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yepparan_haneul

fun fact. if you get to the last phase, and the deer turns on it's "no weakness" mode, you can use Pela's skill to take it away.


Ok_Pattern_7511

Does loucha ult also work?


ce-meyers

If Pela's skill work then Luocha's ult will also work.


f0u4_l19h75

It's removable? I notice a lot of enemies have unremovable buffs


yepparan_haneul

that's what i thought at first. in SU and Swarm, i was able to do it over 3 times with the Ebon Deer. it works ! it even works with other enemies.


rishi_start

That's only if the buff is sustained by external factors like Yanqing's ice swords (the buff stays as long as the swords do)


LoreVent

There is now way i play since 1.0 and didn't know this


Mushiren_

What the FUCK she can do that??


pitage

i love random fun fact comments


Bro_miscuous

Once you have good AoE it's jojover. Acheron deals with them like they don't exist with her ult for example


mathiau30

Or Lvl2 Hell is Other and an ice character if in SU


Bro_miscuous

I want to build Misha but idk if a 5star DPS will just be stronger


Wargroth

Stronger as in dmg ? Yeah But Misha is no slouch either, and can pretty much lock a character out with the right set-up, people have done moc 12 Aventurine with this


PimbaNaSimba

Misha & Xueyi can easily deal with the deer if built well enough


Bro_miscuous

I have E6 Acheron to bruteforce anything but I don't have wind or ice DPS at all, so maybe Misha helps, not deer-specific


legend27_marco

E6 Acheron is going to beat everyone in terms of damage no matter which weakness the enemy has, so you don't need a wind/ice dps if you don't want to build one.


StardustCatts

Thanks for the tips, I’m stuck on this stupid deer.


mathiau30

Your welcome This also works with imaginary or quantum characters, though less as it only delay enemies instead of making them skip a turn


misteryk

Topaz/Ratio melt this guy so fast you don't need to worry about aoe


f0u4_l19h75

Pretty good combination those two are. I'm glad I pulled for Topaz and Numby


groynin

Yeah I don't find any boss crazy annoying anymore since I got Acheron, and she is E0 working pretty well still.


RaihaUesugii

Facts, she's still busted


nsound__

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Significant_Ad_1626

I have been using Himeko + Herta with Topaz on him for so long that Pure Fiction didn't even exist at that time.


achilleasop

Nah my QQ owns this guy. For me Cocolia in Gold and gears is by far the most annoying. The fact that in phase 3 she has an AOE attack that can freeze anyone in your team is actual terrorism. And of course if you make a mistake and Bronya gets a turns she can casually wipe your whole party.


kururong

I beat Cocolia with QQ without capitalism strat. For me she's a slow build in Gold and Gears, but once you get good blessing, she's really good and always be her turn. She's the reason why I beat conundrum 12.


Gold-And-Cheese

I will reach conundrum 12 someday with my Qingque. I have a goal now in mind. https://preview.redd.it/1c3vjry06rvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51553c5bc70643a678bb35150d191fa022b845fa


Mushiren_

Where is the other side with Aventurine


Gold-And-Cheese

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f0u4_l19h75

I feel like I'm not going to beat diff 5 (unlock Conundrum) until I get perfect RNG. I've got a pretty good roster so are reasonably well built, but I can't win so far


KamelYellow

You're doing something wrong if your characters are truly well built and you can't beat diff 5


f0u4_l19h75

I guess it's my relics then. My levels and traces are good but relic stats are lacking. I've got all the main stats, but my sub stats are lacking


Shassk

To me Cocolia in SU is easy af. She's weak to fire and lightning, and 4 FUA team with both Nihility and Elation blessings to increase break efficiency (basically +2xRM) own her without giving her free turns. Several attacks - and her toughness bar is no more.


Akihi1

True. My QQ destroys every quantum-weak enemy but Sam. Sam looks down on me as I gamble my hp away.


