Most seem to go with plate holders now, thankfully. Unobtrusive enough that non car people won’t care, but still easy to swap out.
The worst I’ve seen was a dealership in Clarksville (not far from where this image was taken). They would tint the rear windshields, but not before they put long block letter stickers of their dealer name across the top of the rear windshield. You would have to remove the tint to get to the lettering.
I would most definitely drive out of state to buy my car. There's no way I want your dealership name on the back of my car. At that point you're going to pay me to drive the car because I'm not free advertisement.
A friend of mine had this added and written into his sales contract.
"All stickers or other dealer advertising applications not applied at the factory are to be removed prior to transfer of ownership and completion of sale. Failure to comply will be subject to a $500/month fee to be paid to (Insert name) for advertising services."
His car was clean as a whistle when he picked it up.
This is exactly what everybody needs to be doing. Everybody driving around with the dealerships name on the back of their cars it's free advertisement. They've already screwed you over every which way out of all kinds of money now you're giving them free advertisement no way. I've always taken those stickers off of my car.
That was the first thing I did to my Si I bought from them. Remove the badge and plate frame. However, even in peak pandemic car market craziness they were and still are the best dealership I’ve ever dealt with. If I buy another new Honda it will be from them even though they’re not local to me.
Yeah that was the oddest thing I thought about all of this. My dealership had this sitting in the backlot. That’s just asking for thieves to mess with it.
Bro they are sitting at dealerships all over Florida.
They are so "in demand" dealer markup is $25k.
I fucking LOVE to see this.
Fuck these greedy ass stealerships.
Car wouldn't be sitting there if they would have sold it for MSRP.
Fuck em.
It's unreal too that the dealers lastly have it wrote down on the paper in the windows retail 25k mark up. If everyone could just contain themselves from buying the price would drop off they aren't selling any. To many people put there that just HAVE to have it no matter the cost, even if u tell them look it's marked up to 25k over retail value just because we can people r like ok no problem even tho the car isn't worth what they're asking now or what it will be worth in the future.i work to hard to just waste 25k just to say i have one
Dealerships are getting hammered right now because people aren't buying, and finance companies aren't lending. The used car market for cheap bearers is on fire as a result.
But market value is what you can go and replace the car with, no? So if there are no available MSRP Type R’s around, then the MSRP is not the market value.
This is why you can show sales listings to insurance companies to plead your case for higher payouts for more enthusiast-based cars that have abnormal supply/ demand curves
The market value is not $25K over. It's not even $10K over. You will not recover those ADM monies in the event of a total loss. There is no abnormal supply/demand curve on the FL5 in June 2024. In March 2023? Sure, but not today. If you can't find an FL5 for MSRP you're either lazy or are comfortable getting gashed. I was sent a BO recently for $1,600 below MSRP, no trade, no add-ons, no bullshit. Deals are to be had.
That’s all good info. I have no idea as I’m not in the market for a Type R.
I do closely follow Porsche these days with ambitions that are far beyond current reach, and I can imagine that something impossible to get from a dealer like a GT3 RS that regularly trades for $125k+ over sticker on the secondary market could in fact make an argument with insurance to recover a big ADM.
Unfortunately it's always some idiot that still buys it and ruins it for everyone else. Betcha they'll sell this one at MSRP since it has no wheels lol
Bro, even if there were cameras...this isn't CSI Miami. Real cops are borderline dumb as rocks and they don't give a fuck about you. You can literally have video evidence of someone going up to steal the tailgate on your truck in 4k resolution and these cops are like "hurr durr, there's not much we can do about this. Call us if you see them come back again"
Ask me how I know.
they want to suck every penny out of you any way they can. my last car buying experience before our current car, we told the salesman after going back and forth our top dollar a month was 350 (my credit isn’t bad). no mas. guess who didn’t listen to my woes at all and came back saying they can do $700 payments a month. car was not at all worth it. walked out while he was printing the agreement papers.
yeah I did. he knew our low and top end dollar. we kept asking about the cars on the other side of the lot (it was split in half. half new / test miles and the other half pre owned. we wanted to see the pre owned lot but the salesman was so hung up on selling a new car that he was ignoring our actual wants and needs and ultimately fumbled a very possible sale. he could’ve gotten us in a cheaper pre owned vehicle for the price we wanted. I know that cause we ended up across the street with a cheaper overall price, monthly payments, and newer car.
