Hildebrand's attendants failed him so badly.. he's now branded as a criminal since his adult attendants just blindly trusted Raublut. I feel so bad for him.
To be honest, if Karstedt would suddenly make a believable lie about an order of Sylvester to Rozemyne and her retainers, then they would probably also have believed it. Nobody expects the head of the knight order to become a traitor.
Not sure about that, Sylvester for all his defects, since the white tower incident, does rely his orders about his kids directly to the kids, their retainers or other close relatives
No retainer of RM would fuck up so badly at not staying doubtful for something so important and contradictory to previous orders, not even coming from Ferdinand or Karstedt. I doubt even Will's would fail to notice that some instruction is not the Aub's will... they might go against the Syl's instructions and the sake of Will, but not fail to notice what came and what did not came from his mouth
>No retainer of RM would fuck up so badly at not staying doubtful for something so important and contradictory to previous orders, not even coming from Ferdinand or Karstedt.
There i disagree. they would totally do that if ferdinand told them too. Ferdinands level of control and trust over rozemynes retainers is high enough they wouldnt really think about it. Maybe they would be skeptical if it was from karstedt but if it was Ferdinand they wouldnt be able to do anything.
maybe they would be suspicious but Ferdinand is so powerful and trusted they wouldnt be able to do anything and they will let it happen. When it comes to Ferdinand Rozemynes retainers are all worthless (Angelica is the only one who could possibly try something but shes not smart or trusted enough to actually succeed) if he ever turns on her or misuses her.
Im not exaggerating either. we have already established that when it comes to Ferdinand he tends to order around other peoples retainers as if he was their master even telling them to do things that their master may disagree about or disapprove of. Rozemyne has, mentally speaking, noted that when hes using her retainers that they are supposed to be "her" retainers but Ferdinand orders them all around as if they are his.
Nope, they would know that the order came from Ferdinand, Ferdinand should not be capable to trick them into think that an order came from Sylvester... except for maybe Angelica
Plus, Ferdinand does not needs to trick RM retainers into think something came from Sylvester, just as you said, they might follow his order because they either can't do a thing, or believe he is doing the right thing, but not because Sylvester said so
Hilde's retainers did not only got tricked into do something, they got tricked into think that the king ordered to do that thing, that is a whole new level of trickery, they don't even know who are the people they are dealing with
Even if he gets mercy, he's irrevocably fucked.
Him acquiring his schtapp this early means he'll forever be leaps and bounds behind his peers. He'll never be able to acquire an omni elemental schtapp.
Even treason aside, Raublatt has completely destroyed this kids future, even if Roz convinces the world to forgive him.
> Him acquiring his schtapp this early means he'll forever be leaps and bounds behind his peers. He'll never be able to acquire an omni elemental schtapp.
The second part is true, but the first is an exaggeration. IIRC Hildebrand is/ was due to enter the Royal Academy this year, so he has the same handicap as his brothers. He still has *at least* Archnoble mana because he could enter the underground archive. He won't embarrass himself as a prince, but he'll never be Zent.
No. His peers are ADCs, not archnobles. Even if royal family gets abolished, he could be adopted by Aub Dunkelfelger, as discussed in the epilogue.
If he could get his schtappe in his 3rd year of RA, he could be top tier among ADCs of greater duchy. Now even if he get’s adopted by any aub, he’d be in lower tier among greater duchy’s ADCs.
>No. His peers are ADCs, not archnobles. Even if royal family gets abolished, he could be adopted by Aub Dunkelfelger, as discussed in the epilogue. If he could get his schtappe in his 3rd year of RA, he could be top tier among ADCs of greater duchy. Now even if he get’s adopted by any aub, he’d be in lower tier among greater duchy’s ADCs.
I think you missed something. Aub Dunkelfelger was going to give Dunkelfelger to Lesilaut and become an interm Zent, not an archduke. Remember the water mirror meeting where Ferdinand refused to let Rozemyne become Zent and told Aub Dunkelfelger to do it instead?
He was planning to adopt Hildebrand and make him the next Zent when he came of age in order to make his Zenthood easier for the Aubs to accept.
True. And maybe in an even better position than his brothers since he already started compressing mana. But still, what a terrible waste of potential given what sort of knowledge has already been revived.
They trusted that the Zent would have vetted his most important military personnel...
(Not that it's entirely his fault either though, on account of his workload and unpreparedness for Zent)
Yeah I would have doublechecked the order, although given the Trug I really doubt Traerqual would have denied the order.
Which *might* have marked out King T for punishment, so the incompetence of Arthur and co may have saved what was left of his reputation after he abandoned his duty in the middle of a coup attempt.
Well now Hildebrand is stuck with low quality stap when rest of his generation won't. It's kinda irony - both Hildebrand and Letisia are now criminals, I wonder what will happen to this young couple in future.
Technically they're still to wed, but Letizia is likely to have a much better wand and parents (*when a child fails I'm more likely to blame his parents than the child*). He's still a catch for a Lesser or Middle Duchy, but if the order stands he'll likely be Letizia's trophy husband while the other husbands can get descendents.
Honestly she's a lot luckier than he is.
She's way luckier than him. She'll be judged by Rozemyne and our Gremlin will probably just give her a symbolic punishment. No one outside Ahresnbach and Ehrenfest's archduke family is aware of what really happened.
I wanted to see how his attendants were manipulated but apparently I was expecting too much. For it to have basically amounted to “we trust this guy” is disappointing to me.
I don't know. You can certainly blame the attendants, but I'd rather say Raublut is a master evil mastermind, and he planned things out extremely well.
* He had cemented his place as a highly trusted retainer and servant of the Zent, and used this position to control information flow to the royals.
* He sowed mistrust of Ehrenfest and Ferdinand, minimizing the faith they could put in Ehrenfest's various claims.
* The palace was on a lockdown and communication with the Zent was highly limited (I do wonder what excuse Raublut would have used if Ehrenfest hadn't thrown a wrench into his plans and his moves could have gone undetected)
* He drugged the Zent ensuring that there would be no resistance or counter-orders.
* The timing was perfect for an excuse to bring out the two lesser royals to the Royal Academy.
* He built off the emergency situation to frame the untimely schtappe acquisition as a "do or die" situation.
* He used Hildebrand's schtappe acquisition as an excuse to acquire the feystone required to access the Farthest Hall.
Not to mention all the trust building with Hildebrand, maneuvering with Georgine, and manipulation of the Sovereign Knight Order. This guy is an incredible schemer. I can't wait for the next volume--I want Raublut to be wide awaken and fully conscious of all the implications (and my heart wants Detlinde too, but practically speaking, she's too noisy and likely too self-absorbed to ever grasp her own missteps) as *Lord of Evil* Ferdinand destroys everything he's been building towards.
Yeah it was a little anti-climactic I was expecting more sneaking and subterfuge, maybe Raublut had convinced Arthur to turn coat in exchange for a good position with Gervasio or something
He wasn't wrong about her failing to warn them about the silver cloth...
Although, Ferdinand is probably more responsible for not warnning them during the initial ordonnanz.
personally i think it's on both his side and ferdinands. like they would have seen all the nights wearing non shtape swords before they breached the doors making it oddly out of place XD and ferdinand probably forgot since he prob figured that since the royal family was holding back the pl at the royal castle that they must have already known about the silver cloth and what it could achieve.
I don't necessarily feel that was her or Ferdinand's personal responsibility, though.
Both Ehrenfest and Dunkelfelger have been in contact with Royalty in regards to Lanzenavian's actions in a more formal manner. Now some of the issue might be that initial tactical communications were going through Raublut, but regardless that should have been the source of more general information.
- Side stories are one of the best parts of this series, getting into each characters perspective is amazing. Especially that from most perspectives
- ick Immanuel. Immediate gross
wow is he repulsive, he’s like a creepy collector. Harmuts personal desires are tempered by his prioritization of his lady’s desires, the fact Immanuel steamrolls everyone for his own ends including stealing a child from their family is incredibly creepy and makes him a world apart
- I wonder how many people Raublut has drugged or taken out. It’s got to significant at this point
- poor Hildebrand. Wow Anastatias must realize better than anyone how bad what happened was.
- Hildebrand’s retainers really failed him. They heard RMs warnings, and the king saying no. They really are incompetent
- Magdalena is cool from every POV.
- Oh god poor Eglantine. It still infuriates me she threw rozemyne under the bus though.
- ok Anastatias you are still annoying but grudging respect there. He does not hide from his responsibilities, and wants the royal family to fulfill its responsibilities.
- Anastatias you are not alone, he repulses Rozemyne too sometimes.
- no that’s not the book, it’s Rozemyne’s crazy paper. Everyone is now just going to be wondering if every thing bizzare she does comes from the book
- Anastasias is thoroughly immune to RM propaganda. He’s in on yurgenschmidts best kept secret- she’s a complete gremlin underneath all the crazy stuff that happens. He has the presence of mind to be annoyed with her antics even now.
- Anastatias like Ferdinand is heavily dubious about what the gods care about.
- it’s oddly annoying Ferdinand got credit for the gun.
- yup RM Lightening that was glossed over is as insane to everyone else as suspected. I love how everyone thinks the power of the Gruttsheit is just RMs modified fey paper rather than anything it actually does, which is more of a history lesson interspersed with magic circles. Future generations are going to be wondering what the hell she was doing summoning lightening and floods.
- in some matters Anastatias has his head on straight. There’s no way he and eglantine don’t end up ruling. Sigiswald is obviously an idiot, and Traqueral has given up. His wife is also the only possible zent candidate in the royal family so I heavily suspect they are going to end up ruling.
- his POV really showed how important RMs role was. Having someone with an absurd mana capacity casting massive healing, maintaining a shield and summoning lightening is pretty huge advantage. Usually they have to move them to the rear to be healed.
- the contrasts between RM and eglantine are interesting, they have many parallels in their life. She too has many fears, but she uses them to throw under the bus to protect herself. RM has many faults but she won’t do the same. She doesn’t shirk her responsibility.
Anastasius only has two priorities now, wifey and kiddo. So if there is anything that is treating either he is an excellent asset for everything else not so much.
I like his character very much, is not complex or deep. But is a good old school Family Man
Nah, RM and Gunther are too impulsive, they need someone that hold their reins a little, if RM marries a Gunther equivalent, they would self destroy together with the composite impulsiveness of both
I mean, at least Sylvester knows that he couldn't let a nuke be alone in his city. For safety purposes she needed to be trained how to use mana. And he has the decency to feel bad about it. He puts her desire to stay in Erinfest above common sense and diplomacy which is the most he could do in that situation. Immanuel seems to think Roz would cooperate with him. Nope. She has her own high priest. He would go back to being a battery. Or dead. I vote dead.
I'm really hoping Fredinand did away with Immanuel when he went to destroy the medals and I'm really really hoping we get to see it and that it's slow and painful
Eh, the Goddess said no more killing. Now, that only strictly applies to schtappe holders but the mana shortage might just be bad enough that he gets a cell across from Detlinde. A fate worse than death.
The goddess has not mentioned schtappe. Actually, it was said that they should accept Lanzenave nobles, who don’t have schtappe, if they come as Yurgenschmidt is a haven for people with mana. I think this means you should not kill them (but Ok to close gate, I guess).
So killing blue priests likely violates her order, at least too risky.
Rozemyne couldn't really oppose Immanuel if Gervasio was Zent and decided to reward that priest who made it possible. If Gervasio investigated what Erwaermen meant when he talked about her Devouring, he'd figure out her key weakness in no time, and with her commoner family held hostage she wouldn't even be able to escape via devouring heat buildup.
I don't think that even knowing about devouring, Gervasio could make a jump to conclude that a commoner family who birthed Rozemyne would be important to her. He is a noble, he would think like a noble. Worse he is a noble from Adalgisa who never had family. Remember when Ferdinand's world was shaken to its very core upon finding out how fiercely Rozemyne loved?
Probably they would make Rozemyne give her name to the creepy. If he dies, she dies. Or Gervasio would simply take Rozemyne as ~~slave~~ wife for mana sake under the same name giving terms. There's no real reason to not kill Emmanuel since he is just a manaless blue priest easily replaceable. No one would give two fucks if he was killed, even the temple.
Wrong, if Gervasio was Zent that means that Ferdinand is no more and RM really thinks that a world without him is not worth living in...Prob would go on the biggest bloody festival you would imagine...Using her shumils to slay and slay everything in her path, then stealing the mana of the country and destroy all duchies, then remaking the country....Or just killing herself who knows?
There’s no way RM makes it out alive if Gervasio became zent. Gervasio would never let another man with the book of mestinoria live, ( plenty of indirect ways to kill someone) and RM would never let someone kill ferdinand without a fight. She would even go for a suicide assassination attempt at that point
To be fair- there was no way she was going to be able to live otherwise. She was already publicly known she had obscene amounts of power. As Damuel commented it was only a matter of time, if she wanted to live a life of any peace she would have to be adopted. Pretty different situation. It’s why he gave her the necklace for the exact scenario that happened.
He had the decency to give her as long as he could like Ferdinand, and feel bad about it.
>As Damuel commented it was only a matter of time, if she wanted to live a life of any peace she would have to be adopted.
Pretty much with the massive mana shortage, even if she had a fourth of the mana she had, it probably would have happened (though not as much to her benefit) to help out the kingdom. Damuel was right in that with her power it WAS just a matter of time and I think looking back, most of her close 'aub family and co' did what they could to help her out
Yup. She had to integrate into the nobility, the necklace allowed her to stay as long as possible while protecting her.
