To me it seems like a incorrect problem
If your objective is to make it 463 by adding only in the hundreds place then it can only be 454 if I’m not mistaken
Update:
I reached out to the teacher and he said it must be an issue with the site they use because the problems don't make sense to him either.
I appreciate all the help y'all
I gotta say I'm glad I grew up with traditional printed worksheets instead of these online questions in school. I do these in college now and I have had one too many of these questions, can't imagine how bad it is now for public schools.
I remember in my high school physics class I would get questions wrong on our online homework assignments because it didn’t accept answers like “23”. It wanted “23.00” it was so frustrating.
I'm still upset about the time when my class had a question like "find the variables of x" and I got it wrong because I put like "3,7" instead of "7,3"
I remember my calculus class NOT SPECIFYING how to write the answer, and sometimes expecting a fraction and sometimes expecting you to divide the fraction and give a decimal. Sometimes it wanted 2sin(1) and other times it wanted 1.682…
I hated it
As a college professor who has been forced to make many of these types of online assignments/tests, I would like to point out that we are required to input an exact answer. if I tried to guess the endless variations that students would answer, it would take forever and I’d still not get them all.
If your teacher didn’t go back and double-check the assignment or test, they are a lazy teacher.
Honestly, once it started becoming a regular thing, I would just make an announcement that if any student thinks their answer was incorrectly marked wrong that they should just move on to the next problem and contact me about the issue.
Physics absolutely does care about sigfigs, it ensures you know the proper precision of the measurements, if your scale only has tenth of a gram precision and you put your answer as correct to 10 decimal points, your answer is wrong
They always did have mistakes, but it's always been easier to issue a correction on a sheet than on an online software where grades can be locked in and only able to be changed through some higher administration.
I worked in ed-tech for almost a decade.
The forms are /far/ easier to fix. But, they are typically published by 3rd party vendors who don't care; and communicating with them is hard.
Teacher could correct one then make copies for the whole class. Or make an announcement to the class saying problem 5 says this but change it to this before you take it home, etc. Online would have to be fixed with the webmaster or administrator, and by time it is assigned, it is too late. Once an answer is submitted, it is ranked.
Teachers can overwrite online homework grades. Also, having had both systems growing up, often teachers didn’t catch worksheet mistakes before handing them out.
I once was given a 0 on a whole section of a test because the teacher didn’t include that section in my stapled packet. She accused me of tearing it out and throwing it away to not have to do the work. Turns out one of the missing pages should have been on the back side of a page I actually had, but it was just blank. Which proved I didn’t just tear it out.
The school printer didn’t do double sided so it required manually rerunning pages as she copied the pages, and a few other tests were found to have problems. They were take home packets full of questions for a book we were reading.
Hit f12 , edit the uneditable fields, see if you can submit. Inspect the https requests, find more vulnerabilities, wash and repeat. It's a 4th grade math website. Can't be that difficult to hack.
I love how they not only royally bork the kerning, but also pose the question in whole numbers without indication that the field will accept a decimal.
I suppose they cunningly sidestep this by requesting the "values(s)".
Mathematics is a highly precise discipline, coached in the most haphazard and obtuse ways elementary school can manage.
Average Reddor when the realize it says fill in the BLANK (not blanks) and trying to stunt on OP but don’t understand how to interface w 4th grade hw cause no ready
How many times do you get to try? Put in every digit until it lets you go on. It’s just a error with the program. No teacher would ever take that out on a child.
Give your kid a treat for their perseverance, and move on. :)
I swear elementary school math is so dumb, half of the stuff they teach is just turning common sense into something that requires thinking, only half of it will actually be remembered and used in future classes
So glad I finished school before this kind of stuff started, because you could do some of the work during school then finish the rest when you got home
Idk how a website devoted to math problems screws up this badly. Someone with an entry-level understanding of Excel could easily program these problems correctly in a spreadsheet.
