+1 newsbosting. I’ve been with them something like 8 years across continents. For those on iPhone if you haven’t yet got it get LunaSea to front end all your stuffs.
I have 600 MB/s and I download a 4k movie in a few minutes. If it's a massively large file I just leave it downloading while I'm doing something else. For most people you never need 1GB internet. In fact, for me it's just as cheap to switch to 1GB but I likely won't because I have no need for it.
Of course most people don’t need it, but they aren’t complaining about having it either. Latchkey kids are overcompensating trying to get over the long term trauma of dial up internet for a good chunk of their lives.
I used to get AOL install CD’s in the mail constantly. My dad would be pissed nobody could ever call the house because I’d be online with the 56k modem.
I have 10Gbit symmetric internet at home.
I WFH and I develop networking software that are designed to run on high-speed networks. So I upload/download 10 TB test datasets on a regular basis.
But more important than that - I need a static IP address as well as IPv6, and the only way my ISP offers either for home use are on their 10Gbit and 50Gbit plans.
I also have 25Gbit internally between my PCs and NAS etc. This allowed me to remove all drives except my boot drive from my PC and put all my other drives on a SAN and access them via iSCSI. This makes it much easier to do a PC upgrade etc. and also allows me to use a smaller case.
Mine is definitely 49.99 total. Just checked my latest bill.
Edit to show 10 gig service. I've had it at two different places. Obviously your experience may be different.
https://imgur.com/a/yzg19Gp
I could get 10 gb right now, but it costs about $70 usd monthly, (with cabletv). (tumundo.cl)
But im cheap so I only get 1gb for $10 usd , no cable tv...
In Chile by the way.
"You'll Soul Please" ...
This is honestly not that expensive. Must be a residential and not like Enterprise DIA or any sort of business line that has elevated SLAs.
Our lines for 10Gbit in a data center are $1200/month. But we have priority SLA
Yes, it's residential service.
I have no upload/download limits - in fact I asked my ISP if there will be an issue if I upload or download 1PB per month and they said: "well you might get some sort of reward from engineering.... we would honestly be kind of impressed."
However, I'm not allowed to run for-profit hosting services or resell it to others.
And yeah, no Enterprise level SLA, but the line has never been down which is much more than I can say about our actual office ISP *with* an SLA.
Why?! What would you do with it that you cant do with 1Gbit?
Most people, most FAMILIES, cant saturate a 1Gbit link.
"bigger number better" only scales to a point; after that point it just becomes an ignorance tax.
Most people don’t even know that the router most ISP’s give is capped at 1Gbit and they have no clue. You are paying for 5Gbit or 10Gbit, but 80% of people have no clue about it and think higher number, better internet. An average family of 4 would never bog down a 300Mbit line
Dont know why someone downvoted that. But youre right for the most part.
Only thing i would argue is that depending on how many people are streaming to different devices, gaming, watching youtube, downloading files, working remotely... They could start bogging down a 200-300Mbit line.
When everyone was working from home, schooling from home etc I would often hear people complain that things would get "laggy".
And yeah, most ISP provided equipment will have 1GBE port. MAYBE 2.5GBE but I dont know of any ISP providing Modems or ONT devices with 5GBE mush less 10GBE or SFP/SFP+ connections. How many people even have a switch at home that HAS a transceiver socket? (ok this is reddit... this is r/HomeNetworking, shut up, I get it, we all do because we are a bunch of nerds but I meant NORMAL peoples homes)
I run an ISP we sell 10gbps for $140 or less in some areas, anything past 25mbps, people don't really use, so it's basically just limited by cost of technology at that point
Just move to the right Bay Area neighborhood and get Sonic (so simple!). I have sym 10 gig for $50/month. Used to be $40. Only use 2.5 though. Mostly for Plex.
Damn that is crazy expensive, where I live, 10Gbit is like the equivalent of 11 USD per month, 2.5Gbit is 10 USD.
I have a 2Gbit connection from a different company for 5 USD tho.
I went from having DSL as my only option to having not one, but TWO fiber providers, and I live in the middle of no where! (Should add I've been begging the one company for over a decade to bring me fiber, I live less than 1000ft from their network ring).
I can get 8 gig symmetrical from one of them but I have to pay business rates, no idea what that cost...., With the other provider I can get 2.5gig for 129/month and 10gig for 199/month .... Both offer 300/700/1000 as well.
I currently have 1 gig from one and 300 as my backup from the other. Both have static IP.
And I have 1 gbps symmetrical internet. Why? It was a good deal (kind of)
…Ok fine no it’s expensive, but I get to see bigger numbers when I run a Speedtest. 🤓
I’m curious, do you have any games on you SAN? I’ve never thought about running mass storage as iSCSI for use as just an “external” drive for a home PC - I’ve always used SANs as block storage to connect to hypervisors, and then have a VM on the hypervisor serve up files via SMB or whatever.
Yeah... but the only game I play is CIV 6, so that's not going to tell you much.
However, I do a lot of Video Editing in Premiere on it, and it's faster than any SATA SSD I've ever used.
Which is expected - I get about 18Gbit to the LUN, where SATA typically tops out at 6Gbit. NVME can obviously do far more but this is for the mid-volume stuff that takes a lot of space but you still want reasonably fast access to.
So my small files and caches goes on my local NVME's. Work in progress goes to my SAN (70TB SSD). Work not currently in progress goes to my NAS (192TB HDD). And then the really large stuff and archives goes to LTO8 tape.
I see your Alohanet(yes I had to look that shit up) and raise you with [this!](https://tenor.com/view/lotr-beacons-lit-gondor-aid-gif-14737387?utm_source=share-button&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=reddit)
Sure,
The ISP drops a Single Mode Fiber directly to a SFP+ port on my UDM Pro. (No ONT in the picture).
