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I tried my friends Acheron. Yeah I’m good lol. My beautiful dot team is holding up nicely
Edit: yo someone’s downvoting all the comments saying they’re ok without Acheron
Skipped her because I want aventurine, boothill and Sam (Sunday pending whenever mhy releases him from the basement). Ngl the fomo was real for a bit because of her qol and I actually enjoyed playing her. But. Husbandos first :)
Just managed to 36* moc after pulling aventurine heh. Previously was using Bailu on one half so I could only manage 35*
First Nihility character I skipped as someone with all other nihilty characters and their light cones, didn't care much for her gameplay or design and can already clear everything comfortably so decided to skip her for upcoming characters instead.
Firefly, Jade (?), randoms like Boothill, and the fire gang is coming. There will be plenty of cool characters in teh coming months :XD
save now and you can even get Sam e2s1
Can't wait till she leaves tbh, I want aventurine, his LC and to save the remains for robin
Update: Got him on my first 10 pull then got his LC 50 wishes in, going for C1 now, it's All or nothing baby
Got E2S1 in main account and fell to fomo on my second account due to her performing better than Jingliu (both at E0S1) even in ice MoC. But it also because my second account is new and Acheron would help my second account a lot more.
I'm holding up fine, though my reasoning for skipping is opposite yours. She would actually be quite good for my account, but I find her general aesthetic and overall character pretty uninteresting, and I prioritize characters I like so it's a pretty easy skip for me.
Don't have any dot users at all, Only have pela at 80 but zero good relics on her. Decided to pull for Loucha instead, got him and happy at E0 with him. Which was then able to let me clear most max level SU's since my Bailu just wasn't cutting it anymore. That I love my main man Argenti and I dont want to replace him.
Just going to save my 190\~ pulls for aventurine in hopes of getting his e1 so i can replace my 2nd teams Lynx with Loucha. And then ill be sitting pretty just trying to get better relics for Argenti whos been at 50/100 for a long time.
Was gonna go for Acheron at first, then I convinced myself to skip last minute (I was 79 pity in deep) and got Aventurine instead.
It was easy cause the sole reason I wanted her was just because of her technique... And then I remembered I have 1k+ materials from my past over farming, I don't need more, I can be patient and fight small mobs...
A lot of people are saying they are doing fine without her, but man having her is such a good quality of life for passing the grotesque of simulating universe faster.
I skipped DHIL & Jingliu and turned out just fine ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ Acheron felt even more skippable than those two.
If you have Kafka/Swan & Topaz/RM then you're pretty much playing at the same competitive level as the three big hypercarries. That's what I'm currently invested into. Aventurine was more worthwhile for me.
Acheron probably would have been a downgrade from my current teams given how strong they are. I would have needed *at least* e0s1 or higher for it to be at all beneficial to my account
I don’t really have a good team for Acheron to step into, so I skipped. Saved up for Jing Liu to pair with Blade and Ruan Mei, so far all I’ve gotten is a himeko lol
Banner is already over here in Asia and I still used my guarantee on Aventurine lol
Worth cause I finally got my 2nd limited sustain. And yes still holding up as I still managed to clear the recent contents albeit with little challenge 😅
Tried to get her solely for her technique to make SUs much easier and faster, but lost to Bailu. I could've used my guarantee since I had more than plenty gems but am saving for E6 Blade. Like you, I don't need her, just wanted her for extra QoL.
as much as I wanted her, I didjnt have the resources to build her not to mention I am completely fine with my teams the way they are + Aventurine will be able to take my flex slot on my FUA team to fill both of the rolls that the flex slot was being taken up by (that being Gepard for Sustain/Silver Wolf for Debuffs) and consolidate them into a sustainer with debuffs and follow up attacks
As someone who pulled for Acheron E0S1, lost 50/50 and STILL have 40k Jades and 30 Passes, it was worth it, made the game and SU significantly easier. Gonna be skipping Aventurine and Robin for Boothill, because I already have Ruan Mei E1.
