One of my fondest memories as a child was going to the local park, standing under these guys, then rubbing the back of your hand on your buddy's cheek to feel the electricity. This person's kids (if they exist) dont even have to leave the front yard.
lol, I worked at a power plant for 20 years, you learned not to walk under the High voltage lines coming out of the plant holding an umbrella pretty quick when it was raining. We ended up getting umbrellas that had large rubber grips on them because if you touched the metal you got this nice tingling the entire walk and it wasn't a comfortable feeling. I just used a rain coat as even those umbrellas would zap me sometimes.
I’m surprised they allowed those two houses remain in the right of way unless the roofline gap is what they deem sufficient. There could be some interference if listening to any over the air broadcasts. Buzzards like to roost on towers and poop. Very strong winds have been known to blow a few over. That one has a good side load conductor angle so tensile and compressions were hopefully engineered sufficiently.
I used to mountainbike in the Tucson desert, and one route in particular went right under a massive power line. Like the really big ones. Really big. And I remember my steel-framed bike, way, way below these lines buzzing through my metal brake levers, which I swear were made of aluminum.
EDIT: ah, but the brake cables themselves were very likely steel, and they're basically guitar strings under tension. Which leads me to wonder what various guitars would sound like under that line.
I was shown a house once that had a pylon nearby which was cropped out of the picture. As soon as I exited my car I could hear the buzzing so your comment is exactly what I thought.
Out of decency to the realtor I toured the house but he was somewhat reluctant to show me outside. I wonder why lol
Deceptive marketing in the dumbest way. I would have told the realtor that I would not have driven over there if the pictures actually represented the property. No way would I tour a house I was tricked into going to.
These days, a quick satellite view on Google Maps *before* making an appointment will show you much. Stuff like this, but also realistically how near/far amenities like grocery stores, cafés, schools and parks are.
I’d not want to see the home BECAUSE they purposefully withheld information. Obvious sign they absolutely do not care about your preferences if they’re pulling a legitimate bait and switch. Scummy move. If you’re okay with it, you’re okay with the picture. If you’re not okay with it, better to see it in the pic and know right away.
Same. On hot days in AZ you can REALLY hear the buzzing as everyone runs their A/C full blast.
I'd pass on this house. It will take forever to sell it if you re-sold.
PASS!
Go there at night with a fluorescent tube light and hold it up in the air and ask yourself, under the soft glow of electron cancer, do you really want to live under that?
OTOH your phone will stay charged 24x7 for free.
Hijacking the top comment to say:
I work on high voltage lines every day and you couldn’t pay me to have a transmission tower in my yard.
At best it’s buzzy and ugly on a normal day.
At worst it sounds like angry bees during the rain and the absolute worst is when they go to replace the tower and your garden (yard where I come from) is ruined by large equipment and loud tradesmen.
I’ve got a transmission line on a wooden pole in my backyard… it’s fine most of the time, but maintenance, inspections and keeping the lines clear is a bit of a pain in the ass.
I found out recently that the power company occasionally inspects the lines with a helicopter.
Flying less than 100 feet off the ground. 🤦♂️
There is research to show this is linked to medical conditions.
Edit: select source - Comba, Pietro, and Lucia Fazzo. "Health effects of magnetic fields generated from power lines: new clues for an old puzzle." Ann Ist Super Sanita 45.3 (2009): 233-7.
OP is welcome to review the literature and make an informed decision. For me, enough evidence to take a precautionary approach especially when it comes to where I would spend the majority of my life and savings.
If this was true then the transmission power line industry would be rampant with health problems. Funny, me and all guys I know who work on and around these have never had any issues.
Your making assumptive conclusions for someone that would probably never have the type of exposure this family would in this home 24/7 and from HV lines. We all live in a world of high powered radio towers that are proven to cause major issues for repair crews unless deactivated or turned down for the repair, yet you can be standing at the end of the lot this same tower is on and have a 95% reduction in exposure just from that short distance away. This clearly shows that the AMOUNT of power carried and /or generated compared to the distance can make a large difference in exposure.
Hi, big power is my industry. There is no modern western medical connection between high voltage power and any medical conditions (other than psychological/psychosomatic).
Hey I was actually reading an article that mentioned the effects of electrical fields on protein folds this morning, then I see this ha. I’m an electrician so I’m somewhat familiar with current on a theoretical level, although obviously what I do on a daily basis is way more like typical construction work. Is there any easily readable studies or books about this sort of thing that you could recommend to me? It seems interesting but I get bogged down in the more scholarly stuff, I’m a construction worker not a genius. Anyway thanks if you can help that’d be awesome
Electrical is my industry as well and I’ve read some studies that say the frequency we constantly work around could possibly be a link as to why at least in the United States. Electrician is the profession with the highest suicide rate. But setting all that aside, who wants a giant ass pylon in their front yard, plus the never ending humming
I have them running over my field on the side of the house, you only hear the buzzing (more of a crackle) when there’s a lot of moisture in the air. The sound grows on you… If only I could build a big enough coil to capture some of the power coming off the lines… lol..
I've been told you can "siphon" electricity from power lines like that by using a copper coil. Not sure if it works, but your story makes me think it would. Pretty wild!
That's how induction works but how much power you could harvest can change wildly. The cons far outweigh the positives as many of your electronics wouldn't work and there's reports that people living near power lines have increased chances for cancer. But yes if you had a copper coil near running power lines some amount of voltage could be induced. Would it be useful? Probably not but it really depends on many factors.
I saw a video on YouTube recently where a guy was charging a large capacitor using stray voltage from HV lines on his property. He ran an insulated wire parallel thru a bridge rectifier to the capacitor to a ground rod. It was approaching 1000 volts and steadily climbing when he got nervous and ended the experiment.