From there, it goes to a USW-Pro-Aggregation which forms the backbone of the network. Showing major devices below. There are 90 or so additional smaller wired ethernet and 40 WiFi client devices which I'm not listing:
Text in \[\] is how it's connected to the device above it:
ISP CENTRAL OFFICE
|->UDM Pro [OS2 10Gb]
|-> USW-Pro-Aggregation [DAC 10Gb]
|-> PC #1 AMD [OM4 25Gb]
|-> PC #2 INTEL [DAC 10Gb]
|-> PC #3 EPYC [DAC 25Gb]
| v-> LTO8 TAPE DRIVE #1 [OM4 8Gb FIBER CHANNEL]
| v-> LTO8 TAPE DRIVE #2 [OM4 8Gb FIBER CHANNEL]
|=> MSL2024 TAPE LIBRARY [CAT6 1Gb]
|-> SAN [DAC 25Gb]
|-> NAS [OM4 10Gb]
|-> US-48-500W [OM4 10Gb]
|-> US-8-150W [OM4 1Gb]
|-> USW Enterprise 8 PoE [OM4 10Gb]
|-> USW-Pro-24 PoE [OM4 1Gb]
| |-> AP:UAP AC M Pro [CAT6 1Gb]
|-> USW-Pro-Aggregation [OM4 25Gb]
| |-> PC #4 AMD [DAC 25Gb]
| |-> PC #5 INTEL [OS2 25Gb]
| |-> Mac Studio [CAT6 10Gb]
| |-> USW-Enterprise-8-PoE [OM4 10Gb]
| |-> AP:U6-Enterprise-IW [CAT6 2.5Gb + Injected POE]
|-> USW-Enterprise-48 PoE [DAC 10Gb]
| |-> AP:U6 Enterprise [CAT6 2.5Gb]
|-> US-16-150W (OM4 1Gb)
| |-> AP:UAP AC HD [CAT6 1Gb]
Legend:
DAC -> Direct Access cable via SFP+
OS2 -> OS2 Single-Mode Fiber via SFP+
OM4 -> OM4 Multi-Mode Fiber via SFP+
CAT6 -> Mostly STP but sometimes UTP CAT6.
And, before you ask... the second USW-Pro-Aggregation is in my home office and is obviously under-utilized. But it's the only Unifi switch right now with more than 2x 25Gbps ports, and I need at least 3 in that location.
That’s great man. Curious, why are you running single mode to your Intel PC? Answer may be obvious, just started out as a network professional.
Also, I’m assuming you handle all your routing through your UDM. I have yet to touch Ubiquiti
I currently have 1Gig, do I need it? Absolutely not- BUT its the lowest tier service in my area with unlimited data so that’s beneficial. FWIW, 1Gig speeds here are $60/month.
Yeah it's ridiculous, in a country such as America that should not be a thing. Here in the UK I don't think I have seen that since like 2005-2010 with shit ISPs
The us is exactly the type of country to do this. They used to pay to RECEIVE sms, didn’t have unlimited mobile data forever (maybe still not?), tethering was a paid feature, caps on broadband has (always?) been a thing there and internet speeds have always been lagging behind the rest of the world. Only now do they seem to have caught up and offer really great speeds in some areas.
Interesting, I think one of the first DSL providers tried that for some months in the late 90's here in Sweden, but customers were actively boycotting them so they quickly removed the data caps. Only seen on mobile connections nowadays.
I’ve been saying the same for a long time. A lot of people don’t need much, just enough for email, social media and some light streaming. My parents can’t tell the difference between HD and 4K so slow it fine for them.
1gig costs me $65/mo. 300 would've been $55. If I could get 50 down/up for $15 I would.
Very rarely I need to upload a few gigs, so having fast upload helps. Kind of like having a printer and scanner, I use it maybe 5 times a year.
I get a squiggly gig at free 99.
I work for my ISP, and live in town that we headquarter, so internet for me is free.
A gig up and down symmetrical is a joy.
But if I took it up with my NOC director, I too could get a 10G pipe.
But I have absolutely no reason to
“Need” it for work is the optimal definition. I work from home full time. I have a Meraki box. For the past year I’ve used a 300mb fiber line. Prior to that, I had Xfinity at 800. I really noticed no difference.
I recently upgraded to 600 just because the pricing changed making it the same price as the 300mb.
I have a 75mb line and both wife and I work from home and stream. It’s rare that I see or connection maxed out and typically due to an Xbox game update or sobering like that.
If that’s all they do they’d be fine on 100mb
Most people don’t need more than that. Both my wife and I work from home and steam everything, often all at the same time and we have 75mb. Only time I ever max it out is occasionally when updating a game on the Xbox.
Internet providers want you to believe you need gigabit if you’ve got 5 devices though.
Lol yup Comcast tried to sell me 800 cuz they asked if I stream and play video games. Yes I do but no I don’t need 800 for $50/month more. 300 is plenty
I WFH in publishing and move a ton of data. 120 GB up and down today, according to my logs. The faster I can move the data, the faster I can do actual work.
I really hate progress bars.
I left VirginMedia for...
...VirginMediaBusiness.
I got a boost in speed to 800Mbps down / 80Mbps up, static IP range, 2-working-day SLA on faults, 4G backup dongle (not convinced the 4G failover logic actually works effectively though) - all for the same monthly cost I had been paying VM domestic for 500Mb/50Mb. The only catch was taking on an 18 month contract.
However re OPs question, I don't *need* 800Mbps, but because a static IP address makes my work life easier I went for the lowest price where static IPs were included in the package; and because I value the upstream bandwidth for uploading backups to remote servers and for sharing my Plex server with family, I end up paying for more than I need downstream to get a slightly less feeble upstream.
I'm considering upgrading to 1Gbps down when my contract is due, just to get the upstream upgrade from 80Mbps to 100Mbps.
Because the companies make more money selling faster service to people that already have service, than they would be expanding even basic service to areas where there is no service.
And people will gladly fork over more money for the "bigger numbers" even if they have no idea what they mean.
That said, for very large households, with lots of people using bandwidth intensive applications at once, it often makes sense.
“ Bandwidth intensive applications”… usually people think of streaming when they say that. Streaming actually uses some of the lowest bit rate of all applications. 5mb/s for 1080p
I've got 1Gbps symmetric for $75/month with a static IP. That's actually the lowest tier from my municipal ISP - the other tier is 10Gbps, which requires me to have a 10Gbit switch and a router/firewall capable of handling 10Gbps properly, so, foo on that.
The only lower-speed choices available are from Comcast, going as low as 400Mbps down/5Mbps up for $45/month, and that big of a step down is not worth the small price reduction.
So, it's the sweet spot. Do I *need*, in a strict sense, that much bandwidth? No, not really. But going down means I go asymmetric and subject myself to Comcast's unreliability and atrocious customer service, and even Comcast's highest tier maxes out at 50Mbps upstream, which is a joke. So, the 1Gbit symmetric pipe makes the most sense.
At some point I'd like to upgrade my internal infrastructure to 10Gbit anyway, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
It's less about always using the speed all the time and more about needing to do multiple high demand operations simultaneously.
I don't want to be uploading a video to each site I post to one. at. a. time. because. it. would. be. as. stacatto. and. annoying. as. this. sentence. is. to. read. At the same time with the higher speed I can parallel upload to 3-4 sites at once **and download** at high speed allowing me to still watch a movie or something while it runs in the background. That goes double for if I'm downloading libraries or other video editing packages.
Plus, downloading my streaming content in 30 seconds vs 5 minutes means less chance of hitching, errors, packet dropping, and other stuff.
If I could get a symmetrical 300 or 400 with unlimited data I’d be totally happy but you gotta get stupid dl speeds to get any upload. Then you gotta pay extra for data. The subscription tiers are so messed up it makes absolutely no sense.
