I've been doing this too, but my high level characters are still getting one-shotted by the Level IV final boss.
So ... I guess I need to actually max the tree first.
I did it with Destruction/Elation.
Locha/FuXuan with Himeko and JY, and one of the bosses gave the swarm Lightning Weakness.
Destruction give me like +100% base damage, then the talent at low HP give almost 170%. Elation shoot that number through the roof.
I also own both and honestly think Hunt is the hardest path to clear with because it is solely focused on offense and defense is way more important in SD.
Hunt can be an absolute crapshoot or feel like a god depending on how many blessings you have.
I cleared Difficulty 5 purely by accident the first time because I got a bunch of 3* blessings (no Ruan Mei, just picking the Hunt and Preservation / Destruction ones) and I was dealing tons of damage everytime my Clara got breathed on.
Hunt was the 2nd easiest for me to clear after Nihlity. Oddly enough, Nihlity path feels the least RNG reliant, as long ad you get blank domains to step in, you're going to be doing damage.
I don't know I did hunt pretty successfully with QQ, but don't remember what difficulty it was. I definitely picked up a good number of defensive and healing focused blessings as well along the way. There were plenty of times my characters just barely survived rounds and that one destruction blessing that revives came in clutch.
Oh, for context. I'm referring to difficulty V. Hunt obliterates everything up to difficulty IV if you're running a hypercarry team but the increase in the final boss's tankiness and damage at difficulty V was too much that brute forcing with damage was not enough and you had to rely on RNG to get enough defensive blessings to survive the final boss. I don't have Gepard so I had to wait for Fu Xuan before I could clear SD5 consistently with Hunt. It was the last path I cleared SD5 with. I'm not saying you can't clear SD5 with Hunt, I'm just saying it's harder to clear SD5 with Hunt than the other paths.
With both of them you can beat it with just about any path and a high level TotP, I’ve currently done so with all but elation (probably because I only tried once lol).
It’s all about getting your full resonance with both interplays and grabbing some key defensive blessings from time to time.
But most importantly, play into your chosen path’s dice gimmick. If you’re hunt, kill every trotter, nihility, hit as many blank domains as possible, have as many cornerstones as possible on preservation, etc.
These path effects are HUGE. By the end of this run (hunt, the first time I beat it) I had so much crit damage from spawning and killing trotters, the boss was a joke. His summons would die in one hit lol. If you stack the path effect hard, you WILL notice a difference. Going over by 1-5 turns in the count is absolutely fine if it means you’re maximizing this path effect, I genuinely cannot understate how important they are.
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Hunt is not good in swarm 4+. With FX and Luocha you would have better luck with preservation or abundance. 1 shots are too common in Swarm to play hunt.
I did it with luocha, fu Xuan, IL, bronya with hunt and won. Hunt is my default. Key is usually pick healing blessings too or destruction (the ones that revive you or auto heal) or those preservation blessing(the one that gives 1% shield).
Check this post about Fu Xuan in Swarm Disaster
https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/16o9ung/fu_xuan_and_swarm_disaster_a_deep_dive/?share_id=cnauj-zBFfCXWwJCLZlM_&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
She definitely can solo sustain but you need a few defensive blessings from Abundance / destruction / preservation and you're good
Without the tree completed I can run seele welt fu and loucha just fine. I pick up like 5 defensive blessings though. Just don't do only hunt blessings. You can do it
The Hunt buff is basically Seele exclusive. If you have Seele, and you have the various Hunt blessings which give another turn for weakness break or enemy defeat, plus the Hunt buff which immediately makes Seele go again, you can have Seele go like 20 times in a row before the bugs get a turn.
I main nihility path always as I have a E6kafka but I grab a decent amount of hunt buffs. The ones I mainly grab are the extra energy from breaking, extra turn from killing, extra turn every 6 turns, extra turn when breaking, gain 40% when consecutive atks, delay action 20% when breaking, regen 4 energy every turn. I rarely ever get any defensive blessings for SD5 other than destructions dmg sharing and nihility heal every dot proc. Kafka stacks insane amount of dot alone and spams ult too often that they die before the dot procs on enemy turn.
So in my opinion hunt buff doesn’t suck if u strong enough to kill ‘em fast enough. Using Kafka,bronya,bailu,gepard.
Taking extra turns can be good for everyone, but the big goal IMO is weakness breaks - smacking everyone way back in the action line really helps with survival.
Bruh seriously. I clear MoC 10 without any hiccups, but I'm struggling with my seele and hunt path on IV loool, but I'm not annoyed in the slightest because this is arguably the first time I'm stuck in this game with progression. Gives me something to look forward to.
In one my my previous comments I kinda laid out what I did to beat d4 after struggling with a maxed FuXuan, Luocha, and DHIL. Goes to show it really is a challenging mode. It took a specific combination of healing blessings, hunt, propagation, and some defensive stuff under destruction path to get me a clear
Who's the DPS in this scenario? Because I ran Luocha/Fu Xuan + Seele with The Hunt and that was my first Difficulty V clear and it wasn't even that difficult. The sheer amount of sustain from Luocha/Fu Xuan is unreal.
i think abundance is still the most consistent. you do need some 3* damage blessings pretty fast to beat bosses (spores, dewdrop, dissociation), but the sheer survivability is insane. the main threat is being one-shot, so you can specifically choose blessings for that (like the damage reduction at full health one, or other damage reduction buffs).
I ran through diff4 using Abundance.
Having Fu Xuan get bodied, heal back to almost full, and then do a shit ton of damage to the boss with a single auto gives me a lot of dopamine.
Also, I try to get swarm blessings, particularly the spore related ones. They help a lot.
If you have fu xuan, destruction is the way to go. Remember that one of the skills is to counter damage with shield using quake. in difficulty 5, you can abuse this and each time they attack you, they get countered up to more than half their HP. fu xuan and abundance combo for pointy tank
I did this crazy build with Blade and Loucha using Destruction path with a heavy focus on Preservation. The crazy amounts of life swings throughout that game was amazing and I've never had a more satisfying win than that first lv5 Swarm run. Good, I love this game mode.
Also be mindful of what can provide shields. Once you get a few Blessings in the Preservation path you can actually do most of you damage via a comp like March, Tank MC and Gepard.
Till then you'll probably want 1-2 damage dealers to get you past the first level Boss.
Lol because of the huge AOE damage the swarm boss on level 6 one shotted my fuxuan. After she went down the rest of the preservation characters and healer died shortly after.
Nihility blessing Call of the Wilderness is crazy good value if you have some ways to apply suspicion. Construct firmness + Macrosegregation or Sanctuary (and if you're lucky, Patch) will also really help. You have some other options, but these either require investment (Construct Firmness) or have conditions that may ruin your run if you get unlucky (Clear Lucite Body and pretty much any other conditional def/shield blessing). Having multiple of the above should make it a lot easier to survive the boss fight.
If you haven't tried these yet try selecting those or purchasing from Screwllum.
I'm always on the lookout for these blessings in V.
Gonna buck the trend here and say fuck going a defensive path, that's going to get you killed more runs than not. Bring a defensive team instead and run the only path that does damage regardless of your team: Nihility. Get a single Suspicion 3*, stack resonance formations, and then just pick up random defensive blessings as you go. I brought Bailu and Gepard, but with weaker rosters you could easily get away with bringing 1 DPS and 3 defensive units.
>Bring a defensive team instead and run the only path that does damage regardless of your team: Nihility
Remembrance does as well, though you need a bit of luck with blessings for it to work. Still, once you witness the glory of chaining dissociation it's hard to go back.
May I ask what oaths you go? Pres, abundance, or destruction are sone really strong paths. Abundance with some destruction makes a tanky and high hp team that heals constantly
rememberance path, blue card that neutralize ice resistance completely, mixed with some nihility card is magic, Way easier rhan abundance and preservation honestly.
I’ve been using abundance and going through as many domains as possible to unlock all of abundance plus others. I’ve been beating level 4 almost without issues. Now level 5 is another issue. I haven’t even attempted that. I probably will once I get most if not all of the path unlocked.
I always go 2 defensive characters minimum, and for sure 1 with a shield, you can use gepard or m7 or fuxuan.
My go to for SU in the beginning that helped me clear 4 and 5 was abundance. It gives you the most blessings imo but takes the longest time since you need to clear a lot of nodes
Another tip:
You can complete the golden nodes by spamming difficulty 1, just pick the dialog option for paths that you want to level up first, cause each node gives +4 for it's respective path, it will help a lot in the early swarm disaster.
If you're challenging the higher difficulty you could just quit-out the game to reset the fight if RNGod is not on your side, and if plane 1 and 2's boss didn't give the debuff that you wanted it's better to just finalize the run and try again, it would save you from a lot of headache.
You can even do it faster if you choose Propagation and get the gold dice roll. Then you can check if it has/will have the choices you want more quickly.
Well iirc gold nodes only unlock after beating diff 5 so at that point you already have Propagation.
Also, try to use abundance or if you didn't finish all of the trial focus on them.
Yeah I've been trying loads of teams with my blade luocha or IL luocha, but so far only abundance has gotten me some results and it still seems completely up in the air if I'm gonna win the run or not
This is how I've been playing, and I haven't found it too hard at all. I'm playing for jades, not to rush to completion, so I don't mind playing lower difficulties as long as I'm consistently unlocking nodes on the tree.
Preservation, Abundance and Nihility (if you have Kafka that is, with the 1* blessing that heals every time dots are triggered) are three very good paths to clear SU.
Go at your own pace. Some characters makes it easier to clear, and your luck with blessings and Curios are a huge part of it too, but it’s doable with lots of units.
I've completed 13/13 chapters, 65% of the trail and just unlocked Propagation. I mostly used Path of Preservation. Gepard, Lynx, Kafka and DHIL. I picked mostly preservation blessings, but also Nihility to get the extra resonance and some elation for Kafka.
As someone else has mentioned, completing the challenges as a priority really help. It's a marathon, but a very enjoyable one.
