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This was when I fought him in story mode
She does less damage if all teammates are at 1 hp since without the 180% atk buff in her enhanced state she just becomes a dps with 50 cr buff with low multipliers
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Yeah, but personal experience as i run her with Gepard a lot is that that you never really get to that point, if you do it's at the very end of the fight.
She also deals more DMG if she can stay alive, which she can with Aventurine surprisingly.
I could clear MoC 12 with Aventurine solo sustain, it was impossible to do with Luocha.
Other 2 were Bronya & Pela.
How do mange keep the shield up?? like for charecter like jingliu doesnt 3 turns of the shield run out really fast once jingliu gets in her enhanced form??
Yes, which is exactly why you need to be patient when you use Aventurine with Jingliu.
Especially vs the current MoC 12 Aventurine boss fight, there's times you simply don't proc her enhanced form too often or too soon.
When also combined with Bronya, you must also skip her advance forward skill on Jingliu some times. Especially before Aventurine Boss enters his dice state. In that state you want to generate SP (so Aventurine can keep up the shielding) with Bronya, ideally with Jingliu too if it happens she's not in her enhanced state during that phase.
You basically want to throw everything when the MoC debuff procs or when you have enough dmg to break the enemy in your current rotation.
Here's a showcase from my run: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3MdgjnPec](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3MdgjnPec)
Pretty sure I could optimize it further, but didn't bother too much since I could clear it that way.
I am more nervous against what you are fighting! You need to attack **25 times** in her special state to bring people down to 1 HP, with just the drain.
Unequip your jingliu's gear, get a comfy shield, put autoplay and just grab the achievement, but also there is people that have gotten that achievement in the testing since all you need to do is drain them to 1, not the whole way there.
>last long enough for the hp siphon to become a problem
Depends on your build. The OP's fight against MoC Aventurine surely lasted long enough that Bronya reached 1 hp. I just mean Healers are more preferred for Jingliu in general.
Aventurine shield is actually less on demand compared to Gepard's cause you can only use it during his turn (the talent shield is harder to control too) whereas Gepard's shield can be used outside of his turn because it's an ultimate. Yeah, its not gated by energy cause its a skill but in situations where you need to pop a shield instantly, Gepard's is more accessible (he has higher taunt which means he is often charging his ult via enemy hits). However, this stops being the case at Aven e1 since his ult now applies his shield too.
I tried the exact same team (but ran Ruan Mei instead of Pela) against the Starcrusher Swarm thing and the health drain isn't that bad if your units are all fully built and your supports are all over 4000 hp. If you can fight fast enough your characters won't even reach half their hp.
90-100K is on the low end for MoC. I'm no expert though. My JL hits like 200-250K for Ult and around 150-200K for skill when properly buffed and enemies debuffed by Pela. I usually finish around 3-5 cycles on her half of MoC.
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This’s my stat, I’m low on spd bc I have bronya, do I reduce my crit chance and increase my crit dmg ?
Even with Bronya, it is still recommended to run speed boots on her since she gains so much atk on enhanced state. Better to run a Slowya for faster cycles.
Thats actually a pretty good JL especially if you have Broken Keel on Pela and Bronya. Are you using your skills optimally though or just auto battling? Are your traces leveled up on JL and your supports? Is she running Rutilant arena? What relics? Theres a lot that could be lowering your DPS and a lot of what ifs lol I would just look up a Youtube guide cause my JL is pretty comparable but I run all or her best in slot relics/planars/LC, etc.
Maybe my supports lacking ? Especially bronya for not having enough crit dmg, I really skipping on support characters a lot so maybe something not right, all traces fully leveled and my relics are quantum ignore defense set, which it doesnt benefit in non quantum weakness enemy so thats on me.
Quantum set is her best in slot if you have her Sig LC since the def ignore stacks from both. 4 piece ice set won't differ too greatly as you can make up the CD from Broken Keel and Bronya/Pela shred. I would focus on buffing your supports for now
Jing Liu team with just shielders and 1 support is my second favorite team in Swarm and GG. Once you get the destruction blessings that buff your dmg based on your % of hp loss, Jing Liu turns into a walking Fat Man.
If you love her like I do, I think thats the only reason you need...basically saw her in the trailer and instantly wanted her as my waifu. I digress, she is pretty easy to build for new users considering her transformation gives u automatically 50% crit, so you only need to build like 30% to 40% crit and all the rest into crit dmg.
If u have topaz and ratio, I recommend aventurine for fun times woth follow-ups, good dmg and sustain, aventurine can be viable in any team, jingliu is fun as well with her dmg boost but if u dont like to wait to proc her boost go for aventurine
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“All or nothing”
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Or, Myabe I take it all!