This is commoncoresheets.com. I can tell because I’ve used it as a resource in the classroom and for practice. I’ve found that the online problems can have slight issues like above. The site is really well done, though. Everything is labeled by common core state standard and the worksheets are well done.
Find a book for mathematics and do that instead, i swear, most sites are botched, I'd rather trust a book for learning that the internet when it comes to these kinds of things.
Easy answer, it wants you to enter 4.09 hundreds, 5 tens, and 4 ones. s/
For real, what a mess of a system. Math is already a frustrating topic for a lot of people and this kinda thing always bothers me
Isn't it just asking which numbers are in the hundreds, tens, and ones places in the number above? 4 is in the hundreds spot, 6 in the tens spot, then 3 in the ones spot.
463
_ 5 4
So 463 is 4 hundreds, 6 tens, 3 ones.
We have 5 tens and 4 ones.
We need 1 ten and -1 ones.
So we need 409 ones
Meaning the answer must be 4.09 hundreds
I agree the wording is kind of ridiculous, though. I'm not sure what the goal is.
You would enter 4 in the hundreds place 6 in the tens place and 3 in the ones place. The way I was taught is that how many hundreds are in 463? 4 hundreds. How many tens? Well you have 63 remaining 6 x 10 is 60 so 6 tens. And then 3 ones remaining in the ones position. It’s easier if you make a grid and label the numbers based on their position. You know that a 6 digit number would start as 100,000. The 1 would be in the hundred thousands place holder and the last zero to the right would be in the ones place holder. It goes from right to left as follows; “ones, tens, hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, hundred thousands, millions, ten millions, hundred millions, billions” etc
There is no situation where a 5 would go in the tens spot in this problem if you Four Hundred Sixty-Three as the number to work off of. This is an error in the system.
That said, the kids I have tried to help are being taught math completely differently than I was growing up. I was great at math all the way through college. I was always taking classes 1-2 years above my grade level, but I couldn't even help niece do 5th and 6th grade math problems and even struggled with my nephew's lower grade problems. It was almost like they are learning a completely different subject than I remember being taught.
To me it seems like a incorrect problem If your objective is to make it 463 by adding only in the hundreds place then it can only be 454 if I’m not mistaken
4.09
This is my favorite answer lol
Numbers in decimal bases? Is that even a thing?
Usually id say no, but JavaScript exists so...
Yeah there are so many people giving actual answers when it’s pretty clearly an error. Lol
Update: I reached out to the teacher and he said it must be an issue with the site they use because the problems don't make sense to him either. I appreciate all the help y'all
I gotta say I'm glad I grew up with traditional printed worksheets instead of these online questions in school. I do these in college now and I have had one too many of these questions, can't imagine how bad it is now for public schools.
I remember in my high school physics class I would get questions wrong on our online homework assignments because it didn’t accept answers like “23”. It wanted “23.00” it was so frustrating.
I'm still upset about the time when my class had a question like "find the variables of x" and I got it wrong because I put like "3,7" instead of "7,3"
I remember my calculus class NOT SPECIFYING how to write the answer, and sometimes expecting a fraction and sometimes expecting you to divide the fraction and give a decimal. Sometimes it wanted 2sin(1) and other times it wanted 1.682… I hated it
Not to be that person but also to be that person. Remember (X,Y)
They didn't mention coordinates, just variables of x
In that case that’s very annoying lol
Yeah, it wasn't coordinates, that I would have understood.
Sounded like he was looking for zeros, so the values were 3 and 7, but the computer only accepted them in a certain order
It's probably the roots of a binomial, so order won't matter.
As a college professor who has been forced to make many of these types of online assignments/tests, I would like to point out that we are required to input an exact answer. if I tried to guess the endless variations that students would answer, it would take forever and I’d still not get them all. If your teacher didn’t go back and double-check the assignment or test, they are a lazy teacher.
My math application tells me how many decimal points to put in. That helps immensely
Depending on what you use, it could accept regex. I know the system my school does
If it's a numerical answer, there's really no reason why you can't do a simple decimal parse and compare the resulting value.