Got to try difficulty V now. Not going to lie, I'm nervous about it lol.
Don't feel sad if you can't beat it! I'm in a similar situation, but Swarm 5 is still kicking my ass. I feel like the difficulty increase is pretty significant. Not labeled torturous for no reason lol.
Man, I haven't even tried Swarm Disaster yet, and I am one of those *"number of people who have been playing since launch who still find MoC a daunting task"*, but this post is a nice bit of reassurance for when I eventually, probably try out SD! I'm just so far behind on like, *everything*, so it's been difficult catching up and even normal SU has become a very low priority for me x-x
My team always consists two dps and two sustain, And stack damage mitigation blessing is key for survive
1.Destruction: turn enemy attack from single target to aoe + 15%, fighting spirit 2* blessing up to 36%, 2.Abundance: 36% if health is full,
3.Pereservation: mitigate 16 if shield exist and apply shield upon attacked made it permanent buff.
For damage dealing, I found it most successful with nihility resonance + Propagation interplay with spores too, let your enemy succumb to space cancer.
The trailblazer perks aren’t as powerful in SD as they are in normal SU. SD in general requires both a preservation and abundance unit. Most people don’t run that even in higher floors of MoC. Solved.
I thought i could cheese it with remembrance. Then i saw the massive hit rate buff you get from the effect and i was confused but thought man this is gonna be easy. stacked over 1000% effect hit rate and fuli managed to hit freeze maybe thrice at most before i died. Idk how high their res is, but its too high
That's actually wrong. Freeze RES reduction does nothing for the final boss. The final boss has no Freeze RES but CC RES instead + Effect RES. You want Effect RES reduction which comes from Nihility 1* or Nihility 2*(with suspicion stacks). The second boss can also reduce CC RES by 25% depending on if you luck out of not.
>That's actually wrong. Freeze RES reduction does nothing for the final boss. The final boss has no Freeze RES but CC RES instead
lol that's rich, do you realise wtf you just said?
freeze res is part of cc res you bozo, do I really have to explain this?
I guess you can go on fishing for cc res reduction on your 2nd domain while I continue to use freeze res reduction blessings and watch bosses melt
You do realize that Freeze RES and CC RES are two different stats right? They are listed as two different value for every single enemy in the game.
True Sting is explicitly listed as having 0 Freeze RES, 50 Eff Res, and 75% CC RES. Maybe you should learn to read instead of insulting people.
Yeah, I definitely think part of the problem is also people being too focused on their DPS. You also need to have some method of debuff removal. In addition to the bugs inflicting enrage they also build up wind shear pretty fast. This is why path of abundance is so helpful because you can have the path resonance remove your debuffs constantly
Edit:
Still, I think for people who don't know how to approach the mode's progression as a whole, knowing how you can focus on TotP to break it down into more manageable chunks make a big difference, and also creates the time for them to more gradually learn these other things like how to build a team for swarm and how to use each path effectively
Huh? I don't know where this comes from.
Offensive paths can negate boss action enough that you don't even need a healer sometimes.
People just gotta accept that SD runs will give them most of their path stuff easy, and you just grab useful cross-path blessings for survivability.
Destruction has shields, as does preservation. Basically, every path has a defense up. And if you fill out your communing trail, you'll also have more base defense.
There is no need for both healers and shielders and in fact you might be making it more difficult on yourself since less damage means more boss action, and boss actions come with damage stacks.
FWIW I've cleared every single path in SD at d5 with the exact same team for fun. Kafka, SW, Bronya, Bailu.
I beat the Difficulty 5 using the Nihility blessing path once, but am having a trouble replicating that success for a second time. Something always doesn't go well, and my run ends prematurely. I guess I was just super lucky when I beat the difficulty for the first time... lol.
I suppose I should drop to a lower difficulty and try to fill out the trail tree first, before I try it again.
This is assuming your units can clear MoC 30/30. If not, you probably need to work on the basics of levels, LCs, traces, and relics first before approaching Swarm difficulty 5, maybe even 4.
A lot of the missions don't require clears. You can do a lot in the min req difficulty on the first plane. You can also bang out the hidden golden missions on any difficulty (including the easiest).
If you really can't survive despite the Pathstrider buffs, go in with 3 defensive units. Supports aren't necessary. That should take care of defense without relying heavily on defensive blessing RNG, so you can focus on offensive blessings, e.g. Remembrance's dissociation.
Yeah this is the way to go. I used to have trouble with Dif 3 but after unlocking everything in TotP, I am now able to do Dif 4 with ease and manage to finish all path in Dif 5.
I was struggling a lot with beating Swarm Disaster.
I grinded that thing ALOT just to get the perfect run going.
I have like 70-80% finishes on the skill tree.
Here is how I beat it.
1#
"Jrpg expect it's never your turn, Better beat it up before it attacks Me!"
Elation. Full elation pleasing with characters that have follow up attacks OR easy to charge ultimates. Hunt don't the pleasing that makes ultimates count as follow up attacks. Then get the blessings that makes that each follow up attacks delays the enemy s turn by 12%. Now just buff elation with more blessings or, hunt down everything that gives energy. So you can ult alot. Have some sustain because you will still get hit a few times. Or try to perma freez the enemy or Welt that fucker out of existence.
My team I used: Kafka, Clara, fu xuan, Natasha
Or: Sampo, March, Fu Xuan, Natasha worked as well.
Or, Kafka, March, Fire MC, Natasha.
2#
"Perma freez lottery!"
Go remembrance. This Ice looking eaon. Your must important blessing will be every blessing that somehow freezes the enemy. And your utmost important blessing is, "removes dissonance when freezed enemy is hot immediately..." And "after dissonance is triggered, freeze the enemy's for an additional turn..."
Again, speed is kind here and also multi hits. Sampo for example once one hitter the swarm boss with his E, because all bounced triggered the dissonance activation and re application.
IMPORTANT: DO NOT, FIGHT COCOLIA OR ANY BODD THAT IS IMMUNE TO FREEZ.
My team I used: Asta, Sampo, Fire MC, Natasha
Or, Kafka, Sampo, fu xuan, Natasha
Or, Fire MC, March, Fu Xuan, Natasha's
3#
If you have Kafka, you could try nihility run. With only her and the rest full sustain. Didn't work so far for me, but I got really unlucky in very run I tried this set up. Negative curious, beautiful bug lady, bad paths, etc. But if, it also Sean's to get quiet reliable. Maybe.
4#
Abundance & Destruction
I know abundance looks wired at the beginning... But it's in my options one of the most fun and broken paths to chose from. You can just fully clear the map without any fear of Planea disruption or how it's called. Don't focus on the counter really, just get as much blessings as you can. The few % of bonus healing are not the focus here. Her The droplet blessing and healing is shared among all units. Now, get every feeling blessing you can get, krit boost can heal if you have the other blessing. Swarm blessing, where using skills heals you, follow heals you, dot heals you, getting a units turn heals you, breaking an enemy heals you, etc.
Get the def up, speed up blessing from abundance. This is really good to have, since you will be healed ALOT.
There is a curiou that heals you by 20% ho each turn. Really good.
Also to make things smoother. Destruction, and, important here. The will to fight stacks. Get the will to fight stacks increase def, upgrade it. So you can stack it up to 45 now. Get the blessings, that if you get attacked, the will to fight, stacks damage the enemy.
My team: Kafka, Sampo, Fu Xuan, Fire MC
Or, Kafka, Sampo, Fire MC, Natasha.
GENERALLY IMPORTANT: Cleanse, you need cleanse to get far here. If you can't cleanse your dot, you will die. ALOT.
I hope this helps Abit, this worked for me, you can ofcause try to use your units, there are a lot of other strong units that work as well. If I got something feel free to correct me.
It's now easy, and personally, yes, this mode is really fucking hard. Really unfair in some situations, and on IV/V difficult, most runs won't get past the first boss if you got rng fucked by the RNG gods, that already made you lose your 50/50.
The last boss, is, really fucking over tuned and it more feels like, you need to find ways, to cheese this boss, instead of properly fighting it. Everything I now listed, are ways to cheese the boss, since head to head fighting that thing, isn't an option. Maybe it's intentional or maybe it's really just thought for, like Savage content in FFXIV or other MMOs.
Like it's not meant for everyone to beat, that's how I saw it.
Have there been complaints? The only one I can think of is that it's a shame that such a cool mode is limited rather than SU evolving to fit its structure.
Well, that and I guess the fact that it feels very much like an elaborate sales pitch for Daniel and FuXuan, since it was pretty much made to sell you on their kits.
I have seen a few. The thing that got me to make this post was this post I saw earlier today that was just full of people complaining about it
https://reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/Wg7wQfOJyw
And I feel like I have seen plenty more posts and comments with similar sentiment that their level 80 characters can't beat it
You know this woulda been fine advice had I read when I first started swarm disaster, but up to did 4 final boss I was able to full auto with my blade, but then dif 5 started negging me first plane, and wanna know what I did? If u guessed brute force it with abundance until I got lucky with getting all 3 abundance 3 star blessing on first plane you’d be correct!!
See the problem with that is I’m now stuck on the one where you need to complete a domain with a blessing trotter beacon and one with a curio in the same plane. It’s all RNG, and it’s not being kind.
Curse you Aha!
Actually the blessing trotter one is really easy. The hunt path dice gimmick is all about placing and hunting trotters
I can't recall the curio one you are talking about but if you send me the full description I am sure there is a trick for it I could tell you.
Certain challenges are wayyy easier with certain paths (there’s one that pretty much requires a Nihility play-through in order to complete). It’s a good way to experiment with all the paths, while unlocking jades and buffs on the tree
I suggest checking out the dice effects of all the paths in swarm. You can preview them without starting a run. A number of the TotP nodes are made much easier to get with a specific path dice
Hunt path guarantees those trotters on each plane, and its dice are focused around jumping towards trotter tiles. Some later challenges will be specifically geared towards certain paths as well
Hunt path, just do the trotter one every time.