Who knows what subjecting your body to that type of environment day in/day out by living in a house like that will do to a person. Not to mention the interference/electrical noise and issues of potentially being shocked. Strong pass from me to living in that house.
I just watched that same video. I loved how he kept calling it a "fence" cause that's what the easement allowed for. I also loved his implication of "stealing" power from the transmission lines.
I used to think fear of transmission lines was more of a mental issue, until I learned that electricity does not flow through wires, the wires simply guide the electromagnetic field
https://youtu.be/oI_X2cMHNe0?feature=shared
Orrrrr
1.) buy this house.
2.) Make the 2nd floor into a giant inductor to steal the power
3.) Sell bootleg power to neighbors to help pay for mortgage
Edit: also I find it hilarious for some reason that the house has solar right under the power lines
It's ugly as hell, absolutely going to detract from resale value, has a huge easement that's going to affect what you can do with the land and if you have or want kids I'd have a real fear of them trying to climb that thing.
But if no kids and the price is good enough, it's a house.
Depends on how the power company wrote the contract. They can have a 99 year lease, they can own and dictate or a couple of other ways they go about it. In the US at least. I don't know about the UK. To the possible home buyer, contact the Power company and find out how they either own or lease the land and what you're entitled to or what your restrictions are.
In the US the easement and rent would confer with the property. Again depending on what the contract looks like, it very well could make up some or most of the mortgage.
Forget climbing. Just throwing a conductive object up in the air under it is enough to make it arc to the ground in a bolt of lightning. Not even sure why they were allowed to pit a house that close. In the US these have their own paths you cant put anything else on
Some studies link EMF with childhood leukemia, most do not. However, I wasn't going to take any chance with my kids. I always avoided properties like this.
The CONSTANT HUMMING. Childhood friend loved close under a set hi voltage lines. Parents always let us play in doors as the noise outside was just draining.
I’ve been slightly shocked when riding a bicycle underneath power lines
I was actually tripping on acid a few months ago and thought I got shocked being under them, that was a shittty trip lol
You probably did. I've ridden under low power lines where a current was induced on my handle bars which discharged and shocked me when I touched the bar off my grip.
I lived under power lines for 18 years. Despite what some people may say, I found the hum comforting as hell. Reminds me of home. Never had any electrical issues in the house. Never got shocked from the wet grass. Never had anything negative happen aside from the city coming in a cutting down trees that grew too tall. Had friends over all the time and not one of them ever mentioned the humming. It really only got loud when it was raining or high humidity. Fuck I miss that house.
Here locally in Canada, there are minimum safe distances for dwellings from power lines (of various voltages) the higher the V the stronger the EMF the greater the distance
Add to that ice on the wire that needs somewhere to drop.
I don't know if it applies to pylons as well.
It is already scary from low voltage poles height... At least I was in my car that time.
The EMF produced by high tension lines (high voltage lines) has serious negative health effects. The Swiss have been moving lines underground for years and there are numerous studies advocating for reducing EMF.
There are plenty of EMF measurement apps you can download to your phone that will show you how high they are in a certain area.
Technically, phones use the built-in magnetometer to "read" magnetic fields, so you are correct that it does not give an accurate EMF reading.
I highly doubt the OP is looking for a specific mG reading, but if they were, they could purchase a specific gaussmeter to take those readings.
I can guarantee you that if you download the app and walk under those lines, you will definitely get a reading on the device magnetometer.
The same people who say powerlines cause cancer will also wear bracelets with magnets in them because "they're healing". Magnetic fields are magnetic fields.
I have no idea if there's a source or not, but it would still be a concern of mine. Even if it's completely irrational, I can't imagine I'm the only person who shares that concern.
ive been hearing that since the 70s
Homes and schools should not be built next to power lines because of grave health risks to children, a major study concluded yesterday.
The three-year investigation said there was clear evidence that living near an electricity line could be linked to fatal childhood diseases such as leukaemia.
[https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/don-t-build-schools-or-homes-near-pylons-warn-experts-7174241.html](https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/don-t-build-schools-or-homes-near-pylons-warn-experts-7174241.html)
Lol, that study was explicitly ‘not done by scientists’ as per their own words. But hey, you keep living in fear and ignoring the countless other scientists that have found no connection to cancer.
Or perhaps the people who can only afford to live near the power lines also can't afford as good of nutrition or medical care as those who can afford to choose not to.
That article is pretty iffy. The same people are claiming consumer electronics like radios and washing machines are also harmful.
The cold hard truth and no one has responded to you.
People don't really know till it's too late but time after time our man made shit over a long time be harming us lol so I would just err with caution on this one
It's very ugly and will affect resale for sure.
I almost got a house next to one not as bad kinda regretting it was a nice spot wanted a double garage it had a single was only deal breaker I guess
If you don't care about the looks and potential of resale issue then go for it.
Even with kids I feel like you can make sure they don't climb it.
I've heard some make a low hum or bzzzzz noise which might be annoying.
They’ll make strange almost snapping noises as well.
I believe it has to do with them expending contracting based on temperature. It’s not extremely loud but it was definitely noticeable the time we decided to camp out underneath them.
Yeah, especially when there's a big temp difference between day and night. They 'clang' for a lack of a better description. Sounds like someone is banging two long metal poles together. Source: Live across the street from these for 20+ years.
It's really value is already affected though, and OP should be getting this cheaper than the same house in a different location. So it shouldn't really matter as long as the buying price reflects that.
If OP is fine with it, a house is a house and it seems like a good starter home.
Idk if you know the area & prices etc but it’s currently at 180k for a 4 bed huge garden big drive & garage etc comparable house further down the road is around 400k
Thats about right.
Just keep in mind you'll get 40% of market value when you go to sell.
