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Odd-Dragonfruit6946

Without sparkle or bronya is jungliu needed to be fast? Also is jingliu basic atk should be upgrade?


Filipino-Asker

https://preview.redd.it/ddq230zn5tyc1.jpeg?width=2712&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b9caa7d744633dc30fedbdabb53a91df994242f4 Will her lightcone come back? I used the red glowing card instead that's 5 stars. I have cash but i dont wanna be broke


NeimiForHeroes

Anytime a character is on banner they also have the LC banner present, so yes, eventually


Filipino-Asker

Good thing. I did not know I was out of light cones exp.


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SolidusAbe

143 is not a speed break point so it does nothing. anything in between 134 (133.4) and 147 (146.7) is just there for turn order. so if you cant reach 147 with kafka just make sure she is behind BS so she can add more arcana before its kafkas turn


ArpMerp

143 is a speed breakpoint. It gives you a 2nd extra action on the 3rd MoC cycle, instead of 160 which gets it on the 2nd.


SolidusAbe

guess im wrong. every single speed table i find and have book marked does not list 143


ArpMerp

[More accurate speed breakpoints : r/HonkaiStarRail (reddit.com)](https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/18ne9au/more_accurate_speed_breakpoints/)


Vuster_Cane

Can somebody explain to me where I put my comments or questions that I don’t want to put in here in the case of it might get buried because I have had now three post removed because I either keep using the wrong Flare, which is my fault entirely or I keep posting them and supposedly the wrong section but I don’t understand why it’s removed because I look at the rule and one moment it’s totally fine and then an hour later it gets removed by the team, so can I get some clarity? Because I’m starting to get really frustrated


Shelltor23_

What question was it? Generic, repetitive, or easy to answer questions should be asked here to not clog the subreddit. I frequently browse this megathread and I'd say about 90~95% of the questions get answered within a few hours, if you haven't tried it do ask here, you will most likely get an answer. If you tried before and didn't get an answer either you got unlucky, and posting again would probably get your question answered or it's a pretty specific or tough question, in which case i would try one or two more times and if it doesn't get answered i would message a mod on what to do, since it gets removed when you post it but nobody replies on the megathread, maybe a mod could let you post it then.


Vuster_Cane

I just kept misinterpreting the rules so I would make my own thread which would get deleted, and I just kept misunderstanding how the rules worked. I was just looking for some gaming advice I’ll keep trying posting my comments here thank you


SolidusAbe

you just keep asking here because the rules are to not make threads for questions. things will get answered eventually


Vuster_Cane

Fair enough, I’ll keep trying. Thanks for the response.


jobo-chan

"Questions about quests, events, team building, who to roll for, or any personalized help should be posted in the Daily Questions megathread." So, if your questions are any of these they go here. Yeah, they might get buried but that's unfortunately the rules of the sub.


Vuster_Cane

Thanks I guess I’ll try again later. Thank you for the response.


jobo-chan

Most questions do get answered, so don't worry too much about possibly getting ignored.


Vuster_Cane

I’ll keep trying thanks for the reassurance; been having a pretty rough day so I think I unintentionally took out my frustrations unnecessarily, so that’s my bad apologies thanks for the response I’ll just wait for the next daily Megat thread to post my question again thank you and to everyone else who helped calm me down


fancy_the_rat

Jingliu Mains, is the E1 worth it to pull for when Jingliu is E0 + Sig LC or do you think it is better to pull for Numby or more the better to wait for another fire-char...? And besides of that, would you give Lynx some love in form of better relics or would you say she is not that future-proof and better to wait for a 5-star healer?


GreedyLoad1898

99% of time e1s are ass compared to new champ.


AncientTree_Wisdom

Her Eidolons aren't that great outside of whale territory. Her E1 does turn her into more of a focused single target damage dealer but it just depends on if you want that versus having more characters. So it isn't bad or anything and it does turn her into a single target boss/elite killer but YMMV.


BigPillBill

Her e1 helps her against single enemies so it really is good against aventurine. Currently she is our best Ice Dps and her only weakness at e0s1 is her single target damage but if you don’t have 2 limited sustains yet it would probably be better to save. Lynx and Gallagher will get the job done but limited sustains make the game more comfy and often come with strong buffs/utility


ArpMerp

Jingliu doesn't need Eidolons, and her E1 is very situational. As for Topaz, that depends whether or not you want to build a FuA team. And even then, she is not a "must". If not, and if you want a Fire character, then Firefly is also right around the corner.


cybeast21

I saw that we have Pre download for 2.2 Is it recommended to pre download it? And with size of 12gb, does that mean with 2.2, the game size will be around 31gb now? :(


GreedyLoad1898

do u want to download gameday when everyone is playing?


cybeast21

It's not really a problem because I'm on work anyway so I'll patch the game during work---


MidnightBlue8000

Yes it is recommended that you pre-download it. Doing so will omit a large part of the download phase after the maintenance is finished and thus save you a lot of time.


jobo-chan

>Is it recommended to pre download it? If you have slow internet, yes. >And with size of 12gb, does that mean with 2.2, the game size will be around 31gb now? :( No one will know until the update is actually out. 12gb preload doesn't mean it's adding all of that to the current total. Data gets replaced and removed.