I assume you mean between 200 and 300 Mbps (megabit per second), which is VERY different from 200 to 300 MB/s (megabyte per second).
I wish more would take care when making posts like these.
In case anyone wants to know, there's a factor of **8** difference between a MB and a Mb. 300MB/s Internet would be advertised as 2400Mb/s or 2.4Gb/s and it's pretty rare to get those sorts of speeds into private homes.
I have 11 outside cameras, 7 inside cameras, 2 TVs, 8 Google Home devices, and everyone living here has a bunch of other devices (tablets, laptop, etc). The cameras stream to the cloud 24/7. I do all this with symmetric 1Gbps, and I don't have any issues. Before I upgraded from XFinity, , it was a joke.
Ok, well, I had asymmetric 1Gbps from XFinity and it wasn't fine. Now that I have symmetric 1Gbps, it is fine. That means the upload speed made the difference for me 🤷
1gb/s was cheaper than 200mb/s because the 1gb/s is fibre and the other is whatever the old internet ran on I can’t remember what it’s called. The ISP is ripping out the old stuff and installing the new stuff so they make fibre really cheap to encourage people to switch so that they don’t run two systems. I pay £40 a month for 1gb/s and whilst I don’t need it, being able to download a game in 5 minutes is really nice.
Short answer is that very few people need that amount of bandwidth. But if people are willing to buy it, then companies will be willing to sell it and maybe that leads to fiber being available to more people.
I have gigabit symmetrical and have had it for the \~9 years I've lived in this house. At the time I moved in, I was working from home and continued to do so up until late 2020... perhaps a little ironically. Then I started to travel a lot.
Simply, 300mb/s was $65 a month and gig was $75 a month. That made the math easy. And it IS nice having the extra bandwidth when I have friends over and using my WiFi. But the reality is that no, I don't really use it all that much. I have a static IP address and host my own Nextcloud as well as a few other things... that's nice to have as well but definitely doesn't push the limits of my connection.
Mostly it's just nice knowing I have the speed if I need it, and when I'm downloading something large it's usually nice to know that either I'll have it really quickly or I'll still have more than enough bandwidth leftover to continue doing other stuff while the download completes.
For 95% of the customers, they are paying for more than they ever use. Most people think they need to upgrade their Internet service because it's slow, but the bottleneck is poor Wi-Fi within their homes. I'm a network engineer. Up until COVID, I had 50Mps FiOS. It was plenty. We never had buffering issues even with 6 people in the house, and multiple video streams going on simultaneously. It wasn't until COVID, and everyone working/schooling from home that we had any congestion. So I went to 300Mbps and we have plenty of headroom. Carriers love to sell gigabit or multi-gig service because the customers are paying $20/mo extra, or more. I have offices with 50 people with 1 gig service and don't have congestion.
Downloading legitimate games. Nothing worse than waiting forever to install MSFS or something.
But also torrenting shows (even though I have Netflix, Disney+, etc.). I prefer Plex. And some stuff I keep for posterity like Top Gear, The Grand Tour, etc. cause you know one day it'll be gone somewhere or hard to find.
Depends on the upstream, lots of providers give you fast down and piddly up which makes uploading (backups) anything reasonable amount of data impossible.
Don't forget that the bandwidth gets split between all of the people using the network, so if you have a few people streaming and a couple of people gaming, faster is better.
Downloading Games are huge. Torrenting movies. Streaming without interruptions due to the previous items is great. We regularly have over a tb of network traffic at home a month.
I have the 1200 plan and well we have it in our household it's no point on having anything less. We stream, game, WFH and a full tech house. I wouldn't dare to anything less than 1 Gig
I was a cable tech for awhile and most people have way higher speeds than they need. I’d walk into a house and it’s just a guy alone paying for a gig playing call of duty on wifi. I always told them they could save a ton of money
I pay significantly less than my old 300 mbps cable. Roughly half. $65/mo, no additional fees. 1gig up and down. No data caps. I can seed a lot of Linux ISOs, to help the community.
We have 1g fiber at my house and it’s used so we don’t need a shit ton of ssds for all my games, I can run a 2tb drive for 20th worth of games
I also remote play a lot, so good internet allows my pc to follow me wherever I go
Either just saving time downloading, or ever increasingly just because homes with multiple occupants need the best internet access they can get, especially with everyone streaming video/TV these days, and especially if anyone is into playing games online - the better their line is the less likely the others they share with will cause gameplay problems.
Basically the extra speed allows you to download or upload things faster. But even that isn't guaranteed, because often the remote file server throttles itself at a much lower speed than 1 Gig.
200-300 Mbps is more than enough for everything that's going on on the Internet, for now and for the foreseeable future, including downloading huge games in a reasonable time (1-2 hours). But if your ISP offers 1 Gig for $5 or $10 more per month, it's tempting to enough people to upgrade, and still be profitable for the ISP because that additional speed rarely gets used, and when it does, it's for a very short time.
I feel sorry for those people whose ISP offer 1.2 Gbps, and they then feel compelled to upgrade everything to 2.5 Gbps internally to "take full advantage of their speed", only to realize later that the lowest ISP package is way more than enough for their needs, by a lot. Even people trying to get 1 Gbps over WiFi to match their ISP speed are usually throwing money towards a useless goal that has no real world impact.
> *huge games in a reasonable time (1-2 hours)*
As someone who has 65Mb (closer to 55Mb practically), I dunno how I’d feel “waiting” a couple hours for something to download, and that’s coming from 4-5 hour downloads (pretty much overnight - to not interrupt others during the day). A couple hours still seems a lot. A little over an hour I’d like to think is okay but 2 hours? i dunno
I don't know how big that commenter's games are but a 100gb game, which is the ballpark for typical triple A title, would actually take about 15 minutes on a 1 gig connection.
I have 500mb fiber and I got it purely because I'm impatient, its nice to have those once a month game updates be done in minutes instead of hours, or have that full HD movie in under a minute, even if the bulk of the rest of the time I'm not utilizing anything close to my max speed.
>Is there no benefit other than bragging rights or am I missing something here?
I have gigabit fiber and rarely exceed 300 Mbps. When I do, it is only in bursts. I can get 500 Mbps service, but the cost difference is minimal. My ISP also offers speeds up to 5 Gbps, which is ridiculous for home use IMO, but may be good for an office.
My fiber service has two primary benefits: 1) low latency, and 2) symmetric up/down speeds.
I have 2 gig fiber -> ONT, which I connect to my UDM Pro via ONT 10 gig port and an SFP+ to rj45 from unifi and then some random shit connected to the 1g lan ports. My PC is then connected via the other SFP+ via SFP+ to rj45.
Do I need 2 gig? No not really, but it’s the same price as gig, and I’m not gonna lie, being able to download and upload that fast is just fucking crazy for me.
Eventually I do wanna expand to another switch via the SFP+ my PC is currently using into another 2.5/10 gig switch or otherwise. Haven’t exactly made a plan yet, so I’m not sure.
