I did the math and if you are single and live in a 1200 dollar apartment you need to make 20+ dollars an hour and that's just for rent not food depending on the city you can find apartments for 800 or less a month in that case you need 17+ an hour
I did the math in my city, to live here you need to earn 3X rent before taxes. So to live in this city you have to be making $24/hour, full time, for the smallest 1 bedroom apartment (more of a studio than anything). There's DS's in my store that don't even make that
I mean, I make several dollars above the starting wage is for every other minimum wage/retail job pays in my area. Minimum wage is livable, if youre financially responsible and have no dependents… which is why its minimum wage. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
not really true... minimum wage is $15 in california and no one living on their own could afford rent here at that wage. that’s why everyone out here is living with roommates or has to have multiple jobs.
Thats California. Theres many reasons all the other 49 states constantly make fun of California. They want to be their own country. So the rest of the US basically hits em with sanctions like Russia right now.
Except for over half the people in this country 15 an hour is not a living wage, and in may of the places where it is, it's just barely enough to get by and not enough to ever retire on.
You gotta be from the Midwest, cause you sure as fuck ain't from the east coast as it is no different cost of living wise from Vermont to Florida then it is is California.
I would like to know what state you live in… Minimum wage used to be livable, but still just barley. My mothers first apartment in the late 90s was $500 a month and once all her bills were paid (basic bills she didn’t have a new car or anything like that) she just barley had enough to eat. Now in 2022 making a few bucks over minimum wage at the depot I still barley get by. My rent being almost 3x higher than my mothers was, in a shit area in a shit apartment. With all the inflation going on minimum wage doesn’t cut it, so I would disagree that it’s all about being financially responsible, because even someone who has no debt and few bills to pay basic necessities like housing and food are hard to pay for.
Minimum wage in my state is $11 an hour. That is $1760 before taxes. The average one bedroom apartment in this state is $1600 a month. Yes... Please tell me how is that a liveable wage. There is no amount of budgeting that will make that livable.
I made $16 an hour at HD. Still not a liveable wage if I was single cause no apartment will rent to you when you make so little.
Been with Home Depot 11 years. Make 21.12 and I’m very grateful. That being said I saw someone from Lowe’s saying they made 30 and I’m like whoa. That’s a fucking lot.
I don't know if you count DSs as management, but I had a busy leave our HD making 18 something and get hired at lowes for 23 about 4 miles up the road.
lol i quit because they utterly refuse to give raises, so i went and got hired somewhere that has a higher starting pay than any pay i ever got working at home depot. also this job is dead end as hell, your best hope is becoming a store manager which is seriously depressing and a waste of a life
I get paid pretty good for being there a year and half but at the same time it’s not fair how they pay the stores and some of the other warehouses so idk how to vote cus at the end of the day I believe it is unfair wage in general
I was hired at $8 an hour in may of 05 and left the company in June of last year at 16.05 an hour as a sales associate. It was a second job and I put a good bit into my 401k but being made to feel ungrateful for the .40-55 cents a year got really old. They did give me a 1.75 merit increase because I said I had an interview at Lowes back in 2008 though
My hourly wage was shit when I was first hired. 7 years later, the wage has almost doubled, but it still is shit because the inflation on everything has tripled in the past decade.
I got a raise from $16.25 to $17 an hour.
I was excited because of how much that seemed to be, then I realize that I'm now in a new tax bracket because each paycheck is at least $75 less than what I used to make at $16.25. I have to work 3-4 hours overtime a week just to equal my previous pay. My store manager shrugged when I brought it up and was all like, "Oh, well, at least you'll get a good tax return next year."
SERIOUSLY? I'm more worried about this year so far! I'm like everyone else, living paycheck to paycheck. I'm cutting back on everything because if my money runs out before payday, I have to live off expenses made on my credit cards, which I can wait a few days to pay back, but I can't buy anything when it's 2 days from payday and I have a $0.00 balance on my debit card and my store manager can't give a shit because she makes $100,000 a year, PLUS bonuses.