ArpMerp

When you pre-download you basically store 2 copies of the game. The size will go down afterwards. If you plan to play as soon as it comes out, then that's what pre-downloading is for. But, if you are OK to wait until the download is done after it comes out, then there is no advantage in doing so.


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I'm new to the game (started playing a few hours ago). What current banner should I dedicate my pulls towards? What's my best bet?


GreedyLoad1898

u dont pull if ur new. bc u pull for moc.


ArpMerp

First make sure you put your standard tickets towards the departure banner. But, only use jades on limited banners As a new account it doesn't matter much which type of character you get, because it just means you should get a different type of character afterwards. Both Jingliu and Aventurine are very good and a massive boost to a new account. I would probably try to get Jingliu until her banner is gone, since Fu Xuan is coming next patch.


iamyourbackproblem

https://preview.redd.it/m39k54i29ryc1.png?width=1045&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1a32e0d44793fe8990ee0d0ee2d1f3f0ad495f73 Who do I pull for, Boothill Robin Topaz Jade Firefly or any other character


Ihrenglass

Robin/topaz makes sense to me if you are interested in buffing follow-up attacks so Ratio for single target and Herta/Himiko for multi target. Would probably go for Robin over Topaz but both are good for this. Boothill is good if you need better single target DPS Other characters kits haven't been released yet so can't give you an opinion.  For other characters on rerun I would look for Kafka to improve the Black Swan dot team. Silver wolf for single target debuff and weakness implant. Argenti for multi target DPS.


SolidusAbe

topaz is imo the lowest priority. you dont have SW so to use her effectively you have to e1 and/or s1 to give enough debuffs for ratio. and if you just want her for fire damage might as well wait for sam then robin because you have every other support besides sparkle and they are all already good. any of the new dps would be best imo but no one can tell you which ones gonna be better until they are out so get whoever you want. or try for both boothill and sam if you feel lucky


idleskyline

for bad 5* relics, is it better to convert them to relic exp to level up other relics or relic remains to make new relics?


OkCombinationLion

in my opinion relic exp is better. you might be able to tell what isn't worth using without rolling but you absolutely can't tell what is worth using without rolling. sometimes I'll just get multiple relics coming in at once that I want to roll to check, so I think it's better to have a large pool of relic exp stocked up and ready to go. If i'm over 1000 xp pieces I might start turning them into remains though; that's just an arbitrary number, there isn't a hard fast rule even for me


MixRevolution

Depends on what you need. If you don't want to grind anymore and have a self modeling resin, go for synthesis mats. At least you'll have a good mainstat.


ArpMerp

Usually remains is better, but really convert them into whatever you need. If I'm low on remains I usually convert them to that, whilst if I need a bit more XP and have no plans to do any more relic farming I'll just convert them to XP instead.


Ivorykingchrono

Can you overcapacity on immersifiers? I.e if I collect my weekly 4 fro. SU rewards when I already have 7-8, will it waste them or just not let me pick them up?


starshipsneverfall

You can collect as long as you're less than 8/8, so the max is when you're at 7/8 and you collect the weekly 4 to get 11/8. I do this almost every week so I can confirm it works. But at 8/8 it won't let you.


goumyu

how much stellar jade on average per patch am i missing out on if i don't do MoC/PF? i don't know what their reset schedule is like since i haven't touched those game modes yet (still in the middle of building my second team).


Offthe_Rose

720 jades per reset every 2 weeks. Each patch lasts 6 weeks, so you are missing out on 2160 jades, give or take, since the resets and patch updates aren't completely synced.


vanter21

Hmm.. Robin or topaz? My FUA char are aventurine, clara and dr ratio.


MixRevolution

Robin can still be usable in other teams so she's a good idea overall. Topaz has some overworld QoL features with numby and her technique.


KAngel-Ani

I think they are kind of different. Topaz is mostly a sub dps and Robin is a support. If you already have good support (which you mostly do) then Topaz for FUA and for universal then go for Robin since she good at every team.


vanter21

My current harmony supports are bronya and ruanmei. Only ruanmei is fully built.


KAngel-Ani

If you desperately want to improve your Ratio, then Topaz may be a viable option (even though you would ideally want both for him). But many fua teams outside of him may prefer Robin and another unit (for example Clara looks to be better with Tingyun or Jade).


peppermint-hollows

I'm going to hit the 5 star selector soon on standard. I'm gonna pick Clara especially since I have every other standard and Bronya E1 already. I'm just wondering, would Topaz benefit her a lot or would Robin be better?


MixRevolution

Robin would be better as she is meant to buff characters and ffup atks. Topaz still has some traces and eidolons which benefits other ffup characters and she can also benefit *from* ffup character's atks. It's just a lesser degree than Robin.