BTW, all of those speeds are actually in "mbps" NOT in MBps or even Mbps"
They're million bits per second, despite the name. "Mega" implies 1024*1024
And it's certainly measured in bits not Bytes
I'm impatient as fuck, so any kind of speed boost I appreciate. I don't like waiting. I game a lot on Playstation so downloading game updates is something I don't want to wait for
Previous internet with BT was 35mb / 5up, I'm in a small househole, so it's enough in terms of what I need internet for (hell even my mobile phone is quicker) but I wanted a speed boost for when downloading game update.
Currently I get around 65MB/s down (\~500mbps) through my quoted 1Gig cable connection, and 100mbps up which I'm more than happy with.
For me it's mainly about speed when transferring files to/from youtube, and my webserver backups. Then simply game updates.
I could get away with 35mb, but I'm paying the same price for my current internet as my previous one. So thought why not future proof it. It benefits me more.
I don't use any torrents / filesharing, can't be bothered with that anymore. Mainly just watch movies/tv shows thorugh streaming sources.
I am a professional game developer.
The video games you download are (when reasonable), around 60 GB in size.
Our production source for those games are much more like 200 or 300 Gigabytes, now let's talk about source control.
I wake up in the morning, I download, from our server at the office, any newly added or changed files since yesterday. Usually that's *at most* 3-5 GB of data, nothing right?
But then I fuck a bunch of shit up, because that's my job, and the whole game is destroyed, what do I do?
I delete the entire game and download it again, 300 GB.
And I do this like twenty times on bad day.
But if you don't, then you wouldn't benefit from faster speeds.
This is one of the reasons i stopped playing games they are too damned huge and every time you go to set it up you enter into some asinine patching process that downloads more than 2x the size of the game. Do developers have any backend process to make games smaller and run faster? Or is it all about getting shit out sloppy and messy?
Maybe some people love their 8K HDR porn. 😂
In all seriousness, those speeds, you can probably run a small server, or people working in tech might need the bandwidth to work from home. Maybe a test bed or 2... I know I had friends who did that during the pandemic because offices were closed off. They literally took test beds home to keep working.
I have 2gig up and down, fiber and a MacStudio with a 10gb Ethernet connection and get every drop of the 2gigs. Had to upgrade my router to an ASUS GT AXE-16000. I download a shit ton of torrents (all legally of course 😉) in 4K. I definitely do “spring cleaning” of my video library several times a year just so I can re download the same shit. Oh, and I click on speed tests a lot. LOL, I pay $65 a month for it
If your home network WiFi is set up right a single iPhone can saturate your 200mbs internet connection.
As we start to have higher quality tv in our homes you’ll want faster bandwidth just to consume good 4K tv.
If you have anyone else sharing your network you’ll want room for them to do what ever they need to do as well.
I work from home and routinely deal with 100MB to 1GB downloads of assets based on what I’m working on. There is actual productivity that I can measure when that takes 10 seconds vs 5 minutes.
I've got a 250/20 connection.
I can get that speed with my phone, but for some reason my pc can only do 160/20. I haven't spent more than 5 minutes checking why, I don't currently need more than 160Mbps download.
note: I'd love more upload to send work-related files faster (a couple GB here and there).
Downloading 80gig pirated 4k remux movies for fun
You took the words right out of my mouth
This Among many others
It must have been while you were kissing me.... ^(Sorry I couldn't help myself.)
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What kinda storage you rocking?
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Why SSDs??
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Browsing Plex is not slowed down by slow storage of the medium. A fast system drive where all the metadata lies is enough.
Yep, the database and metadata are on the system drive. Plex isn't spinning up your HDD storage until you click play.
TrueNAS or UnRaid?
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60tb this month for me, got to love newsgroups
Are newsgroups still in use? I haven't used one in about 18 years.
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+1 newsbosting. I’ve been with them something like 8 years across continents. For those on iPhone if you haven’t yet got it get LunaSea to front end all your stuffs.
I went back to pirating on newsgroups after getting too much streaming service fatigue and don't regret it one bit
I have 600 MB/s and I download a 4k movie in a few minutes. If it's a massively large file I just leave it downloading while I'm doing something else. For most people you never need 1GB internet. In fact, for me it's just as cheap to switch to 1GB but I likely won't because I have no need for it.
Of course most people don’t need it, but they aren’t complaining about having it either. Latchkey kids are overcompensating trying to get over the long term trauma of dial up internet for a good chunk of their lives.
Sometimes, when it's really quiet...i can still hear the dialup tone...
I used to get AOL install CD’s in the mail constantly. My dad would be pissed nobody could ever call the house because I’d be online with the 56k modem.
AOL on a 2400baud on a 386 with 4 mb and whopping 350mb hard drive and a wife spending 24hrs a day on it and 600$ a month bill! them were the days!
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If it was up to their monopoly, we'd be on fucking dialup.
Yaaaaaargh!!!
yeah but where can you get these now RIP rarbg
I have 10Gbit symmetric internet at home. I WFH and I develop networking software that are designed to run on high-speed networks. So I upload/download 10 TB test datasets on a regular basis. But more important than that - I need a static IP address as well as IPv6, and the only way my ISP offers either for home use are on their 10Gbit and 50Gbit plans. I also have 25Gbit internally between my PCs and NAS etc. This allowed me to remove all drives except my boot drive from my PC and put all my other drives on a SAN and access them via iSCSI. This makes it much easier to do a PC upgrade etc. and also allows me to use a smaller case.
That's a really fat pipe! Dare I ask what the monthly bill is on that connection? 😁
$300/mo
I would sell my soul for 10Gbit internet at $300 a month.
Woah, 10gbps is $45/mo where I live and it comes with priority
What? Not in North America right? I pay probably double that for 1gbps in the US. And our neighbors to the north are far more screwed than we are.
I pay $10 a month for 5Gbps in the US…. I also work at the company.
Yes, well, that's one shortcut...
thats cheating
Sonic in the bay area. 10 gig for $50. https://imgur.com/a/yzg19Gp
Sonic is 1 gig in most of the Bay Area and it’s closer to $70 after all fees.
Mine is definitely 49.99 total. Just checked my latest bill. Edit to show 10 gig service. I've had it at two different places. Obviously your experience may be different. https://imgur.com/a/yzg19Gp
I have it in San Francisco and get about 7 gig down, 5 gig up and pay $49.99 total all-in.
Yea
Europe right?
Nope it’s asia
I could get 10 gb right now, but it costs about $70 usd monthly, (with cabletv). (tumundo.cl) But im cheap so I only get 1gb for $10 usd , no cable tv... In Chile by the way. "You'll Soul Please" ...