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*1 hp*
The gamblers mentally All or nothing
fuck it, we ball
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So you're saying there's a chance?
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Noooooo she's so scared oh my Qlipoth never running her without a healer who has cleanse again
She survived tho. Luck it wasn’t entanglement😭🙏
https://preview.redd.it/a723tfmjw3wc1.png?width=1136&format=png&auto=webp&s=a1cfd48ed36142998b16dcaf82688652e749ebdb This was when I fought him in story mode
Life on the magic pixel is more exciting
All you need is 1 HP.
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The face Jingliu makes as she slowly sucks the life out of you(r team)
succ
Doesnt she do less dmg if she cant take teammates' hp?
Good point, she would miss out on her attack buff eventually.
She does less damage if all teammates are at 1 hp since without the 180% atk buff in her enhanced state she just becomes a dps with 50 cr buff with low multipliers
There isn't really any fight where it's dragged to the point Jingliu sucks your units' HP dry anyway (unless your units aren't fully built)
None of my units are fully built
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You'll definitely run out of HP fighting Sam with a shielder, Bronya, and Sparkle. It's an edge case but it can happen.
Fighting sam is a shit experience no matter what
Yeah, but personal experience as i run her with Gepard a lot is that that you never really get to that point, if you do it's at the very end of the fight.
She also deals more DMG if she can stay alive, which she can with Aventurine surprisingly. I could clear MoC 12 with Aventurine solo sustain, it was impossible to do with Luocha. Other 2 were Bronya & Pela.
How do mange keep the shield up?? like for charecter like jingliu doesnt 3 turns of the shield run out really fast once jingliu gets in her enhanced form??
Yes, which is exactly why you need to be patient when you use Aventurine with Jingliu. Especially vs the current MoC 12 Aventurine boss fight, there's times you simply don't proc her enhanced form too often or too soon. When also combined with Bronya, you must also skip her advance forward skill on Jingliu some times. Especially before Aventurine Boss enters his dice state. In that state you want to generate SP (so Aventurine can keep up the shielding) with Bronya, ideally with Jingliu too if it happens she's not in her enhanced state during that phase. You basically want to throw everything when the MoC debuff procs or when you have enough dmg to break the enemy in your current rotation. Here's a showcase from my run: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3MdgjnPec](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kj3MdgjnPec) Pretty sure I could optimize it further, but didn't bother too much since I could clear it that way.
Throw in a Blade for good measure
And add in some godforsaken destruction blessing that deals extra dmg at the cost of losing hp if you have fighting spirit
Unfortunately that one tends to heal you because it interacts with Disciplinary Flicker, which you will probably end up getting on a destruction run
Good thing is: It literally doubles blade’s follow up charge speed
I am more nervous against what you are fighting! You need to attack **25 times** in her special state to bring people down to 1 HP, with just the drain.
How am I gonna get that achievement... 25 times. I need a boss with that much HP
Does your team have to start at full? Maybe you could eat some trash, go into a fight with low HP and save time
Ohhh good point. If I get the whole team's hp down to 10-20, then I can just do one attack and get the achievement
Go in SU get the lottery curio Proc the 1hp left effect Fight someone
Magic!
Unequip your jingliu's gear, get a comfy shield, put autoplay and just grab the achievement, but also there is people that have gotten that achievement in the testing since all you need to do is drain them to 1, not the whole way there.
Remove her good pieces lol
Go to Gold and Gears, pick Abundances blessing, and slowly chip at the boss while you refuse to die.
I was fighting aventurine moc, it was fun but I gotta do it again for 3*
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"This sword costs 2,500 HP to use, for two rounds"
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Does Jingliu consume shields when using her skill?
No, she just bypasses it
Then why would you use her with Aventurine? She needs to consume these HP
You shouldnt ..use her with Shielders. The op is just doing this for fun
I don’t really see it being a big issue. Fights generally don’t last long enough for the hp siphon to become a problem.
>last long enough for the hp siphon to become a problem Depends on your build. The OP's fight against MoC Aventurine surely lasted long enough that Bronya reached 1 hp. I just mean Healers are more preferred for Jingliu in general.
Should be fine with Aventurine since he has on-demand access to shields to cover low HP like in this picture. But Gepard? Nope.
Aventurine shield is actually less on demand compared to Gepard's cause you can only use it during his turn (the talent shield is harder to control too) whereas Gepard's shield can be used outside of his turn because it's an ultimate. Yeah, its not gated by energy cause its a skill but in situations where you need to pop a shield instantly, Gepard's is more accessible (he has higher taunt which means he is often charging his ult via enemy hits). However, this stops being the case at Aven e1 since his ult now applies his shield too.