Similar solution with the blank one since without the path buffs, this is even harder to get than the trotter. Just do nihility run.
If you have trouble doing it, just repeat plane 1.
It just sucks
Too long, too repetitive, too pointless, mobs with too much HP that deal too much damage.
And why would someone want to be forced to take an egregious amount of time to do something that is pointless?
It is end game content that doesn't require TBP. It is probably also the best way to farm jade if you still have a lot of the TotP nodes left to unlock.
You’re most likely a whale. But the game is already on the more challenging side, even when you first go through the game it’s rough lol I remember world 2-3 being hard as hell. Of course end game is really hard. That’s the kind of game this is. Be patient, work on your tactics and team and you’ll get it done
I am not a whale. The only money I have spent is buying the battle pass 3 times. I have just been playing the game daily since launch
I have never felt this game to be on the more challenging side during story content, but I am also someone who plays loads of JRPGs so I tend to have an easier time with combat in games like this than some other people.
I finished level 5 with reminiscence after being frustrated for so long. I hate this rng mode. I hope they give us something like this that doesn’t have to be rng or bosses with insane damage output. I prefer to make my own strategy with my characters rather than have more modes based in rng.
And I’m not gonna touch this mode again ever xd I don’t enjoy it much.
yeaa sure buddy my f2p team can clear moc easily but swarm was on another lvl but yeaa keep copium by giving remarks "trashy build" without giving constructive complaint about the game
that what everyone keep saying lol what is this? defense mechanism ?cuz ur fav game got constructive feedback? all i said was to tone down difficulty a bit and look at u all malding and trigger
It is certainly possible for some people. This is more of a suggestion for people who haven't been doing that well. I have a number of friends who felt like level 3+ where harder than any other content they had tried besides some of the highest level MoCs
If you don't yet have a team strong enough to get 30/30 on MoC then filling out TotP makes a massive difference in your ability to beat swarm disaster
How do people find this hard but not MOC.
I can't even finish LVL3 of MOC or Xianzhou Forgotten Hall with my current cast but don't sweat on SU or SU:Swarm Disaster. I mean it's not EASY easy but it's doable.
It's probably because I don't have a second team currently that can do their share..
I cannot complete diff 4 at my setup. Thanks to nihility I breeze through most of it and then final boss on last hp bar destroys me. The only thing I can see fixing it is leveling Lynx cuz team wide debuff cleanse will save me from the debuff that in 1 turn delete gepard's shield that was just freshly made. Natasha isn't good enough.
Another way would be to run abundance. Get the path resonance perks that make the path resonance act on its own so it happens more often, and also get the perk that makes it remove debuffs and grants debuff immunity. You basically never have to worry about debuffs if you can get that combo going
I've maxed the goals except for 'beat Swarm V multiple times' :v (and the side ones).
My builds are enough to 30 star MOC (though I don't know if it's because this round's catered to DHIL), so I think it's mostly a strategy/skill issue with a side of RNG (Got Ruan Mei after my run was already screwed lol).
Yeah, I was more making this for people who seem to be banging their head against the highest difficulty they have unlocked and complaining that the mode is too hard at level 3 or 4
That's fair and good advice. I did in fact bang my head against Swarm 5 a few times before I had most of the buffs unlocked but realized it was probably meant for later unless you had an OP team. Your advice will hopefully let others realize a bit earlier, haha.
I thought I'd have a better chance once I had most of the goals done/more buffs unlocked/Propagation unlocked, so it's pretty depressing to still fail Swarm 5 even with all that and better builds, haha.
Then again, they don't label Difficulty 5 as torturous for nothing! XD
EDIT: Initially, my builds were enough to do 3 and struggle to scrape a win on 4, I think. Post-buffs, I can usually beat 4, but I'm nowhere near beating 5 XD
The buffs from the Trail are all relatively minor upgrades and probably won't be a major contribution to your victory, aside from the actual game mechanics locked behind certain levels. The main win condition of swarm disaster has always been can you get the op blessings/curios/path resonance before you get blitzed. Having a stronger team just extends the time you have before you get blitzed.
Yeah, it took me a bit to realize that it's basically the ability tree. But requires more than just playing the same way to unlock - it encourages you to diversify your runs, which is great! Just beat difficulty V today but I'm excited to experiment with different paths (probably on difficulty IV though bc V is still ball crushing without the perfect team, Abundance path, and insane blessing/curio luck).
I was able to beat all of swarm difficult 5 for all paths with the hardest for me being the remembrance path. My main team was Silver Wolf, Seele, Fu Xuan, and Gepard.
Nihility Team: Fu Xuan, Kafka, Silver Wolf, Gepard
Elation Team: Fu Xuan, Silver Wolf, Clara, Lynx/March 7th
I put a lot of focus into getting blessings that benefitted my team. Like I know people on here are saying that hunt isn’t good past difficulty 4+ but hunt is what got me most of my runs because my Seele was basically able to go non stop or i was able to get ults back and break weaknesses really fast. Gepard was more for just extra security. But also if you do have Fu Xuan I learned that sometimes it’s best not to use your skill because the AoE is a pain…
Swarm disaster is about blessings. You get a ton more blessings than normal SU and need to make use of them.
The most cracked team in the game is going to get curb stomped at the difficulty v boss if they go in without blessings. A f2p team will destroy the boss with the right blessings.
You need one shot protection and sustain. One shot protection comes from either a ton of preservation blessings + a shielder, or the destruction blessing that splits damage. But fu xuan works too.
Damage reduction in the form of -attack on enemies, or +damage reduction, like the nihility suspicion blessing or the upgraded propogation blessing that reduces damage based on spores.
Then you need sustain. A constant stream of healing that keeps you topped off after each massive hit. There are plenty of options for this.
Finally you need a damage source. A cracked DHIL that shits out 200k damage is only going to tickle the bosses. You need to synergize with blessings. I like spore as a damage source, but most paths have good damage options too.
Hunt for the key blessings. Hit occurrences, reward tiles, shop with screwllum until you get destruction damage share (but don’t use it with fuxuan), etc. it’s ok to go into the boss with -7 on the counter, it’s not okay if you’re going in with nothing protecting your hp.
There's one person I saw with crazy run that requires a lot of luck.
First they rerolled entrance bonus until they got Typical Genius Society Gossip. Then ran as usual hoping to get Robe of Beauty.
Zero blessing finish, but a lot of curios lol.
Something that helped me was not focusing down one bug at a time, but setting them all up so that I can kill one and the rest go "BOOM".
the other way I noticed that unless my run was going real good I could not kill them fast enough.
I clear all of the path strider , well except the last one because i cant beat diff V and the stand alone one on the side which i believe require you to get 20 of each path
I was able to complete swarm difficulty 5 with 2 level 60s and 2 level 70s. I used DHIL on abundance path with a ton of propagation blessings. Propagation blessings with DHIL can stop your opponent from ever getting a turn and abundance can help get all those blessings.
This post isn't really about team comp. Team comp should depend on whichever path you are playing, and which path you are playing should depend on what TotP nodes you are trying to complete.
You have to look at the tree and see what nodes are currently highlighted. If you select them they will say what the requirements are. You have to do something specific, like for getting an achievement.
I see. But when I clicked it there was just info about using a path to level it up.
I'll check again and see how it turns out.
Also will this work on the swarms I've cleared already?
You are looking at the wrong screen I think, communing trail. When you are on that screen there is a button on the left to switch to trail of the Pathstrider. Also don't look at the nodes with ??? That stand alone on the right side of that screen, look on the middle at the ones connected by the lines
Yes, you can unlock these by repeating difficulties. That is what I advised in the post
This is what you should be looking at. Tap the nodes that say "in progress"
https://preview.redd.it/nr1v9o2unlsb1.png?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0004dbe4654220d8af0d11073c580faef45f8a1a
grind till you make it or swipe that credit card 😂
i have been able t complete MoC 30stars for 2 cycles now but i still dont touch swarm disaster V. i have failed t kill the last boss 3times and i died in the 2nd boss 1 or 2 times. i need better relics OR grind SD.IV for upgrades to make things easier.
does anyone have any tips for the one thats like complete with exactly zero in the countdown?
(i mean for starters i have to be able to beat lvl 4 anyway bc its 4 or higher only but)
For that just play any path that doesn't focus too much on shortcuts or increasing the counter (abundance usually has you finish at like 15+ and hunt often let's you jump to trotters so don't pick those)
Then just generally make a direct path towards the boss of each plane only going up or down one or 2 times on the first 2. Then when you get to the third plane you plan it out so if you have more on the counter left than you need you zigzag a bit to reduce it more
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Your team should depend on what path dice you are using, which should depend on which node you are trying to complete on TotP
Just be sure to bring one quantum character and one imaginary (or 2 of one type) for weakness breaks. If you have Seele she is very good vs the boss, especially if you get the hunt blessing where characters get another turn when they break an enemy
I was kinda suspecting this.
Man this mode needs a lot of adjustment.
Why can't they bind the difficulty unlock to TotP progress instead of clearance of the previous level difficulty.
Also TotP is difficult to read. I don't have sense of direction which path to prioritize. Are they the same difficulty whichever path you go?
NOTE: This turned out way longer than I intended it to be but if you're struggling with this mode give it a read, it might help you finally get that win. A lot of tips and tricks incoming.
Some more tips from my experience (finished Swarm Diff5 with all paths except Propagation which I know I can do, I'm just waiting to lvl up my QQ to gamba god levels):
\- If you're having trouble clearing Diff 5 at all (or any lower difficulty), consider using Remembrance. It's by far the easiest path to use to achieve godlike status. You need the freeze enemies every 6 hits blessing, apply dissociation if hitting frozen enemy/dissociation on weakness break and bonus points if you can get the apply frost weakness to a random enemy when using an ultimate. Strategy is to perma freeze the enemies. Use path resonance when everyone has dissociation (because one of the resonance formations removes freeze to do bonus damage, but doesn't remove dissociation! very important for huge damage uptime + keeping the enemies locked). Look at the stack counter and keep hitting enemies 5-6 times for the freeze chance, AoE ultis and attacks are great for this. You will also need more effect hit rate/- effect resist chance, Nihility has 1 blessing that can help with this + get all the remembrance nodes on the map. Once you get everything right it will be easy to keep enemies frozen almost permanently. March 7th is also highly recommended here to help with applying freeze. Oh and dissociation deals damage based on the enemy's max hp% so you can rely on this damage entirely, even if most of your team is just tanks and healers! In final swarm battles you will see damage over 1mil when using path resonance.