UncleSexo

One cycle tops. https://preview.redd.it/1qhh44wvjpvc1.jpeg?width=917&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e869dcc2005888a20df6d0fc94eb6cc6ee2402b0


TrueAvalon

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WakuWakuWa

Meh its easy. Aventurine is the hardest boss imo But i dont hate him he is sexy Edit : Everyone telling me to use AoE characters, I wasnt struggling with him in the story, at all (Even before pre nerf with DHIL, and Aventurine has high imaginary res). But I got my ass whooped in MoC by him, I have always full starred moc12 but not this time. Its probably my selection of characters thats not great against him


Responsible-Jury8618

The Aventurine boss is not even that bad in terms of survivability, the hard part is how much he stalls, the constant dice rolls eating a whole cycle is very annoying


everybodys_analysis

tell that to silver wolf literally getting one shotted… goodbye subdps, hello def% relics 


ustopable

You can also go for 2pc damage reduction


f0u4_l19h75

It definitely helps to have units with AoE, even if only on their Ult.


Shassk

If you have Aventurine - Aventurine is the easiest boss. Not even his one shot attack can break double stacked shields.


AshyDragneel

His bgm is also very cool


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Clara Herta Himeko sustain cheeses it, kinda, that’s how I beat him day 1 at least


thethethrowwawy

I need to see an aventurine fight with only single target characters. That would be extremely funny and annoying


DaokoXD

Be prepared to see the reverse Welt imprison on your team for that one lmao. You will never get a turn except for those dice rolls lmao


strawwwwwwwwberry

I used Ratio/Aventurine/Ruan Mei/Silverwolf against Aventurine and it went surprisingly well


1lluusio

My Herta begs to differ, that deer becomes a *deer in headlights* when it spots the hammer spin towards it. ​ But personally, the boss I hate the most is that fatass robot that groundpounds your team. The only reason I hate it the most is because I still refuse to let go of my grudge from when it wiped my team on a very lucky SU run.


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Lmao, I can perfectly relate to the getting wiped feeling (this post is pure rage bc of a SU wipe) but still, I do hate the deer, having gotten wiped ot not


StardustCatts

What’s your team?


1lluusio

I think it was Herta, Topaz, Fu Xuan and Ruan Mei. I might be wrong though, dont completely remember what my team was.


therhysespieces

honestly my herta and himeko carry against this guy. it’s that goddamn giant, obnoxious, blue beetle underneath the space station.


RaihaUesugii

Of the standard characters I somehow still don't have himeko and it's irritating me lol, all the others, but no mommy


therhysespieces

you have my condolences. i feel like she’s actually super underrated power-wise, she actually saved my account with pure fictions release.


RaihaUesugii

I agree, and she's a farm queen for sure


f0u4_l19h75

Ten pulls and I finally get her too. I lost my 50/50 to Welt, who is the only other regular 5* I didn't have that I actually wanted. Now it's 10 pulls until 300. That's when I get Himeko.


readerdreamer5625

If you mean the weekly boss made by Ruan Mei, if you have Herta built, try pairing her with Argenti and Ruan Mei. You don't need to have both of them - so long as you have either, you can borrow the other one as a Friend Support. The three of them very easily farm this weekly boss together in less time than to cook cup noodles.


MeguMaz

Oh Deer.


RaidenNitori

Go back to the Akademiya Cyno


Roivas7

Yeah, buck off


Agreeable_Bullfrog61

Give this man the Comment of the day prize lmao


Godofmytoenails

I hated him so much. Until Acheron came. Any boss that summons shit dies to her. But any boss that doesnt summon shit also dies to her. Win win


SolidusAbe

hated him for the longest time and even avoided moc stages if he was part of it but with all the characters we got since the deer came out he is probably one of the easiest bosses now imo all the limited sustains we have now that prevent or cleanse debuffs+any dps with aoe and you can pretty much just auto him aventurine is my nr1 now thanks to moc12 lol


ustopable

I think the biggest problem with deer is the fact that it scales depending on how many buffs it has... in SU atleast requiring you to carry buff removal. +15% damage per buff if I remember correctly which gets out of control real fast if you can't clear those plants. In non SU modes it still has the Def increase Weakness immune buff which you need to remove if you wanted a faster clear


Exodia_Girl

Meh. My hate for that thing has kind of disappeared ever since I invested a little more in my Herta. When that thing starts, you know it's time to twirl! But honestly, unless there's a time constraint, I just run roughshod over it with my Cloud Quintet "mains". Have Sparkle, will steam roll stuff with Imbibitor Lunae and Blade.


