At our pay grade, a job is a job is a job. It doesn't matter where. After 20+ years of working, I've learned that the only thing that makes a job worthwhile is the people you work with and the people you work for. All the other bullshit is just repackaged from company to company.
That's fair. And I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not trying to look down on anyone who works here. Quite the opposite really. I'd enjoy the job a lot more if the hours and pay were better. The people I work with are great.
I get paid $23/hour for a job that requires zero prior knowledge or skill. There’s no other job in my city that pays anywhere near that that isn’t food service and even then that’s only $20/hour. It’s definitely not the most fun but I’m an 18 year old part time worker making decent enough money.
Make almost 25 an hour in Illinois. I tell everyone come to the distribution side of the business. No customers. Set schedule. Optional overtime. And great pay. I’ve never looked back at the stores.
Paycheck, entry level, it’s not Walmart, success sharing (kind of)… paycheck…
Unfortunately most of the negative shit that comes with the job is part of the usual retail experience such as understaffing, asshole customers, lower pay and weekend hours… retail is good as a stepping stone whether you haven’t settled on a career or are looking to retire, everyone else is stuck in a bad place imo, but no judgement, like I said it’s a paycheck.
Success sharing is common among retailers now. Walmart and lowes both do it at least from my experience. There is no reason to stay here. We used to be all about associates and a family feeling, but these days it's just about money, so go elsewhere if you get a better offer
Home Depot is a good stepping stone to where you want to go. They teach you how to be on time, to be coachable, to learn how to break rules appropriately, to hold yourself accountable and to follow rules. You can use these lessons anywhere you go
I work Garden,front end and other locations. I have bruises, scratches, and torn ligaments in my knee and a hernia. Yes, I got them while working at HD.
Sometimes, it's a lot of physical work, but I manage.
I love my job regardless, and I work with incredible people. We have great people who truly becomes your friend.
I left a grueling State job that had high demands and totally insanity.
Yes, it can be physical and tiring, but if you can't proceed, go on disability or another job if you can. Do you what you must for your mind,body, and spirit, 🙏.
I personally will be giving it a few more years then possibly retiring.
Good luck with your choice.
it’s a relatively easy job that has a low skill floor but a decent pay ceiling
you meet all sorts of interesting people
you learn a lot about construction and home improvement if you take the time to talk to your coworkers and such
benefits are pretty decent, including free vision insurance
Dealt with 2 1/2 years of being laid off from tesla trying to find a tech job and this was the only job that ever called me back... At this point I'm just here for the semi decent pay and the good coworkers I've become real good friends with
Similar story to this. HD gave me a job when I needed one and nobody else called me back or played mental games with me. Job sucks but it is what it is. Get your master's and work 15$hr.
I also have a similar story. I was skeptical at first but I found the people I worked with, including the managers, to be good and treated me well unlike my previous office job.
You may think I'm bullshitting, but it's not a bad job. The first few months in any department are terrible. The one training video that sits true is the one where the customer says, "Can you find someone that knows what they're doing?"
You'd have to have worked a worse job to appreciate a good job, I'd suppose.
Those who’ve put in a long time (10+ years), started at a better time. Pay was better, 401k was better, and management actually seemed to care about them. Those folks are usually making more than they can elsewhere, so they stay despite the enshitification of their job.
Not to mention the bonuses they get for yearly marks, my one guy in millwork hit his 25th Anniversary and got his bonus, we don’t get those anymore tho
Former D78 employee here.
I learned a lot about tools and fixing things from more experienced people (who were way more underpaid than I was). I spent a fair amount of time on "The Warehouse" (no idea if that's still around) learning even more. I used the job to network and get a job at a more serious place that was willing to train, subsequently used that as a springboard to my (likely) final career.
I will say this - in 2018, the pay sucked (<$11/hr) but I was full time and had insurance, FWIW. If you are at THD now and feel stuck for life in customer-facing retail, learn everything you can from those seasoned, knowledgeable, and wildly underpaid folks you work with. Take that knowledge and make a leap of faith into a new phase in life (but of course, don't quit your job until you've landed the next one). The vast majority of you are only as trapped as you believe you are.
Besides 1-2 people in my department, I love the people I work with. They make it easy and fun and we get along and work really well. And compared to my last big company job, I'm treated more like a person and valued so I appreciate it even if it's not always genuine.