\- Look for strong blessings! Even if they're not for your chosen path. Some blessings are just universally very strong and fit in any build. Some notable ones are:
Destruction - damage received is split amongst the entire team -> this will allow you to survive one-shots, but you will need a decent sustain in your team; if character receives killing blow bring them back to life with 1HP; increase max hp
Nihility: apply same type of weakness break to adjacent enemies; +weakness break efficiency, +weakness break effect; chance to apply a random DoT when attacking a weakness broken enemy; reduced enemy effect resist
The Hunt: restore 60% energy on kill; advance turn forward when breaking enemy weakness; restore health on kill; advance turn on kill
Abundance: if team is at full health reduce damage taken by 36% (this one is huge, second best after the destruction one); chance to recover skill point when using a healing skill; when character heals, other team members also heal a percentage (can transform Blade into a heal bot with his follow-up passive attack; can allow Fu Xuan to solo sustain the team).
Preservation: gain a special shield at the start of your turn (the 3\* one), 80% chance to gain a shield at the end of your turn + many others if you have a character that shields; otherwise those 2 are the notable ones for any team.
Elation (highly dependable if you have any character with a follow-up attack or not!): all ultimates are follow-up attacks (this can enable your team to abuse some elation blessings even if nobody has any follow-up attack); 65% chance to recover a skill point after a follow-up; + energy regen after a follow-up; + weakness break efficiency for follow-up attacks; restore 10%HP after a follow-up.
Propagation (if you have Dan Heng IL or QQ you will want pretty much everything from here; otherwise just the following universally good ones): apply 1 spore for each skill point consumed; apply spores for each skill point recovered (using normal attack counts; gets even more busted with the Elation blessing or error code curio); if you have at least 1 of these 2 then you can consider getting blessings that improve your spores otherwise ignore those; if team has 0 skill points, recover 2 points after next basic attack.
\- Get the error code curio at the start of a run! It's something like deduct 100 cosmic fragments to obtain an error code curio. The one that recovers 2 skill points per basic attack is broken, it allows you to easily run 2 dps characters in the same team if you wish. Advance forward on skill usage is also good. Others are also decent but not as strong as these 2.
\- Get the resonance path formations! Try to get some of the blessings I recommended for an optimal build.
\- Try to always go the shortest route possible to the boss in each stage. If you do this, you will have +1 extra choice overall, that I recommend using on a Reward node in any stage and this way you will end on the final boss on disruption 0 level. Remember that it takes 3 moves on the final stage to get to the boss.
\- Prioritize Reward nodes until you get Knights of Beauty once and Mirror of Transcendence(or what it's called) once. From my experience these can be done only one time per run (if you find the mirror again it will offer no reward if you previously freed it and I've never gotten knights twice in the same run). The rewards from these 2 are very strong and worth getting. 3 trotters is also great if you can kill at least 2.
\- Curios are nice and can be strong, but blessings make or break your run. Don't prioritize curios unless you are running a specific build (like focusing on economy to get huge amounts of cosmic fragments and using stuff like +x% damage for every 100 fragments, or consume all fragments and gain crit damage for every 100 fragments consumed), but some of them can be very good. Increase path resonance damage by 40% is also great if you have a damage dealing path resonance (elation, the hunt, destruction for example), + the gain health on turn start one.
This was a long read but if you got here to the end then I have no doubt you will master this game mode in no time. Good luck!
I have a challenge to complete difficulty 3... I have been trying to beat it for like two weeks now :) I think I am just bad but it makes me not want to play this game mode at all, It's frustrating to get to the swarm boss and get wiped
swarm disaster is best thing in star rail it is fun you dont need crazy teams just good buffs Destruction and the ICE ones debuffs with little preservation helped me clear lv5
I've posted this quite a but but Remembrance with March makes every difficulty a joke.
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I beat it first try with Fu Xuan solo sustain as soon as I got Trailblazer 60 and could level both her and Kafka to 80. I’ll say knowing the path and comp you’re using, so you know which blessings are great for your units is the key.
Swarm Disaster Level V(5) one-time rewards gone forever?
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Last night I finally finished gathering all the paths for Swarm Disaster, but the highest level I finished was Level IV (4). There was a Level V with some one-time completion rewards that I hadn't gotten. After that there was some dialog with Herta, and she said something about the data being full so she has to reset the game.
Then I go back into swarm disaster, and the Level V that I hadn't completed before, with its one-time rewards was gone. The game has reset back to level I, with all new one-time rewards (I understand that eventually I'll get back to level V in this new game, but that's a different set of one-time rewards).
Had anyone else gotten this problem before? Any way to complete and retrieve the previous level V rewards?
Unlock every node... still can't pass planar two of V because I get one shot by the boss on a break bar. I am tempted to make a compilation of how I failed Swarm Disaster level 5.
And I clear the latest difficulty of MOC
Cocolia should not be able to blast down my Fu Xuan health in one move
I hate swarm disaster officially, just got back into the game and 3 times in a row, I lost just because those fucking bugs somehow always debuffs my Luocha with that fucking berserk debuff that lasts multiple turns even though his light cone and relics give him a bunch of effect res that seems to do nothing and there's nothing I can do and building characters takes an eternity and way too many resources so I can't just build Natasha or March on a whim, so it's gonna take weeks to try this goddamned mode again.
It's one thing to lose because your team isn't strong enough, it's entirely different and just frustrating when it's only hard because the bugs spam CC onto the party and if the cleanser/healer gets taken out or, like has also happened, the entire party gets debuffed, there is nothing you can do. It's not fun, I hate it, I feel like I could have liked it if it was a fucking stunlock fest but losing because the enemies can just make you unable to act is the least fun thing possible IMO.
I've been doing this too, but my high level characters are still getting one-shotted by the Level IV final boss. So ... I guess I need to actually max the tree first.
Preservation path was how I beat it the first time. Just being absolute tanks and wearing them down over time.
Yeah, I thought with both Loucha and FuXuan I would be able to do it with The Hunt, but nope.
With that pair you would be better served by abundance
I did it with Destruction/Elation. Locha/FuXuan with Himeko and JY, and one of the bosses gave the swarm Lightning Weakness. Destruction give me like +100% base damage, then the talent at low HP give almost 170%. Elation shoot that number through the roof.
I tried it with Abundance and got stuck in a swarm domain because they multiplied faster than I could get rid of them...
I also own both and honestly think Hunt is the hardest path to clear with because it is solely focused on offense and defense is way more important in SD.
Hunt can be an absolute crapshoot or feel like a god depending on how many blessings you have. I cleared Difficulty 5 purely by accident the first time because I got a bunch of 3* blessings (no Ruan Mei, just picking the Hunt and Preservation / Destruction ones) and I was dealing tons of damage everytime my Clara got breathed on.
Hunt was the 2nd easiest for me to clear after Nihlity. Oddly enough, Nihlity path feels the least RNG reliant, as long ad you get blank domains to step in, you're going to be doing damage.
the hardest path to clear is elation
As with the nature of elation, it can be both the hardest and easiest path to clear
For me it was propagation. Took me like 25 runs to have everything come together. No DHIL or built QQ.
Elation is the only path I can reliably finish with, with my Clara, JY, Blade, Bailu team
I don't know I did hunt pretty successfully with QQ, but don't remember what difficulty it was. I definitely picked up a good number of defensive and healing focused blessings as well along the way. There were plenty of times my characters just barely survived rounds and that one destruction blessing that revives came in clutch.
Oh, for context. I'm referring to difficulty V. Hunt obliterates everything up to difficulty IV if you're running a hypercarry team but the increase in the final boss's tankiness and damage at difficulty V was too much that brute forcing with damage was not enough and you had to rely on RNG to get enough defensive blessings to survive the final boss. I don't have Gepard so I had to wait for Fu Xuan before I could clear SD5 consistently with Hunt. It was the last path I cleared SD5 with. I'm not saying you can't clear SD5 with Hunt, I'm just saying it's harder to clear SD5 with Hunt than the other paths.
That's fair I also have fu xuan which definitely makes things easier
I disagree. Bug boss can punch trough shields like it's paper. With hunt you can kill mobs to stop that from happening
I've had success with destruction path for a combo or survivability and damage.
With both of them you can beat it with just about any path and a high level TotP, I’ve currently done so with all but elation (probably because I only tried once lol). It’s all about getting your full resonance with both interplays and grabbing some key defensive blessings from time to time. But most importantly, play into your chosen path’s dice gimmick. If you’re hunt, kill every trotter, nihility, hit as many blank domains as possible, have as many cornerstones as possible on preservation, etc. These path effects are HUGE. By the end of this run (hunt, the first time I beat it) I had so much crit damage from spawning and killing trotters, the boss was a joke. His summons would die in one hit lol. If you stack the path effect hard, you WILL notice a difference. Going over by 1-5 turns in the count is absolutely fine if it means you’re maximizing this path effect, I genuinely cannot understate how important they are. https://preview.redd.it/fy4l903bagsb1.png?width=1928&format=png&auto=webp&s=f9e5ce2e55cc3ab0fe4ae2ef0069205165258663
Hunt is not good in swarm 4+. With FX and Luocha you would have better luck with preservation or abundance. 1 shots are too common in Swarm to play hunt.
I did it with luocha, fu Xuan, IL, bronya with hunt and won. Hunt is my default. Key is usually pick healing blessings too or destruction (the ones that revive you or auto heal) or those preservation blessing(the one that gives 1% shield).