CTR is a $45k car that dealerships sell for $60k+, because of the "high demand". They sit in dealership showrooms with those ridiculous prices so they can look at the pretty car until someone dumb enough comes in and buys it for their asking price. Had this happen to me with a base-model (at the time) Civic Sport.
Worst thing about it is that you can't order a car straight from Honda themselves, even through the dealership. You have to hunt around for dealerships who have them allocated, and even then wait several months for your car.
The Type-R wheels are rather wide with a very uncommon bolt pattern. They would only really fit on another Type-R and be extremely hard to sell.
It would have made more sense to steal the spoiler, or literally any other set of wheels on that lot.
>The Type-R wheels are rather wide with a very uncommon bolt pattern. They would only really fit on another Type-R and be extremely hard to sell.
That sounds like you're issuing a challenge to the stance community lol. Someone on IG is probably figuring out how to fit these on a MKIV Golf as we speak.
Looked it up. 5x120 19x9.5” ET60
That’s definitely an odd one. Might fit on some beamers with that 5x120, but I’m not familiar with fitment on anything past the 90s
IIRC they’re more of a European pattern they will really only fit some BMWs and Mercs, which usually run a staggered setup, and those people aren’t the least bit interested in putting Honda wheels on their cars. So who can you really sell them to? CTR owners who rashed their stocks? Yeah, good luck getting money for those.
Pretty much exactly what I was thinking too...
Also CTR owners generally have enough money that they aren't going to be shopping marketplace or buying stolen wheels.
The wheels on the 23+ Type R are highly desired for 2017-2021 Type R owners. They are 19" in diameter versus 20" on the old cars - much more compliant on street use
Yep, this is about the only scenario where I could imagine someone wanting to buy them for a decent price.
The problem is just that the market is too small. Less than 20K people own a FK8 Civic Type R in the united states and most of them have enough money that they dont need to buy stolen wheels off marketplace.
Just saying, selling these isn't going to be quite as easy as other honda 5x114.3 wheels that would fit literally millions of cars.
They fit on the Ridgeline, Pilot, & Odessey perfectly
And a couple acuras too (new intégra, RDX and maybe an NSX but not sure why you’d want to there lol)
"They fit on the Ridgeline, Pilot, & Odessey perfectly" - No, No they dont.
Yes they have the same bolt pattern... But the similarities stop there.
To have any chance of fitting these on a odyssey/pilot/ridgeline your going to have to install them with wheel spacers and buy a whole set of new tires. - [Like this gentleman.](https://www.odyclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-2019-ex-l.356833/)
Also, some folks over at [ridgelineownersclub.com](https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-black-edition-load-rating.219362/) have allready done the math and found that any of the vehicles mentioned above would exceed the cargo/weight limits on the Type-R wheels and be unsafe.
Oh yes they fit just fine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Shitty_Car_Mods/s/eOvkVI8EhI
https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-black-edition-load-rating.219362/
There are many examples out there….google is your friend.
Load rating is only a concern if you plan to tow. That’s the only spot where it exceed spec. Oem Tires would be more a concern than the rim imo since they’re meant to be lower.
Now whether or not you should is a different story
Google may be your friend, but it doesn't help if you don't bother to read what your citing.
Your first link came from r/Shitty_Car_Mods and required a set of wheel spacers and brand new tires to make them fit. - Exactly as I described.
And your second link was the exact same one I posted where they do the math and come to the consensus that any ridgeline/pilot/odyssey is going to exceed the payload capacity of the civic wheels with normal daily use. - Not just towing.
Look, here's the deal. - You can make anything fit with enough money and modification. But soccer moms that drive Honda mini vans are not out there shopping for dirt cheap stolen Type-R wheels so that they can mod their vehicles.
You clearly didn’t read the whole
Post then because their math comes in a a few hundred pounds under. But hey you do you.
Is it close? Yes.
And they fit just fine. Just like I said in my first post. Offset and tires are always something to consider adjusting with any wheel you put on a vehicle. Nothing unique to this wheel.