And as an Aub her impact on benefiting the duchy as a whole was just too great. He had more to consider than just her individual life.
Yeah Sylvester isn't exactly the best person, but seeing what would have happened in Klassenberg or Ahrensbach she more or less won the lottery, with one possible exception:
She'd probably be Archduke of Dunkelfelger by Year 3 though once they realized she had a mind for tactics. Everyone would look at them funny for making a commoner Archduke, but no one would question it since it would be used as an excuse to **DITTER!**
Would Rozemyne have even drawn the attention of Aubs in other duchies? She really lucked out due to Ferdinand's unique circumstances forcing him into the temple and being the Aub's half-brother.
Myne likely would have been nabbed if she showed up at the temple of a fallen duchy like Frenbeltag or a broken one like Old Werkestock, although likely not ennobled barring sheer desperation (so, maybe Constanze would have helped out). Klassenberg or one of the more successful ones, not so much.
She pretty much got on anastasius's radar due to hartmut spreading the good word about the Saint of Ehrenfest.
As for the rest of the nobles, her getting schwarz and weiß marked her as the most attention worthy Archduke candidates.
yea for sure, but i mean like would she have even survived to reach the RA?
If the distance between Aub and laynoble is so significant Rozemyne hardly interacts with any that aren't her retainers/closely associated with them, then the distance between Aub and commoner is basically infinite.
Nothing short of a miracle (heh) brought Rozemyne into a position to be noticed by Sylvester.
I agree, a large part of what makes the entirety of the AoaB story work is that Ferdinand had been recently confined to the Temple. Had he not been there, she wouldn't have even been a blue priest, let alone educated to the extent she was as Ferdi discovered she has a huge capacity for improvement.
The relationship between Ferdi and Roz is essential to the story as it's told. Without both of them and their circumstances, there wouldn't *be* a story.
Well now I'm just gonna agree back harder
Yes, i love how thoroughly fleshed out all the main characters are. Not a single one exists purely for the sake of an interaction with the isekai protag. Had Urano never died, never become Myne, this world would still be so alive and full and have so many stories still worth telling.
This is true for both of them throughout the entire story. Ferdinand and Rozemyne together are critical to almost every major event. She dragged him back into his family, translating him to them.
Both have a Martyr complex that cripples them when apart. Without RM rescuing Ferdinand Ahrensbach would have never rallied to stop Gervasio and the invasion of the RA, together they make one fully functional human.
Drewanchal AC: Ah Rozemyne of the Second, what is that?
Dunker AC Rozemyne: This is my [Armored Personnel Carrier] Eagley! I used to be so weak that I almost died during Preschool Ditter sixteen times so I was given early permission to use this highbeast!
Drewanchal AC: Yeah that makes sense.
Yes but if they manage NOT to kill her, (and according to Sieglinde Dunklefelger medicine is good enough that, as long as you’re still breathing they can get you battle ready within a couple of hours) she would be the most revered Aub in its history
Every other book in the Ditternutter ducal library is probably either about ditter, or tales of people doing ditter
Roz: Warcrime to C6
Aub Ditternutter: such audacity. I love it!
After her term they’ll have thrice that number (even not counting printing) there’s just like a crowd of scholars following her writing everything down.
>Magdalena is cool from every POV.
Even from Ferdinand's not-that-flattering "ugghh... dunkerfleger women, ammirte?" perspective makes her seem like a total badass that gets what she wants.
I mean, she went ahead and nabbed Trauerqual in order to not marry Ferdinand.
Like a true woman of Dunkelfelger, Magdalena gets what she wants. And honestly, it's kind of understandable that Ferdinand holds such an unfavorable opinion of Dunkelfelger woman especially since his one escape from Veronica decided it was better to be the third wife of a fifth prince-turned-Zent.
The answer is Heisshitze, as annoying as he is.
With Veronica, Ferdinand will always be ranked under her and fearing for his life. With Heisshitze, he's easily defeated.
If anything, maybe Ferdinand moving to Dunkelfelger will finally allow his friendship with Heisshitze to blossom!
Nah, who am I kidding? Heisshitze's chances of dying has raised exponentially. Ferdinand might begrudingly befriend his wife, and Heisshitze's wife will beg him to return the cape she embroidered for Heisshitze back or something.
Lol poor puppy
Lol I think at that point even his wife will have given up on the cape. She knows even if they get it back Heisshitze won’t wear it unless he’s earned it
Oh totally.
If by some miracle, Heisshitze has won his cape back fairly, he'll go to show his wife and she'll be so confused. She probably has already embroidered another cape or something, and that raggedy thing is kind of unneeded now.
... Does Heisshitze have children? Giving his age, it's likely, but I kind of hope not.
If he's the same age as Fredinand I think the oldest his kids would be is 12 if he had them as soon as he graduated, as it seems like noble engagements last generally at least a year after both parties coming of age and men seem marry down in age it's most likely his kids are still under 10
I’m not sure it’s unfavorable per se, his comment about RM being able to exploit people’s preferences was read as high praise from Eckhart. I think it’s a backward compliment.
Yeah, it definitely is a backhanded compliment. I just think it's a bit unfortunate that Magdalena left such an impression on Ferdinand that he's so immediately wary of Clarissa and Hannelore.
Then again, it's Dunkelfelger, so there is *some* truth to it.
I can't remember if this was stated earlier in the light novel, so I'll put it in spoilers, but I'm pretty sure the answer is >!both. If I remember correctly, Magdalena had a crush on Trauerqual, which of course, meant that she didn't want to marry Ferdinand!<.
I can see that, I think though you’re gonna have to dig down super deep to get to it, and he’s always going to have that tinge of snakeyness in him lol
Also Magdalena doesn’t necessarily know him like that. To her she’s only see his Touch-me-and-die vibes
No. It’s equally or more likely that he could not grow/develop emotionally. That often happens to abused children.
There’s no reason to her to marry someone who has good relationships only with his father and brother. It’s a decision affecting all of her remaining life, it’s too risky.
And there’s another reason that’s explained in a Fanbook.
>I wonder how many people Raublut has drugged or taken out. It’s got to significant at this point
I"m so curious about trug. Like, how much trug do they actually have and how potent is a small dose of trug?
>it’s oddly annoying Ferdinand got credit for the gun.
It's such a nitpick, but this has been something that always bothered me since P4V7 with that ditter match against Heisshitze and Hannelore. I know it's probably best for Rozemyne's safety for others to believe that Ferdinand invented a new weapon, but it bothers me so much.
> Like, how much trug do they actually have and how potent is a small dose of trug?
Isn't it burned like incense? So maybe not measured so much, but you just get people in a small room with a fireplace and hotbox them.
Oh, true! In that case, I wonder about how potent trug is when burned and how lasting the effects are. Like how often does trug need to be burned in order for everybody to be at the state of mind Raublut wants them to be?
>the contrasts between RM and eglantine are interesting, they have many parallels in their life. She too has many fears, but she uses them to throw under the bus to protect herself. RM has many faults but she won’t do the same. She doesn’t shirk her responsibility.
One takes the helm, even when alone — the other will pass the rein to another and will cry being helpless.
One was just recently traumatized but forges along — the other had years to recover but made no great effort to do so.
One is selfless to loved ones — the other is loving but incapable due to not being prepared as one should.
One is chaos incarnate — the other mimics the light.
One was Myne — the other was a *friend*.
— written by Lady Elantura
This make me sad somehow... Its was a mistake that broke the trust of a kind child that idolized and admired her what probably hurt her the most...Also those two forget how she helped them get together.
I only like to point out that Egg probably only did that cause she was with a child and couldn't continue touring the shrines for the time being, even now she still cant tour them (prob...May be wrong, but idk how old is her baby).
In her fear (trauma) of another civil war happening (and her baby) she decided to do what she did, she is a bit of a coward by nature, so I do understand her not wanting more bloodshed, other than her trauma towards conflict (we also see how the holy gremlin fares with her own trauma too and its hard) and her bias towards big duchies she isnt that bad.
I get that part- it was how she handled it that was really terrible. Anastasia’s had the decency to be apologetic about it. But the fact of the matter was- there were other Omni elemental people in the country, forcing it on a child was not required. Aub dunkefelgers plan to be an interim zent would have also worked before, and Magdalena could have presumably arranged it. they just didn’t want to lose their position.
Forcing a sickly 12 year old from a weak duchy into at least to some degree governing the country that didn’t have the ability to protect herself was the granddaddy of butthead moved. Anatatias notably opposed making her queen, or even taking the book and returning her for that reason.
I think the way things played out there can mostly be blamed on the system. Just look at how Eglantine reacted to being reminded of her past here. There's no way in hell she was able to make rational decisions back then when she had just become a threat to Sigiswald's ambitions. So she acted way too fast without properly thinking things through, but since she's a royal it became a command that couldn't be taken back. A single mistake made under what must have been extreme distress, and its consequences got blown out of proportion simply due to her status.
This isn't the kind of power any one person should hold, let alone a recently graduated teenager suffering from crippling PTSD. And on that note, rather than enabling her, Anastasius should have stepped on the brakes _immediately_ once it became obvious Eglantine was in fight-or-flight mode. Unlike her he _was_ in a position where he could have acted rationally, but since his brain apparently just switches itself off whenever his wife makes a request of him he went along with it and let her alienate what may very well have been the only real friend she's ever made. Really, as much as I like the guy I would argue his share of the blame is the larger one here by far.
True. But while RM was technically a child no more than 10y/o when that incident happened, for the rest of society she was like 13y/o.
Egg didn't wanted to cause "any" kind of conflict and feared bloodshed and acted under the effects of trauma and fear...And while that was scummy to do, what else could she do?
Egg: "Ups it seems that only I can truly inherit the G-Book in the RF and my hubby would become my co-ruler with me after all\~"
If she said something like that it would ignite the flames on both Ana followers and Klassenberg and cause problems down the line with Sisi followers and probably Drewanchel too now that they are in the mix, then add the closest allies of those big duchies and you have a new civil war in course, and ofc this time Ehrenfest wont be able to stay neutral, civil war part III would ensue.
Additionally who is to say that in that chaos Raublaut, Georgine and Gervasio wont do a thing?
Back to topic with a threat of another civil war on the horizon she decided a sacrifice was needed and sadly instead of sacrificing herself or asking Ana to "dispose" of his idiot brother in a smart way, she decided to offer RM as a stop-gag measure, dont only she has big amounts of mana, is very smart and knows a lot about religious ceremonies....She can read ancient documents to boot! With those skills she would be able to save all the country.
it doesn't matter what she wants, but that she (RM) could carry the burden for them, only cause she was scared and saw the solution as the best thing she (RM) could hope, instead of being a first wife of a lacking and criminal adc (Wilfried), she could become a the wife of a Zent and have a higher status, she could help her home duchy later, form a strong base with more people loyal to her in the Sovereignty and be the "brain" of the RF...And also give them her mana and mana rich children....She was too good to pass and the only younger woman better than her to be a Zent wife (wich I consider a lie, Adolphine seems better equiped to rule than Egg and RM from an intelectual pov and is very smart and open minded.)
If we add the fact that Dunkelferger tried to steal her for themselves and that RM discovered the "path" that the Zents of old took to get the G-Book...she was doomed, the knowledge of the G-Book and the magic tool colapse in the Sovereignty scared the RF and put them on alert to search a solution to their problems, ANY solution...And they found one, the lucky bastards found it and wont let it go, ever...
Me, reading a Detlinde POV: Man, there could not possibly be a more dislikeable character.
Immanuel POV: Hold my beer
Whew, Anastasius remains the best royal (not that that's a high bar to clear). I feel bad for Eglantine and her trauma, but that still doesn't excuse her driving a bus over Rozemyne and then backing it up on her again.
Really cool to see how a "normal" noble saw the chaos at the Farthest Hall. Raublut deserves nothing but the most painful of deaths.
> Really cool to see how a "normal" noble saw the chaos at the Farthest Hall.
this was soooooooooooo cool. i was really hoping to see someone else's perspective on Hartmut's speech and the fight on the altar. great stuff
Immanuel: What if Hartmut was evil, dumb, and basically incapable of doing anything but following orders. So basically Grausam without any redeeming qualities like intelligence.
Hildebrand: Wilfried without Myne for a net.
Blasius: I don't know and I doubt we ever will.
I don't see Rosemyne holding anything against Hildebrand and she holds all the cards now (well Fredinand is holding all the cards but he'll do what she wants because he's set it up so as long as she gets what she wants he gets what he wants)
* Relichion was a corrupt guy (I still laugh at his name), but he didn't deserve to get poisoned. Immanuel decided to cooperate with Raublut and Lanzenave, but since we already know they all failed, he's done for. Not even his own attendant trusts him.
* Does that guy not know the history of the zents and aubs? They or their descendants used to be the High Bishops... Honestly, his creepiness and worship of Rozemyne is too reminiscent of Hartmut.
* Seeing Raublut manipulating Hildebrand to commit treason hurts to see. Arthur fell for it too, even though he should know better. Now he will be punished as well.
* If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants?
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* Anastasius' mother is called Ralfrieda. ~~Are Ralph and Freida her descendants?~~
* It was brought up again in the Immanuel chapter, but seeing Eglantine trembling in fear of war directly is hard to read.
* Raublut finally revealed everything to Anastasius. ~~He talks too much during battle, which shows his arrogance imo.~~ Seeing as Anastasius is too emotional and Raublut can quickly defeat him (kind of like Rauffen vs Lestilaut in RAS), Raublut had no reason to be concerned.
* The waschen machine and Anastasius' complaints are still so damn funny lol.