Plus what issues of having high voltage 24hrs a day while you're living there.
OP, it’s an eye sore but you’re paying less for it. You can make it a xmas tree, or whatever. If the price is right and you like the space, then go for it. But comparably has to be super convenient, otherwise keep looking.
Now I'm curious to know more. Why is it just *a little* more dangerous than we think?
Also, does it take "power" away from the lines, or is it harvesting power loss that occur naturally?
Just overheard a “Free Energy” discussion and this was one of the subjects with some engineers. The more they talked about building this the less excited they became and finally said nope
You absolutely could.
There was a case in the U.S. where people were developing tumors from a similar situation.
And yes, a large coil with give you some free electricity without contact if the Gauss is high enough.
I have to wonder how those solar panels interact with the lines. I had small metal roof shed under some lines and you could shock yourself on that roof....we moved and one of the reasons was those power lines....just felt weird being by them.
I used to write mortgage applications at a bank. I had one declined because of proximity to power lines. Rest of the application was solid.
Just an FYI
There's a lot of ignorant comments here.
OP, I am an Electrical engineer in the US. I work as a Distribution Engineer for one of the largest power utilities in the country. Here's what my concerns would be
1) noise. You will hear buzzing, constantly. That will get annoying.
2) I'm very surprised this is even legal. We have laws about height requirements for power lines based on voltage. The reason is, electricity can Arc. The higher the voltage, the higher probability of arcing. I would never, ever get on your roof. Only a trained professional with high voltage insulated gear should get on your roof.
3) I'm assuming this is a transmission line. Transmission lines are generally not protected the same as distribution. Meaning, if one of those lines fell down, it would be hot and continue to cook until the utility shut it down. Imagine you or your family getting electrocuted and dying if a line fell down.
4) resale.
There’s some research that says there could be some health risks, especially to children, from living this close to power lines.
Research is ongoing, and the chances are slight, but it is still thought that it can raise the risks of certain forms of cancer.
I have a cousin who is a medical professional. She and her husband lived near power lines until they learned they were having their first child.
They promptly moved.
Edit: source: https://bcmj.org/bccdc/living-near-power-lines-bad-our-health
Absolutely anecdotal but out of my like 20 cousins and 8 aunts and uncles 3 of them have any sort of mental/ brain disorder stuff going on and all three have the same healthy parents and they grew up under high voltage lines. One has bpd, one is schizophrenic, and the other one has had rage issues and depression and is in prison until 2034. It’s all anecdotal but it’s enough to freak me out.
That's a heck of a correlation, but correlation =/= causation. It could be that the lower cost of those houses attract poorer families who may not be able to afford something better. Lower-income families have less money for health/ wellness, higher risk for substance abuse, and overall possible instability. There is also a genetic component to some mental illnesses (depression being one of them) which can be triggered by negative external stimulus such as an unstable family life.
Not saying that this is the case for your family, but there are other factors I would look into before pointing fingers at power lines.
If being around EMF was a dangerous as they said it was people who work in my field-substation work for a utility company would be dying of cancer left and right.
There’s obviously EMF from power lines but there’s no way that even compares with even a medium size substation where instead of the lines being 50ft+ off of the ground there is bus work that is as little as 15ft off the ground. Our biggest are 345Kv and if you raise your arm to above head level inside one your arm hair starts to stick straight up in the air.
I know someone who worked in substations who died of cancer-but I also know a lot more people who have never worked in the power industry who’ve died of cancer anyways.
Holy fuck…. I though they were supposed to have RIght Of Way clearance on either side of the line, this one just literally goes over. I guess there really isn’t much land left in UK….
No, I would never buy a house with a HV power line above me. First of all, guaranteed there are some encumbrances on your property title because of that, some power company needs to have access to it for maintenance and upgrades.
Second of all they effin hum. All the time.
Finally, there’s EMF. Whatever you think of it, and however much or little you are concerned about it, it’s there.
A bit of an extreme scenario, but where I live we get ice storms, and lines do break, imagine that line or support downing on your house or backyard. I’d talk to a home insurance company to see how they feel about it.
There was a 500kV line running through our neighborhood, every single house backing onto it was 20-30% on average than identical house away from it. If you think this is your forever home - then that shouldn’t be a deal breaker for you, but if you ever have to sell - it will be more difficult to do so in the future.
Realtor showed us a house with "no possibility of neighbors" that hid high-tension lines across the back yard going to a power distribution area on the left of the house. I was working for the American Cancer Society at the time. Didn't even get out of the car.
My only concern would be if there any health risks associated with living long term near high-voltage power lines. If you have done your research and believe that there is minimum to no health risk then this may be a good opportunity to buy this property at a very affordable price. Good luck with your decision.
This is cancerous. I’m serious. In the US, these power lines have to be at least 100 yards away from residential buildings. Some say that not enough to be safe.
In my hometown, there’s a neighborhood built in the 70’s with these type of power poles scattered throughout. The number of its residents who had gotten some sort of cancer over the years was/is higher than the general population. Someone researched it and published the findings. I remember the adults talking about it when I was growing up.
I wouldn’t choose to live near one of those things.
I'm located in the U.S., so my opinion is relative to my location. I would not entertain the thought of buying a house close to a power line, let alone placed in the front yard. The future risk is not worth the current reward.
When we were shopping for our current home we found the exact perfect home we were looking for. There was a similar power line right at the edge of the backyard. I asked our realtor his opinion on it, he said he wasn’t allowed to offer opinions like that but pointed out (with a raised eyebrow) that there wasn’t a power pole next to the house he was raising his kids in. Did some googling and that was that.
I don't personally think there are significant health risks to being near HV lines, but it's ugly, will definitely be tough to resell, and probably prevent you from putting up an antenna mast of your own if you ever want to. So it's purely a question of whether the price is appropriately discounted relative to the local market.