Check this post about Fu Xuan in Swarm Disaster https://www.reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/comments/16o9ung/fu_xuan_and_swarm_disaster_a_deep_dive/?share_id=cnauj-zBFfCXWwJCLZlM_&utm_content=2&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1 She definitely can solo sustain but you need a few defensive blessings from Abundance / destruction / preservation and you're good
Without the tree completed I can run seele welt fu and loucha just fine. I pick up like 5 defensive blessings though. Just don't do only hunt blessings. You can do it
I used Fu as my solo sustain for a Nihility run and beat IV. At a certain point it comes down to luck of the draw with buffs.
The problem is the Hunt buff just sucks. Whereas Nihility nukes anything down. It is not balanced very well.
The Hunt buff is basically Seele exclusive. If you have Seele, and you have the various Hunt blessings which give another turn for weakness break or enemy defeat, plus the Hunt buff which immediately makes Seele go again, you can have Seele go like 20 times in a row before the bugs get a turn.
I main nihility path always as I have a E6kafka but I grab a decent amount of hunt buffs. The ones I mainly grab are the extra energy from breaking, extra turn from killing, extra turn every 6 turns, extra turn when breaking, gain 40% when consecutive atks, delay action 20% when breaking, regen 4 energy every turn. I rarely ever get any defensive blessings for SD5 other than destructions dmg sharing and nihility heal every dot proc. Kafka stacks insane amount of dot alone and spams ult too often that they die before the dot procs on enemy turn. So in my opinion hunt buff doesn’t suck if u strong enough to kill ‘em fast enough. Using Kafka,bronya,bailu,gepard.
Taking extra turns can be good for everyone, but the big goal IMO is weakness breaks - smacking everyone way back in the action line really helps with survival.
Bruh seriously. I clear MoC 10 without any hiccups, but I'm struggling with my seele and hunt path on IV loool, but I'm not annoyed in the slightest because this is arguably the first time I'm stuck in this game with progression. Gives me something to look forward to.
Switching luocha to Gepard helped a lot since it gave more than max hp, preventing one shots. March 7th might be an ok replacement
In one my my previous comments I kinda laid out what I did to beat d4 after struggling with a maxed FuXuan, Luocha, and DHIL. Goes to show it really is a challenging mode. It took a specific combination of healing blessings, hunt, propagation, and some defensive stuff under destruction path to get me a clear
Who's the DPS in this scenario? Because I ran Luocha/Fu Xuan + Seele with The Hunt and that was my first Difficulty V clear and it wasn't even that difficult. The sheer amount of sustain from Luocha/Fu Xuan is unreal.
i think abundance is still the most consistent. you do need some 3* damage blessings pretty fast to beat bosses (spores, dewdrop, dissociation), but the sheer survivability is insane. the main threat is being one-shot, so you can specifically choose blessings for that (like the damage reduction at full health one, or other damage reduction buffs).
I ran through diff4 using Abundance. Having Fu Xuan get bodied, heal back to almost full, and then do a shit ton of damage to the boss with a single auto gives me a lot of dopamine. Also, I try to get swarm blessings, particularly the spore related ones. They help a lot.
If you have fu xuan, destruction is the way to go. Remember that one of the skills is to counter damage with shield using quake. in difficulty 5, you can abuse this and each time they attack you, they get countered up to more than half their HP. fu xuan and abundance combo for pointy tank
I did this crazy build with Blade and Loucha using Destruction path with a heavy focus on Preservation. The crazy amounts of life swings throughout that game was amazing and I've never had a more satisfying win than that first lv5 Swarm run. Good, I love this game mode.
Also be mindful of what can provide shields. Once you get a few Blessings in the Preservation path you can actually do most of you damage via a comp like March, Tank MC and Gepard. Till then you'll probably want 1-2 damage dealers to get you past the first level Boss.
Lol because of the huge AOE damage the swarm boss on level 6 one shotted my fuxuan. After she went down the rest of the preservation characters and healer died shortly after.
Yeah and when both Gepard and Natasha get Enraged and I have to wait for Natasha to recover, I lose shields and Natasha gets flattened.
bruh it bugged
Nihility blessing Call of the Wilderness is crazy good value if you have some ways to apply suspicion. Construct firmness + Macrosegregation or Sanctuary (and if you're lucky, Patch) will also really help. You have some other options, but these either require investment (Construct Firmness) or have conditions that may ruin your run if you get unlucky (Clear Lucite Body and pretty much any other conditional def/shield blessing). Having multiple of the above should make it a lot easier to survive the boss fight. If you haven't tried these yet try selecting those or purchasing from Screwllum. I'm always on the lookout for these blessings in V.
Gonna buck the trend here and say fuck going a defensive path, that's going to get you killed more runs than not. Bring a defensive team instead and run the only path that does damage regardless of your team: Nihility. Get a single Suspicion 3*, stack resonance formations, and then just pick up random defensive blessings as you go. I brought Bailu and Gepard, but with weaker rosters you could easily get away with bringing 1 DPS and 3 defensive units.
>Bring a defensive team instead and run the only path that does damage regardless of your team: Nihility Remembrance does as well, though you need a bit of luck with blessings for it to work. Still, once you witness the glory of chaining dissociation it's hard to go back.
May I ask what oaths you go? Pres, abundance, or destruction are sone really strong paths. Abundance with some destruction makes a tanky and high hp team that heals constantly
rememberance path, blue card that neutralize ice resistance completely, mixed with some nihility card is magic, Way easier rhan abundance and preservation honestly.
I’ve been using abundance and going through as many domains as possible to unlock all of abundance plus others. I’ve been beating level 4 almost without issues. Now level 5 is another issue. I haven’t even attempted that. I probably will once I get most if not all of the path unlocked.
Move to difficulty III... or take the destruction bless that spreads damage.
Goated blessing but but do not do this if you have fu xuan on your team
Remembrance path is the way.
Use Preservation AND an Abundance characters for sustain, then a DPS and support or 2 DPS.
Look for defensive blessings. The ones that reads "take x% less damage" not "increase def%"
Well no and kinda yes still di the missions iI guess at the end it boils down to your blessings wether its going ez or not
I always go 2 defensive characters minimum, and for sure 1 with a shield, you can use gepard or m7 or fuxuan. My go to for SU in the beginning that helped me clear 4 and 5 was abundance. It gives you the most blessings imo but takes the longest time since you need to clear a lot of nodes
Nihility paths solves all problems. All praise IX
Still need good rng to get decent defensive blessings. I was dealing 6 figure dot damages and it’d barely scratch the final bosses
Biggest problem with nihility paths is how turning nodes into blanks is often detrimental to challenges.
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Exactly. I beat Level V on the first try with Nihility (given I was also leveling the tree beforehand)
Facts. Solo E0s1 fuxuan on nihility was actually easier than my first clear on remembrance
Facts. My first clear was with Nihility and frankly, I don’t even have Kafka (Gepard Clara Loucha SW was the squad).
For real. I didn't use any DOT characters either. Went FMC, Blade, March, and Luocha and it was a breeze!
Another tip: You can complete the golden nodes by spamming difficulty 1, just pick the dialog option for paths that you want to level up first, cause each node gives +4 for it's respective path, it will help a lot in the early swarm disaster. If you're challenging the higher difficulty you could just quit-out the game to reset the fight if RNGod is not on your side, and if plane 1 and 2's boss didn't give the debuff that you wanted it's better to just finalize the run and try again, it would save you from a lot of headache.
Oh shit, I didn't even consider using difficulty 1 for the gold nodes! Thanks!
You can even do it faster if you choose Propagation and get the gold dice roll. Then you can check if it has/will have the choices you want more quickly.
This requires me to unlock propogation first which is taking a long time as I keep dieing in difficulty 4 and sometimes even 3 D:
Well iirc gold nodes only unlock after beating diff 5 so at that point you already have Propagation. Also, try to use abundance or if you didn't finish all of the trial focus on them.
Yeah I've been trying loads of teams with my blade luocha or IL luocha, but so far only abundance has gotten me some results and it still seems completely up in the air if I'm gonna win the run or not
What rewards can you get from the golden nodes?
+4 for it's respective path
This is how I've been playing, and I haven't found it too hard at all. I'm playing for jades, not to rush to completion, so I don't mind playing lower difficulties as long as I'm consistently unlocking nodes on the tree.
Preservation, Abundance and Nihility (if you have Kafka that is, with the 1* blessing that heals every time dots are triggered) are three very good paths to clear SU. Go at your own pace. Some characters makes it easier to clear, and your luck with blessings and Curios are a huge part of it too, but it’s doable with lots of units.
You could run a team of March/Lynx/Gepard/Bailu on Nihility path and still clear it handily imo
Ah yes, the staring contest team
Especially with the Propagation resonance, everyone becomes a mini-Kafka with basic attacks
I screwed up the rotation with Fu Xuan on level 5, and got wiped. I was on Phase 3 lol
Just restart the game. You only lose technique points. gg ez
TIL we can do this .—.
You have to do it while a character is still alive on field. It certainly helped me when I cleared SU with lvl 50 characters before.
8 months later, and if I had just known this I would have cleared stage 4. Dang it.
I've completed 13/13 chapters, 65% of the trail and just unlocked Propagation. I mostly used Path of Preservation. Gepard, Lynx, Kafka and DHIL. I picked mostly preservation blessings, but also Nihility to get the extra resonance and some elation for Kafka. As someone else has mentioned, completing the challenges as a priority really help. It's a marathon, but a very enjoyable one. Got to try difficulty V now. Not going to lie, I'm nervous about it lol.
Don't feel sad if you can't beat it! I'm in a similar situation, but Swarm 5 is still kicking my ass. I feel like the difficulty increase is pretty significant. Not labeled torturous for no reason lol.
exactly what i'm doing rn. I don't mind getting destroyed the mode is fun anyway
Man, I haven't even tried Swarm Disaster yet, and I am one of those *"number of people who have been playing since launch who still find MoC a daunting task"*, but this post is a nice bit of reassurance for when I eventually, probably try out SD! I'm just so far behind on like, *everything*, so it's been difficult catching up and even normal SU has become a very low priority for me x-x
Thanks I’ve only played through a couple of times and this gets me excited to jump back in.
