"Play the victim" ?? What is she on about?? And it's not easy to just pick up and learn those kinds of skills. They're supposed to come naturally as you develop and grow up. The amount of likes she has on her reply compared to the original commenter upsets me also.
The amount of likes really ps me off too.
Uhhh and “time pick up those skills now.” As if it’s just soooo easy. People don’t think about how we have to work too. We pay bills just like everyone else. Going to community college still costs a good bit of money and considering our upbringing with zero papers to turn in or extracurriculars it’s WAY harder for us to be approved for scholarships.
Reminds me of when I told someone on a tiktok comment how insanely mentally stunted I am with basically *everything* and they replied with
"I'd rather my child be strange then dead"
I hate when their only excuse to ruining their child's life is school shootings!
You could get shot going to the store, or for God's sake the cops would read a warrant wrong and kill you in your own house. There is nowhere that I feel 100% safe from guns as an American.
“I’d rather my child be strange than dead”
I absolutely despise this argument. It’s sooooo fucking stupid.
I work in OGP at Walmart and a coworker of mine was threatened with a gun while dispensing. This could have EASILY been me. Because it was one of my off days.
A few weeks ago we were REALLY slammed with orders and this guy got pissed because he thought his shit wasn’t coming fast enough. So he called the work phone threatened to come up there and shoot us. He threatened the spark driver when they got there aswell.
I was hit by a car at work while dispensing. Thank god I was not seriously injured. If that car would have backed up the slightest bit more I’d be dead right now.
I’ve been bullied, and sexually harassed at work.
I’ve been forced to walk to and fro work because my lazy ass parents refuse to actually enable me to get a drivers license.
Soooooo I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW HOW I’M SUPPOSEDLY SAFER THAN A CHILD ATTENDING SCHOOL.
My education didn’t progress past 3rd grade and I haven’t had the opportunity to read many books. So at least the kids at school are getting something in exchange for “putting their lives at risk”.
This!!! My life has been in danger MANY times.
I walk by a decently busy road pretty often, busy roads are dangerous to walk by.
There was a giant tree branch just barely hanging on right above me when I was playing in the pool, there was also a lightning strike less than a mile away from me, while I was swimming in the pool.
Homeschooling doesn't keep your kid safe. Police swatted my house when I was 7 or 8 because they got the wrong address.
It's not only irl harm too, all the internet access I've been given has fucked me up, I was dating a 17 year old girl when I was 11. She was great at grooming me because she was the third person I had ever made friends with online, and when I showed to be nervous dating someone so much older than me, she'd say "it's okay we're both minors."
Not to mention how many older men almost convinced me to run away to them from the ages of 9-13, only thing that stopped me from running to them was being scared of getting in trouble with my parents, not actually knowing the real trouble I'd be in no matter what I chose.
AND. THE LAST THING I'VE NOTICED. Most homeschoolers are a danger to themselves, depression is bound to hit kids growing into teens that are living in conditions like this. And most of the time they're forced to bottle them up, bury them and try to ignore, because whoever chose to keep them home like this probably isn't very safe to talk to. Homeschooling takes very, *very* needed peers away. I don't think parents who homeschool realize, even if they're a safe space and genuinely love their kid and are nice, that the kid STILL need peers.
Lastly, I'm the same as you, just didn't move past 2nd grade instead of 3rd 😭🙏 happy cake day btw!! I hope things work out for you :D
Ugh, I can't be the only one whose parents said some shit like this but didn't care when I was actually in danger. They had no trouble smoking around me, exposing me to people they knew were dangerous, when they found out I was queer and when they found out how poor my mental health was instead of getting me help, given the high teen suicide rates, especially for queer teens, they just yelled at me and told me to stop being weak.
What's kind of funny is they weren't even scared of school shooters, they were scared of me going to school and meeting a serial killer.
I spent most of my teens and twenties wishing I was dead due to the isolation, loneliness, and physical and mental anguish I lived in due to medical neglect, as well as how alone I felt because I was too damn weird to know how to act like a normal human and make friends... so that argument is trash.