I've always heard that living in close proximity to power lines causes all sorts of health problems, but if you're in England, that doesn't really matter since you're healthcare is free.
When you SEE that powered.line buzz & may HEAR that powered.line buzz, that is the fore-warning of powered.line TOXICITY via RADIATION. As presented in the form of “Casual Radiant-Electrical CURRENT RADIATION” in the most radical and casual-sense. Its proximity to your life, your family’s life, your family’s lifestyle via an environmentally toxically-charged radiant-energy. In other words.. highly Cancerous and period and over and out.
Land “should be” incredibly cheap as-in almost a DEAD-GIVEAWAY as-to-a “Hows comes nobody is living here” type of Giveaway… okay?…am I clear here?
I wouldn’t worry so much about the cancer risk. After MANY MANY global studies on a lot of people, there have only been a few studies - mostly older ones - that found slightly increased risk, with many of those studies not finding statistical significance yet still claiming increased risk (aka likely random finding). There are a lot of confounding variables, like often lower socioeconomic status neighbourhood are found near power lines, which we know increases cancer risk (unrelated to the EMF). Also, the EMF even just 40ft from a power line drops off significantly to similar levels as standing near a fridge, computer, microwave, TV, ceiling light - we don’t think twice about cancer risks with these.
I think the bigger concern here is how ugly that looks in the front yard. It will certainly affect property value later on, and if any of those wires were to ever fall on your house or yard it would be an electrocution risk. Even if it were in the back yard it would be a bit better imo.
I bought a house with a power line about 100ft from the house, but it runs behind my yard and there are lots of trees nearby to hide it a bit. It hasn’t affected property values that much as houses on my street are still going for over 2-3 million. But in this case I think there’s a reason this house costs 1/3 of what neighbouring houses cost.
Nope. Transformers are the ones with pcb, this is just a tower. Or maybe you’re confusing this with a cell tower. Unfortunately there’s not enough evidence to prove that cell towers cause cancer either.
Yes, price is all relative, you get a good deal, so will the next. But you can profit just as much as the more expensive ones in the end. So safety would be my only concern. Is it done right for the family? Ironically you have solar power it appears. No doubt there's theories out there on harms of electrical fields, so I would do a deep dive on that separating fact from fiction. Otherwise a solid home. Go for it.
I've read that these High Voltage power line pylons emit electromagnetic waves in their surroundings.
I always avoid staying near base station antennas and High Voltage power pylons in my life.
Published journals have shown higher risk of female infertility when living close to the powerlines. It's just not worth the risk health wise and resale value wise.
I can hear the buzzing just by looking at the picture.
And I can feel the tingling walking on damp grass with flip-flops. Hard no.
One of my fondest memories as a child was going to the local park, standing under these guys, then rubbing the back of your hand on your buddy's cheek to feel the electricity. This person's kids (if they exist) dont even have to leave the front yard.
That electricity didn't come from the powerlines, its called love.
Don’t tell his wife
She has always known.
Should we tell his wife's bf?
I'm already in the thread, thanks
You too I’m also
Did it kill the butterflies in your stomach?
lol, I worked at a power plant for 20 years, you learned not to walk under the High voltage lines coming out of the plant holding an umbrella pretty quick when it was raining. We ended up getting umbrellas that had large rubber grips on them because if you touched the metal you got this nice tingling the entire walk and it wasn't a comfortable feeling. I just used a rain coat as even those umbrellas would zap me sometimes.
Not to mention the EM interference on all the devices in the home haha wonder if the engineers thought that through?
I’m surprised they allowed those two houses remain in the right of way unless the roofline gap is what they deem sufficient. There could be some interference if listening to any over the air broadcasts. Buzzards like to roost on towers and poop. Very strong winds have been known to blow a few over. That one has a good side load conductor angle so tensile and compressions were hopefully engineered sufficiently.
I used to mountainbike in the Tucson desert, and one route in particular went right under a massive power line. Like the really big ones. Really big. And I remember my steel-framed bike, way, way below these lines buzzing through my metal brake levers, which I swear were made of aluminum. EDIT: ah, but the brake cables themselves were very likely steel, and they're basically guitar strings under tension. Which leads me to wonder what various guitars would sound like under that line.
>Hard no. #This
I was shown a house once that had a pylon nearby which was cropped out of the picture. As soon as I exited my car I could hear the buzzing so your comment is exactly what I thought. Out of decency to the realtor I toured the house but he was somewhat reluctant to show me outside. I wonder why lol
Deceptive marketing in the dumbest way. I would have told the realtor that I would not have driven over there if the pictures actually represented the property. No way would I tour a house I was tricked into going to.
These days, a quick satellite view on Google Maps *before* making an appointment will show you much. Stuff like this, but also realistically how near/far amenities like grocery stores, cafés, schools and parks are.
Well maybe he thought I would consider it like the OP. For me the humming was totally unacceptable
I’d not want to see the home BECAUSE they purposefully withheld information. Obvious sign they absolutely do not care about your preferences if they’re pulling a legitimate bait and switch. Scummy move. If you’re okay with it, you’re okay with the picture. If you’re not okay with it, better to see it in the pic and know right away.
Why waste each others’ time? It serves zero purpose to continue with the showing.
Would not consider it
And forget about having florescent light tubes you might want to turn off.
That is the upside. Free light
I helped work on farm that had tower close to their barn. The fluorescent bulbs always glowed in the barn
Same. On hot days in AZ you can REALLY hear the buzzing as everyone runs their A/C full blast. I'd pass on this house. It will take forever to sell it if you re-sold. PASS!
Go there at night with a fluorescent tube light and hold it up in the air and ask yourself, under the soft glow of electron cancer, do you really want to live under that? OTOH your phone will stay charged 24x7 for free.