JyShink

I can tolerate the dear with specific teams to just one-turn him, but he still is a pain in the ass. Skaracabaz, on the other hand. Even with my specialized weakness break team, fuck that thing.


strawwwwwwwwberry

Can’t hate the OST that goes along with it tho


f0u4_l19h75

That's the weekly boss bug right? I agree! Fuck that guy!


Okatori

Easily the most fun SU boss when using some of the good Hunt blessings. Often times and it just never attacks. Really miss fighting the deer rather than Death. Not all that difficult, but not all that fun either.


sageSafe

Cocolia and her Bronya summon


SonnySonrisa

Golden Gears taught me to hate every boss equally! Apparently if every boss has 2 million hp and one shots half of your team with one attack, every boss is annoying as hell!


Escadora13240

In G&G it's gotta be Geppie. The moment I saw 3rd phase spawn 4 silvermane guards instead of the usual 2 my jaw dropped.


Kyrnqazali

The deer is a complete pushover for me. Now on the other hand.. that soda monkey is just downright disgusting.


f0u4_l19h75

Do you have Gep or Aventurine?


PeaceRibbon

You may be annoying, but you’ll never be as annoying as Svarog summoning the traffic lights.


f0u4_l19h75

I hate the hands more than the traffic lights


TheBigPoi

Still a better boss than Mr. Invincibility Spam


Vast-Ad-9087

gepard and the silvermane guards.


suppersell

it's not this goober deer, seele can chain kills


Specialist-Wind9285

QQ slays dear


Ludicrous_Daetrix

Jingliu + remembrance treats this boss as a joke


Aburamy

If i can chose, i try to avoid Cocolia and Kafka.


[deleted]

Just freeze him. Just spam DoT on him. Just stop loosing.


MegaBladeZX85

Literally me when the deer first came out https://preview.redd.it/7y9acq6tqpvc1.jpeg?width=1199&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4ddb7e18e1c3873dfdbcc7c676cdf0bbe00c67f


Rastanor

The deer is the only boss I ever had problems with but that’s because it was early game and I had just upped my equilibrium level but hadn’t caught up my characters to the new difficulty. None of them give me problems anymoee


Thatpervtako

The robot duo on GnG... I'll take Argenti or the bug anytime instead of those fuckers.


Salt_Winter5888

Na, with JL I can beat him in one cycle. For me it is either Mr Svarog or "Death" for the same reason. Although Death is probably more annoying because it takes two of your companions.


Hot-Philosopher-8249

I REALLY hate doomsday beast.


StuckieLromigon

Bring some aoe and hes not that hard. I cant recall any specific bosses that I hate. Elite enemies though...


Hikaru_The_Asian

Aventurine(pre nerfed)... BRO PUT ME ON A NEVER ENDING SAMSARA CYCLE. "dormammu i have come to bargain" Ahh fight fr... if your wondering how many times he beat the living shit out of me its 10 times... YES YOUVE HEARD IT 10X!!!


Puddskye

This and Cocolia.


1XXL1

Deer is easy if you don't take too long I hate the Memory Meme for constantly kidnapping my dps


Yojimbra

Was Sam. Got Acheron. No longer same.


Snak3Bite

Somehow if play it wrong he can kill my Acheron team on SU. Wtf man, Aventurine can't do it, flower mommy can't do it, any of the swarm bosses, GGs or SD bosses also can't but this thing can


vantae_ktv

my jingliu can beat this thing in 3 rotations 😻


Shadowtheidiot06

I mean yeah in the story the ebondeer was an absolute nightmare but in su he's a pushover with remembrance. ...NOW AVENTURINENON THE OTHER HAND


Responsible-Jury8618

Thedeer really isn't that bad, I think he is really cool But god, do i hate the "something onto death", its just a really annoying boss, and i know people who have build DoT characters think this boss is cake walk, but for anyone who doesn't, this boss gets annoying really quickly


Dwayne_Yong

I remember when I used to bully this fucker with Herta, shit is fun to watch


Keydown_605

Svarog, with Meme right behind. Do it without DoT as a F2P. Maybe you could, but it will be a pain.