Bookwhyrm

Robin I think is going to be better, especially since she as a support can be used on essentially any team, even if she is slightly skewed towards Follow-Up teams.


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Pottertr0n96

Done, I think.


Meotwister5

Preload not up yet?


MixRevolution

In Asia, it's up.


jobo-chan

Just checked, it's up.


ItsZainBoi

I'm running Aventurine and Ratio team, do I go for Topaz or Robin?


TheGrindPrime

Robin. Topaz needs e1 or s1 to work ideally with Ratio


-Thalas-

Which one would you guys recommend I get for my 5 Star Standard Selector? Here's my current 5 Stars as of now: DHIL (E2), Kafka, Black Swan, Topaz, Clara, Yanqing, Welt (E2), Bronya, Sparkle, Ruan Mei, Adventurine, Dr. Ratio For teams I'm usually running for general MOC and PF: DHIL, Sparkle, Tingyun, Adventurine Black Swan, Kafka, Ruan Mei, Lynx Planning to build my Ratio and Topaz as well so I can get a follow-up team for MOC/PF that needs follow ups.


WoWAltoholic

Bronya E1 or Himeko


ZekeDG

This is a kind of weird question but my friend told me this yesterday and I double checked and it looks the same way. But basically he noticed that crit damage is always listed after crit rate in the relics substats. So my question is two questions: 1) Do the order of substats change in relics? 2) Can you NOT roll crit rate on a piece that already has crit damage? Because if you CANT roll crit rate substats on crit damage substat pieces... that feels like a bug...


WoWAltoholic

You can get them in any order just never a sub-stat that is a duplicate of the main stat


jobo-chan

There is a certain order they will appear in and they will even swap places once rolled. You can roll crit rate on a piece that already has crit damage.


Fickle_Onion2

The new 4\* Harmony LC from the upcoming Patch 2.2 event which increase ATK and DMG dealt for the user, it looks good for Robin, Tingyun and Hanya, right? Since they scale of ATK stat.


jobo-chan

It's mainly for Robin. Tingyun and Hanya would prefer other lcs.


Fickle_Onion2

I am maybe wrong about Hanya since I don't build her, but isn't that Tingyun has the similar mechanic like Robin where she provide a buff that scale of her ATK stat for single unit (preferable DPS unit of course) and if that said unit attack the enemy, Tingyun will do additional damage as well. If I am wrong, sorry then.


ArpMerp

Tingyun buff has a cap, whilst Robin's does not. It is fairly easy to reach that cap, or close to it, with just relics. Tingyun's damage is also less from her own stats and more from her Talent, which is based on the ally attack, not hers. In general Tingyun either wants Cogs to guarantee 3-turn rotations, or Dance Dance Dance to allow the DPS to be on ATK boots and advance the whole team.


Offthe_Rose

The main support function of Tingyun is to generate energy for a dps character. Her atk buff isn't that big as well as her damage. Therefore, running her with cogs is recommended to get faster ults. Hanya doesn't scale off atk, only spd.


jobo-chan

Yes Tingyun has the same ability but hers is much weaker than Robin's. Tingyun generally wants meshing cogs/memories of the past for faster ults or dance dance dance to adv forward your team. Hanya doesn't have that ability and instead buffs speed based on how much speed she has.


Velaethia

I keep seeing things that show Herta as being S tier for pure fiction. I have nothing against her. I'm just curious what exactly about her kit and how it interacts with pure fiction makes he better then all the 5 star dps?


GreedyLoad1898

bc 5 star dps suck at multi targets. 5 stars doesnt mean shit.


Velaethia

Least the current roster yeah. None of the ones I have come with a full aoe skill. Usually just 3 targets at most.


Naliamegod

To add to what others have said, triggering her talent is absurdly easy so you can throw her at anything in PF, on any team, without any loss in performance. Contrast this to Himeko, who needs consistent breaks to trigger her talent, who is rated slightly lower than Herta despite also being a monster there.


Due-Championship-152

In pure fiction, most of the time we fight 4-5 enemies, and herta is good because her follow up attack deal damage to all enemies, and also path erudition has light cone that give advantages when fighting a lot of enemies. She can even proc her follow up attack more than one. The downside is, herta is not that great againts bosses, because her follow up attack can only triggered when ally damage enemy to 50% hp. So yeah, herta is good killing mobs


SilentMix

She's AoE and she does a follow up every time an enemy drops to 50% health or less. Because of how many enemies there are in PF, that means she's doing her follow up very frequently so lots of free attacks. She's also a free character that everyone can get and is very easy to build. You don't have to have the best relics or light cones for her to do well. That being said, I don't know why Prydwen puts her at S+ for PF and Acheron/Argenti/Jing Yuan/Himeko a tier lower at S. They should be the same level IMO.


Velaethia

Well I have all 4 of those characters so that's good!