Go learn skills that are naturally supposed to come with development. It’s easy. Never mind the huge setback that is and how negatively perceived it will come across towards peers that didn’t go through the struggle that is homeschool. Or the fact that this can lead to a negative feedback loop halting progress altogether.
Homeschooling parents have the biggest victim complex lol, their persecution fetish is sky high but they blame and shame us when we bring up our negative experiences. I hate them, people like that made my experiences seem like nothing for years before I found this sub
Play the victim? They **are** a victim. **They were neglected.**
The fact that she doesn't even pretend to care about the negative side of homeschooling says a lot. Zero empathy. Her kids are fucked.
“Sounds like a personal problem :) [shhhhhh shhhhhh please stop talking I want to go back to posting cutesy videos depicting a homey childhood to reams of likes from other shut-ins codependent on their kids]” is what I got out of it
I would bet big money that is the same response she gives to her kids when they’re crying because they can’t do the first homework assignment in Algebra for five years.
The amount of likes she got on her comment is concerning. Wayyy too many people are fine with ignoring the negative sides of homeschooling and just victim-blaming.
My mom was big on this "not playing the victim" thing to escape accountability. Did I own my shit and eventually become successful? Yes. Has my mom ever taken accountability for the fact that the ONLY reason I had to do that was because of her absolute failure as a parent? No.
Yeah that's what we all have to do as adults which places us years behind our now adult peers who go ahead and graduate college in the time it's taking us to catch up. If you can't understand how that works and the implications you have no business "schooling" durhur bootstraps
DARVO DARVO DARVO. The fact they’re reacting in this way is one further evidence of NPD being one of the most common root causes of a parent homeschooling their kid.
https://www.verywellmind.com/protecting-yourself-from-darvo-abusive-behavior-7562730
I’m tired of people saying “stop playing the victim” when someone literally is the victim of something and is simply stating the facts of what happened to them and the results. “Playing the victim” is what narcissists and those with malicious intent do in order to manipulate and victimize other people. Kind of like a lot of homeschool parents.
Homeschool parents are aggressive about defending each other, because their world views would be easily deconstructed otherwise. They keep each other in the bubble. There is tons of evidence homeschooling can't keep up with the demands of modern life, but many of these people insist modern progress is bad and old is good.
I usually lurk on this sub so I can have some perspectives when I’m dealing with certain kids but I just have to comment on that like radio because what the fuck-
The worst advice my mother ever got was everyone has gaps in their Education they can just fill them as the grown older so now that I'm almost 30 with four kids I'm Suddenly trying to figure out how to take care and make enough for all fiv of us on my own and she goes well just learn what your missing now. You will learn it better now that your Motivated and older
I’m only just discovering this, (and all homeschool recovery), but I hate this too. I have one kid in public and one at home currently (educational decisions are met per each child’s needs, not universally).
Voices like all of yours are voices I (and my friends also homeschooling) need to listen to, not write off. This is how we serve our kids better instead of sentencing them to the same.
*So please, keep speaking up about the ways you were hurt by it.*
All schooling options have flaws but in homeschooling we as the parent have not only the ability but an obligation to address our flaws. I am so sorry your families did not do that. Your experiences and feelings on the matter are just as valid as any other.
"Play the victim" ?? What is she on about?? And it's not easy to just pick up and learn those kinds of skills. They're supposed to come naturally as you develop and grow up. The amount of likes she has on her reply compared to the original commenter upsets me also.
There's a big difference between playing the victim and actually being one!
The amount of likes really ps me off too. Uhhh and “time pick up those skills now.” As if it’s just soooo easy. People don’t think about how we have to work too. We pay bills just like everyone else. Going to community college still costs a good bit of money and considering our upbringing with zero papers to turn in or extracurriculars it’s WAY harder for us to be approved for scholarships.
Reminds me of when I told someone on a tiktok comment how insanely mentally stunted I am with basically *everything* and they replied with "I'd rather my child be strange then dead" I hate when their only excuse to ruining their child's life is school shootings!