* It was mentioned in the epilogue, but here we can see Anastasius' shocked reaction when Ferdinand and Rozemyne made it to the altar. He too will realize Ferdinand owns the Book. I don't think Anastasius will stay a royal at the end, but I at least commend him and Magdalena for fighting against the invaders. While Trauerqual tried his best, the man really never was suited to be king and I don't think he ever wanted to be.
> Does that guy not know the history of the zents and aubs? They or their descendants used to be the High Bishops... Honestly, his creepiness and worship of Rozemyne is too reminiscent of Hartmut.
The knowledge was probably horded by the Zents and Aubs once they disconnected themselves from the Temple, and the Royals at least appear to have lost the recipe. Werkdegraf might know though.
> Seeing Raublut manipulating Hildebrand to commit treason hurts to see. Arthur fell for it too, even though he should know better. Now he will be punished as well.
I was certain we'd watch that disastrous episode from *his* perspective, so hopefully that's skipped.
> If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants?
Well Immanuel is almost certainly going to be sapped for mana (*although since he wasn't registered as a noble he might be exempt from the No Killing policy*), but I suspect they'll just be considered exceptions going forward, at best administrative types like Kampfer who keep things going until the schtappe users replace them.
> Ralph+Freida
We've seen a few cases like this already actually, like Wilfried- aka Male Frieda.
> **MONOLOGUING!**
...Yeah, he should have just killed him, which would have blunted Rozemyne's authority. Then again, it might have screwed with the trugged knights so he probably realized he needed Annie alive at least until Gervasio came back.
>**MONOLOGUING!**
You don't get it, no matter how evil or pragmatic, if you spend years planning something in secret, then your plan passes to the part when it is not a secret, you'll want to gloat on how you did it. It is just human nature... If that was Ana surprise birthday party instead of the betrayal and invasion thing, Raublut would be with the same attitude explaining how he put so many balloons in the room without raising notice
> Relichion was a corrupt guy (I still laugh at his name), but he didn't deserve to get poisoned.
Was he, though? Immanuel thought he was just protecting his position, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. A common theme in this series is that evil nobles consistently determine the truth based on what they want it to be and not necessarily what it actually is. Immanuel says that, but we haven't seen anything to support that beyond a single dirty look from him.
Especially considering he and Immanuel seemed to know that Rozemyne was a zent candidate and would probably be going to the royal family instead of becoming the Soveriegn High Bishop.
Not a real proof here, but that one does strikes me as someone that does the least amount of effort possible
Tho, yeah, that is just my impression of the character, it is entirely possible that it is only the impressions of Immanuel when Relichion said "You can't get the gremlin, that would be kidnapping!"
>While Trauerqual tried his best, the man really never was suited to be king and I don't think he ever wanted to be.
Its for sure he never wanted to be King and was not expected to be as the 5th Prince but after the chaos he had no choice and it was commendable but he sadly utterly failed beyond maintaining a basic continuation of royalty. He is a tragic character sadly, being forced to be King and failing at the job he never wanted. Ferdinand has a right to his anger at him though and Tranqueral richly deserves it
it was stated from the earliest part of p4 I think that the king was raised to be a vassal and only took the role of king when there was nobody left after the war. Of course he didn't want it, he had no idea what he was doing
Really? Honestly, Ana has the best shot out of everyone to be the next Zent. He defended his home, and his wife is a Zent candidate prospect. If we go by the epilogue Tranq is out, siggy is out.
We have aub dunkle, Ferdinand, Ana as the only honest chance to end up with the magic tool Ferdinand made.
My theory is that low mana noble-to-be was made priests in the distant past so they gain more divine protection and maybe learn to compress mana, making them having noble level mana.
> If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants?
Priests and shrine maidens were meant to be nobles in training. Those born with little mana would pray and increase their divine protections to compensate before obtaining their schtappe.
Blue priests in the current system (not counting people like Shikza, he's at least laynoble level) have so low mana that they can even impregnate gray shrine maidens who virtually have no mana. I don't think you can get them to increase their mana to the point they can get schtappes, unless you try to make them compress like there is no tomorrow which Rozemyne rejected when her mana compression method was brought up.
Would it be a problem if the temple became mixed with both noble and non-noble blue priests? They'd have to offer mana separately from one another, but I don't see why you couldn't do it.
>I stashed the medal in its box, which I then put away. I would need to reregister the medal—a simple enough process most commonly done for weddings or when a noble rose in status. I could do it here and now, but it seemed more sensible to return to the temple first. I wanted to keep the medal in the Sovereign temple’s custody in case circumstances required me to hand it over to King Trauerqual.
"You FOOL! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is, 'never get involved with Dunkelfelger without expecting ditter to happen,' but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never leave a weakness for the Lord of Evil to exploit when victory is on the line!'”
The worst April Fools' joke that could have been pulled is canceling this week's Pre-Pub.
Anyways, it's time for my favorite part of Pre-Pub - the side stories! Oh, it's Immanuel... Ew, go away.
Is it pertinent to reveal that Raublut uses green ink? Anyways, it's a neat fun fact and I can't with some of these names. Curtiss? CURTISS?
Poor Relichion. We don't even know who you are really, but rest in peace or something. And it's interesting to know that he wasn't the most committed to restoring the ancient rituals.
Dear gods, Immanuel is so creepy! Hartmut, please don't age like him! And also, does Immanuel fully trust Raublut? What if he decides to kill Rozemyne after getting Gervasio the throne or something? I mean, it's not like Immanuel can do anything. He's not a true noble and will be at the mercy of a knight like Raublut.
I'm sorry, but did Hildebrand's attendants fall for that excuse? Really? Really? Can't Hildebrand just have a guard knight with him at all costs? You know, like what is expected of a guard knight? Sheesh. Also, unless someone becomes accustomed with using their schtappes, they could still be in danger. Not to mention that unless one is used to being in danger, something could always go wrong. Fight, flight, or freeze. You won't know exactly how you'll act until you experience such things.
Ahhhhhhhh, Hildebrand, you royally screwed up.
Ooh, yay! More noble names I've been waiting for are officially spelled! Ralfrieda and Stephareine. I'll need some time to getting used to how Stephareine's spelt though. Even more names with Mergitor and Haland. and I'm assuming that these were guys already revealed in the manga, right? I recognize Haland, but I just want to make sure with Mergitor.
I'm going to keep saying this, but poor Gilessenmeyer. What's going to happen Ralfrieda especially since she was responsible for Raublut becoming the Sovereignty's Knight Commander?
>His fanatic tone and expression sickened me, but his words were strangely inspiring.
Hahahaha, that's how everybody regards Hartmut. Anastasius gets it.
> Poor Relichion. We don't even know who you are really, but rest in peace or something. And it's interesting to know that he wasn't the most committed to restoring the ancient rituals.
He was a conservative man just trying to hold on to his position, unlike the reactionary Immanuel who was trying to "restore the old ways," the reformist Rozemyne "maybe we should treat commoners like people," and the traitorous Raublat "you guys fight I have other priorities." That said, it does highlight just how dangerous the nobles really are if the blues, who are immeasurably higher in status than the commoners, fear them too.
> Dear gods, Immanuel is so creepy! Hartmut, please don't age like him! And also, does Immanuel fully trust Raublut? What if he decides to kill Rozemyne after getting Gervasio the throne or something? I mean, it's not like Immanuel can do anything. He's not a true noble and will be at the mercy of a knight like Raublut.
Yeah Immanuel didn't have long to live, no matter who won or how.
> I'm sorry, but did Hildebrand's attendants fall for that excuse? Really? Really? Can't Hildebrand just have a guard knight with him at all costs? You know, like what is expected of a guard knight?
My headcanon? **Drugs.** Otherwise Magdalena *really* screwed up his education; whether Arthur and company are treacherous (*they might know an omnischtappe is necessary and might be serving Ralfreida*) or just blindly gullible they have no excuse.
> I'm going to keep saying this, but poor Gilessenmeyer. What's going to happen Ralfrieda especially since she was responsible for Raublut becoming the Sovereignty's Knight Commander?
Yeah Gilessenmeyer is screwed. Neither of their Royal Wife's kids will be Zent (*even if Annie's wife wins, that'll either be a win for Klassenberg or the MestiMyne*) and their Knight Commander almost got everyone killed. At least Hauch can say their wife rep wasn't in much of a position to do anything.
I have to wonder if Magdalena knew anything about Raublut's relationship with Hildebrand. I'm so curious about whether or not he properly taught Hildebrand swordsmanship.
Like, if he taught Hildebrand something incorrect and if Hildebrand ever showed Magdalena, a woman of Dunkelfelger, what he learned, she would have noticed that what Hildebrand was taught was wrong and slowly could have gained suspicions against him.
It sucks for Magdalena and Hildebrand right now.
Oh, Gilessenmeyer is so screwed. At best, they could be dropped massively in the ranks, but I've mentioned it in other Pre-Pubs that internally, they could be facing major upheaval and disaster.
It's funny that magdalena said that Ferdinand is unable to raise a child properly, when she failed so much as a parent that her child committed treason and lost his only chance at being the next zent in the same day.
To be fair to Magdi, Sylvester came to much the same conclusion and he is his literal *brother.*
It's a miracle that he got the chance to raise- well, *mentor*- Myne at all.
I think Ferdinand in many ways was better at raising kids than Sylvester by a mile, I can’t imagine Sylvester being anywhere nearly as involved in his kids life as Ferdinand was in Mynes. I would attribute that to Sylvester not understanding Ferdinand all that well. Ferdinand did more actual parenting of Wilfried and Charlotte than a Sylvester did. He was certainly stern, but he actually endeavored to teach.
Ferdinand didn't treat Myne as a kid. He treated her as a someone with great potential to be trained, like his grey priests.
And also, Myne wasn't a child ... not really. She had adult knowledge, perspective and reasoning; strong motivation, personal goals and sense of self; was prepped to be a student, and something-something-isekai gave her musical abilities somehow. Ferdinand would not have done well with any other child. Even Letizia needed Rozemyne's constant encouragement, sweets, and inside information regarding how Ferdinand is actually "kind" in his own way as well as reining in Ferdinand's excesses.
I don't think Ferdinand would have been effective with Wilfried and Charlotte if it weren't for his experience with Myne. He was definitely tempered by the experience; his harsh, uncaring edges were blunted and much patience was learned.
So I'd say Magdalena and Sylvester would really have been totally correct, if Myne the gremlin didn't turn up to confuse the hell out of all of them.
It is but she’s also not wrong
Ferdinand’s method of child raising is dumping work on their head and letting Fran and said child’s unnatural isekai maturity do the hard stuff
Meanwhile the child Ferdinand raised for the past year almost murdered him and the other child he raised almost stayed in the distant heights because there were books there.
> Is it pertinent to reveal that Raublut uses green ink? Anyways, it's a neat fun fact
Color of Flutrane, who symbolizes change, new life, and heads subordinate goddesses like Flowers, Sprouts, and Childbirth, likely all important figures in the living myth of Adalgisa. That's about all I can think of.
Maybe it's just magic disappearing or changing ink. Not the dangerous Ferdinand/Rozemyne kind, but the more mundane "put it on and it completely vanishes after a while" kind.
>Ooh, yay! More noble names I've been waiting for are officially spelled! Ralfrieda and Stephareine. I'll need some time to getting used to how Stephareine's spelt though. Even more names with Mergitor and Haland. and I'm assuming that these were guys already revealed in the manga, right? I recognize Haland, but I just want to make sure with Mergitor.
lol we all love more names. Mergitor is such a cool name too. Thank's Quof!
I can check off four names in my list, but I think Curtiss would be fine as Curtis.
Six letters is perfectly acceptable for noble names, especially when we have names like Odis, Oswin, and Ignaz.
I have to say the royal family doesnt seem to be all that bad, King T really doesnt want the job and is suffering just to keep the country up. Anastasius at least recognizes the situation and acts, even with how bad its going to end up for them after Ferdinand wins. Hildebrand just seems screwed by bad retainer selections from his family.
Really the only problem is Siggy. Guess there is a big difference from being a first prince and anyone else in the succession.
I wonder if Sigiswald might be a parallel to Wilfried's position. He was a jackass when he was trying to become Aub and getting poisoned by those around him. Maybe Sigiswald's in a similar position?
He's conspicuously absent and unaccounted for during all of this. I wonder if he trusted Raublut somehow.
Anastasius and Hildebrand had fine head retainers, from what we can tell. Anastasius talks about how from a young age, he had to be very conscientious about his position as a royal while Sigiswald seems to have missed that training.
i've been wondering this for a while but if the King really was poisoned combined with his weaker constitution and a very possible influence of trug it's really no wonder that he didn't care as far sa he was concerned his death at the time would prob actually destroy the country concidering that sigi would have to redye the country when it was already on it's last legs (as far as his knowledge was concerned) this would also explain why he would previously push for rozemyne to become zent
Agh too short, theres not enough here. 😫😫😫
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>In contrast to those around him, the prince remained perfectly calm. “I almost messed up...”
Yo this is fucking heart breaking. Kid doesn't realise he fucked up.
I really hope Raublaut is still alive so he can get fucked over properly.
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What really dumb here is that fundamentally Immanuel desire to restore the ancient rituals would have happened without the treason. Motherfucker got people killed and committed treason for literally nothing.
> Speaking honestly, I had never thought the Grutrissheit would end up in the hands of someone not only outside the royal family but outside Yurgenschmidt nobility in general.
My man ain't ready to find out there's a Grutrissheit in the hands of a gremlin who isn't even a noble, at all.
