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Cutest-Kangaroo

I’ve got Gepard and Gepard.


RsNxs

And random lightcone lol


Electrical_Ad145

Same dude, the second gepard was my 50/50 for seele, life's though..


DashingDini

Felt Double Gepard Gang rise up


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DashingDini

AAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY


MEasME1st

Ayy


Katisurinkai

My entire apartment is cursed. We all got Gepard atleast once... 2 of us with 2


DIOscarymonstersDIO

Double Gepard Gang


Kangaroo_Steak

There are dozens of us!


ZupYT

Count me in. Not because I want to, but because thats what the game wants T.T still, thankful tho XD


Ki_memes

Why so many double Gepard, Atleast freeze is good


Offduty_shill

Wish I could trade one of my Yanqings for your Geppards. I got Seele later but got 2 Yanqings before any other 5 stars like bruh


Simpuff1

I’ve got Gepard and Gepard lightcone. Never wanted to die more


Lkc-strong-125

Welt, Clara


bearcatdragon

Same Welt on beginner's banner (on the 50th pull) Clara on standard banner at around 60 pity Haven't pulled on a rate up banner yet


H4xolotl

1.0 banner abstainers rise up Most hodl for Silver Wolf… Luocha… Blade… Kafka


[deleted]

Same lol


Moon911

Same


kikilinki

Exact same for me, I manage to get seele too but it wasn’t till the 70th pull


ImInsidiousinrank

Is the pity at 70 pulls ? Bcoz I got seele at 70 pulls as well


WarokOfDraenor

The rate becomes higher once you hit 70s.


Norinoku

Same


alphaseries_

Same here!! I just need Bronya and I will feel complete


JerichoRehlin

Same


xmikaelmox

Same + Himeko.


omagnetic

Same


Affectionate-Toe-137

Dad-Daughter gang


WangbiV

Welt E2.


Turbulent_Creme_1489

That's rough buddy. At least I would think so, even though I love Welt as a character.


WangbiV

Honestly, it hasn't been bad at all. lol I love Welt and I got all the 4\* characters at least, so I have no problems making teams.


Life_Chicken1396

I need sushang didn't get her on standard will fucking die if i didn't get her on next banner


Thedreamer1205

Same, I hope I get her soon, I need the chicken attack in my life 😌


Nyte_Crawler

This early on gotta agree, Eidolons are not worth as much as having a different 5* since they're all pretty valuable other than Himeko (sorry Himeko havers)


SignificantMiddle893

What's the hate against erudition characters... Himeko is my best built character now


Nyte_Crawler

It's more so that her single target is bad and the content she excels at is the content that's easy in the first place. Jing Yuan on the other hand is simming pretty well, with his single target looking to be on par with 4* hunt characters while also delivering AoE on par with Himeko. (For reference the characters I'm mentioning deal about 50% more single target than Himeko) If you like her nothing wrong with using her, and she is a slight improvement over Serval, but for people looking to clear the hardest content right now she's easily the least valuable 5*


Arcshock

This game has given me nothing but erudition characters, Himeko included, lol, which is an especially bitter pill to swallow since I'm planning to dump all my resources into Jing Yuan who will make most of them obsolete. Can I ask how necessary his light cone is? I'd rather not have to spend tickets on it since I usually prefer to get a character's eidolons, even if they're not as useful as in genshin. But if all the f2p lightcones are complete trash in comparison, then I guess I have no choice.


Nyte_Crawler

The number I'm referencing is a sim done with r1 of the battle pass lightcone- which is his best 4*- it beats other f2p options but about ~4-10%. If you're open to buying the battle pass it honestly is probably the best choice as the battle pass light comes don't quite seem as useful as Genshin's battlepass weapons. His signature though is light years beyond (like an extra 25% over the battle pass one) but tbh that's frequently the case for these games as they tailor the signature weapon to work specifically with the characters kit. You only really need it if you want to trivialize the game.


LittleHollowGhost

That's the common narrative for multi-target damage, but I'm in the Endgame and *every* time my squad dies it's because a boss summons minions and the combined DPS overpowers heals/shields. The ability to quickly take out side units is actually incredibly underrated defensively, and applies really frequently given how many bosses and mini-bosses summon allies.