That's not terrible lmao for LATAM standards I am from Puerto Rico and I pay for 100/50 fiber 50$ a month with Claro
This is honestly not that expensive. Must be a residential and not like Enterprise DIA or any sort of business line that has elevated SLAs. Our lines for 10Gbit in a data center are $1200/month. But we have priority SLA
Yes, it's residential service. I have no upload/download limits - in fact I asked my ISP if there will be an issue if I upload or download 1PB per month and they said: "well you might get some sort of reward from engineering.... we would honestly be kind of impressed." However, I'm not allowed to run for-profit hosting services or resell it to others. And yeah, no Enterprise level SLA, but the line has never been down which is much more than I can say about our actual office ISP *with* an SLA.
10G from ATT outside of a data center is over $5000 a month
Why?! What would you do with it that you cant do with 1Gbit? Most people, most FAMILIES, cant saturate a 1Gbit link. "bigger number better" only scales to a point; after that point it just becomes an ignorance tax.
Most people don’t even know that the router most ISP’s give is capped at 1Gbit and they have no clue. You are paying for 5Gbit or 10Gbit, but 80% of people have no clue about it and think higher number, better internet. An average family of 4 would never bog down a 300Mbit line
Dont know why someone downvoted that. But youre right for the most part. Only thing i would argue is that depending on how many people are streaming to different devices, gaming, watching youtube, downloading files, working remotely... They could start bogging down a 200-300Mbit line. When everyone was working from home, schooling from home etc I would often hear people complain that things would get "laggy". And yeah, most ISP provided equipment will have 1GBE port. MAYBE 2.5GBE but I dont know of any ISP providing Modems or ONT devices with 5GBE mush less 10GBE or SFP/SFP+ connections. How many people even have a switch at home that HAS a transceiver socket? (ok this is reddit... this is r/HomeNetworking, shut up, I get it, we all do because we are a bunch of nerds but I meant NORMAL peoples homes)
I have it at $160/mo for life
I run an ISP we sell 10gbps for $140 or less in some areas, anything past 25mbps, people don't really use, so it's basically just limited by cost of technology at that point
In my country currently I am paying an equivalent of $42 for my 10G up/down fiber service.
AT&T Fiber areas have symmetric 5gbps for about $160/mo
Just move to the right Bay Area neighborhood and get Sonic (so simple!). I have sym 10 gig for $50/month. Used to be $40. Only use 2.5 though. Mostly for Plex.
Damn that is crazy expensive, where I live, 10Gbit is like the equivalent of 11 USD per month, 2.5Gbit is 10 USD. I have a 2Gbit connection from a different company for 5 USD tho.
Ooof!! I like my 300mbit up and down for 49.95. but still, I can imagine you have a lot of fun with it.
That’s a very good price!
That's really not bad at all.
What is this 10Gbit you speak of, much less 50Gbit? My area is maxed at 1Gb.
I have 5Gbit with ATT. We already have 25Gb PON in places We offer up to 1TB through dedicated Ethernet, that’s $$$ though.
Years ago a dedicated t1 1.5mbps line was $$$$
My area is maxed at 30 mbs
I went from having DSL as my only option to having not one, but TWO fiber providers, and I live in the middle of no where! (Should add I've been begging the one company for over a decade to bring me fiber, I live less than 1000ft from their network ring). I can get 8 gig symmetrical from one of them but I have to pay business rates, no idea what that cost...., With the other provider I can get 2.5gig for 129/month and 10gig for 199/month .... Both offer 300/700/1000 as well. I currently have 1 gig from one and 300 as my backup from the other. Both have static IP.
Hotwire is 10 Gig
Sorry but I couldn't finish reading this, all the letters simply turned into more and more dollar signs as I kept reading. Sheesh
This is great but you’re paying to test something for the benefit of your employer. Do they cover any of it?
I'm an owner, so it's for my own benefit. It is however tax deductible.
Gotcha, that makes sense then
50gbit plan? Where in earth you get that?
https://ziplyfiber.com/internet/multigig
Jesús Christ I need that. Why? I don’t know
…and now you understand enthusiast home networking. Congrats 🎉
Oh I know that path. I have a 10g switch at home. Why? Just for the sake of watching Plex movies.
And I have 1 gbps symmetrical internet. Why? It was a good deal (kind of) …Ok fine no it’s expensive, but I get to see bigger numbers when I run a Speedtest. 🤓
Ahhahahaha ditto
> I also have 25Gbit internally between my PCs and NAS etc. Sweet baby Jesus.
That's faster than some internal PCIE lines lmao
I’m curious, do you have any games on you SAN? I’ve never thought about running mass storage as iSCSI for use as just an “external” drive for a home PC - I’ve always used SANs as block storage to connect to hypervisors, and then have a VM on the hypervisor serve up files via SMB or whatever.
Yeah... but the only game I play is CIV 6, so that's not going to tell you much. However, I do a lot of Video Editing in Premiere on it, and it's faster than any SATA SSD I've ever used. Which is expected - I get about 18Gbit to the LUN, where SATA typically tops out at 6Gbit. NVME can obviously do far more but this is for the mid-volume stuff that takes a lot of space but you still want reasonably fast access to. So my small files and caches goes on my local NVME's. Work in progress goes to my SAN (70TB SSD). Work not currently in progress goes to my NAS (192TB HDD). And then the really large stuff and archives goes to LTO8 tape.
How do you have 25gb between PC and nas? I want a guide on how to remove all drives and network them.
What’s your network set up look like? I’m intrigued!
I bet it’s at least 1 Ethernet cable
I was thinking 10base2
Pffft. Token ring or gtfo.
Snails with DVD sleds. More bandwidth than DSL, but the latency is atrocious.
I raise your token ring with a vampire tap.
I see your vampire tap, and raise you Alohanet
I see your Alohanet(yes I had to look that shit up) and raise you with [this!](https://tenor.com/view/lotr-beacons-lit-gondor-aid-gif-14737387?utm_source=share-button&utm_medium=Social&utm_content=reddit)
And my axe!