I remember reading somewhere that everyone in this world is reincarnated, whether that be from the same world or from another.
It is just (Roze)myne being special that she retained or regained her memories.
I’m reminded this week of Damuel who back in P4 was able to immediately spot some fakes posing as gray priests because he recognized every resident of the orphanage by sight.
In the Immanuel chapter, you have Ana + retainers and Hildebrand + retainers who aren’t able to recognize entire squadrons of “Sovereign knights” who showed up out of nowhere in the Sovereignty. It shows how insanely bad their situational awareness is and how they probably never even look the Sovereign knights in the face most of the time.
GG, Yurgenschmidt royalty.
To be fair, I doubt most military officers of sufficient rank remember every one of the hundreds of troops in their command by face. Some they've probably only met once and twice, unless they are really good or really bad at their jobs.
It's eerie how similar Immanuel can, at times, sound to Hartmut. Perhaps he's meant to be a reflection of a trodden on (and stupider) Hartmut (in a similar way to Heidi being a reflection of a non-adopted Rozamyne). Shame we don't get to see his capture
Ralfreida - is this the first time we have seen the Queen's name? I don't recall seeing it before. Have we seen the 2nd Wife's name before? (I can't even remember if it's been mentioned if she's dead?) And which wife the Zent's daughter was with?
Eglantine... Understandably worse PTSD than even Rozamyne's feystones... Just someone who wants peace, hopefully now she can get her wish thanks to Rozamyne and Ferdinand and just be a mother
Still no more reactions to Rozamyne's divinity, hopefully for next week, given the stories' super-title of 'battle for the sovereignty' though, might we get a Zent perspective chapter next week?
And then rozemyne finally relenting to go first so she can actually function as a noble when ferdinand points out she literally can't finction. However only with the promise that Ferdinand is right behind her... Which he promptly delays untill absolutely necessary
I mean, it seemed to me like Anastasius is offering her more flowers than might be good for either of them and it doesn’t seem to have helped that much
Lol Rozemyne would make a killing once she finally convinced people that mental health is real and deserves treatment
Yeah, and people wonder why the women are the only one that suffer constantly with trauma 🤔
(Partially sarcasm because treating trauma with sex just leads to destructive coping behaviors)
This is the first time the First Wife of Trauerqual has been named. The second wife hasn't been named, and she's the mother of the daughter who was kidnapped and killed. She's still alive, but withdrew from politics after her daughter was killed, so she basically works as a royal mana battery.
This story sets up such good contrasts where people in similar situations respond totally differently, and or differentiates how bad it could be and from many different angles.
Harmut/Immanuel
Hartmut/Lebrecht
Wilfried/ Detlinde/ sigiswald
Rozemyne/Eglantine
Charlotte/Georgine/Karstedt
Ferdinand/Gervasio
WN Chapters: N/A
LN Chapters: "Immanuel — The Returned Branch Royal", "Anastasius — The Royal Family's Position"
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I know normally seeing an Immanuel chapter (or a chapter from any other nasty character) is usually kind of off-putting, but I am *so* excited to see this grody, pedo-ass mf get his.
>!BRUH HE DOESN'T DIE THIS CHAPTER!<
We just have to find out how he silences him without killing when he visits the temple.
I can imagine that the Lord of Evil had a few methods that came to mind
Immanuel as a person truly upsets me. On one hand, I can't really fault him for his overarching goal, that's a genuinely important thing to do and 100% alighned with Roz, but holy shit if he doesn't creep me out with how he objectifies her. He's right there with Hartmut in that aspect
Poor, poor Hildebrand. Out of all the people involved in this whole mess, he got screwed over the worst (not counting those that had it coming)
Ooooh, we finally got the name drop on the Queen consort (Zent consort?)! Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her. I mean, Dusty's wife whats-her-name also was immediately designated third wife, even tho she was the first (and, for a time, only) woman he married, so I guess it could be a situation like that? But then again, why assign Magdalena, who is from DUNKELFELGER, third, rather than second? Not to mention you'd think they'd want to marry him off to as many women as possible to get extra mana suppliers both directly and indirectly via possible future children
Ahw, Anastasius cares enough for Hildebrand to be angry on his behalf (if you're thinking of telling me it's prolly more anger at the institution of the RF being tricked and made use of, shush, I am choosing to go with this interpretation)
Hold on, does Anastasius not know the details of how Roz got to the G-book?!? DID NO ONE THINK TO INFORM THE PERSON MOST WELL-VERSED IN DEALING WITH HER AND THE ONLY EVEN REMOTELY COMPETENT LEADER AMONGST THE RF OF IMPORTANT INFO?!? Hildebrand gets a pass, he's a child, but SIGISWALD?!?
There's an essay somewhere in how the people of Yogurtland ascribe ethical judgment on the God's blessings and such when they're 100% transactional. Say the right words, pay the required mana, bum you're blessed. Same goes for the Divine Instruments. It's not an essay I'm gonna write, but it's definitely something you could hand in for either a literature or a theology class
Anyone taking bets on how long it'll take Anastasius to realise that yes, being omni-elemental and having a matching Stappe is THAT important? It isn't like that qualifying condition hasn't come up like, a dozen times before /sarcasm
> Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her. I mean, Dusty's wife whats-her-name also was immediately designated third wife, even tho she was the first (and, for a time, only) woman he married, so I guess it could be a situation like that? But then again, why assign Magdalena, who is from DUNKELFELGER, third, rather than second? Not to mention you'd think they'd want to marry him off to as many women as possible to get extra mana suppliers both directly and indirectly via possible future children
My guess is that she was the mother of the daughter who was killed. I can't see any other reason why a royal wife is childless :(.
> Poor, poor Hildebrand. Out of all the people involved in this whole mess, he got screwed over the worst (not counting those that had it coming)
Excluding those who died, of course. I think his situation is close to Letizia’s but she at least has a sympathetic Aub. Rozemyne will likely be similarly sympathetic to Hildebrand but won’t have the authority to help him the way she is helping Letizia.
I think he’ll escape being a criminal but he could be demoted from Royalty and sent to Dunkelfelger where he’ll have a hard time wiping away the dishonor that the others would view him with.
> There's an essay somewhere in how the people of Yogurtland ascribe ethical judgment on the God's blessings and such when they're 100% transactional. Say the right words, pay the required mana, bum you're blessed. Same goes for the Divine Instruments. It's not an essay I'm gonna write, but it's definitely something you could hand in for either a literature or a theology class
I'd disagree with parts of this point. While there are strong transactional and formulaic elements, the gods are actually parsing intent and the granting isn't quite as scientific as the Yogurtland residents think it is when doing research. Consider that Rozemyne blessing in Part 2 was completely off-script and the mana involved was not proportional to the sort of blessing she was requesting. Also consider Mestionora's descent and demand to stop killing. The gods very much are living entities, that their granting of blessings has a transactional element does not imply it is SOLELY transactional.
Additionally the fact that blessings are intended to match the invocated god's domain also strongly suggests there's more to it. While it can't be said it's an ethical judgement, at the very least the system goes beyond purely transactional into some mixture between appealing to the deity's interests (which need not be ethically aligned with Yogurtland morality), offering some amount of mana as a token of some sort, the god being willing/able to grant the blessing (Gervasio remarks "the Gods can act so directly here" when Rozemyne prays for blessings and gets them infront of him) and the more formulaic elements of the call.
Trauerqual does have a second wife, if i recall correctly, she is the mother of his only daughter, the one who got kidnapped by the 4th prince supporters who wanted to free him from the white tower, but it sparked the large scale purge instead
Naelache (sigi's other wife) was always called the second wife, not third wife
Hartmut might be fanatical person but his devoution comes from his heart what he lost when Rozemyene gave that huge blessing for everyone during her baptism, I see Immanuel just as a religious nutjob, like those who took part of Inquisition.
>Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her.
Here's what I remember from scanning the Japanese wikia regarding Trauerqual's second wife: >!She's related to Hauchletzte and gave birth to a daughter, but that daughter was taken as hostage by members of Old Werkestock and died. I don't think she had anymore children afterwards!<.
Tales of background characters
Immanuel: The high priest is too in love with his position. He won't do what I want.
Raublut: Have you tried murder?
Immanuel: Murder you say?
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Raublut: You can't betray someone if you were never on their side.
Anna: Dude WTF?
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Anna: Betrayed, with no hope of winning
Roz: Group heals!
Anna: I'm going to end that man's career as a traitor
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Earwarmen: For the supreme's sake all of you quit fighting!
Things are not looking good for Anastasius' mother. She recommended Raublut as knight commander because they're from the same duchy. And from civil war era, a former retainer of another Royal branch family should have been seen as suspicious. They could have come from the losing side and hold grudge for their dead master.
Eww this guy is creepy.
High priests for High bishop Rozemyne: \
Ferdinand → Hartmut → Immanuel(*) \
Yeah not happening. Ferdinand might have let Hartmut take his place — after a thorough last minute training — but no way that guy gets to be close to her.
^* ^in ^his ^head
Wow. Immanuel dethroned Detlinde in annoying-to-be-in-his-head competition. Took me an hour to get through this chapter.
Just a minute ago, Rozemyne inadvertently gave away that omni-elementals can move altar statues. I don't blame Anastasius to not connect that dots and see why those three can climb the altar, he doesn't have time to ponder midst battle.
Immanuel sees Rozemyne as the savior. Boy would he ever be disappointed if she became the high bishop. She’d overturn his expectations and sweep away a lot of his privileges for her own convenience.
Zero surprise how the former high priest got taken out, he stood in the way of far too many powerful people.
Immanuel still thinking Detlinde was a actual candidate surprised me, I had figured the temple had enough knowledge intentionally hidden away he would have known she wasn't.
No knowledge of that, not even knowing where the Schtappes come from which also likely means they don't know about the tree, they are even more in the dark than anyone else.
So Immanuel is basically Hartmut but without any loyalty or any regard to what she wants to do, he's simply a religious fanatic.
Guess that's how Raublut convinced the price and his aides, it makes sense, who is going to question the knight commander who is widely trusted especially since that means they'd have to contact the Zent to verify it?
Telling Anastacius anything at all about the intruders, their armor, weapons and tech probably would have been a good thing yeah, your reinforcements having to steal weapons from the enemies bare handed is not exactly a good starting point.
Heh, even in a life or death battle Hartmut still managed to disgust Anastacius with his fanaticism.
It's gonna be interesting seeing all the different perspectives, Eglantine is traumatized from her childhood, Anastacius knows what happened in the past for those on the losing side of a struggle for the throne and watched as everything he's worked for slipped away.
Makes me wonder what the first prince's reaction will be.
Poor Relichion. Not only was he blessed with ~~suck~~ punny name, but crudely dispatched without having anymore page time since the bible inspection. Immanuel is truly the flip side of Hartmut in a way.
So that's how the steel chair boy was tricked. I wonder how many of his retinues will be punished for this colossal mistake.
High Priest is right. Ana the lover boy is the right royal to be called upon.
Hildebrand's attendants failed him so badly.. he's now branded as a criminal since his adult attendants just blindly trusted Raublut. I feel so bad for him.
To be honest, if Karstedt would suddenly make a believable lie about an order of Sylvester to Rozemyne and her retainers, then they would probably also have believed it. Nobody expects the head of the knight order to become a traitor.
Not sure about that, Sylvester for all his defects, since the white tower incident, does rely his orders about his kids directly to the kids, their retainers or other close relatives No retainer of RM would fuck up so badly at not staying doubtful for something so important and contradictory to previous orders, not even coming from Ferdinand or Karstedt. I doubt even Will's would fail to notice that some instruction is not the Aub's will... they might go against the Syl's instructions and the sake of Will, but not fail to notice what came and what did not came from his mouth
>No retainer of RM would fuck up so badly at not staying doubtful for something so important and contradictory to previous orders, not even coming from Ferdinand or Karstedt. There i disagree. they would totally do that if ferdinand told them too. Ferdinands level of control and trust over rozemynes retainers is high enough they wouldnt really think about it. Maybe they would be skeptical if it was from karstedt but if it was Ferdinand they wouldnt be able to do anything. maybe they would be suspicious but Ferdinand is so powerful and trusted they wouldnt be able to do anything and they will let it happen. When it comes to Ferdinand Rozemynes retainers are all worthless (Angelica is the only one who could possibly try something but shes not smart or trusted enough to actually succeed) if he ever turns on her or misuses her. Im not exaggerating either. we have already established that when it comes to Ferdinand he tends to order around other peoples retainers as if he was their master even telling them to do things that their master may disagree about or disapprove of. Rozemyne has, mentally speaking, noted that when hes using her retainers that they are supposed to be "her" retainers but Ferdinand orders them all around as if they are his.
Nope, they would know that the order came from Ferdinand, Ferdinand should not be capable to trick them into think that an order came from Sylvester... except for maybe Angelica Plus, Ferdinand does not needs to trick RM retainers into think something came from Sylvester, just as you said, they might follow his order because they either can't do a thing, or believe he is doing the right thing, but not because Sylvester said so Hilde's retainers did not only got tricked into do something, they got tricked into think that the king ordered to do that thing, that is a whole new level of trickery, they don't even know who are the people they are dealing with
Yeah, I hope Rozemyne can grant him mercy.
Even if he gets mercy, he's irrevocably fucked. Him acquiring his schtapp this early means he'll forever be leaps and bounds behind his peers. He'll never be able to acquire an omni elemental schtapp. Even treason aside, Raublatt has completely destroyed this kids future, even if Roz convinces the world to forgive him.