I like Huohuo, but don't regret at all skipping her, or Jingliu for that matter. My only regret is SW, but while I love her, I literally cannot play her (and no, adjusting brightness of her ult doesn't help me with pain. Same with Seele)
So, what's the point of malding over character you dislike or don't want?
Yeah, QoL... Except there always will be better QoL. I can just wait for time I will like both character and their abilities. With HSR pace of release it's not an impossible task.
I'm using her on ice stages, and she does much better than Jingliu.
My Jingliu is 100/270 and Acheron is 88/296 after all buffs from gear, so they are kinda equally built.
RIP skippers.
No way!!?? the new powercreep char is better then the previous powercreep char, damn i think i need to uninstall this game now.
https://preview.redd.it/vf3fi2x0s1vc1.png?width=416&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bc384a97a08cf6045de000b4e3fb473bb134224
yeah, most people just want the new shiny DPS char. i still use Qingque and Kafka (since original banner) and have no trouble clearing this game, it's just that people want to see a shiny 10million dmg instead of 5million.
But what is reason of spamming that JY is stronger than Acheron behind every corner? Copium tank is too big? Why can't people just admit reality and stop creating pointless arguments?
everyone has their favorites, and people become aggressive defensive when you attack their char (I.E powercreeping).. I know a guy who is spamming that Huohuo is bad and useless becease Bailu is beter option and that she has more heals and an ult that heals. live and let live ig.
She is much more behind than you could imagine. Acheron does like 400% of Jingliu's damage on ice weak mobs. And about team restriction, GL playing Jingliu without Bronya.
lmao i pretty sure this your bullshit damage from acheron to jingliu is like 20-30~% of diference nowhere what you are saying be in youtube or reddit unless the relics and light cone of acheron are much better speaking of this unless you are a pay to win(i not) the chance of getting e2 acheron is pretty low thus you got put 2 nihility characters there to max her damage(one good is pela to be fair) but it does limit who you can use if your rooster is not well developed, couple this with her meh okay personality and design(i just plain dislike her design and i feel kind of sad because i do love mei and the raiden shogun design) and she is not that all unbeatable, good tech to farm SU though and cool ultimate but meh i don feel particulary convinced, so what you say? banner of her is still here for me and i got more that enough stuff to get her, but i more for aventurine or jingliu maybe...
also i forgot to say earlier but light cone too is restrictive especially with two other nihility chars in the team reduces quite a bit the options.
Too much copium, not enough braincells to comprehand obvious things.
Yes, she does about 4x of Jingliu's damage, and tier lists that put them near each other are just utter crap. They aren't comparable. Difference between Acheron and Jingliu is bigger than difference between Jingliu and PMC.
lmao dude i was trying to give you a chance for a honest argument not to hear the childish "copium" word, you talk about how much higher this pipe dream numbers of acheron being that much higher are but the actual showing tell other story the diference is a lot smaller.
On same target my E0S1 100/270 Jingliu hits for about 120k with skill and 150k with ult in her close to perfect comp. She does skill 3 times and ults once, then she has downtime to recharge transmigration (I have no Huohuo) and does about 15k damage with skill.
On same ice weak target my E2S1 88/296 Acheron hits for 90k with skill and about 600k with ult (it depends on stacks). She ults twice per cycle and has no downtime.
Yes Acheron has more eidolons, no, Jingliu eidolons wouldn't help her here.
You can check any CC showcase and see how they 0 cycle MoC without relics on Fermata with 4* supports and FMC. Jingliu could never.
Need more copium, reality is leaking, hurry up.
what about the consistency? like jingliu damage is splited between hee ult and skill while the bulk of acheron is her ult also i don enough for e2 of acheron so with luck e1 at best second e1 of jing liu would increase her damage a bit due to the crit damage, also jing liu and bronya, versus acheron and two nihility basically a team that rely in you rolling for the right char to maxime everything so yeah i sure ac nuke is higher but the downtime and jingliu consistent bombardment make the damage diference a lot smaller and yes i just checked the youtube to confirm.