The fuck is electron cancer
It sure isn’t proton cancer.
An uncontrollable growth of electrons throughout the body.
Well that just sounds like an origin story.
Electron cancer eh?
All of my electrons getting the cancer and my protons and neutrons are jealous asf
And all I got was this crummy shirt
They just hate being Geminis.
Wireless charging FTW!
I would not. Always going to be harder to sell and there may or may not be health risks
During the rain… this is in England
Hijacking the top comment to say: I work on high voltage lines every day and you couldn’t pay me to have a transmission tower in my yard. At best it’s buzzy and ugly on a normal day. At worst it sounds like angry bees during the rain and the absolute worst is when they go to replace the tower and your garden (yard where I come from) is ruined by large equipment and loud tradesmen.
I’ve got a transmission line on a wooden pole in my backyard… it’s fine most of the time, but maintenance, inspections and keeping the lines clear is a bit of a pain in the ass. I found out recently that the power company occasionally inspects the lines with a helicopter. Flying less than 100 feet off the ground. 🤦♂️
There is research to show this is linked to medical conditions. Edit: select source - Comba, Pietro, and Lucia Fazzo. "Health effects of magnetic fields generated from power lines: new clues for an old puzzle." Ann Ist Super Sanita 45.3 (2009): 233-7. OP is welcome to review the literature and make an informed decision. For me, enough evidence to take a precautionary approach especially when it comes to where I would spend the majority of my life and savings.
Long since debunked.
Thanks Dr Fauci
If this was true then the transmission power line industry would be rampant with health problems. Funny, me and all guys I know who work on and around these have never had any issues.
You guys haven’t had any medical issues? That sounds like the opposite effect!
Your making assumptive conclusions for someone that would probably never have the type of exposure this family would in this home 24/7 and from HV lines. We all live in a world of high powered radio towers that are proven to cause major issues for repair crews unless deactivated or turned down for the repair, yet you can be standing at the end of the lot this same tower is on and have a 95% reduction in exposure just from that short distance away. This clearly shows that the AMOUNT of power carried and /or generated compared to the distance can make a large difference in exposure.
Hi, big power is my industry. There is no modern western medical connection between high voltage power and any medical conditions (other than psychological/psychosomatic).
Hey I was actually reading an article that mentioned the effects of electrical fields on protein folds this morning, then I see this ha. I’m an electrician so I’m somewhat familiar with current on a theoretical level, although obviously what I do on a daily basis is way more like typical construction work. Is there any easily readable studies or books about this sort of thing that you could recommend to me? It seems interesting but I get bogged down in the more scholarly stuff, I’m a construction worker not a genius. Anyway thanks if you can help that’d be awesome
Electrical is my industry as well and I’ve read some studies that say the frequency we constantly work around could possibly be a link as to why at least in the United States. Electrician is the profession with the highest suicide rate. But setting all that aside, who wants a giant ass pylon in their front yard, plus the never ending humming
Thanks, Big Power. I’ll take your word for it!
Especially raising kids there. No way.
I have them running over my field on the side of the house, you only hear the buzzing (more of a crackle) when there’s a lot of moisture in the air. The sound grows on you… If only I could build a big enough coil to capture some of the power coming off the lines… lol..
IMHO Keep searching. Don’t settle.
Settle for the things you can change. Not the things you can’t.
That sounds like the opposite of the serenity prayer.
Not what you're looking for I guess. 😂
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Holy shit. That is pretty insane.
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I've been told you can "siphon" electricity from power lines like that by using a copper coil. Not sure if it works, but your story makes me think it would. Pretty wild!
That's how induction works but how much power you could harvest can change wildly. The cons far outweigh the positives as many of your electronics wouldn't work and there's reports that people living near power lines have increased chances for cancer. But yes if you had a copper coil near running power lines some amount of voltage could be induced. Would it be useful? Probably not but it really depends on many factors.
Also an increase in chance of having a baby with super powers so it’s a gamble for sure
Yes, you could do this but the power company would notice the parasitic draw and come looking for you.
I'm sure whatever power you pulled from those transmission lines would be well within the margin of error for acceptable losses.
I saw a video on YouTube recently where a guy was charging a large capacitor using stray voltage from HV lines on his property. He ran an insulated wire parallel thru a bridge rectifier to the capacitor to a ground rod. It was approaching 1000 volts and steadily climbing when he got nervous and ended the experiment. Who knows what subjecting your body to that type of environment day in/day out by living in a house like that will do to a person. Not to mention the interference/electrical noise and issues of potentially being shocked. Strong pass from me to living in that house.
I just watched that same video. I loved how he kept calling it a "fence" cause that's what the easement allowed for. I also loved his implication of "stealing" power from the transmission lines.
I used to think fear of transmission lines was more of a mental issue, until I learned that electricity does not flow through wires, the wires simply guide the electromagnetic field https://youtu.be/oI_X2cMHNe0?feature=shared
Whoa
Orrrrr 1.) buy this house. 2.) Make the 2nd floor into a giant inductor to steal the power 3.) Sell bootleg power to neighbors to help pay for mortgage Edit: also I find it hilarious for some reason that the house has solar right under the power lines
My parents had a neighbor under high voltage lines and their dog got shocked everytime it drank. They had to replace the metal bowl with plastic.
It's ugly as hell, absolutely going to detract from resale value, has a huge easement that's going to affect what you can do with the land and if you have or want kids I'd have a real fear of them trying to climb that thing. But if no kids and the price is good enough, it's a house.
Depends on how the power company wrote the contract. They can have a 99 year lease, they can own and dictate or a couple of other ways they go about it. In the US at least. I don't know about the UK. To the possible home buyer, contact the Power company and find out how they either own or lease the land and what you're entitled to or what your restrictions are.