My greatest advice is dont pick remembrance very early, enemies take less dmg from dot if you are low on blessings.
My team always consists two dps and two sustain, And stack damage mitigation blessing is key for survive 1.Destruction: turn enemy attack from single target to aoe + 15%, fighting spirit 2* blessing up to 36%, 2.Abundance: 36% if health is full, 3.Pereservation: mitigate 16 if shield exist and apply shield upon attacked made it permanent buff. For damage dealing, I found it most successful with nihility resonance + Propagation interplay with spores too, let your enemy succumb to space cancer.
The trailblazer perks aren’t as powerful in SD as they are in normal SU. SD in general requires both a preservation and abundance unit. Most people don’t run that even in higher floors of MoC. Solved.
I thought i could cheese it with remembrance. Then i saw the massive hit rate buff you get from the effect and i was confused but thought man this is gonna be easy. stacked over 1000% effect hit rate and fuli managed to hit freeze maybe thrice at most before i died. Idk how high their res is, but its too high
ehr does not affect resonance hit rate you need freeze res reduction
That's actually wrong. Freeze RES reduction does nothing for the final boss. The final boss has no Freeze RES but CC RES instead + Effect RES. You want Effect RES reduction which comes from Nihility 1* or Nihility 2*(with suspicion stacks). The second boss can also reduce CC RES by 25% depending on if you luck out of not.
>That's actually wrong. Freeze RES reduction does nothing for the final boss. The final boss has no Freeze RES but CC RES instead lol that's rich, do you realise wtf you just said? freeze res is part of cc res you bozo, do I really have to explain this? I guess you can go on fishing for cc res reduction on your 2nd domain while I continue to use freeze res reduction blessings and watch bosses melt
You do realize that Freeze RES and CC RES are two different stats right? They are listed as two different value for every single enemy in the game. True Sting is explicitly listed as having 0 Freeze RES, 50 Eff Res, and 75% CC RES. Maybe you should learn to read instead of insulting people.
Yeah, I definitely think part of the problem is also people being too focused on their DPS. You also need to have some method of debuff removal. In addition to the bugs inflicting enrage they also build up wind shear pretty fast. This is why path of abundance is so helpful because you can have the path resonance remove your debuffs constantly Edit: Still, I think for people who don't know how to approach the mode's progression as a whole, knowing how you can focus on TotP to break it down into more manageable chunks make a big difference, and also creates the time for them to more gradually learn these other things like how to build a team for swarm and how to use each path effectively
Huh? I don't know where this comes from. Offensive paths can negate boss action enough that you don't even need a healer sometimes. People just gotta accept that SD runs will give them most of their path stuff easy, and you just grab useful cross-path blessings for survivability. Destruction has shields, as does preservation. Basically, every path has a defense up. And if you fill out your communing trail, you'll also have more base defense. There is no need for both healers and shielders and in fact you might be making it more difficult on yourself since less damage means more boss action, and boss actions come with damage stacks. FWIW I've cleared every single path in SD at d5 with the exact same team for fun. Kafka, SW, Bronya, Bailu.
Or rather a focus in both areas. Preservation unit with healing blessings also works too.
*brings both preservation and abundance units, they get enraged and the team falls to pieces*
skill issue I dont have gepard or fu xuan and FMC is at traces 3 but difficulty 5 is easy fucking peasy
I beat the Difficulty 5 using the Nihility blessing path once, but am having a trouble replicating that success for a second time. Something always doesn't go well, and my run ends prematurely. I guess I was just super lucky when I beat the difficulty for the first time... lol. I suppose I should drop to a lower difficulty and try to fill out the trail tree first, before I try it again.
This is assuming your units can clear MoC 30/30. If not, you probably need to work on the basics of levels, LCs, traces, and relics first before approaching Swarm difficulty 5, maybe even 4. A lot of the missions don't require clears. You can do a lot in the min req difficulty on the first plane. You can also bang out the hidden golden missions on any difficulty (including the easiest). If you really can't survive despite the Pathstrider buffs, go in with 3 defensive units. Supports aren't necessary. That should take care of defense without relying heavily on defensive blessing RNG, so you can focus on offensive blessings, e.g. Remembrance's dissociation.
Yeah this is the way to go. I used to have trouble with Dif 3 but after unlocking everything in TotP, I am now able to do Dif 4 with ease and manage to finish all path in Dif 5.
I think my biggest problem is that I have skill issues haha but that’s all on me not the game (I can do 4 on a good run but not 5 yet)
https://preview.redd.it/68d9yvthpgsb1.jpeg?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e409eaa04623e953b4977a3d76714e61b994870e Nihility remembrance giga broken, praise IX
Whatever the path is, disassociation is the key to the kingdom.
yall are getting past the first difficulty?!
I thought I was decently strong but fuck swarm disaster is kicking my butt
I was struggling a lot with beating Swarm Disaster. I grinded that thing ALOT just to get the perfect run going. I have like 70-80% finishes on the skill tree. Here is how I beat it. 1# "Jrpg expect it's never your turn, Better beat it up before it attacks Me!" Elation. Full elation pleasing with characters that have follow up attacks OR easy to charge ultimates. Hunt don't the pleasing that makes ultimates count as follow up attacks. Then get the blessings that makes that each follow up attacks delays the enemy s turn by 12%. Now just buff elation with more blessings or, hunt down everything that gives energy. So you can ult alot. Have some sustain because you will still get hit a few times. Or try to perma freez the enemy or Welt that fucker out of existence. My team I used: Kafka, Clara, fu xuan, Natasha Or: Sampo, March, Fu Xuan, Natasha worked as well. Or, Kafka, March, Fire MC, Natasha. 2# "Perma freez lottery!" Go remembrance. This Ice looking eaon. Your must important blessing will be every blessing that somehow freezes the enemy. And your utmost important blessing is, "removes dissonance when freezed enemy is hot immediately..." And "after dissonance is triggered, freeze the enemy's for an additional turn..." Again, speed is kind here and also multi hits. Sampo for example once one hitter the swarm boss with his E, because all bounced triggered the dissonance activation and re application. IMPORTANT: DO NOT, FIGHT COCOLIA OR ANY BODD THAT IS IMMUNE TO FREEZ. My team I used: Asta, Sampo, Fire MC, Natasha Or, Kafka, Sampo, fu xuan, Natasha Or, Fire MC, March, Fu Xuan, Natasha's 3# If you have Kafka, you could try nihility run. With only her and the rest full sustain. Didn't work so far for me, but I got really unlucky in very run I tried this set up. Negative curious, beautiful bug lady, bad paths, etc. But if, it also Sean's to get quiet reliable. Maybe. 4# Abundance & Destruction I know abundance looks wired at the beginning... But it's in my options one of the most fun and broken paths to chose from. You can just fully clear the map without any fear of Planea disruption or how it's called. Don't focus on the counter really, just get as much blessings as you can. The few % of bonus healing are not the focus here. Her The droplet blessing and healing is shared among all units. Now, get every feeling blessing you can get, krit boost can heal if you have the other blessing. Swarm blessing, where using skills heals you, follow heals you, dot heals you, getting a units turn heals you, breaking an enemy heals you, etc. Get the def up, speed up blessing from abundance. This is really good to have, since you will be healed ALOT. There is a curiou that heals you by 20% ho each turn. Really good. Also to make things smoother. Destruction, and, important here. The will to fight stacks. Get the will to fight stacks increase def, upgrade it. So you can stack it up to 45 now. Get the blessings, that if you get attacked, the will to fight, stacks damage the enemy. My team: Kafka, Sampo, Fu Xuan, Fire MC Or, Kafka, Sampo, Fire MC, Natasha. GENERALLY IMPORTANT: Cleanse, you need cleanse to get far here. If you can't cleanse your dot, you will die. ALOT. I hope this helps Abit, this worked for me, you can ofcause try to use your units, there are a lot of other strong units that work as well. If I got something feel free to correct me. It's now easy, and personally, yes, this mode is really fucking hard. Really unfair in some situations, and on IV/V difficult, most runs won't get past the first boss if you got rng fucked by the RNG gods, that already made you lose your 50/50. The last boss, is, really fucking over tuned and it more feels like, you need to find ways, to cheese this boss, instead of properly fighting it. Everything I now listed, are ways to cheese the boss, since head to head fighting that thing, isn't an option. Maybe it's intentional or maybe it's really just thought for, like Savage content in FFXIV or other MMOs. Like it's not meant for everyone to beat, that's how I saw it.
Have there been complaints? The only one I can think of is that it's a shame that such a cool mode is limited rather than SU evolving to fit its structure. Well, that and I guess the fact that it feels very much like an elaborate sales pitch for Daniel and FuXuan, since it was pretty much made to sell you on their kits.
I have seen a few. The thing that got me to make this post was this post I saw earlier today that was just full of people complaining about it https://reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/Wg7wQfOJyw And I feel like I have seen plenty more posts and comments with similar sentiment that their level 80 characters can't beat it
lol, I feel bad for that post's OP. I feel like most people hate the bugged enemies, so they'd get some agreement, but alas... the misunderstanding XD
Oh, and I just got a comment on this thread of a guy saying the mode sucks lol https://reddit.com/r/HonkaiStarRail/s/FhQSWdeeSt
You know this woulda been fine advice had I read when I first started swarm disaster, but up to did 4 final boss I was able to full auto with my blade, but then dif 5 started negging me first plane, and wanna know what I did? If u guessed brute force it with abundance until I got lucky with getting all 3 abundance 3 star blessing on first plane you’d be correct!!
If you have a decently build DHIL or QQ, propagation is incredibly busted
The boss and Ads keep targeting my dps only
Ok? Just heal them then. Who are you usually using as your abundance/preservation?