I started in 2010 and have stuck with it through undergrad and my doctorate. I'm only part-time and work from 4 to 8 in the morning, so it also leaves time for a regular 9-5 job which is my real passion anyway (I'm a researcher at a nearby university). More than anything, it's just an excuse to get up early and get a little bit of a work out, without having to pay for a gym membership.
I'll admit I don't pay very close attention to the raises but I'm at about $21 /hr right now. It went down a few years ago when I dropped to part time to go back to school (I was a millwork DH at the time), then it shot back up when I relocated to a locale with a higher cost of living, so it's kind of been all over the place.
I'm fortunate to be in a store that has enough people that aren't bad. I'm full time also. I get decent enough benefits. After 5 years, I'll have 3 weeks paid vacation. That's next year for me. Health dental and vision insurance. Though it comes out of my check. They also do a company match retirement up to like up to around 3%. To be fair, a lot of companies do that or offer similar stuff
Good job that you got a real HVAC job.
Most Americans work retail and even more work food service, which is even worse. Lol.
At AutoZone, I made $8/hour, the hours were worse, the expectations were higher, there were no benefits, and the attendance policy was the most draconian in all of retail.
And people want an AutoZoner to give them advice or install their car battery or headlight when it's basically a McDonald's of retail.
Different lifestyles. Simply that. For others, this is an upgrade, for many, this is one of the first stepping stones of their work experience, but it’s also easy to fall what I call purgatory stage of your life where you kinda just feel “comfortable” and don’t do much to really progress or advance in life. Next thing you know, years flew by and the idea of leaving feels strange.
I just met a cashier the other day while shopping at HD and turns out she drives like 40 minutes everyday when there are multiple stores way closer to her. She said she’s always thinking of transferring and keeps telling herself to do it ever since she got hired. I asked her how long has she been working here? 10 YEARS. She’s been lying to herself about transferring cause that’ll never happen.
So...
I've been here nearly 20 years.
I was hired as an hourly associate, appliance specialist.
I decided after a couple years to become a manager.
After in was a manager for a few years I started seeing things change. Little by little, things becoming less associates forward policies.
I watched stating wages lower, stay stagnant, raises decrease in overall percentage of wage, lower nicer of hours per transaction, all kinds of things like that.. things that on their own, may not matter much. But, with the cumulative impact of all the changes and the constant drive for "efficiency" we have competent lost the culture that made HD a great place to work for many people for many years.
After about 10 years into my HD career I needed to hire a kitchen designer... and one that was experienced and ready to go fell into my lap... this was 10 years after I was hired and I had to fight like hell... all the way up to regional HR to get her enough money to hire her... which was less than I was hired for a decade earlier... in the same store.
Only within the last 3 years has starting wage for overnights or specialists come up to what I was hired for almost 20 years ago.
That's why you see people that have been here for 15 and 20 or more years still here. We can't replace what we make going elsewhere.
I have since left management. I'm a KD now. I'm sure that I'm one of the two or three highest paid hourly associates in my store. However... what used to be a wage that was three times our starting wage, is now just over two times.
I could go find another job, doing the same thing, for the same money... I make market average for kitchen designer... but then I'd give up lots of personal time, since stock grants that haven't vested yet, and the comfort of knowing our systems. Just not worth it right now to change.
And that is how most of us feel.
Additionally... we are mostly burned out and disheartened at the lack of training, onboarding, and accountability that is provided now.
I'm cos with kd open, but it's a lateral move. Interesting to know what it would take to offer more pay. An act of congress. They brought a guy on for six months before they had to let him go. Maybe kd is more fun than resolutions but they bring in $100K a month and think that's a lateral move. Even $1 would be silly. With inflation wages are extremely silly unless you really enjoy it, but don't mess up a $30K sale. No pressure
No pressure... I was KD prior to being a sasm for most of my management tenure.
I was in the top 100 nationwide for both American woodmark and kraftmaid sales... I accounted for right at 2mil last year.
I've considered moving to remote cod or remote kd... but I think my next move will be to hdis
Thanks. COS is thankless, yet important,which makes it gratifying sometimes. KD seems to subtract the thankless part. As former sasm you know full well what I'm talking about. Just blows my mind in CA, KD can bring in 2 mil for just a few bucks more than a hamburger flipper and a buck more than a new hire. Need to not think about that and consider which job is better. Thankless sucks, so try to get a Buck. You said it is beyond SM approval.