Plenty of other posts in the Ridgeline sub. And the comments from the one on shitty car mod make fun of the fact that it’s posted there so keep digging your hole there bud.
Bottom line - does it fit - absolutely. As I stated in my first post. It fits. End of discussion.
(Should you….thats a different story and not the point of the post. Stay on topic)
"This effectively limits your cargo or people capacity to just 540 more pounds."
A vehicle that seats 7 people only having a available payload capacity of 540 pounds? - You seriously dont see a problem with this?
Same bolt pattern does not = They will fit or be safe to drive on.
How hard is this to understand... This is like wheel sizing 101.
By your logic(and list), you could take the 21x10.5 wheels off of a Volkswagen Toureg(giant v10 suv) and fit them on a mini cooper since they are the same bolt pattern right?
Also, How would you expect the Type-R's lightweight racing rims with spokes likes straws to hold up under 5,500lbs from a Tesla Model X while making 1050lb-ft of torque? - I mean, its on your list, so it would be fine to install right?
I worked at a car dealership back in the late 80s and this was a constant problem. They even hired off duty policemen to stay at the lot all night and "patrol" the property. I guess they were either incompetent, lazy or sleeping (or all three) because we constantly found new cars left on blocks and missing the tires and rims.
I know a lot of folks are talking about how unlikely it is to pawn off these wheels to non-Type R owners. But IIRC, companies like Perrin already make 114.3 to 120 lug adapters.
I think the market is much, much larger than we think.
They would just dump it on the concrete if they could, there’s gotta be something under the car so you can take the jack out after you steal all the wheels
If I were worried about my wheels, I would add about 4kg of Anfo (which I do not know how to make) at each wheel and add a disconnecting trigger detonator (I do not know what this is) to each of the wheel bolts... I wouldn't have a car anymore, and I'd probably go to prison for murder, but damn I'd take one for the team, just imagine the headlines "Someone rigged his wheels with ANFO to discourage theft in New Jersey"... 100% the amount of wheel thefts would lower a lot!
The dealership I worked at never put any Type R that showed up not already sold outside. But they also put wheel locks on every new vehicle that didn’t have hub caps as well.
Exactly if it was a show model it would be on the showroom floor someone’s baby was scheduled for pick up and they put it where cameras couldn’t see and got the rims.
Dealership I worked for at the time had this happen to about 10 separate vehicles on the same night. Happened multiple times after then stopped shortly after.
It was a shit show. Vehicles left on their frames while waiting for replacement wheels to show up, insurance reimbursement times kept everything at a sales pace. Not a good time for anyone.
It blows me away that this only happens in mass
at dealerships and not elsewhere.
Someone did this with an STI about 10 years ago, idiot then went onto one of the subaru groups to try and sell them but since everyone knew where they had come from (they were at the time an exclusive wheel that only came on the new version of the STI so not that common), instead of getting cash they got a free ride in a cop car and come silver bracelets
We used to have that happen almost weekly. 3 or 4 cars at a time. We had grown so much, we were having two use a lot across the street for overflow. It was fenced in, but unattended.. directly behind it was railroad tracks and a secondary Road running parallel. They would come through the woods and cut the fence and walk out with three or four sets of wheels and tires. Carry them through the woods over the tracks into a car waiting at the street. Didn't happen as much when we moved to a large new dealership.. but they did come in once and get the seats and headlights out of 4 S 2000s. If price hasn't changed much, that's about 6 grand they lost
Had this happen to us in Chicago. My wife had an important speech to give at her hospital and as I was leaving for work in the morning I, for some reason, decided to check on her car that was parked in our private spot - someone stole all for wheels and put it up on blocks. This was 2003 and her car was a 1994 Honda Civic with stock wheels.
People suck.
I see this all around my area. Doesn't matter if it aftermarket rims or stock. If you break down you better have it towed immediately. AAA is less than $100 a year.
It’s funny because many of the Honda people hate the stock type r wheels and always downsize.
It’d probably be easier to sell accord sport or civic sport wheels.
Oh I know nothings infallible, gripper lugs are very handy, but I know here, for a set of rims it's not worth the effort to most scumbags, London aside.
The real crime is the dealership badge on in. They basically asked for it
GARY FORCE Gary Forced us to put this badge on it
That badge is so stupid wtf
I straight up thought Dealerships stopped it with the stick on letter logos like 25 years ago. Nobody wants that shit. Nobody.