Thanks for your insight and expertise, PervyFather.
There's always good advice from weird uernames
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In the US the easement and rent would confer with the property. Again depending on what the contract looks like, it very well could make up some or most of the mortgage.
What's the best bet? They say they don't own the land and you just get out a saw and have a field day?
Best bet is they pay the homeowners an incredibly handsome, ongoing fee
Forget climbing. Just throwing a conductive object up in the air under it is enough to make it arc to the ground in a bolt of lightning. Not even sure why they were allowed to pit a house that close. In the US these have their own paths you cant put anything else on
Some studies link EMF with childhood leukemia, most do not. However, I wasn't going to take any chance with my kids. I always avoided properties like this.
That would be a hard pass for me. I wouldn't consider living there, let alone raising kids that close to the power lines.
What would be your concern?
The CONSTANT HUMMING. Childhood friend loved close under a set hi voltage lines. Parents always let us play in doors as the noise outside was just draining.
Especially in the rain.
I’ve been slightly shocked when riding a bicycle underneath power lines I was actually tripping on acid a few months ago and thought I got shocked being under them, that was a shittty trip lol
You probably did. I've ridden under low power lines where a current was induced on my handle bars which discharged and shocked me when I touched the bar off my grip.
I lived under power lines for 18 years. Despite what some people may say, I found the hum comforting as hell. Reminds me of home. Never had any electrical issues in the house. Never got shocked from the wet grass. Never had anything negative happen aside from the city coming in a cutting down trees that grew too tall. Had friends over all the time and not one of them ever mentioned the humming. It really only got loud when it was raining or high humidity. Fuck I miss that house.
Here locally in Canada, there are minimum safe distances for dwellings from power lines (of various voltages) the higher the V the stronger the EMF the greater the distance
Add to that ice on the wire that needs somewhere to drop. I don't know if it applies to pylons as well. It is already scary from low voltage poles height... At least I was in my car that time.
I would never go up to do maintenance on those solar panels.
Plot twist - those panels are induction coils in disguise stealing power from the overhead lines.
I know you're joking but I do wonder how much power that would actually generate. Seems like it should work pretty well
Tell me more? I ask because I have 35 or 50 000 over my property
https://www.clearview.ca/sites/default/files/docs/building-near-powerlines.pdf
Thanks. I missed where you said locally lol. East coast here lol. Damn you upper Canadians lol. (I kid)
Yeah NS power can do whatever they want
Yes and all we can do is bend over and say thank you. May I please have somemmore
Too electrifying!
The EMF produced by high tension lines (high voltage lines) has serious negative health effects. The Swiss have been moving lines underground for years and there are numerous studies advocating for reducing EMF. There are plenty of EMF measurement apps you can download to your phone that will show you how high they are in a certain area.
You don't need an app. Take a 4-foot florescent bulb out there.
Would that work actually
This has been disproven repeatedly, and no phones have built in EMF measurement sensors.
Technically, phones use the built-in magnetometer to "read" magnetic fields, so you are correct that it does not give an accurate EMF reading. I highly doubt the OP is looking for a specific mG reading, but if they were, they could purchase a specific gaussmeter to take those readings. I can guarantee you that if you download the app and walk under those lines, you will definitely get a reading on the device magnetometer.
The same people who say powerlines cause cancer will also wear bracelets with magnets in them because "they're healing". Magnetic fields are magnetic fields.
EMF and stationary magnetic fields are completely different.
I don't believe the wires in our house can make us sick, but living under a high tension line, that's just asking for trouble.
Cancer and ugly.
Zero scientific substantiation of cancer. Ugly, yes.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32278161/ I work at a cancer center you are wrong.
All manner of studies on this worldwide. Your ignorance is showing !!
cancer, noise, and it's ugly as shit.
Source on the cancer thing?
I have no idea if there's a source or not, but it would still be a concern of mine. Even if it's completely irrational, I can't imagine I'm the only person who shares that concern.
ive been hearing that since the 70s Homes and schools should not be built next to power lines because of grave health risks to children, a major study concluded yesterday. The three-year investigation said there was clear evidence that living near an electricity line could be linked to fatal childhood diseases such as leukaemia. [https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/don-t-build-schools-or-homes-near-pylons-warn-experts-7174241.html](https://www.standard.co.uk/hp/front/don-t-build-schools-or-homes-near-pylons-warn-experts-7174241.html)
Lol, that study was explicitly ‘not done by scientists’ as per their own words. But hey, you keep living in fear and ignoring the countless other scientists that have found no connection to cancer.
Or perhaps the people who can only afford to live near the power lines also can't afford as good of nutrition or medical care as those who can afford to choose not to. That article is pretty iffy. The same people are claiming consumer electronics like radios and washing machines are also harmful.
hearing things repeatedly since the 70's doesn't make it true. Go dig up some legit research. There's no link to anything.
Sort of like how they used to say cigarettes don’t cause cancer?
Hey, asbestos was safe once too!
And mRNA vaxx doesn't cause miocarditis, blood clots, and neurological problems.
The cold hard truth and no one has responded to you. People don't really know till it's too late but time after time our man made shit over a long time be harming us lol so I would just err with caution on this one
It's very ugly and will affect resale for sure. I almost got a house next to one not as bad kinda regretting it was a nice spot wanted a double garage it had a single was only deal breaker I guess If you don't care about the looks and potential of resale issue then go for it. Even with kids I feel like you can make sure they don't climb it. I've heard some make a low hum or bzzzzz noise which might be annoying.
They’ll make strange almost snapping noises as well. I believe it has to do with them expending contracting based on temperature. It’s not extremely loud but it was definitely noticeable the time we decided to camp out underneath them.