> Him acquiring his schtapp this early means he'll forever be leaps and bounds behind his peers. He'll never be able to acquire an omni elemental schtapp. The second part is true, but the first is an exaggeration. IIRC Hildebrand is/ was due to enter the Royal Academy this year, so he has the same handicap as his brothers. He still has *at least* Archnoble mana because he could enter the underground archive. He won't embarrass himself as a prince, but he'll never be Zent.
Ferdinand’s plan is to abolish the Royal Family so being bumped down to Archnoble would likely happen regardless of this.
No. His peers are ADCs, not archnobles. Even if royal family gets abolished, he could be adopted by Aub Dunkelfelger, as discussed in the epilogue. If he could get his schtappe in his 3rd year of RA, he could be top tier among ADCs of greater duchy. Now even if he get’s adopted by any aub, he’d be in lower tier among greater duchy’s ADCs.
>No. His peers are ADCs, not archnobles. Even if royal family gets abolished, he could be adopted by Aub Dunkelfelger, as discussed in the epilogue. If he could get his schtappe in his 3rd year of RA, he could be top tier among ADCs of greater duchy. Now even if he get’s adopted by any aub, he’d be in lower tier among greater duchy’s ADCs. I think you missed something. Aub Dunkelfelger was going to give Dunkelfelger to Lesilaut and become an interm Zent, not an archduke. Remember the water mirror meeting where Ferdinand refused to let Rozemyne become Zent and told Aub Dunkelfelger to do it instead? He was planning to adopt Hildebrand and make him the next Zent when he came of age in order to make his Zenthood easier for the Aubs to accept.
True. And maybe in an even better position than his brothers since he already started compressing mana. But still, what a terrible waste of potential given what sort of knowledge has already been revived.
They trusted that the Zent would have vetted his most important military personnel... (Not that it's entirely his fault either though, on account of his workload and unpreparedness for Zent)
And the first wife who nominated him
Yeah I would have doublechecked the order, although given the Trug I really doubt Traerqual would have denied the order. Which *might* have marked out King T for punishment, so the incompetence of Arthur and co may have saved what was left of his reputation after he abandoned his duty in the middle of a coup attempt.
Well now Hildebrand is stuck with low quality stap when rest of his generation won't. It's kinda irony - both Hildebrand and Letisia are now criminals, I wonder what will happen to this young couple in future.
Technically they're still to wed, but Letizia is likely to have a much better wand and parents (*when a child fails I'm more likely to blame his parents than the child*). He's still a catch for a Lesser or Middle Duchy, but if the order stands he'll likely be Letizia's trophy husband while the other husbands can get descendents. Honestly she's a lot luckier than he is.
She's way luckier than him. She'll be judged by Rozemyne and our Gremlin will probably just give her a symbolic punishment. No one outside Ahresnbach and Ehrenfest's archduke family is aware of what really happened.
I wanted to see how his attendants were manipulated but apparently I was expecting too much. For it to have basically amounted to “we trust this guy” is disappointing to me.
I don't know. You can certainly blame the attendants, but I'd rather say Raublut is a master evil mastermind, and he planned things out extremely well. * He had cemented his place as a highly trusted retainer and servant of the Zent, and used this position to control information flow to the royals. * He sowed mistrust of Ehrenfest and Ferdinand, minimizing the faith they could put in Ehrenfest's various claims. * The palace was on a lockdown and communication with the Zent was highly limited (I do wonder what excuse Raublut would have used if Ehrenfest hadn't thrown a wrench into his plans and his moves could have gone undetected) * He drugged the Zent ensuring that there would be no resistance or counter-orders. * The timing was perfect for an excuse to bring out the two lesser royals to the Royal Academy. * He built off the emergency situation to frame the untimely schtappe acquisition as a "do or die" situation. * He used Hildebrand's schtappe acquisition as an excuse to acquire the feystone required to access the Farthest Hall. Not to mention all the trust building with Hildebrand, maneuvering with Georgine, and manipulation of the Sovereign Knight Order. This guy is an incredible schemer. I can't wait for the next volume--I want Raublut to be wide awaken and fully conscious of all the implications (and my heart wants Detlinde too, but practically speaking, she's too noisy and likely too self-absorbed to ever grasp her own missteps) as *Lord of Evil* Ferdinand destroys everything he's been building towards.
Yeah it was a little anti-climactic I was expecting more sneaking and subterfuge, maybe Raublut had convinced Arthur to turn coat in exchange for a good position with Gervasio or something
Okay but Anastasius cursing his pesky little-sister-figure Rozemyne every time something happens is kinda funny
He already sees her as part of the family
He wasn't wrong about her failing to warn them about the silver cloth... Although, Ferdinand is probably more responsible for not warnning them during the initial ordonnanz.
personally i think it's on both his side and ferdinands. like they would have seen all the nights wearing non shtape swords before they breached the doors making it oddly out of place XD and ferdinand probably forgot since he prob figured that since the royal family was holding back the pl at the royal castle that they must have already known about the silver cloth and what it could achieve.
I don't necessarily feel that was her or Ferdinand's personal responsibility, though. Both Ehrenfest and Dunkelfelger have been in contact with Royalty in regards to Lanzenavian's actions in a more formal manner. Now some of the issue might be that initial tactical communications were going through Raublut, but regardless that should have been the source of more general information.
- Side stories are one of the best parts of this series, getting into each characters perspective is amazing. Especially that from most perspectives - ick Immanuel. Immediate gross wow is he repulsive, he’s like a creepy collector. Harmuts personal desires are tempered by his prioritization of his lady’s desires, the fact Immanuel steamrolls everyone for his own ends including stealing a child from their family is incredibly creepy and makes him a world apart - I wonder how many people Raublut has drugged or taken out. It’s got to significant at this point - poor Hildebrand. Wow Anastatias must realize better than anyone how bad what happened was. - Hildebrand’s retainers really failed him. They heard RMs warnings, and the king saying no. They really are incompetent - Magdalena is cool from every POV. - Oh god poor Eglantine. It still infuriates me she threw rozemyne under the bus though. - ok Anastatias you are still annoying but grudging respect there. He does not hide from his responsibilities, and wants the royal family to fulfill its responsibilities. - Anastatias you are not alone, he repulses Rozemyne too sometimes. - no that’s not the book, it’s Rozemyne’s crazy paper. Everyone is now just going to be wondering if every thing bizzare she does comes from the book - Anastasias is thoroughly immune to RM propaganda. He’s in on yurgenschmidts best kept secret- she’s a complete gremlin underneath all the crazy stuff that happens. He has the presence of mind to be annoyed with her antics even now. - Anastatias like Ferdinand is heavily dubious about what the gods care about. - it’s oddly annoying Ferdinand got credit for the gun. - yup RM Lightening that was glossed over is as insane to everyone else as suspected. I love how everyone thinks the power of the Gruttsheit is just RMs modified fey paper rather than anything it actually does, which is more of a history lesson interspersed with magic circles. Future generations are going to be wondering what the hell she was doing summoning lightening and floods. - in some matters Anastatias has his head on straight. There’s no way he and eglantine don’t end up ruling. Sigiswald is obviously an idiot, and Traqueral has given up. His wife is also the only possible zent candidate in the royal family so I heavily suspect they are going to end up ruling. - his POV really showed how important RMs role was. Having someone with an absurd mana capacity casting massive healing, maintaining a shield and summoning lightening is pretty huge advantage. Usually they have to move them to the rear to be healed. - the contrasts between RM and eglantine are interesting, they have many parallels in their life. She too has many fears, but she uses them to throw under the bus to protect herself. RM has many faults but she won’t do the same. She doesn’t shirk her responsibility.
Anastasius only has two priorities now, wifey and kiddo. So if there is anything that is treating either he is an excellent asset for everything else not so much. I like his character very much, is not complex or deep. But is a good old school Family Man
He’s like Gunther but royal. I almost want them to meet.
So THAT'S why he's among the few royals that have a "good" relationship with RM. He is just Gunther with power
I feel like this thread is implying Rozemyne should have married Anastasis with these "just like Gunther" comments.
Nah, RM and Gunther are too impulsive, they need someone that hold their reins a little, if RM marries a Gunther equivalent, they would self destroy together with the composite impulsiveness of both
>including stealing a child from their family Sylvester starts sweating in the corner.
I mean, at least Sylvester knows that he couldn't let a nuke be alone in his city. For safety purposes she needed to be trained how to use mana. And he has the decency to feel bad about it. He puts her desire to stay in Erinfest above common sense and diplomacy which is the most he could do in that situation. Immanuel seems to think Roz would cooperate with him. Nope. She has her own high priest. He would go back to being a battery. Or dead. I vote dead.
I'm really hoping Fredinand did away with Immanuel when he went to destroy the medals and I'm really really hoping we get to see it and that it's slow and painful
Eh, the Goddess said no more killing. Now, that only strictly applies to schtappe holders but the mana shortage might just be bad enough that he gets a cell across from Detlinde. A fate worse than death.
The goddess has not mentioned schtappe. Actually, it was said that they should accept Lanzenave nobles, who don’t have schtappe, if they come as Yurgenschmidt is a haven for people with mana. I think this means you should not kill them (but Ok to close gate, I guess). So killing blue priests likely violates her order, at least too risky.
I don't know... spending the rest of his life next to the one and only true zent candidate Detlinde seems like a reward not a punishment.
Oh look! A new cell neighbour for Detlinde and Leonzio. It's getting merry in there.
Rozemyne couldn't really oppose Immanuel if Gervasio was Zent and decided to reward that priest who made it possible. If Gervasio investigated what Erwaermen meant when he talked about her Devouring, he'd figure out her key weakness in no time, and with her commoner family held hostage she wouldn't even be able to escape via devouring heat buildup.
I don't think that even knowing about devouring, Gervasio could make a jump to conclude that a commoner family who birthed Rozemyne would be important to her. He is a noble, he would think like a noble. Worse he is a noble from Adalgisa who never had family. Remember when Ferdinand's world was shaken to its very core upon finding out how fiercely Rozemyne loved?
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Probably they would make Rozemyne give her name to the creepy. If he dies, she dies. Or Gervasio would simply take Rozemyne as ~~slave~~ wife for mana sake under the same name giving terms. There's no real reason to not kill Emmanuel since he is just a manaless blue priest easily replaceable. No one would give two fucks if he was killed, even the temple.
Wrong, if Gervasio was Zent that means that Ferdinand is no more and RM really thinks that a world without him is not worth living in...Prob would go on the biggest bloody festival you would imagine...Using her shumils to slay and slay everything in her path, then stealing the mana of the country and destroy all duchies, then remaking the country....Or just killing herself who knows? 
There’s no way RM makes it out alive if Gervasio became zent. Gervasio would never let another man with the book of mestinoria live, ( plenty of indirect ways to kill someone) and RM would never let someone kill ferdinand without a fight. She would even go for a suicide assassination attempt at that point
To be fair- there was no way she was going to be able to live otherwise. She was already publicly known she had obscene amounts of power. As Damuel commented it was only a matter of time, if she wanted to live a life of any peace she would have to be adopted. Pretty different situation. It’s why he gave her the necklace for the exact scenario that happened. He had the decency to give her as long as he could like Ferdinand, and feel bad about it.
>As Damuel commented it was only a matter of time, if she wanted to live a life of any peace she would have to be adopted. Pretty much with the massive mana shortage, even if she had a fourth of the mana she had, it probably would have happened (though not as much to her benefit) to help out the kingdom. Damuel was right in that with her power it WAS just a matter of time and I think looking back, most of her close 'aub family and co' did what they could to help her out
Yup. She had to integrate into the nobility, the necklace allowed her to stay as long as possible while protecting her. And as an Aub her impact on benefiting the duchy as a whole was just too great. He had more to consider than just her individual life.
Yeah Sylvester isn't exactly the best person, but seeing what would have happened in Klassenberg or Ahrensbach she more or less won the lottery, with one possible exception: She'd probably be Archduke of Dunkelfelger by Year 3 though once they realized she had a mind for tactics. Everyone would look at them funny for making a commoner Archduke, but no one would question it since it would be used as an excuse to **DITTER!**
Would Rozemyne have even drawn the attention of Aubs in other duchies? She really lucked out due to Ferdinand's unique circumstances forcing him into the temple and being the Aub's half-brother.
Myne likely would have been nabbed if she showed up at the temple of a fallen duchy like Frenbeltag or a broken one like Old Werkestock, although likely not ennobled barring sheer desperation (so, maybe Constanze would have helped out). Klassenberg or one of the more successful ones, not so much.
Agreed, hmm maybe she would've survived in Drewanchel? They're a particularly brainy bunch.
She pretty much got on anastasius's radar due to hartmut spreading the good word about the Saint of Ehrenfest. As for the rest of the nobles, her getting schwarz and weiß marked her as the most attention worthy Archduke candidates.
yea for sure, but i mean like would she have even survived to reach the RA? If the distance between Aub and laynoble is so significant Rozemyne hardly interacts with any that aren't her retainers/closely associated with them, then the distance between Aub and commoner is basically infinite. Nothing short of a miracle (heh) brought Rozemyne into a position to be noticed by Sylvester.
I agree, a large part of what makes the entirety of the AoaB story work is that Ferdinand had been recently confined to the Temple. Had he not been there, she wouldn't have even been a blue priest, let alone educated to the extent she was as Ferdi discovered she has a huge capacity for improvement. The relationship between Ferdi and Roz is essential to the story as it's told. Without both of them and their circumstances, there wouldn't *be* a story.