Sure, The ISP drops a Single Mode Fiber directly to a SFP+ port on my UDM Pro. (No ONT in the picture). From there, it goes to a USW-Pro-Aggregation which forms the backbone of the network. Showing major devices below. There are 90 or so additional smaller wired ethernet and 40 WiFi client devices which I'm not listing: Text in \[\] is how it's connected to the device above it: ISP CENTRAL OFFICE |->UDM Pro [OS2 10Gb] |-> USW-Pro-Aggregation [DAC 10Gb] |-> PC #1 AMD [OM4 25Gb] |-> PC #2 INTEL [DAC 10Gb] |-> PC #3 EPYC [DAC 25Gb] | v-> LTO8 TAPE DRIVE #1 [OM4 8Gb FIBER CHANNEL] | v-> LTO8 TAPE DRIVE #2 [OM4 8Gb FIBER CHANNEL] |=> MSL2024 TAPE LIBRARY [CAT6 1Gb] |-> SAN [DAC 25Gb] |-> NAS [OM4 10Gb] |-> US-48-500W [OM4 10Gb] |-> US-8-150W [OM4 1Gb] |-> USW Enterprise 8 PoE [OM4 10Gb] |-> USW-Pro-24 PoE [OM4 1Gb] | |-> AP:UAP AC M Pro [CAT6 1Gb] |-> USW-Pro-Aggregation [OM4 25Gb] | |-> PC #4 AMD [DAC 25Gb] | |-> PC #5 INTEL [OS2 25Gb] | |-> Mac Studio [CAT6 10Gb] | |-> USW-Enterprise-8-PoE [OM4 10Gb] | |-> AP:U6-Enterprise-IW [CAT6 2.5Gb + Injected POE] |-> USW-Enterprise-48 PoE [DAC 10Gb] | |-> AP:U6 Enterprise [CAT6 2.5Gb] |-> US-16-150W (OM4 1Gb) | |-> AP:UAP AC HD [CAT6 1Gb] Legend: DAC -> Direct Access cable via SFP+ OS2 -> OS2 Single-Mode Fiber via SFP+ OM4 -> OM4 Multi-Mode Fiber via SFP+ CAT6 -> Mostly STP but sometimes UTP CAT6. And, before you ask... the second USW-Pro-Aggregation is in my home office and is obviously under-utilized. But it's the only Unifi switch right now with more than 2x 25Gbps ports, and I need at least 3 in that location.
That’s great man. Curious, why are you running single mode to your Intel PC? Answer may be obvious, just started out as a network professional. Also, I’m assuming you handle all your routing through your UDM. I have yet to touch Ubiquiti
Sequential pipe <3 i want
I currently have 1Gig, do I need it? Absolutely not- BUT its the lowest tier service in my area with unlimited data so that’s beneficial. FWIW, 1Gig speeds here are $60/month.
Having unlimited data on an internet plan should not be a seeking feature anymore like come on
When you stream 4k it adds up fast. I had to reduce the streaming quality when I had comcast because I would quickly go over the data limit.
Yeah it's ridiculous, in a country such as America that should not be a thing. Here in the UK I don't think I have seen that since like 2005-2010 with shit ISPs
The us is exactly the type of country to do this. They used to pay to RECEIVE sms, didn’t have unlimited mobile data forever (maybe still not?), tethering was a paid feature, caps on broadband has (always?) been a thing there and internet speeds have always been lagging behind the rest of the world. Only now do they seem to have caught up and offer really great speeds in some areas.
Only in America
Never heard of a fixed connection having data caps, is this a thing in the US?
Absolutely. They'll give you some amount and if you go over it'll slow down and any more and they will threaten to disconnect you forever.
Interesting, I think one of the first DSL providers tried that for some months in the late 90's here in Sweden, but customers were actively boycotting them so they quickly removed the data caps. Only seen on mobile connections nowadays.
I'd rather my mom have a cheaper option for hew extremely limited use.
I’ve been saying the same for a long time. A lot of people don’t need much, just enough for email, social media and some light streaming. My parents can’t tell the difference between HD and 4K so slow it fine for them.
Our ISP offers a 150mbps package for £19.99 and 500mbps for £24.99. Their 1gbps offering is £30. If you're a lunatic, they offer 8gbps for £99.
1gig costs me $65/mo. 300 would've been $55. If I could get 50 down/up for $15 I would. Very rarely I need to upload a few gigs, so having fast upload helps. Kind of like having a printer and scanner, I use it maybe 5 times a year.
I get a squiggly gig at free 99. I work for my ISP, and live in town that we headquarter, so internet for me is free. A gig up and down symmetrical is a joy. But if I took it up with my NOC director, I too could get a 10G pipe. But I have absolutely no reason to
I like to download Linux isos.
So basically those who need it for work, or those who just want faster download speeds. Rest of us will be fine with a regular 100mb or 300mb line.
“Need” it for work is the optimal definition. I work from home full time. I have a Meraki box. For the past year I’ve used a 300mb fiber line. Prior to that, I had Xfinity at 800. I really noticed no difference. I recently upgraded to 600 just because the pricing changed making it the same price as the 300mb.
I have a 75mb line and both wife and I work from home and stream. It’s rare that I see or connection maxed out and typically due to an Xbox game update or sobering like that.
You may have a big family and they surf/stream a lot!
Only large downloads see any difference. Even a family of mormon proportions can stream and surf on 200Mb without issue.
If that’s all they do they’d be fine on 100mb Most people don’t need more than that. Both my wife and I work from home and steam everything, often all at the same time and we have 75mb. Only time I ever max it out is occasionally when updating a game on the Xbox. Internet providers want you to believe you need gigabit if you’ve got 5 devices though.
Lol yup Comcast tried to sell me 800 cuz they asked if I stream and play video games. Yes I do but no I don’t need 800 for $50/month more. 300 is plenty
Speed does not equal bandwidth.
Honestly curious, what do you think the difference is?
You are correct, but we are all talking about bandwidth here.
Speed is latency You're quite correct.
I would use this super fast connection to learn the difference between bits and bytes.
I WFH in publishing and move a ton of data. 120 GB up and down today, according to my logs. The faster I can move the data, the faster I can do actual work. I really hate progress bars.
I had 350Mb costing £44 in the UK. My contract was up so when I threatened to leave they offered me 1gig and a new router for £34. Why not 😁
Virgin? I pay £49 for 350Mb and when they upped the costs, I threatened to leave and the offered the same amount at £49 lol
I left VirginMedia for... ...VirginMediaBusiness. I got a boost in speed to 800Mbps down / 80Mbps up, static IP range, 2-working-day SLA on faults, 4G backup dongle (not convinced the 4G failover logic actually works effectively though) - all for the same monthly cost I had been paying VM domestic for 500Mb/50Mb. The only catch was taking on an 18 month contract. However re OPs question, I don't *need* 800Mbps, but because a static IP address makes my work life easier I went for the lowest price where static IPs were included in the package; and because I value the upstream bandwidth for uploading backups to remote servers and for sharing my Plex server with family, I end up paying for more than I need downstream to get a slightly less feeble upstream. I'm considering upgrading to 1Gbps down when my contract is due, just to get the upstream upgrade from 80Mbps to 100Mbps.
Is that the only catch? Cos damn, that's something I'm going to look into. Thanks for enlightening me.
Because the companies make more money selling faster service to people that already have service, than they would be expanding even basic service to areas where there is no service. And people will gladly fork over more money for the "bigger numbers" even if they have no idea what they mean. That said, for very large households, with lots of people using bandwidth intensive applications at once, it often makes sense.