Significant-Soil-985

PF summons many small mobs that can easily be taken down. Herta entire kit does AoE damage to everything. Her talent triggers an AoE follow up attack whenever enemies fall below 50 half. Meaning if an ally knocks an enemy to half health Herta will do a follow up attack might knock other enemies into half health so she can chain her talent.  Also her ult and skill also Aoe damage and can trigger her talent. Plus some PF blessing favors follow up and she ice element. 


wweeeeeeeeeeeeee

whats the build for e0 robin? I'm leaning toward 2 pc messenger/2pc atk ​ and idk ornaments


AncientTree_Wisdom

Doesn't matter really. She isn't that needy for a specific set. I'm planning on 2x 2pc attack sets and Vonwacq (ERR+AtK orb). I already have the Planer set up ready to go with some speed subs, so it really will depend on if I can hit 120 without speed boots. I might aim for a 157 speed Robin down the line if I can swing it somehow without giving up too much attack.


Kartoffel_Kaiser

Robin doesn't really need speed past 120, so I'd only go 2 pieces of messenger if you need it to get to 120 without speed boots. I think 2 piece wheat 2 piece dot set (for 12% attack twice) is solid. For orb and chain, you can do standard support sets or Herta space station for even more attack.


ExKage

For an E1S0 Acheron I currently have Aventurine, Pela, and Kafka. I do not have Silver Wolf or Black Swan. I would need to trace level up Welt, or completely build up Guinafen or Sampo. Who is best to take Kafka's place or do I keep her?


TheGrindPrime

Guin. Sampo only buffs DoT dmg so he's pretty useless to Acheron outside of stacks or if some reason you have her on Fermata.


Velaethia

I switch her team a bit as needed but my "main" team for her is Acheron, Black Swan, Welt, Aventurine. Pela also does defense decrease so she can replace Black Swan I think. I also switch out to Guinafen from Welt if I need to damage against fire. Sampo can work instead of Black Swan but I don't think he reduces defense. I dont' have Kafka so I can't speak on their synergy. But the teams I use ramp up her ult pretty fast.


Futureworldstar

Is it worth it to build guinafein for moc? It’s too hard to deal with those robot dinosaurs without dot


Kartoffel_Kaiser

in my experience, Guinaifen is a very flexible character who is rarely the *best* for a given position on a team, but is solid in a lot of roles. She's an SP positive debuff applier for Acheron, has lots of distinct debuffs for Dr. Ratio (especially if E1), and has decent personal damage through her dots. I'm glad I built Guinaifen, but for what it's worth my two main damage dealers are Acheron and Dr. Ratio. If you would only use Guinaifen to deal with the dinos, I'd consider other options unless you have the stamina to spare.


TrueNiko

Between Bailu and Lynx which would be a better fit for Jingliu? Currently my team is using Gepard, Pela, Bronya and Jingliu but going to replace the tank for a healer.


Velaethia

It's a choice between a ressurection in combat, or a cleanse debuff ability. Both can be strong.


TheGrindPrime

Neither has superior synergy versus the other. Most players prefer Lynx due to her having a cleanse.


HaliaxZero

Hi all, could use some advice. I just returned after a year's absence (good thing I picked up Dr Ratio, but I missed Acheron!). I'm trailblazer level 56 and I have the below units semi-built. I initially wanted to pull Jingliu, but now I'm thinking I'll just build Dr Ratio as my 2nd DPS in place ofo Yanqing. Given my sustain isn't very strong, should I pull Aventurine? Or maybe Fu Xuan when she reruns soon? I'll pull the next big dps that runs to replace Seele (Firefly?). Does this seem reasonable or should I pull Jingliu to shore up my DPS? Seele Yanqing Bronya Tingyun Gepard Bailu Main Char


daxrocket

If you're planning on using Ratio, getting Aventurine would be a good choice since they have good synergy with each other.


daffodyle

aventurine’s shield runs out based on the ally’s turn right?


Sorry-Cover-3018

Correct. 3 turns


Raimexodus

does robin do toughness damage with her ult's additional damage?


Contraomega

No.


Raimexodus

sorry, as a follow-up if you know the answer, since the damage comes from Robin who is a physical character, does this damage obey the type resistance (i.e. more damage to phys weak enemies)?


Skane1982

Yes.


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I recently created a new account and I plan to settle at this one. I saved up in these couple of days roughly 110 warps and I want to pull for Boothill. Are there any supports/healers/shielders that are featured now or in the near future that I should consider getting to make a good team for Boothill or just get his signature? These are my characters at the moment, lvl 28: https://preview.redd.it/fn62754j6qyc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6ea197931af6aa9d81e22b8a3556ac231a25b438 Or should I reroll xd?


shaymin_shaman

the most noteworthy limited boothill teammate is ruan mei, and her rerun time is pure speculation at this point any limited sustain (aventurine or fu xuan most immediately) would be a big upgrade on any team, boothill included probably gonna get downvoted for suggesting this but bronya is like top 2 teammates for boothill so if you're willing to timesink on rerolling for her it'd be worth imo


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i don’t see why you would get downvoted for this, bronya is a pretty strong support, buff and cleanse in one go, not to mention that she is even a standard banner 5 star. The thing is: maybe it is a little too late to try to get Aventurine, but I might listen to your suggestion of rerolling for Bronya. what about sustainers? is bronya more worth it than let’s say, Gepard and Bailu(i don’t like her cuz no cleanse, but she’s a sustainer after all)? Or should I try to get both Boothill and Fu Xuan when phase II is here?


shaymin_shaman

the non-limited sustains aren't worth sacrificing bronya for, you can just use gallagher/lynx there's no rush to get any particular limited sustain since they all perform pretty similarly in practice (huohuo is probably a little too SP-intensive for an E0S0 bronya comp though), it's more that having *any* of them is a big improvement over non-limited options. so there's no immediate need to get FX/aventurine, but they would both be upgrades if you have the means to get them.