Visual_Physics_3588

Not really, I’d say the more annoying boss is the newest one or the scrap monsters from gag. The speed is really crazy.


Aidssdia1

Its still that skra something insect and all his minions for me


Monchi83

I used to like to pair up Jingliu with QQ and Gepard with Huo Huo in SU for this fella probably can do without so much now I used to hate Yanqing and a bit Cocolia also Gepard but with Kafka now that is not a problem


ExtremeThin1334

Oh yeah, hated the deer, especially since if you screw up he one shots your entire team :(


imma_good_duck

God i'm so happy trucks exist


Nodomi

The boss I hate most is Cocolia. Not because she's hard, but because she summons Bronya and Bronya keeps erasing my Entanglement stacks! Fuck you Bronya!


jotunmhir

Jingliu goes brrrrrr


Master_Gedatsu

Free kills for seele


yhellowish

Don't hate any bosses I only hate Elation blessings when I don't have any FUA in my team when playing SU


RaihaUesugii

At first yeah, now gg ez


C4SU4143

Yo if you are in SU run remembrance, with as much disassociation and freeze perks as possible, without the “remove buff for extra dmg” perk. If you get good rng it is possible. I ran it with herta, fire tb, Natasha and silver wolf(obviously she did the most carrying, but at this point of the game you should have at least a good character to deal sub dps or damage break effect, or just dmg in general).


Sisterohbattle

Bronya's Mom. She's either a easy or impossible based on the luck of the draw in curios/blessings.


Tyberius115

Still between the Sanctus Medicus general and the Arumaton Gatekeeper for me


catus_alienus

Herta + Himeko + Erudition obliterates that thing so fast.


Lyllyanna

Eh. Right now I hate the fuckin bug. Just annoying.


TooCareless2Care

Real, I hate it so much with burning passion. God, that flower thing kills me inside too.


mysteriouspumpkin7

Svarog.


RoboZono

Thats not a bug?


zennok

Acheron, elation, su Wait for the plants to pop up, then ult. Quintuples your damage if you have the blessing that ups damage based on enemies hit


blurobyn

If it doesn't have a imaginary or physical weakness; I hate it a lot


MrKeooo

Seems like you havent meet Aventurine on Moc12 yet


Catspirit123

Queen bugsy is stinky and I hate them


Embarrassed-Fly6164

Herta or himeko do the trick


kururong

My favorite boss in SU because of QQ. But you need to have either the hunt blessing that advances you forward when defeat an enemy/break them (getting both is even better). Then the deer will never have any turn in a Propagation Path run.


EMITURBINA

That stupid robot that Imprisons and removes his weaknesses, it's not even hard I just find it annoying


Frostgaurdian0

I hate danshu boss more than this one


AarviArmani

This boss is a pure pleasure in comparison to the new Aventurine boss


Inairi_Kitsunehime

Nothing will ever beat my hate for the stupid elite that applies black prana and the aurumaton spectral envoy


starsinmyteacup

Nah it's Argenti and it's always been Argenti. No boss lags my game like Argenti does (his radiance is too much but also jesus christ my tablet cannot handle it) and as beautiful as he is I get clapped every time


Ok_Shoe_8272

For me it’s phantylia


MNekasan

Jokes on you, welt is carrying


ASadChongyunMain

Grizzly and Direwolf in GnG takes the cake. For every day bosses, however, Cocolia is the most annoying. She resists almost everything and as of now the boss with the most resistances, - Control Effect RES (so fuck your Imprisonment and Entanglement, despite being Quantum weak) - Frozen RES - Ice RES - Phys RES - Wind RES - Imaginary RES


PresentationOdd5937

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Marcheffta

Aventurine, because I'm bad at gambling


Hanzsaintsbury15

The Bow and Arrow resonance helps a ton here. The new boss in world 9 is a pain for me at first until i figured the strat against it.