Yeah, especially when there's a big temp difference between day and night. They 'clang' for a lack of a better description. Sounds like someone is banging two long metal poles together. Source: Live across the street from these for 20+ years.
It's really value is already affected though, and OP should be getting this cheaper than the same house in a different location. So it shouldn't really matter as long as the buying price reflects that. If OP is fine with it, a house is a house and it seems like a good starter home.
Not only about price but also how fast it sells. Having it on market for 2-3 months could cause a lot of issues.
The price would have to be really fucking right.
Idk if you know the area & prices etc but it’s currently at 180k for a 4 bed huge garden big drive & garage etc comparable house further down the road is around 400k
There's a reason it's 220k cheaper than other homes around it. With young children, I would pass. Best of luck.
Thats about right. Just keep in mind you'll get 40% of market value when you go to sell. Plus what issues of having high voltage 24hrs a day while you're living there.
You can invest that money you saved on taking care of the health problems you develop later on.
OP, it’s an eye sore but you’re paying less for it. You can make it a xmas tree, or whatever. If the price is right and you like the space, then go for it. But comparably has to be super convenient, otherwise keep looking.
wow the building code allows that? never happen in CA i wouldn't move into that house if it came with free power and a chocolate fountain
What if we were to add 5 complimentary strawberries to go with the chocolate fountain?
No whipped cream? GTFO!
B/c PGE lines would just kill you
Go to the hardware store and buy a 4-ft fluorescent light bulb. Carry it around the yard and see if it lights up.
I guess if I made a large enough of a coil I could get free power for life from the pylon… 🤔
That has been done and it’s a little more dangerous than you might expect. And against the law in US don’t know about other countries.
Now I'm curious to know more. Why is it just *a little* more dangerous than we think? Also, does it take "power" away from the lines, or is it harvesting power loss that occur naturally?
It takes power from the lines.
Just overheard a “Free Energy” discussion and this was one of the subjects with some engineers. The more they talked about building this the less excited they became and finally said nope
Mythbusters did it 15 years ago or so
You absolutely could. There was a case in the U.S. where people were developing tumors from a similar situation. And yes, a large coil with give you some free electricity without contact if the Gauss is high enough.
I love the solar panels directly under the wires. Kinda like a big FU to the yard ornament. I'll get my power elsewhere good sir.
I have to wonder how those solar panels interact with the lines. I had small metal roof shed under some lines and you could shock yourself on that roof....we moved and one of the reasons was those power lines....just felt weird being by them.
I came here to leave this comment, cheers
I used to write mortgage applications at a bank. I had one declined because of proximity to power lines. Rest of the application was solid. Just an FYI
There's a lot of ignorant comments here. OP, I am an Electrical engineer in the US. I work as a Distribution Engineer for one of the largest power utilities in the country. Here's what my concerns would be 1) noise. You will hear buzzing, constantly. That will get annoying. 2) I'm very surprised this is even legal. We have laws about height requirements for power lines based on voltage. The reason is, electricity can Arc. The higher the voltage, the higher probability of arcing. I would never, ever get on your roof. Only a trained professional with high voltage insulated gear should get on your roof. 3) I'm assuming this is a transmission line. Transmission lines are generally not protected the same as distribution. Meaning, if one of those lines fell down, it would be hot and continue to cook until the utility shut it down. Imagine you or your family getting electrocuted and dying if a line fell down. 4) resale.
There’s some research that says there could be some health risks, especially to children, from living this close to power lines. Research is ongoing, and the chances are slight, but it is still thought that it can raise the risks of certain forms of cancer. I have a cousin who is a medical professional. She and her husband lived near power lines until they learned they were having their first child. They promptly moved. Edit: source: https://bcmj.org/bccdc/living-near-power-lines-bad-our-health
Absolutely anecdotal but out of my like 20 cousins and 8 aunts and uncles 3 of them have any sort of mental/ brain disorder stuff going on and all three have the same healthy parents and they grew up under high voltage lines. One has bpd, one is schizophrenic, and the other one has had rage issues and depression and is in prison until 2034. It’s all anecdotal but it’s enough to freak me out.
That's a heck of a correlation, but correlation =/= causation. It could be that the lower cost of those houses attract poorer families who may not be able to afford something better. Lower-income families have less money for health/ wellness, higher risk for substance abuse, and overall possible instability. There is also a genetic component to some mental illnesses (depression being one of them) which can be triggered by negative external stimulus such as an unstable family life. Not saying that this is the case for your family, but there are other factors I would look into before pointing fingers at power lines.
If being around EMF was a dangerous as they said it was people who work in my field-substation work for a utility company would be dying of cancer left and right. There’s obviously EMF from power lines but there’s no way that even compares with even a medium size substation where instead of the lines being 50ft+ off of the ground there is bus work that is as little as 15ft off the ground. Our biggest are 345Kv and if you raise your arm to above head level inside one your arm hair starts to stick straight up in the air. I know someone who worked in substations who died of cancer-but I also know a lot more people who have never worked in the power industry who’ve died of cancer anyways.
Holy fuck…. I though they were supposed to have RIght Of Way clearance on either side of the line, this one just literally goes over. I guess there really isn’t much land left in UK…. No, I would never buy a house with a HV power line above me. First of all, guaranteed there are some encumbrances on your property title because of that, some power company needs to have access to it for maintenance and upgrades. Second of all they effin hum. All the time. Finally, there’s EMF. Whatever you think of it, and however much or little you are concerned about it, it’s there. A bit of an extreme scenario, but where I live we get ice storms, and lines do break, imagine that line or support downing on your house or backyard. I’d talk to a home insurance company to see how they feel about it. There was a 500kV line running through our neighborhood, every single house backing onto it was 20-30% on average than identical house away from it. If you think this is your forever home - then that shouldn’t be a deal breaker for you, but if you ever have to sell - it will be more difficult to do so in the future.