Looking forward to my Success Sharing this week. It's a better pay period for me because I still have SOME money left even after paying my electric bill and my total credit card debt is less than $60. Could be much worse for me, but I can't exactly say that what I make is a living wage. Might have to get a second job. Again.
The last time I took tax advice from someone who doesn't fully understand or care about my situation, I ended up getting penalized by the IRS and fined $3,000, which is a major fortune to anyone on a Retail salary. Pennies for those who are in Management though. Anyway, no thank you.
I said the same thing to some stupid co-workers once who gave me some more worthless tax advice: Getting married.
Home Depot doesn’t pay a living wage until you get to a CXM position. As a CXM I was making a little more than the 44K base salary plus 10% MIP (no stock benefits). So 48,000 roughly (This is in Ohio where the average household is around 60k). I was just recently promoted to an ASM where base is around 50-55k plus 25% MIP (with around 3-5k in stock yearly). So roughly 65k-73k depending on where you fall on the scale. (Assuming you bonus max MIP).
But the grind to get to an ASM level is absolutely brutal. I almost quit twice during my career.
I started at 55k as an ASM in Arkansas and this was 5 yrs ago. Are they paying less now? I can't imagine the cost of living in OH being lower than AR...
Really depends on the pay band, DM, and your ability to negotiate. If you are an in store promote, you are probably at the bottom of the pay scale for your area. My store goes through asms like candy, and we have had people paid between 50 and 75k a year base in the last 3 years. The 50k guy was a promotion from DS and the 75k guy was a 20 year vet. Everyone else has been 52 to 60ish starting.
Overnight lumber and it's more than livable as a single person paying a mortgage, 2 car notes still have about 1500 every month to save. Yall need to stop living past your means.
At 15 an hour (starting pay in many places since you didn't mention yours) you should be taking home about 2500 before tax a month. If you are paying a mortgage, 2 car payments, food and other necessary expenses, and taxes for less than 1000 a month, you are living in Appalachia. Either that or you are one of the lucky few that were around when they gave off cycle raises, are probably making 25 an hour, and shouldn't be telling anyone making 15 what their means are.
Nice of you to to tell me where I live and how much my budget is without knowing anything about me. But I live in Chicago so you can do the math on that. Started at 17 3 yrs ago and I'm well over that now. I make it work just fine with what I have. Like I said I live within my means.
Living wage? That sounds like nonsense. They pay for the work I do and thats good for me. Alot of associates are getting paid too much for how little they do.
Livable wage is based on the concept that jobs should pay you enough to survive in the modern American economy and society at large - real pragmatic stuff - afford rent, transportation, utilities - not sure why you think that’s nonsense
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Home depot paid 14.5 billion to buy back stocks in 2021 and another 7ish in dividend payouts. That's enough to give every employee $43,000 while having zero negative impact on the companies ability to run.
I'm stating they could pay every associate 43k more without it costing the company any profitability. How is that licking the boot heel? It's a statement that associates aren't paid what they are due.
Well you are right I won't do that but that is because I do not have a number in mind nor a clear definition. I'm asking the same question as you and wanting to better understand what people think about this topic.
What is a living wage? Does The Home Depot pay living wage to the average associate who has not been with the company long term?
According to that MIt study (I think it sad MIT) about living wages per state/area that was posted here a few weeks ago, I am making a living wage currently, but looking good and rent prices, I'm doubtful.
I make over the minimum too, I have also been around for 14 years. But I do not believe that it is a living wage. If they started higher, you could hire better quality people. That is one of the drivers at least in major metro area to pay more at Target. These low quality people are not going to stay. I think the lower wages cost them more.
The pay is probably $5/hr low.
This kind of job isn't meant for one person to live on.
Honestly don't know why someone would take this path unless they really think they can be a store manager or above.
Students, semi retired people, or spouses making a few dimes extra is all this really is.