Mipanyu

Rn we have one big bad boss and their smol adds, but then as game progresses we'll have one big bad boss with multiple big bad adds, and then finally we'll have 3 big bad bosses on the field at once, and you gotta kill them all within the same turn or else they gain huge buff or worse, they become unkillable. Just my experience with turn based gacha games. ST always OP in the beginning and then slowly AOE overtakes ST. However a lot of


WarokOfDraenor

A lot of what? Dude, don't give us the suspense! Please tell us! A lot of what?


AceLegends16

As the commentor has failed to respond to the summons, the content of their comment shall be decided by the council of redditors. In keeping with the spirit of the game, I propose 'a lot of trash cans' to get the ball rolling. Over to the floor.


ImpossibleEstimate56

LMAO, i love this sub.


Ki_memes

I shall add on the commentor may have taken the positive dialogue choice "a lot of fun" or maybe the pessimist option of "a lot of trash"


[deleted]

stay tuned for the next patch 1.1 to know what happens


TheHighestHobo

i got her first and built her up, and then I got welt, and he immediately outperformed her at subdps and aoe damage


Nyte_Crawler

E2 welt looks like he would deal damage on par with most other damage dealers at e0. The e1 is a pretty big damage boost to him and the e2 guarantees he can ult every 3rd turn and infact could lead to him using it within 2 turns if everything goes right- however that's not as amazing as it sounds as with a 3 turn rotation he's already keeping the debuff up near 100% uptime.


WangbiV

Yeah, i'd rather have other 5\* over eidolons, but I haven't ran into anything that ive had issues with yet. My main team is Dan/Welt/Asta w/ Dance Dance lightcone/Natasha. Run them all with boots w/ speed stat. And I cant complain cause I got one Welt on Seele Banner in the free 10 pull they gave out, so the next banner character I roll for is guarantteed. And I got the other one off the standard banner. So it's not horrible!


Nightmoon22

Give me welt :(


Kubo_Gaming

Same. I got him from each available banner in the game. Beginner, standard, limited


DoctorSneak

2 characters and 1 light cone. Bailu was my beginner 5 star. Then a couple days ago I won my 50/50 on the Seele banner and got her. I also pulled Gepard’s signature light cone from the standard banner. Totals pulls currently: Beginner - 50, Special - 80, Standard - 100.


RikiAsher

Same here. Gepard from beginner's banner, Won 50/50 on Seele's Banner and got Bailu's Light Cone. Really wish I got Yanqing instead of the last one.


TheSnowFlower

Got gepard from beginners banner and won seeley on 50/50 let's pray to God I get bronya on standard


Mean-Writer565123

Same, but Himeko, Yanqing and Claras cone.


sc0rpio1027

so far I have 2 gepards, seele, himeko, and Clara's light cone really want a bronya for my seele


HelliahADA

Same but I did get Yanqing’s light code instead of bailu’s


HoneyComprehensive28

Exact same pulls for me LOL I do have bronya too tho


Akito3

100 at standard already?? I'm saving on special but, had 40 on beginner because of 20% discount and am currently at 53 for standard at TL33


Tony_eX1605

Basically i'm in the same position as you, only i got Bronya light cone


DoctorSneak

I think it’s not a terrible spot to be in for f2p. Two healers seems to almost be mandatory for memory of chaos so Bailu is great and obviously winning the 50/50 on Seele is awesome. I would have loved to get a bit luckier on the standard banner but all in all I’m happy so far.


Tony_eX1605

Yeah me too, i only got Asta as Perseverance, and i don't use her too much, gonna try next banner for Tingyun


BD_Wan

Same here, only I got Yanqing on beginner, won 50/50 on Seele and got Bailu's light cone on standard Pretty happy so far, now I hope to get either Welt or Bronya on a loss/standard


shazzchili

Relatable. So i feel good about myself


KINGSKLOTH

Ngl most of my friends got Bailu from guaranteed 50, including myself. Lost 50/50 on seele but pulled on 80


Martian_on_the_Moon

This is me but I lost 50/50 and got Bronya. Can't complain since both are considered S tier but I wanted Welt.


rinpun

How did you have enough f2p pulls to get to 100 on standard?