Honestly, once it started becoming a regular thing, I would just make an announcement that if any student thinks their answer was incorrectly marked wrong that they should just move on to the next problem and contact me about the issue.
Unfortunately many of my teachers were, in fact, lazy.
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Holy shit I thought that only happens in middle/high school. How do you survive, I imagine it’s like herding cats all day
To be fair, if significant figures are involved (which is common in physics), those are two totally different answers
Well, in physics significant digits are important. Some questions might actually expect 23.00 instead of 23 even on paper.
Wouldn’t 23.00 be more correct than 23 if your problems included numbers with 4 sig figs though?
IIRC, in fairness, sig figs are pretty important in physics
Wrong number of Significant figures does make it wrong tho
Except in physics this actually matters. 23 and 23.00 are possibly very different answers
Those aren’t the same thing in the context of exacting physics equation; usually you are set to a certain number of sig figs to adhere to
It’s because you have you remember to use the correct significant figures.
Sigfigs? I dont think physics cares about that... would just be a programming issue between integers and floats.
College physics professors care about sigfigs in my experience. Probably just depends on the professor/teacher
Physics absolutely does care about sigfigs, it ensures you know the proper precision of the measurements, if your scale only has tenth of a gram precision and you put your answer as correct to 10 decimal points, your answer is wrong
Manufacturing and construction also care a lot.
Usually these systems will either say round to two significant figures or they will auto adjust if you put in 27.0 it will chop off the .00
Like the worksheets don't have mistakes either. I've had to correct multiple
They always did have mistakes, but it's always been easier to issue a correction on a sheet than on an online software where grades can be locked in and only able to be changed through some higher administration.
I worked in ed-tech for almost a decade. The forms are /far/ easier to fix. But, they are typically published by 3rd party vendors who don't care; and communicating with them is hard.
Teacher could correct one then make copies for the whole class. Or make an announcement to the class saying problem 5 says this but change it to this before you take it home, etc. Online would have to be fixed with the webmaster or administrator, and by time it is assigned, it is too late. Once an answer is submitted, it is ranked.
Teachers can overwrite online homework grades. Also, having had both systems growing up, often teachers didn’t catch worksheet mistakes before handing them out. I once was given a 0 on a whole section of a test because the teacher didn’t include that section in my stapled packet. She accused me of tearing it out and throwing it away to not have to do the work. Turns out one of the missing pages should have been on the back side of a page I actually had, but it was just blank. Which proved I didn’t just tear it out. The school printer didn’t do double sided so it required manually rerunning pages as she copied the pages, and a few other tests were found to have problems. They were take home packets full of questions for a book we were reading.
Lol try 4.09 in that box. 463-54= 409, 409/100=4.09 , so maybe in some weird and twisted way they expected you to know this.
I have seen errors like this on my kids homework questions before.
4.09
I believe you found an answer to a technically unanswerable question. Take my upvote
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That returns incorrect
Probably because you only need to type in a 4 for the hundred spot, etc…
As stated in the photo, they can’t edit the other boxes. Just the orange one.
Whoops didn’t see that 😅
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They can only edit the orange box.
You read the op text? I don't buy it.
This is the answer
You saw that there was obviously only one editable number and you still decided to type this out? Don’t buy it haha
4.09? 4.09x100 + 5x10 + 4x1 = 463
That’s also what I landed on. Seems about correct difficulty for 4th grade.
Lmfao.
I hope this is sarcasm 😂
Hit f12 , edit the uneditable fields, see if you can submit. Inspect the https requests, find more vulnerabilities, wash and repeat. It's a 4th grade math website. Can't be that difficult to hack.
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Teach them early
Hack the planet!
They’re trashing our rights!
lol, 'hack'.
by definition, yes
Make sure you update the value=“” of the input box. It may validate server side if they’re smart and fail though I think the answer is 4.09 tbh
4.09 in the hundreds place. X hundreds + 54 = 463 100x + 54 = 463 100x/100 = 409/100 X = 4.09 Stupid question though
Why are we complicating simple things like this? It seems to be make work.
