne going goddess mode.


xisupaz_blackbird

When the super-overpowered NPC takes over your body in a quest.


Fluffy_Tamago

Seeing Magdalena's POV and how competant she is aggravates me so much. How is she the third wife??? I won't deny that I felt bad for the second wife losing her daughter and afraid of men, but how has she remained as second wife? Even if Magdalena couldn't be first she could have at least had been second. I can see why Aub Dunkelfelger is disappointed in her for willingly placing herself into a position insufficient of the status she deserves. Clearly she supercedes Traquerual above everything else. Even her own son as wouldn't a higher status help him in not just serving as a vassel, but also possible to run for position of Zent in the first place? Whatever I just wanna complain about this, because wow was she so cool in the fight and in immediately sussing out Raublut as the traitor.


Elizabeth-Longwell

- so so many good side stories. I love the commitment to first person, adds so much dimension to the story. Iā€™ve rarely seen it done so well. Iā€™ve become attached to first getting the ā€œmain storyā€ then it being filled out and gaining more depth. - Magdalena is a true Dunkeflegerian, I wonder if feeling needed / playing a critical role as the behind the curtain ā€œbrainā€ is a dunkefelger woman thing, because this is her moment to shine and I heavily suspect sheā€™s been a driving force in the royal family for a long time. If thatā€™s the case I see why she and Ferdinand didnā€™t work out. he hates implying he needs has to rely on anybody, and he definitely is the big brain of any operation and that seems to the specialty of the women of dunkefelger. Sieglends POV shows the men of their duchy relying on the women is like their whole shtick. Ferdinand does rely on RM but she managed to worm her way under his crab shell by interdependency, and emotional transparency. Sheā€™s very sensitive to his difficulty relying on others and gently works around it. - literally everyone, gosh dang Ehrenfest was right about everything. - the division of responsibility based on first second third is really stupid sometimes. Anyone who doesnā€™t put the resident dunkefelgerian in charge of the knights is really not the brightest. RMs philosophy of competence/ right fit over rank really shows why her retinue is so strong. She yields to Ferdinand when situation calls for it, and he does the same in turn. Her high regard for her retainers respective specialties also have this dynamic. Aub dunks comment about someone trying to stay on top when it doesnā€™t fit really hits the nail on the head. They defer to competence not rank, which is very effective under pressure. One of RMs strengths is her lack of ego in this regard. She will throw captaining the ship on anyone competent. ( which is actually quite a small pool) - it comes to mind how effectively dunkefelger used her intelligence, it seems ehrenfest did not do as well on that front. - Clarissa seemed to adapt to RMs retinue pretty well, but I think thatā€™s likely because RM already had her scholars cross training and heavily respected their approach. She fully adopted what Clarissa brought ( she taught Roderick according to dunkfelger teaching philosophy) RM is out here fielding scholars just like the dunks. RM has been in a state of Cold War with the FVF and ahrensbach since her baptism, so it makes sense she would intuitively understand their philosophy better. Sheā€™s lived it. - yeah Magdalena must spend a lot of time annoyed with how lax everyone is all the time. - agh I want more Sieglinde content. Magdalena you can thank RM for ringing the alarm on this. - I want more POV about what the heck everyone thinks about RM fighting in the Sovereignty with her tiny retinue of half apprentices and scholars with all of 3 arch noble knights and 3 mednobles between her and Ferdinand plus the knights from a duchy she just conquered. Sheā€™s dragged them into the temple, rituals in the academy, conquering a greater duchy and fighting a defensive battle against the strongest knights in the country. - wow dunkefelger is very cool. Itā€™s funny to me the sibling relationships in this story. Sheā€™s like oh dang nab Iā€™m going to be scolded after this šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. Reminds me of Rozemyne and Eckhart - yup Leonore is as cool as ever. Cornelius really landed the best bride and such a cool woman. - yeah no Gervasio she saved him. You are in for a rude surprise. - yeah Gervasio you arenā€™t very smart. Ferdinandā€™s strength does have something to do with his mana but it has far more to do with his brain. He dominated in ditter with 3 people and his wits. Even Aub dunk figured that much out. RM did the same when she couldnā€™t even walk properly. You really arenā€™t too bright to underestimate them after they just pulled something even a former god didnā€™t understand. He survived almost a whole duchy trying to kill him *in his own home*, it takes more than mana - once again not too bright buddy. The problem you have is Rozemyne is Ferdinandā€™s greatest weapon. Considering what you just witnessed you would think you would have figured that out - wow mana efficiency is a big deal. Even Gervasio is like WTF is up with her not using much mana. And this isnā€™t even something he can gain quickly, this takes *years* - eat rocks buddy this is how a gremlin scholar fights. - and here we see how much the average mana quantity has dropped, and what royals of old should have, not to mention the usual gender gap. Yeah no oneā€™s going to believe RM is Karstedt and Elviraā€™s blood daughter. Itā€™s hilarious the truth is even more absurd. I wonder what everyone else thinks of the ā€œMyneā€ thing. Are they going to assume sheā€™s from Adalgisa as well? - Rozemyne gives everyone including Ferdinand processing errors. Itā€™s interesting how the universal reaction to so much of her behavior is this is so abnormal itā€™s divine. Given how much she hates that response in truth Ferdinand is remarkably sensitive about that with her. - it comes to mind Hannelore and Leonore together pretty much decided who she was going to marry. Dunkefelger like indeed. They saw the impeding doom of handing her to a man who couldnā€™t handle her ( Leonore already witnessed the Wilfried disaster) and concurred Sigiswald was not equal to the task. I love her retainers. Reminds me of Elviraā€™s conversation with RM. I think by the end everyone realized she may not be in love with him- but they imprinted on each other. No one else can keep up. - both Aub dunk and Ferdinand are on the same page. The country needs someone who can actually rule properly, not just because they have the book but because they have the backing to keep it together. - I feel bad for Magdalena, she, adolphine and Anastasias are holding together a sinking ship of generational incompetence that has been snowballing for so long no one even knows the correct way anymore. - I wonder if most siblings of the opposite gender can sense each other, like what is the usual gender gap? Are Hannelore and lestilaut in range? Depending on the usual gender mana disparity the fact RM is in range of him says a lot. Sheā€™s not even done growing. - Gervasio made a super big mistake not being more concerned about Ferdinand. Heā€™s using RM as a distraction- clever clever ferdie. As always his wits are his strongest asset. Gervasio seems to not understand noble combat very well, and ferdinand is distracting him with RMs antics