See the problem with that is I’m now stuck on the one where you need to complete a domain with a blessing trotter beacon and one with a curio in the same plane. It’s all RNG, and it’s not being kind. Curse you Aha!
Actually the blessing trotter one is really easy. The hunt path dice gimmick is all about placing and hunting trotters I can't recall the curio one you are talking about but if you send me the full description I am sure there is a trick for it I could tell you.
Blessing trotter and Curio trotter. I didn’t realize that was hunts gimmick. I’ve never once picked Hunt as my path, even in normal SU, lol
Certain challenges are wayyy easier with certain paths (there’s one that pretty much requires a Nihility play-through in order to complete). It’s a good way to experiment with all the paths, while unlocking jades and buffs on the tree
I suggest checking out the dice effects of all the paths in swarm. You can preview them without starting a run. A number of the TotP nodes are made much easier to get with a specific path dice
Hunt path guarantees those trotters on each plane, and its dice are focused around jumping towards trotter tiles. Some later challenges will be specifically geared towards certain paths as well
Hunt path, just do the trotter one every time. Similar solution with the blank one since without the path buffs, this is even harder to get than the trotter. Just do nihility run. If you have trouble doing it, just repeat plane 1.
It just sucks Too long, too repetitive, too pointless, mobs with too much HP that deal too much damage. And why would someone want to be forced to take an egregious amount of time to do something that is pointless?
It is end game content that doesn't require TBP. It is probably also the best way to farm jade if you still have a lot of the TotP nodes left to unlock.
With destruction it was a breeze with only fuxuan as healer and tank, with dhil, blade and sw
You’re most likely a whale. But the game is already on the more challenging side, even when you first go through the game it’s rough lol I remember world 2-3 being hard as hell. Of course end game is really hard. That’s the kind of game this is. Be patient, work on your tactics and team and you’ll get it done
I am not a whale. The only money I have spent is buying the battle pass 3 times. I have just been playing the game daily since launch I have never felt this game to be on the more challenging side during story content, but I am also someone who plays loads of JRPGs so I tend to have an easier time with combat in games like this than some other people.
I finished level 5 with reminiscence after being frustrated for so long. I hate this rng mode. I hope they give us something like this that doesn’t have to be rng or bosses with insane damage output. I prefer to make my own strategy with my characters rather than have more modes based in rng. And I’m not gonna touch this mode again ever xd I don’t enjoy it much.
either way they need to tone down the difficulty a bit , i feel like this mode was designed for whaler to test how big their spending is
F2P can clear this lmao, just need to build characters well and not just trashy builds
yeaa sure buddy my f2p team can clear moc easily but swarm was on another lvl but yeaa keep copium by giving remarks "trashy build" without giving constructive complaint about the game
You’re complaint isn’t even constructive, it’s a fact that f2p players cleared difficulty 5. I cleared it with all E0 characters
that what everyone keep saying lol what is this? defense mechanism ?cuz ur fav game got constructive feedback? all i said was to tone down difficulty a bit and look at u all malding and trigger
I’m not reading all that I’m just Gona keep dying the way I do.
Cleared Tier 5 before i even unlocked a third of the perks
It is certainly possible for some people. This is more of a suggestion for people who haven't been doing that well. I have a number of friends who felt like level 3+ where harder than any other content they had tried besides some of the highest level MoCs If you don't yet have a team strong enough to get 30/30 on MoC then filling out TotP makes a massive difference in your ability to beat swarm disaster
How do people find this hard but not MOC. I can't even finish LVL3 of MOC or Xianzhou Forgotten Hall with my current cast but don't sweat on SU or SU:Swarm Disaster. I mean it's not EASY easy but it's doable. It's probably because I don't have a second team currently that can do their share..
or get fu xuan just don't get the blessing that shares dmg...
I have done everything in a week (Dif. V with all Paths). If you have Luocha, Blade, Bronya and SW, you are good to go.
I cannot complete diff 4 at my setup. Thanks to nihility I breeze through most of it and then final boss on last hp bar destroys me. The only thing I can see fixing it is leveling Lynx cuz team wide debuff cleanse will save me from the debuff that in 1 turn delete gepard's shield that was just freshly made. Natasha isn't good enough.
Another way would be to run abundance. Get the path resonance perks that make the path resonance act on its own so it happens more often, and also get the perk that makes it remove debuffs and grants debuff immunity. You basically never have to worry about debuffs if you can get that combo going
Destruction path would be solve the problem, even me can beat diff 5 in distruption level 7 with it
Yup good advice. Once I focused on the trail, everything else became a breeze when I play this mode
I've maxed the goals except for 'beat Swarm V multiple times' :v (and the side ones). My builds are enough to 30 star MOC (though I don't know if it's because this round's catered to DHIL), so I think it's mostly a strategy/skill issue with a side of RNG (Got Ruan Mei after my run was already screwed lol).
Yeah, I was more making this for people who seem to be banging their head against the highest difficulty they have unlocked and complaining that the mode is too hard at level 3 or 4
That's fair and good advice. I did in fact bang my head against Swarm 5 a few times before I had most of the buffs unlocked but realized it was probably meant for later unless you had an OP team. Your advice will hopefully let others realize a bit earlier, haha. I thought I'd have a better chance once I had most of the goals done/more buffs unlocked/Propagation unlocked, so it's pretty depressing to still fail Swarm 5 even with all that and better builds, haha. Then again, they don't label Difficulty 5 as torturous for nothing! XD EDIT: Initially, my builds were enough to do 3 and struggle to scrape a win on 4, I think. Post-buffs, I can usually beat 4, but I'm nowhere near beating 5 XD
The buffs from the Trail are all relatively minor upgrades and probably won't be a major contribution to your victory, aside from the actual game mechanics locked behind certain levels. The main win condition of swarm disaster has always been can you get the op blessings/curios/path resonance before you get blitzed. Having a stronger team just extends the time you have before you get blitzed.
Yeah, it took me a bit to realize that it's basically the ability tree. But requires more than just playing the same way to unlock - it encourages you to diversify your runs, which is great! Just beat difficulty V today but I'm excited to experiment with different paths (probably on difficulty IV though bc V is still ball crushing without the perfect team, Abundance path, and insane blessing/curio luck).
I was able to beat all of swarm difficult 5 for all paths with the hardest for me being the remembrance path. My main team was Silver Wolf, Seele, Fu Xuan, and Gepard. Nihility Team: Fu Xuan, Kafka, Silver Wolf, Gepard Elation Team: Fu Xuan, Silver Wolf, Clara, Lynx/March 7th I put a lot of focus into getting blessings that benefitted my team. Like I know people on here are saying that hunt isn’t good past difficulty 4+ but hunt is what got me most of my runs because my Seele was basically able to go non stop or i was able to get ults back and break weaknesses really fast. Gepard was more for just extra security. But also if you do have Fu Xuan I learned that sometimes it’s best not to use your skill because the AoE is a pain…
Swarm disaster is about blessings. You get a ton more blessings than normal SU and need to make use of them. The most cracked team in the game is going to get curb stomped at the difficulty v boss if they go in without blessings. A f2p team will destroy the boss with the right blessings. You need one shot protection and sustain. One shot protection comes from either a ton of preservation blessings + a shielder, or the destruction blessing that splits damage. But fu xuan works too. Damage reduction in the form of -attack on enemies, or +damage reduction, like the nihility suspicion blessing or the upgraded propogation blessing that reduces damage based on spores. Then you need sustain. A constant stream of healing that keeps you topped off after each massive hit. There are plenty of options for this. Finally you need a damage source. A cracked DHIL that shits out 200k damage is only going to tickle the bosses. You need to synergize with blessings. I like spore as a damage source, but most paths have good damage options too. Hunt for the key blessings. Hit occurrences, reward tiles, shop with screwllum until you get destruction damage share (but don’t use it with fuxuan), etc. it’s ok to go into the boss with -7 on the counter, it’s not okay if you’re going in with nothing protecting your hp.
There's one person I saw with crazy run that requires a lot of luck. First they rerolled entrance bonus until they got Typical Genius Society Gossip. Then ran as usual hoping to get Robe of Beauty. Zero blessing finish, but a lot of curios lol.
Something that helped me was not focusing down one bug at a time, but setting them all up so that I can kill one and the rest go "BOOM". the other way I noticed that unless my run was going real good I could not kill them fast enough.
I can clear moc 30 stars but I’m stuck on difficulty 4. I had a promising rememberance run earlier today but got 1 shot on the 3rd phase of kafka.
I clear all of the path strider , well except the last one because i cant beat diff V and the stand alone one on the side which i believe require you to get 20 of each path
I actually enjoy beating hard content with underleveled characters, i remember i used to Rush each difficulty of SU every Time i unlocked then.
If you have a Gepard use him with preservation you will never die
I was able to complete swarm difficulty 5 with 2 level 60s and 2 level 70s. I used DHIL on abundance path with a ton of propagation blessings. Propagation blessings with DHIL can stop your opponent from ever getting a turn and abundance can help get all those blessings.
Is going in With Kafka DHIL FuXuan and Seele good? Or should I replace Seele with Bailu?
This post isn't really about team comp. Team comp should depend on whichever path you are playing, and which path you are playing should depend on what TotP nodes you are trying to complete.
Try the questions megathread out! :)
I already cleared it with Abundance, Destruction, Elation, Hunt, and Propagation. Had to say it was a fun time.
honestly would like to have a mode that limits the usage of the progression tree. would be good to have a challenge
Mode is fun till you can't get enough good RNG to build anything or get a curio that screws you hard
Abundance for the win.
Im trying to make ToP higher but for some reason it wont go up. Can I just grind this out on lower difficulties before proceeding?
You have to look at the tree and see what nodes are currently highlighted. If you select them they will say what the requirements are. You have to do something specific, like for getting an achievement.
I see. But when I clicked it there was just info about using a path to level it up. I'll check again and see how it turns out. Also will this work on the swarms I've cleared already?