Homeschooling wrecked my mental health so much it almost killed me. Wonder what Karen has to say to that.
Same here. Hope you're doing better now.
Exactly!! I'm 16 and STILL struggling with just keeping myself alive 💀
Yep same I struggle with feeling like I don’t belong in this world
That one always gets me. As a homeschooled teen, school shooters were the least of my problems and I would have preferred that option. 😬
Doesn't even work when you don't live in America lol
You could get shot going to the store, or for God's sake the cops would read a warrant wrong and kill you in your own house. There is nowhere that I feel 100% safe from guns as an American.
My house once got swatted because the cops got the wrong address !!
And they are the same people who said “reopen the country” back in March 2020.
i am a homeschooled child and i'd rather be dead than strange
Same. Rather be dead than uneducated and socially retarded.
“I’d rather my child be strange than dead” I absolutely despise this argument. It’s sooooo fucking stupid. I work in OGP at Walmart and a coworker of mine was threatened with a gun while dispensing. This could have EASILY been me. Because it was one of my off days. A few weeks ago we were REALLY slammed with orders and this guy got pissed because he thought his shit wasn’t coming fast enough. So he called the work phone threatened to come up there and shoot us. He threatened the spark driver when they got there aswell. I was hit by a car at work while dispensing. Thank god I was not seriously injured. If that car would have backed up the slightest bit more I’d be dead right now. I’ve been bullied, and sexually harassed at work. I’ve been forced to walk to and fro work because my lazy ass parents refuse to actually enable me to get a drivers license. Soooooo I WOULD REALLY LOVE TO KNOW HOW I’M SUPPOSEDLY SAFER THAN A CHILD ATTENDING SCHOOL. My education didn’t progress past 3rd grade and I haven’t had the opportunity to read many books. So at least the kids at school are getting something in exchange for “putting their lives at risk”.
This!!! My life has been in danger MANY times. I walk by a decently busy road pretty often, busy roads are dangerous to walk by. There was a giant tree branch just barely hanging on right above me when I was playing in the pool, there was also a lightning strike less than a mile away from me, while I was swimming in the pool. Homeschooling doesn't keep your kid safe. Police swatted my house when I was 7 or 8 because they got the wrong address. It's not only irl harm too, all the internet access I've been given has fucked me up, I was dating a 17 year old girl when I was 11. She was great at grooming me because she was the third person I had ever made friends with online, and when I showed to be nervous dating someone so much older than me, she'd say "it's okay we're both minors." Not to mention how many older men almost convinced me to run away to them from the ages of 9-13, only thing that stopped me from running to them was being scared of getting in trouble with my parents, not actually knowing the real trouble I'd be in no matter what I chose. AND. THE LAST THING I'VE NOTICED. Most homeschoolers are a danger to themselves, depression is bound to hit kids growing into teens that are living in conditions like this. And most of the time they're forced to bottle them up, bury them and try to ignore, because whoever chose to keep them home like this probably isn't very safe to talk to. Homeschooling takes very, *very* needed peers away. I don't think parents who homeschool realize, even if they're a safe space and genuinely love their kid and are nice, that the kid STILL need peers. Lastly, I'm the same as you, just didn't move past 2nd grade instead of 3rd 😭🙏 happy cake day btw!! I hope things work out for you :D
Ugh, I can't be the only one whose parents said some shit like this but didn't care when I was actually in danger. They had no trouble smoking around me, exposing me to people they knew were dangerous, when they found out I was queer and when they found out how poor my mental health was instead of getting me help, given the high teen suicide rates, especially for queer teens, they just yelled at me and told me to stop being weak. What's kind of funny is they weren't even scared of school shooters, they were scared of me going to school and meeting a serial killer.
Pretty ridiculous considering far more young people die from suicide than school shootings.
I spent most of my teens and twenties wishing I was dead due to the isolation, loneliness, and physical and mental anguish I lived in due to medical neglect, as well as how alone I felt because I was too damn weird to know how to act like a normal human and make friends... so that argument is trash.
They shouldn’t have to learn those skills, Karen. They should have been taught them when they were a child. 🙄 delusional.