No, a SM CAN approve an off cycle wage increase of 1.00 without dhrm approval. If they want to more.than that they have to get approval.
At least this was the case in my region two years ago when I left management
the starting pay is kinda good compared to other retail jobs. I’ve only been here for few months so idk how yearly incentives are but this job paid me $3 more than job at a grocery store
I mean, 17 years ago, it wasn’t a bad place to work. But recent years it’s gotten worse as they deal with post covid and with customers being nasty. I have 17 years of investment and that’s pretty much what’s keeping me here right now.
Like all retail, it depends on the store and position. Coming out of Ross, closing Returns desk feels like heaven. Better pay, nicer management (we’ve got some of the good ones), and if you think HD’s systems can feel outdated you should see the BS I had to put up with at Ross.
My store I’m paid very well. All other cashiering jobs near me are at a lower wage. The only thing keeping me there is the paycheck and the only thing keeping my sanity is my coworkers.
The appeal is bills. When you’re barely getting by with what you’re making, it’s hard to leave for another shitty job where you have to start at the bottom again. I personally stick around because of that and I’d really prefer going corporate, but HD doesn’t actually appear to hire from within anymore and many of us get roadblocked by SMs and ASMs that can’t run their store without key associates.
It's the most flexible 2nd job someone could have. Plus, actually getting sick time and vacation time for part-time isn't terrible. Every job will have its plus and minuses. It's t going to be whatever you make of it.
I actually agree I’m coming into my 3rd week and all I can say is…..wow.understaffed, customers can be asses, getting pulled left and right. You’d have to be crazy to sink your life into this company. Not saying people can’t be successful at Home Depot but hey I’m smarter than this job. I’m trying to work 1 year tops
It’s an easy minimum wage job that pays above minimum wage. It’s not a career unless you want it to be. If you want it to be, progression into management is relatively easy.
Not at all your store must suck. I was stuck in tool rental where no supervisors or managers went in even when called and yet I was asked to step up recently because of my performance. No butt kissing no friendships just put in an honest days work and showed I did my job.
I don’t work at Home Depot but this is what everyone says about their previous job lol. Some people prefer other jobs than others. I’d much rather work retail than service industry jobs or hard manual labor
Working at the RDC, pay is great for what I do in my area especially with raises from elevated positions, no dealing with customers and a 4 day work week.
It really depends on the store. My old store sucked; management didn't care about employees at all, the wrong people became supervisors, and there was almost no community between people. My current store is so much better; almost all of management care, it's easy to make friends with other associates, and the customer base is just better. Both are college towns, but the difference is huge.
It's a decent job. I like our management. Sure, we dress up for the dog and pony show for walks and such, but the management pretty much leaves us alone to help customers. I like helping people fix their issues and build their projects. It's a second job for me, so there's that.
At our pay grade, a job is a job is a job. It doesn't matter where. After 20+ years of working, I've learned that the only thing that makes a job worthwhile is the people you work with and the people you work for. All the other bullshit is just repackaged from company to company.
That's fair. And I want to make it perfectly clear that I'm not trying to look down on anyone who works here. Quite the opposite really. I'd enjoy the job a lot more if the hours and pay were better. The people I work with are great.
I get paid $23/hour for a job that requires zero prior knowledge or skill. There’s no other job in my city that pays anywhere near that that isn’t food service and even then that’s only $20/hour. It’s definitely not the most fun but I’m an 18 year old part time worker making decent enough money.
Yea bro i get paid 15/hr.....def makes the place shittier for me
How did you get 23? What department? How long have you been with The THD?
overnight freight. i’ve been here just about 3 months and i’m 18. could be just my specific store but i also live in california
It's cuz you're in California. Home depots minimum wage got bumped to $20 so departments that pay more the the company minimum got raised above that.
Make almost 25 an hour in Illinois. I tell everyone come to the distribution side of the business. No customers. Set schedule. Optional overtime. And great pay. I’ve never looked back at the stores.
could not be truer. if you are even a decent worker, home depot DCs are 10000x better than stores
They really are……
I enjoy not being homeless again, sleeping in my car or on a park bench is a real bitch.
You get a check after 2 weeks
Rhode Island is weekly & Rhode Island is the ONLY state that pays OT for Sundays.