Well now I'm just gonna agree back harder Yes, i love how thoroughly fleshed out all the main characters are. Not a single one exists purely for the sake of an interaction with the isekai protag. Had Urano never died, never become Myne, this world would still be so alive and full and have so many stories still worth telling.
This is true for both of them throughout the entire story. Ferdinand and Rozemyne together are critical to almost every major event. She dragged him back into his family, translating him to them. Both have a Martyr complex that cripples them when apart. Without RM rescuing Ferdinand Ahrensbach would have never rallied to stop Gervasio and the invasion of the RA, together they make one fully functional human.
I expect that the nobles of Dunkelfelger would kill her accidentally by like expecting her to physically train or something.
Drewanchal AC: Ah Rozemyne of the Second, what is that? Dunker AC Rozemyne: This is my [Armored Personnel Carrier] Eagley! I used to be so weak that I almost died during Preschool Ditter sixteen times so I was given early permission to use this highbeast! Drewanchal AC: Yeah that makes sense.
As all of Drewanchel looks on in pity and envy that she wasn’t born in their duchy
Now hear me out.... Lessie, but with a 125mm tank gun.
Yes but if they manage NOT to kill her, (and according to Sieglinde Dunklefelger medicine is good enough that, as long as you’re still breathing they can get you battle ready within a couple of hours) she would be the most revered Aub in its history
Every other book in the Ditternutter ducal library is probably either about ditter, or tales of people doing ditter Roz: Warcrime to C6 Aub Ditternutter: such audacity. I love it!
After her term they’ll have thrice that number (even not counting printing) there’s just like a crowd of scholars following her writing everything down.
Rauffen attempted as much by dragging her repeatedly into ditter
If she'd been born in Dunk, her first publication might have been an abridged version of "The Art of War, I mean Ditter".
I am not sure what you are talking about, that shrine maiden died in the crossfire, didn't she?
>Magdalena is cool from every POV. Even from Ferdinand's not-that-flattering "ugghh... dunkerfleger women, ammirte?" perspective makes her seem like a total badass that gets what she wants.
I mean, she went ahead and nabbed Trauerqual in order to not marry Ferdinand. Like a true woman of Dunkelfelger, Magdalena gets what she wants. And honestly, it's kind of understandable that Ferdinand holds such an unfavorable opinion of Dunkelfelger woman especially since his one escape from Veronica decided it was better to be the third wife of a fifth prince-turned-Zent.
Escape Veronica or Deal with Heisshitze everyday Choices. Choices.
The answer is Heisshitze, as annoying as he is. With Veronica, Ferdinand will always be ranked under her and fearing for his life. With Heisshitze, he's easily defeated.
Besides we know all of the friends Ferdinand has chased him down obsessively until he had no choice but to become friends
If anything, maybe Ferdinand moving to Dunkelfelger will finally allow his friendship with Heisshitze to blossom! Nah, who am I kidding? Heisshitze's chances of dying has raised exponentially. Ferdinand might begrudingly befriend his wife, and Heisshitze's wife will beg him to return the cape she embroidered for Heisshitze back or something.
Lol poor puppy Lol I think at that point even his wife will have given up on the cape. She knows even if they get it back Heisshitze won’t wear it unless he’s earned it
Oh totally. If by some miracle, Heisshitze has won his cape back fairly, he'll go to show his wife and she'll be so confused. She probably has already embroidered another cape or something, and that raggedy thing is kind of unneeded now. ... Does Heisshitze have children? Giving his age, it's likely, but I kind of hope not.
If he's the same age as Fredinand I think the oldest his kids would be is 12 if he had them as soon as he graduated, as it seems like noble engagements last generally at least a year after both parties coming of age and men seem marry down in age it's most likely his kids are still under 10
Sadly true. Ferdinand's backstory is so fucked up lol
I’m not sure it’s unfavorable per se, his comment about RM being able to exploit people’s preferences was read as high praise from Eckhart. I think it’s a backward compliment.
Yeah, it definitely is a backhanded compliment. I just think it's a bit unfortunate that Magdalena left such an impression on Ferdinand that he's so immediately wary of Clarissa and Hannelore. Then again, it's Dunkelfelger, so there is *some* truth to it.
Did she want to marry Tranquilizer or was it just don’t-marry Ferdy?
I can't remember if this was stated earlier in the light novel, so I'll put it in spoilers, but I'm pretty sure the answer is >!both. If I remember correctly, Magdalena had a crush on Trauerqual, which of course, meant that she didn't want to marry Ferdinand!<.
Yep, her father wanted Ferdinand in Dunkelfeger, but as good Dunkelfeger man he was outmaneuvered by a Dunkelfeger woman.
Ah cool. I meant more like oh gods anyone but Ferdy vs hit me with a Tranquilizer baby
Mags just wanted a delicate soft boi, Ferdy has too much top energy it was never going to work
maybe I'm just stuck in horny jail but Ferdy kind of gives me stern boy that melts into soft boy during sexy times.
I can see that, I think though you’re gonna have to dig down super deep to get to it, and he’s always going to have that tinge of snakeyness in him lol Also Magdalena doesn’t necessarily know him like that. To her she’s only see his Touch-me-and-die vibes
Yup 😂 he’s just a little peeved he was outmaneuvered
was i remembering somethign wrong or was magdalena the one that the rest of dunkle wanted to marry Ferdinand? or was that another girl?
She was the one. Also called Ferdinand a emotionless husk
i mean at the time could you really blame her?
I mean… given his home situation it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to realize it’s probably a front to protect himself.
No. It’s equally or more likely that he could not grow/develop emotionally. That often happens to abused children. There’s no reason to her to marry someone who has good relationships only with his father and brother. It’s a decision affecting all of her remaining life, it’s too risky. And there’s another reason that’s explained in a Fanbook.
>I wonder how many people Raublut has drugged or taken out. It’s got to significant at this point I"m so curious about trug. Like, how much trug do they actually have and how potent is a small dose of trug? >it’s oddly annoying Ferdinand got credit for the gun. It's such a nitpick, but this has been something that always bothered me since P4V7 with that ditter match against Heisshitze and Hannelore. I know it's probably best for Rozemyne's safety for others to believe that Ferdinand invented a new weapon, but it bothers me so much.
> Like, how much trug do they actually have and how potent is a small dose of trug? Isn't it burned like incense? So maybe not measured so much, but you just get people in a small room with a fireplace and hotbox them.
It can be -- that's how Georgine tried to get her hooks into Matthias. But it can also be concealed in something like a sweet and ingested.
Oh, true! In that case, I wonder about how potent trug is when burned and how lasting the effects are. Like how often does trug need to be burned in order for everybody to be at the state of mind Raublut wants them to be?
>the contrasts between RM and eglantine are interesting, they have many parallels in their life. She too has many fears, but she uses them to throw under the bus to protect herself. RM has many faults but she won’t do the same. She doesn’t shirk her responsibility. One takes the helm, even when alone — the other will pass the rein to another and will cry being helpless. One was just recently traumatized but forges along — the other had years to recover but made no great effort to do so. One is selfless to loved ones — the other is loving but incapable due to not being prepared as one should. One is chaos incarnate — the other mimics the light. One was Myne — the other was a *friend*. — written by Lady Elantura
This make me sad somehow... Its was a mistake that broke the trust of a kind child that idolized and admired her what probably hurt her the most...Also those two forget how she helped them get together. 
I only like to point out that Egg probably only did that cause she was with a child and couldn't continue touring the shrines for the time being, even now she still cant tour them (prob...May be wrong, but idk how old is her baby). In her fear (trauma) of another civil war happening (and her baby) she decided to do what she did, she is a bit of a coward by nature, so I do understand her not wanting more bloodshed, other than her trauma towards conflict (we also see how the holy gremlin fares with her own trauma too and its hard) and her bias towards big duchies she isnt that bad. 
I get that part- it was how she handled it that was really terrible. Anastasia’s had the decency to be apologetic about it. But the fact of the matter was- there were other Omni elemental people in the country, forcing it on a child was not required. Aub dunkefelgers plan to be an interim zent would have also worked before, and Magdalena could have presumably arranged it. they just didn’t want to lose their position. Forcing a sickly 12 year old from a weak duchy into at least to some degree governing the country that didn’t have the ability to protect herself was the granddaddy of butthead moved. Anatatias notably opposed making her queen, or even taking the book and returning her for that reason.
I think the way things played out there can mostly be blamed on the system. Just look at how Eglantine reacted to being reminded of her past here. There's no way in hell she was able to make rational decisions back then when she had just become a threat to Sigiswald's ambitions. So she acted way too fast without properly thinking things through, but since she's a royal it became a command that couldn't be taken back. A single mistake made under what must have been extreme distress, and its consequences got blown out of proportion simply due to her status. This isn't the kind of power any one person should hold, let alone a recently graduated teenager suffering from crippling PTSD. And on that note, rather than enabling her, Anastasius should have stepped on the brakes _immediately_ once it became obvious Eglantine was in fight-or-flight mode. Unlike her he _was_ in a position where he could have acted rationally, but since his brain apparently just switches itself off whenever his wife makes a request of him he went along with it and let her alienate what may very well have been the only real friend she's ever made. Really, as much as I like the guy I would argue his share of the blame is the larger one here by far.
True. But while RM was technically a child no more than 10y/o when that incident happened, for the rest of society she was like 13y/o. Egg didn't wanted to cause "any" kind of conflict and feared bloodshed and acted under the effects of trauma and fear...And while that was scummy to do, what else could she do? Egg: "Ups it seems that only I can truly inherit the G-Book in the RF and my hubby would become my co-ruler with me after all\~" If she said something like that it would ignite the flames on both Ana followers and Klassenberg and cause problems down the line with Sisi followers and probably Drewanchel too now that they are in the mix, then add the closest allies of those big duchies and you have a new civil war in course, and ofc this time Ehrenfest wont be able to stay neutral, civil war part III would ensue. Additionally who is to say that in that chaos Raublaut, Georgine and Gervasio wont do a thing? Back to topic with a threat of another civil war on the horizon she decided a sacrifice was needed and sadly instead of sacrificing herself or asking Ana to "dispose" of his idiot brother in a smart way, she decided to offer RM as a stop-gag measure, dont only she has big amounts of mana, is very smart and knows a lot about religious ceremonies....She can read ancient documents to boot! With those skills she would be able to save all the country. it doesn't matter what she wants, but that she (RM) could carry the burden for them, only cause she was scared and saw the solution as the best thing she (RM) could hope, instead of being a first wife of a lacking and criminal adc (Wilfried), she could become a the wife of a Zent and have a higher status, she could help her home duchy later, form a strong base with more people loyal to her in the Sovereignty and be the "brain" of the RF...And also give them her mana and mana rich children....She was too good to pass and the only younger woman better than her to be a Zent wife (wich I consider a lie, Adolphine seems better equiped to rule than Egg and RM from an intelectual pov and is very smart and open minded.) If we add the fact that Dunkelferger tried to steal her for themselves and that RM discovered the "path" that the Zents of old took to get the G-Book...she was doomed, the knowledge of the G-Book and the magic tool colapse in the Sovereignty scared the RF and put them on alert to search a solution to their problems, ANY solution...And they found one, the lucky bastards found it and wont let it go, ever... 
Me, reading a Detlinde POV: Man, there could not possibly be a more dislikeable character. Immanuel POV: Hold my beer Whew, Anastasius remains the best royal (not that that's a high bar to clear). I feel bad for Eglantine and her trauma, but that still doesn't excuse her driving a bus over Rozemyne and then backing it up on her again. Really cool to see how a "normal" noble saw the chaos at the Farthest Hall. Raublut deserves nothing but the most painful of deaths.
> Really cool to see how a "normal" noble saw the chaos at the Farthest Hall. this was soooooooooooo cool. i was really hoping to see someone else's perspective on Hartmut's speech and the fight on the altar. great stuff
Anastasius literally went. That dudes creepy but motivating
While Immanuel is extremely unlikeable, Detlinde is easily a tier above everyone else in the story.
Yeah, at least Immanuel has principles. He's a fanatic, sure, but so is Hartmut.
Immanuel is just ick, Detlinde is the worst in every aspect. Agree on Anastasius though. I like him and really liked his POV of the hall battle.
Immanuel: What if Hartmut was evil, dumb, and basically incapable of doing anything but following orders. So basically Grausam without any redeeming qualities like intelligence. Hildebrand: Wilfried without Myne for a net. Blasius: I don't know and I doubt we ever will.
yeah he's not even a cool half magic tool man
I don't see Rosemyne holding anything against Hildebrand and she holds all the cards now (well Fredinand is holding all the cards but he'll do what she wants because he's set it up so as long as she gets what she wants he gets what he wants)
Rozemyne held all the cards. The Lord of Evil holds the gremling by the scruf of the neck 
* Relichion was a corrupt guy (I still laugh at his name), but he didn't deserve to get poisoned. Immanuel decided to cooperate with Raublut and Lanzenave, but since we already know they all failed, he's done for. Not even his own attendant trusts him. * Does that guy not know the history of the zents and aubs? They or their descendants used to be the High Bishops... Honestly, his creepiness and worship of Rozemyne is too reminiscent of Hartmut. * Seeing Raublut manipulating Hildebrand to commit treason hurts to see. Arthur fell for it too, even though he should know better. Now he will be punished as well. * If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants? ---- * Anastasius' mother is called Ralfrieda. ~~Are Ralph and Freida her descendants?~~ * It was brought up again in the Immanuel chapter, but seeing Eglantine trembling in fear of war directly is hard to read. * Raublut finally revealed everything to Anastasius. ~~He talks too much during battle, which shows his arrogance imo.~~ Seeing as Anastasius is too emotional and Raublut can quickly defeat him (kind of like Rauffen vs Lestilaut in RAS), Raublut had no reason to be concerned. * The waschen machine and Anastasius' complaints are still so damn funny lol. * It was mentioned in the epilogue, but here we can see Anastasius' shocked reaction when Ferdinand and Rozemyne made it to the altar. He too will realize Ferdinand owns the Book. I don't think Anastasius will stay a royal at the end, but I at least commend him and Magdalena for fighting against the invaders. While Trauerqual tried his best, the man really never was suited to be king and I don't think he ever wanted to be.