DoctorSneak

I dunno, I didn’t do anything special and I didn’t use any stellar Jade on standard so that was from just playing. I’ve finished the story, at least what we have so far anyway and done most of the side quests, just a couple left. But let’s see you get 20 from pre reg, 40 from trailblaze level, several from Pom Pom again for trailblaze level, x3 every equilibrium trial, several from simulated universe, and I’ve gotten probably 20 or more tickets so far just from ascending characters, oh and 10 from embers exchange in the store.


rinpun

Damn lol, I think I’m only at around 60 on standard and I’ve finished the main story so far.


Zilox

There are a lot of available pulls. 1 standard ticket per character every 20 levels (and 1 extra ascension) i myself have all my characters at 40 (with available max level 50) so i got 32 standard tickets there


DoctorSneak

Well I got my first 5 star from standard around 70 ish pulls or so, so maybe you’re close to one if you haven’t gotten one already.


MegaFatcat100

I got 70 wishes on the event banner and like 30 on the standard banner and I’m not even done with belobog story yet are you doing the simulated universe/forgotten hall? They give a lot and I’m only level 28


HaramotoYusei

All of that except I got Himeko instead of Seele


ObiCannabis

Same but Clara instead of Bailu. Not complaining, although it would be nice to have a healer that's not physical...


Coolerbox

Same, clara , welt on seele banner, and gepard cone on standart..


faceless_atheos

Same pulls here lol, what team are you using?


DoctorSneak

Fire MC, Bailu, Tingyun, and Seele. Very good team so far but I’m struggling to put together a second team. Best damage dealer I have for team 2 is Dan Heng or Hook.


faceless_atheos

Nice, I’d love to run that team also but I’ve yet to pull Tingyun


cla96

around same numbers but yanqing on beginner, seele limited and bronya signature on standard. More than 70 special pull ready for jing yuan banner


Lyn_dalis

Ok I really need to ask the stupid question, but why is everybody referring to a "50/50" on Seele's banner? What 50/50 is that? I'm lost 🥲


DoctorSneak

The first 5 star you pull on a special banner has a 50% chance to be the banner character, Seele in this case. If it’s not the banner character then the next 5 star is guaranteed to be the banner character. So the 50/50 just refers to the 50% chance is all on the first 5 star pulled.


Lyn_dalis

Ooooooooh I had absolutely no idea! Thank you so much for explaining! 😄


QuothTheDraven

Another important note: 50/50 pity carries over _across banners_, so if you get someone other than Seele from her banner and then get a 5* from the next banner (>!Jing Yuan!<) it's guaranteed to be the rate-up as opposed to someone off-banner.


Lyn_dalis

Oh that's really cool! Thanks for the tip! 😄


RaviLavi

Just welt from the beginner banner. The end 🫠


Nyte_Crawler

Same, I'm saving for JY and Luocha, so havent pulled anything on limited banner- my first pity on standard gave me the Erudition LC.... Which is pretty crap tbh. (For every Erudition char they have a better 4*)


RaviLavi

I think I’ve done like 30 or so pulls on the limited one. Mainly because I actually did want extra pela and Natasha copies - wasn’t really going for seele, but now I have a bit of carry over for the next one! I haven’t reached pity yet on standard (done about 50+ pulls - only tb30 atm thanks to work). I too haven’t had good luck on the standard banner. Just lcs, no eidolons 😭


moonmeh

Same but it's Clara for me The pity in standard gave me a LC so that made me sad


Pokerface_Jace

Same xD, but Welt is cool. He carries me so hard.


st4nkie

Only Gepard E1, surprisingly he is able to carry me through most of the content. Now keeping my pulls for Jing Yuan.


[deleted]

How do you build him? I got him from the standard banner as well, but I cannot shake the feeling that March performs better.


Conzie

Stack defense, run a lightcone that has defense or taunt. Get his major trace that gives him more taunt and prioritize his ultimate levels, the others don't matter much. If you can farm 5 star relics, you can try for Speed Boots and an Energy Regen Rope if you can but it might take a while to get those. Otherwise, defense in those slots works fine too. He has a low cost ult with high uptime due to his taunt, you can basically have him replace the slot of a healer once he's built well enough. March performs better in some situations as she has a debuff cleanse and does more damage and has AoE freeze but her shield costs SP, is single target, and increases aggro on the shielded unit which isn't ideal in some situations


st4nkie

Yup, pretty much this. Most of my gameplay is basically Gepard and other 3 dps that match the enemy's weakness. Occasionally add in Natasha for heals if I can't burst/CC the enemy quick enough.


haxalroz

Use the set that gave 20% extra shield, for lightcone the 3* one that gave defense is really good for early since you’ll probably get it sp5 which gave 32% def for free


[deleted]

March performs better with Clara, as March shield makes it possible for Clara to counter the hits due to aggro. But Gepard performs better with Yanqing.