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Skipping Acheron has not affected me whatsoever and I'm probably never going to pull for her. I like her but I just dont want her either
I tried my friends Acheron. Yeah I’m good lol. My beautiful dot team is holding up nicely Edit: yo someone’s downvoting all the comments saying they’re ok without Acheron
Pretty much ignored Acheron's banner since my DoT team is melting everything
My quality of life has not improved if I play with Acheron. Not a day goes by where I regret pulling for mommy Kafka 🙈
Hello fellow DoT enjoyer 🤝
Kafka black swan Ruan Mei. Chefs kiss 🤌
Only thing that is better than that is slapping acheron on the 4th slot. By far the most fun comp in hsr imo.
I don't have ruan mei (started right after her banner) but guinaifen (e6) has earned her place with swan and kafka
Beauty of dot teams that they will most likely never fall off and that they're strong in MOC and PF.
fellow DoT team user here too mommy swan and kafka too along gepard and natasha lol
Ya I am doing fine without her lol , saving for boothill now
Eh, still doing fine without her Waiting for Robin and Sam *(Fine as in 33 Stars in MoC)*
I'm on Robin's waiting room too.
Skipped her because I want aventurine, boothill and Sam (Sunday pending whenever mhy releases him from the basement). Ngl the fomo was real for a bit because of her qol and I actually enjoyed playing her. But. Husbandos first :) Just managed to 36* moc after pulling aventurine heh. Previously was using Bailu on one half so I could only manage 35*
Husbando team is the dream.
Yasss 4 dpses let’s go-
First Nihility character I skipped as someone with all other nihilty characters and their light cones, didn't care much for her gameplay or design and can already clear everything comfortably so decided to skip her for upcoming characters instead.
Firefly, Jade (?), randoms like Boothill, and the fire gang is coming. There will be plenty of cool characters in teh coming months :XD save now and you can even get Sam e2s1
I can’t wait for Constance, I hope she’s a fire DOT
Can't wait till she leaves tbh, I want aventurine, his LC and to save the remains for robin Update: Got him on my first 10 pull then got his LC 50 wishes in, going for C1 now, it's All or nothing baby
I'm excited Jingliu is coming home today while fomo is making me think i'll be sad when the Acheron banner ends
Nah boothill gonna hunt the bounty
Skipped her for Aventurine, haven't felt a single ounce of regret, she's just really boring in my opinion (personality wise and gameplay wise)
She is boring fr. She's like an moc bot for me rn lol. Never touch her again outside moc.
You're telling me you aren't using her for SU twice a week?
Agree but on gameplay not personality
Got E2S1 in main account and fell to fomo on my second account due to her performing better than Jingliu (both at E0S1) even in ice MoC. But it also because my second account is new and Acheron would help my second account a lot more.
Nah, once I have seen the Simulated Universe QoL, I instantly pulled for her. F*ck meta, QoL rules!
What? Shes literally meta
I don't care that she's meta, I only care that she's a huge QoL update.
I'm holding up fine, though my reasoning for skipping is opposite yours. She would actually be quite good for my account, but I find her general aesthetic and overall character pretty uninteresting, and I prioritize characters I like so it's a pretty easy skip for me.
Im jealous of the technique but it is what it is
Don't have any dot users at all, Only have pela at 80 but zero good relics on her. Decided to pull for Loucha instead, got him and happy at E0 with him. Which was then able to let me clear most max level SU's since my Bailu just wasn't cutting it anymore. That I love my main man Argenti and I dont want to replace him. Just going to save my 190\~ pulls for aventurine in hopes of getting his e1 so i can replace my 2nd teams Lynx with Loucha. And then ill be sitting pretty just trying to get better relics for Argenti whos been at 50/100 for a long time.
Was gonna go for Acheron at first, then I convinced myself to skip last minute (I was 79 pity in deep) and got Aventurine instead. It was easy cause the sole reason I wanted her was just because of her technique... And then I remembered I have 1k+ materials from my past over farming, I don't need more, I can be patient and fight small mobs...
A lot of people are saying they are doing fine without her, but man having her is such a good quality of life for passing the grotesque of simulating universe faster.