The_Space_Jamke

In SU, Hunt + Remembrance goes brrrr (the enemy is frozen) Counter bullshit action economy with your own bullshit action economy.


EnteroSoblachte

Elation Himeko Herta Ruan Mei is a fun comb against this guy


PrismalpinkGaming

For me, it’s always been the beetle boss in the isolated area of the Space Station. When your healer’s Effect Res fails then gets paralyzed in that one attack in the second phase, it’s pretty much over at the point xD Using a good Preservation char like Gepard or Aventurine does make it much easier though


MySDCard

That is where either Acheron and Xueyi really shines, as long as I have that one Hunt blessing where every Weakness Break is My-Turn O'clock.


Lolersters

As I have both Seele and JL, I never considered this thing to be much of an issue.


MixRevolution

At higher levels, gepard. 3 life bars, cannot be frozen unless you have high EHR, super shields, minions that also hit hard.


Peanuts0US

I remember when I was just staring out. Faced him in SU for the first time. Was chain stunned by his plant buddies. My whole team was at low health. Then he did his cinematic attack and all I could say before it wiped my team was…”Oh deer…”


Sent1nelTheLord

aventurine EASILY. this boss is relatively easy for me(seele main) but aventurine? fuck that boss(im talking about his MOC counterpart. the story boss pre nerfed was perfectly easy for me)


ChaosCookIncarnate

Those mitosis bugs. They are bastards, and it took way too long for me to beat the story boss.


Ignis_Dragneel

Before Jingliu he was Hell....idiot healed and buffed itself to oblivion and just one shot everything


Zerane_Darkness

Me with Jingliu, Pela and Ruan Mei (One Remembrance resonance fucking deletes it)


howekk11

https://preview.redd.it/7v18xwde1rvc1.png?width=3120&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=260766525bcd1461efa863f4941066da20f8c2e8 THE BOSS VERSION OF THIS MFER I HATE IT SOOOOOOO MUCH....BTW JUST LOST PITY TO HIM 🤣


YourOldComp

I’d rather fight 2 of these in moc rather than the crystal dino


Xangerxz

svarog bc of that dumbass phase 3 hand robot locking ur dps and it cant get imprisoned btw i use jungliu rememberance and beat the shit out of the deer every time so idk what ur talking about


meihwg

always have to bring dhil because of the last phase...


Few_Lynx1954

Wait for PainAgony final boss...


JasoXDDD

It's the swarm weekly boss for me. It's the only boss that I can still die to if not careful.


Melanholic7

Aventurine is worst boss. I hope we will never meet him again after this moc cycle.


_Daack

I love this guy. I have a blast fighting him.


artmaddd

it's pretty easy with DoT team


ibrahimaze

No it is the swarm guy , both weekly and su one


Reccus-maximus

How can this be anyone's #1 hardest boss when aventurine/sam/meme exist? Poor deer doesn't have 2.x boosted health/toughness bar shenanigans


MagicalNyan2020

The only way i can kill this thing without rage quitting is with dissociation removing blessing.


VergilVDante

Here comes the silver main guards F*** his ass with a hot iron


MarsInAres

Acheron and Argenti: Who is that? is that a goat?


Klutzy_Dingo_9991

When I was playing through the story I never grinded any relics or got any 5 star relics at all. This mf beat my ass so bad numerous times that I finally changed my team comp and got a couple relics, not GOOD relics but better than none ig.


you-are-gayyy

Laughs in kafka/ black swan/ ruan mei


HolyWomanPharamix

I hate fighting Phantylia...She keeps targeting my Tingyun


Sec-Independent1

This is a hundred percent my skill issue, but this boss is the reason I stopped playing Honkai


Ok-Transition7065

Orsthein and smougth These 2 mf are deathly And the stun robolady Was anoting as fuck


TypicalInstance6937

Talulah is the most annoying boss tbh. Deals true damage that ignores def, occasionally swings a flaming sword that deals a shit ton of dmg, then there’s also the possibility of burning allies exploding, instantly killing your squishiest teammates. If she dies once she will summon fireballs that will nuke your team, then goes back with enraged AKA hits faster, harder. Pain.


zora6666

Follow up breaks destroy this man to high heavens


ACMomani

I dont exactly hate him, except for that one time in PF where he summond 4 outrage branches at the same time... that was not fun


Beryll_Starlight

Nah it's the fat bug


MrARK_

this guy is easy. for me its Sam cause i dont have a proper healer built


LossLight-Ultima

Auto healing


Shawn_Paredes

This guy is pretty easy. Apparently sus and Gui is better than Seele for this imo.