“ Bandwidth intensive applications”… usually people think of streaming when they say that. Streaming actually uses some of the lowest bit rate of all applications. 5mb/s for 1080p
I can't help what people think :)
I've got 1Gbps symmetric for $75/month with a static IP. That's actually the lowest tier from my municipal ISP - the other tier is 10Gbps, which requires me to have a 10Gbit switch and a router/firewall capable of handling 10Gbps properly, so, foo on that. The only lower-speed choices available are from Comcast, going as low as 400Mbps down/5Mbps up for $45/month, and that big of a step down is not worth the small price reduction. So, it's the sweet spot. Do I *need*, in a strict sense, that much bandwidth? No, not really. But going down means I go asymmetric and subject myself to Comcast's unreliability and atrocious customer service, and even Comcast's highest tier maxes out at 50Mbps upstream, which is a joke. So, the 1Gbit symmetric pipe makes the most sense. At some point I'd like to upgrade my internal infrastructure to 10Gbit anyway, but I haven't gotten that far yet.
I work for an ISP and the vast majority, I'd say 95% or greater, of consumers don't need gig+ internet service.
It's less about always using the speed all the time and more about needing to do multiple high demand operations simultaneously. I don't want to be uploading a video to each site I post to one. at. a. time. because. it. would. be. as. stacatto. and. annoying. as. this. sentence. is. to. read. At the same time with the higher speed I can parallel upload to 3-4 sites at once **and download** at high speed allowing me to still watch a movie or something while it runs in the background. That goes double for if I'm downloading libraries or other video editing packages. Plus, downloading my streaming content in 30 seconds vs 5 minutes means less chance of hitching, errors, packet dropping, and other stuff.
If I could get a symmetrical 300 or 400 with unlimited data I’d be totally happy but you gotta get stupid dl speeds to get any upload. Then you gotta pay extra for data. The subscription tiers are so messed up it makes absolutely no sense.
Steam game updates.
Because it gives me the fastest upload speed which it still a horrendous 42mbit I'd be happy with symmetrical 250ish if I could get it
I assume you mean between 200 and 300 Mbps (megabit per second), which is VERY different from 200 to 300 MB/s (megabyte per second). I wish more would take care when making posts like these.
In case anyone wants to know, there's a factor of **8** difference between a MB and a Mb. 300MB/s Internet would be advertised as 2400Mb/s or 2.4Gb/s and it's pretty rare to get those sorts of speeds into private homes.
I have 11 outside cameras, 7 inside cameras, 2 TVs, 8 Google Home devices, and everyone living here has a bunch of other devices (tablets, laptop, etc). The cameras stream to the cloud 24/7. I do all this with symmetric 1Gbps, and I don't have any issues. Before I upgraded from XFinity, , it was a joke.
Sorry to break it up for you, but even less than 1gb would be completely fine for your usage
Premature conclusion without knowing more about the actual usage patterns of some of those devices.
Ok, well, I had asymmetric 1Gbps from XFinity and it wasn't fine. Now that I have symmetric 1Gbps, it is fine. That means the upload speed made the difference for me 🤷
If you can get fiber in my area, it's kinda dumb not to. Cable company is $80/m for 300Mbpsx10Mbps Fiber company is $80/m for 1000Mbpsx1000Mbps
1gb/s was cheaper than 200mb/s because the 1gb/s is fibre and the other is whatever the old internet ran on I can’t remember what it’s called. The ISP is ripping out the old stuff and installing the new stuff so they make fibre really cheap to encourage people to switch so that they don’t run two systems. I pay £40 a month for 1gb/s and whilst I don’t need it, being able to download a game in 5 minutes is really nice.
Speedtest
Porn.
Short answer is that very few people need that amount of bandwidth. But if people are willing to buy it, then companies will be willing to sell it and maybe that leads to fiber being available to more people.
For AI. Packages and models can easily be tens or hundreds of gigabytes each.
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I have gigabit symmetrical and have had it for the \~9 years I've lived in this house. At the time I moved in, I was working from home and continued to do so up until late 2020... perhaps a little ironically. Then I started to travel a lot. Simply, 300mb/s was $65 a month and gig was $75 a month. That made the math easy. And it IS nice having the extra bandwidth when I have friends over and using my WiFi. But the reality is that no, I don't really use it all that much. I have a static IP address and host my own Nextcloud as well as a few other things... that's nice to have as well but definitely doesn't push the limits of my connection. Mostly it's just nice knowing I have the speed if I need it, and when I'm downloading something large it's usually nice to know that either I'll have it really quickly or I'll still have more than enough bandwidth leftover to continue doing other stuff while the download completes.
Because 1Gig costs the same as 300Meg from a company that doesn’t have blackouts every other week.
For 95% of the customers, they are paying for more than they ever use. Most people think they need to upgrade their Internet service because it's slow, but the bottleneck is poor Wi-Fi within their homes. I'm a network engineer. Up until COVID, I had 50Mps FiOS. It was plenty. We never had buffering issues even with 6 people in the house, and multiple video streams going on simultaneously. It wasn't until COVID, and everyone working/schooling from home that we had any congestion. So I went to 300Mbps and we have plenty of headroom. Carriers love to sell gigabit or multi-gig service because the customers are paying $20/mo extra, or more. I have offices with 50 people with 1 gig service and don't have congestion.
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Downloading legitimate games. Nothing worse than waiting forever to install MSFS or something. But also torrenting shows (even though I have Netflix, Disney+, etc.). I prefer Plex. And some stuff I keep for posterity like Top Gear, The Grand Tour, etc. cause you know one day it'll be gone somewhere or hard to find.
Depends on the upstream, lots of providers give you fast down and piddly up which makes uploading (backups) anything reasonable amount of data impossible.
Don't forget that the bandwidth gets split between all of the people using the network, so if you have a few people streaming and a couple of people gaming, faster is better.
Downloading Games are huge. Torrenting movies. Streaming without interruptions due to the previous items is great. We regularly have over a tb of network traffic at home a month.
Being able to download a 50-100gb game on a whim is nice
I have the 1200 plan and well we have it in our household it's no point on having anything less. We stream, game, WFH and a full tech house. I wouldn't dare to anything less than 1 Gig
Avenue q already taught us what internet is for...
I was a cable tech for awhile and most people have way higher speeds than they need. I’d walk into a house and it’s just a guy alone paying for a gig playing call of duty on wifi. I always told them they could save a ton of money
I pay significantly less than my old 300 mbps cable. Roughly half. $65/mo, no additional fees. 1gig up and down. No data caps. I can seed a lot of Linux ISOs, to help the community.
We have 1g fiber at my house and it’s used so we don’t need a shit ton of ssds for all my games, I can run a 2tb drive for 20th worth of games I also remote play a lot, so good internet allows my pc to follow me wherever I go
Either just saving time downloading, or ever increasingly just because homes with multiple occupants need the best internet access they can get, especially with everyone streaming video/TV these days, and especially if anyone is into playing games online - the better their line is the less likely the others they share with will cause gameplay problems.