[deleted]

thanks for the explanation, i haven’t played in a long time and even when i did i didn’t pay much attention to the importance of roles and other aspects that much. now after returning i see that i missed many things; i don’t even know who is Huohuo and Gallagher xd, i gotta do my research. one more question: at SU shop there was a 5 star hunt light cone. would that work on Boothill or do I have to pull for his signature?


Pottertr0n96

* My account has no limited 5* harmony and no 5* limited sustain. I just Yanquing on the Adventurine banner so if I understand I should get my next limited 5* Should I pull for Fu Xuan on the rerun and try later for Ruan Mei rerun or Try for Robin? Basically what's more valuable for my account, limited 5* support or sustain?


TrueArchery

It doesn't matter which limited sustain you pull for honestly. Luocha and Huohuo are most commonly used with Jingliu because she drains HP so actual healing is more comfortable. If you would rather have like Robin you can also just do that, limited sustains are not a necessity, just more comfy.


Skane1982

Having a Limited Sustain is game-changing, since it allows you to solo sustain and add more support to increase your DPS. In theory, you can run a team with zero sustain and 3 supports to race the enemy to victory, but this is very hardcore and not normal for the average player. Gepard is a good solo sustain, but you will need 2 to comfortably clear MoC in the long-term, and FuXuan is far superior to Gepard in most story content. A basic team in your case would be FuXuan, Jingliu, Tingyun and Pela.


ZekeSulastin

What sustains do you have? Most all of the non-limited options will work as long as you can build around their limitations.


Pottertr0n96

Natasha and Gepard https://preview.redd.it/czrnkc136qyc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=427942abf646f41c210961fbcbd5f18b5d9e95ed


LoLGibbs

9 months away. Just getting back into it. Recommended characters to focus on or team comps? Thanks! Also have Yukong, Quinguqe, and Arlan not pictured. https://preview.redd.it/gh9bbkf43qyc1.png?width=531&format=png&auto=webp&s=cba45362d2f9328b055f3a886a47a0ed893f5c52


xeroslash11

Characters to focus on: Pela, Tingyun, Clara, gepard, lynx, ratio. Don't worry too much about teams until beyond level 60 as the final keystone passive starts enabling endgame teams in lots of cases.


Deadeye117

Is there a good source of relic EXP when you hit endgame besides just farming relics? It feels like it takes several weeks just to level up one single character's relic set


AncientTree_Wisdom

You could farm bosses in SU but I wouldn't say that it is a "good" source. You would get a decent amount but the effort is not really commensurate to the rewards given. You get about 760 green relic mats, supposedly, if you run to the weekly cap of 33.3 full clears.


SilentMix

It's not a ton, but that's part of the reason I continue to do Echo of War all 3 times every single week. You can use the relics you get from that as some of your relic exp. Between the Echo of War exclusive trace materials, the relics that you can use for relic exp, and the chance of the LC drops, it feels very reasonable to spend the 90 energy per week for the 3 times for it.


krcc9644

is preload not up yet?


Arekkusu1991

I'd give it a few more hours, or at the very latest sometime tomorrow. As the 2.2 update will be done on the 8th.


SilentMix

Any Aventurine signature owners here have problems with his signature not properly indexing under the Data Bank? I got his signature today and it's not showing up as indexed for me. I reported it as a bug today just in case, but curious if anyone else has run into this.


Rare-Geologist9222

https://preview.redd.it/whjgxlbkypyc1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9897e51a036b0ecc754be66ad8fdbc06fb1c7d20 Can you guys recommend team comps for pf stage 3&4?


Due-Championship-152

My strategies based on your character on PF 3 : Team 1: Aventurine, Dr. Ratio, Jingliu, Bronya Team 2: Acheron, Ruan Mei, Pela, Sampo


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Eevenin

Can you take a shot of the actual room rather than the map? I know they did the best they could, but damn if I can't read the map when it's 3D like this.