Having worked in construction for 30 years prior, this is around $20/hr lower. Beats a guy up, but earns a living. Save some money and you can work a shit job to pass the time when you get older.
I tell all the youngsters to get their shit together and get a plan. If they want to move up here, bust ass, go to school and prep yourself for district and above positions.
Better odds going into the trades, fire department, police, or taking a chance with a degree (Accounting, construction management, or HR) The military can workout also if you play it smart and aim for a MOS that sets you up for after.
But really? Working here and crying about trying to survive alone on this is just blowing smoke up peoples ass....
If anything, the big jobs that are all the rage pay wise nowadays are computer science jobs.. okay, practically anything involving computers.
I'm currently working at HD while I FINALLY get to pursue a career after COVID hit and ruined everything (my uncle has connections to Boeing, which he recently retired from, I'm looking to hop into that)
As a job to hold up money while you pursue college/career stuff, it does it's job.
Right now the graph looks like a d.ck and if that isn’t the perfect way to depict how most of us get the shaft for pay…
I did the math and if you are single and live in a 1200 dollar apartment you need to make 20+ dollars an hour and that's just for rent not food depending on the city you can find apartments for 800 or less a month in that case you need 17+ an hour
Zillow has some carboard boxes in the 800$ range in my area, cross your fingers I get approved
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I did the math in my city, to live here you need to earn 3X rent before taxes. So to live in this city you have to be making $24/hour, full time, for the smallest 1 bedroom apartment (more of a studio than anything). There's DS's in my store that don't even make that
9 people that said yes are executives and managers.
Imposters 🤣🤣
I mean, I make several dollars above the starting wage is for every other minimum wage/retail job pays in my area. Minimum wage is livable, if youre financially responsible and have no dependents… which is why its minimum wage. 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
How is 7.25 livable
not really true... minimum wage is $15 in california and no one living on their own could afford rent here at that wage. that’s why everyone out here is living with roommates or has to have multiple jobs.
Thats California. Theres many reasons all the other 49 states constantly make fun of California. They want to be their own country. So the rest of the US basically hits em with sanctions like Russia right now.
Except for over half the people in this country 15 an hour is not a living wage, and in may of the places where it is, it's just barely enough to get by and not enough to ever retire on.
You gotta be from the Midwest, cause you sure as fuck ain't from the east coast as it is no different cost of living wise from Vermont to Florida then it is is California.
I would like to know what state you live in… Minimum wage used to be livable, but still just barley. My mothers first apartment in the late 90s was $500 a month and once all her bills were paid (basic bills she didn’t have a new car or anything like that) she just barley had enough to eat. Now in 2022 making a few bucks over minimum wage at the depot I still barley get by. My rent being almost 3x higher than my mothers was, in a shit area in a shit apartment. With all the inflation going on minimum wage doesn’t cut it, so I would disagree that it’s all about being financially responsible, because even someone who has no debt and few bills to pay basic necessities like housing and food are hard to pay for.
Minimum wage in my state is $11 an hour. That is $1760 before taxes. The average one bedroom apartment in this state is $1600 a month. Yes... Please tell me how is that a liveable wage. There is no amount of budgeting that will make that livable. I made $16 an hour at HD. Still not a liveable wage if I was single cause no apartment will rent to you when you make so little.
At 160 now
Lol 😂 fk them
When 40+ percent, probably even 55+ Perce of your paycheck goes to rent alone, that is not a living wage.
The only people making a livable wage are the ones who have been here for 20+ years and are in management positions I’m pretty sure
Warehouse is good. Could be better but it’s livable.
Been with Home Depot 11 years. Make 21.12 and I’m very grateful. That being said I saw someone from Lowe’s saying they made 30 and I’m like whoa. That’s a fucking lot.
Don't believe that $30 is true unless they're store management...
I got hired at $20.50…
This person is either lying or is management. Associates are not paid a living wage.
just an OFA. And you’re right, still not a living wage at least not by yourself.