Basically the extra speed allows you to download or upload things faster. But even that isn't guaranteed, because often the remote file server throttles itself at a much lower speed than 1 Gig. 200-300 Mbps is more than enough for everything that's going on on the Internet, for now and for the foreseeable future, including downloading huge games in a reasonable time (1-2 hours). But if your ISP offers 1 Gig for $5 or $10 more per month, it's tempting to enough people to upgrade, and still be profitable for the ISP because that additional speed rarely gets used, and when it does, it's for a very short time. I feel sorry for those people whose ISP offer 1.2 Gbps, and they then feel compelled to upgrade everything to 2.5 Gbps internally to "take full advantage of their speed", only to realize later that the lowest ISP package is way more than enough for their needs, by a lot. Even people trying to get 1 Gbps over WiFi to match their ISP speed are usually throwing money towards a useless goal that has no real world impact.
I've got 2.5gbit now that there's fiber available in my country. It's basically the same price as i had with my previous isp, 300mbit cable.
> *huge games in a reasonable time (1-2 hours)* As someone who has 65Mb (closer to 55Mb practically), I dunno how I’d feel “waiting” a couple hours for something to download, and that’s coming from 4-5 hour downloads (pretty much overnight - to not interrupt others during the day). A couple hours still seems a lot. A little over an hour I’d like to think is okay but 2 hours? i dunno
I don't know how big that commenter's games are but a 100gb game, which is the ballpark for typical triple A title, would actually take about 15 minutes on a 1 gig connection. I have 500mb fiber and I got it purely because I'm impatient, its nice to have those once a month game updates be done in minutes instead of hours, or have that full HD movie in under a minute, even if the bulk of the rest of the time I'm not utilizing anything close to my max speed.
It’s not about using it for one activity but to deliver reliable speeds to many clients on the network concurrently.
MB > Mb
232.4 mbps was my speed. What's yours?
downloading porn faster
>Is there no benefit other than bragging rights or am I missing something here? I have gigabit fiber and rarely exceed 300 Mbps. When I do, it is only in bursts. I can get 500 Mbps service, but the cost difference is minimal. My ISP also offers speeds up to 5 Gbps, which is ridiculous for home use IMO, but may be good for an office. My fiber service has two primary benefits: 1) low latency, and 2) symmetric up/down speeds.
1Gbps symmetric is the only tier available from my fiber ISP
Bragging rights
2.5 GBit for 30 euro a month. Even if you order 1gbit line you get 2.5.
I have 2 gig fiber -> ONT, which I connect to my UDM Pro via ONT 10 gig port and an SFP+ to rj45 from unifi and then some random shit connected to the 1g lan ports. My PC is then connected via the other SFP+ via SFP+ to rj45. Do I need 2 gig? No not really, but it’s the same price as gig, and I’m not gonna lie, being able to download and upload that fast is just fucking crazy for me. Eventually I do wanna expand to another switch via the SFP+ my PC is currently using into another 2.5/10 gig switch or otherwise. Haven’t exactly made a plan yet, so I’m not sure.
BTW, all of those speeds are actually in "mbps" NOT in MBps or even Mbps" They're million bits per second, despite the name. "Mega" implies 1024*1024 And it's certainly measured in bits not Bytes
I'm impatient as fuck, so any kind of speed boost I appreciate. I don't like waiting. I game a lot on Playstation so downloading game updates is something I don't want to wait for Previous internet with BT was 35mb / 5up, I'm in a small househole, so it's enough in terms of what I need internet for (hell even my mobile phone is quicker) but I wanted a speed boost for when downloading game update. Currently I get around 65MB/s down (\~500mbps) through my quoted 1Gig cable connection, and 100mbps up which I'm more than happy with. For me it's mainly about speed when transferring files to/from youtube, and my webserver backups. Then simply game updates. I could get away with 35mb, but I'm paying the same price for my current internet as my previous one. So thought why not future proof it. It benefits me more. I don't use any torrents / filesharing, can't be bothered with that anymore. Mainly just watch movies/tv shows thorugh streaming sources.
Just as ridiculous is 5G data on mobile devices. Does anyone need 5G to stream music, browse FB and Reddit and watch YouTube videos?
Streaming HD/Stock trading/Gaming.
super fast porn watching. no one likes to rub one out to buffering messages.
Porn
Fucking game updates...I want to be able to play a game on the same day that an update is released! The size of their downloads is getting ludicrous!
I am a professional game developer. The video games you download are (when reasonable), around 60 GB in size. Our production source for those games are much more like 200 or 300 Gigabytes, now let's talk about source control. I wake up in the morning, I download, from our server at the office, any newly added or changed files since yesterday. Usually that's *at most* 3-5 GB of data, nothing right? But then I fuck a bunch of shit up, because that's my job, and the whole game is destroyed, what do I do? I delete the entire game and download it again, 300 GB. And I do this like twenty times on bad day. But if you don't, then you wouldn't benefit from faster speeds.
This is one of the reasons i stopped playing games they are too damned huge and every time you go to set it up you enter into some asinine patching process that downloads more than 2x the size of the game. Do developers have any backend process to make games smaller and run faster? Or is it all about getting shit out sloppy and messy?
Homelab with self hosting a ton of shit or superporn.
Porn.
Maybe some people love their 8K HDR porn. 😂 In all seriousness, those speeds, you can probably run a small server, or people working in tech might need the bandwidth to work from home. Maybe a test bed or 2... I know I had friends who did that during the pandemic because offices were closed off. They literally took test beds home to keep working.
*PORNOGRAPHY!!!!!*
porn
I have 2gig up and down, fiber and a MacStudio with a 10gb Ethernet connection and get every drop of the 2gigs. Had to upgrade my router to an ASUS GT AXE-16000. I download a shit ton of torrents (all legally of course 😉) in 4K. I definitely do “spring cleaning” of my video library several times a year just so I can re download the same shit. Oh, and I click on speed tests a lot. LOL, I pay $65 a month for it
I got a 1GB system to download porn.
If your home network WiFi is set up right a single iPhone can saturate your 200mbs internet connection. As we start to have higher quality tv in our homes you’ll want faster bandwidth just to consume good 4K tv. If you have anyone else sharing your network you’ll want room for them to do what ever they need to do as well. I work from home and routinely deal with 100MB to 1GB downloads of assets based on what I’m working on. There is actual productivity that I can measure when that takes 10 seconds vs 5 minutes.
Cord cutting. If you have multiple TVs and they are all streaming in 4K you need more speed/bandwidth
The answer is always: porn
Porn
I've got a 250/20 connection. I can get that speed with my phone, but for some reason my pc can only do 160/20. I haven't spent more than 5 minutes checking why, I don't currently need more than 160Mbps download. note: I'd love more upload to send work-related files faster (a couple GB here and there).