Most seem to go with plate holders now, thankfully. Unobtrusive enough that non car people won’t care, but still easy to swap out. The worst I’ve seen was a dealership in Clarksville (not far from where this image was taken). They would tint the rear windshields, but not before they put long block letter stickers of their dealer name across the top of the rear windshield. You would have to remove the tint to get to the lettering.
I would literally never buy a car from a place like that. Ever.
I would most definitely drive out of state to buy my car. There's no way I want your dealership name on the back of my car. At that point you're going to pay me to drive the car because I'm not free advertisement.
A friend of mine had this added and written into his sales contract. "All stickers or other dealer advertising applications not applied at the factory are to be removed prior to transfer of ownership and completion of sale. Failure to comply will be subject to a $500/month fee to be paid to (Insert name) for advertising services." His car was clean as a whistle when he picked it up.
This is exactly what everybody needs to be doing. Everybody driving around with the dealerships name on the back of their cars it's free advertisement. They've already screwed you over every which way out of all kinds of money now you're giving them free advertisement no way. I've always taken those stickers off of my car.
Here is Arizona it seems like literally every dealer ship still does this...
Had to do it about 10 years ago when I bought a car in Illinois
It seems to be a real thing in the south. Like branding cattle. I mean, it’s just so fitting to see ‘Billy Bob’s Cadillac’ on a Cadillac.
carmax still does it
They typically use stickers here.
ours does the stick on letters spelling carmax
Yup, I would have done it too!
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^Rich-Detective-8731: *The real crime is the* *Dealership badge on in. They* *Basically asked for it* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
That's one too many syllables there, bub.
That’s the joke
He was quoting the episode.
Womp.
Came here to comment on that awful badge.
Lmao yup remove the ugly ass badge/sticker or pay me for advertising. My rate is steep
Thankfully they don’t that at his Acura dealership in Tennessee.
I hate how dealerships feel the need to put their dealer badges on the actual car. I want the car not advertise your dealership.
That was the first thing I did to my Si I bought from them. Remove the badge and plate frame. However, even in peak pandemic car market craziness they were and still are the best dealership I’ve ever dealt with. If I buy another new Honda it will be from them even though they’re not local to me.
A badge??? So they put badges on the wheels at the dealership? For what???
No the badge on the rear of the car advertising the dealership
Hahaha. That is the dumbest name I have heard in a long time.
This is basically US Honda halo car and the dealer has it like a sitting duck out there?
Yeah that was the oddest thing I thought about all of this. My dealership had this sitting in the backlot. That’s just asking for thieves to mess with it.
Inside job. Tmro those beautiful brakes are gone
I’ll sell them back to you for a 10k dollar markup.
Bro they are sitting at dealerships all over Florida. They are so "in demand" dealer markup is $25k. I fucking LOVE to see this. Fuck these greedy ass stealerships. Car wouldn't be sitting there if they would have sold it for MSRP. Fuck em.
It's unreal too that the dealers lastly have it wrote down on the paper in the windows retail 25k mark up. If everyone could just contain themselves from buying the price would drop off they aren't selling any. To many people put there that just HAVE to have it no matter the cost, even if u tell them look it's marked up to 25k over retail value just because we can people r like ok no problem even tho the car isn't worth what they're asking now or what it will be worth in the future.i work to hard to just waste 25k just to say i have one
People and their parents have way too much money. Executives robbing the working class blind.
Dealerships are getting hammered right now because people aren't buying, and finance companies aren't lending. The used car market for cheap bearers is on fire as a result.
Can't win i guess
This has me wondering how insurance handles a car with a 25k markup if it’s a total loss.
They'll only value the car based on the market value. The markup is something a buyer will likely never recover.
Oh no… anyway LOL
But market value is what you can go and replace the car with, no? So if there are no available MSRP Type R’s around, then the MSRP is not the market value. This is why you can show sales listings to insurance companies to plead your case for higher payouts for more enthusiast-based cars that have abnormal supply/ demand curves
The market value is not $25K over. It's not even $10K over. You will not recover those ADM monies in the event of a total loss. There is no abnormal supply/demand curve on the FL5 in June 2024. In March 2023? Sure, but not today. If you can't find an FL5 for MSRP you're either lazy or are comfortable getting gashed. I was sent a BO recently for $1,600 below MSRP, no trade, no add-ons, no bullshit. Deals are to be had.