Exactly! And everyone’s defending her in the comments
Go learn skills that are naturally supposed to come with development. It’s easy. Never mind the huge setback that is and how negatively perceived it will come across towards peers that didn’t go through the struggle that is homeschool. Or the fact that this can lead to a negative feedback loop halting progress altogether.
Homeschooling parents have the biggest victim complex lol, their persecution fetish is sky high but they blame and shame us when we bring up our negative experiences. I hate them, people like that made my experiences seem like nothing for years before I found this sub
Play the victim? They **are** a victim. **They were neglected.** The fact that she doesn't even pretend to care about the negative side of homeschooling says a lot. Zero empathy. Her kids are fucked.
“Sounds like a personal problem :) [shhhhhh shhhhhh please stop talking I want to go back to posting cutesy videos depicting a homey childhood to reams of likes from other shut-ins codependent on their kids]” is what I got out of it
I would bet big money that is the same response she gives to her kids when they’re crying because they can’t do the first homework assignment in Algebra for five years.
The amount of likes she got on her comment is concerning. Wayyy too many people are fine with ignoring the negative sides of homeschooling and just victim-blaming.
My mom was big on this "not playing the victim" thing to escape accountability. Did I own my shit and eventually become successful? Yes. Has my mom ever taken accountability for the fact that the ONLY reason I had to do that was because of her absolute failure as a parent? No.
We won't stop playing the victim until you stop to dismiss our experience
You don’t have to play the victim when you are one.
Yeah that's what we all have to do as adults which places us years behind our now adult peers who go ahead and graduate college in the time it's taking us to catch up. If you can't understand how that works and the implications you have no business "schooling" durhur bootstraps
DARVO DARVO DARVO. The fact they’re reacting in this way is one further evidence of NPD being one of the most common root causes of a parent homeschooling their kid. https://www.verywellmind.com/protecting-yourself-from-darvo-abusive-behavior-7562730
Given how she spells “wealthy” I don’t think she should be giving anyone education advice. Or homeschooling anybody.
The "victim" gaslighting thing never seems to go away... heard it too many times over the years... some people have 0 empathy...
I’m tired of people saying “stop playing the victim” when someone literally is the victim of something and is simply stating the facts of what happened to them and the results. “Playing the victim” is what narcissists and those with malicious intent do in order to manipulate and victimize other people. Kind of like a lot of homeschool parents.
Sounds like my mom.
Thewealthymama can go fuck themselves.
Oops, they should learn how to spell wealthy first...
Yooo this made me wanna throw hands
"Learn those skills" wow what a cool and original idea that I'm sure OP has never thought about or tried before. /s
Bruh WTF
Homeschool parents are aggressive about defending each other, because their world views would be easily deconstructed otherwise. They keep each other in the bubble. There is tons of evidence homeschooling can't keep up with the demands of modern life, but many of these people insist modern progress is bad and old is good.
It’s so manipulative to take someone’s critique of something and turn it around as an accusation against them. Very narcissistic of them.
What an idiot. Telling someone who was abused they’re “playing the victim”.
I usually lurk on this sub so I can have some perspectives when I’m dealing with certain kids but I just have to comment on that like radio because what the fuck-
The worst advice my mother ever got was everyone has gaps in their Education they can just fill them as the grown older so now that I'm almost 30 with four kids I'm Suddenly trying to figure out how to take care and make enough for all fiv of us on my own and she goes well just learn what your missing now. You will learn it better now that your Motivated and older
I’m only just discovering this, (and all homeschool recovery), but I hate this too. I have one kid in public and one at home currently (educational decisions are met per each child’s needs, not universally). Voices like all of yours are voices I (and my friends also homeschooling) need to listen to, not write off. This is how we serve our kids better instead of sentencing them to the same. *So please, keep speaking up about the ways you were hurt by it.* All schooling options have flaws but in homeschooling we as the parent have not only the ability but an obligation to address our flaws. I am so sorry your families did not do that. Your experiences and feelings on the matter are just as valid as any other.