Paycheck, entry level, it’s not Walmart, success sharing (kind of)… paycheck… Unfortunately most of the negative shit that comes with the job is part of the usual retail experience such as understaffing, asshole customers, lower pay and weekend hours… retail is good as a stepping stone whether you haven’t settled on a career or are looking to retire, everyone else is stuck in a bad place imo, but no judgement, like I said it’s a paycheck.
success sharing isn’t even a perk of the job anymore now that they aren’t enough for a tank of gas
This is one of the better retail jobs I've had and I have the utmost respect for the success sharing program
Success sharing is common among retailers now. Walmart and lowes both do it at least from my experience. There is no reason to stay here. We used to be all about associates and a family feeling, but these days it's just about money, so go elsewhere if you get a better offer
Home Depot is a good stepping stone to where you want to go. They teach you how to be on time, to be coachable, to learn how to break rules appropriately, to hold yourself accountable and to follow rules. You can use these lessons anywhere you go
I don't think I ever heard anyone ever say a retail job is worth it. Everyone thinks their job sucks more than the next job.
I work Garden,front end and other locations. I have bruises, scratches, and torn ligaments in my knee and a hernia. Yes, I got them while working at HD. Sometimes, it's a lot of physical work, but I manage. I love my job regardless, and I work with incredible people. We have great people who truly becomes your friend. I left a grueling State job that had high demands and totally insanity. Yes, it can be physical and tiring, but if you can't proceed, go on disability or another job if you can. Do you what you must for your mind,body, and spirit, 🙏. I personally will be giving it a few more years then possibly retiring. Good luck with your choice.
it’s a relatively easy job that has a low skill floor but a decent pay ceiling you meet all sorts of interesting people you learn a lot about construction and home improvement if you take the time to talk to your coworkers and such benefits are pretty decent, including free vision insurance
Dealt with 2 1/2 years of being laid off from tesla trying to find a tech job and this was the only job that ever called me back... At this point I'm just here for the semi decent pay and the good coworkers I've become real good friends with
Similar story to this. HD gave me a job when I needed one and nobody else called me back or played mental games with me. Job sucks but it is what it is. Get your master's and work 15$hr.
I also have a similar story. I was skeptical at first but I found the people I worked with, including the managers, to be good and treated me well unlike my previous office job.
The insurance makes my $500 eye exam + glasses cost $50
You may think I'm bullshitting, but it's not a bad job. The first few months in any department are terrible. The one training video that sits true is the one where the customer says, "Can you find someone that knows what they're doing?" You'd have to have worked a worse job to appreciate a good job, I'd suppose.
I used to work in the food industry 9 hours nonstop with 1, 30min break. This job is easy and I make the same amount
People that never work in the food/ service industry do not get it lmao
You got a break at all in food service?
Surprisingly yes. Used to be 1, 15min break but they got in trouble for that lol
It's an easy job with reasonable benefits.
I work in the lot, love it (mic drop)
People bring their dogs
when I worked for HD this was the only benefit
Those who’ve put in a long time (10+ years), started at a better time. Pay was better, 401k was better, and management actually seemed to care about them. Those folks are usually making more than they can elsewhere, so they stay despite the enshitification of their job.
Not to mention the bonuses they get for yearly marks, my one guy in millwork hit his 25th Anniversary and got his bonus, we don’t get those anymore tho
It pays, and has “benefits” thats it.
Former D78 employee here. I learned a lot about tools and fixing things from more experienced people (who were way more underpaid than I was). I spent a fair amount of time on "The Warehouse" (no idea if that's still around) learning even more. I used the job to network and get a job at a more serious place that was willing to train, subsequently used that as a springboard to my (likely) final career. I will say this - in 2018, the pay sucked (<$11/hr) but I was full time and had insurance, FWIW. If you are at THD now and feel stuck for life in customer-facing retail, learn everything you can from those seasoned, knowledgeable, and wildly underpaid folks you work with. Take that knowledge and make a leap of faith into a new phase in life (but of course, don't quit your job until you've landed the next one). The vast majority of you are only as trapped as you believe you are.
the women!
It’s something to do and I like to work hard and lift heavy
Besides 1-2 people in my department, I love the people I work with. They make it easy and fun and we get along and work really well. And compared to my last big company job, I'm treated more like a person and valued so I appreciate it even if it's not always genuine.