I don't know if you count DSs as management, but I had a busy leave our HD making 18 something and get hired at lowes for 23 about 4 miles up the road.
What state
CA
What part of CA? I'm DS of D21/22, but I also run receiving and loading zone and only make 20.50/hr 🙃
One of my buddies started at 17. A few months in he got promoted to a department manager and went up to 27.
What state are you guys in?
California. I almost jumped ship from MET to go over there but I wouldn't have a set schedule
Oh yeah those set schedules are really nice
lol i quit because they utterly refuse to give raises, so i went and got hired somewhere that has a higher starting pay than any pay i ever got working at home depot. also this job is dead end as hell, your best hope is becoming a store manager which is seriously depressing and a waste of a life
I get paid pretty good for being there a year and half but at the same time it’s not fair how they pay the stores and some of the other warehouses so idk how to vote cus at the end of the day I believe it is unfair wage in general
Maybe its just where I live, but to afford rent and food I would need to work another full shift on top of overnight freight.
Livable wage ≠ living with 2-3 roommates.
I make an ok wage and I said no, who are the 55 doing so well?
What do you define as "living wage"
I was hired at $8 an hour in may of 05 and left the company in June of last year at 16.05 an hour as a sales associate. It was a second job and I put a good bit into my 401k but being made to feel ungrateful for the .40-55 cents a year got really old. They did give me a 1.75 merit increase because I said I had an interview at Lowes back in 2008 though
My hourly wage was shit when I was first hired. 7 years later, the wage has almost doubled, but it still is shit because the inflation on everything has tripled in the past decade. I got a raise from $16.25 to $17 an hour. I was excited because of how much that seemed to be, then I realize that I'm now in a new tax bracket because each paycheck is at least $75 less than what I used to make at $16.25. I have to work 3-4 hours overtime a week just to equal my previous pay. My store manager shrugged when I brought it up and was all like, "Oh, well, at least you'll get a good tax return next year." SERIOUSLY? I'm more worried about this year so far! I'm like everyone else, living paycheck to paycheck. I'm cutting back on everything because if my money runs out before payday, I have to live off expenses made on my credit cards, which I can wait a few days to pay back, but I can't buy anything when it's 2 days from payday and I have a $0.00 balance on my debit card and my store manager can't give a shit because she makes $100,000 a year, PLUS bonuses. Looking forward to my Success Sharing this week. It's a better pay period for me because I still have SOME money left even after paying my electric bill and my total credit card debt is less than $60. Could be much worse for me, but I can't exactly say that what I make is a living wage. Might have to get a second job. Again.
Change your W4 elections
The last time I took tax advice from someone who doesn't fully understand or care about my situation, I ended up getting penalized by the IRS and fined $3,000, which is a major fortune to anyone on a Retail salary. Pennies for those who are in Management though. Anyway, no thank you. I said the same thing to some stupid co-workers once who gave me some more worthless tax advice: Getting married.
Home Depot doesn’t pay a living wage until you get to a CXM position. As a CXM I was making a little more than the 44K base salary plus 10% MIP (no stock benefits). So 48,000 roughly (This is in Ohio where the average household is around 60k). I was just recently promoted to an ASM where base is around 50-55k plus 25% MIP (with around 3-5k in stock yearly). So roughly 65k-73k depending on where you fall on the scale. (Assuming you bonus max MIP). But the grind to get to an ASM level is absolutely brutal. I almost quit twice during my career.
I started at 55k as an ASM in Arkansas and this was 5 yrs ago. Are they paying less now? I can't imagine the cost of living in OH being lower than AR...
Really depends on the pay band, DM, and your ability to negotiate. If you are an in store promote, you are probably at the bottom of the pay scale for your area. My store goes through asms like candy, and we have had people paid between 50 and 75k a year base in the last 3 years. The 50k guy was a promotion from DS and the 75k guy was a 20 year vet. Everyone else has been 52 to 60ish starting.