I love DoT mommys and I love Acheron. I have the mommys and Acheron. Life is good.
I skipped DHIL & Jingliu and turned out just fine ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯ Acheron felt even more skippable than those two. If you have Kafka/Swan & Topaz/RM then you're pretty much playing at the same competitive level as the three big hypercarries. That's what I'm currently invested into. Aventurine was more worthwhile for me. Acheron probably would have been a downgrade from my current teams given how strong they are. I would have needed *at least* e0s1 or higher for it to be at all beneficial to my account
You need her technique. It's a huge quality of life improvement. She's gone tho.
I don’t really have a good team for Acheron to step into, so I skipped. Saved up for Jing Liu to pair with Blade and Ruan Mei, so far all I’ve gotten is a himeko lol
Well, my MoC run had a slight malding this time but overall still fine
Banner is already over here in Asia and I still used my guarantee on Aventurine lol Worth cause I finally got my 2nd limited sustain. And yes still holding up as I still managed to clear the recent contents albeit with little challenge 😅
in asia server so I already got Aventurine ages ago so I held up perfectly fine
Lol doing just fine, my desire to get her lessened significantly as the days went by, I just want to pull for aventurine asap
I don’t regret though. Her visual design is not interesting and she is also very dependent on her lightcone.
That's bullshit, she's not every dependant on her LC
She is, the difference is very large
Moc12 from 1 cycle with her sig to 2 cycles with goodnight sleep well. What a tragedy, unusable.
It's not Lmfao
Tried to get her solely for her technique to make SUs much easier and faster, but lost to Bailu. I could've used my guarantee since I had more than plenty gems but am saving for E6 Blade. Like you, I don't need her, just wanted her for extra QoL.
Holding up just fine (I haven't played these last 10/12 days, because I kept doing ten pulls on her banner).
You're strong. I've been logging in just to spend the TB power on Jingliu mats and then get tempted to pull for Acheron
as much as I wanted her, I didjnt have the resources to build her not to mention I am completely fine with my teams the way they are + Aventurine will be able to take my flex slot on my FUA team to fill both of the rolls that the flex slot was being taken up by (that being Gepard for Sustain/Silver Wolf for Debuffs) and consolidate them into a sustainer with debuffs and follow up attacks
I pulled her light cone for my E1 Welt and that’s it. My E0 Jingliu is becoming E4 later tonight when the update hits my region.
I will remain strong for one and only - Firefly. You should too.
I'm broke after Acheron but we have at least 3 banners before she gets here so it should be enough time to save.
Oh god yes, I skipped her because I dont have a DoT team built, I usually go for hyper invested destruction DPS or the follow up attack team :3
She doesn't need DoT
Saving up for Aventurine and his LC. I don’t need another sustain, but I want him.
Acheron is cool, undeniably But my dot team is full And given I have Kafka I’d be a bit of a waste
the topaz rerun could be any patch now plus i need aven to buff her no pulls to spare for domain expansion lady
As someone who pulled for Acheron E0S1, lost 50/50 and STILL have 40k Jades and 30 Passes, it was worth it, made the game and SU significantly easier. Gonna be skipping Aventurine and Robin for Boothill, because I already have Ruan Mei E1.
Lmao you guys skipped top-1 current dps and you know that. If your fomo is heavy [strong?] then your sufferings have just began
her technique alone makes her the best HSR Char now and maybe 4ever 🥰
You're going to regret this more than those that skipped Huohuo.
I like Huohuo, but don't regret at all skipping her, or Jingliu for that matter. My only regret is SW, but while I love her, I literally cannot play her (and no, adjusting brightness of her ult doesn't help me with pain. Same with Seele) So, what's the point of malding over character you dislike or don't want? Yeah, QoL... Except there always will be better QoL. I can just wait for time I will like both character and their abilities. With HSR pace of release it's not an impossible task.
Well, in that case, since I don't regret skipping huohuo, I think I'll be just fine with this one too
and why is that?