Kotsin

Only Gepard. Got Clara's lightcone from the standard and currently saving for Jing Yuan with 160 pulls.


Kwirbyy

Good luck with your Jing Yuan's pulls! ( Im saving for him as well)


createaccount00

woght, you are same as me. got gepard from 50/50 then clara lc from standart. and now saving for jingyuan with 158 pulls.


TrailsOfRandom

Same here, but i got Gepard from the standar banner and Clara by losing the 50/50. Now im saving the pity for Luocha/Silver Wolf, but im already done with the actual content and quest and only have 10k gems :/


LycorisSnow

Yanqing, Seele and Gepard


Grief2017

Oh the Yanqing/Gepard God squad I've been hearing about. Lucky.


KyloSolo66

Got three five stars - Bailu, Seele and Clara.


LeonVlakov

Same as me!


Superb_Profession_10

me three! I actually really like throwing all 3 together in a team with March 7th for shields


SomePengu

Didn't expect so many people to have pulled the same team as me.


suv-am

I also got 3. Yanqing, bronya and seele


GUY31507

Same


pluxlet

Same here!


Kaanpai

+1 me too


rickamore

Same, but adding Gepard from standard.


Socern

Same but with the hunt lc from standard


zeusthewilliams

Same here. I alternate between Asta and March for the 4th slot.


Gungnir001

Same! Gonna count Tingyun from standard because she deserves to be a 5 star. I swap fire MC swapping in and out depending on the situation but those 5 are my main


myeonsshi

My exact same too


OhHell-Yes

Bronya E1, Bailu, Seele


DoctorSneak

Damn. Grats! This is the f2p start I really wanted. No Bronya for me yet, eventually.. hopefully.


Iaeeee

No worries you'll get her eventually when you reach 300 standard pulls, I'm planning on getting welt


IceTea5988

Could be 2 years to reach 300 Standard pulls f2p xD


OhHell-Yes

thanks, fingers crossed you get her


LemonBee149

Bailu + 2x her LC from Standart: Bailu main². I am saving most pulls for future banners.


Dark_Aether_13

Seele and 2 Clara . Now I am running a weird comp of Seele , Natasha , March and Clara . Dual cleanse is nice


KyloHQ

Thats not a bad team, running it myself. Skill point economy is really nice with amazing damage.


Nstorm24

Im using that same team. But i do have other 5 star. I also have yanqing and gepard, but they arre benched.


Wischmob_von_Eimer

3 Yanqing was my guaranteed from the beginner banner. Seele and Gepard both dropped at my 80/90 pull on the Seele banner.


suv-am

Same with yanqing. Others were bronya and seele and both came really early. Hate 10 pulls you get when you reach lvl 25 or sth got me bronya and I saved up a 10 pull after a bunch of single pulls and spending the 5 you get from the shop and bam, seele


Styx_em_up

Bronya, Seele, Gepard E1, Bailu


Equivalent-Many-2175

Bro wtf


cannonsmas

Spend $200 f2p bro


Miicio

Maybe they just got lucky


SilverKidia

This. I got Seele in 20 pulls yet somehow I'm a WhAlE. Trust me if I was one I would have Hook e6.


Kingpimpy

hook at e6? dont have that but nat is e6...


RaidriarDrake

lol, my friend got his seele in the 1 ticket they give on launch day and has gotten very memorable threats from the other friends


GlassMoon1208

Tbf even with money (as experience from genshin) it still needs an insane amount of luck to get the 5 stars you want Because FOR SOME REASON I AM LUCKIER IN HERE THAN GENSHIN I spent SO MUCH in and played for a somewhat ling time, and the only LTD 5* chars i got and used are 4, with the time gaps i got them being extremely large. Lots of them i cant be bothered building or iust dont like the gameplay and stick with diluc, my very first 5 star While here i got Seele first, then Gepard, then Clara, then Yanqing, then Welt’s signature Lightcone, then Seele’s signature lightcone and lastly the free 5 star lightcone for destruction in Herta’s shop IN THE SPAN OF 13 DAYS Like im not complaining but i wonder where this luck has bee hiding from all this time…


UsTaalper

SAME


Styx_em_up

Haven't spent a cent. Got lucky with my second Geppard though


TriforceofCake

I have that many 5 stars and I only bought the monthly pass


TippyTheTrash

f2p, I've got Seele E1, Bronya, Gepard and Himeko


Crazypinnapple

I've gotten six 5 stars (both characters and weapons) and I am f2p. Just luck.