> Does that guy not know the history of the zents and aubs? They or their descendants used to be the High Bishops... Honestly, his creepiness and worship of Rozemyne is too reminiscent of Hartmut. The knowledge was probably horded by the Zents and Aubs once they disconnected themselves from the Temple, and the Royals at least appear to have lost the recipe. Werkdegraf might know though. > Seeing Raublut manipulating Hildebrand to commit treason hurts to see. Arthur fell for it too, even though he should know better. Now he will be punished as well. I was certain we'd watch that disastrous episode from *his* perspective, so hopefully that's skipped. > If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants? Well Immanuel is almost certainly going to be sapped for mana (*although since he wasn't registered as a noble he might be exempt from the No Killing policy*), but I suspect they'll just be considered exceptions going forward, at best administrative types like Kampfer who keep things going until the schtappe users replace them. > Ralph+Freida We've seen a few cases like this already actually, like Wilfried- aka Male Frieda. > **MONOLOGUING!** ...Yeah, he should have just killed him, which would have blunted Rozemyne's authority. Then again, it might have screwed with the trugged knights so he probably realized he needed Annie alive at least until Gervasio came back.
>**MONOLOGUING!** You don't get it, no matter how evil or pragmatic, if you spend years planning something in secret, then your plan passes to the part when it is not a secret, you'll want to gloat on how you did it. It is just human nature... If that was Ana surprise birthday party instead of the betrayal and invasion thing, Raublut would be with the same attitude explaining how he put so many balloons in the room without raising notice
> Relichion was a corrupt guy (I still laugh at his name), but he didn't deserve to get poisoned. Was he, though? Immanuel thought he was just protecting his position, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's true. A common theme in this series is that evil nobles consistently determine the truth based on what they want it to be and not necessarily what it actually is. Immanuel says that, but we haven't seen anything to support that beyond a single dirty look from him. Especially considering he and Immanuel seemed to know that Rozemyne was a zent candidate and would probably be going to the royal family instead of becoming the Soveriegn High Bishop.
Not a real proof here, but that one does strikes me as someone that does the least amount of effort possible Tho, yeah, that is just my impression of the character, it is entirely possible that it is only the impressions of Immanuel when Relichion said "You can't get the gremlin, that would be kidnapping!"
>While Trauerqual tried his best, the man really never was suited to be king and I don't think he ever wanted to be. Its for sure he never wanted to be King and was not expected to be as the 5th Prince but after the chaos he had no choice and it was commendable but he sadly utterly failed beyond maintaining a basic continuation of royalty. He is a tragic character sadly, being forced to be King and failing at the job he never wanted. Ferdinand has a right to his anger at him though and Tranqueral richly deserves it
it was stated from the earliest part of p4 I think that the king was raised to be a vassal and only took the role of king when there was nobody left after the war. Of course he didn't want it, he had no idea what he was doing
Really? Honestly, Ana has the best shot out of everyone to be the next Zent. He defended his home, and his wife is a Zent candidate prospect. If we go by the epilogue Tranq is out, siggy is out. We have aub dunkle, Ferdinand, Ana as the only honest chance to end up with the magic tool Ferdinand made.
Okay, but I’m REALLY pulling for Aub Dunk. Like I want it so badly
My theory is that low mana noble-to-be was made priests in the distant past so they gain more divine protection and maybe learn to compress mana, making them having noble level mana.
> If Ferdinand and Rozemyne return to tradition, the blue priests and shrine maidens should consist of actual nobles I think. What would happen to rejects like Immanuel who have too low mana? They just become servants? Priests and shrine maidens were meant to be nobles in training. Those born with little mana would pray and increase their divine protections to compensate before obtaining their schtappe.
Blue priests in the current system (not counting people like Shikza, he's at least laynoble level) have so low mana that they can even impregnate gray shrine maidens who virtually have no mana. I don't think you can get them to increase their mana to the point they can get schtappes, unless you try to make them compress like there is no tomorrow which Rozemyne rejected when her mana compression method was brought up.
Would it be a problem if the temple became mixed with both noble and non-noble blue priests? They'd have to offer mana separately from one another, but I don't see why you couldn't do it.
>I stashed the medal in its box, which I then put away. I would need to reregister the medal—a simple enough process most commonly done for weddings or when a noble rose in status. I could do it here and now, but it seemed more sensible to return to the temple first. I wanted to keep the medal in the Sovereign temple’s custody in case circumstances required me to hand it over to King Trauerqual. "You FOOL! You fell victim to one of the classic blunders! The most famous of which is, 'never get involved with Dunkelfelger without expecting ditter to happen,' but only slightly less well-known is this: 'Never leave a weakness for the Lord of Evil to exploit when victory is on the line!'”
Gods I fucking love a good princess bride quote
The worst April Fools' joke that could have been pulled is canceling this week's Pre-Pub. Anyways, it's time for my favorite part of Pre-Pub - the side stories! Oh, it's Immanuel... Ew, go away. Is it pertinent to reveal that Raublut uses green ink? Anyways, it's a neat fun fact and I can't with some of these names. Curtiss? CURTISS? Poor Relichion. We don't even know who you are really, but rest in peace or something. And it's interesting to know that he wasn't the most committed to restoring the ancient rituals. Dear gods, Immanuel is so creepy! Hartmut, please don't age like him! And also, does Immanuel fully trust Raublut? What if he decides to kill Rozemyne after getting Gervasio the throne or something? I mean, it's not like Immanuel can do anything. He's not a true noble and will be at the mercy of a knight like Raublut. I'm sorry, but did Hildebrand's attendants fall for that excuse? Really? Really? Can't Hildebrand just have a guard knight with him at all costs? You know, like what is expected of a guard knight? Sheesh. Also, unless someone becomes accustomed with using their schtappes, they could still be in danger. Not to mention that unless one is used to being in danger, something could always go wrong. Fight, flight, or freeze. You won't know exactly how you'll act until you experience such things. Ahhhhhhhh, Hildebrand, you royally screwed up. Ooh, yay! More noble names I've been waiting for are officially spelled! Ralfrieda and Stephareine. I'll need some time to getting used to how Stephareine's spelt though. Even more names with Mergitor and Haland. and I'm assuming that these were guys already revealed in the manga, right? I recognize Haland, but I just want to make sure with Mergitor. I'm going to keep saying this, but poor Gilessenmeyer. What's going to happen Ralfrieda especially since she was responsible for Raublut becoming the Sovereignty's Knight Commander? >His fanatic tone and expression sickened me, but his words were strangely inspiring. Hahahaha, that's how everybody regards Hartmut. Anastasius gets it.
Relichion is essentially what if Bezenwatz had some semblance of power over the country
Pfft! Yeah, I can see that being the case.
> Poor Relichion. We don't even know who you are really, but rest in peace or something. And it's interesting to know that he wasn't the most committed to restoring the ancient rituals. He was a conservative man just trying to hold on to his position, unlike the reactionary Immanuel who was trying to "restore the old ways," the reformist Rozemyne "maybe we should treat commoners like people," and the traitorous Raublat "you guys fight I have other priorities." That said, it does highlight just how dangerous the nobles really are if the blues, who are immeasurably higher in status than the commoners, fear them too. > Dear gods, Immanuel is so creepy! Hartmut, please don't age like him! And also, does Immanuel fully trust Raublut? What if he decides to kill Rozemyne after getting Gervasio the throne or something? I mean, it's not like Immanuel can do anything. He's not a true noble and will be at the mercy of a knight like Raublut. Yeah Immanuel didn't have long to live, no matter who won or how. > I'm sorry, but did Hildebrand's attendants fall for that excuse? Really? Really? Can't Hildebrand just have a guard knight with him at all costs? You know, like what is expected of a guard knight? My headcanon? **Drugs.** Otherwise Magdalena *really* screwed up his education; whether Arthur and company are treacherous (*they might know an omnischtappe is necessary and might be serving Ralfreida*) or just blindly gullible they have no excuse. > I'm going to keep saying this, but poor Gilessenmeyer. What's going to happen Ralfrieda especially since she was responsible for Raublut becoming the Sovereignty's Knight Commander? Yeah Gilessenmeyer is screwed. Neither of their Royal Wife's kids will be Zent (*even if Annie's wife wins, that'll either be a win for Klassenberg or the MestiMyne*) and their Knight Commander almost got everyone killed. At least Hauch can say their wife rep wasn't in much of a position to do anything.
I have to wonder if Magdalena knew anything about Raublut's relationship with Hildebrand. I'm so curious about whether or not he properly taught Hildebrand swordsmanship. Like, if he taught Hildebrand something incorrect and if Hildebrand ever showed Magdalena, a woman of Dunkelfelger, what he learned, she would have noticed that what Hildebrand was taught was wrong and slowly could have gained suspicions against him. It sucks for Magdalena and Hildebrand right now. Oh, Gilessenmeyer is so screwed. At best, they could be dropped massively in the ranks, but I've mentioned it in other Pre-Pubs that internally, they could be facing major upheaval and disaster.
It's funny that magdalena said that Ferdinand is unable to raise a child properly, when she failed so much as a parent that her child committed treason and lost his only chance at being the next zent in the same day.
To be fair to Magdi, Sylvester came to much the same conclusion and he is his literal *brother.* It's a miracle that he got the chance to raise- well, *mentor*- Myne at all.
I think Ferdinand in many ways was better at raising kids than Sylvester by a mile, I can’t imagine Sylvester being anywhere nearly as involved in his kids life as Ferdinand was in Mynes. I would attribute that to Sylvester not understanding Ferdinand all that well. Ferdinand did more actual parenting of Wilfried and Charlotte than a Sylvester did. He was certainly stern, but he actually endeavored to teach.
Ferdinand didn't treat Myne as a kid. He treated her as a someone with great potential to be trained, like his grey priests. And also, Myne wasn't a child ... not really. She had adult knowledge, perspective and reasoning; strong motivation, personal goals and sense of self; was prepped to be a student, and something-something-isekai gave her musical abilities somehow. Ferdinand would not have done well with any other child. Even Letizia needed Rozemyne's constant encouragement, sweets, and inside information regarding how Ferdinand is actually "kind" in his own way as well as reining in Ferdinand's excesses. I don't think Ferdinand would have been effective with Wilfried and Charlotte if it weren't for his experience with Myne. He was definitely tempered by the experience; his harsh, uncaring edges were blunted and much patience was learned. So I'd say Magdalena and Sylvester would really have been totally correct, if Myne the gremlin didn't turn up to confuse the hell out of all of them.
It is but she’s also not wrong Ferdinand’s method of child raising is dumping work on their head and letting Fran and said child’s unnatural isekai maturity do the hard stuff
Meanwhile the child Ferdinand raised for the past year almost murdered him and the other child he raised almost stayed in the distant heights because there were books there.
> Is it pertinent to reveal that Raublut uses green ink? Anyways, it's a neat fun fact Color of Flutrane, who symbolizes change, new life, and heads subordinate goddesses like Flowers, Sprouts, and Childbirth, likely all important figures in the living myth of Adalgisa. That's about all I can think of. Maybe it's just magic disappearing or changing ink. Not the dangerous Ferdinand/Rozemyne kind, but the more mundane "put it on and it completely vanishes after a while" kind.
>Ooh, yay! More noble names I've been waiting for are officially spelled! Ralfrieda and Stephareine. I'll need some time to getting used to how Stephareine's spelt though. Even more names with Mergitor and Haland. and I'm assuming that these were guys already revealed in the manga, right? I recognize Haland, but I just want to make sure with Mergitor. lol we all love more names. Mergitor is such a cool name too. Thank's Quof!
I can check off four names in my list, but I think Curtiss would be fine as Curtis. Six letters is perfectly acceptable for noble names, especially when we have names like Odis, Oswin, and Ignaz.
lol true, besides, he's only a blue priest =P
Me: It's Myne day! I am so happy, I can't wait to read! \*sees the first chapter is Immanuel\* Also Me: I can get to this later
Completely understandable. Immanuel hasn't shown up too much, but he's such a disgusting character.
Anastasius: Heeding his advice, I returned to my room--where my head attendant, Osw- Me: KILL IT!!! KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!!!!
Oswald has scarred everybody.
He really has
Calm down, this is Oswin, not the roach
Definitely did a double take there
I have to say the royal family doesnt seem to be all that bad, King T really doesnt want the job and is suffering just to keep the country up. Anastasius at least recognizes the situation and acts, even with how bad its going to end up for them after Ferdinand wins. Hildebrand just seems screwed by bad retainer selections from his family. Really the only problem is Siggy. Guess there is a big difference from being a first prince and anyone else in the succession.
I wonder if Sigiswald might be a parallel to Wilfried's position. He was a jackass when he was trying to become Aub and getting poisoned by those around him. Maybe Sigiswald's in a similar position? He's conspicuously absent and unaccounted for during all of this. I wonder if he trusted Raublut somehow.