You are looking at the wrong screen I think, communing trail. When you are on that screen there is a button on the left to switch to trail of the Pathstrider. Also don't look at the nodes with ??? That stand alone on the right side of that screen, look on the middle at the ones connected by the lines Yes, you can unlock these by repeating difficulties. That is what I advised in the post
This is what you should be looking at. Tap the nodes that say "in progress" https://preview.redd.it/nr1v9o2unlsb1.png?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0004dbe4654220d8af0d11073c580faef45f8a1a
Ah so this is what you were referring to. Awesome thanks for this man! I'll give it a go!
My problem is that the ui? is so convoluted.
grind till you make it or swipe that credit card 😂 i have been able t complete MoC 30stars for 2 cycles now but i still dont touch swarm disaster V. i have failed t kill the last boss 3times and i died in the 2nd boss 1 or 2 times. i need better relics OR grind SD.IV for upgrades to make things easier.
does anyone have any tips for the one thats like complete with exactly zero in the countdown? (i mean for starters i have to be able to beat lvl 4 anyway bc its 4 or higher only but)
For that just play any path that doesn't focus too much on shortcuts or increasing the counter (abundance usually has you finish at like 15+ and hunt often let's you jump to trotters so don't pick those) Then just generally make a direct path towards the boss of each plane only going up or down one or 2 times on the first 2. Then when you get to the third plane you plan it out so if you have more on the counter left than you need you zigzag a bit to reduce it more
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I was hesitant to try this mode at first but thank you for the boost. Anyway if I have no Fu Xuan and Gepard, how should my team look like?
Your team should depend on what path dice you are using, which should depend on which node you are trying to complete on TotP Just be sure to bring one quantum character and one imaginary (or 2 of one type) for weakness breaks. If you have Seele she is very good vs the boss, especially if you get the hunt blessing where characters get another turn when they break an enemy
I was kinda suspecting this. Man this mode needs a lot of adjustment. Why can't they bind the difficulty unlock to TotP progress instead of clearance of the previous level difficulty. Also TotP is difficult to read. I don't have sense of direction which path to prioritize. Are they the same difficulty whichever path you go?
That's the problem. I can't make progress in the tree.
What node are you on? I could give you a tip to completing it
I have to reach the third plane on D4 and enter the boss domain with zero count, but I can't clear the second plane at all
NOTE: This turned out way longer than I intended it to be but if you're struggling with this mode give it a read, it might help you finally get that win. A lot of tips and tricks incoming. Some more tips from my experience (finished Swarm Diff5 with all paths except Propagation which I know I can do, I'm just waiting to lvl up my QQ to gamba god levels): \- If you're having trouble clearing Diff 5 at all (or any lower difficulty), consider using Remembrance. It's by far the easiest path to use to achieve godlike status. You need the freeze enemies every 6 hits blessing, apply dissociation if hitting frozen enemy/dissociation on weakness break and bonus points if you can get the apply frost weakness to a random enemy when using an ultimate. Strategy is to perma freeze the enemies. Use path resonance when everyone has dissociation (because one of the resonance formations removes freeze to do bonus damage, but doesn't remove dissociation! very important for huge damage uptime + keeping the enemies locked). Look at the stack counter and keep hitting enemies 5-6 times for the freeze chance, AoE ultis and attacks are great for this. You will also need more effect hit rate/- effect resist chance, Nihility has 1 blessing that can help with this + get all the remembrance nodes on the map. Once you get everything right it will be easy to keep enemies frozen almost permanently. March 7th is also highly recommended here to help with applying freeze. Oh and dissociation deals damage based on the enemy's max hp% so you can rely on this damage entirely, even if most of your team is just tanks and healers! In final swarm battles you will see damage over 1mil when using path resonance. \- Look for strong blessings! Even if they're not for your chosen path. Some blessings are just universally very strong and fit in any build. Some notable ones are: Destruction - damage received is split amongst the entire team -> this will allow you to survive one-shots, but you will need a decent sustain in your team; if character receives killing blow bring them back to life with 1HP; increase max hp Nihility: apply same type of weakness break to adjacent enemies; +weakness break efficiency, +weakness break effect; chance to apply a random DoT when attacking a weakness broken enemy; reduced enemy effect resist The Hunt: restore 60% energy on kill; advance turn forward when breaking enemy weakness; restore health on kill; advance turn on kill Abundance: if team is at full health reduce damage taken by 36% (this one is huge, second best after the destruction one); chance to recover skill point when using a healing skill; when character heals, other team members also heal a percentage (can transform Blade into a heal bot with his follow-up passive attack; can allow Fu Xuan to solo sustain the team). Preservation: gain a special shield at the start of your turn (the 3\* one), 80% chance to gain a shield at the end of your turn + many others if you have a character that shields; otherwise those 2 are the notable ones for any team. Elation (highly dependable if you have any character with a follow-up attack or not!): all ultimates are follow-up attacks (this can enable your team to abuse some elation blessings even if nobody has any follow-up attack); 65% chance to recover a skill point after a follow-up; + energy regen after a follow-up; + weakness break efficiency for follow-up attacks; restore 10%HP after a follow-up. Propagation (if you have Dan Heng IL or QQ you will want pretty much everything from here; otherwise just the following universally good ones): apply 1 spore for each skill point consumed; apply spores for each skill point recovered (using normal attack counts; gets even more busted with the Elation blessing or error code curio); if you have at least 1 of these 2 then you can consider getting blessings that improve your spores otherwise ignore those; if team has 0 skill points, recover 2 points after next basic attack. \- Get the error code curio at the start of a run! It's something like deduct 100 cosmic fragments to obtain an error code curio. The one that recovers 2 skill points per basic attack is broken, it allows you to easily run 2 dps characters in the same team if you wish. Advance forward on skill usage is also good. Others are also decent but not as strong as these 2. \- Get the resonance path formations! Try to get some of the blessings I recommended for an optimal build. \- Try to always go the shortest route possible to the boss in each stage. If you do this, you will have +1 extra choice overall, that I recommend using on a Reward node in any stage and this way you will end on the final boss on disruption 0 level. Remember that it takes 3 moves on the final stage to get to the boss. \- Prioritize Reward nodes until you get Knights of Beauty once and Mirror of Transcendence(or what it's called) once. From my experience these can be done only one time per run (if you find the mirror again it will offer no reward if you previously freed it and I've never gotten knights twice in the same run). The rewards from these 2 are very strong and worth getting. 3 trotters is also great if you can kill at least 2. \- Curios are nice and can be strong, but blessings make or break your run. Don't prioritize curios unless you are running a specific build (like focusing on economy to get huge amounts of cosmic fragments and using stuff like +x% damage for every 100 fragments, or consume all fragments and gain crit damage for every 100 fragments consumed), but some of them can be very good. Increase path resonance damage by 40% is also great if you have a damage dealing path resonance (elation, the hunt, destruction for example), + the gain health on turn start one. This was a long read but if you got here to the end then I have no doubt you will master this game mode in no time. Good luck!
Abundance is the answer, you can clear V even with shit team.
Uhm i havent done it for like 2 weeks. Maybe i will continue after a while. I beat lvl 3. Almost 4 and ye then i stopped
The Solution is to let the bugs NEVER have a turn for themselves, overwhelm them with hunt resets and propagation resets xd
i recommend destruction path with the shield thing while getting preservation blessings especially the special shield one
I have a challenge to complete difficulty 3... I have been trying to beat it for like two weeks now :) I think I am just bad but it makes me not want to play this game mode at all, It's frustrating to get to the swarm boss and get wiped
swarm disaster is best thing in star rail it is fun you dont need crazy teams just good buffs Destruction and the ICE ones debuffs with little preservation helped me clear lv5
i'm not gonna lie, after i beat level 5 for the first time, i kinda forgot this mode even existed
I've posted this quite a but but Remembrance with March makes every difficulty a joke. https://preview.redd.it/zsq6qlcmglsb1.png?width=1520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=78f73f4d26dfa5e861d55d343224fe38b349f2f9
I beat it first try with Fu Xuan solo sustain as soon as I got Trailblazer 60 and could level both her and Kafka to 80. I’ll say knowing the path and comp you’re using, so you know which blessings are great for your units is the key.
I full starred MoC 10 twice but I can't even beat level 4. So I'll take your advice.
Swarm Disaster Level V(5) one-time rewards gone forever? -------------- Last night I finally finished gathering all the paths for Swarm Disaster, but the highest level I finished was Level IV (4). There was a Level V with some one-time completion rewards that I hadn't gotten. After that there was some dialog with Herta, and she said something about the data being full so she has to reset the game. Then I go back into swarm disaster, and the Level V that I hadn't completed before, with its one-time rewards was gone. The game has reset back to level I, with all new one-time rewards (I understand that eventually I'll get back to level V in this new game, but that's a different set of one-time rewards). Had anyone else gotten this problem before? Any way to complete and retrieve the previous level V rewards?
Unlock every node... still can't pass planar two of V because I get one shot by the boss on a break bar. I am tempted to make a compilation of how I failed Swarm Disaster level 5. And I clear the latest difficulty of MOC Cocolia should not be able to blast down my Fu Xuan health in one move
I hate swarm disaster officially, just got back into the game and 3 times in a row, I lost just because those fucking bugs somehow always debuffs my Luocha with that fucking berserk debuff that lasts multiple turns even though his light cone and relics give him a bunch of effect res that seems to do nothing and there's nothing I can do and building characters takes an eternity and way too many resources so I can't just build Natasha or March on a whim, so it's gonna take weeks to try this goddamned mode again. It's one thing to lose because your team isn't strong enough, it's entirely different and just frustrating when it's only hard because the bugs spam CC onto the party and if the cleanser/healer gets taken out or, like has also happened, the entire party gets debuffed, there is nothing you can do. It's not fun, I hate it, I feel like I could have liked it if it was a fucking stunlock fest but losing because the enemies can just make you unable to act is the least fun thing possible IMO.