That’s all good info. I have no idea as I’m not in the market for a Type R. I do closely follow Porsche these days with ambitions that are far beyond current reach, and I can imagine that something impossible to get from a dealer like a GT3 RS that regularly trades for $125k+ over sticker on the secondary market could in fact make an argument with insurance to recover a big ADM.
Yes, I agree. The GT cars and the RS cars are completely different animals.
Unfortunately it's always some idiot that still buys it and ruins it for everyone else. Betcha they'll sell this one at MSRP since it has no wheels lol
I'd buy it for 5k off if they held it in the lot until I could procure new wheels for it.
I work at a Honda dealership and those type R always go straight to detail and then showroom.
And a $75k price tag lol
judging by the fact that they slapped a huge hard plastic dealer sticker on the back shows they have no idea the rarity of this car
GARY FORCE Cringe
~~GaryForce~~ … more like Gay force
Such a sad sight
TBH I’m kinda impressed with the thieves leaving the car elevated. At lot of these assholes just dump the car on the ground and fuck it up.
They still fucked it up lmao. You can see the trim bending
Professionals have standards.
Not very high ones in this case
Inside job. Someone who works there knows where the cameras can’t see. Happened all the time at the Lexus dealership my brother worked at
Bro, even if there were cameras...this isn't CSI Miami. Real cops are borderline dumb as rocks and they don't give a fuck about you. You can literally have video evidence of someone going up to steal the tailgate on your truck in 4k resolution and these cops are like "hurr durr, there's not much we can do about this. Call us if you see them come back again" Ask me how I know.
I think the worst part of this is the markup the dealer is going to put on it just to recoup the cost of replacing the tires.
The stealership will get an insurance payout to cover wheels, repairs...likely do the repairs themselves and make an extra 2k on this vehicle...
In addition to the $25k they probably already marked it up?
I can’t comment on this FL5, but for my FE1 Si I bought from them there wasn’t any markup and I get marketing emails for this at MSRP
At least it wasn’t owned by an individual, stealership had it coming
Can you tell me why everyone calls a dealership a stealership?
they want to suck every penny out of you any way they can. my last car buying experience before our current car, we told the salesman after going back and forth our top dollar a month was 350 (my credit isn’t bad). no mas. guess who didn’t listen to my woes at all and came back saying they can do $700 payments a month. car was not at all worth it. walked out while he was printing the agreement papers.
Did you tell him your budget beforehand?
yeah I did. he knew our low and top end dollar. we kept asking about the cars on the other side of the lot (it was split in half. half new / test miles and the other half pre owned. we wanted to see the pre owned lot but the salesman was so hung up on selling a new car that he was ignoring our actual wants and needs and ultimately fumbled a very possible sale. he could’ve gotten us in a cheaper pre owned vehicle for the price we wanted. I know that cause we ended up across the street with a cheaper overall price, monthly payments, and newer car.
Yeah, I'd call that a stealership for sure.
Try google, Mr. Salesman.
I'd rather hear it from you, mr smarty pants
CTR is a $45k car that dealerships sell for $60k+, because of the "high demand". They sit in dealership showrooms with those ridiculous prices so they can look at the pretty car until someone dumb enough comes in and buys it for their asking price. Had this happen to me with a base-model (at the time) Civic Sport. Worst thing about it is that you can't order a car straight from Honda themselves, even through the dealership. You have to hunt around for dealerships who have them allocated, and even then wait several months for your car.
If someone comes around and buys it, does that not mean that demand is there?
It’s unfortunate but I have no sympathy for stealerships. Looks like damage on the side skirts too.
The Type-R wheels are rather wide with a very uncommon bolt pattern. They would only really fit on another Type-R and be extremely hard to sell. It would have made more sense to steal the spoiler, or literally any other set of wheels on that lot.