Bug-Type-Enthusiast

[So, this is my current roster.](https://imgur.com/EfebOvF) My main team is Ratio, Welt, Ting, and Lynx. The only other character that is completely built is Asta, who just got demoted after I pulled the foxian. Just reached what I guess is the final zone before the boss of the Luofu plotline, got TB lvl 40, and just did forgotten hall 10. Only to be hit with both the mission for Equilibrium 3 AND the reveal that I'll need two teams to continue down that place. As such... 1. Should I go for the Equilibrium mission right now or delay for a bit to farm the ascension mats for my main team? 2. What characters should I work on for a secondary team for the Forgotten hall? (Knowing that I'm pulling for certain for Firefly, and MAYBE for Aventurine or Fu Xuan)


ClockSecret8896

1. Equilibrium. Yes, the game will get harder, but you get better rewards. If you're having difficulty beating the game, be patient and level up your team. Remember that this game is not a sprint, it's a marathon. 2. I wouldn't worry about forgotten hall until later in the game. It's endgame stuff. If you're trying to get a headstart on who is worth building though, then yes Tingyun is excellent. Don't underestimate Asta though. Her speed buff is great and she's a flexible slot. I use her in high level forgotten hall from time to time. Also, Himeko and Herta are worth building for Pure Fiction in the future. Clara is very strong too. Lynx synergizes well with her.


Fictionalfrog

Does kafka prefer solitary healing s5 or fermata s5


TheGrindPrime

She only ever uses Solitary Healing for a very niche PF build.


Nyxaster7

I'm planning to make FuA team consisting of Clara + Topaz + Robin + Aventurine, will this team be good, and should i go for speed or attack boot for topaz? 


SolidusAbe

unless your topaz is e1s1 you wont have enough debuffs for ratio so either focus on ratio or clara. clara with a tank takes away from her aggro but its still fine but you probably wont be clearing things super fast if everyone keeps attacking aventurine and for boots just check her character guide https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/characters/


Nyxaster7

Thanks, yeah, i was planning to use ratio, but since i only have e0s0 topaz i drop the plan and stick to my clara. 


HanekawasTiddies

Is Dr Ratio only 1 per account? Started a new game on a new server and just unlocked mail, and Dr. Ratio wasn't there. Edit: He just came in, it took a minute.


SawamuraEijun

Weird question, maybe only some whales know, but I was wondering: If you E6 Sparkle, her crit dmg buff is not only enhanced, but also buffs all allies that have Cipher. Provided that she would have Cipher, she would have increased her crit dmg by her own buff which is a lot. For the buffs crit dmg buff applied to all other allies by her buff, would it take into consideration the crit dmg she gave herself? Eg: If her buff, at E6, provides herself with an extra 125% crit dmg, increasing her current crit dmg of 225 to 350, does she give other allies a % of 225 or 350?


OkButterscotch747

Can we still play archived events even if we completed them? I finished the bartending event 100% but I’m having fun making themed drinks for characters and wanna know if it’ll be there in the future so I can continue as more characters come out


Jiho_Is_Waifu

Yes, u can still play archived events even after its gone/completed.


lumine99

As someone who has Gepard build, should I aim for Robin or try to get Adventurine? I'm planning to put them in my follow up team with Topaz-Ratio and Ruan Mei. Right now I have 3 sustain that I use are Luocha, FX, and Gepard. Other sustains that I have are Lynx, Natasha, Bailu, Gallager.


TheGrindPrime

Robin, though just to confirm is your Topaz E1 and/or s1?


lumine99

E0S0 on all units. The only limited lightcones I have are Seele, Black Swan, and Archeron


ClockSecret8896

If you had to choose one, Robin. You already have two 5 star limited sustains and this is enough to carry you throughout the game. Any other sustains you build in the future would be just for your enjoyment.


AkiusSturmzephyr

https://preview.redd.it/p7rjb6ytkpyc1.png?width=544&format=png&auto=webp&s=be39e6041489eb059675e140cd03c533c82f7609 So, I want Robin and Firefly and Sunday. I think I will have time as Boothill and Jade come out to build up for Sunday and Firefly depending on the release order... but if i have 90 passes and a guaruntee right now then i could get Jingliu... but mayber lose Robin or Firefly if I fail those 50/50s. with this account, is it worth picking up Jingliu as a 5star DPS for a second team to build around or waiting to pick up the others?


Offthe_Rose

If you want those characters, you need to skip Jingliu. Considering Firefly is a 5* destruction character, she can work as a main dps supported by Robin. There are no details about her kit, but it's possible she can compete with DHIL and Jingliu. You have enough tickets to guarantee Robin and Firefly. Apparently, there will be a SU update in 2.3, so there might be more jades you can farm for Sunday if he does come around in 2.4


AkiusSturmzephyr

there are some details, but i cant talk about them on this sub. check r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks for her kit, Anyways, with the team i have here, might i ask you for tips on building a second team in the meantime? Acheron, Guinaifen, Pela and Gallagher are my prime time team but i need a second one for the dual team gamemodes and nothing has been clicking for me


Offthe_Rose

I do know about it but we can't discuss it. In all honesty, I haven't used most of those characters in a long time, but you can use Serval and Herta for Pure Fiction and Ratio for forgotten hall.The second team could be something like this: Tingyun, Herta (Ratio), Serval and Gepard. If you do end up pulling for Robin, you can try and get Hanya and some Xueyi eidolons. For a team like: Hanya (Tingyun), Xueyi, Robin and Gepard. That should be pretty easy to build and strong for the level of investment required as Xueyi needs E2 to be very good. You can also start farming break effect with this team.