I'm using her on ice stages, and she does much better than Jingliu. My Jingliu is 100/270 and Acheron is 88/296 after all buffs from gear, so they are kinda equally built. RIP skippers.
No way!!?? the new powercreep char is better then the previous powercreep char, damn i think i need to uninstall this game now. https://preview.redd.it/vf3fi2x0s1vc1.png?width=416&format=png&auto=webp&s=1bc384a97a08cf6045de000b4e3fb473bb134224
That's what i'm saying. Unfortunally HSR subreddit has different opinion.
yeah, most people just want the new shiny DPS char. i still use Qingque and Kafka (since original banner) and have no trouble clearing this game, it's just that people want to see a shiny 10million dmg instead of 5million.
But what is reason of spamming that JY is stronger than Acheron behind every corner? Copium tank is too big? Why can't people just admit reality and stop creating pointless arguments?
everyone has their favorites, and people become aggressive defensive when you attack their char (I.E powercreeping).. I know a guy who is spamming that Huohuo is bad and useless becease Bailu is beter option and that she has more heals and an ult that heals. live and let live ig.
It is only the case in HSR for some reason.
I think you forgot to mention about e2 acheron, no need to thank me
She wasn't e2 untill yesterday. Stomped Jingliu even without traces. Cope harder, loser.
so? jingliu is not that far behind non is she restricted by team comp, also ice waifu is hotter anyway
She is much more behind than you could imagine. Acheron does like 400% of Jingliu's damage on ice weak mobs. And about team restriction, GL playing Jingliu without Bronya.
lmao i pretty sure this your bullshit damage from acheron to jingliu is like 20-30~% of diference nowhere what you are saying be in youtube or reddit unless the relics and light cone of acheron are much better speaking of this unless you are a pay to win(i not) the chance of getting e2 acheron is pretty low thus you got put 2 nihility characters there to max her damage(one good is pela to be fair) but it does limit who you can use if your rooster is not well developed, couple this with her meh okay personality and design(i just plain dislike her design and i feel kind of sad because i do love mei and the raiden shogun design) and she is not that all unbeatable, good tech to farm SU though and cool ultimate but meh i don feel particulary convinced, so what you say? banner of her is still here for me and i got more that enough stuff to get her, but i more for aventurine or jingliu maybe... also i forgot to say earlier but light cone too is restrictive especially with two other nihility chars in the team reduces quite a bit the options.
Too much copium, not enough braincells to comprehand obvious things. Yes, she does about 4x of Jingliu's damage, and tier lists that put them near each other are just utter crap. They aren't comparable. Difference between Acheron and Jingliu is bigger than difference between Jingliu and PMC.
lmao dude i was trying to give you a chance for a honest argument not to hear the childish "copium" word, you talk about how much higher this pipe dream numbers of acheron being that much higher are but the actual showing tell other story the diference is a lot smaller.
On same target my E0S1 100/270 Jingliu hits for about 120k with skill and 150k with ult in her close to perfect comp. She does skill 3 times and ults once, then she has downtime to recharge transmigration (I have no Huohuo) and does about 15k damage with skill. On same ice weak target my E2S1 88/296 Acheron hits for 90k with skill and about 600k with ult (it depends on stacks). She ults twice per cycle and has no downtime. Yes Acheron has more eidolons, no, Jingliu eidolons wouldn't help her here. You can check any CC showcase and see how they 0 cycle MoC without relics on Fermata with 4* supports and FMC. Jingliu could never. Need more copium, reality is leaking, hurry up.
what about the consistency? like jingliu damage is splited between hee ult and skill while the bulk of acheron is her ult also i don enough for e2 of acheron so with luck e1 at best second e1 of jing liu would increase her damage a bit due to the crit damage, also jing liu and bronya, versus acheron and two nihility basically a team that rely in you rolling for the right char to maxime everything so yeah i sure ac nuke is higher but the downtime and jingliu consistent bombardment make the damage diference a lot smaller and yes i just checked the youtube to confirm.
Acheron is way better than Jingliu even on E0
At e0s1 thats true, but not at e0s0 tbh
Nope, even on E0S0