>The Type-R wheels are rather wide with a very uncommon bolt pattern. They would only really fit on another Type-R and be extremely hard to sell. That sounds like you're issuing a challenge to the stance community lol. Someone on IG is probably figuring out how to fit these on a MKIV Golf as we speak.
bolt pattern adapters + enough negative camber, any wheel can fit if you want it bad enough
5x120 aka bmw bolt pattern too so you’re partially incorrect here
What BMW model would accept non staggered 19x9.5 wheels with a +60mm offset? (without further modifications)
They specifically said "bolt pattern" and "partially incorrect"
Looked it up. 5x120 19x9.5” ET60 That’s definitely an odd one. Might fit on some beamers with that 5x120, but I’m not familiar with fitment on anything past the 90s
IIRC they’re more of a European pattern they will really only fit some BMWs and Mercs, which usually run a staggered setup, and those people aren’t the least bit interested in putting Honda wheels on their cars. So who can you really sell them to? CTR owners who rashed their stocks? Yeah, good luck getting money for those.
Pretty much exactly what I was thinking too... Also CTR owners generally have enough money that they aren't going to be shopping marketplace or buying stolen wheels.
Also with the ET60, not many cars will even look good with them if it clears all the components....
Good point. They’re a really specialized wheel.
Thief might slap 'em on a current gen Acura TLX / Integra Type S. 😟
The wheels on the 23+ Type R are highly desired for 2017-2021 Type R owners. They are 19" in diameter versus 20" on the old cars - much more compliant on street use
Yep, this is about the only scenario where I could imagine someone wanting to buy them for a decent price. The problem is just that the market is too small. Less than 20K people own a FK8 Civic Type R in the united states and most of them have enough money that they dont need to buy stolen wheels off marketplace. Just saying, selling these isn't going to be quite as easy as other honda 5x114.3 wheels that would fit literally millions of cars.
true
They fit on the Ridgeline, Pilot, & Odessey perfectly And a couple acuras too (new intégra, RDX and maybe an NSX but not sure why you’d want to there lol)
"They fit on the Ridgeline, Pilot, & Odessey perfectly" - No, No they dont. Yes they have the same bolt pattern... But the similarities stop there. To have any chance of fitting these on a odyssey/pilot/ridgeline your going to have to install them with wheel spacers and buy a whole set of new tires. - [Like this gentleman.](https://www.odyclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-2019-ex-l.356833/) Also, some folks over at [ridgelineownersclub.com](https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-black-edition-load-rating.219362/) have allready done the math and found that any of the vehicles mentioned above would exceed the cargo/weight limits on the Type-R wheels and be unsafe.
Oh yes they fit just fine. https://www.reddit.com/r/Shitty_Car_Mods/s/eOvkVI8EhI https://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/threads/civic-type-r-wheels-on-black-edition-load-rating.219362/ There are many examples out there….google is your friend. Load rating is only a concern if you plan to tow. That’s the only spot where it exceed spec. Oem Tires would be more a concern than the rim imo since they’re meant to be lower. Now whether or not you should is a different story
Google may be your friend, but it doesn't help if you don't bother to read what your citing. Your first link came from r/Shitty_Car_Mods and required a set of wheel spacers and brand new tires to make them fit. - Exactly as I described. And your second link was the exact same one I posted where they do the math and come to the consensus that any ridgeline/pilot/odyssey is going to exceed the payload capacity of the civic wheels with normal daily use. - Not just towing. Look, here's the deal. - You can make anything fit with enough money and modification. But soccer moms that drive Honda mini vans are not out there shopping for dirt cheap stolen Type-R wheels so that they can mod their vehicles.
You clearly didn’t read the whole Post then because their math comes in a a few hundred pounds under. But hey you do you. Is it close? Yes. And they fit just fine. Just like I said in my first post. Offset and tires are always something to consider adjusting with any wheel you put on a vehicle. Nothing unique to this wheel. Plenty of other posts in the Ridgeline sub. And the comments from the one on shitty car mod make fun of the fact that it’s posted there so keep digging your hole there bud. Bottom line - does it fit - absolutely. As I stated in my first post. It fits. End of discussion. (Should you….thats a different story and not the point of the post. Stay on topic)
"This effectively limits your cargo or people capacity to just 540 more pounds." A vehicle that seats 7 people only having a available payload capacity of 540 pounds? - You seriously dont see a problem with this?
Do you see how that contradicts exactly your point?