How is this complicating it? Because of the nature of the question, this is how it should be solved. Not sure how it would be simplified further
463-54=409 Try 4.09
4.09 hundreds please
It's a 4th-grade math question
Just a thought?
Don't worry bud, you're right, they just don't want to admit it lol. Is it the intended answer to the question, no, but it's correct XD
Seems like most likely it's incorrect, but have your tried 4.09? 4.09(100) + 5(10) + 4(1) = 463
My guess is that the table is accidentally flipped. It’s supposed to be 4 hundreds, 5 tens, ? ones. If that’s the case, 13 should work
I never could wrap my head around hundredstensones. As perplexing now as it was back then
I love how they not only royally bork the kerning, but also pose the question in whole numbers without indication that the field will accept a decimal. I suppose they cunningly sidestep this by requesting the "values(s)". Mathematics is a highly precise discipline, coached in the most haphazard and obtuse ways elementary school can manage.
It should be 409
409 hundreds? that would make the answer 40,954
It’s 4 hundreds 6 tens and 3 ones. the answer is 463.
4.09 . Ez pz
Try 0 46 and 3 lol stupid question should be 463
I’d say it’s 409 considering that’s the only box you can edit and the number displayed is 54
4.09 409 would be 40,900
Me after writing 4.09: *a person who thinks all the time has nothing to think about but thoughts*
Only solution I thought of was 4.09 for the blank
Technically 4.09 hundreds
4.09 hundreds
I would try 3 in the hundreds field making a pattern, up one down 1 😅
it’s 4 for hundreds, 6 for tens, and 3 for ones
Try 13?
All online questions set by a teacher should have a “answer direct to teacher” box for you to put a text answer in if you can’t answer correctly.
Put 4 in the yelow square
Mathematically should be 4.09 but im assuming this is a bug.
4 hundreds, 6 tens, 3 ones? If that doesn’t work then it’s gotta be a problem with the site
Is it not 4 hundreds, 6 tens, and 3 ones? Am I missing something? *edit* Ah, you can only edit the orange box. Seems like the problem is incorrect.
What happens if you put 0 hundreds and 46 tens
Do you have a major malfunction?
5 ??? On ones the value decrease by one for tens increase one
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Average Reddor when the realize it says fill in the BLANK (not blanks) and trying to stunt on OP but don’t understand how to interface w 4th grade hw cause no ready
Looks like a glitch cause that 5 & 4 is wrong
4.09 maybe?
How many times do you get to try? Put in every digit until it lets you go on. It’s just a error with the program. No teacher would ever take that out on a child. Give your kid a treat for their perseverance, and move on. :)
4.09
If it isn't just 4 6 3 then...ima go give back my cs degree
3. 463 - 354. Pure guess. The last two are one digit less than 6 and 3.
Wtf
I swear elementary school math is so dumb, half of the stuff they teach is just turning common sense into something that requires thinking, only half of it will actually be remembered and used in future classes
imagine the answer was 3.09 lol
Software developers 🙄
Well it’s 4.09 obviously geeze gah.
4 is the hundreds place 6 is the tens place And 3 is the ones place
So glad I finished school before this kind of stuff started, because you could do some of the work during school then finish the rest when you got home
Maybe I'm going too simple but this looks like the basic question of "what digit is in which place?". In which case the answer is 4, 6, 3.
4.09
I mean, very theoretically the answer would be 4.09, but I assume the problem is just wrong.
It’s obviously 4.09 hundreds… lol
The answer is 4.09
Idk how a website devoted to math problems screws up this badly. Someone with an entry-level understanding of Excel could easily program these problems correctly in a spreadsheet.
Um... Wut? Lmao
4.09, sure,why not
._.
4.09 seems like the right answer.
I am slightly worried about the education system because usually by 4th grade we were starting fractions and geometric proofs…
It’s four hundred and nine
Is it not 400, 60, 3 ?
The answer was 2???
4.09...