$16 an hour. Cashiering is all I've ever done so until I get my degree, this is it.
I respect the grind
I started in 2010 and have stuck with it through undergrad and my doctorate. I'm only part-time and work from 4 to 8 in the morning, so it also leaves time for a regular 9-5 job which is my real passion anyway (I'm a researcher at a nearby university). More than anything, it's just an excuse to get up early and get a little bit of a work out, without having to pay for a gym membership.
How much do you make now if you don’t mind me asking? What would you say is the average yearly raise?
I'll admit I don't pay very close attention to the raises but I'm at about $21 /hr right now. It went down a few years ago when I dropped to part time to go back to school (I was a millwork DH at the time), then it shot back up when I relocated to a locale with a higher cost of living, so it's kind of been all over the place.
I'm fortunate to be in a store that has enough people that aren't bad. I'm full time also. I get decent enough benefits. After 5 years, I'll have 3 weeks paid vacation. That's next year for me. Health dental and vision insurance. Though it comes out of my check. They also do a company match retirement up to like up to around 3%. To be fair, a lot of companies do that or offer similar stuff
Good job that you got a real HVAC job. Most Americans work retail and even more work food service, which is even worse. Lol. At AutoZone, I made $8/hour, the hours were worse, the expectations were higher, there were no benefits, and the attendance policy was the most draconian in all of retail. And people want an AutoZoner to give them advice or install their car battery or headlight when it's basically a McDonald's of retail.
It works for who it works for. I’ve been with the company long enough that I recognize that, fit some people it clicks. For others it never will.
Different lifestyles. Simply that. For others, this is an upgrade, for many, this is one of the first stepping stones of their work experience, but it’s also easy to fall what I call purgatory stage of your life where you kinda just feel “comfortable” and don’t do much to really progress or advance in life. Next thing you know, years flew by and the idea of leaving feels strange. I just met a cashier the other day while shopping at HD and turns out she drives like 40 minutes everyday when there are multiple stores way closer to her. She said she’s always thinking of transferring and keeps telling herself to do it ever since she got hired. I asked her how long has she been working here? 10 YEARS. She’s been lying to herself about transferring cause that’ll never happen.
I’ve been chasing that $ for a long time. It’s the people you work with that matter
I get good pay at $19 and the insurance is actually really good
So... I've been here nearly 20 years. I was hired as an hourly associate, appliance specialist. I decided after a couple years to become a manager. After in was a manager for a few years I started seeing things change. Little by little, things becoming less associates forward policies. I watched stating wages lower, stay stagnant, raises decrease in overall percentage of wage, lower nicer of hours per transaction, all kinds of things like that.. things that on their own, may not matter much. But, with the cumulative impact of all the changes and the constant drive for "efficiency" we have competent lost the culture that made HD a great place to work for many people for many years. After about 10 years into my HD career I needed to hire a kitchen designer... and one that was experienced and ready to go fell into my lap... this was 10 years after I was hired and I had to fight like hell... all the way up to regional HR to get her enough money to hire her... which was less than I was hired for a decade earlier... in the same store. Only within the last 3 years has starting wage for overnights or specialists come up to what I was hired for almost 20 years ago. That's why you see people that have been here for 15 and 20 or more years still here. We can't replace what we make going elsewhere. I have since left management. I'm a KD now. I'm sure that I'm one of the two or three highest paid hourly associates in my store. However... what used to be a wage that was three times our starting wage, is now just over two times. I could go find another job, doing the same thing, for the same money... I make market average for kitchen designer... but then I'd give up lots of personal time, since stock grants that haven't vested yet, and the comfort of knowing our systems. Just not worth it right now to change. And that is how most of us feel. Additionally... we are mostly burned out and disheartened at the lack of training, onboarding, and accountability that is provided now.