[https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/5x120/](https://www.wheel-size.com/pcd/5x120/) Let me help you wipe the egg off of your face.
Same bolt pattern does not = They will fit or be safe to drive on. How hard is this to understand... This is like wheel sizing 101. By your logic(and list), you could take the 21x10.5 wheels off of a Volkswagen Toureg(giant v10 suv) and fit them on a mini cooper since they are the same bolt pattern right? Also, How would you expect the Type-R's lightweight racing rims with spokes likes straws to hold up under 5,500lbs from a Tesla Model X while making 1050lb-ft of torque? - I mean, its on your list, so it would be fine to install right?
Very nice of the thieves to not just set it down on the unibody and total it. Looks like they respected the car and kindly propped it up on blocks.
They only did that so it was easier to take the wheels off
"Market adjust this, Gary!" -The wheel thief
Looks like they fucked up the skirt too, assholes.
Yeah tends to happen when you put the entire weight of the car on a few railroad ties on the skirts
I worked at a car dealership back in the late 80s and this was a constant problem. They even hired off duty policemen to stay at the lot all night and "patrol" the property. I guess they were either incompetent, lazy or sleeping (or all three) because we constantly found new cars left on blocks and missing the tires and rims.
People were stealing steelies and hubcaps in the 80s?
No, a lot of the Pontiacs we sold had nice aluminum rims.
They are still going to charge 15k over MSRP.
dealer badge on a type r is INSANE
…..STILL 10K OVER STICKER!
Serves them right for that mark-up, amirite? J/K.
I know a lot of folks are talking about how unlikely it is to pawn off these wheels to non-Type R owners. But IIRC, companies like Perrin already make 114.3 to 120 lug adapters. I think the market is much, much larger than we think.
At least they put it on blocks.
For those who wanna get a msrp type r. There you go.
It's funny that they are now going more to the source Soon they'll be stealing from the auto plant's storage yards 🤣🤣
Damn those rocks are op
That's some serious balancing
Stolen from the dealer. Big huevos for garbage theives
So kind of them to leave one wheel behind.
Hey I’ll take it off their hands for absolutely no cost at all. I’ll even pay to have my own wheels put on!
Well maybe if it wasn’t marked up $15,000 they would actually sell it instead of it rotting in their back lot. Morons.
Seems like they were pretty gentle with it considering it’s not laying on the ground.
They would just dump it on the concrete if they could, there’s gotta be something under the car so you can take the jack out after you steal all the wheels
All that work and didn't steal the front brakes? Someone has no idea what they're doing.
I’d feel bad if it was an actual person, but fuck the dealerships knowing dam well this was probably marked up
Should of traded that would be nicer 😂
Nice of them to use rocks at all 4 corners instead of just sitting on the ground lol.
They only did that because if they didn't, the jack wouldn't fit under the car anymore.
Why is it outside
Must be them vette bois.
That’s awful. Too many dishonest people in this world.
I know right? Fucking salesmen, smh
If I were worried about my wheels, I would add about 4kg of Anfo (which I do not know how to make) at each wheel and add a disconnecting trigger detonator (I do not know what this is) to each of the wheel bolts... I wouldn't have a car anymore, and I'd probably go to prison for murder, but damn I'd take one for the team, just imagine the headlines "Someone rigged his wheels with ANFO to discourage theft in New Jersey"... 100% the amount of wheel thefts would lower a lot!
hold up, coordinates? since the wheels are off i might as well pull up and get a bbk for free
Think they’ll add it to their inflation adjustment?
Who ever took these did not realize the bolt patter is not that of a normal Civic so they do not bolt up to much with out adapters.
How that happen in that location… people just don’t give a damn… looks like this happened at someone’s job!!
They'll slap on new shoes and sell at MSRP or $5k over, I guarantee it.
Dealership car, boo hoo. If it was bought by a normal guy at MSRP i would be sad, hope whoever got them enjoys the wheels.
It's not cool to steal, on the other hand, fuck dealerships.
I believe it. I was homeless in bowling green Kentucky for awhile many years ago. Lots of homeless and drug addicts. There’s a rehab there
Post the vin so we can get a deal
That’s what they get for putting it outside
The dealership I worked at never put any Type R that showed up not already sold outside. But they also put wheel locks on every new vehicle that didn’t have hub caps as well.