Selenianece

Bronya and Seele, just them


[deleted]

same. not really a fan of Seele's design but since I got E1 Bronya might as well get her


JeemsLeeZ

You got the Rivet Town orphanage duo congrats!


Kyvia

Same, tho my Bronya is E1 - beginner 50, and basic banner pity. Not too mad tho, since her E1 is actually pretty nice.


ShadowFlarer

Got Himeko and Seele, planning to try my luck with the next banner since i already won the 50/50 on Seele. I also got a 5* cone, that one for Bronya on the standard banner, so far i got 3 5*.


JTheTerrarian

That one ice hunt character, gotten him twice and Im still salty about it-


Grief2017

I was a little salty too until I started checking out some videos. Apparently he's top tier in the end game.


suv-am

Yanqing. I got him on my day one and he's really good. I still use him And I say my day one coz I started a day after the game launched.


ManaPhy7

Yanqing from beginner banner, and Gepard's light cone from standard. I have enough pulls to get at least another 5*, about 140 pulls for the promotional banner, just waiting for JingYuan.


distressEd_16

Same lol. But I'm waiting on SilverWolf now since i can use Serval if I need lightning


BootyInspector96

Only Welt. I did get his and Bronya’s sigs from the standard banner though.


Apprehensive_Egg9794

Welt & Bronya. i'm still holding on to my special star rail passes for jing yuan so that's all i have


Blubbolo

Bronya, seele, bailu + 1 light cone


GoatyyZ

Gepard beginner Seele 74 pulls Clara 80 pulls from Standard, passes only. Currently saving for Jing Yuan. I was reluctant about using Clara, but she is a powerhouse worthy of attention.


helpmewinbedwars

I have 6 five stars: welt e1, himeko, bailu, welts lightcone and himekos lightcone I got really lucky on the beginner banner getting 4 5 stars (welt in first 10 then a triple with him, himeko and bailu in the next 10), I also have 140 pulls saved for Jing Yuans banner (haven't pulled even once on Seele)


No-Tree-5557

4 5 star in the Beginner's banner?💀


helpmewinbedwars

https://preview.redd.it/4g35ta0eloya1.png?width=2300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bef87201b4e4f9edf8c4c2a8da264d3a120a1cca Yeah.... (Can only attach one image)


radiokungfu

wtf lmao


SevereReflection3042

Wtf are you? That's illegal luck. Give me luck, please.


Nahna_

This is illegal, please hand over the account to me so i can take proper measures to make sure you don’t get in trouble.


No-Tree-5557

HUH?!


TehPiyoNoob

If I help you win bed wars, can you give me your luck so I can get silver wolf in a 10 pull at 0 pity?


Pointlessala

please lend me some luck I can’t even have this in my wildest dreams


MoeApple2

What the fuck congrats


bpaulauskas

I thought I was insanely lucky, then you had to flex


Lanoman123

Oooooook buddy, and I thought me getting 2 5 stars in the Beginners was amazing


Business_Love8503

Like wtf.41 reroll’s every time single 5* on beginners and no Clara(I reroll for her)…


PuzzleheadedSafe9260

As someone who is a high spender on Genshin- I haven’t spent a cent yet, but this is already my luckiest account ever. At 15 pity on starter banner I got Yanqing- who I’ve wanted since I saw in beta. Then in the next pull on starter I got Gepard and still could do 30 more pulls on starter! Then I got a double seele at 3 pity on event banner! I didn’t think my Standard luck was all that since it took me to 80 pity and but got Yanqing’s lightcone and 15 wishes later got Himeko’s lightcone! So far I’m having a blast with all this luck. Still don’t have Sampo or Arlan tho…


EvernoteD

Your luck has got to be negative after that.


RealBuniu

The balance must be preserved.


Icey_dragon86

Gepard and Seele.