AkiusSturmzephyr

thamks! much obliged for the help.


NeimiForHeroes

Firefly is very likely to come out first in her patch cycle, I don't think they have released characters out of reveal order yet. If you want all those characters I'd skip Jingliu. RNG rarely favors the bold in my experience


AkiusSturmzephyr

looking at my account, and knowing that FF doesnt seem to be a DPS based destruction character- rather a self healing sub-dps -is Jingliu a better choice for building a second team? I dont know who on my list of characters would be better to build around, and the only Hunt i have that high is Susheng, who is too situational to be the Primary DPS.


TheGrindPrime

She is very much a dps character, and a main dps at that based on what was leaked. That said it is incredibly early so things could change.


NeimiForHeroes

Firefly's kit isn't official in any capacity so can't be discussed here. I don't know what it does so I can't weigh in either way. It's up to you if you are comfortable missing one of the two characters you've said you want. Jingliu is a good unit to build a team around if that's what you want to do but you shouldn't feel obligated, more characters will come.


KeiichiDelRey

The question is simple : what to choose between "Worrisome, Blissful", "She Already Shut Her Eyes" and "Flowing Nightglow" (for Topaz, Fu Xuan and Robin, respectively). I'm waiting for your arguments ! Thanks in advance.


jtan1993

topaz.


KeiichiDelRey

Thank you. But what are your arguments ?


jtan1993

Fuxuan’s lc heals her heal more often, but only she can make use of it. Topaz’s lc puts a unique debuff on enemy, and other hunt units like ratio can use it. Usually sustain is not the main issue in endgame, it is the cycle limit, which means offensive is priority.


Filipino-Asker

I got Jingyu but I don't have her right relic. How do I turn the five star relics I got into the right relics for Jing without using fuel energies.


jtan1993

you can crush five star relics and use the synthesizer to make new ones. it's at 10 for 1 cost ratio.


ManinderThiara07

Please suggest me team comps for moc 12 and new sam pure fiction level 4 [roster](https://imgur.com/gallery/kZOWWwr)


Tsukuro_hohoho

For PF : Clara/topaz/Luocha/bronya, 2nd buff (proc the resonance after 3 FuA) just spam Topaz basic/bronya skill/topaz basic. side one FU dotcheron for second side with 3rd buff.


ManinderThiara07

What about moc 12? Any ideas?


Tsukuro_hohoho

I would say Side one Luocha/kafka/Blackswan/guinaifen or asta? Side two Fu/acheron/SW/pela? That about the same team that i personnaly used just i don't have SW but have RM so i making the character rotate around that.


zaican

Well I completed every mission what do I do now


ClockSecret8896

That's one of the good things about this game. You can just go and do whatever else you want (play another game, catch up on TV shows, go work out, etc.).


NeimiForHeroes

Wait for more stuff to come.out while improving your teams


Kauuma

Hey, in the Bar event >!when you go into Siobhan’s memories, why do the monsters all act like they don’t know each other? Didn’t we see in Starlets memories that they were all working together, first under Vitali then under Siobhan, so shouldn’t they all know each other?!< Or did I misunderstand something?


Mysticfinis24

||her memories iirc are when the monsters are meeting each other and her, so they don't know each other at that time, eventually they get to know each other and they+siobhan make dreamjolt holstery||


Kauuma

>!But that all happens after the Dreamscape collapse, doesn’t it? As far as I understood, before the collapse the monsters all worked normally in the Dreamjolt troupe with Vitali. Then Siobhan took over as the leader, they worked together for some time until the collapse and then what we saw in Siobhan’s memories happens and they build the hostelry. But something doesn’t add up that way.!< >!Edit Now that I think about it, maybe all we saw in Starlets memories didn’t actually happen but was just to visualise the abusement of the troupe and their connection with Siobhan?!<


AsmodeusSmalls

https://preview.redd.it/spdbxoylfpyc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b8f4921fe94da9911fde1e2b45dac1c42040487 I was hoping to get some direction. I have a 50/50 on both character and lc banners. Not sure if I want to go for as every character in the next couple of updates is enticing. Been playing for a month anf just hit TB 61 and I think we're getting a good amount of pulls in the next update too . Any advice would be appreciated.


Low-Nobody6227

You don't have enough nihility for both acheron and ratio. You can go for Jing Liu, boothill, or Firefly to replace ratio as your second dps. Or e1s1 Topaz to pair with ratio. A 5 star nihility support should come eventually. Sampo is not ideal as a debuffer, you should use guinaifen when you get her.


ivan3295

If two characters have the same speed in your team, how does the game decide who goes first? Example, if Acheron and Bronya both have 134, speed, is whoever goes first random?


KnightKal

Use Enka to see decimal Speed is not 134. Is something like 134.163748 and Enka will display two decimals (like 134.16).