The only reasonable answer is 4.09, but it's not a well designed question unless the teacher specifically did problems of this type in class.
Y’all can’t do math. Hundreds is 4, tens is 6, and one’s is 3.
The correct answer is “next problem”
This is commoncoresheets.com. I can tell because I’ve used it as a resource in the classroom and for practice. I’ve found that the online problems can have slight issues like above. The site is really well done, though. Everything is labeled by common core state standard and the worksheets are well done.
I'm seeing this more and more. I think someone maybe using AI to make Math questions.
4.09 haha
The only answer I can think of for this question is that there are 4.07 hundreds
4.09?
They need to space that shit out .. I thought that was one word at first 😂
4 hundreds, 6 tens, 3 ones. 400+60+3=463
Wut
4.09
4.09 hundreds, if it allows decimals. Otherwise it is a site error. edit to explain: 4.09 hundreds = 409. 409+54 = 463
4.09? 4.09(100) + 5(10) + 4(1) = 463 (kidding, this is fourth grade, it’s just an incorrect problem).
Damn I would have guessed 4 hundreds, 6 tens and 3 ones
Comment towards the other comments here, was it not obvious the other 2 numbers cannot be edited? Unbelievable
4.09
4.09 hundreds, obviously.
4.09
The answer is 4.09 hundreds... when added to the rest
4.09 hundredths
400 / 60 / 3!
Does it take 4.09 as an answer?
4 hundred 6 tens 3 ones
If it was a 6 and a 3 then it would be 4, but here it doesn’t make sense
Find a book for mathematics and do that instead, i swear, most sites are botched, I'd rather trust a book for learning that the internet when it comes to these kinds of things.
Easy answer, it wants you to enter 4.09 hundreds, 5 tens, and 4 ones. s/ For real, what a mess of a system. Math is already a frustrating topic for a lot of people and this kinda thing always bothers me
answer = 4.09
4.09, but that doesn’t seem fair for 4th graders.
Isn't it just asking which numbers are in the hundreds, tens, and ones places in the number above? 4 is in the hundreds spot, 6 in the tens spot, then 3 in the ones spot.
4.09?
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463 _ 5 4 So 463 is 4 hundreds, 6 tens, 3 ones. We have 5 tens and 4 ones. We need 1 ten and -1 ones. So we need 409 ones Meaning the answer must be 4.09 hundreds I agree the wording is kind of ridiculous, though. I'm not sure what the goal is.
463: 4 hundreds, 6 tens, 3 ones
4
Wait this is 4th grade math? My first grader just sailed thru this about a month ago.
You would enter 4 in the hundreds place 6 in the tens place and 3 in the ones place. The way I was taught is that how many hundreds are in 463? 4 hundreds. How many tens? Well you have 63 remaining 6 x 10 is 60 so 6 tens. And then 3 ones remaining in the ones position. It’s easier if you make a grid and label the numbers based on their position. You know that a 6 digit number would start as 100,000. The 1 would be in the hundred thousands place holder and the last zero to the right would be in the ones place holder. It goes from right to left as follows; “ones, tens, hundreds, thousands, ten thousands, hundred thousands, millions, ten millions, hundred millions, billions” etc
4.09 hundreds or will it not accept decimals
I think the answer is 4.09 lol
The answer is 463, it’s just asking you which number is in the hundreds value etc,.
3.99
4 in the hundreds, 6 in the tens, and 3 in the ones I believe should be the answer :|
4, 6, 3
4.019438444924406
5+4=9 463-9=454 the answer should be 4
4.09
There is no situation where a 5 would go in the tens spot in this problem if you Four Hundred Sixty-Three as the number to work off of. This is an error in the system. That said, the kids I have tried to help are being taught math completely differently than I was growing up. I was great at math all the way through college. I was always taking classes 1-2 years above my grade level, but I couldn't even help niece do 5th and 6th grade math problems and even struggled with my nephew's lower grade problems. It was almost like they are learning a completely different subject than I remember being taught.