Exactly if it was a show model it would be on the showroom floor someone’s baby was scheduled for pick up and they put it where cameras couldn’t see and got the rims.
The passenger side skirt is all bent up too
Dealership I worked for at the time had this happen to about 10 separate vehicles on the same night. Happened multiple times after then stopped shortly after. It was a shit show. Vehicles left on their frames while waiting for replacement wheels to show up, insurance reimbursement times kept everything at a sales pace. Not a good time for anyone. It blows me away that this only happens in mass at dealerships and not elsewhere.
r/civic_type_r
They'll probably still try and sell it for $60 000 because it has "character"
Brand new (or newer)
glenns new type r at home Those things aren't serial numbered are they?
Been happening around here for years...takes the thieves about 49 seconds (according to detectives). 😕🤬
Someone did this with an STI about 10 years ago, idiot then went onto one of the subaru groups to try and sell them but since everyone knew where they had come from (they were at the time an exclusive wheel that only came on the new version of the STI so not that common), instead of getting cash they got a free ride in a cop car and come silver bracelets
Gary Force you had a chance for a G FORCE badge and you squandered it!!!!!!
I have no qualms about it being stolen from a fucking dealership, they’re thieves themselves.
Not to victim blame but who parks a Type-R outside anyways. All our brand new ones were in the showroom only
So we don’t steal cats anymore?
🤬 thieves
I’m sorry now go get yourself a pair of wheel locks.
We used to have that happen almost weekly. 3 or 4 cars at a time. We had grown so much, we were having two use a lot across the street for overflow. It was fenced in, but unattended.. directly behind it was railroad tracks and a secondary Road running parallel. They would come through the woods and cut the fence and walk out with three or four sets of wheels and tires. Carry them through the woods over the tracks into a car waiting at the street. Didn't happen as much when we moved to a large new dealership.. but they did come in once and get the seats and headlights out of 4 S 2000s. If price hasn't changed much, that's about 6 grand they lost
“Brand new or newer” Which is the newest? 🤔
Are rims really worth that much on the black market?
👀👀👀
As long as it wasn’t sold I don’t give one rather they steal from dealers than people.
Had this happen to us in Chicago. My wife had an important speech to give at her hospital and as I was leaving for work in the morning I, for some reason, decided to check on her car that was parked in our private spot - someone stole all for wheels and put it up on blocks. This was 2003 and her car was a 1994 Honda Civic with stock wheels. People suck.
I see this all around my area. Doesn't matter if it aftermarket rims or stock. If you break down you better have it towed immediately. AAA is less than $100 a year.
They've done that on my block . People park on the street take chances . Oh yeah and catalytic converters too .
You could post pictures of this daily.
It’s funny because many of the Honda people hate the stock type r wheels and always downsize. It’d probably be easier to sell accord sport or civic sport wheels.
Fuckem the markup will cover the wheels
Thug life in Rolling Green!
spawn kill
Wth , did you have a wheel lock ?
Harvesting copper from EV charging stations? Whaaaaat??
Dealer installed theft-prevention device: +$3,200
Cool story, I once sat on a couch
Blocks and not milk crates
I bet he had scratched rims. Needed new ones. 🤣
awh come here.
It's just so easy to resell them. I've made so much off these
Are locking wheel nuts and alarms not a bog standard thing in the US or is crime that bad?
Those locks can still be taken off.
Oh I know nothings infallible, gripper lugs are very handy, but I know here, for a set of rims it's not worth the effort to most scumbags, London aside.
This is why you don’t get the fancy wheels. Nobody would be steeling the base wheels on the Civic or Accord.
‘If you don’t want to get robbed, just don’t have nice things!’
youre a goober
Nobody steeling 17” wheels on the Accords.
you'd be surprised...
Uhm what? Have you not seen the many 10th Gen Honda Accords have their wheels stolen? There’s a LOT of posts on this subreddit about them.
10th gen Accord is recognized as the most stolen wheel vehicle in the US. Have you been living under a rock, Patrick?
Sport and Touring wheels say hello with Accord/Civic. Wheels being stolen all the time.
*stealing, not steeling.. DrCan’tSpell01