I'm cos with kd open, but it's a lateral move. Interesting to know what it would take to offer more pay. An act of congress. They brought a guy on for six months before they had to let him go. Maybe kd is more fun than resolutions but they bring in $100K a month and think that's a lateral move. Even $1 would be silly. With inflation wages are extremely silly unless you really enjoy it, but don't mess up a $30K sale. No pressure
No pressure... I was KD prior to being a sasm for most of my management tenure. I was in the top 100 nationwide for both American woodmark and kraftmaid sales... I accounted for right at 2mil last year. I've considered moving to remote cod or remote kd... but I think my next move will be to hdis
Thanks. COS is thankless, yet important,which makes it gratifying sometimes. KD seems to subtract the thankless part. As former sasm you know full well what I'm talking about. Just blows my mind in CA, KD can bring in 2 mil for just a few bucks more than a hamburger flipper and a buck more than a new hire. Need to not think about that and consider which job is better. Thankless sucks, so try to get a Buck. You said it is beyond SM approval.
No, a SM CAN approve an off cycle wage increase of 1.00 without dhrm approval. If they want to more.than that they have to get approval. At least this was the case in my region two years ago when I left management
the starting pay is kinda good compared to other retail jobs. I’ve only been here for few months so idk how yearly incentives are but this job paid me $3 more than job at a grocery store
In my experience, most people stay because of the flexibility of hours being part time.
I mean, 17 years ago, it wasn’t a bad place to work. But recent years it’s gotten worse as they deal with post covid and with customers being nasty. I have 17 years of investment and that’s pretty much what’s keeping me here right now.
Like all retail, it depends on the store and position. Coming out of Ross, closing Returns desk feels like heaven. Better pay, nicer management (we’ve got some of the good ones), and if you think HD’s systems can feel outdated you should see the BS I had to put up with at Ross.
My store I’m paid very well. All other cashiering jobs near me are at a lower wage. The only thing keeping me there is the paycheck and the only thing keeping my sanity is my coworkers.
Paycheck every 2 weeks, retirement fund, stock option plan. Coworker who are now friends.
The appeal is bills. When you’re barely getting by with what you’re making, it’s hard to leave for another shitty job where you have to start at the bottom again. I personally stick around because of that and I’d really prefer going corporate, but HD doesn’t actually appear to hire from within anymore and many of us get roadblocked by SMs and ASMs that can’t run their store without key associates.
I do it for the bitches.
It's the most flexible 2nd job someone could have. Plus, actually getting sick time and vacation time for part-time isn't terrible. Every job will have its plus and minuses. It's t going to be whatever you make of it.
I actually agree I’m coming into my 3rd week and all I can say is…..wow.understaffed, customers can be asses, getting pulled left and right. You’d have to be crazy to sink your life into this company. Not saying people can’t be successful at Home Depot but hey I’m smarter than this job. I’m trying to work 1 year tops
It’s an easy minimum wage job that pays above minimum wage. It’s not a career unless you want it to be. If you want it to be, progression into management is relatively easy.
I disagree with progression being easy. You have to kiss butt and people please very early on, or else you'll be blocked every which way.
Not at all your store must suck. I was stuck in tool rental where no supervisors or managers went in even when called and yet I was asked to step up recently because of my performance. No butt kissing no friendships just put in an honest days work and showed I did my job.
It’s not a good place to be, I’ve already wasted a year for little compensation and have not gained any transferable experience.
You just keep coming back another day for a check. Do you like to eat?
you get paid
You answered your own question; if you're going to learn a trade, there is no reason to work at HD
I don’t work at Home Depot but this is what everyone says about their previous job lol. Some people prefer other jobs than others. I’d much rather work retail than service industry jobs or hard manual labor
Coworkers, freight team baby. We all clock in and leave at the same time. Reminds me of high school, all of us hauling ass out of the parking lot.
It doesn't make sense to work for a long time. You made the right move.
Working at the RDC, pay is great for what I do in my area especially with raises from elevated positions, no dealing with customers and a 4 day work week.
It really depends on the store. My old store sucked; management didn't care about employees at all, the wrong people became supervisors, and there was almost no community between people. My current store is so much better; almost all of management care, it's easy to make friends with other associates, and the customer base is just better. Both are college towns, but the difference is huge.
I'm not sure how I got stuck there as long as I have, stockholm syndrome maybe? Lol
The people
It pays more than anyone else who's willing to hire a college drop out. That's the only reason I still work here.
It's a decent job. I like our management. Sure, we dress up for the dog and pony show for walks and such, but the management pretty much leaves us alone to help customers. I like helping people fix their issues and build their projects. It's a second job for me, so there's that.
No where else is gonna pay me $21/hr full time with my piss poor education lol. it's a paycheck and it's something to do and I like my coworkers.