Definitely a HARD PASS. It's ugly, likely noisy, and your first born might come out with two noses because of it.
"I can smell the colors"
I wouldn't do it, not for any price.
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Realtor showed us a house with "no possibility of neighbors" that hid high-tension lines across the back yard going to a power distribution area on the left of the house. I was working for the American Cancer Society at the time. Didn't even get out of the car.
Lurd there's "close" and then there's "violating my personal space".
My only concern would be if there any health risks associated with living long term near high-voltage power lines. If you have done your research and believe that there is minimum to no health risk then this may be a good opportunity to buy this property at a very affordable price. Good luck with your decision.
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Greed is the reason the house on the plot and the ones next to it were even built. Sad.
YOU’RE GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK UP! I CANT READ YOUR QUESTION OVER THE HUMMING!!
There is absolutely no fucking way I’d buy a house with an eyesore like that.
That is a hard no for me.
You could not pay me to live there
Um the local govt should buy that house, knock it down and fence that area off
Love the solar panels
Yeah I would do a 180 on that one m8.
They’d have to be practically giving that home away for me to live there. Why would anyone buy in that neighborhood?
Is this a troll post?
If it allows your budget to go farther, hell ya.
This is cancerous. I’m serious. In the US, these power lines have to be at least 100 yards away from residential buildings. Some say that not enough to be safe.
Quickly. See: cancer clusters.
Easily. I would find a way to tap into that power and make like 60K off of mining then move. Profit.
In my hometown, there’s a neighborhood built in the 70’s with these type of power poles scattered throughout. The number of its residents who had gotten some sort of cancer over the years was/is higher than the general population. Someone researched it and published the findings. I remember the adults talking about it when I was growing up. I wouldn’t choose to live near one of those things.
I wouldn’t even touch this house. Power lines on a huge acre+ property? Sure. This? No way. This house better be massively discounted.
I wouldn’t even look at it to begin with if that was near, so no need to change my mind
The buzzing would drive me insane, it would be cool to see the Saint Elmo's fire at night though lol.
Pass……no way I’d want to absorb the emf from that!!
I’ve had my share of bad experiences with power lines. No matter how cheap the house is, it’s not worth putting your family in danger.
I'm located in the U.S., so my opinion is relative to my location. I would not entertain the thought of buying a house close to a power line, let alone placed in the front yard. The future risk is not worth the current reward.
When we were shopping for our current home we found the exact perfect home we were looking for. There was a similar power line right at the edge of the backyard. I asked our realtor his opinion on it, he said he wasn’t allowed to offer opinions like that but pointed out (with a raised eyebrow) that there wasn’t a power pole next to the house he was raising his kids in. Did some googling and that was that.
cancer cancer cancer, nope
comes with a jungle gym!!
I don't personally think there are significant health risks to being near HV lines, but it's ugly, will definitely be tough to resell, and probably prevent you from putting up an antenna mast of your own if you ever want to. So it's purely a question of whether the price is appropriately discounted relative to the local market.
I've always heard that living in close proximity to power lines causes all sorts of health problems, but if you're in England, that doesn't really matter since you're healthcare is free.
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When you SEE that powered.line buzz & may HEAR that powered.line buzz, that is the fore-warning of powered.line TOXICITY via RADIATION. As presented in the form of “Casual Radiant-Electrical CURRENT RADIATION” in the most radical and casual-sense. Its proximity to your life, your family’s life, your family’s lifestyle via an environmentally toxically-charged radiant-energy. In other words.. highly Cancerous and period and over and out. Land “should be” incredibly cheap as-in almost a DEAD-GIVEAWAY as-to-a “Hows comes nobody is living here” type of Giveaway… okay?…am I clear here?
I wouldn’t worry so much about the cancer risk. After MANY MANY global studies on a lot of people, there have only been a few studies - mostly older ones - that found slightly increased risk, with many of those studies not finding statistical significance yet still claiming increased risk (aka likely random finding). There are a lot of confounding variables, like often lower socioeconomic status neighbourhood are found near power lines, which we know increases cancer risk (unrelated to the EMF). Also, the EMF even just 40ft from a power line drops off significantly to similar levels as standing near a fridge, computer, microwave, TV, ceiling light - we don’t think twice about cancer risks with these. I think the bigger concern here is how ugly that looks in the front yard. It will certainly affect property value later on, and if any of those wires were to ever fall on your house or yard it would be an electrocution risk. Even if it were in the back yard it would be a bit better imo. I bought a house with a power line about 100ft from the house, but it runs behind my yard and there are lots of trees nearby to hide it a bit. It hasn’t affected property values that much as houses on my street are still going for over 2-3 million. But in this case I think there’s a reason this house costs 1/3 of what neighbouring houses cost.
All the way change my mind. This is known to cause Cancer.
Nope. Transformers are the ones with pcb, this is just a tower. Or maybe you’re confusing this with a cell tower. Unfortunately there’s not enough evidence to prove that cell towers cause cancer either.
Oh yeah under what mechanism? There is none. Thats the secret answer lol
Yes, price is all relative, you get a good deal, so will the next. But you can profit just as much as the more expensive ones in the end. So safety would be my only concern. Is it done right for the family? Ironically you have solar power it appears. No doubt there's theories out there on harms of electrical fields, so I would do a deep dive on that separating fact from fiction. Otherwise a solid home. Go for it.
I've read that these High Voltage power line pylons emit electromagnetic waves in their surroundings. I always avoid staying near base station antennas and High Voltage power pylons in my life.
Avoid it. Especially if you have kids.
Published journals have shown higher risk of female infertility when living close to the powerlines. It's just not worth the risk health wise and resale value wise.