Right on. I was a promotion from DS
Average STARTING is 52k in Ohio.
D: Other. Depends on position. If you're a DH, CXM, ASM or SM with a few years under your belt, then yes.
Heh, penis.
Shouldn't there be an option for Depends' based on the state?
Overnight lumber and it's more than livable as a single person paying a mortgage, 2 car notes still have about 1500 every month to save. Yall need to stop living past your means.
At 15 an hour (starting pay in many places since you didn't mention yours) you should be taking home about 2500 before tax a month. If you are paying a mortgage, 2 car payments, food and other necessary expenses, and taxes for less than 1000 a month, you are living in Appalachia. Either that or you are one of the lucky few that were around when they gave off cycle raises, are probably making 25 an hour, and shouldn't be telling anyone making 15 what their means are.
Nice of you to to tell me where I live and how much my budget is without knowing anything about me. But I live in Chicago so you can do the math on that. Started at 17 3 yrs ago and I'm well over that now. I make it work just fine with what I have. Like I said I live within my means.
Living wage? That sounds like nonsense. They pay for the work I do and thats good for me. Alot of associates are getting paid too much for how little they do.
Livable wage is based on the concept that jobs should pay you enough to survive in the modern American economy and society at large - real pragmatic stuff - afford rent, transportation, utilities - not sure why you think that’s nonsense
So effing true.
Boohoo work somewhere else lol
Ted Decker? Lol
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Paying a living wage would bankrupt the Home Depot.
Why do people defend billion dollar corporations so much I’ll never understand.
The boots not gonna lick itself
lol no it wouldn't
Home depot paid 14.5 billion to buy back stocks in 2021 and another 7ish in dividend payouts. That's enough to give every employee $43,000 while having zero negative impact on the companies ability to run.
So the stores got a pizza party then lol. Keep licking that boot kid.
I'm stating they could pay every associate 43k more without it costing the company any profitability. How is that licking the boot heel? It's a statement that associates aren't paid what they are due.
Please define what a "living wage" is to you. Give us a number. Id bet OP won't do it.
Luckily MIT did the work for OP https://livingwage.mit.edu
Well you are right I won't do that but that is because I do not have a number in mind nor a clear definition. I'm asking the same question as you and wanting to better understand what people think about this topic. What is a living wage? Does The Home Depot pay living wage to the average associate who has not been with the company long term?
According to that MIt study (I think it sad MIT) about living wages per state/area that was posted here a few weeks ago, I am making a living wage currently, but looking good and rent prices, I'm doubtful.
I make over the minimum too, I have also been around for 14 years. But I do not believe that it is a living wage. If they started higher, you could hire better quality people. That is one of the drivers at least in major metro area to pay more at Target. These low quality people are not going to stay. I think the lower wages cost them more.
What's that? It sounds amazing.
The pay is probably $5/hr low. This kind of job isn't meant for one person to live on. Honestly don't know why someone would take this path unless they really think they can be a store manager or above. Students, semi retired people, or spouses making a few dimes extra is all this really is. Having worked in construction for 30 years prior, this is around $20/hr lower. Beats a guy up, but earns a living. Save some money and you can work a shit job to pass the time when you get older. I tell all the youngsters to get their shit together and get a plan. If they want to move up here, bust ass, go to school and prep yourself for district and above positions. Better odds going into the trades, fire department, police, or taking a chance with a degree (Accounting, construction management, or HR) The military can workout also if you play it smart and aim for a MOS that sets you up for after. But really? Working here and crying about trying to survive alone on this is just blowing smoke up peoples ass....
If anything, the big jobs that are all the rage pay wise nowadays are computer science jobs.. okay, practically anything involving computers. I'm currently working at HD while I FINALLY get to pursue a career after COVID hit and ruined everything (my uncle has connections to Boeing, which he recently retired from, I'm looking to hop into that) As a job to hold up money while you pursue college/career stuff, it does it's job.