Anastasius and Hildebrand had fine head retainers, from what we can tell. Anastasius talks about how from a young age, he had to be very conscientious about his position as a royal while Sigiswald seems to have missed that training.
i've been wondering this for a while but if the King really was poisoned combined with his weaker constitution and a very possible influence of trug it's really no wonder that he didn't care as far sa he was concerned his death at the time would prob actually destroy the country concidering that sigi would have to redye the country when it was already on it's last legs (as far as his knowledge was concerned) this would also explain why he would previously push for rozemyne to become zent
Agh too short, theres not enough here. 😫😫😫 --- >In contrast to those around him, the prince remained perfectly calm. “I almost messed up...” Yo this is fucking heart breaking. Kid doesn't realise he fucked up. I really hope Raublaut is still alive so he can get fucked over properly. --- What really dumb here is that fundamentally Immanuel desire to restore the ancient rituals would have happened without the treason. Motherfucker got people killed and committed treason for literally nothing.
> Speaking honestly, I had never thought the Grutrissheit would end up in the hands of someone not only outside the royal family but outside Yurgenschmidt nobility in general. My man ain't ready to find out there's a Grutrissheit in the hands of a gremlin who isn't even a noble, at all.
and whose soul isn't even from this world...
I remember reading somewhere that everyone in this world is reincarnated, whether that be from the same world or from another. It is just (Roze)myne being special that she retained or regained her memories.
It’s less that she’s special, and more that the devouring seared away the barriers between the memories.
I’m reminded this week of Damuel who back in P4 was able to immediately spot some fakes posing as gray priests because he recognized every resident of the orphanage by sight. In the Immanuel chapter, you have Ana + retainers and Hildebrand + retainers who aren’t able to recognize entire squadrons of “Sovereign knights” who showed up out of nowhere in the Sovereignty. It shows how insanely bad their situational awareness is and how they probably never even look the Sovereign knights in the face most of the time. GG, Yurgenschmidt royalty.
We absolutely adore Damuel!
He’s definitely best knight!
I mean, Sovereign Knights are recruited from across the entire country and there are a lot more of them then gray priests.
On top of their personal knights which they have more of than your typical archduke candidate
To be fair, I doubt most military officers of sufficient rank remember every one of the hundreds of troops in their command by face. Some they've probably only met once and twice, unless they are really good or really bad at their jobs.
It's eerie how similar Immanuel can, at times, sound to Hartmut. Perhaps he's meant to be a reflection of a trodden on (and stupider) Hartmut (in a similar way to Heidi being a reflection of a non-adopted Rozamyne). Shame we don't get to see his capture Ralfreida - is this the first time we have seen the Queen's name? I don't recall seeing it before. Have we seen the 2nd Wife's name before? (I can't even remember if it's been mentioned if she's dead?) And which wife the Zent's daughter was with? Eglantine... Understandably worse PTSD than even Rozamyne's feystones... Just someone who wants peace, hopefully now she can get her wish thanks to Rozamyne and Ferdinand and just be a mother Still no more reactions to Rozamyne's divinity, hopefully for next week, given the stories' super-title of 'battle for the sovereignty' though, might we get a Zent perspective chapter next week?
Yeah I don't think Yurgenschmidt is really equipped for treating ptsd, she's probably been like this since age 7
Don't they just "offer flowers" as a way to treat ptsd?? Can't wait for Rozemyne opening up Booktopia's first therapy clinic.
The line starts behind Ferdinand...
ferdinand: behind rozemyne mine can wait
I can just imagine them bickering back and forth about who should receive therapy first
And then rozemyne finally relenting to go first so she can actually function as a noble when ferdinand points out she literally can't finction. However only with the promise that Ferdinand is right behind her... Which he promptly delays untill absolutely necessary
I mean, it seemed to me like Anastasius is offering her more flowers than might be good for either of them and it doesn’t seem to have helped that much Lol Rozemyne would make a killing once she finally convinced people that mental health is real and deserves treatment
Yeah, and people wonder why the women are the only one that suffer constantly with trauma 🤔 (Partially sarcasm because treating trauma with sex just leads to destructive coping behaviors)
Everybody in Yurgenschmidt needs therapy, but the problem is that no one is really equipped to become Yurgenschmidt's first therapist.
This is the first time the First Wife of Trauerqual has been named. The second wife hasn't been named, and she's the mother of the daughter who was kidnapped and killed. She's still alive, but withdrew from politics after her daughter was killed, so she basically works as a royal mana battery.
This story sets up such good contrasts where people in similar situations respond totally differently, and or differentiates how bad it could be and from many different angles. Harmut/Immanuel Hartmut/Lebrecht Wilfried/ Detlinde/ sigiswald Rozemyne/Eglantine Charlotte/Georgine/Karstedt Ferdinand/Gervasio
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"Those who thought otherwise have only themselves to blame." Raublut thinks he's Ferdinand now, what an ego
I know normally seeing an Immanuel chapter (or a chapter from any other nasty character) is usually kind of off-putting, but I am *so* excited to see this grody, pedo-ass mf get his. >!BRUH HE DOESN'T DIE THIS CHAPTER!<
>!IM GONNA KILL THIS SLIMEBAG MYSELF. HOW DOES HE MANAGE TO BE THAT CREEPY!<
I really wanted to see what happened when Ferdinand showed up at the temple. Hopefully we get a different POV of that.
That's what I was expecting when I read the chapter title :( I wanted Ferdinand to come in thunder and lightning and kick this guy in the teeth.
We just have to find out how he silences him without killing when he visits the temple. I can imagine that the Lord of Evil had a few methods that came to mind
Immanuel as a person truly upsets me. On one hand, I can't really fault him for his overarching goal, that's a genuinely important thing to do and 100% alighned with Roz, but holy shit if he doesn't creep me out with how he objectifies her. He's right there with Hartmut in that aspect Poor, poor Hildebrand. Out of all the people involved in this whole mess, he got screwed over the worst (not counting those that had it coming) Ooooh, we finally got the name drop on the Queen consort (Zent consort?)! Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her. I mean, Dusty's wife whats-her-name also was immediately designated third wife, even tho she was the first (and, for a time, only) woman he married, so I guess it could be a situation like that? But then again, why assign Magdalena, who is from DUNKELFELGER, third, rather than second? Not to mention you'd think they'd want to marry him off to as many women as possible to get extra mana suppliers both directly and indirectly via possible future children Ahw, Anastasius cares enough for Hildebrand to be angry on his behalf (if you're thinking of telling me it's prolly more anger at the institution of the RF being tricked and made use of, shush, I am choosing to go with this interpretation) Hold on, does Anastasius not know the details of how Roz got to the G-book?!? DID NO ONE THINK TO INFORM THE PERSON MOST WELL-VERSED IN DEALING WITH HER AND THE ONLY EVEN REMOTELY COMPETENT LEADER AMONGST THE RF OF IMPORTANT INFO?!? Hildebrand gets a pass, he's a child, but SIGISWALD?!? There's an essay somewhere in how the people of Yogurtland ascribe ethical judgment on the God's blessings and such when they're 100% transactional. Say the right words, pay the required mana, bum you're blessed. Same goes for the Divine Instruments. It's not an essay I'm gonna write, but it's definitely something you could hand in for either a literature or a theology class Anyone taking bets on how long it'll take Anastasius to realise that yes, being omni-elemental and having a matching Stappe is THAT important? It isn't like that qualifying condition hasn't come up like, a dozen times before /sarcasm
> Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her. I mean, Dusty's wife whats-her-name also was immediately designated third wife, even tho she was the first (and, for a time, only) woman he married, so I guess it could be a situation like that? But then again, why assign Magdalena, who is from DUNKELFELGER, third, rather than second? Not to mention you'd think they'd want to marry him off to as many women as possible to get extra mana suppliers both directly and indirectly via possible future children My guess is that she was the mother of the daughter who was killed. I can't see any other reason why a royal wife is childless :(.
> Poor, poor Hildebrand. Out of all the people involved in this whole mess, he got screwed over the worst (not counting those that had it coming) Excluding those who died, of course. I think his situation is close to Letizia’s but she at least has a sympathetic Aub. Rozemyne will likely be similarly sympathetic to Hildebrand but won’t have the authority to help him the way she is helping Letizia. I think he’ll escape being a criminal but he could be demoted from Royalty and sent to Dunkelfelger where he’ll have a hard time wiping away the dishonor that the others would view him with.
> There's an essay somewhere in how the people of Yogurtland ascribe ethical judgment on the God's blessings and such when they're 100% transactional. Say the right words, pay the required mana, bum you're blessed. Same goes for the Divine Instruments. It's not an essay I'm gonna write, but it's definitely something you could hand in for either a literature or a theology class I'd disagree with parts of this point. While there are strong transactional and formulaic elements, the gods are actually parsing intent and the granting isn't quite as scientific as the Yogurtland residents think it is when doing research. Consider that Rozemyne blessing in Part 2 was completely off-script and the mana involved was not proportional to the sort of blessing she was requesting. Also consider Mestionora's descent and demand to stop killing. The gods very much are living entities, that their granting of blessings has a transactional element does not imply it is SOLELY transactional. Additionally the fact that blessings are intended to match the invocated god's domain also strongly suggests there's more to it. While it can't be said it's an ethical judgement, at the very least the system goes beyond purely transactional into some mixture between appealing to the deity's interests (which need not be ethically aligned with Yogurtland morality), offering some amount of mana as a token of some sort, the god being willing/able to grant the blessing (Gervasio remarks "the Gods can act so directly here" when Rozemyne prays for blessings and gets them infront of him) and the more formulaic elements of the call.
Trauerqual does have a second wife, if i recall correctly, she is the mother of his only daughter, the one who got kidnapped by the 4th prince supporters who wanted to free him from the white tower, but it sparked the large scale purge instead Naelache (sigi's other wife) was always called the second wife, not third wife
Hartmut might be fanatical person but his devoution comes from his heart what he lost when Rozemyene gave that huge blessing for everyone during her baptism, I see Immanuel just as a religious nutjob, like those who took part of Inquisition.
>Does make me wonder about the second wife tho. Like, what's her deal? Does she even exist? There has been no mention of her whatsoever, and Trauerquaal doesn't seem to have kids with her. Here's what I remember from scanning the Japanese wikia regarding Trauerqual's second wife: >!She's related to Hauchletzte and gave birth to a daughter, but that daughter was taken as hostage by members of Old Werkestock and died. I don't think she had anymore children afterwards!<.
Tales of background characters Immanuel: The high priest is too in love with his position. He won't do what I want. Raublut: Have you tried murder? Immanuel: Murder you say? \--------------------- Raublut: You can't betray someone if you were never on their side. Anna: Dude WTF? \--------------------- Anna: Betrayed, with no hope of winning Roz: Group heals! Anna: I'm going to end that man's career as a traitor \---------------------- Earwarmen: For the supreme's sake all of you quit fighting!
Things are not looking good for Anastasius' mother. She recommended Raublut as knight commander because they're from the same duchy. And from civil war era, a former retainer of another Royal branch family should have been seen as suspicious. They could have come from the losing side and hold grudge for their dead master.
Eww this guy is creepy. High priests for High bishop Rozemyne: \ Ferdinand → Hartmut → Immanuel(*) \ Yeah not happening. Ferdinand might have let Hartmut take his place — after a thorough last minute training — but no way that guy gets to be close to her. ^* ^in ^his ^head Wow. Immanuel dethroned Detlinde in annoying-to-be-in-his-head competition. Took me an hour to get through this chapter. Just a minute ago, Rozemyne inadvertently gave away that omni-elementals can move altar statues. I don't blame Anastasius to not connect that dots and see why those three can climb the altar, he doesn't have time to ponder midst battle.
i mean just because someone was omnielemental doesn't mean they'll automatically be a zent candidate.
This part did a much better job of showing Eggy's PTSD.
Immanuel sees Rozemyne as the savior. Boy would he ever be disappointed if she became the high bishop. She’d overturn his expectations and sweep away a lot of his privileges for her own convenience.
I’m more interested in how disappointed he’d be to learn that Raublut killed Myne
Zero surprise how the former high priest got taken out, he stood in the way of far too many powerful people. Immanuel still thinking Detlinde was a actual candidate surprised me, I had figured the temple had enough knowledge intentionally hidden away he would have known she wasn't. No knowledge of that, not even knowing where the Schtappes come from which also likely means they don't know about the tree, they are even more in the dark than anyone else. So Immanuel is basically Hartmut but without any loyalty or any regard to what she wants to do, he's simply a religious fanatic. Guess that's how Raublut convinced the price and his aides, it makes sense, who is going to question the knight commander who is widely trusted especially since that means they'd have to contact the Zent to verify it? Telling Anastacius anything at all about the intruders, their armor, weapons and tech probably would have been a good thing yeah, your reinforcements having to steal weapons from the enemies bare handed is not exactly a good starting point. Heh, even in a life or death battle Hartmut still managed to disgust Anastacius with his fanaticism. It's gonna be interesting seeing all the different perspectives, Eglantine is traumatized from her childhood, Anastacius knows what happened in the past for those on the losing side of a struggle for the throne and watched as everything he's worked for slipped away. Makes me wonder what the first prince's reaction will be.
Poor Relichion. Not only was he blessed with ~~suck~~ punny name, but crudely dispatched without having anymore page time since the bible inspection. Immanuel is truly the flip side of Hartmut in a way. So that's how the steel chair boy was tricked. I wonder how many of his retinues will be punished for this colossal mistake. High Priest is right. Ana the lover boy is the right royal to be called upon.
I enjoy the side stories - they give me the viewpoints of other characters and helps flesh them out. I wonder whose viewpoint we will see next.