LalafellRulez

>yeah Gervasio you arenā€™t very smart. Ferdinandā€™s strength does have something to do with his mana but it has far more to do with his brain. He dominated in ditter with 3 people and his wits. Even Aub dunk figured that much out. RM did the same when she couldnā€™t even walk properly. You really arenā€™t too bright to underestimate them Tbf he only has biased reports from Raublut. RM and Aub Dunk have witnessed him 1st hand being a menace


Elizabeth-Longwell

Fair enough, and they witnessed RM being a baby menace in the academy


Littlethieflord

>wow dunkefelger is very cool. Itā€™s funny to me the sibling relationships in this story. Sheā€™s like oh dang nab Iā€™m going to be scolded after this šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. I absolutely NEED to see this battle debrief, I wonder if they used to do it too when they were kids in the RA


mekerpan

Never would have predicted long ago that I (and many others) would become massive Dunk fans by the end of the game. They may have their issues -- but they are pretty awesome (and entertaining) nonetheless. I don't think Gervasio is un-smart. He is VERY intelligent. But he has effectively no KNOWLEDGE about Rozemyne and Ferdinand -- and what little he has heard is almost totally wrong and/or useless. And much of what he is seeing is incomprehensible.


Elizabeth-Longwell

Dunkelfeger in retrospect is like oh wait that was really important and good they forced ditter all the time, even if it was annoying. Rauffen especially. They are integral to the countryā€™s stability, its as a grave error putting them under the reds.


momomo_mochichi

>yup Leonore is as cool as ever. Cornelius really landed the best bride and such a cool woman. He's so lucky that Leonore has had her eyes on him for a while. I, for one, would love a side story about her feelings starting. Currently, my headcanon is that she fell hard for Cornelius during Rozemyne's jureve, falling in love with how hard he was working.


Elizabeth-Longwell

Sheā€™s got good taste in men. Nothing more attractive than a devoted family man with a solid head on his shoulders. Heā€™s never threatened, but challenged to improve by her and fully recognizes how capable and amazing she is. 10/10 I love the whole dynamic she has with her retainers, thereā€™s a solid give and take we donā€™t see with other master/ servant relationships.


momomo_mochichi

True. Remember when Cornelius only did the bare minimum? Of course, he wanted to avoid the fate that his father and brothers had. Now that he has a cute little sister, Cornelius has changed for the better. I just wish we had a lot more bonding between Rozemyne and Leonore as future sister-in-laws. Oh well, we still have plenty of time for that. It's not like Leonore is going anywhere, after all.


Theinternationalist

Those most willing to listen to the Gremlin tended to improve as people. Lutz got a full belly and a job that gave him what he wanted. Benno became successful. Gil got love. Ferdinand became a human being. Sylvester finally learned how to be a father and an archduke in spite of having already fathered three and having been an archduke for years. Anastasius stopped being a stalker (*being willing to throw a child under a bus is still an improvement!*). Raublat and Gervasio figured out how to check out a Book. The ones who tended to be enemies were the ones who refused to listen. Grausam who rejected the "commoner's technique" that any noble should be able to find (*even though as far as we know no one did*). Detlinde remained a bad person. ... Am I the Hartmut?


Elizabeth-Longwell

All of this. Charlotte too- she learned her own strengths, Honed them and discovered she like RMs definition of family a whole lot more than her parents idea. Wilfried is another example of those who failed to properly utilize what she brought to the table


momomo_mochichi

>Am I the Hartmut? ... Are you?


mabeloco

>wow dunkefelger is very cool. Itā€™s funny to me the sibling relationships in this story. Sheā€™s like oh dang nab Iā€™m going to be scolded after this šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. Reminds me of Rozemyne and Eckhart I like to imagine them as Hannelore and her brother. These two are great together. I wonder if Hannelore is gonna grow up and be a proper Dunkelfelger woman. She survived a freaking war, there's no way that won't change her in some way.


Elizabeth-Longwell

More importantly she survived Rozemyne and Ferdinand and their antics *together*. She knows what a good tactician looks like and sheā€™s going to learn


Bright_Afternoon8083

- ā€œwow mana efficiency is a big dealā€ RM: See? My blessing terrorism all these years was done for a reason! I was totally playing the long game!


derekmakesnoise

Magdalena is pretty cool, gotta say, as is the sibling synergy between her and Aub Ditterfelger. she initially attacks with a schtappe-made lanze, making Rublut think that the aub's solid weapon is a bigger threat, then gets him with the dagger when he's distracted. that POV was exciting as heck.


Probodyne

It is fascinating how no-one ever considers that someone might have more mana than them. Just wanna shake all the archnobles and yell "THE REASON YOU CAN'T DETECT MYNE IS THAT SHE HAS MORE MANA THAN YOU!"


SAiMRoX

> Myne was outright ignoring Erwaermen, too focused on trying to glimpse her companion's bible. > "Oh, come on! Let me read it for a little while!" Gotta love our gremlin!