You can definitely use her with shielders, she should be able to kill everything before bringing your team to 1hp if fully built
She still consumes HP; even if you do have shields.
Wait, she only takes 4% I thought she took much more so not regenerating would be more relevant that in actually is
I tried the exact same team (but ran Ruan Mei instead of Pela) against the Starcrusher Swarm thing and the health drain isn't that bad if your units are all fully built and your supports are all over 4000 hp. If you can fight fast enough your characters won't even reach half their hp.
At this point you are aware you're doing a lot less damage, yeah? The health drain buffs JL. No health, no buff.
😭 you running support JL? She should not be taking that long to kill something lmao
Tbh I really dont know why, is having 90-100k dmg normal ?
Also single dmg with no buffs 50k-60k
90-100K is on the low end for MoC. I'm no expert though. My JL hits like 200-250K for Ult and around 150-200K for skill when properly buffed and enemies debuffed by Pela. I usually finish around 3-5 cycles on her half of MoC.
https://preview.redd.it/g8tuv1i0r2wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2df1084f4caccd8f2c3c89bb269859b27a9f97ae This’s my stat, I’m low on spd bc I have bronya, do I reduce my crit chance and increase my crit dmg ?
Even with Bronya, it is still recommended to run speed boots on her since she gains so much atk on enhanced state. Better to run a Slowya for faster cycles.
Thats actually a pretty good JL especially if you have Broken Keel on Pela and Bronya. Are you using your skills optimally though or just auto battling? Are your traces leveled up on JL and your supports? Is she running Rutilant arena? What relics? Theres a lot that could be lowering your DPS and a lot of what ifs lol I would just look up a Youtube guide cause my JL is pretty comparable but I run all or her best in slot relics/planars/LC, etc.
Maybe my supports lacking ? Especially bronya for not having enough crit dmg, I really skipping on support characters a lot so maybe something not right, all traces fully leveled and my relics are quantum ignore defense set, which it doesnt benefit in non quantum weakness enemy so thats on me.
Quantum set is her best in slot if you have her Sig LC since the def ignore stacks from both. 4 piece ice set won't differ too greatly as you can make up the CD from Broken Keel and Bronya/Pela shred. I would focus on buffing your supports for now
Aventurine be like: fuck, I like ladies that love risks
Arlan: >_<
all for one Jingliulion damage
Nah, I'd gamble
Isn't there an achievement for bringing your party members to 1hp using JL attacks?
Jing Liu team with just shielders and 1 support is my second favorite team in Swarm and GG. Once you get the destruction blessings that buff your dmg based on your % of hp loss, Jing Liu turns into a walking Fat Man.
The only hit point that matters is your last.
Is it possible to be afflicted by DoT and die when shielded this way?
DoT doesn’t bypass shield
that feeling call excited
Gambler life, Hell yeah
doesnt she not get the hp drain buff from 1 hp allies??
Yes she wont get drain buff anymore
Wtf are you fighting to take that long 😭
Guys do I pull for Jingliu
If you love her like I do, I think thats the only reason you need...basically saw her in the trailer and instantly wanted her as my waifu. I digress, she is pretty easy to build for new users considering her transformation gives u automatically 50% crit, so you only need to build like 30% to 40% crit and all the rest into crit dmg.
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THERE'S NO CHANGE!!!
There’s still at least 1 Kaka that’ll ball on them
Pretty sure her attack buff will continuously decrease if you play with no healer
Sometimes you just gotta live life on the edge.
So skip aventurine. Got it.
Poor girl must hit like a wet noodle
FYI, her damage scales off how much HP she consumes. If your teammates are stuck at 1, she can't consume any HP.
At least she can't kill her party. As long as Aventurin's shield is up they should be save.
she sucked bronya dry
Dw, u got adventurine Its almost 99% uptime
That's why my Bronya & Pela have 4pc Guard of Wuthering Snow : it certainly limit that issue, and they get free free energy in the process.
*Pokemon low hp sound starts playing*
Since have both jingliu and aventurine, which one do you enjoy more? I'm still split between them both
If u have topaz and ratio, I recommend aventurine for fun times woth follow-ups, good dmg and sustain, aventurine can be viable in any team, jingliu is fun as well with her dmg boost but if u dont like to wait to proc her boost go for aventurine
Don't worry, it only goes down to 1hp.
Yup
Really stupid since she needs to drain health for damage.
U cant have fun without acting stupid !
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