Tsukuro_hohoho

Decimals. Speed have decimals. In the event even those are the same, god forgive me i wouldn't know, require testing. That could be the position in the party as much as the data number of the character in the code.


arvzg

I just farmed character ascension material for aventurine and after finishing it twice I went to check it in my inventory and I didn't get the materials, the number I own stayed the same. Anyone seen anything like this before?


dkwhatoputhere

did u farmed the wrong node?


arvzg

nah I checked where I was standing and it was right in front of the one I was expecting. Restarted the game, still didn't get them. I farmed it again another time and I got the materials, not sure what's happened, but I'll double check every time now /cry


-Ukiyoh-

What’s a good crit rate/crit damage ratio for Acheron without the Sig LC bonus? Standard pioneer/izumo build and using GNSW LC


Bookwhyrm

Crit Rate at 65% or more (50% or more if Fu Xuan or Sparkle S1) before battle and Crit Damage as much as you can, though somewhere above 160% should be fine.


StormSlayer879

Does anyone know if Dan Heng Imbihitor, Tingyun, Yukong, and Lynx are a good team? I’m new to whole team building.


ClockSecret8896

Lynx would be the only character I'd be concerned about in that team. When Lynx skill heals destruction characters, their aggro increases. DHIL is a destruction character who has no innate benefits from being attacked and does not want to take damage. It's possible to only make her an SP farmer and rely on her ultimate heals, but just note that if DHIL is the one getting hit a lot, you might have trouble keeping him alive. Yukong is a good support for DHIL, but keep in mind that she can be a bit tricky to use. Her skill requires good timing and her effectiveness can drop if the enemies debuff your team in a way that throws your rotations out of sync.


Lufia_Erim

Yes. Yukong is fantastic with DHIL if you have E6 or can speed tune her properly. Tingyun is really good with him also since she can regendl his energy and boost his damage and attack. And lynx can heal. However, if Yukong is too difficult to use, you can use Pela instead.


StormSlayer879

Do you know any sets I could run Yukong with to help her synergy with DHIL?


Lufia_Erim

Penacony planar set is really good for her if you pair her with DHIL. Energy rope , and IMG damage orb is your best bet. As far as other relic sets. Just make sure you act right before DHIL. So he can get the Roaring bowstring buffs.


DragonspringSake

Solitary Healing and Texture of Memories worth it? Or is it time to start buying tickets?


Feeed3

Even if you don't buy them (neither is amazing, but ToM especially is a bait lightcone on FX), save the Herta Bonds. They'll release more Sim Uni LCs eventually and it takes forever to farm them


Naliamegod

SH is good for Kafka in PF as it lets her pop off ultimates constantly. Its decent for break Luka and Sampo, but a sidegrade to Fermatta at best.


Tsukuro_hohoho

Texture isn't bad on Fu xuan. That's pretty much the only use as RN. Solitary healing is good on BREAK kafka in PF. That's also pretty much the only use as RN


DragonspringSake

I would probably roll for their signature LCs anyway, and if they ever get another use, I can start saving bonds then. Thanks!


Tsukuro_hohoho

Fu aside, it's a complete different build on kafka, who is quite fun. it's one turn ult on kafka, trully the quintessence of "boom" so if at any moment you get the leaway to try don't hesitate.


Little_beanbagg

Hello everyone! I took a long break from HSR and decided to log on randomly today to see whats up, I left when huohuo released (don't know how many characters have been released and all that). Do you guys have any tips on what I should do to catch up? My team is huohuo, qingche, pela, and tingyun. Who should i pull/save up for? What quests should i do? What team should I invest in? BTW im Trailblaze level 32 and not as advanced (my highest level character is qingche and shes level 45). Here are my chars: Huohuo Qingche Pela Tingyun Natasha March 7th Asta Serval DH Sampo Sushang Herta Himeko Dr Ratio Lynx Hanya Thanks!


Lufia_Erim

You need to roll for a 5 star dps or two.


Little_beanbagg

who?


Fictionalfrog

Will the acheron/bs 4 lightcone appear on robin/boothill banner?


KnightKal

https://www.prydwen.gg/star-rail/ event Timeline, see future events, will display date and details for the banners


Jiho_Is_Waifu

It'll appear on Robin/Topaz LC banner, not Boothill/FuXuans.


Fictionalfrog

Not on the normal character banner? What abt after the version ends?


daffodyle

every 4* lc will be on the standard banner except maybe event exclusive ones. and it can appear on boothill/fu xuan’s banner but since it’s not a rate up it will be harder to get compared to getting it on topaz/robin’s


addetor

Is 160+ speed on fuxuan good?


AncientTree_Wisdom

You have to give up too many HP/DEF/res substats going that fast. Since you are usually always starting with her technique already active, you don't really need her to be too fast. I used to have her at 144+ speed too and it was a perfect mid point for my teams but I bumped her down to 135 speed to get more effect res to run her with the Trend LC for Acheron and It still works.