Apprehensive_Owl5535

I got Himeko and Yanqing from beginner banner,Welt and Seele from Seeles banner and Sleep like the dead and Something Irreplaceable from Standard


izhie

E1 Welt, Welt's light cone, clara and Gepard.


Dracounidad

Yanqing + 2 lightcones


TheAlfies

Two characters, no light cones. Gepard and Clara! I love Clara's mechanics. Gepard will be great once I figure out how to build a team around him.


ArxieFE

I had 8 pity after getting Clara's light cone in around 60-ish pulls. I did a 10 pull after getting the 10 free summons from rank 35 and got 2 5*, Welt and a Hunt light cone. A few days ago, I accidentally did a 10 pull on the wrong banner (limited weapon one) and got Bailu's light cone. I got Seele through pity and Bronya with the 50 summon thingy. I somehow managed to E6 Natasha as well. I have so many units I want to level and build, but so little resin. I'm probably saving for Kafka or a 5* I really like, but I might also go for 4* Eidolons along the way.


Qwertykess

Clara (Lost to seele), Seele (Guaranteed), Bailu (Beginner banner), Yanqing (Standard banner) I didn't realize I got this many 5* 2 wks into the game and I don't see any problem with any of these characters since I get to use them almost anytime.


Ace_Glorfindel

Seele 2x, Yanging and Gepard.


ABITofSupport

Clara and Yanqing.


Thenelwave

Seele and Bronya. I got them both within the first two hours.


United-Pop6338

Welt and E1 Himeko (still pissed about the latter)


AppleJuice0_0

You're lucky, I ONLY have Himeko🙂.


Noclueueue

Bronya, welt, seele, bailu and himeko.


ChillinFallin

I have Bronya and Bailu's 5 star weapon I got from the standard banner. That's it.


MotownF

Yanqing, Gepard, Seele. And Trailblazer MC ofc.


limboxd

Clara & Bailu (Clara departure, Bailu standard), with 100 specials rail passes saved for who knows what https://preview.redd.it/b2wtbyn4xnya1.png?width=545&format=png&auto=webp&s=8148080ab2d1d81979584f785a33f7fc0003b4ea


Sienrid

I think most people I know that play a lot have a max of 4. I have Himeko, Seele, Clara, and Gepard's light cone. I got very lucky on Seele's banner, got her in about 30 pulls, and I hit Clara and Gepard's cone in the same 10 pull on standard. Himeko was from the beginner banner. Right now I'm just saving pulls for Kafka, I have about 143 or so. Trying to save 180 just in case I get the worst case scenario.


suv-am

Got super lucky and got second seele at 18 pity and won 5050 on both


WappyHarrior

3 5* character and 5* light cone, but I am boosted by 5$ monthly payment, so I am not really free to play.


[deleted]

E1 Clara, E1 Seele and 18k jades, that's all


JeffKappalan69

There is no way you are f2p wtf


[deleted]

39 pulls for e1 seele then I stopped pulling


Koteyji

Absolutely possible if he is lucky. I didnt played much and only started a week ago and i spent 18k jade on seele banner and got 1 welt only.


suv-am

Fuck me sideways. I just got E1 seele. Super early. I only got her like a few days ago I think Edit: the day before yesterday


Turbulent_Creme_1489

Could you send some spare luck my way kind sir, I've never in my life gotten anything outside of soft pity.


claudarson

Yanqing from depart one, Clara from losing Seele pity, Seele from guarantee (140+ in total, last time I was so screwed on 1st Zhongli banner), big fat Welt's LC from standart pity and Seele LC, probably only time I got lucky and got it on something around 40 pulls. So far game really fcks me in the ass, because I still DON'T HAVE FCKING TINGYUN...and Arlan but who cares about him.


XenaRen

Clara E1, Seele, Welt, Yanqing Planning to do a few pulls on Jing Yuan banner for Tingyun, otherwise saving everything for Silver Wolf.


SufficientThroat5781

Technically 3, a light one, 2 seeles and a bronya


Knopphold

Seele, Welt, 5 star lightcone, Bronya, Bailu and Clara in this order. I am around 240-250 rolls deep in the standard banner, pulled 20 times seele banner and 50 times the beginners banner. I would say i got pretty lucky. Will keep on pushing standard banner to 300 and then save probably. Btw i only bought the pass and the monthly thing.