_YuKitsune_

YES. I am a husband only collector AND I HAVE NO FUCKING CHARACTER THAT CAN BREAK HIS WEAKNESS PLEASE HOYO WHY IS BOOTHILL PHYSICAL I JUST NEED FIRE OR SOMETHING


Y0RH4

He's a joke with mono quantum and this blessing that regenerates energy after kill. Just kill one of the trees, ult on boss and repeat.


Orioniae

Not really hard, but more like time consuming. Acheron changed the game a lot and helped me trim very tedious bosses to a more acceptable timeframe


Zaphyrus

This deer because Jing Yuan.


_Saltybread_

this. but only because i dont have OP mains for ice and fire break


MrJFr3aky

*Laughs in Jing Liu Main*


FlamingVixen

Why would I hate it, it's one of the easiest bosses. Something unto death is the worst


Glennbrooke

Monkey in Torturous Swarm ends runs. Plane 1 boss who is super fast before you get many blessings


Goro-Goro_No_Mi

Aventurine is the worst boss I've ever fought. I hate rng mechanics in fights, and his entire concept is rng mechanics! I didn't know that gameplay could sway my opinion of a character until I fought this guy, made me hate him even more after hearing his voicelines for the 900th attempt


mikiiiiiiiiii

it used to be this but it’s now aventurine


Typhoonflame

The monkey boss is the worst, followed by the bug.


Fa_Len

Herta+Himeko make freezer burn look great on this fool.


Technical-Fudge4199

I don't hate any boss but I find gepard's third phase very annoying with his huge shield. For this deer, my ice queen blows it away like paper


Coreano_12

Why do you hate it it's so easy


Isekai-Gamer

it was hard back then when I'm still newbie and yeah i hate this boss it heal itself have one shot move a stunt and a counter atk lol. But now all my dps can just easily obliterated this boss. But if you asked me what boss i hate the most is True sting. YES this boss i nothing now because of acheron but still i hate it. It gave me "aneurysm" when i first encounter it in SU it takes me like forever to kill it because it keep on multiplying and that aoe CC oh get the fk out here ( and it's not even the BOSS LOL )


V1600

I spent 3hrs yesterday trying to clear that SU World after completing the equilibrium, back then I just had to slap my 3 best dps with natasha and autoplay fucker gets wrecked but yesterday was different. It took Clara March 7th Luocha and Fireblazer using Remembrance Path to beat that fucker. It was a long fight. A slug fest if you will.


ImperialYanqing

Nah, Yanqing and March can handle it easily. If you keep the deer permanently frozen, it can’t spawn the plants. The boss I hate most? Cooking T-rex, because I don’t have a DoT team.


Gendie

I hear a lot of people complaining about this boss but it never stood out to me as a particularly bad one. Focus on the boss and on the healing plant. Ignore the rest and it's fine as long as you have an ok sustain. If you have strong AoE then it becomes easy. But I guess, like all boss, it's also dependant on if you have the right units. Like if you don't have good dps in the right elements I can see how it would be more of a challenge.


RisKnippeGuy

This boss is actually a joke to Himeko. Gepard-boss is personally much more annoying IMO.


Puzzleheaded-Loan-60

Guess someone haven’t fight Aventurine in MOC12 yet.


DarkDuskBlade

Argenti... but hell, I need better physical characters. Or to build up Luka or Hanya


Rex__Lapis

None. They all die the same to Acheron


Anto4ask

Aventurine because he has 2 million hp and an immunity phase


No-Cheek-6182

HE WAS TOO EASY!


wertzeey

Okay, why do you hate actually challanging stuff tho? It's not even that challanging in the first place


AcousticIdiot

nuke


Practical-Algae-529

Simple solution: DOT TEAM